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All right, speaking of a level of cancelation, it looks like Zelenski canceled pretty much any kind of trust in him today, not only as it relates to the Ukrainian people, but also as it relates to obviously President Trump and JD. Vance. And I'll explain later why JD Vance was so prominently involved in this dressdown of Zelensky. It was epic. It was great and fantastic for the future. Not so great for Zelenski's future, however, so he even managed to disenchant
Lindsey Graham. Now keep in mind, Lindsey Graham has gone to Ukraine like twenty times, usually with a check or with some promise of money. Lindsey Graham has been all hot and bothered over Zelenski for a long time, slobbering all over them all the time, defending our copious amounts of money we're sending to Ukraine, military aid, everything else.
This guy, Lindsey Graham has never met a war that he didn't like, and he really loved this one because it was just had everything to it, including kind of, you know, a proxy war with Russia, which is what the Biden administration really was into as it relates to Ukraine. So when you've lost Lindsey Graham, I mean, you got to imagine you're in real trouble. And Lindsey Graham stated as much when he was talking about it.
Never Trump for showing the American people in the world, you don't trifle with this man. He was very positive. It was very upbeat. He wanted to get a ceasefire, he wants to end the war, and Zelensky felt like he needed to debate Trump in the Oval office. JD
was awesome. This was a missed opportunity, and the question for me, uh, for the Ukrainian people, I don't know if Zelensky can ever get you to where you want to go with the United States, either he dramatically changes or you need to get somebody new.
Yeah, and there is your foreshadowing of perhaps a string tie to any future negotiations with Zelensky, and that would be, Hey, dude, you've got to have an election, because we want to know whether we're dealing with the person who really does have the support of the Ukrainian people as opposed to just some guy who is a dictator canceling elections and propping himself up, which must have given Zelenski a great deal of confidence in first of all showing up his
pajamas for this meeting and secondly rolling his eyes, folding his arms in the closed post and talking back and even talking down to President Trump and Vice President Jade Evans. And I'm wondering whether or not if Zelenski were truly accountable to his people, which he is not because he has made it that way because he doesn't have elections. And you wonder whether or not a person who would have to face his country faces people, faces vote would
behave in a manner like that. He's behaving like he's got the job for life, and that is a huge mistake. And I think Lindsey Graham in that particular SoundBite right there as he appeared on Fox News, is foreshadowing perhaps what I would believe would be a wise move on the part of the Trump administration is to say, hey, here's the deal. Hold elections in two weeks, and then we'll talk to you after you've won, or we'll talk to the person who beats you. But right now, we're
not talking to you. We don't believe that you have the sanity to really follow through on what we're following through on, and we don't want to sign a deal with you. Dude, you're too unstable. And that's where Lindsay Graham also pointed out, you look at Zelenski. Anybody who's watching that television set is thinking, or the Internet where
you're watching it is thinking to your stuff. I would never want to go into business with this guy, especially a guy who is coming to you and you're guaranteeing him security and a great deal and perhaps even more longevity in office because there were no strings attached to that mineral deal like for instance, holding elections or opening up your media or doing whatever. There were no strings
attached to that deal. So how Zelenski could have basically just tank this thing on his own is absolutely beyond me. And the only thing I could think of is that he just has this hubris there. He's gonna be there the whole time he screws this up. And now I think the only way to actually retrain him and bring him to heal is to force him to have elections before there are any future talks of peace and any future talks of security for Ukraine, because we're offering a lot.
Oh and and and then you have back to the pajamas. You have the situation where yeah, he arrives in his Granimals outfit. He's all dressed up today. I mean, you know, it's great. This is this is how the day began for a Zelenski and President Trump of course doing his alpha male bit with But you know again, dude, you don't have a sports jacket or something like a or a tie or something you could wear to a meeting that could save your country and save your people and
also keep you in office and benefit you greatly. You just can't wear a suit for that, you got to show up in your pjs. I my reference to grannimals is probably a little outdated. Those were like from the from the seventies, you know, matching pants and shirts and so you didn't have to sit there and and just fret or for what shirt am I going to wear with these pants? It was always set up for you as an eight year old. So he was that anyway,
back to the formulation of dressing. So this reporter, I know, the guy, Brian Glenn, he's a he's a real hoot. He decides he's going to one of the questions he's going to ask Selenski in the aftermath of this disaster, and he's going to ask Selenski why he didn't wear My second question.
For president, do you ever, why don't you wear a suit? Why don't you wear a suit? You're the highest level in this country is all for this, and you refuse to wear a suit. I just want to see if you do you own a suit. A lot of America have problems with you. I don't.
I will wear cost him after this war will finish.
Yeah, wear a costume when this war is finished. So he said maybe I'll wear a suit like yours. But you have to imagine at this point Brian Glenn or any other reporters, along with the rest of the world, lost so much respect for Zelenski. Had this actual meeting went well, there wouldn't be talk at all about the fact that Zelensky didn't bother to wear a suit to
this meeting. But after that disaster, after what happened, after Zelensky just lit his hair on fire in front of the world, people just started jumping off like crazy, including of course Lindsey Graham, who doesn't want to be associated necessarily with a guy like Zelensky who clearly is unstable and incapable of running Ukraine or at least protecting his people. This is an amazing situation. That's why jd Vance was there.
Jd Vance was prominent in this situation because jd Vance wanted to make sure and President Trump did too, that if Zelensky has any kind of desire or eye on maybe waiting Trump out, I could do this for four more years. I'll get some money from these people, get some money from those people, I won't hold elections, and then I'll just deal with the new guy. Well, there will be no new guy. There might be a new name, but it won't be a new guy because Jade Vance
is just like President Trump. And I think that was the message of today, to make sure that Zelensky knows you are looking twelve years into the future and you're gonna have us and making America great again and nobody else. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman happy to be with you. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Alman here is super happy to be filling in for the great Jesse Kelly. And so this takes me back a little bit and might take you back a little bit.
Somebody who's kind of old must have been responsible for putting out a post on x where they decided to make a little fun of the whole Epstein file release and the efforts to kind of tease people and say, the Epstein files are going to be released. It's going to be soon. Don't worry. It's gonna be a ton of stuff. And I'll give you an example of what rick rolling is if you if you don't know about
it already, it's actually kind of fun to do. And if if it's like, for instance, I'm doing this, hey, folks. I don't know whether you heard President Trump, but he decided he was going to basically say this about Zelensky. I rickrolled you. Haha. See how funny that is. Anyway, it some people like it. You got to be there. So anyway, somebody from the House Judiciary gop x account decided they were going to put out a funny ha haa little tweet or x whatever you want to call it,
hashtag breaking Epstein files released. And then they have a little like a little website, you know, a little link that you push and so you push on they show the link, and then you push on the link, and then suddenly there he is. Ah, you've been rickrolled. And apparently I have to tell you, the person who has been most assertive and aggressive about the whole Epstein file release, they did wind up releasing stuff. None of it is new,
There's nothing there. There might be a possibility that the New York guys, as Pam Bondi has indicated, were somehow stone walling or hiding something or doing whatever. There might have been a little bit of that going on, but right now it's kind of much to do about nothing. It's kind of like the Heraldo very Capone vault thing, and obviously this is serious because Epstein was a seriously
terrible guy. So Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna decided to put this out in response to the little joky joke there with the rick rolling. The amount of people hurt by Epstein is not a joke. Whoever posted this is going to get fired. Disgusting behavior now again. You know, I certainly believe that a lot of people were hurt by Epstein and that it's really nothing to joke about. But what is something to laugh about it? And we could still have a sense of humor about stuff? I mean,
how many of you? Although I don't know I would. I didn't think there was going to be anything really consequential coming out of it. I hope, I hope the JFK files and the RFK files and the MLK files and the nine to eleven files are a lot more interesting in terms of revealing it for we could use
and definitely something that we need. But the whole thing about just this build up to the Epstein files, And frankly I care more about the JFK files and I do the Epstein files, but still just for the sake. But there was certainly nothing going on here, and they kept on teasing it and saying this was gonna happen, that was gonna happen. They kept on acting as if it was going to be some bombshell and we were
gonna have the names. In fact, some people even I don't know whether I do this or not, but some people even had, for instance, pictures of Bill Clinton getting a shoulder rub or something by somebody an thinking, nah, you better hope his name is prominently on that list, because I don't know about that whole thing, but there was such a build up to it. It was so prominent that then something happens and there's nothing there now.
Whether or not that ought to be put out by the you know, the House Judiciary site is another story and certainly something that can be debated in one way, shape or form, but in the end, I'm not quite sure it's really all that much. So anyway, hey Zelenski appearing for the first time on camera speaking since the time that he was on camera speaking where he basically ruined any chance this country would have for peace and certainly lit his hair on fire with a decidedly disrespectful
performance there in the Oval office. So he appears with Brett Baer and this is how do you think you did and do you think you owe an apology to President Trump? Thanks so much.
First of all, thank you for invitation for this dollar.
And don't waste your time, Brett. I'm not going to answer the question. I'm just going to actually have a do over here. We're going to talk about having some much gratitude and being so thankful even though those words could not come out of my mouth when I was sitting with the President and the Vice President of the United States and sitting in front of an American audience. But I'll say it now. I won't. I just want to answer your.
Question, your concerts to all Americans, and very thankful to Americans for all your support.
You did a lot.
I'm thankful to President Trump and to Congress by partisan support. And I was always very thankful from all our people.
This is kind of like when the kid is sent to his room, you know, after doing something dastardly or getting into a fight with mom or dad and saying something really bad whatever, and you go up to your room and think about what you did. And that's kind of what happened. I don't know what rooms Lensky might have been in. I think there were some people. I mean he saw the reaction he saw, for instance, Lindsey Graham, his biggest patron, who jumped ship as fast as he
possibly could. He saw those reactions. I don't know whether he got some reaction from the American Ukrainian people, but I will tell you that his ambassador had her face in her hands while he was mouthing off. And so he comes back from his rome after being sent there and is full of the things that he should have said it to me.
What does a support And I was always very thankful from all our people. You helped us a lot from the very beginning, during three years of full escape innovationion, you helped us to survive. And anyway, we are strategic partners, and even in such top dialogue, and I think it's we have to be very honest.
So this is going to go on for another minute and forty seconds, and he's not going to say he's going to apologize, because he's just that arrogant. But we'll see. As the cookies are crumbling everywhere surrounding Ukraine, I'll have more on that for you. This is the Jesse Kelly show. I am Jamie Alman, happy to be filling in. Welcome
to the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Almon here really happy to be filling in for the great Jesse Kelly and President Trump in his first actual visual statement after this dust up in the Oval office with Zelensky, shocking as it certainly was, Lensky obviously believing a lot of his own press and not really understanding how to read a room, and certainly not understanding how to read a country, whether
it be reading his country or ours. Present, Trump, going out on the driveway with his gigantic make America Great Again, had on responding to questions about today and about what's next. Look, I don't trust for anybody. I just want to get a deal done. And if the deal happens, good. But you can't.
Embolden somebody that does not have the cards.
And all of a sudden that person says, oh, well, now I can keep fighting. I guess we're not gonna keep fighting.
You're gonna get the war done, or let them go and see what happens.
Let them fight it out, stop down, let it go.
I want anybody that's going to make peace, if he's capable of making peace, which he may or.
May not be, but I want somebody that's gonna make peace again.
He doesn't have the cards when we.
Sign up, he's got all of the cards.
That doesn't mean.
He can fight.
He's got to stop the fighting, stop the death.
He's losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers. It's time to stop the death.
House Well, he says he wants it now.
He wants to come back right now. But I can't do that. That's actually news there that that actually Zelensky wants to come back and and just redo whatever they were doing and just come back and let's get it done. And you know, Zelensky really made such a an amateur rookie overconfident mistake. It just it's just shocking to me that as much as Lensky has been in contact with publicly elected officials and people that he doesn't he's not more refined, and I don't bean refined in the snooty
kind of way that he does that. He's not more just capable of being real and clearly by his demeanor at this particular meeting where he had his arms folded in front of him, he was howling his eyes, he was smirking, he was interrupting. He was looking at the at the news media half the time to see if like like he was playing some kind of game, like it was him and the news media against Donald Trump
and JD. Vance. I don't know what this guy was thinking, Like, dude, you cannot be this immature and really unfortunately what Zelenski look like in this this particular configuration. I'm sure the fact that he didn't wear a coat and tie didn't help matters at all, because he shows up in his pajamas and then wants to run roughshod over the United States of America and President Trump and JD. Vance, who by the way, have a mandate. They won by a landslide.
So I don't know what Zelenski's thinking. He is he hating to the Democrats still or the news media that nobody listens to or worries about anymore. It's impossible to believe the guy could possibly come in and be this petulant and rude and full of himself, greedy, lacking any kind of gratitude. I mean, normally, okay, let's put it this way. You might not like certain political leaders, or you might like to do this this kind of thing, but there's nothing likable about Zelensky in any way, shape
or form. There's zero to like about the guy. I mean, normally, if you and me had someone in our life like that, they wouldn't be around for long in terms of being in our life, right, I mean, how many people could you? And especially since we are kind of like the caretakers of Ukraine thanks to the billions of dollars we sent
over there. So again, President Trump's like, I can't let this guy just decide, oh well, let's come back for a late because because at that point, Zelenski becomes the hero at that point, because he's coming back and he's doing this kind of thing. He's not humbling himself. I just played for you the bit of the interview with Brett Behar where Brett Behar said you gonna apologize. He had no indication whatsoever he was in any way apologetic.
He just kind of wanted to redo this whole idea that you know, he's actually was very grateful and all this kind of stuff. And President Trump's like, I'm not I'm not having this guy's not controlling the show here. I'm not gonna let him decide when we're gonna meet again, or uh, when he's decided that he's you know, all better now that he's gonna come back to the White House and sign this agreement, he's you know, And this is President Trump. It's so classic in terms of business
deals and being able to walk away from the business deal. Now, keep in mind, Zelensky didn't walk away from this meeting. He was kicked out of the White House. That was made abundantly clear by multiple sources and people inside the Trump administration. So President Trump kicked him out. But this is classic President Trump in terms of I'm not I'm gonna I haven't done deals like this my whole life. Just to have somebody try to run the show. I'm
running the show. I'll decide when we're gonna meet again. And you know what, it could be down in Marilango, who knows. I mean, there are surprises here, basically from what President Trump is saying. I don't believe there's an indication that he's never gonna talk to Zelenzi again. So we've got to figure out what conditions will be attached
to further discussions. As I mentioned earlier, I do believe that if President Trump really wants to be on fire, here, he would order Lensky to hold elections in two weeks uh, to determine whether or not, uh Zelenski really is the deserved leader of Ukraine. Because if I'm President Trump at this point, I want to deal with the guy who is supported and respected in Ukraine, not the one who is declaring martial law, so no one has to hold him to account. So President Trump could get pretty tough
on this. He could, he could if and and plus if I'm him, I'm doing this because at that point, the world is watching to see what Zelenzi's gonna do. There's a chance that Zelenski could fly down to Marilago.
He's apparently still in DC. Has it left for home yet. Uh, there's a chance he could pop down there and they can figure out something out and they can have a really nice weekend and you know, kind of after that little blow up, I'm not quite sure Zelenski is very deserving of it, but I do believe that for the good of the Ukrainian people, maybe that's something person Trump's gonna say, Hey, listen, I didn't want to deal with this guy, I really don't, but it is what it is.
We want peace. That's how it's gonna.
Work if they should have an immediate ceasefire. That was the other thing he didn't want to do about ceasefire. A ceasefire could take place immediately a contract.
If you want to.
End the war, you sign up for the agreement. That's gonna take a period of time. It takes time.
I want it to end immediately, and I think if you had a ceasefire, it would be a ceasefire, real one that would end it.
But he doesn't want.
To do that.
That's fine, yeah, I mean, seriously, it's not just his petulance in its arrogance. He doesn't he doesn't even want to cease fire. And you're thinking, well, why why not? I thought, I thought, But maybe actually a cease fire would force him to hold elections and to open up the media and to do things that otherwise I think war has been good for him for which is of course, keeping him in power and keeping him rich.
I wanted to end immediately. I want to cease fire. Now he says, oh, I don't.
Want to see fire. Well, all of a sudden, he's a big shot because he is the.
US or the side.
Either we gonna end it or let him fight it. Out and yeah, and there's more and this is this is good because that's what he's trying to explain to Zelensky in the meeting. It's like, you don't have the cards. So if you if you don't want to cease fire, I mean, you can't sit there and hide behind us. That's not how it works, dude. And so we'll have more on that. Plus President Trump's tariff threats look like they're paying off. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm
Jamie Almond filling in. Hey, this is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman here with you. And you know war, what is it good for? Well, it looks like it is good for Zelensky. He seems to be the only one who isn't suffering as a result of this war in Ukraine. He's fine, He's got all the money he needs, can fly around the world. He featured on the cover of Vanity Fair and People magazine for a while there. He was all the left, little plush toy. They loved him,
a little cutie guy. You get kind of like doctor Fauci. You know, they just make a puppet out of him. Give it away for Christmas or put it on a magnet on your refrigerator. And yeah, they they they love them some Zelensky And of course he billions of dollars sent his way. And when he's to ask like, hey, where's the money, I don't know, I don't know where half of it is. Like, oh, okay, that's not a good thing. Yeah, what about elections? We're not having him?
Why because we're in a war, so I have to have martial law, you know? Oh okay, what about what about like more independent media don't want that either. We're in martial law and I'm never going away and I'm closing down media outlets that are critical of me. And so I mean, so, in what way? Really, in the end, has Zelenski had to suffer at all? Normally what happens is in a situation like this, there's a strong possibility that the suffering comes in the form of a defeat
in an election. But when you're not having elections or anything like that, then why why would you worry? When you're Every time you come to the United States, every media outlet wants to interview you and feature you. And you don't even have to wear a coat and tie wherever you go. You can just dress in your pajamas and people will slobber all over you. So I guess the question has to be, like, how has Zelenski in any way, shape or form suffered in any way, shape
or form. And then you're getting to the frustration to President Trump, who at this point is trying to figure out why am I dealing with this guy who doesn't seem to have the need for anything, like, like, we're willing to help him and sign this deal for him. It's gonna provide security for the country of Ukraine and stop the blood letting and everything else, and we're even gonna have like a business deal. And Zelenski doesn't want
to cease fire. At that point, President Trump's like, why am I bothering?
That was the other thing he didn't want to do about ceasefire. A cease fire could take plants immediately. A contract if you want to end the war and you sign up an agreement.
That's gonna take a period of time.
It takes time.
I want it to end immediately, and I think if you had to cease fire, it would be a ceasefire.
Real one that would end it. But he doesn't want to do that. That's fine, you would better. Yeah, I mean, how is how is it possible that Zelensky doesn't want to cease fire? And do the people who support him, all the left wing crazies and people like they they do they do? They know that? Uh? And obviously they ignore the fact that he has declared martial law, closed Christian churches down, imprisoned people in Christian ministries, and close down the news media there is that Does that matter
to anybody? Does that matter to all the Oh yeah, those guys. The threat to democracy people, the President Trump's a threat to democracy. Well, it looks to me like Zelensky's uh, not far behind in the in the threat category. But nobody seems to be paying attention. In fact, the news media, as a result of what happened today, of course, they immediately blame President Trump, and they immediately celebrate this and celebrate Zelenski, you know, because he's talking back to
the king and all this kind of stuff. I'm thinking, Man, Zelensky, what you need to stop reading the Washington Post and the New York Times and your own press releases. You need to know what happened in the twenty twenty four election. You need to figure this out because you're not reading a room, dude, not reading a room. And of course Trump is wanting him to just put something down.
I want it to end immediately. I want to ceasefire. Now he says, oh, I don't want to cease fire so long of a sudden.
He's a big shot because he is the US from the side.
Either we're going to end it or let him fight it out. And if he fights it out, it's.
Not going to be pretty because without it, without us, he doesn't win, remember that way.
And here's the cynical thing about Zelensky's behavior and not wanting a ceasefire, and that is that Zelensky believes that the left wing theory and the news media's theory Russia bad Russia, bad Russia, bad Russia bad. Zelenski good, see good, Lenzy's Goodny's good. That he thinks he's gonna take that to a guy like President Trump and say, well, you're on my side. Everybody else believes Putin stinks, and so uh,
we don't want to cease fire. And and that's why President Trump's like, this guy's acting like some kind of big shot. Any Way, President Trump only likes one big shot, and that's President Trump. But if you're in a room with President Trump, do not try to be Do not try to be a big shot. It doesn't matter what I'm considering. I'm just telling you you saw what I saw today. That was not a man that wanted to make me. And I'm polly interested if he wants to.
And the bloodshed, yeah, I mean, you know, so, man, man who doesn't want peace, and and that's not a surprise at all. Why would you want peace when war is leaving you an unaccountable dictator and a rich one too, where even your friends are rich, and you don't have any media that is critical of you, and you don't
have an election. So you know, now we're finding out really what the truth is about Zelenski and about what he's been wanting, and about his true dedication to helping his country and his and his true dedication to wanting some level of peace, because he clearly had it in the palm of his hand today and putin those guys
were more than happy. It's like, yeah, give them, I don't know, take the minimum, minimal, mineral rights, we don't care, just take them whatever, and then then then I'll have a better relationship with Trump, and that'll work out better and we won't have maybe as many sanctions and do whatever. And so at this point he had it all in
the bag and he totally blew it. And if I am Zelenski, I am being thankful for President Trump conducting a masterclass in true leadership and ethics and decency, that is for sure. This is the Jesse, Kelly Sell, Jamie Allman here, Pleased and privileged to be with you.