Welcome to the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Alman here really happy to be filling in for the great Jesse Kelly. And I think maybe he might be hearing something a little bit from the Ukrainians. And I think in one chorus, all going, you managed to lose Lindsey Graham. Yeah, I mean, Lindsey Graham is now like Zelenski who after that debacle today at the White House. Lindsey Graham listen. I'm sure he's done a lot of good things in his life and he's an all right guy, and he supported Trump
when sometimes when Trump needed a support. I get it. I want to be too hard on him, but the fact of the better is Lindsey Graham, you know, he loves the Ukraine War thing. You know, he loves all the unlimited abouts of billions of dollars going to Ukraine and the whole fight against Peteon type of things, you know,
that kind of thing. He's like really, you know, likes that whole Cold War mentality and loves the fact that it's you know, it's a bad guy and it's like yeah, I know, but yeah, So anyway, Lindsey Graham saw what happened in the Oval office today, and Lindsey Graham's like acting like he's never liked Jelenzka. I don't even know the guy. I've never even come near him, and I don't even know him. But I think that Trump did a great job there.
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I never know more.
Out of President Trump for showing the American people in the world you don't trifle with this.
Yeah.
Man, he was very positive, it was very upbeat.
He wanted to get a cease fire, he wants to end the war, and Zelensky felt like he needed debate Trump in the Oval office.
JD was awesome. This was a missed opportunity.
And the question for me, uh, for the Ukrainian people, I don't know if Zelensky can ever get you to where you want to go with the United States, either he dramatically changes or you need to get somebody new.
Yeah, those are pretty those are pretty harsh words of a guy who at one point believes a Vilensky could do no wrong and was supportive of this proxy war with Russia. And you know, Lindsey Graham's a little part of this is that Lindsey Graham probably isn't really loyal to anybody necessarily, and he will turn on you, and he'll throw you away at the drop of a hat when it's clear you're not a popular person anymore and you made a big mistake. And so it's a little
bit like a little Rascal's play here. And Lindsey Graham is now heralding not only President Trump and JD Vance, but also suggesting that there could be a possibility that Zelensky ought to be turned out. And that's why. And I believe President Trump does have Zelenski's does have Lindsey Graham's ear, and I think that Lindsey Graham might be suggesting that over the last next couple of days or so,
that there be perhaps an attachment of some strings. And you know, at this point, maybe those strings mean a calling for elections in two weeks to see whether they're dealing with the guy who really does represent Ukraine, because right now we don't know whether Zelenski really represents Ukraine because there are no elections, so we get that, so that might be a possibility. I mean, anything can happen.
Obviously between now and the weekend. We can have Zelenski flying down to Mary a Lago, agreeing to everything, and then it's a big happy occasion at mari A Lago on Saturday or Sunday, and it's all done and that was just a little family fight and we're okay. Everything's good now. If you're a Zelenski, you're one to do that because you just basically possibly have lost your post if indeed there are strings attached about the upcoming need
for upcoming elections, and that's not something Zelensky wants. He's not as popular as people say that he is. There at least according to some of the polling or the investigations done to the opposition, where there's been some people who actually like the other guys and not Zelenski. So
at this point Zelensky knows he's screwed up. He goes on Brett Bear's show, doesn't answer Brett Bear's question, but still does talk about what he probably should have talked about in the Oval Office, and that is gratital office.
Do you think you did and do you think you owe an apology to President Trump?
Thanks so much. First of all, thank you for invitation. For this dollar.
You can say thank you like one hundred times.
Evening to all your country, to all Americans, and very thankful to to Americans. For all your support. You did a lot. I'm thankful to President Trump and to Congress by partisan support. And I was always very thankful from.
All our six six times. Already didn't say it once in the Oval office, but he's up to six now.
I think you helped us a lot from the very beginning, during three years of full scale invasion, you helped us to survive. And anyway, we are strategic partners, and even in such top dialogue, and I think it's we have to be very honest and we have to be very direct to understand each other because it's worry for us, very necessary to President Trump, and I'm with all respect that he wants to finish this war, but not nobody wants to finish more than we because.
You turned from President Trump. It's not absolutely not true, as you don't want to cease fire, so President Trump does. So I think just on that score alone, it's pretty easy to see that there is somebody who wants to end the war more than Zelenski, and that's President.
Sway in Ukraine, we are in this war, We're in this battle and battle for freedom for our lives still. So I'm just telling that I think that we have to be on the same side, and I hope that the president on our side together with us, and that's.
I don't know what more a Zelenski needs as proof that President Trump is on his side. President Trump is making a deal that even some people you know, in our realm, in the conservative element, are a little bit wary of, because when you get into this financial deal with Ukraine and you start operating on land that technically is now being held by Russia, you're now inextricably involved in any kind of conflict that arises out of all that.
So in many ways, we're probably closer to in some ways being militarily involved with Ukraine than we ever have been through this land deal. And that's a lot for President Trump or for America to offer that kind of linkage where we're tying our wrists together over the rare earth minerals deal and we don't know which way that's actually going to go. Something tells me Putin is not all that upset about that, and he wants the war over just as much, and how that's going to work
is another story. But for Zelensky to insinuate somehow that President Trump, well, I think he needs to be on our side. I said, wait a minute. He invited you to the White House, he offers you a deal, He was ready to sign a deal. He even had lunch ready for all of you that wound up in the hallway that the White House press staffers wound up vulturing on, which is fine with me. At least they'll give him
something a little bit. But yeah, I mean, so he was rolling out the red carpet for you, and what did you What did he get in return? A dude who didn't have the decency to even dress up for the occasion, where your granimal outfit to the to the event, and then you've smart mouthed him and jd Vance the whole time, and it's like, dude, there was there was a big commitment here that you blew. And I just don't know. I don't know how this is going to work. I don't know how this is going to wind up.
I don't I don't exactly know whether or not President Trump is now talking a big game, a tough game, which is what he does. And that's all good because usually it winds up working out really well for US, US or whether or not it's gonna say, oh yeah, come on down to Mary Lago and we'll uh, we'll hang out and we'll get this done. You can come, you can come on on back. We'll see because right
now President Trump is absolutely in the driver's seat. Unfortunately, Zelenski has abandoned any kind of seat on this ride as we try to head into peace. So we'll see. Speaking of tough talk, it looks like President Trump's Trump's tariff talks have really paid off in a big way for the United States. I'll have that for you. On the other side. Here, this is the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Jamie Allman.
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Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Alman here, really happy to be filling in for the great Jesse Kelly and the Euros all responding now, And what do you think they're saying about the Zelenski and President Trump blow up? Oh yeah, we love Zelenski. Goes Elenski, go get that bully out of here. We need a new world leader. Trump. Isn't
it Trump? Isn't that Trump is in this? And of course they a lot of them don't like President Trump because he's holding them accountable not only for their own military budgets, but also when it comes to global trade and beyond. So of course they want President Trump somehow removed from the world stage. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't know how you feel about all of this. But if they really love Zelenski so much, then let them take care of Zelenski. Let them deal with them.
We've only been in this war giving this money to Ukraine because it was a Joe Biden Democrat proxy war with Russia and a Neocon proxy war with Russia. That's all this is. It's the only reason why we're involved in there. President Trump finally found something to make it worthwhile,
like minerals and rare earth materials. But other than that, you know, Americas didn't support sending the billions of dollars over there, and and and really, in the end, this whole idea of inviting Ukraine into NATO is the most disastrous thing you could possibly do, because what you're doing is you're putting us on the hook for defending Ukraine militarily when something happens to them. I nobody want Americans don't want that. We're in a different we're in a
different age right now. You know, Zelenski came to a far different country than he came to back in the old days, and it's a different thing. So he's got the news media still blothering, slobbering all over him, and I get it. And the Europeans all loving them. I don't understand why they don't support President Trump because on this, because in the end, it's the Europeans who pay the largest price if putin decidets, he's going to roll into
another country or do whatever. So if if i'm President Trump's okay, why don't you guys go ahead and handle this. In the meantime, I'm gonna simultaneously refuse to give you any money for your military and if you and if you or any aid at all, and then if and if you want Ukraine in NATO, then you go ahead and have them in NATO and we will leave. How does that sound? So this is really all about revenge on the part of the Euros. So they're all in
line now with Zelenski. Of course they're chiming and they're like CBS News, it's like, you know, they're all everybody you all know, with the exception of Lindsay Graham, who I didn't expect really to be so loving in President Trump and Jade Vansday. You could pretty much know how everybody's going to be speaking about this. I mean, you know what the left is going to say, you know what the Democrats are gonna say, you know what Liz Cheney's gonna say, you know what John Bolton's gonna say.
It's kind of like become so predictable, you know what. So anybody who hates Trump is going to love Zelenski. And more power to it's speaking to speaking truth, the power, all that kind of stuff, you know, and we know, we know, and and and the reality is most Americans who really in the end are neither left nor really hard right. Most Americans look at this, they look what happened at the White House, and they're thinking, man, that's who is Who's that guy smart mouthing President Trump? Who's
that guy who thinks he's something? You know? I mean? And and that's how most Americans are seen as they know who Zelenski is. I'm not I'm just joking about that, but but most Americans who see what happened at the White House today have a mature and articulated view of what happened there. And and and you know, earlier I compared it to the you know, father speaking to the son who made a mistake, and the son continues to
smart mouth it, you know. I mean so so most of us will be able to sign our life experiences to what we see on television, which really, to tell you the truth. If I didn't know any better, I would think President Trump advance. Even though they claimed they were blindsided by all this, I believe that to a certain degree, President Trump wanted people to see who the real Zelenski is because I think this is how Zelenski
is in private with some of these people. And it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if President Trump just said turn on the cameras. Let's do that. Because they didn't meet in some back room before all this. This was their meeting normally, like a meeting will take place, and then they'll come out and they'll sit on those couches or those chairs together, somebody will ask them questions, and then they'll have a larger news conference and signing
ceremony and blah blah blah blah. But instead President Trump had the lights on and the cameras rolling for every moment of it. And we I think we I think we got to see a Zelenski that's always been there. I don't think Zelenski changed his tune or changed into a different person or whatever. I think this was the real Zelenski, and I'm not quite sure. President Trump was really too bothered to have that revealed to the world and especially to the United States, which is really his
primary focus. Revealed to the United States of who actually we're dealing with, who we've been spending hundreds of billions of dollars on, you know, who were actually offering a level of security to I think he wanted people to see Zelensky in that way, and I think Zelenski forgot, perhaps that he was in public or was so full of hubris that he thought that he would win America over by undermining and ridiculing a guy who just three months ago won by a landslide. I mean that that's
that's pretty amazing and totally and completely tone death. All Right, So President Trump is, you know, the Europeans don't like the fact, but I love the countries of Europe, but I love all countries, all different.
But the European Union has been it was formed in order to screw the United States.
Let's be honest. Yeah, of course, so that's not I don't like him. I love what he says. I love all countries, you know, it's like it's like Ringo Star, I love all people. But uh, anyway, they're all mad at him. They're afraid he's gonna hold them more accountable. So of course they're all, yeah, go Zelenska, you're the best. You know, you stand up to that bully, big bad orange man guy. Do it for take Take one for the team. And yeah, speaking of the Europeans, they're afraid
of the tariffs. President Trump is really absolutely serious about these hariiffs and it's already paying off. So I'm going to finally give you that great example of how Trump and it's tough talk and as gangsterism as it relates to tariffs, is paying off for all of us in many ways. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Jamie All. Hello, this is the Jesse Kelly Show, and I am Jamie al. I'm really super happy to be with all of you.
And so we do have finally some information from the police department on the fate of Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy and the dog and everything else, and so it looks like they have been able to rule out carbon monoxide, so he was performed.
Initial findings noted no external trauma to either individual. The manner and cause of death has not been determined. The official results of the autopsy and toxicology reports are pendy. Just today I spoke to doctor Durell, the pathologist from the New Mexico Office of the Medical Investigator. This was at two o'clock PM today. She advised that there were several tests that were submitted to be expedited. She revealed to me the following information. Both individuals tested negative for
carbon monoxide. An initial interrogation was conducted of mister Hackman's pacemaker. This revealed that his nasty event was recorded on February seventeenth, twenty twenty five.
Yeah, so that would be the time of the date of death. And they were in that house for a while. And I bring this up. Gene Hackman's one of my favorite actors. And if you everyone to watch like a really kind of good off the grid type of Gene Hackman movie. I always loved him in some of the Westerns, obviously the French Connection. I just loved him and so, but one of my favorite movie is called The Conversation,
and it's like from nineteen seventy one or two. I can't really remember, but the woman who played Sureley in Laverne and Shirley was one of the women in that movie. And it's pretty cool. It's like really far advanced for its time in terms of technology and spying technology and all this kind of stuff. It really is a great one. It's a little I mean, if you're used to, you know, some more of the faster moving action type of stuff or sports stuff that Gene Hackman was in, this will
be a little different of a taste for you. But it does kind of act like an art house movie a little bit, and it's a good movie. So if you're going to have a Gene Hackman film festival this weekend, then I would encourage you to include The Conversation, all right, so you see this. Hollywood released more than five hundred movies in twenty twenty four. The average American has watched only three of them. A new survey shows that there's a huge gap between what studios make and what people
actually watch. The survey also found a clear age divide in movie watching habits, with forty three percent of baby boomers saying they didn't see a single new movie this year. And I actually did not see a single new movie this year. And the survey also said that half of the Americans surveyed haven't watched any of the Best Picture nominees, Like I couldn't tell you one nominated picture, one one nominated actor. I don't know when the last time I
actually sat in a movie theater was. I love going to move. I went to the movies with my father, and back in the old days, we saw every movie ever made. Practically in the sixties and seventies. That was what my dad loved to do, was go to the movies and they eat a big old tub of the buttered popcorn. And so I saw every most every movie,
it does, didn't matter. We even saw like the really like crazy ones, like bugs and you know where there's these like roaches coming out of the fissures in the in some earthquake or whatever, and you know, Towering Ferno and airports seventy seven and seventy two or whatever it was. And then all the cowboy movies and all the war movies. So I love going to the theater. I just haven't, you know, I haven't sat in the movie theater and
heaven knows how long I think. I think the last time I actually sat in the movie theater when I took the kids to go see Coco, which is a Disney movie, really good movie by the way, one of the before they went nuts. But uh, Coco and so I. So, people just are in a different mode now in terms of how they're ingesting art Oftentimes, you know, people are with with our gravitation towards our devices or our computers or even for that matter, Netflix and things like that.
Most of the people I talk to who watch shows and things like that, they like love there's certain shows, but there's certain shows that are on cable television, you know, on Netflix or Hulu or whatever it is. Is there place where they're consuming the art. But but go actually going to a movie theater is really kind of a thing now. But it's not a thing now. People aren't really doing it. They're just not going to movie theaters.
You're seeing movie theaters closing down everywhere, which is kind of a bummer because you know, going to the theater, going to movies was kind of like a fun thing to do. It was exciting, you know, you'd go there and people were it was you know, the anticipation and you know, having your popcorn and your soda or whatever it is. And then you watching the previews and you know you're in the dark and it's really loud. It's great,
you know. And then then what happened is people started to go into the movies and then like talking during the movies all the time. Then they then they started having movie theaters that basically had these big lounging shares in them, which is one thing. But then of course you had uh theaters and had the lounging chairs and
people who would bring you food that you ordered. So at that point there'd be people, you know, on their phones or something ordering some food, and so you have somebody on their phone, so you had that little bright spot in there and whatever else. And then suddenly you people just you know, it became an experience that was not as pleasant and it wasn't as you know, kind of on the on the emotional end, as as a fun to do because you're just having to worry about
all the crazy habits of other people. All right back to the tariffs. Since the serious work of the Trump administration, well so you heard President Trump you talked about with the EU, the European I love the countries of Europe. I love all countries frankly, all different.
But the European Union has been it was formed in order to screw the units. I mean, let's be honest, the European Union was formed in order to screw the United States. That's the purpose of it. And they've done a good job of it.
But now I'm president, yeah, and so so of course the Europeans. The minute we have this kerfuffle at the White House, guess where the Europeans were all taking the side. Yah, yeah, of course. Zelenski. Oh yeah, he's a hero. Somebody used to put President Trump in his place and blah, what are they afraid of? They're afraid of what's happening with Eli Lilly. Uh and Lily has just announced that they are going to be throwing twenty seven billion dollars at
America because of tariffs. So what they're doing is they're coming back and doing their research and doing their stuff.
So these four sites, this is the.
CEO of Eli Lilly announcing on CNBC that they're going to create jobs and put together some new plants and everything else in the United States, four different plants.
The goal here will they be replacing overseas manufacturing or is this just.
A continuation of that increase of the obesity drug supply that you've been undertaking since twenty twenty.
Right, So today we're announcing four new sites, twenty seven billion additional spend, bringing our total to more than fifty billion since twenty twenty in the US. So huge build out in our country, and it's to support our pipeline growth overall, but disproportionately.
Growing in the US.
And so here we'll be building four new sites, three or active ingredient sites, and then one carentraal site for the injectable medications.
We're not having to not having companies, well, at least in Eli Lilly's case, going over and making the drugs like all the COVID drugs that were made in China, because President Trump with his threats, and this wasn't about the European Union as much as it is China threatening tariffs and saying, hey, you want to go over there, it's going to be more expensive for you to do business over there, which is precisely the goal of leveling the playing field in trade because it forces companies to
rethink getting all their stuff done overseascuse it's going to cost them more now because of the tariffs and indeed even the threats of tariffs. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Jamie Alman, truly happy to be with you Jesse Kelly's show, and Jamie Allman happy to be filling into the great Jesse Kelly. Thank you very much for listening. And so we have more of the Brett Bear Zelenski interview. And is Zelenski's just refusing to apologize. He's not going
to apologize to President Trump for anything. And again, obviously this might have to do with, you know, different cultures and different ways of doing things and different ways of being somebody whatever. But the fact of the matter is his behavior was disgusting, arrogant, and I hope President Trump doesn't invite him down to Mary Lago. I hope President Trump doesn't bend over backwards again and open the door for him. I hope there are conditions set onto whatever
reconvening there might be. There's no reason that how Zelensky should be rewarded for his behavior, and anything resembling some accommodation of him is rewarding his behavior, as President Trump said today, yeah you don't have any cards. Oh I'm not playing a card game. It's like, yeah, okay, nice, up to your room or in other words, get out. So Zelanski's refusing. He figured he's going to go on his usual media tour. He's interviewed by Bette Brett Bhaer.
Brett Baar was nice and tough on him. I'm glad about that. But he's you know, he's thinking that he's gonna get all of it. He actually he is. If you go to the mainstream media, they're all loving on Zeleska because they found somebody who they could use to hate on Trump, which is what they like to do. So you know, you go to the Drudge Report or any of these other organizations, and it's all about, you know,
Trump's a Putin puppet mobile. So everybody who hates President Trump, everybody who's really kind of a trader to a lot of American values, is all kind of gravitating and going behind Zelenskin. And he knows that, which is why his behavior was even more egregious and more cynical, because he was thinking because he knew what the headlines were going to be and they weren't going to be attacking Zelenski,
and they didn't. But those are the headlines of the mainstream media, and most Americans actually don't pay attention to the headlines of the mainstream media. There aren't really many normal, average everyday Americans. For instance, you voted for President Trump. Who even visit the Drudge Report website. I mean, nobody
really does, because nobody really cares that much. I mean we do sometimes, but most Americans they see this on TV, and you know, usually it's through Fox News, thankfully, because it's got some critical eye to it and they're seeing it. So anyway, you watched this interview with Zelenski and his likability factor is zero.
Asn't Trump said after your meeting that you disrespected him and the Vice president and all of America in the Oval office. Do you think you did? And do you think you owe an apology to President Trump?
So much? First of all, thank you for invitation for the dollar and good evening to all your concerts to all Americans. Sound very thankful.
To So he's gonna he's gonna decide, I'm just gonna keep thanking everybody. I'm gonna say all the things that I didn't have the humility to say in a meeting because I was in front of a bunch of television cameras, and I figured I could just kind of be the big dog, alpha male, even though I'm five to six. I could be the big dog, alpha male in the room, and I can I can be the guy that everybody sees on Vanity Fair. That's what he thought, so he
didn't have to say thank you. So now he's at least he's he's got a little humility here with Brett Behar, where he's starting to use the words that just would not come out of his mouth in his meeting.
Americans, for all your support, you did a lot. I'm thankful to Presidents Trump and to Congress by partisan support. And I was always very thankful from all our people. You helped us a lot from the very beginning during three years of full scale innovasion. You helped us to survive.
And anyway, we are strategic partners and even in such top dialog, and I think it's we have to be very honest and we have to be very direct to understand each other because it's worry for us wherein necessary to President Trump, and I'm with all the respect that he wants to finish this war, but not nobody wants to finish more than we because we in Ukraine, we are in this war. We are in this battle and battle for before.
He doesn't want peace. President Trump is right. Peace Uh doesn't keep him in office. Uh. Peace will force selections. Then he'll have to open up the media. Martial law won't be there anymore when you have peace, because Marshall Wall was declared because of the war, you won't continue to get money from other countries and aid and all this kind of stuff, and you won't be able to enrich yourself if there's peace. Zolensky, I love to see his personal fortune right now since the war started, or
the personal fortunes of his his compadres. And of course we all know that somebody asked him, hey, can you account for all the way? No, we don't know where one hundred million dollars went? Oh okay, wow, where is that? Yeah?
Freedom for our lives still. So I'm just telling that I think that we have to be on the same side, and I hope that the president on our side together with us, and that is very important to stop putting it. And I heard from President Trump a lot of times that he will stop the war, and I hope he will, and we need to pressure him with Europe, with all the partners. And I think this diala had to be
a little bit earlier to understand where we are. Like you know, I don't remember exactly, but like President Reagan said, that peace is not just an absent the war. Yes, we're speaking about just lasting peace, about freedom, about justice, about human rights. And that's why I said that. I think so that cease fire and you know put in he broke in twenty five times cease fire during all these years, ten years.
So I'm not hearing from you, mister president. Thought that you owe the president an apology.
Now I respect President and.
I respect no.
No.
I mean at least that Letsky's honest in his insufferability and his detestability. But we'll see how it goes. This weekend could bring some brand new stuff and we'll see President Trump is larger in charge and we'll see how that all rules. Thank you guys so much, Chris Little, thank you Corey, thank you guys, and thank you Jesse Kelly for the time, and thank you for listening. We have a great rest of your day. This is the Jesse Kelly Show and I'm Jamie Allman. Happy. So, who have been with you