It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, fantastic Friday. We're gonna talk about Trump and the judges and what do we do if he actually starts ignoring them. Someone asks a question about Lankford public Lands. We are all someone doesn't want me to give up on the debt stuff, selling RV's. We're all over the place in our final hour of The Jesse Kelly Show. And your final reminder is right now. I'm not gonna do this again. On Monday, we are
doing a Memorial Day show. We are doing it live. There are no ads on Monday. There won't be any politics on Monday. There won't be any goofing off on Monday. It will be all war stories and history and honoring the fallen. And if you have a name of somebody who gave their life for this country, name, rank, and conflict, you can email it in now Jesse at Jesse kellyshow
dot com. I'm not making a promise because I don't want to ever violate that promise, but I will try once again to read every one of them on the air as some very very tiny way to honor their sacrifice for this country and to pay respect for the families they left behind. All Right, all right, hey, Jesse, I agree Trump must ignore these judges and do what the American people voted for him to do. However, if he does, can you imagine the blood bath he will
take from Democrats in the mainstream media. Okay, let's talk about this, this general mentality, because it's an understandable concern. What if Trump was to just say, but I don't care about your ruling Supreme Court, whatever court it is. No, you don't have an army I do. I'm not doing that. I'm going to continue to do what the American people elected me to do. And you think the Democrats in the mainstream media will savage him, well, you're correct, they
will savage him. However, these are the tools of the communists, the American media. They're on the communists side. If they're not savaging you, you are on their side. They consider you to be not a threat or flat out on their team. They should be losing their minds about you at all times. It's like when I get I get emails from people but about you know, communists hate you are you are you are? Doesn't it bother you that all these communists hate you. You don't understand. I want
communists to hate me. I love when communists email in and tell me how much they hate me. It's because that confirms that I'm against them and the things I say bother them. Like when Rush Limbaugh died, We lost our great goat, We lost USh Limbaugh. And how many communists did you see and hear celebrating? Ah, it's so great, always said. It was all over the place, and a lot of people on the right got bothered by that. Hey I don't like it. Hey that's so terrible. Hey
that's it. And I tried to explain, I bet you Rush loved it. I want I want them throwing a parade when I finally die, whenever that is. Don't when I die and the Communists start dancing on my grave, don't get sad, don't get angry about it. Smile. That's what I want. I want them. I want these evil people to hate me badly enough that they will cheer when I'm gone. That's one of my goals in life, is that they will cheer when I'm gone. That's what I want. I'll be in heaven smiling, so you do
the same. We cannot when it comes to judges, when it comes to anything, we can never ever ever base what we do on how they might react, on how angry they might get. It doesn't work in that way. And one of the main reasons it doesn't work in that way is outrage, A whipped up outrage, insane outrage is one of their main tools. They use it all the time. It's why they are always taking to the streets. It's why they have so many different paid protester and
paid protester groups. Because noise and chaos and the appearance of anger has always been a tool in the belt of the revolutionary That's why they do it. Look, I believe I've talked earlier about the Uvaldi School shooting and how the Republicans caved and why they went along with it. They went along with it in part because of so much noise created by the left. They felt pressured to joe going in and do something. It's why everybody caved after Saint George Floyd died, from Trump to Tim Scott
to everybody else. We'll have a police round table in federal Why there was so much noise nationally this I write that contrary, and there was so much noise created by the left that it causes people to want to do something. It's human nature to want to react to that, to want to respond to that. A toddler, Chris has one right now. Chris is going through it. He's got the tantrum phase, enjoying that, Chris. Why do they do that?
Because it's effective, It's an effective way it can be I should say it can be effective if you let it get to you. You want to respond to make it stop. Have you ever seen the toddler in the grocery store laying on the floor causing a scene. Ah, you won't let me get my rice crispies. Ah. Have you ever seen the mom cave? Okay, just have some rice crispys. She just wants the noise to stop. By the way, don't cave. Don't. Don't you ever cave. Tell that kid if they don't get up, you're gonna give
him a reason to so anyway. But that's how communists operate in the exact same way. Create enough noise to get you to give them something to get what they want. I've used the example before. I have you ever been in a restaurant somewhere and some dudes with his girl with wife, girlfriend, whatever it is, and she starts getting loud because she's mad at him, and she starts getting louder and louder, and now everyone's looking. Everyone's looking, you dag,
gone right. She knows what she's doing, Chris, that's why she's doing it. And what's he start doing? No, baby, calm down, Oh baby, I'm sorry. No, but he knows everyone's looking, and she's doing it because everyone's looking. That's how communists operate in this country. All right, Jesse, Being from Montana, I'm sure you understand the hot topic of
public land. I'm from Utah. It seems every single elected official here is bound and determined to get public land turned over to state ownership, and the loudest voice being Mike Lee. They claim it's to create more homes and make make it more affordable to own a home. I tend to like what Lee has to say, but I'm very much opposed to this idea. The sale of portions of public land isn't unheard of, but it seems like
it's always an LLC who purchases it. It ends up fencing it off in Utah ands lose access for hunting, fishing, and other recreation. What are your thoughts about public land. Well, first, the federal government owns too much land, let's be clear about that right off the bat. But the federal government, which is supposed to be limited, is the largest landowner in the country. Is insane. That is crazy. If you told the founding fathers that they would lose their freaking minds.
There was never supposed to be like that at all. However, if you allow these people to, if you allow them to sell off every beautiful piece of ground in this country that is used for hiking and hunting and fishing and whatnot, they will throw up dog crap apartment complexes all over every square inch of this country. And you wake up one day and you can't take your kid fishing up at Flathead Lake in Montana anymore because there's apartments surrounding the whole daggone thing. We went to h
Lake Conroe when my dad was still alive. He came down, grabbed me and the boys, and we went up to Lake Conroe fishing. And I'd never been on Lake Conrad before. It's a lake in Texas, by the way. I went up on Lake Conroe, and I'm used to Montana Lakes. Montana lakes oftentimes are extremely remote and there's nobody on them. I was mortified by Lake Conro. Why there's not a square inch of shoreline that hasn't been sold off and developed, not a single square inch. My dad and I marveled
at it because we were used to Montana. We marveled at it, and we actually said, these people just they just let these people build up every single square inch of lakefront. So the lake it's not like you're on the lake. It's like you're in a subdivision, driving a boat through a subdivision. That's exactly what it's like. I hate that there is a place for lakefront property. That shoot, I'd love to have one. There's a place for lakefront property.
So I'm not against it in general, but if you allow that stuff to go completely out of control, you will destroy every single beautiful thing out there, and that can't be allowed. Cannot be allowed. So that's where I stand on that. That makes sense. All right, somebody somebody needs some Langford help, but somebody first wants RV advice. All right, we will get to RV advice help with James Langford and we'll talk about the debt a little
bit more. Next, it is the Jesse Kelly Show, A wonderful Jesse Kelly Show, because it's a wonderful Friday, heading into a long weekend where I hope, I hope you will enjoy family and friends and food. And I want to remind you that the guys who gave their life for this country would want you to know that's not what the weekend is about. But they would want you to have a beer and a hot dog and talk
to your mother. That's what they would want, Okay, So go enjoy your weekend and we will honor the fallen on a Monday a mighty oracle. Since you come from a background of selling RVs, what are your top three manufacturers or brands other than Airstream of affordable lightweight bumper toe RV trailers for a Nester couple to purchase Tobo with a half ton with a V eight says his name is Guz. All right, Guz, let me explain something to you, Okay, and I'm just gonna give this to
you right between the eyes. All right. Laws of physics haven't changed. Okay, you want a lightweight, affordable toe behind RV that is quality. There's no such thing. Let me explain. I'm not telling you not to buy it. I'm not. You need to adjust your expectations. If you are going to create an RV of any kind, whether it's a big fifth wheel or a toe behind or whatever it is, it has to be tollable by a vehicle, whether it's a halftime like you have, or even a big diesel. Therefore,
you are limited by weight. You are limited by weight, so to make the RV, they have to make it with light weight material. Lightweight material is dog crap. Okay, I'd ever tell you. I held a forty thousand dollars watch one time. No, I don't own it. I've never owned something like this. But one of my buddies his dad had died and left him a Cartier watch. I don't know about Cartier, but obviously it's expensive, and he showed me online it was worth forty thousand dollars and
I said, can I have it? And I hold it and I'm never gonna have one something like that. He said, yeah. The first thing that struck me was the weight of it. It was freaking heavy. Because of the quality, the amount of metal, the things they put in it. RV's were exactly the same way. If you want something super light that you can tow behind a half ton, you are going to buy something that will break and have problems. They only make two kinds of RVs, no matter how
much you're spending, they only make two kinds. Ones that have had problems and ones that will have problems. And don't think that I'm just telling you this now. I told that exact same thing to everyone I ever sold in RV to. I want to make sure your expectations are managed. When you get to wherever you're going, you're going to turn on the faucet and it's going to leak. Sometimes, your air conditioning is going to break. You're going to have leaky windows, You're going to have roof problems at
some point in time. I'm not trying to talk you out of it. They're a blast and people who get into it love it. But if you think you're buying a miniature home that's just kind of a hotel room on wheels that you can tow around, you are unbelievably mistaken. And when they break, it's not like a car where you you snap a belt. You gotta go drop it off, maybe three four hours, maybe even a day. You're picking it up again. No, no, no, no no. When you take it into the dealership to drop it off, the
dealership is going to have to reach out. It's a warranty item. They're gonna have to go to the manufacturer. They're gonna have to grab the parts. I've seen RVs sit in an RV lot for six months waiting to get fixed. Chris is losing his mind right now.
Now.
That may be an extreme situation. I'm not saying it's always six months. I'm saying there's no such thing as a quality, lightweight bumper pull RV. It does not exist. It cannot exist because otherwise it wouldn't be five thousand pounds, it would be one hundred thousand pounds, and no one will be able to toe the stupid thing. All right, I'm sorry if that burst your bubble. That was not my intention, and I think you and your wife should, as empty nesters, go get an affordable one and go.
But if I may rent one, first, rent won a couple times. Make sure you can tow it comfortably. Some people can't. We call them women, not quit. Make sure you can tow it comfortably, make sure you are you're used to the bed situation, make sure you can get by when something breaks. And as a final point, somebody like Chris should own an RV before somebody like me should. It's not that I can't do basic construction things, because I'd work construction my whole life. But Chris, Jewish producer.
Chris is mechanically inclined, like rebuilding engines and that kind of weird crap. I would rather die than rebuild a car engine. Somebody like Chris, he's going to be able to work on his own RV. The people who are happiest with them are the ones. When the faucet leaks, they don't freak. They go get some teflon tape, pull out the wrenches, screw a couple of things in, and
get the thing fixed up. Now, I'm not saying that has to be you, But if it's not you, if that faucet leaks and you immediately have to take it in, it's gonna be a long, hard road, all right? Does that too much of a Debbie downer? Chris? I didn't mean it. I didn't mean for it to be what what it's about setting expectations That's exactly my point. I don't want you to think you're buying a house on wheels, because you're not. It's made you ever the styrofoam coffee cups,
you know, the styrofoam coffee cups, that's your insulation. You realize that styrofoam in the walls, that's what they are. There ain't no quality one. They all break, but they're still phone. I still love them. Is that Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful Friday, or remember, you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. The subject of this one is giving up on the federal debt problem. Jesse. I'm wondering why you were giving
up on this issue. Last night, I was kind of having a powdy moment and I was frustrated, and I said that nobody wants to cut spending, and I'm just accepted that we're going to spend until the was having a pouty moment, Okay, and that's what this guy's addressing. He said, I'm wondering why you're giving up on this issue. While most people were ignorant about the threat of communism,
you still seek to educate them. When COVID mandates were rampant, you didn't give into tyranny, when racism was welcomed under Biden. You didn't throw up your hands and surrender. Please don't stop speaking the truth about the problems and dangers of uncontrolled and irresponsible federal spending. The uninformed masses need to hear wisdom from the oracle on this issue. And his name is wyat Okay. I was having a pouty moment, and I shouldn't have said it because it's not true anyway.
I'm still going to freak out whenever Republicans spend too much money, and when Democrats spend too much money, it upsets me. I was having a powdy moment. I'm not going to give up on it. Sometimes I get so frustrated with DC that well, let's be honest with you. I've told you this before, so it's not going to come with some earth shattering shock. I'm not sure a brand new listener, do you know that? Do you know that I actually don't enjoy talking politics all the time?
Do you know that? Did you know that if I had my choice, if all else asign, that I would do history like every show. That's all I would do. You realize that I talk about history and food, maybe some sports too. I enjoy sports. I talk politics because it's necessary, because it's important, it's important. It is not my deep burning passion that I enjoy. I have other things that I enjoy more than I enjoyed politics. I feel an obligation to be involved. Are Tree needs us.
You have to stay involved, even when you get burnt out, even when you get frustrated. You can't do what I said I was gonna do and just quit. You can't do it. Get Look, I would love today, I'd love to just make an announcement, you know what. I'm done with the Jesse Kelly Chow. As far as political talk, I'm gonna I'm gonna do a history podcast a couple times a week or so. I would actually love to
do that. I can't. This stuff matters a lot, and federal spending matters a lot, and these people don't care. They just keep blowing out the budget and blowing out the budget and blowing out the budget. Republicans do it, and then Democrats do it, and then Republicans do it, and Democrats do it, and that Moody you heard that Moody's downgraded our credit rating. Right, I'm not gonna act like that's the end of the world, but that is a huge indicator, a huge indicator that the world is
getting alarmed with our debt. In this new budget that they're trying to ram through, it adds twenty trillion dollars to the debt. Over over enough time, our debt goes from thirty six I think to fifty seven something crazy, something bonkers. And this is under Republican leadership. I've messy talked about it.
We I'd love to stand here and tell the American people we can cut your taxes and we can increase spending and everything's going to be just fine. But I can't do that because I'm here to deliver a dose of reality. This bill dramatically increases deficits in the near term, but promises our government will be fiscally responsible five years from now. Where have we heard that before? How do you bind a future Congress to these promises? This bill is a debt bomb ticking. Congress can do funny math,
fantasy math if it wants, but bond investors don't. And this week they sent us a message. Moodies downgraded our credit rating, and the bond investors who buy our debt and finance our debt demanded higher interest rates on the ten year note, the twenty year note, and the thirty year note. What does this mean? Very soon the government will be paying sixteen thousand dollars of interest interest a loan per us family.
And what are we telling them?
Instead of taking care of that problem, We're gonna give you a sixteen hundred dollars tax break. Under the taxing and spending levels in this bill, we're going to rack up the author say twenty trillion dollars of new debt over the next ten years. I'm telling you it's closer to thirty trillion dollars of new debt in the next ten years.
That's staggering. And the bond investor part of that is frightening. They're jacking up our interest rates because they don't think we're a reliable investment anymore. I just talked about selling RVs. That's how it works. You realize that you walk in to buy an RV, you want to have a great, great interest rate on whatever loan. It's going to depend
on your credit score and your credit history. You walk in to buy an RV from me with a seven to fifty credit score, I'm going to be able to shop you around in the banks will actually compete to get your loan because you are so reliable. They will compete and give you a great interest rate. You walk in with a five to fifty credit score, I'll get someone to buy it, maybe if you're lucky, maybe a bank or two, and you're going to pay seventeen percent and you're gonna like it, or you're not going to
have an RV. That's how life works, not just buying RVs with countries. Our debt bond investors buy it historically, that's how we've piled up so much of it. They buy it because we've been a reliable, a reliable investment. Yeah. Absolutely, essentially loaning, let's loan America some more money. They always pay it back. And these are not Republicans, they're not Democrats. They're just finance guys. They just look at numbers. As
we speak now before there's a new bill. As we speak right now, they're looking at us and they're saying, hmm, I don't know about this credit score. There are some things on there that are red flags. We're gonna have to charge you more. I had a guy one time, I remember it. He used to have a great credit score, and he walked into the RV to dealership to buy an RV from me, and he was very, very angry that his interest rate was really high. And we pulled
a credit report. When we pull a credit report, it's not just what you get, which is a score. We have your entire credit history. It's amazing how detailed it is. All that is available with your Social Security number. Did you know that I can see everything you've ever every line of credit you've ever taken out, bankruptcies, medical bills, It's all on there. Your entire history is on there. And I said, do you want to know? You why you have a high interest rate? Because you still owe
two hundred dollars to Verizon. They've referred you to collections. And you know what this moron told me. They screwed me over and I told him I wasn't gonna pay it. And I didn't pay it, and I said, wow, you really showed them. Now you can't have an RV. Boy, You really got them there. That's how it works, Jesse. Unless you do your radio program most every night. Last night.
You hit the nail on the head once again with the comment about the only way to bring business back to the US is to get rid of the EPA. Look like I said, we can manipulate this and massage this and twist this around and put this fine on these guys, and we're going to find the EU and we're gonna do That's fine, whatever, that's fine. But we will not bring back American manufacturing and a lasting, significant way that changes and improves the lives of Americans until
the business environment of this country gets better. And we will not have a better business environment in this country until Democrats stop being prosperity hating savages. That's the truth we have. We regulate and tax and fine and regulate and tax and fine and permit, and it is and it's a nightmare to do anything in this country, a nightmare to do anything. Now, years and years and years of new laws and new rules and new laws and new rules has made it impossible to do business, and
businesses went elsewhere. That is the real root of the problem here. It is The Jesse Kelly Show, final segment of a jetse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Friday, Before we go into a Memorial Day weekend. Give missed any part of the show, you can download at iHeart, Spotify iTunes. If you don't listen live on Monday for our Memorial Day special, download that the next day. I think you'll
probably enjoy it. We try. It could be heavy, right, we're talking about people who gave their lives for the country, but we really we do the best we can. I'm sure I fall short. How do you want to somebody who gave their life for the country. There's no way. But we try the best we can to honor those who gave their lives and to respect their families that are left behind, for sure, because that's something that has
always meant the world to me. So we have the opportunity now, because this stupid show got so big, we have the opportunity now to do that nationwide. So we will attempt to do that on Monday as best we can. Hey, Jesse, I turn on a Christian podcast this week and heard an interview with Senator Lankfort about his new book Turnaround, dealing with revival in America. All kinds of bells and
whistles went off in my mind having listened to your show. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to retain the information about reasons of your negative view of a man. Can you give me a brief review lesson? Her name is Karen Well. I already talked about him earlier, so I think I probably cleared that up for you. But that's how James Langford and many like him get elected. These people use shields that they know appeal to us. They all do it.
Trump is a very common one. Now. John Cornyn has already begun his look how trumpy I am campaign here in Texas. He knows he's in trouble in that primary, so he is sucking up the Trump I have already. We already talked about this. He has leadership like John Thune working on Trump already trying to get Trump to endorse him. Now, why is John Corny wants to be re elected and Trump is popular, so he's trying to draft off of that. They do it with immigration all
the time. When it's election season and you're a Republican, you stand up and talk about how many illegals you're going to deport, and then the second you get re elected, you go work with Democrats trying to pass amnesty. That's
exactly what James Langford did. In Bible Belt places like Oklahoma, where church attendance is through the roof, you can win a lot of elections being the Christian guy running for Senate, and they will excuse or ignore the fact that you go back to Washington, d C. And screw them over all the time because you were in church with them on Sunday. James Langford tried to get amnesty passed with Joe Biden during the last year of Joe Biden's presidency.
He vocally, loudly tried to get amnesty passed while these savages were importing twenty million people. James Langford tried to help them import more. But he gets elected in Oklahoma with the whole look how Christian I am thing, that's my pastor. I love Jesus, don't you love Jesus. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. Let's go to church. I love Jesus. I love amnesty for a bunch of barbarians, but I also love Jesus. Very very effective, Jesse. With your prediction of social media
ending on American communism, I would agree with you. With the exception of artificial intelligence. Do you think AI can reverse the gains you speak of, Well, right now, there is a huge, huge global war going on with AI, artificial intelligence, and so much of this goes above my head because I don't do technology, as you know, but I know what AI is, so do you. And the global war is countries are competing and companies are competing
to control it and create the superior AI. And look, I don't want to freak you out, so I don't want to freak myself out. And I don't know what the future is going to bring, but you can look at this and you can see so many ugly things that will come from it, including job loss, unbelievable amounts of job loss of companies that are just going to AI everything. I ordered Taco Bell, not to brag, but I got the extra creamy jalapeno sauce on it. I
ordered Taco Bell yesterday, swung through the drive through. I just wanted to check in caesadilla. I was out. The person taking the order was not a person, It was AI. Now. I drove up to the window and there was still someone in there. But that's someone else's job gone. And I realized, maybe you're scoffing at that. It's Taco Bell. Someone doesn't have a paycheck anymore, and that's Taco Bell. I've told you about my buddy who he still sells RVs.
That's what he does. The advancements he sees in AI. He has AI salesman and saleswomen. You get online and you want to chat with somebody, you're chatting with AI. It is. It's a global war going on for control of it. And remember what the Biden administration did. A lot of people forget this. The Biden h Chris if you can grab it. I think it was Scott Piscent. What was his name? Maybe not Scott, but no, it
wasn't percent. It wasn't percent Mar somebody the guy who said the Obama or the Biden administration brought him in. Mark Dreesen maybe is his name, The billionaire guy who said Biden brought him in and they had a plan to control completely artificial intelligence and they were going to do it. Of course, Oh you have it, go ahead, play it.
The meetings were absolutely horrifying, and we came out basically deciding we had to endorse Trump.
What did you hear in those meetings?
AI is a technology basically that the government is going to completely control. This is not going to be a startup thing. They actually said flat out to us, don't start, don't do AI startups, like, don't don't fund AI startups. It's not something that we're going to allow to happen. They're not going to be allowed to exist. There's no point.
They basically said, AI is going to be a game of two or three big companies working closely with the government, and we're going to basically wrap them in a you know, I'm paraphrasing, but we're going to basically wrap them in a government cocoon. We're going to protect them from competition, we're going to control them, and we're going to dictate what they do. And then I said, well, I said, I don't understand how you're going to lock this down so much, because like the math for you know, AI
is like out there and it's being taught everywhere. And you know, they literally said, well, you know, during the Cold War, we classified entire areas of physics and took them out of the research community, and and and and and like entire branches of physics basically went dark and didn't proceed. And that if we, if we decide we need to we're going to do the same thing to the math underneath.
AI.
Wow, And I said, I've just learned two very important things, because I wasn't aware of the former, and I wasn't aware that you were, you know, even conceiving of doing it to the latter.
There's a war for it, and then the Communists are fighting it. But I don't know that they're going to win it, right, But there is a war for it, and I don't know where this is all going to go. I guess we'll find out together.
