The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Friday, a magnificent Friday, and ask doctor Jesse Friday and all. My goodness, I don't even know where to begin between the questions and the world nuds and everything else. First of all, let me just give you a heads up. I'm giving you a heads up right now. Hear me. Well, about a half hour from now, Brandon Wiker, you know we've had him on several times before, one of these
national security experts. Brandon Wiker is going to be here and he's going to be discussing what he thinks is coming next week. Next week. According to Brandon, he believes there's a chance the next big war in the Middle East kicks off, and yes, we are involved. You need to be here about a half hour from now. Strap yourself in. It's gonna be a lot to take. Brandon Wikert's gonna join it. So that's coming. We're gonna talk
about so many different things right now. We have to discuss the ongoing criminal enterprise of the United States government. RFK juniors out there talking about things. Elon Musk is talking about things. Tim Wallas apparently ended his presidential campaign already he may just not know it yet. Hey, communist is talking about how property damage is no big deal. All that and ad for the Marines that I'm actually gonna play in the opening. We're gonna talk about your questions.
Of course, somebody wants to talk about the Trump endorsement, Lindsay Graham. Someone's mad at me about talking about abandoning the law. There's so much to get to all that and green salsa Salsa verda, Chris in case you didn't know, and so much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse Kelly's show. Before I do any of that, before we even get into the news of the day, I'm sorry, I have to play something. And I'll actually get to a question about this in a while probably,
but I'm not going to dig through it. Someone said something about how it just it feels more patriotic now. Everything feels more patriotic now now that the American hate and communists are no longer in charge of every single thing. Doesn't it in some ways feel like a weight has been lifted off of our shoulders. Even with all the problems, and I know there are problems that we'll talk about him,
It's fine, feels good again, doesn't it. I've got I have a breakfast tomorrow morning with a young man just I'm, you know, trying to help out and mentor it a little bit. And he lost his dad. He's a wonderful kid, and he he gets a hold of me the other day and he says, Hey, thinking about joining the Marines. I'll talk to you about it. So I'm gonna take
it to breakfast. We're gonna talk about it. And it occurs to me that for the longest time I've told you, under Joe Biden, when they turned our military into this you know, America hating bunch of gay crap, that I told you my sons are not joining that. My sons are not going to get dragged into some war under these demons who hate their guts. They're not going to do it. They're not joining that. I've told you that
for how long they're not That's what I've said. It occurs to me that tomorrow morning, I'm very likely going to tell this young man to do it. And you want to know why, because well, JD vance the credit to him. It's just so awesome. Evan. JD there did the voice work for the new ad for the United States Marines. This is the kind of organization my young men can join.
We care about excellence, and we care about patriotism. And if you are awesome and you are a patriotic marine, then we are going to do everything that we can to make you the most lethal fighting force the world has ever seen. And that is how we're doing every single day. No more quotas, no more ridiculous mumbo jumbo,
no more diversity training. We believe the real strength and the real diversity in the United States Marine Corps is that you all come from every walk of life, come from every quarner of America, and you have got the strength and the purpose to win the nation's ward. And that is what the Marine Corps is going to do, just like it's done for damn near two hundred and fifty years.
Good grief, I'm gonna sign up myself. That's exactly That's what I'm talking about. That's what young men want. That's what the seventeen year old stud who wants to service country no matter where he is Iowa, La, New York, Montana. The seventeen year old stud on the football team, the wrestler, the beast, that is what he wants to sign up and join. Gosh, that's so freaking sweet. Okay, I just had to get that out of the way. I'm sorry,
I have to do it. Let it eat, baby. Now, let's move on to the questions, shall we before we get to the government looting. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait on the government looting for just a little bit, just because I'm so worried about Brandon. Weiker's about to tell us at about a half hour. Jesse, this is about the Lindy and the guy calls it the Lady Graham endorsement. That's not nice, Jesse. Trump isn't stupid, at
least he doesn't seem to be. But I'm one hundred percent positive Trump knows almost every normal human being knows Lady Graham is worthless. That being said, Trump will need him for more than a few critical votes when we have those two hags from Alaska and Maine. My gut tells me the corrupts Supreme Court will roll against us on deportation, and it also tells me Trump will do what you suggest and defy the court. He will need Lady Graham to corral the rhinos so they don't abandon him.
What do you think? Okay, Well, first of all, Trump's not stupid. Okay, stupid people think Trump is stupid. Trump is very crafty, very savvy human being. Trump's not dumb. Trump is transactional, no question about that. But he's not dumb as far as your theory on. Hey, I need to keep right beside me to make sure that he can look out for me for when I have to defy the Supreme Court. This is actually, this is actually
exactly my problem with the entire thing. The times we've seen so far when we have critically needed Lindsey Graham to defy the system and fight with us, pretty much every single time, he has sided with the system instead of us, instead of us, This is my issue with it. I understand that they have something going. Maybe they're just personal friends. I don't know, so I get the Trump Graham LoveFest. Apparently, I'm just gonna understand that. I don't
understand it, whatever it may be. But this is my problem with it. This is my problem with it. Is Lindsey Graham. Kneecaps Trump knee caps are efforts Lindsey Graham. Again, I tell you when I think things, when I have a theory or when I know something, I know this. Lindsey Graham was on Capitol Hill as quietly as possible because he didn't want to make Trump angry. As quietly as possible, Lindsey Graham was trying to end Pete Hagsas's
nomination Donald Trump's personal choice for Secretary of Defense. Lindsey Graham was on Capitol Hill. It was a whisper campaign because he knew he couldn't say too loud without making Trump mad. But Lindsey Graham was privately work in the room trying to stop Trump's sect deaf and two minutes later Trump endorses him. That's that's what frustrates me, Jesse. Now this, I wanted to get to this.
Now.
Remember I wanted to recap what I said before I get to this guy's email, because his subject is your advocacy of lawlessness. Jesse, did you ever see a man for all Seasons?
No?
I didn't see that. Do you like the US Patriot Act?
No?
It's a disgusting Commie Act. Should I keep going? What would please the communists more than our following your advice to cast out laws? It would be the lighting of the fire that could not be contained contained the end of our freedom. Okay, I understand what you're saying. But let's let's let's do this. Okay, Let's set it up this way. Let's say, let's let's say Jewish producer Chris and I go into business together, which would be a terrible decision on my part. But let's say what Chris.
It just let's say Jewish producer Chris and I go into business together, Okay, and we have a contract. We have a contract, right, a contract, and the contract states the money that's in our business. We sell cheeseburgers, kacher Chris, who sell cheeseburgers, and the money that is in our business stays in the business. You don't pull any money out of it that's in the contract. Chris starts pulling
money out of the business. He's violating the contract. Now, no matter what I do next, no matter what I do, this is already a terrible, terrible situation, and nothing, nothing I do, will make the situation. Okay, Chris is illegally violating the contract and hurting the business. No matter what comes next, the situation is bad and won't ever not be bad. All Right. The Jesse Kelly Show, Chris I don't think we need to be beating the war drums like this, okay, or wait a minute, I guess that's
a protest song. In case you're wondering, Jewish producer Chris and I and I'm assuming Corey, but I can hardly see him today, which is really kind of a blessing. We're a little bit concerned about what Brandon Wikert's about to tell us all in about ten minutes from now, So again you're gonna want to strap in for that. Remember, you can email the show Jesse at jesse kellyshow dot com. So Sky wrote in and it was a look, it's a smart email. He's got an opinion. It's fine. He
wasn't rude or anything like that. The subject was my advocacy of lawlessness, and he's referencing that. I said, Trump needs to now now, he has to begin to find the judges. We don't have time for this. We can't if we can't depour barbarians. If judges have the authority to stop us, if even the law, if the constitution, if anything, has the ability to stop us from deporting barbarians, and the country's already finished, then the law shouldn't even
be there. The constitutions shouldn't be there. If we're not allowed to deport barbarians, then we're not even a country anymore. And so this stuff, honestly, it just doesn't work.
And we hope this court system that's become so active all of a sudden and trying to protect some.
Very very bad.
People of crime, they have to stop. They have to let us do the job. We were elected to do the job. They shouldn't be interfering in that. It's very sad thing that's gone. Nobody can even believe it. They'd rather have them stay in our country. These are murderers in many cases, and people about as bad as we've ever seen. And they have to let us do the job. They have to let Cash and Pam and everybody else do their job.
Have to let us do the job. But they're not gonna let you do the job. And so back to my little analogy I used. If Jewish producer Chris and I go into business Jesse's Cheeseburgers, then we have a contract, it's signed, it's official that neither of us are allowed to pull money out of the business. But then Chris just decides he's going to ignore the contract and starts
pulling money out of the business. Well, now we're in a situation that is bad, not of our making, not of my making, and I have to make a decision. What do I do. I have to start pulling money out of the business. I can't just let Chris pull all the money out of the business. Then I have no money left and the business goes under. If we're in a situation where the contract has been willingly broken by the other side, then I have no choice but
to engage. And I know it's a bad choice. I know it violates my contract to pull money out of the business. I have no choice. The American Communists have used our values against us. They've manipulated us. They've manipulated courts and laws and even the Constitution itself to justify the mass importation of foreign barbarians for decades into this country. We are now in a situation that is dire. I know we are feeling good right now and we're pointing
towards the right direction. Our situation is dire. The contract has already been broken. You can say, like you said here, it would be the lighting of the fire that couldn't be contained. The fires out of control. The fires already out of control, it's already not contained. The American president created an app so foreigners can just invade our country using an app on their phone that you paid for. Joe Biden sued so he didn't have to build the border wall that was the law. And then before Trump
could take over, they sold off the materials. I know, people who want to believe were in a different era, people who believe in the law and the constitution, in rules and the courts. I know that it's really, really, really hard to accept where we are as a country. It's going to sound unrelated, but it is not. Roe
versus Wade got overturned by the Supreme Court. The communists got mad about it, and in response to a Supreme Court decision they didn't like, they decided to dig up an old obscure law so they could justify a resting pro life activists. The law, what law. We can't contain it anymore. It's not contained. It's not I I know, we want to believe that if we if we just kind of stay within the rules and and look, if we have to abide by the law, and then there's
no more law, that country's not here. Anymore. And I'm not celebrating that. I think that our situation right now is awful. I hope you don't think. I hope I haven't given you the impression that I'm happy about this. I'm horrified. I'm disgusted. And yeah, it's that quote. Chris just brought it up, that famous quote we talk about
all the time, Pompy of Rome. It's flat out said to somebody someone, as he and his gang of thugs they were beating up on somebody, someone told him it was against the law, and Pompey looked at him in disgusted and said, do not quote laws to men with swords. I know, we don't want to live in an era where it's men with swords. I don't want to live in that. You don't want to live in that. I didn't get that choice, neither did you. What if they
didn't violate the law, that's all they do. If we are in a situation where we can't deport barbarians, the country's already finished. It is a Jesse Kelly show on a Friday. Chris, that's a good song. I don't know why you're dogging on him. That's a good song. Joining me. Now the man who chose that song, which Chris is dogging on Brandon Wikert, Senior National Security editor for The
National Interest. Okay, Brandon, first of all, I'll allow you to defend your music taste really quickly, and also, are we going to take Iran?
Well, the first thing is it's a great song, Chris. Yes, I love that song, and that's all I'm gonna say on that, and you know, thanks for sharing that that that opinion though, but it is a great song. And then the the second thing I'll say is unfortunately, on a on a more serious note, it definitely is looking like at the very least, the Israelis are in the next week going to take some kind of action directed against uh, the Iranians. I only say unfortunately because you know,
it's another war. Obviously, the Iranian regime is is not a good regime, and they are a threat to Israel. In terms of what the United States is going to do, Uh, we are definitely, as this ridiculous signal Gate, uh, you know, controversy has shown, we are definitely getting ready to really bust some houthi's you know, heads together. But there's also given the assets that we've deployed, notably the Diego Garcia, which is our big staging ground in the Indian Ocean
just south of the Middle East. It definitely looks like we might be planning to do something beyond just hitting the Houthies. We've got about thirty eight percent of our entire B two Spirit long range stealth bomber fleet now at Diego Garcia. You don't need many B twos to take on the Houthis, but you need them to take on those nuclear facilities, notably in the southern part of Iran, while the Israelis are likely going to hit the northern facilities like four to doh in Iran.
Okay, there's so much to unback here. You're gonna have to bear with me because I have a million ques. Well, I know people have a million questions as to I. First of all, I want you to dig into this Diego Garcia. I know what it is, but a lot of people do not. What is it? Explained?
It's a it's a major staging ground.
It's base.
We have a we have a base, very large base there. We use that as sort of a midpoint for our forces when they're operating. You know, in Africa, the Middle East as well as in Asia. It's sort of like the perfect Middle area. It's got a massive airfield there, It's got another base there that people don't talk about. Uh there's some capabilities at Diego Garcia that are classified. And it's in the Indian Ocean and it's just south
of Iran and the Persian Gulf. Uh So it is a perfect sort of staging ground if you're planning to do strikes directed against the Hoho thieves and Yemen, which is sort of in the southern part of the Middle East. Uh or and or against targets in southern Iran.
John, sorry, Brandon, please explain to me why why this is necessary. And I'm not saying it's not. I'm not arguing against it, but in Israel's eyes, why is it's necessary? In our eyes, why is it necessary? Is he run planning something? But why is it necessary?
Now?
I guess I should say, well, I.
Think the Israelis feel like their backs are up against the wall. October seventh caught them by surprise. The Hamas, Hezbollah, even Fatah in the West Bank, and definitely the hu this are all Iranian backed. I think also Netsan Yahu thinks this is a window of opportunity that he might
not get again. He just helped to collapse the Assad regime, which I actually think was a mistake, But he just helped to collapse the Assad regime in neighboring Syria, which means, for the first time in decades, Israeli warplanes have a relatively secure and reliable air cord or to safely fly from his Israeli airspace through Syria, through northern Iraq into
northern Iran. And Netanyahu's looking around. He doesn't know how long this situation will last because Syria is so unstable, and he's got to worry about what Hamas is getting ready to do, and he still has to worry about Hesbala to the north and Lebanon. So striking Iran in the Israeli calculus is you're basically hit, you know, going after the head of the whole body here, which is Iran. For the United States, we have some interest in destroying
the Houthis who are supported by Iran. We certainly do not benefit from having an Iranian nuclear weapons capability. At the same time, though, what I fear is that this is a very bad time to do a war. Jd Vance was saying this about the Houthis in that signal app that was released in the Atlantic, where he was saying, you know, we could basically strike the Houthis anytime. Why don't we have to do this now? My thought with Iran is we could basically knock out the Iranians anytime.
Why do this now? It's going to suck all the oxygen out of Trump's very transformative agenda in DC right now, A war and then the least will but ultimately we are aligned with Israel, and I think Israel is the one that really wants to do this now because they don't think they'll be able to again. And we're going to have Israel's back, and so that means will we'll be positioned to knock out the who these and possibly even to assist Israel with direct air strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities.
Okay, Brandon, I hope you have a few minutes for me, because the more you've educated me, the more questions continue to pop into my minds. I know they pop in the minds of other people. First, I'm going to actually drill down on something you said, because it's nothing for you, but most people don't understand this. I want you to talk about the air corridor for Israel and what air corridor. People don't make that connection, you know, maps and planes
and fuel and they just don't make that. What do you think talking about?
Yeah, so basically, you know, Israel is a very small country on the coast of the Eastern Mediterranean. It's got Lebanon right above it, and then right next to it, it's got Syria. And right now, right now the Syria, Syria's open basically the airspace. They don't have a SOD there. There's no coordinated anti air capability anymore because a SOD is gone. So now Israeli planes can safely fly from Israel over Syria and Iraq and into Iran, whereas before when ASAD was there, it was not available.
Okay, now that is actually exactly what I wanted to ask next. Not available? What does not available mean, Brandon? Not available as in we'll send our fighter jets up to shoot you down. Not available as in we have SAMs that we'll shoot with. Sorry, surfaced air missiles will shoot you down. Not what does not available mean? Because my next question, just to let you know, is going to be about Iran and their ability to take planes out of the sky.
Yeah, well so right. So the Syria under a SAD they had a fairly comprehensive air defense capability. The moment he the Assad regime collapsed, the the Israelis basically went in and knocked out all the known anti aircraft systems that were left abandoned by Asad's army, so that there's basically is no capability now to threaten Israeli warplanes if and when they decide to cross using that air corridor.
Now you mentioned the service to air missile and the anti aircraft defenses of Iran, those there significantly more comprehensive and advanced than anything Assad had yet the Yet the Iranians have been shown the Russian S three hundred that they were using in October. The Russian S three hundred that they were using in October was basically knocked out by Israeli warplanes and they were able to kind of have escalation dominance over Iran for a period of time.
Yet the Russians have since October been flooding Iran with more advanced anti aircraft systems and very well could have the S four hundred. The Russians are giving the Iranians the Su thirty five warplane. They might even be trying to sell them the Su fifty seven, which is Russia's fifth generation plane, to augment Iranian capabilities to stop in Israeli or even American air strike. But that's going to take time for Iran to build up, which is why I think also the Israelis want to go.
Now speaking with Brandon Wikert, Brandon, I apologize because I should have asked you this beforehand, But do you buy chance have another quick segment for me, because I have about fifty more questions. I'm gonna try to squeeze it. Brandon Wikert is gonna join us again here in just a moment. I'm sure you have questions. I have questions. Look at how smart we're getting, and we can steal Brandon's knowledge and pass it off as our own all
weekend long. It is the Jesse Kelly Show, returning with the wealth of knowledge, that is Brandon Wikert about all this national security stuff. Okay, where we left off, Brandon, you were talking about Russia providing Iran with with anti air missiles, things like missile defense systems, things like that. You mentioned things like the three hundred versus the four hundred,
And where's what I want to know. One, how does all this come into play when we are currently trying to negotiate a Ukrainian Russian piece at the same time Russia's handing Iran things to shoot down our planes. That's one and two. Are these systems the four hundred? Is it able to shoot down our planes and or Israel's planes?
Yeah, So the first point is it's going to complicate our ability to get a deal. Now. I was convinced Trump was going to be able to get a deal by now, at least the ceasefire. But I think the Trump administration has unfortunately made a couple of mistakes, and now if they get sucked into this Middle East thing, it's we're really going to be complicated here getting a deal in Ukraine at the same time the Russians. And I wrote about this at the Washington Times about a
year ago. The reason Iran has not you know, every time that Israel strikes them over the last year and a half, Iran promises the mother of all retaliations, and then it's kind of not that big of a deal, and everybody's kind of like, why what are they talking about? Well, The reason the Iranian retaliations have not been that strong, from what I understand, is that the Putin government has been holding the Iranian government back. They didn't want to
see a massive, unfettered escalation in the Middle East. At the same time, the Russians are mired in Ukraine. So the way I see what the Russians are doing is they're trying to, in their mind, restore some semblance of deterrence. They don't want to see their proxy in Iran fall, that's why they're giving them these systems. But at the same time, for the last year, they really prevented Iran from doing more offensive operations of the kind that the
Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Corps wanted to do. And so there's a window there if you know that, if you're negotiating with Russia and the Trump administration, the window then you say, is okay, the Russians are just trying to basically enhance the defensiveness of Iran. They're not trying to give them significant offensive capacity. So if we don't go too hard against Iran right this second, we can probably put that
on ice and get a deal with Ukraine. But if we go hard near term and I'm hearing from people in Israel. Israel's talking about striking Iran in the next week, which will naturally force us to take on a more aggressive stance against Iran. But if we do that, the downside will be it's probably going to destroy any chance of getting a piece deal.
Oh well, this is all lovely, But this is why I wanted you to come on, Brandon. I'm going to ask the well. I was about to call it a million dollar question, but historically, I guess it's a multi trillion dollar question. Brandon. Let's say the Iranian regime does fall because of Israel's bombs and our bombs and everything. What is the plan after that?
So this is the issue, and this is you know, you remember Colin Powell before Iraq, you break it, you own it. And so I do think we could probably get rid of that regime pretty quickly. Now, we might lose a lot of planes, we might even lose a carrier in the Red Sea if we're not careful, But I think Israel and the United States could destroy that regime in Iran. The problem is what comes after, So I think, and Netanyahu sort of said this in August
of last year. He's very fond and I like this guy too, the Shah's grandson, the former king of Iran who was over thrown by the current regime, the Islamist regime in Iran. He has a grandson who lives in Washington, d C. He's very active, and he's been lobbying hard for the last several years to basically, you know, be brought back into power in Iran. And there is a movement in Iran that wants to see a restoration of
the constitutional monarchy that existed before nineteen seventy nine. The problem that I have is a I don't know how significant his support is. I worry he could be another Akman Shalabbi, who was the guy we wanted to hand to raq Do in two thousand and three, and it turned out he didn't really have support, which is why that plan fell apart as soon as we invaded. So my concern is that. My concern also is there are other factions on the ground in Iran that probably do
not want to see the king return. And so you're going and then plus you're gonna have if we topple the Ayatola and his Mullahs, you're going to have elements of the regime that are still well organized, that will take on an insurgency roll. So you're going to have Iran as a failed state. How do you handle that? I would hope we're not going to seriously think about putting troops on the ground in Iran at any time. You could see Turkey moving troops in, but that's a
NATO member. So there's the knock on effects here are very complicating, and all this means is actually the region is less stable, less safe. And by the way, unfortunately, the Trump agenda at home would be seriously complicated because all of his political momentum would then have to shift from goup doge and swamp draining in DC to then focusing on the Middle East war.
Yeah, I'm sure the American people who roundly put Donald Trump back in the White House to fix inflation and immigration, I'm sure they're going to be doing backflips to just support yet another war in the Middle East. Brandon Weigert, you are the man. Brother. Thank you for making us smarter and at the same time making us all feel bad going into the weekend. Brandon, thank you all right, bybye.
Look I just tell you. Jewish producer Chris and I were exchanging some some tough looks during that whole thing. This all sounds like a disaster. This sounds like a disaster. And this is the part about foreign policy that is so incredibly difficult. Everybody, everybody in the taking part in all this. I'm talking about the Nation States and addition different factions. They all kind of have a point, and they all kind of don't right. Israel wanted a sad gone.
That was very understandable. Is the world better off now that a sod has gone? And ow ka, it's taking over Syria. No, that's not good either. Israel wants Iran taken out and views this as a window of opportunity. They're correct about that the country that talks about wiping them off the planet is now vulnerable. At the same time, does that help the plan if we destabilize another majorment, Oh my gosh, that's gonna be a frigging mess. And it might be coming next week, so that should be fun.
But I will look, I'll tell you what, Let's just have a brief talk about this. We'll get back to the ask doctor Jesse questions. Let's have a talk about this politically. Next