This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman, really happy to be with you. Hope you are having a great Friday. It was a progressively worse Friday by the hour for this little guy named Zelenski from Ukraine. I think it all started really getting bad from the moment Zelensky stepped out of his escalade as President Trump, all dressed up, of course, greeted him and there was Zelensky in his pajamas. That didn't work out very well. I'm controlling him at this point.
Now he's all dressed up today.
I mean, at that point, you know, you don't have the decency to show up even with a blazer on. I realized this is kind of Zelensky's get up, and this is what he does and how he dresses he. I think he has u the only line of grannimals still left on the planet. And you know, sometimes he'll show up in his fatigues everything else. But I think President Trump was insinuating somehow he dressed up because this time instead of his fatigues and jeans and everything else,
he was dressed all in black. So that must have been a romantic flare for Zelenski. But nonetheless, you show up for a very consequential meeting, you're not even remotely dressed up, and you're coming already with an attitude, and that attitude is, yeah, I'll give you respect if I want to give you respect, but not now. So he arrives and then suddenly they're in the Oval office and all heck breaks loose because Zelensky is obviously in no situation where he wants to show any kind of respect
to President Trump. JD. Vance is there. I think I know the reason why JD. Vance was so prominent in this discussion, but I'll talk to you about that in just a little bit. Zelensky as he is talking with Trump and Vance is using all kinds of really disrespectful body language, and he's got his you know, he's got the closed pose going, you know, with his arms in front of him, and he seems to be playing a
little bit to the media cameras. Now, of course, this is a guy who has appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair more than Malania Trump, by the way, which her score is zero on that and all these other people magazine, and he's for a while there he was everybody's plush toy, cute little Zelenski victim all that kind of stuff, even though obviously I'm not quite sure that Ukrainians, for the most part, are even going to see what we all saw today because Zelensky has the media all
shut down. Aside from closing churches and everything else, there is really no independent media. They're the ones that did exist were funded by us AI D. So I'm not even quite sure whether the Ukrainians are even going to see the behavior of their leader, who, by the way,
refuses to stand for election. And I think after today, as he completely destroyed any effort for peace and in fact doubled down on his petulance and his arrogance, I think if they held elections tomorrow, he almost certainly would lose. The'se got bad, especially as he decided he was going to take on JD. Vance in a contentious.
Round about the diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
But President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come to these This.
Is the point right in the middle of all this, where he starts to look out at the media, because that's his audience. Right now, the American people are fed up with the kind of money we've been sending over there with Zelensky's dictatorial attitude in Ukraine. And the fact of the matter is President Trump and JD. Vance, these guys are offering him a way out and also a source of protection from the US that he didn't even
really have before. Because when the US gets those minimal rights, minimaloids and the rare earth rights and everything else, that becomes protected territory, that becomes security provided by the US because we've got an interest in that land. And so you're kind of in a backwards way and a backhanded where you're getting support from the US that you didn't have before. It was all laid out for him. And as he's getting dressed down by JD. Vans, and it gets worse by the way he has his arms folded
in front of him. He's looking out at the cameras, rolling his eyes. This is not going well.
Try to litigate this in front of the American media right now. You guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thinking the president to bring it into this country.
Into Ukraine.
Did you say what problems we have?
I have been to Okay, so, dude, this is this is not good. You're starting an argument with jd Vance over how much he's actually visited Ukraine. And at this point the ambassador Zeleski's ambassador basically has her face buried in her hands as she's sitting in the audience there, and Marco Rubio is just like, oh, Lourie, what is going on here?
Actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president, are do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military? And do you think that respectful as to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your country.
A lot of a lot of questions. Let's start from the biginnis wolf during the war. Everybody has problems, even you, but you have nice oce and don't feel now.
But so then at that point President Trump is thinking, well, what world is this guy living in? Right now? This is this is where you had the You have the apprentice host plus the president United States basically at WIT's end, and President Trump had enough God, bless you.
Bless you.
Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. I'm not telling you because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember this, you're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. We're gonna feel very good. We're gonna feel very good and very strong. You're right now, not in a very good position. You've allowed you.
From the very beginning of the war.
Now I'm in a good position. You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having cards right.
If any of you have ever had a discussion with your father, an argument with your father, maybe where your dad is trying to tell you, hey, you need to shape up here, you're not in a very good position, and you're smart mouthing him again. I'm not saying that Letsky has to treat President Trump like his father, but
you know, you know how those arguments go. When you decide you're going to talk back, you're going to talk back to someone who actually has engaged themselves in your future and is providing you a way out of the devastation that your country has undergone. At the hands of Putin and the rest of the gang, and of course the deaths of your citizens, and so, like like a father, you know, they're they're they're they're providing you a roof of your head, they're providing you a future, They're they're
teaching you, they're helping you. And Zelenski decides his tactic is just a smart.
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to.
The country, this country, far more than a lot of people said they should have.
Have you said at times.
You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October, offers some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Yeah, this was absolutely epic in all the best ways. And I believe that any American watching this could not have had a good feeling about Ukraine. Of course, you have the usual suspects, mainly in the news media and everything else, who will always find a way to cheer on a lack of success, especially if Donald Trump is involved in it, and so they're gonna call him a
Putin puppet, and they have. But guess what, this exchange actually turned even one of the biggest warmongers for Ukraine into a supporter of President Trump and what was going on and a detractor of Zelensky. Some gonna have that for you. Plus why was JD there? I think I know the reason. I'm Jamie Almon really privileged to be filling in for the Great Jesse Kelly. This is the Jesse Kelly Show happening with you, Jamie Alman here filling
in for the Great Jesse Kelly. And so the White House Press Office staff really got a big windfall out of the blow up in the Oval Office because it happened right before lunch, you see, and President Trump and Zelenski were supposed to have lunch after their little confab in the Oval Office and went all was said and done, and President Trump basically ended the meeting and they were on their way to kicking Zelenski out of the White House.
They're sat in the hallway lunch, yeah, for both President Trump and Zelenski, and I'm assuming maybe a few few other people. And the White House Press Office staff is like anybody canna eat that lunch because it would you know, so, so the so the White House Press staff wound up eating Zelenski's lunch in President Trump's lunch. And by the way, President Trump already had lunch technically because he had Zelenski for lunch, and so, uh, Zelenski's the only one who
didn't didn't actually ever or eat the lunch. So, you know, Lindsey Graham is like, he's never met a war that he didn't want to get involved in. And he was really super lathered up about the Ukraine thing. I mean, any amount of money, anything they need, you know, whatever. Lindsey Graham was like, all in, one of the biggest warmongers on the planet. And Zelensky's ridiculous behavior and his arrogance, his hubris, his lack of even a remote amount of gratitude even made Lindsey Graham man.
It was Zelensky this morning. I urged him to stay on message, be grateful, be thankful. We'll talk about details as security guarantees later, keep it up, keep it positive, because absolute utter disaster. The question for me is is he redeemable in the eyes of Americans? Most Americans witnessing what they saw today, would not want Selensky to be their partner, including me, and I've been to Ukraine nine times since the war started.
You're usually carrying a check, but it looks like those days are over for Lindsay.
Met with him this morning.
President Trump I talked to last night. He was upbeat about the deal. I've never been more proud of President Trump for showing the American people in the world, you don't trifle with this man. He was very positive, he was very upbeat. He wanted to get a cease fire, he wants to end the war, and Zelenski felt like he needed debate Trump in the Oval office.
JD was awesome. So JD was awesome, absolutely, And you wondered because GD was very prominent in this meeting, very very forceful.
Times.
He went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offers some words of appreciation for the United States of America.
In the prison the saving people. If you're if you're like me, you you're wondering. That's interesting because I've seen many situations and meetings with President Trump and world leaders. In fact, he had two of them this this week with McCrone and the UK Prime minister, and you just see President Trump and the leader there. You rarely see, although JD. Vance is usually there, you rarely see JD Vance having much of a prominent role in the discussions
and beyond. But this time J d was absolutely involved. So why, well, I I don't know for a fact, But basically, Zelenski has this kind of attitude because he's a grifter and in many ways kind of has a has a criminal mind. For a guy like Zelenski, he could think, why I could just wait four years for this and we could keep getting money or doing whatever, and I could wait four years and Trump would be gone. And until you realize Trump is really never gonna be gone.
He might have he might be out of office obviously four years from now, but guess who's gonna be there after him? In all likelihood it's JD. Vance. And so the message for today, especially with JD Vance getting in Zelensky's face the way he did, is the message to Zelensky and for that matter, pretty much any world leader who wants to try to make a mockery of the United States of America and it's very generous policies and offers.
This was a reminder of Zlenski that if he's thinking it's all gonna end when Trump leaves, it's not Zelenski, and any other world leader who wants to mess with us is gonna have twelve years of this because jd Vance is inextricably tied to the Make America Great Again agenda. He is a absolutely in lockstep with President Trump's policies,
especially as it relates to Ukraine. And so any chance somehow that this could be kind of a waiting game where Zelenski just can can configure, he can wait it out and for the next guy, well, this was a clear indication of exactly who the next guy is going to be. Yeah, there might be some people primary ing and in the primary and running against Jad Evans, but I think it's pretty clear that he's going to be the next president of the United States and probably will
be for two terms. Of course, that all depends on the relative success of this Trump administration, which I believe is going to go very well. And so the art of involving JD Vance at this level I think is a really good one. It's absolutely crafty, and it's absolutely by design to make sure Zelenski knows that this is his life. This is the life or for that matter, any Ukrainian leader, this is the life that they're going to be experiencing for twelve years and maybe even more
after that. That's the art of this. And so I think it was absolutely no accident in any way, shape or form that jd Vance was there, and certainly no accident that jd Vance actually at one point was taking the lead in the discussion and taking the lead in making sure that Zelensky is properly schooled in what exactly this country and the Trump administration is doing for him, and this is our policy ongoing. So it was a
great move and jd Vance was obviously fantastic there. So a great day for America, and I think a really bad day for Zelenski and all those harpies out there who continue to want to drain our treasury for this guy. He's not worth the time, all right? Is trash really piling up in our national parks because of Elon Musk? Some people are pretending it is. I'll have all that for you. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Happy Friday, everybody,
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman here, really super happy to be with you and sorry, we're not done with Zelensky yet. There's a lot more a lot of it happening after the blow up, so you're probably hearing a lot of you know, in terms of the SoundBite wheel on all kinds of different shows and the news and all that kind of stuff. That stuff I played you earlier where it was very contentious and everything else. But after that blow up, there are some very interesting
things that went on. Zelensky tried to, I guess, try to make some as ends in some way, shape or form, but by then both President Trump and JD. Vance had actually had enough. According to some of the people paying attention to stuff behind the scenes, they were really shocked by Zelenski's behavior. They I mean, even though he showed up in his pajamas, they didn't expect him to be
this verbally disrespectful. And of course, Zolenskys, as you probably realize already, is a guy who tends to believe his own press a lot. So he kind of wandered in there thinking that the American media was behind him. But unfortunately, as you know, based on election after election and especially the presidential election, having the American media behind you doesn't
guarantee your success. It doesn't work that way. So I don't know what Zelenski was thinking or whatever, but my goodness, gracious, these two guys rolled out the carpet for him, and we're I mean, they're gonna sign a mineral deal that would provide him with security, and we provide the people of Ukraine with the kind of security. They must be absolutely outraged. We haven't heard anything from them yet. I'm
sure eventually we will. But keep in mind, Zelensky, among many things that he's done in his dictorial role, has totally shut down the media. There. There's only, you know, one propagandist arm of the media. So whether or not even the Ukrainians are seeing this, although they have the Internet, they know this, But I don't know how that's arranged
in Ukraine. Once they see this and they see that their fearless leader threw them all under the bus in the Oval Office, I don't think people are gonna be very happy anyway. In the aftermath of the blow up that you're hearing much of. Here's here's a little bit of an exchange with President Trump and JD. Vans and Zelenski.
He's a lot of talking country is in big trouble.
I know you're not winning. You're not winning this.
You have a damn good chance, I.
Know, Dad, I mean that's what that's what it kind of became, is this discussion as it went out earlier between dad and son and man did Zelenski's tune changed a little bit at that point. He didn't have his arms crossed in his clothes pose and he wasn't, you know, kind of mugging for the TV cameras or anything else. He knew that he made a serious series winning.
You have a damn good chance of coming out, Okay.
Because of President, we were staying Yawa country, staying strong.
From the very beginning of the war. We've been alone and we are thankful.
I said, we gave you, through this stupid president, three hundred and fifty billion dollars.
We gave you military equipment and you meant up braves. But they had to use our.
Military one of ours. If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over into wit.
Yeah. And of course at this point, you know, Zelensky has what's called flop sweats, where he knew that he had burned such a significant bridge, and this isn't about President Trump's ego, And as I'm sure some news media people are saying, oh, yeah, it was just about his ego and he needn't like to be chumped out. Nobody likes to be chumped out in public that way, and certainly President Trump doesn't like to be chumped out in that way and certainly doesn't deserve it in any way,
shape or form. And then Zelenski tries to kind of appeal to the enforcer, Jady Vans, who's there. This is great, This was like it's almost like a Godfather movie, you know, and you've got the Godfather there, and then you've got his trustee, lieutenant, his attorney usually right, and it's just and Evans, and so Zelensky tries to kind of appeal to mom. I guess this is this is his dad to Zelenski, this is mom.
Yeah, what kind of diplomacy gg us became involves?
And by the way he called him JD, you know, this is I mean, how do you do that? How do you do that in a situation like this? And again, you know you have to it's about respect. And Zelensky acts like, you know, and of course that's a big error. Sometimes with people who are your superiors whatever, uh, or people who you are negotiating with or whatever, you treat
them with the utmost respect. And even though I'm sure Zelensky and he might, you know, he might be raised differently, whatever, might think that that was a way to somehow become more familiar with the Vice President of the United States by calling him by his first name.
You know, what do you mean.
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you.
President with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media.
Yeah. So anyway, it didn't it didn't work out well. And now, of course it's it's getting even worse. And now it's more than just the visual running down of President Trump and JD. Vance and the obvious right there on television destruction of a great deal. Now things are starting to fall in terms of more dominoes. So Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who, by the way, I don't know if he saw his face in the video, he was mortified. He couldn't believe what he was seeing in
the Oval office. So Marco Rubio has now just terminated the US support of Ukraine's power grid as a result of what happened today. And of course you might already know that Ukraine has really been beset by blackout after blackout after blackout, and the US has been providing money as well as skill to try to fortify the power grid. And after that meeting, Secretary of State Marco Rubio terminated
the US support of Ukraine's power grid. And if you think Ukrainians will be happy about that, and how Zelenski's destructive behavior is now going to affect them more deeply than they ever really even imagined, especially in terms of the US pulling back on its support, especially that basic kind of technical support regarding the power grid that just is a disaster. Then of course President Trump also in the wick of this meeting, said he was considering cutting
off the shipments of military a to Ukraine. And if I'm if i'm Zelenski, I'm actually wondering whether I need to I should even go back, because I'm telling you he has ruined everything for the Ukrainian people, and there might be a chance in some way, shape or form me because we all know how President Trump negotiates, and he can be a pretty tough cookie on a number of different levels. And some of it is sometimes an
act where he'll kind of be tough. He'll be, you know, kind of open in front of the cameras and all that kind of stuff, and he'll be and he'll be tough for the purposes of maybe getting someone to go his way. But I don't think I've ever seen that wasn't President Trump necessarily being tough. That was President Trump being absolutely outraged and insulted. And I would be shocked if there's somehow, some kind of come around to maybe reconsidering the deal or the help because President Trump was
upset and absolutely rightly so. Speaking of tough negotiating, guess what, the tariff threats have apparently already resulted in some pretty amazing things for the United States of America, especially as it relates to new business and businesses spending more money. I'll have that for you. Plus, the park rangers are claiming there's trash all over the place, even though I'm seeing empty trash cans. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Almond happy to be here. This is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Jamie Alman here really happened to be filling in for the great Jesse Kelly.
And so.
I believe that the if President Trump is going to offer anything in terms of reviving any hope of some kind of deal, President Trump is in the driver's seat right now and will ultimately if there is any gamesmanship here. There's a chance after today that President Trump is done with this. I'm not doing anything else, You're not getting any more money, any more military aid, We're not even helping your power grid anymore, and just wash his hands
of him. We'll see. But there's also a chance that President Trump could say, here's a deal in order for us to go back to the bargaining table, back to a table where we actually can make any kind of pact with you. We want to find out if you're actually the real president of Ukraine, meaning we want to find out whether you actually have the support of the people. Especially after your behavior. We now want to see whether or not the people approve of you, and whether or
not we actually want to actually deal with you. Because, as you know, Zelenski canceled the elections a year ago. There has been some reporting regarding the numbers and that the opposition actually was pulling ahead of him in some ways. So if I'm President Trump and I actually feel charitable at this point, I'm saying, that's great. Okay, tell you what, you hold elections within two weeks, and if you're voted in, we'll invite you to the White House again, or you'll
meet me in mary Lago or whatever. And if somebody beats you, we'll invite them and we'll see who the real president of It's like, it's kind of like a world a global version of The Apprentice. We're gonna we're gonna see whether or not your country's gonna fire you or keep you, because we don't want to actually deal business with a guy who isn't trusted by the country and it actually doesn't seem to have the country's best
interest at heart. So what we're gonna do is we're going to force you to have elections and see whether or not you get re elected, and then maybe we'll talk. I think that ought to be a condition of any return to the negotiating table for Zelenski and President Trump. Zelenski appearing on Fox News within the last hour or so with Brett Bear. So this is the first we've heard from Zelensky. He did issue a statement, but this is the first we've heard out of his mouth since
the dust up there in the Oval office. In the Oval Office, do you think you did and do you think you owe an apology? To President Trump? Thanks so much?
First of all, thank you for invitation, for the dollar and good evening, to all your concert, to all Americans. Very thankful to to Americans for all your support. You did a lot. I'm thankful to President Trump.
And this is this is where this is where the thank yous are coming in. I guess you know yet he's had some time to think about it, apparently.
By partisan support. And I was always very thankful from all our people.
I just didn't thank the President or the Vice president where I was sitting with them in the Oval Office. But I've always been thankful, you know, I can't you see I have, you know, just thankful written all over my face. So why do I have to say?
It helped us a lot from the very beginning during three years of full game invasion.
You helped us to survive. And anyway, we.
Are strategic partners and even in such top dialogue, and I think it's we have to be very honest and we have to be very direct to understand each other because it's worry for us, very necessary to President Trump. And I'm with all the respect that he wants to finish this war, but not nobody wants to finish more than we.
Yeah, no, not. You didn't indicate that today. I don't know whether it's just that he was sleep deprived or had a bad mourning or what it was. But man, he marched into that Oval office like he owned the place, and he sat there in that chair, acting as if he was lording over President Trump and Vice President Advance. And I'm like, man, what is going on with you? And he's not answering Brad Bear's.
Question because we in Ukraine, we are in this war. We're in this battle and battle for freedom for our lives still. So I'm just telling that I think that we have to be on the same side, and I hope that the President on our side together with us, and that is very important.
Yeah, the President has already answered that question, and it's kind of even more of an insult for Zelensky to go on Fox News the way he is with this Brett Beer interview and somehow doubt whether or not President Trump is on his side. President Trump is the one who invited him to the White House to potentially sign a deal that would save the country. And guess what
else it would save. It would probably save Zelensky's political life, because if Zelensky were able to sign this deal and have that joint news conference and all that other fancy stuff, he would have went back to Ukraine as kind of a hero. I don't know that for sure, but he would have gone back to Ukraine with a security deal that would be brought to him by the United States of America, the most powerful, generous country in the world. He would have gone back with a sign document showing
that Ukraine could be saved. But then again, why in the end you really want a war to end when the war is keeping you in office because you've declared martial law, right, and the war is keeping you rich because of the money coming in. You know, half the money you lost, I don't, you can't even you don't even know where it is. And why would you really want peace when war is actually helping you as Zelensky stop putting it?
And I heard Trump, President Trump a lot of times that he will stop the war, and I hope he will, and we need to preasure him with Europe, with all the partners.
Well, you know that's not an answer. And the chance to stop the war was at ten thirty this morning, and Zelensky decided he was going to take a pass on it. And that's that's the worst part. And now things are unraveling so quickly for not only Zelensky now but also his country. We'll see how this whole thing goes. There'll be more President trumpets back speaking to reporters as well. How that for you down the line. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Jamie Alman, happy to be filling in