This is a podcast from WR The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Tuesday. And yes it is me. I am back in the chair. And there is so much to get to before the State of the Union tonight. There's virtually no chance any mortal man would be able to do so, but what chrits. But I will. So we'll talk about this mineral rights deal that apparently Trump is going to announce later on tonight.
In the State of Union, We're gonna do actually do a little bit of history, not the normal stuff that everyone doesn't do, a little bit of history about that part of the world here in just a moment. I think it gives us a good frame of reference for what we're looking out here. We'll talk about tariffs, we'll talk about the systems speaking with one voice, taking payoffs from the mafia, selling off critical things to Blackrock, all that we're pretty fat. Some emails and other things coming
up on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show tonight. Now, first of all, I got all your emails, and they came in bunches and bunches and bunches, and I'm not going to read all of them. I just I really, really appreciate you very much. I got ones like this. Jesse know you're a family man. I'm sorry for the loss of your aunt. I completely understand your absence for the show Friday Monday. I have to believe you're chomping at the bit to talk about the fireworks in the
Oval office and on and so forth. Jesse, I have an idea for putin Ukraine, Jesse, putin Ukraine, China. Okay, So, first of all, thank you so much for your for your kind words about my aunt who passed. I guess I just go ahead and just let you know. As I said last week, it was leukemia. It was Julie. Was her name, Aunt Julie. It was my mom's sister, and honestly she It was a small town in Ohio, Eurexville, Ohio. That's where all the services were. I bet you there
were two thousand people at the viewing. I'm not even kidding. There can't be two thousand people in Eurexville. That's the kind of person. She was just an angel of a person and I had to go be there. Wanted to go pay my respects to her, her family, her mom. Thank you for your prayers. You're will wish is much appreciated. I'm back. Now. Now let's move on from all that and distract ourselves with the news, shall we. So let's
I wanted to approach this a little bit differently. I wasn't here last week to give you my on the air thoughts about the Oval Office blow up, and so I'm not going to do that. Now. That's stale, it's old news. And as I said, in case you are unaware, it's journalist Jesse. There's just no one better. We love Jesse. He's the best. YESSI please kiss my baby, Yessie. Jesse. Jesse, Jesse Jesse. The word is that Trump is going to announced tonight that Zelenski has signed the mineral rights agreement
for Ukraine. Now let's have a chat, shall we, about history and one why this is wonderful, but two why this is not the end, all right, and it's not a downer thing. We're just gonna discuss that particular region in some of the history with it because I think it'll help you, it'll help me, help all of us understand what's going on, and then we'll move on and talk about tariffs. We're not gonna do three hours on Ukraine graph. We're not doing that, but first you know
what the helodomore is. I hope if you do not know what the helodomore is, just know that Ukraine is known as the world's bread basket for a reason. And we'll get to the minerals and energy and things like that. But it's been that way for a long time. It's just and I don't know what it is, one of those areas that's blessed by God or I don't know, looking what they've gone through, maybe cursed by God. They just have a lot. It's huge. It's a much bigger
place than you think. And let me pausing this for a moment. Remember it's the last thing in the world you generally think about doing. But whenever there's a story about anywhere, whether it's New Jersey or Ukraine or wherever the Arctic, look at a map, really quickly, seriously, look look look at a map. It will help. It will help you understand what you're looking at and what you're talking about. More so Ukraine, as you see, it's not
only enormous, it's right there next to Russia. It's along the Black Sea, and that's going to be important for the purposes of our conversation here. But Ukraine obviously fell underneath the Soviet Union's orbit post w W two. The the Communists being what they are, they starved millions of people to death in stories that I will not go into now. They're too horrific to even talk about. You've
heard me discuss them before on the show. We're talking to the dogs walking around with people's arms in their mouths. It was just that families dying, all of them laying in the bed together, families of five, six laying in the same bed, just dying on each other of starvation. It's the worst thing in the world. Stalin's a monster. And part of the reason he was such a monster to Ukraine, and part of the reason he did that to them is because Ukraine was so plentiful, It had
so much. Now this is going to be really, really, really important for the purposes of not understanding the history of it, but for understanding where we are now and where we're going to be going forward. When Trump and Zolensky they're talking about minerals in Russia, so that map, maybe you're i'mus, you're driving, I hope you're looking at it, but it doesn't matter whether or not you are you
see Russia. You see Ukraine right if you can't if you're driving, Ukraine's on the left, Russia's on the right, right, you see it. Here's the thing for Russia. Most of its population is in the west. It's towards Ukraine. Russia. You look at this gigantic country and if you've never been there, and I've never been there, if you've never been there, you probably do the very human thing and assume that the population is spread out all over the
place fairly evenly. Of course, there are big cities here in big no no, no, no, no no. Russia, especially in the west, especially in the north, is an inhospitable, disastrous place. In the east, it's barren, freaking I won't say empty. There are things there. But the vast majority of Russia's population is in the western portion. Okay with me there now the western portion of Russia, but's right up against Ukraine. And that's obvious. Doesn't take a genius
to figure out that's Ukraine's eastern portion. In Ukraine's eastern portion, that is where there are critical and I do mean critical resources, as in virtually all of the resources in Ukraine. They're in the eastern part of Ukraine. Am I boring you yet? Stay with me. We're gonna go somewhere. Stay with me. So in Ukraine you could see it. Well, I see this crimea step Jesse. I don't understand it.
The resources are in eastern Ukraine, right next to Russia, where most of Russia's people are a right, you with me so far? Now Stalin oppresses these people horribly. There's all kinds of history back and forth, but something something happened over the course of time. NATO. You know what NATO is. It's an organization. I know, I don't like it either. It's an organization that is explicitly anti Russia.
That's the whole purpose of it is to oppose Russia, Russian aggression, the Soviet Union, the countries of NATO, including US. We we wanted access. This really took place under Obama. In case you're wondering where to finger the blame. We really wanted those absurd resources that are in eastern Ukraine right up against western Russia. We wanted those. We wanted access to those. And at the time we're talking back in twenty fourteen, at the time the Ukrainian government that
was there. They did not They did not have a favorable view really of the west of US. They were much more of a Russian centric place. Now, this is where I need to pause and tell you something else. You need to think of Ukraine at least ethnically as two different places. The western part of Ukraine Ukrainian, the eastern part of what is modern day Ukraine Russian. They
speak Russian. It's an ethnically Russian place with me, all right, So as long as I've set that up, there's a long ugly history here of borders being redrawn and famine and death and wars and all kinds. There's all kinds of history there. But what you need to know to put it simply as we move on here, and I explained the situation. Ukraine is an absurdly wealthy country in resources, ridiculously wealthy, rare earth minerals and energy. They just have
a ton of stuff. And they were completely controlled by the Soviet Union at one point in time. Then they weren't, and then pre twenty fourteen they had kind of a pro Russian government. Barack Obama, the NATO, the UK decided they were going to change that. And that's where we will pick up our story in just a moment. Before we get to that, let's save a baby's life, shall we.
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my fault that I have to sneeze every now and then. Now, what we're doing in case you're just now joining us, giving people a kind of a different perspective on the whole Russia Ukraine historical thing before we get on the tariffs and the commies in the state of the Union and everything else. So I talked briefly about the history of it case you're just here though. Ukraine. The eastern portion of it is where all the resources are. It's
absurdly wealthy Russia. Russia wants and in fact, frankly kind of needs control over that portion for a couple different reasons. It's not only the resources that Russia wants, the resources that are in eastern Ukraine. Look at the map. Remember the map again. We keep doing the map, I keep doing the map thing. Help you understand things. You know what's wild about Russia? Look at that map. Look at how vast that country is, several times bigger than the
United States of America. And we're a big, big, big country, but Russia's you look at it. Now, instead of focusing on the land mass, look at something else. Look at the water that Russia touches, the oceans around it, not the lakes and things like that. Look at the ocean water around Russia. Now you tell me just browsing and again, maps tell you so much about the story. How many warm water ports do you think Russia has? All that land, all that land, all that coastline, and Russia doesn't have
many warm water ports. Russia needs to have some sort of control for its own purposes. I'm not talking about for our purposes or whatever. For its own purposes. It must have the eastern portion of Ukraine either in its possession or extremely pro Russian, so it can use the warm water port crimea. Now back to what we were discussing.
We NATO, I'll just call it Layton NATO. Even though the United States of America was heavily involved, NATO was heavily involved, decided we wanted to get rid of this pro Russian sentiment inside of Ukraine's government, and so we engineered a coup the State Department the United States of America. Look, we have to own part of this. We engineered a coup State Department the United Nations to bounce out the people in charge and instead install somebody who would be
much more pro Western. Now let me pause once again on you here. How afraid is Vladimir Putin of a pro Western government in Ukraine? Remember I just explained to you why he needs it so badly? How afraid is he of that? Well, at one point in time, there was a man by the name of the Yashenko who wanted to be much more pro Western as he took over Ukraine. Go look at a before and after picture
of mister Yushenko today. You may wonder why this man, who really, I mean, granted I'm straight, a fairly handsome individual as he was younger, why he looks like a monster. Now, that's because Vladimir Putin tried to murder him. He poisoned him and tried to kill him, only he didn't die. That's how adamant Russia is about making sure there is no pro Western government in Ukraine. And I already explained why they want that. Now twenty fourteen, we engineered the coup,
we get our pro Western government. What does the pro Western government do? Remember I told you Western Ukraine Ukrainian ethnically, I'm talking about Eastern Ukraine Russian. In fact, eastern Ukraine is so Russian they speak Russian. The pro Western government reinstalled in two thy fourteen went so far to be pro Western and anti Putin that they banned the speaking of the Russian language. These were the moves also Barack Obama being in office. These were the moves that prompted
Vladimir Putin to invade Crimea. Even if you're vaguely aware of the news, you do remember that, right, It was all over the news. Putin invades Crimea. Putin invades Crimea. Well again, pull up that map of yours. What's Crimea? Where's Crimea? Well, it's a warmwater port, a warm water area, it's right there in the water. Putin was not going to allow the new pro Western government to crowd him out of a port on the Black Sea he felt
he needed, and by the way. Don't you dare send me an email saying you're defending I'm not one and two. I'm talking about history. Save your emails. I don't care if you're offended. This is the history of the region, all right, Putin invades CRIMEA Okay, Now let's fast forward to where we are today. You know about the Joe Biden involvement there. Now, what is that? That Joe Biden involvement you get? I mean, Joe Biden gets his son hired,
his son's working for a corrupt energy company. Joe Biden as vice president has to engineer the firing of the prosecutor.
And over I guess the twelve thirteenth time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there's another billion dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Porshenko and from Yachts and YUK that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn't. So they said they were walking out to prescot. I said no, I said, I'm not going to go or we're not
going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no a. You're not the president, the president said, I said, call him I said, I'm telling you're not getting a billion dollars. You're not getting a billion. I'm gonna be leaving you.
You may think that guy didn't call Barack Obama because he wanted a billion dollars. He didn't call Barack Obama because he didn't have a pure talk phone and he wasn't sure the call was going to go through. You see the beauty of pure talk and we'll get back to the rest of this Ukraine Talk in a moment. The beauty of pure Talk isn't just the fact that you save a fortune. Average family saves one thousand dollars
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idiots themselves like normal. That's always a good time. But in case you're just now joining us, you're behind. Sorry you've missed two segments. We're talking history, really Ukrainian Russian history, about the political upheaval in that area and kind of how we ended up where we are, and then we'll get to the mineral deal they're going to get to
in the little blow up and things like that. But we talked about the Joe Biden thing, you know, about the Joe Biden corruption there, and obviously it's bads Tebanyl and support it, but what is it indicative of Once we got our quote pro Western government there in Ukraine, once we got our hooks into Ukraine, and it's not just us when I say us, I'm really talking about NATO. We the United States of America were very involved in it, but so was the UK so were these other countries.
Once we got our hooks in this several trillion dollars in resources, Once we got our hooks in there, well what did you think the den of robbers who've been robbing you were going to do? Once they got their hooks in Ukraine? They went over there to rob them. What Joe Biden did is just really what so many Western political leaders and business leaders did. As soon as we got the government we wanted in Ukraine, they set up shop and started stuffing it in their pockets. Biden
was no exception to that. Okay, Now, why would Vladimir Putin at all go into the Dunbass region and the regions of Ukraine he wants. He was watching it push too far. Ukraine was talking about NATO official NATO membership, and remember Putin I already told you he already tried to murder Ukrainian leaders. He's that adamant about this whole thing. He was never he can never, for his own economic reasons, he cannot allow a complete loss of that particular region
of Ukraine. One, it's ethnically Russian anyway, they speak Russian. And two, as I pointed out twenty times during this show, that's where all the money is, that's where the resources are Putin needed it, or at least thinks he needs it. Again, I'm not defending him. I don't like him either. So he goes in and decided, at any cost, it's worth it.
Have you ever wondered during this whole three years of butchery, one and a half million people dead, have you wondered why there hasn't been some rebellion, some revolution in Russia? After all, he's the one who was the aggressor, he invaded, and now Russia is bogged down in this horrible war, with all these Russians dying, Why hasn't there been a rebellion,
a revolution? Because with the political elites in Russia, the thinking is that Putin is one hundred percent correct, that he must have this area because of the resources there, because he needs that warm water port, because you understand what I'm saying. So that brings us to last Friday, and you've heard it's totally stale by now. I won't belabor the point. Zolenski shows up at the White House
to sign the mineral deal. And maybe you don't know this, you probably do by now, But the mineral deal was done. It was so done that they had I think there were two two official binders already prepared with the mineral deal in it that Trump and Zelensky were gonna sign, and then they were gonna do a press conference after the one. You saw. Look at this. We got the mineral deal done. Mineral deal, we got it done. That
was supposed to happen, and then it was bizarre. I'm not gonna go over it against It's an old story. But Zelinsky at the end of the meeting, it was a fifty minute meeting. At the end of it, it was done. If honestly, if he could just have duct taped his mouth shut for five minutes, the mineral deal's done. Done more over, at least almost over. It's good. But then he just decides to start interrupting, truck.
Your country is in big trouble. No, No, you've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know you're not winning.
You're not winning this.
You have a damn good chance of coming out, okay, because of some president lasting Nawa.
Country, interrupting him, talking over him. They're interrupting, talking over him. It was it was almost as if he intentionally blew up the deal. In the end. When I watched it, I was in an airport flying back to Ohio for all this funeral stuff. When I watched it, I watched what you watched. I thought to myself, that looks intentional. I've seen you know, I was. I did r V sales for a while before I did this. I was selling RV's. You know, one of the main rules in sales.
It sounds like a stupid rule until you get into sales and you realize how often it happens. One of the main rules in sales is don't talk yourself out of a sale. I've seen people do it a million times, meaning you get the yes, the deal is done, you're printing paperwork whatever, you're shaking hands, and then the salesman. I've seen it so many times. The salesman will say something and you're sure you like that color right now? They're well, maybe I'm not sure. I want to go
look at it. Do you have it in a baby blue? You know what? I need to go home and think about it. You never get them again. Talk yourself out of a sale. There's talking yourself out of a sale, and then there's whatever Zolensky did on Friday. You finally had the butchery ending, You finally had America who would
stand with you. And I just explained to you with that little history lesson why mineral rights and rare earth minerals, why that is so critical to us, and why that essentially is a security deal to Zelensky, because if the United States of America has an extreme vested financial interest in it, then Zolensky knows, well Putin can't come in and take it again, he can't come in take whatever he wants. The mineral deal is a security deal for
that reason, because then it's our money on the line. Anyway. He just blows the whole deal up, just completely blows the whole dealer, leaves it ends badly. Trump goes and says Zelensky's not welcome back. In case you don't know this, you probably already do. Zelensky was sitting in the other room and Marco Rubio, this was after that blow up. Rubio and Walls National Security Visor Walls. They walked in and they told him, hey, you need to go, and
Zelensky says, no, I'm ready to meet with Trump. Let's let's talk to Trump again. And Rubio flat out told him if you met with Trump again right now, it would be counterproductive. Trust me, you need to get in your car and you need to leave. Zelensky doesn't just leave. He leaves and runs to the media and really continues bagging on Trump in America for all attents and purposes.
That's what he did. And then he spent the rest of that same day on social media parroting the talking points, or i should say, repeating what European leaders in NATO were saying. If from Germany, UK, they were all saying, no, we stand with Zelensky. This is ridiculous, we stand with Zolensky. And Zelensky was essentially out there publicly saying yes, thank you, yes, thank you, yes, thank you, kind of all of them, Europe and Zelensky thumbing their nose at Trump, thumbing their
nose at the peace steel. Did you find that bizarre? Well, I bet now that you know a little bit more about the history of the region, it's a little less bizarre, isn't it. They don't necessarily want a peace Steel and Zelensky over the weekend goes and starts courting his European partners. He goes and meets They even did a photo op together. They went and met with all these NATO people and NATO without us. They take a big group picture with Zelensky.
We stand with Zolensky and that Moe more On, who's in charge of the UK Starmer or whatever's idiot name is. Oh, we're gonna send planes and we're gonna send troops. We've got you covered, Zolenski. So how do we get from that to now? We are what little more than two hours away from Trump announcing publicly that they signed the minerals deal. We'll wrap that up in just a moment. Before we wrap that up. Do you like what I
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That'll be a thing. We'll talk about the hive mind and emails and there's just there's just so much to get to it on how we're gonna get to all of it, but wrapping up this this whole Russia Ukraine thing. So what happened? White House meeting blows up, Zelensky goes over, finds all his new friends in Europe. Yes, we'll support him,
we'll support him. The UK says they'll send planes, they'll send troops, they'll send this, they'll send that, and all that sounds great, except Trump came out, to his credit really well done, and said, you know what, no more military aid from US, No more aid period. You're on your own. Sorry, goodbye. That happened yesterday, an entire weekend of Zelensky flirting with the other girls in NATO, and
yesterday Trump says, okay, no more aid from US. Today, Zelenski puts out what really can only be described as a groveling post online. It was really I'm not gonna read it, but it was. Man, I really regret what happened in the White House, and I'm ready to sign the mineral deal. Comes out today and says, hey, I'm you know what I had to change your heart. Wish it hadn't gone that way. I'm game, And like I said, tonight at the State of the Union. The rumor is,
I obviously haven't seen it yet. The rumor is Trump is going to announce the minerals deal that it was signed tonight. What happened, Europe doesn't have the money, Europe doesn't have the troops. What happened was NATO thought that they could keep this war going. And now that we just covered all the history of it and the wise,
now it's become a lot clearer, isn't it. Why NATO wanted this entire thing to keep going, because it seemed like everyone, including Zelensky, wanted it to keep going without end. Why why why why why? We just explained the why they wanted to keep their fingers stuck in that big pot of gold that is in Ukraine. Trump saw an opportunity to end everything, and in the process in Rich America a bit more. That's how it all went down.
And these European leaders, who oh, I know, they got a lot of support on social media for our strand much Rolensky and all those things like that. The problem was their countrymen didn't feel the same. This one was from rabbit Hole. It was the Guardian who put out the graphic, though one of the more hilarious polls I've ever seen. You want to know the percentage of people in Denmark the percentage of Danes who thought Ukraine is
not getting enough Western support? Sixty six percent. Wow, those Danes, they really stand behind Ukraine. But wait a minute, what percentage? What percentage of these types of people, what percentage of them thought that they should give more? Seventeen Hey, someone else should definitely help Ukraine. And it's the same thing across the board. Sweden sixty three to twenty nine, Britain fifty eight. If you go talk to the Brits, fifty eight percent of them will be like, yeah, waited more
support for Ukraine, just not from US. Fifty what is it? Fifty eight to twenty one. It's that way across the board. Everybody liked to virtue signal online. Everybody looked like to look like the White Knight online. I will stand with them,
I will stand with them. But as soon as the United States of America, as soon as Donald Trump cut off the checkbook, as soon as he canceled the credit cards, all those countries said, oh yeah, by the way, Zelensky, we have like two tanks and like nine hundred troops, and I don't think we're gonna be able to help all that much. What happened was Donald Trump called everyone's bluff. He called Zelensky's bluff, he called the rest of NATO's bluff.
And that's why tonight, during that State of the Union, Donald Trump is going to announce the mineral deal. A couple little things I'll put at the end of this, and then we're moving on. I'm done talking about this subject. One. That doesn't mean we have peace quite yet. It's it's an enormous, huge step. Russia is reportedly already on board. They want peace. There's even talk that they're going to allow us to have a portion of their mineral you
know it. Now, it's going to be a territorial thing where Russia says, Okay, do I get to keep everything we grabbed? Okay? No, do I get to keep most of it?
Now?
Look now, it's about crossing the t's and dotting the ice. And I'm telling you right now I don't think it will. But that can go sideways. We've all seen that. If you've lived long enough, you've seen that happen in your life at some point in time where the deal. It conceptually is done, but once you get into the details it can blow up. But I think this is probably the beginning of the end of it. That's the good news good news. The bad news is this, and it
is what it is. There's nothing we can do about it. The bad news is, well, I just laid out the situation, didn't I Where the resources were, and why Russia wants it, and why NATO wants it, and I just I mean, I just laid all that out for an hour. Just because there's a peace agreement tonight, that doesn't change any of that. Trillions with at t as in tango, trillions of dollars in resources are sitting right there. Does tonight's
peace agreement or it won't be tonight? But does the peace agreement that is eventually signed between Russia and Ukraine? Does that finally end this big mess that they always seem to be fighting over there? Probably not. It gives us a nice break, a welcome break with all the money and the butchery and the blood and the misery. It gives us all that. Does it end the fighting there? Permanently? Will they be? Will there be peace in Ukraine from
this point forward? I think you probably have to be pretty naive to think that, but for now we'll take it, won't we. So there that is the story. This has been a podcast from wor