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Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James T. Harris, sitting here for Jessic Kelly. I am a talk show host out of Phoenix, Arizona five fifty KYI seven ninety KST. Also, you could catch my show on the Free iHeartRadio app the Conservative Circus. Man, oh Man, what do we can? I don't know about you, but I was riveted to my social media account X That's where I saw all
of the shenanigans go down. Usually I kind of take Saturdays off, you know, kind of chill, don't look at anything, but that was impossible because of the events that went down Friday afternoon. You had to keep track of all of the madness. Of course, I am sure that the listeners to the Jesse Kelly Show are familiar with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the Trump Zalisky slap down, and that's what it was, and it was long overdue.
But what was incredible is that I don't believe we have ever seen anything quite like this play out in real time. Usually the haggling, the back and forth, you know, the cause, and you're disrespectful, all that kind of stuff. Happens behind the scenes, and what we've learned over the weekend is that this has happened behind the scenes before. Actually, Zelenski and President Biden got into a similar situation where he was like Biden was like, you were being disrespectful,
young man. Little man, little man, you're being disrespectful. This time. Though when it came out in public, it was on TV, you got all of the pundits on the left saying that Trump was bullying. You're saying that there was a setup that that Trump and and President and Vice President Vance were just two times and they bullied them. They teamed up, and it looks that way except when you get into the background. We're going to do that just
a little bit today. I'm gonna try to give you some angles that just haven't been talked about, you know, on the airways, because I've been on this conflict between Russia and the Ukraine from the very beginning. I was against it. I even have a disclaimer because early on people were saying, you're just a puppet of Putin. No I'm not. I'm not a puppet of Putin. I'm a student of history, and you know, having traveled in that
region of the world. I'm telling you that the history is so deep and the layers are so thick that we get involved thinking that, Yo, this guy is good and this guy is bad, and that's just not the case. There are all kinds of level of bad here. But at the end of the day, what's different is you have an administration that doesn't want to be wasting our money on their blood. We don't want to waste any more of our treasure in a proxy war in Ukraine.
And the truth of the matter is anybody who was really looking at this for the last twenty five years is quite obvious just to get to the tyson punch here. Vladimir Putin in Russia says, under no circumstances will Ukraine be a part of NATO. That's not gonna happen. That would be like the United States of America allowing China to put missile bases in Mexico or Canada. We're not gonna do that. You know what. We almost went to war when the Soviet Union tried to put missiles in Florida.
Remember that, Well, many of you probably don't because you were young. As a matter of fact, I don't even think I was here yet, And I think that was about a year or two before my parents were blessed with my presence. But I remember remember them talking about it.
Mom was like they were terrified. The people were running to the store buying up all the cans goods were about to go and to have, you know, a nuclear war, as if you know, hiding in the basement and eating can good would help, if you if nukes started going off all over the place. But they didn't know. That's back in the day where they were still hiding under desks.
Remember that for those of you were a little bit older than I am, how they used to have the drills in cases, you know, a bomb went off, you would hide under your desk in the school stop drop rope. Well, yeah, we were naive, We had no idea, but now we do as a matter of fact, the horrors of war. Good night. You have Ukraine and you have Russia. They're saying there could be up to the millions of people lost in this conflict. So you would think that they
would have want this over. Here's what's surprising. It sounds like Vladimir Putin wants it over. Why doesn't Zelensky? What is going on? I mean this deal. It's actually quite brilliant when you think about it. The whole mineral rights and all that kind of stuff. You know, Ukraine should be kind of paying for all the billions that we poured into that country. It could help go a long way to let us mind some of the minerals over there. But here's what's genius. Is not just about getting payback.
It's where the mining would take place. It would take place near the border of a Russia sort of like a demilitarized zone. We would have corporations there, we would have Americans on the ground there working, you know, trying to you know, bring up the precious metals from the earth process and all that kind of stuff. And that Putin decided he wanted to invade, he would have to you know, kill Americans and that would you want to talk about a red line? We don't think he would
be willing to do that. Genius. This is what Trump came up with. And yet when it was supposed to know the sign to make the whole deal possible, for what happens. We get Zalinski over here in this jumpsuit, his military jump suit, with his arms crossed in defiant, starting to pop off. And at first you had a President Trump like what's going on? He was what? But then JD. Van stepped and you can't know, you can't roll up in here being all disrespectful. And that's when
it was on. That's when it was game on. Oh yes, and I watched the whole forty five minute affair, but you know what the last five or six minutes when it got hot and crazy. It is when the you know, the barbs were flying, and then President Trump just had to come in here and to take over. You can't come in here with this. We are not playing that little man.
You big trouble.
No, No, you've done a lot of talking.
Your country is in big trouble.
I know you're not winning all You're not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out because of the President.
Staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone and we are sancle I said, thanks.
He gave you, this stupid president, three billion dollars. We gave you military equipment, you and you, but they had to use our military one of you. If you didn't have our military equipment, you didn't have our military equipment.
This war would have been over in two weeks in three days. I heard it from putting. Oh oh, I heard it from pot You try to throw pooling up in this. Uh uh, Well, we were at this alone. We've been fighting. You haven't been fighting alone. As a matter of fact, let's get serious. We can go all the way back to two thousand, what fourteen, that's when you had, yes, when you had the late Senator John McCain and Lindsey Graham over there, war you warring and
chanting for war. Take on Russia. We got your back. Go ahead and beat him. You can do this. That was Lindsey Graham and McCain. You haven't been alone. As a matter of fact, it was President Trump that gave you the missis. The previous administration didn't give a jack. You haven't been alone. So why you have you over here pontificating like this, Well, you know what this is. This is this is part of the narrative. This is the old narrative. This is the Zelensky that was supported
by the Democrats or actually the Eula Party. This is under the Biden administration. This is the Zelensky who is a war hero. This is the d Lynsky talking in which you know in the time in America where everybody was flying there Ukrainian flag. I didn't, but if you were flying there, you've Ukrainian flags or had a little Ukrainian flag and all the social media. This is the Zelensky that's still lining himself up with the people who lost. The Democrats lost the election. Son, you don't have you
can have their backing. The problem is they have no power. And this is what the Trump has reacted to it. How are you gonna come up in here talking to me, you know, like I'm Biden three days? This is how maybe less in two weeks. Of course.
Yeah, it's gonna be a very hard thing to do business like that.
You just say thank you. I said it, except American Day, except that.
There are disagreements, and let's go litigate those.
Disagreements rather than trying to fight it out of the American media. When you're wrong.
We know that you're wrong.
But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on.
I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long. Yeah, I think it's very good. I thank you, mister president. Thank you, mister President for letting the American people see what is happening here, and the behind the scenes, I mean things began to unravel very very quickly. Well, why because because this was a game, this was a setup. You know what you're about to hear from a and Rice of the Obama administration secretary said.
Yet she came right to the microphones after this debacle because they knew that they lost control of this, They lost control of the narrative, and they have to get the narrative back. Oh yeah, this was the most spectacular blowing up but diplomacy a piece that we have ever seen. But the reason why it blew up is because the Democrats' fingers were all over it. Let's talk about that. James T. Harris sitting in for the Jesse Kelly Show. You're listening to the Oracle. You are listening to the
Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James T. Harris I And they talked to your hosts out of a Phoenix, Arizona. My show, that Conservative Circus could be heard on five point fifty KFYI and Phoenix seven ninety K s T and Tucson. Also, you can follow me on the free iHeartRadio app. You know I don't talk about my Instagram page very much, James t underscore Harrison. But over the weekend, I happened to be out in California visiting with the family. My number one son and his lovely wife had announced
that they're having a baby. We went out there to celebrate. I'm gonna be a grandfather kid. You hear that, Chris, That is Jesse Kelly's producer, Chris. I'm about to be a grandfather again. The babies are rolling in. I love it, gonna have me a little baby boy. Well, while I was out in the streets celebrating, and guess what, a big old protest rolled up on me. A bunch of folks carrying the Ukraine flag. Yeah, and they were yelling that Putin is a killer, Putin can't be trusted, the
Russias are lying, millions are dying. Now I'm standing in the midst of it. And then the protesters, you know, they came rolling up right past me in like a river, and I pulled out my phone. I just started the recording the whole thing. And then I'm like, should I should somebody should tell them? Should I tell them? Should I tell him? About forty of them there's only one of me, you know, risk reward. I decided just to shut up and record it. You can see it on
my Instagram page, on my Facebook page. I'll be there. But seriously, you're all protesting why because Zelinsky just made a fool out of himself. You want us to know that that the you know, Vladimir Putin is a bad person. Here's what you need to understand right now, right now, Americans, we don't care. No, seriously, You've got billions of dollars, billions of dollars that's been in the cookie jar. Zelinsky, you even said you don't know where half of it is.
You want us to send more of our treasure? Wait a minute, why are you protesting here? Look, buddy, they are pulling people off of the street. They got videos of old men walking dogs, and a gang of soldiers comes that throws them in a man and they're off to the war. Why don't you go home and fight for your country or put your Ukrainian flags down and be an American? But you can't have it both ways, and the American people are now very much awake to that.
I don't know, I don't think Zelensky and I don't think the Democrats are reading the room. The American people, they're not waving the flags anymore. The American people, because of DOGE, are finding out about the billions, possibly trillions of dollars that have been lost to fraud in corruption, and a lot of that money has found its way over into Ukraine. And we know that there's kickbacks. What's going on. Oh yeah, all that money that's going into Ukraine.
You know you've got You've got Hunter Biden going all the way back to Barisma. That money is ended up right back here in the in the pockets of the Democrat Democrat Party, And slowly but surely people are finding out about that. And so you have popular opinion in this country concerning the war. It's it's starting to change, it's starting to cool off. And I'm trying to tell you it's not gonna switch around. We're not all of a sudden gonna say, you know what, we need to
spend more treasure. You know what, I want my son and my daughter to go fight on behalf of Ukraine. No, no, no, no. There was one important point in time when you had Zealski saying, oh you have a big pond, but pretty soon, it's gonna come on here on you. No, it's not that's what President Trump said. No, it's not what you're talking about. Don't don't come up here talking that smack. It's that coming over here, and it I mean, you could guarantee that it doesn't come over here if you
have just signed the piece of paper. But no, even CNN has to come up with the report saying, hey, what happened to the support for Ukraine. It's evaporating.
Please Toledo, look at this trend line here. US support for Ukraine is too much. Back when the war began, back in February of twenty twenty two, it was just seven percent. Up like a rocket ship, my goodness. Up now in February of twenty twenty five to forty one percent, and the clear majority of Republicans, and of course Republicans are in charge of the US government. Now sixty two percent of Republicans say that the US support for Ukraine is too much.
What a difference from just three years ago. I can remember, John, all.
Those backyards in the United States with there's Ukrainian flags. Far few of them today. As Americans' opinions on Ukraine have changed.
Dramatically about opinions of the Ukrainian president.
Obviously, if you would expect changes amongst the public, feelings towards Ukraine, feelings towards Zelensky have changed also dramatically. Look at this confidence Zelenski will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. Back in twenty twenty two, it was the clear majority, seventy two percent.
Through the floor, through the floor.
By twenty twenty four, just forty eight percent of Americans say that they're confident that Zelensky will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs, and GOP confidence has also plummeted dramatically. Now the clear majority of Republicans are not confident, not confident that Zelensky will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. Really a real trend line ones you rarely see in the American
public when it comes to Ukraine and Zelensky. Confidence in both going down, through the grex going down.
So where are we so far? We got Zelensky that made a full out of himself last Friday and then was trying to play cleanup on Al five over the weekend. We've got the American people who have lost faith faith in the Zelensky and no one I want to no longer want to spend any money on the war whatsoever. Over the weekend we did have the UK step up with a one hundred year commitment. But really, what is going on? I got some more information for you about
how this thing is falling apart. James T. Harris sitting in for the Jesse Kelly Show. You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James Harris. I am a talk to your host out of a Phoenix, Arizona. I am your ring master. I showed a Conservative circus heard from six to ten am on five fifty KYI in Phoenix, seven ninety K and St. N Tucson. Of course you can catch it on the iHeartRadio app. And I have to tell you I'm watching this and I've
just just tickled pink tickled pink. Why Because all the things I've been talking about, I can actually tell you I've been on the right side of this thing from the very beginning. You know, war, We've learned over the years, war rarely is necessary, and there's always ego behind it, money behind it, power behind it. You had all of that mixed up in this mess, and then you have President Trump come along, so you know what, We're not gonna do this. He campaigned on this, so why would
the media think we would feel any different. He the President Trump won and he's keeping his campaign promises, trying to stop this whole thing. Came up with an innovative deal, an innovative deal that should have been a null brainer. And the real problem here is that we have Zelenski, who again he's not reading the room. He's listening to Democrats that you know that he met with Democrats before
he went to the White House. Yeah, all of the usual players of Susan Rice, now Congressman Ben mind On, these Democrats and some Uni party members that are telling him, you know what, don't take the deal. Don't take the deal. He's team up with losers. They're losers. Jeffrey Sachs of a man who has been on top of this for it for decades, paying attention to what was happening between
the NATO, the EU, Russia geopolitics. Here's a guy you should have seen on TV throughout the whole thing, but they didn't want him on because he's speaking too much of the truth. He doesn't take size. He's just telling you the geopolitics of the whole situation, and it's over.
Because Trump doesn't want to carry a loser. That's it. It's not some great morality. He doesn't want to carry a loser.
This is a loser.
The one that will be saved by the negotiations taking place right now is Ukraine. Second is Europe, the stock markets rising in recent days by the horrible news of negotiation. The main issue for Russia was the United States, because Russia, as a major power and the largest.
Nuclear power in the world.
Was profoundly concerned about US unipolarity from the beginning. Now that this is seemingly possibly ending, Europe has to open negotiations directly with Russia as well, because the United States will quickly lose interest and you're going to be living with Russia for the next thousands of years.
This is common sense. Now, of course, this is Jeffrey Sachs speaking before Zelinsky blew up. He blew the whole thing up. But it is common sense bringing people to the peace table. It was so simple, It was right there, It was right there. Azilinsky had to do was smile, where as suit shake some hands and eat lunch.
I don't know if he needs an apology. He needs Zelensky to recognize the position that he's in. We're we're their patron, We're their best hope for the killing to stop and for them to emerge from this sovereign and prosperous. And we're also their best hope as a business partner. I mean, all Zelensky had to do today was put on a tie, show up, smile, say thank you, sign the papers, and have lunch.
That's it.
And he couldn't do that.
And this followed ten days of being difficult in private and now one day of being stupid and public. This did not have to go down this way. And however you feel about why it started, why it's going on, who's right and who's wrong. We can help them in this and come out okay on the other side, and he's making it hard now.
First, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I actually agree with Scott and everything that he said was basically right. I know I'm gonna get killed on social media for admitting that, but.
So be it.
And the fact is that it doesn't matter whether JD Vice President Vance planned it or just took the opportunity to bait Zelensky's. Lensky took the bait, okay, and he shouldn't have. He made a mistake.
He made a mistake. Even folks on the hard left or who are serious about pieces like man, this is a mistake. What are you talking about. You're talking about getting America involved as a business partner. You're talking about America, you know, occupying the deal, the militization zone over there. You're you're talking about having the finance to help rebuild your country. And you just have a hissy fit and try to lecture to the Americans in the White House
wearing a jumpsuit from Vogue. Oh James, it is trivial for you to make fun of his suit. Why come on, come on, I've been to the White House a couple of times. You know what, I wore a suit. I don't wear suits anymore. I wore a suit. I look good too. I mean I didn't just go down to the you know, with j C. Pennies and shows nothing against j C. Pennies, but you know, I just had a little bit more refined than that. I have suits
made in case I need to. You know, these occasions where I need to go to a black tie event or or to the White House, I wear a suit. Yeah, that's what you do. But he didn't do that. See he wore his little I'm a I'm a general uniform. At least it was black, it wasn't khaki and stuff like that. But I've seen him wearing the pants with a T shirt. How you gonna zaliski and fetterment. Somebody needs to talk to these people. You show some respect. I know I get some pushback for some of my
conservative friends, Jim to just make it too much. No, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen. It's a sign of respect. This is a country that's given you billions. They stood by you. Even if Trump were in office, we wouldn't have done it to this extent. But this is this is the this is the country. This is You can't come in here like this and Scott Jennings is right. All you need to do is shake the hands and smile and sign the paper and boom, we're off to the races. We've got peace. You heard
Jeffrey Sachs say, you know what. The next thing that would have happened after that, you would have had Europe have to come to the table. Well, James, how come Zelensky and Europe weren't at the table in the first place. Well, you know what, they were trying to get them there. This has been going on for weeks that you catch the interview with Marco Ruby's secretary Rubio on CNN. Oh my god, but like sixteen minutes, he is so transparent.
They laid it completely out and you had the opportunity to see not only was Zelensky playing games for the last couple of weeks, but that the Democrats were in on it as well. This is just so, this is just so devious the Democrats. But they don't care. They're still going They're still going to do it. They're still going to push the Obama administration, members of that Field group, They're still going to push. They cannot let Trump had
this victory. But more importantly, they gotta keep you know, the scheme going, because if it falls apart, you're gonna see how many hands were in that cookie jar. You're going to see quite possibly the war crimes that were committed not just by rush Up but by Zelensky. You're gonna see how this isn't a democracy at all. I mean he canceled the elections. If anybody's a dictator, it's it's this guy. But most importantly, I mean, you're going
to see when it does fall apart. Just how deeply involved the United States have been in empire making, not just in Ukraine but around the world is quite shameful. It's really quite embarrassing, and it's going to force a reset. Do you know how I know what I'm talking about because of the person who came out against se Lensky over the weekend. Oh, this is absolutely amazing. Took my breath away. I will tell you why the war hawk of war hawks turned on the little general, the little
dictator over the weekend. Yes, I'm talking about Lindsey Graham, and we will do that coming up next. James T. Harris sitting in for the Jesse Kelly Show. You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James C. Harris. I am anna talk to your hole soun of Phoenix, Arizona five P fifty KFYI seven ninety K. That's Phoenix and Tucson. You can also hear me on the iHeartRadio app and apparently Jesse's Jesse Kelly's producer Chris did not
get the memo. Did not get the memo. The Beach Boys are never to be played in my in my hearing the Beach Boys. I don't know. I just grew up listening to them, and I at first I like their harmony, and all of a sudden, I'm like California. Just for the listeners to California. I'm sorry. I mean, you know, if it's but California weirds me out, it weirds me out. It's just not you're not I'm not talking about the politics. I'm talking about topography. I'm there,
and I just can't wrap my head around it. And there's so many people, and the beach part of it, will part that didn't burn down, and the rest of the city. It just doesn't It doesn't matter, it doesn't work. The groove is off. Am I am I silly? Do you like California? Chris? He said, the politics gets in a way. He says, the politics get in a way, and I for me, I could keep it separate for a moment, but then it just becomes I've done the beach part, I've done the month to part. I just
can't tie it. It's too much. It's too much. And then when I hear the beach boys to me, they just sum it all up. That's this is what I'm sorry. What were we talking about before I was thrown off by the beach boys. We were talking about what is happening this week with Ukraine. I am very hopeful. I'm very hopeful for two reasons. One, I do believe that Zelussia is going to slink back to the table, even though I'm seeing today that he is now saying what
is he saying? Zelenski is saying that there will be no peace. He says the end of the war with Russia is very very far away. I don't know who he's listening to. I don't know who he's listening. But he was apologizing. He said earlier today that he's going to sign, and now he's saying that an agreement to the end of the war is still very very far away, and no one has started all of these steps yet. The peace that we foresee in the future must be
just honest and most importantly sustainable. Yeah, he's just, you know, you's just popping off. He hasn't settled down yet. He's not serious about peace. But he was right out this weekend because one of the biggest war hawks, one of the biggest supporters of Zelensky, has been Lindsey Graham, and Lindsey Graham found himself thoroughly embarrassed by the actions of Zelinsky. It was crazy to me, Absolutely crazy is how quickly
Lindsey Graham turned on a dime. Just a day or two before he popped off, he was celebrating Zelensky, saying, you know what, we couldn't have a better partner. We haven't lost one American to the war over there. It's been all the Ukrainians that have been doing the fighting, fighting bravely. Then a few days later you've got to melt down. And then over the weekend you got Lindsey Graham doing a one point eighty throwing Zelensky under the bus.
Would I think complete utter disaster. I've been to Ukraine eight or nine times since the war started. I understand the consequences of Putin's actions against Ukraine. I appreciate what the Ukrainian people have done. They fought like tigers. At the end of the day, I was hoping that this minerals deal, which would be transformative in the relationship, would go overwhelm. I talked to Zelenski this morning. Don't debate. President Trump was in a very good mood last night.
Somebody asked me, am I embarrassed about Trump? I have never been more proud of the President. I was very proud of JD. Evans standing up for our country. We want to be helpful. What I saw in the Oval office was disrespectful, and I don't know if we can ever do business with Zolensky again. I think most Americans saw a guy that they would not want to go in business with. The way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted the President was just over the top.
So I think the relationship between Ukraine and America is important, vitally important. But can Zelensky do a deal with the United States after what I saw?
I don't know. Holy cow man, call it. Tell him he's just stepped down. You know, Zelenski was not aware of this, But right after this, Uh, you had the Senator say what he said. You had Zelensky go on sit down with Brett Behar, and Brett bear played for him the comments, Lindsey Graham's comments, and I had to tell you that, you know, you can't see it because you're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. But to look
on his face, Zelensky's face fell. He couldn't believe that his good friend Lindsey sewed him out like this, and then he just started mumbling and babbling nonsense.
So he says, you need to continue consider resigning.
Is that on the table. I don't know.
If he will be happy after my wards. This decision can do only people off Ukraine.
You're not going to step down to do a piece deal?
Was I was?
I was always ready.
I know not IM sure that is a good idea for for I mean this such proposals. But but anyway, I always said, if the United States will support NATO, so I think that it's enough for Ukraine. So I think we I did all all I had to do. And if somebody is not, I mean this happy with me?
Okay, okay?
But between us, yes, Americans vote for American president. Each European county vote for that president, and only ukrainiw. With all respect to Lindsey, if I can say, Lindsey, we know each other, yes, and ukrainis Oh you.
Tried a little, like I said to lindsay, you know, he said later I makes Lindsay a citizen in Ukraine, then he can, you know, speak against me? You don't even know. Lindsey shot back, Hey, you suspended your election, so does your opinion a ready count. It's ugly. It's ugly because truth is about to come on out. I just got two more things I want to talk about with the whole Ukraine issue, to let you know that it's much more than peace and democracy dying in darkness.
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