A Discussion About the C.I.A.

The subject is Democrats strategy change on violence, Jesse. After the Dirty Commis turned Charlie Kirk into a political martyr, do you think they'll adapt and try to make future attacks look less brazen and political, like an accident or a street crime. All right, his name is Seth. So I understand what you're saying from a grand strategy standpoint.

If you're one of these communists, you're looking at the Charlie Kirk assassination and look, on top of everything else, it would be hard to take it as anything but a complete disaster for you. A complete disaster for you. They're turning point USA chapters sprouting up all over the country now by the thousands, they're fielding requests everywhere. Church pews are fuller than they've ever been, twenty twenty five percent increase in attendance. All it did was fill the

right with resolve. It woke normies up. As far as power goes, political power goes, the assassination of Charlie Kirk was a complete disaster for the communists. One hundred million people watch the memorial. It has been a disaster for them. So logic states, Eh, maybe we shouldn't do that again. Maybe we should stop killing prominent people on the right because it looked Okay. Here's something we have to understand about elite communists versus street communists, As we've talked about

many times before, two different divisions. You understand that there are elite communists, politicians, media people. They give out the orders. The street communists do it. The street communists, though they're not, for the most part, the most put together people in the world. It's not as if these street animals are at home reading Marx and Angles and Gramshi and learning about communist theory and they just have a different view

on economics. That's not what most of these street groups are it's the religion of what what's communism, the religion of the malcontent. What These street animal groups are like Antifa are miserable, bitter, oftentimes drugged down, sexually deviant freaks, and they are angry and they are violent. And you think, or I shouldn't say, you think it would be easy to think that they came into a group like Antifa because they are communists and they want the communist revolution

to move forward. Oftentimes, though that is not the case. They come to these groups like Antifa because they are violent and they want to commit acts of violence, and this group gives them a cause. You know, though we aimed at something. But what this group does for them is it gives them an outlet for their bitterness and their anger. It allows them to hurt people. You could take that Antifa scumbag out of Antifa, he is still going to be a violent person, and that violence is

going to be channeled towards somewhere. What I'm saying is even if you are, I mean, look, pick, I don't even know who you would pick the political head of the Democrat Party at this time, so I'll just use the placeholder. Like Gavin Newsom, He's just a placeholder. I don't think he's calling any shots, but we'll use Gavin Newsom.

If you are Gavin Newsom and you are politically savvy and he is, and you look at the assassination and yeah, you don't care about it, but you understand that it probably doesn't help your presidential chances to have the street animals who believe what you believe killing people. And let's say you want it to stop. Let's say you even through various channels, get word down of Hey, guys, could you stop murdering people please? It would be great for

my presidential campaign if you didn't murder people. Even if he's tried to put the word out there like that, Well, you can't stop a killer. They are there so they can commit acts of violence. These are Have you ever I would have encourage you. If you haven't, and you probably have already seen this before. Have you ever looked at those group mug shots at times when Antifa gets arrested, though arrest five or six of them, have you ever

seen them? There's all kinds of Look you can go look it up right now on the internet, as long as you're not driving and look at them. I'm not even I'm not even gonna specify one because I don't have to specify one. Go look up a group mug shot where the masks are off, the black clothing is off, and look at those freaks. Do you think if orders come down from Gavin Newsom, Hey, could you calm down, do you think those freaks are going to set aside violence?

They're there for the violence. That's the whole point. I have talked about the street animals, the street communists in this country many times before, as they are Frankenstein's monster, the Democrat Party, the communists in the media who are with them, they are obviously the ones who helped create that monster with the endless Nazi Nazi Nazi endless rhetoric like that, ginning these people up, getting them revved up.

But something happened along the way. Now elite communists have a great deal of fear of the street communists because the street communists are savages, they are violent animals. Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer is actually a great example of this. Chuck Schumer's always been a scumbag and he's a total lizard person who doesn't believe in anything. I got all that,

but Chuck Schumer's rhetoric. In the last ten years, I would say Chuck Schumer's rhetoric has sounded less like a standard Democrat and more like AOC, more like Jasmine Crockett. Why did Chuck Schumer go to the left. This guy doesn't believe in anything not left right or anything. He believes in being a powerful senator. That's what he believes in. So why does he talk like that? Now? Why get up and give speeches talking about reaping the whirlwind? And

why does he speak like that? Now? He has to. He doesn't have a choice. If he doesn't, AOC is going to primary him, and the animals who make up the Democrat pace are going to choose her over him, because she will get up and loudly proclaim we need to end capitalism and all Republicans are Nazis, and she will get up and say all the things he is unwilling to say, so he has to be willing to say it. This has had an effect where now the

most vile, violent people demand this stuff. Why do you think Democrat members of Congress and want to be members of Congress across the country are showing up at ice facilities and loudly protesting and in some cases assaulting ICE agents. Remember what's the name Shrever Lamonica? I forget her name? That one congresswoman who assaulted an ICE agent on camera. Why are they all doing this? Are they all really angry about deportations? Are they all really that committed to it? No,

that's how you get elected in the Democrat Party. Yeah, I may get arrested, shoot, I may even be looking at a charge. But how good do I look for the animals who vote for me? I'm the Democrat congressman who showed up at the ICE facility and I assaulted one vote for me. That's how truly demonic and deranged the party has become. This was a long way of saying I do not believe the assassinations will stop because

I do not believe the street animals can be controlled. Now, you've been giving them orders for ten years, for ten fifteen years, you've been telling them that this is the end of the world. We're up against Nazis. We're up against Nazis. Are you strike ready? Are you street ready? What's your risk tolerance? Remember that Jaya poald cut I've played over and over and over again on the show. We've got to be strike ready. We've got to be ready. We've got to be ready. It's Nazis. The situation is

dire Nazis. It's dire Nazis. It's dire. Oh you have it. Go ahead, Chris, How do you walk this back?

what's happening increases. So overall, the more we understand what's effective, what the risks are, and who's ready to participate, the more impact we can have.

say something wonderful that happened to me today. Not surprising, but wonderful. Somebody on the internet said I was ex Cia. Don't shake your head, Chris. Now, of course that's not true, but I could understand why he think that I'm a very covert person. I've always said, yes, I am, Chris. I've always been able to, even with my incredible height, I've always been able to just kind of blend into a crowd. I just I have a way, this special ability to kind of move with the crowd in a

way that makes me disappear. I walk very lightly, almost almost like in Ninja. I walk extremely lightly. Don't say anything, Chris. I've always felt that I would have been, as you know, an excellent, excellent secret agent the Kremlin. I could get in North Korea, I'd fit right in. Do you want me to go to China? Who's gonna suspect me? And people say you can't hide. I hide in plain sight. I pretend as if I'm not one. That's part of the secret of being a secret agent. So while I

was never CIA. For people who suspect I was, I get it, I do oh tall beardly oracle, how can you say something like the CIA has never been good and not elaborate? Can you please explain this has been gnawing at me since you said that. Ps I celebrated my anniversary with pure talk. How about that. Not only am I saving a lot of money, I have better service. Thank you for the recommendation. All right, so CIA, First of all, let's remember where this began. How this began.

In World War Two, we knew we needed an intelligence network. You have to have a network of people gathering intelligence. And pause before we actually do that. At all intelligence network spy agencies. It doesn't matter which one it is, all around the world, it doesn't matter their job. We like to think of spies as James Bond. You know, you go down and play poker and then you have a car that shoots missiles. But that's actually not supposed

to be what intelligence agents do. Traditionally, historically, even before the modern era, you gather intelligence. You are eyes and ears, and when appropriate, when necessary, do things like sabotage, maybe help create political divides in a place. These are the traditional rules of intelligence agencies. This is what they do. However, there is something else that is true. Yeah, it's exactly right, Chris.

Real life spy stuff seems boring. Chris says, Okay, so remember I told you my story about how they attempted to recruit me into military intelligence when I was my four years in the Marine Corps was about to be up, and they invited me down and they showed me their intelligence room and things like that. And as you can imagine, I'm an idiot. So I'm asking questions about exploding pens and stuff like that, and I want to know spy stuff, and they were very, very frank, and they flat out

told me, actually, it's pretty boring. We just kind of type up reports and things like that. Real life spy stuff. Intelligence stuff is generally boring. But like I was just saying, there is something that happens historically with intelligence agencies, and this happens a lot, a lot. The agency itself is made up of spies. They have information other people do not have, and they operate out of necessity in secret.

The spy agency, whatever one we're talking about, they can't take out an ad in the paper and talk about what they just did. It's secret. They have information other people don't have. They also traditionally have access to arms if they need them. They they end up growing in power, and they oftentimes end up more powerful than the government itself or an actual threat to the government itself. This is consistent throughout time. Because of what they do, they

gain insane amounts of power. Now rewinding back to what we were discussing. In World War II, we had to develop something called THESS, THESS Office of Strategic Services. I believe it was called OSS. It was the CIA before there was a CIA. They did exactly what you think they did. They gathered all the intelligence they could, did all the secret spy stuff they possibly could to help us win World War two. Boom world War two ends.

We immediately, honestly, not even immediately before World War Two even officially ended, we understood that the Soviet Union was going to be a problem. They were going to be a problem, the Soviet Union. They were aggressively communists, spreading as fast as they could spread. It was an evil, evil, evil regime that slaughtered its own people, killed people in mass and we understood they they had a top notch intelligence agency. It is the JESSE Kelly Show on a

Wonderful Friday. Member, you can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We're actually talking a little bit about CIA history of intelligence agencies. Before I get back to the CIA. Why are communists traditionally better at spying than people on the right. Why, Well, it's a couple different things. One, they're religiously committed to it. That's a big thing. It's a very very big thing. Remember it's a religion for them.

But two, and this really comes into play. What if we always talked about when it comes to communists and lying, lying is a necessity? Was spy that rhymed? Chris? Did you see that? What that lying is a necessity with spying for communists, that's second nature, that's required of them. You lie, you lie all the time. There are naturals at it all. Right back to the CIA, though, after World War Two we had an OSS. They knew the Soviet Union was going to be a problem. They knew

they had to create a counter spy agency. Our government did, or I should say they thought they did, and they probably did. They came up with obviously Central Intelligence Agency. Now William Donovan is the man who was running the OSS in World War Two, and he's really the one who created the CIA, or was in charge of creating CIA. And there's a great quote, and I've never been able to verify if this quote was actually his, but there's a great quote from him in the movie The Good Shepherd.

It's a movie about kind of essentially the creation of the CIA. I love that movie. Everyone else who ever watched it hated it, but I thought it was wonderful. And there is a lot of factual stuff in him. And he has this great quote when he's talking about creating the Central Intelligence Agency. He said, I'm very worried. I want this to be America's eyes and ears, not its heart and soul. He's a man who understood intelligence agencies can very very quickly get way way out of control.

Now you have the Central Intelligence Agency and they're going up against the Soviet Union and their spying, and they're counterspying, and they're doing things like this. They tried to pull off things like the Bay of Pigs, where we recruited Cuban ex pats and we trained them here in America and other places, and then we sent them in without support.

And the whole thing was an embarrassing disaster, and the CIA started working with the American mafia, trying to figure out how to take out Fidel Castro and doing all kinds of things done in the dark, in secret. When I said I'm not sure, I never said they were always bad. When I said I'm not sure the CIA has ever been good, that was probably an overstatement. But it is an organization that is the largest, most powerful

spy agency in the world. They do operate in the shadows, and they we now know they have participated, just like the FBI, in communist politics. Have you ever heard of here, I'll leave you with this and we'll move on. You've heard of Operation Gladio, right, you know what that was. I'm actually tempted to do a history episode on it at some point in time, in more depth. But we saw the Soviet Union expanding across Europe, across the world, really and we wanted more subtle ways to counter it.

How did we do this. We use a variety of different means, but one of the ways we did this was we had the Central Intelligence Agency. We had them fund and train violent right wing street groups in countries where the Soviet Union was gaining influence. These right wing street groups would beat people up, vandalize things, They would do things essentially Antifa is doing in America today, only

Antifa is a left wing group. My buddy Mike Ben's talks about this all the time, and Mike Benz, who knows more about this stuff than a lot of people, Mike Bens is extremely suspicious that Antifa is a continuation of Operation Gladio only for the other side. We know that all this information has come out about Operation Gladio. We know that that's what the CIA was doing. As far as the funding the right wing groups and right wing violence in different country, we know all that. We

know that are they involved with Antifa? I don't know. It's an organization not to be trusted by any means, not saying at all everything they've ever done is bad or anything like that. But I'm not sure it's an organization that's on the up and up, and that's putting it mildly colored me skeptical. Hey, Jesse, why don't we actively deport individuals who continuously promote jihad, including politicians? Isn't

this insurrection speech? It is insurrection speech. But we have a useless, pathetic, weak organization it's known as the Republican Party, and the Republican Party, they'll run right up to the point where they can actually do something about what's happening in the country, and then they will famously wiss out

like always. It is beyond belief to me that we have a town in the United States of America, dearborn, Michigan, that has the Muslim call to prayer multiple times a day, and people who don't understand America's history, they will tell you to the blue in the face so well, it's freedom of religion. That's not at all what the founders were talking about. When it comes to freedom of religion.

They were not talking about allowing a foreign religion to come conquer an American city and run everyone else out. That is crazy talk. But you can't get Republicans to be bold and speak like that, so we're stuck with what we're stuck with here. Hey Jesse, I'm twelve. I love the show. I'm wondering what I can do to not let the communists take over our beautiful country. Says I can say his name, his name is Talan Well talent. I appreciate you very much. I appreciate that spirit you have.

Have you looked into possibly create a group in your school, maybe even a TPUs eight group I'll tell you teenagers in my kids' school, or creating it right now. There are all kinds of things you can do with your friends, with people you know, to help get this country back on the right track. So maybe look into that and remember something talent growing up learning. Remember you're gonna have to educate yourself on things, learning about the capitalism and

the constitution and America's founding. Learning all these things is a critical part of your role. If you want to be involved, you're gonna have to be knowledgeable and get married and start a family when you grow up. The best anti communism there is is a man marrying a woman, making babies and raising them right. The nuclear family unit is the greatest threat to communism in every country where it's ever taken root, and the communists know it. That's

why they have attacked the American family without end. In this country. They understand their great threat are nuclear families staying together, raising solid human beings. You take a child raised in a solid nuclear family with solid values, the chances that child is going to end up as a recruit in the Communist Party are low, not impossible, but low. You take some child who's a complete disaster, drugged out parents, messy childhood, a child who's mixed up. That child is

a prime recruit for the Communists. Grow up, gain knowledge, be an activist when you're young. You don't have to wait till you're order. Find yourself a dime when you're old enough. You're twelve years old. Now find yourself a dime who loves you. Support you, Put a ring on her finger, and make some babies with her. After you're married, make some babies with her. All right? Is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Friday. Remember you can download the show if you miss any part of it

Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Bracket Buster Bronco. Oh, by the way, as you can tell, there's no crappiest country in the world tournament today. We don't do them on Fridays. It'll return on Monday. Hey, Chris, who is it on Monday? Who's the bracket on Monday? Who's it between? There's no one on Monday. Oh, oh, there's none on Monday either. It's Tuesday, Thursday. Monday is India and somebody. I forget who it was. Well, that doesn't matter. The

none on Monday. There's one on Tuesday. I'll let you know who it is whenever I figured it out. Bracket Buster Bronco. Is it just me or doesn't feel like the left is pulling out all the stops at the buzzer feels like a boxing match. They've been dominated for eight rounds. Now they're at the point they're biting off years, taking cheap shots, so on and so forth. In your opinion, can they see the writing on the wall? Who do they really think they are winning this fight? It's been

a while since we heard the freedo bandido. I'm beginning to think he got deported. No, he's here. Ah ya ya yai.

really quickly. So that's a problem. That's a problem for them. So, yes, they are desperate. That's an aspect to it. Another aspect to it is, remember when it comes to the ice stuff, shooting at ice agents, blocking ice facilities. As we've talked about many times before, illegal immigration is not one of many communist issues democrat issues. It's not just thrown in the big bowl of other things they love, like abortion and high taxes. It is there everything. It's why they're

doing it in every single globalist communist country. With mass migration, the mass immigration of foreigners, they cannot possibly lose because they will bring in enough of an army to vote you out, to outnumber you. They cannot possibly lose. Without the mass migration of foreigners, that cannot possibly win. They are not popular. It is there everything, So that is part of why you're seeing the ice stuff. Okay, now

let that aside. You use the power you have. The Communists have always believed that if they have everything, they'll use everything. If they take over everything, the Presidency, House, Senate, but they'll simply use those things, pass the laws, they once, send the FBI after people. Again, that's what they do. If you don't have those things, and they don't. They don't have the White House, they don't have the House, they don't have the Senate, they don't have public popularity.

What do they have though? The only thing they have are violent groups of street animals who want to hurt people. So if that's what you've got in their minds, that's what you use. Is there a desperation to it, of course, But there's also what other choice do we have here, doctor Big Hands? My dad and I generally agree on political issues, but he and I have wildly different understanding of the stakes we're currently facing as a country. You could say he's not been jesse peeled like I have.

He does not share my desire to act quickly against those who must be indicted. He does not share my desire to infiltrate Antifa and arrest every member, and he thinks if Trump just does these things that the media will portray him negatively and Republicans will lose in the mid terms. He has repeated the lines, stay the course, it's working, even have left as leftist militants of assassinated Kirk and shot up an ICE facility and terrorized an

ABC affiliate. How can I convince my dad that he is dead wrong, that speed is essential, that ruthless action against those who want us dead is needed now, and that the liberal media has no excuse for an action. Thank you for everything you do, says not to say his name, and I won't, Okay, So I don't know

that you have to convince him. I don't know that you have to remember there are always going to be a large quantity of bystanders in our little cultural war we're having in any country, but definitely the one we're having. In this one, there are going to be people who are ten miles behind you. They don't understand what you understand. It doesn't mean they're stupid, it doesn't mean they're bad people. And it also doesn't mean you have to bring them

all up to speed, because that's not humanly possible. Older people older people. And this is not universal. Believe me. There are some ninety year olds who listen to this show who are more hardcore than I am. But in general, the older you are, the less likely you are to be able to accept where we are as a country because you lived most of your life and it wasn't

like that. There were years and years and years if you look at most of the twentieth century, if you look at the nineteen hundreds, I'll be honest with you, there were all kinds of Democrats I could have voted for in the past. I'm not saying I would have been a Democrat. It's not like they were ever on the right. But all kinds of Democrats were relatively normal human beings, Southern democrats, people with values, not these communist animals.

So if you're let's say you're eighty years old for most of your life, maybe even if you were a Republican most of your life, Democrats aren't evil. Oh, we disagree on things like unions and stuff like that, but not evil. It's a good point, Chris, We've brought this up before. Go watch JFK's speeches. Listen to how that man spoke about America. How much he loved it, how much he talked about its greatness. There's not a single elected Democrat in the United States of America who talks

like that anymore, because it's the anti American Party. But it's hard, very very hard if things have always been a certain way to accept that they've changed. If you've loved Reese's Peanut Butter Cups your entire life, that's been your that's been your go to candy your whole life, Riese's Peanut Butter Cups over and over and over and over and over again, and Reesus changes the recipe, and

now they don't taste as good anymore. If you've been eating Reese's Peanut Butter Cups for sixty years, even if your tongue is telling you it tastes different, your mind probably won't be able to accept it,