Serial Killers, Psy Warfare & McGowan's Programmed to Kill: Jay Dyer

did read it, see my notes as proof. So we're going to talk about the alternate theories that are possible when it comes to so called serial killers. And this is what Dave McAllan presents in the book is a different thesis as to how it is and why it is. There was this explosion, you know, post Manson into the seventies and eighties of the serial killer phenomenon, which then seemed to transition in the nineties into movies at Hollywood, and it became a Hollywood thing, and you had all

these serial killer obsessed film theories and plots. You had all of these serial killer plots, But where were all the actual serial killers right from the nineties on into today. Not that many that we hear about at least in the news, right, So where did all the serial killers go? Well, Dave's going to give his analysis of several of the important serial killers from the last several years and what

was probably going on with these guys. What Dave's going to do is offer a lot of alternative evidence that is a ignored by mainstream media is and maybe the standard stories that you hear about these serial killers. And we're also going to get into the MK Ultra project and its potential connection to the Phoenix program, which is also a book by Doug Valentine that we will probably

discuss in the near future as well. But for Dave's thesis, what he's going to propose is that when you look at the military connections of the MK Ulture program, and this was, of course the programs throughout the forties and fifties and sixties that were known for experimentation into hypnosis, experimentation into truth serums, the stuff that you've probably seen

in movies and films. But the real research, of course has been dubbed into pretty in depth by other writers like John Marx and his book The Search for the Mentoring Canada, and we've covered that book at Jays Analysis Dave's book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, the Laurel Can Scene, we've covered that as well, and that deals with the MK Ultra and of course this book is going to

deal with it. And what he's going to propose is that because of these many military connections, and in fact that many of the top serial killers had these military intelligence and CIA type connections contract killer connections, that there's a good possibility that we can look back to something like the Phoenix program and see that that was probably connected to the MK Ulture program, and then by extension, that the serial killer phenomenon might have actually been a

US domestic manifestation of perhaps these guys coming back from their overseas service or being programmed at various clinics through what we see with doctor Ewan Cameron and the MK Ultra programs, Jose Delgado, Jolly and West. All these figures that we've seen so long in so called conspiracy circles be mentioned, but are actually really and truthfully doctor's psychiatrists right who were running the real in culture programs. So

that's the beginning setting for what Dave's writing about. And this is two thousand and four, so this is prior

to things like the BTK killer. So that's another guy, by the way, who is not in Dave's book, but had this pedigree of military and killer type, you know background, And that's really I think it makes a lot more sense than the home grown killer, which is what we're taught is really going on with people like Manson or these kind of characters that they're there these just random products of a bat upbringing or abuse or something like this.

And another aspect to this that the mainstream media rarely touches, except maybe in the Manson case I'll kind of talk a little bit about cults, is that Dave's going to die pretty deep into research done by other characters like Maury Terry in The Ultimate Evil, that maybe there were actually more powerful networks and cults in the background behind people like Berkowitz, people like Henry Lee Lucas, people like Richard Ramirez, the Knights Talker, and Manson, right, something beyond

the processed church. Even I'm not just talking about a cult. I'm talking about, you know, people with kind of these deep state, dark black side of the black ops world, right, who have a vested interest in maybe using someone like a psychopathic killer in the case where you might need to have a professional contract killer can have somebody oft And Dave's thesis is going to be, of course, in part that maybe what happens in some of these cases,

and he's going to give us some evidence. It's not just thesis, but if police have, say an unsolved crime in certain districts, right, he's not saying is everywhere in every police district in the US. He's just saying in certain states where you've had the problem of the so called serial killers, which tends to be for whatever reason, probably connected to Mexico and drugs and whatnot. Florida, Texas and California are the main regions where these serial killers

just pop up. And you know, obviously California is like a big one, right You have a whole bunch of serial killers that have had their reign of terror all

right out in California. So the first thing though that he sets it up is the whole idea of the pedophiles and government, which is interesting because Dave is no longer around, unfortunately, but in two thousand and four he was writing about this tendency of these siicos and Satanist and pedophiles who do seem to occupy, you know, the important levers of power in various states and in various

corporations and so forth. So that's where he sees that being connected, because it's kind of a he's painting a picture of the cultural decline that's also related to the rise of the serial killers. Right, you have the sixties revolution, which, in weird scenes inside Laurel Kenyon, he argued, was really fostered and aided and abetted by the establishment, Right, Like, these characters were given record deals that were given a

lot of promotion, a lot of attention. So that suggests that there was some degree of coordination that they were propelled to stardom the specific Laurel Kenyon people, like the Doors, Mamas and Papas, etc. For a reason. And so in the same way, he's going to point out the odd connections behind a lot of the serial killers, right in a similar way to how many of the Laurel Kenyon bands and so called artists had all these deep state

military family, military intelligence connections. In the same way, Dave's going to say that a lot of these serial killers seem to have the same pattern, and that fits with the idea, with the notion that they would have been part of, as we said, perhaps the Phoenix program or something akin to it, or something like the Mkulture program. Right, we think of Ted Kazinski. You know, he had a stint where he volunteered at Harvard to participate in mk

ultra experiments. That was actually in his obituary in I believe the LA Times or New York Times. You can go look that up. But yes, he was actually a willing participant in mkulture research. So if you're wondering why you get this sort of crazy guy out in the woods who's warning of the tech takeover, you know, a long time ago, and we're told that he's the one who's who's bombing the you know, maybe actually I'll do

my the Uni Bomber. I was actually thinking about doing a full unibrow and then I would have called it the unibrow Bomber. I may still do that skit. That sounds like a lot of fun. But remember these pictures that you saw of this guy in the nineties and he would just be like like up on the TV and they're saying, oh, that's the unibomber, and he he we know because he sends in you know, these bombs and he's gonna bomb all these planes. That sounds like

a bunch of bullshit to me, But who knows. Maybe this guy was really really just totally off his rocker, or maybe he was just living off the grid and they chose a patsy. But that's gonna be another theme, right, the unral Unibomber Report. That's gonna be another theme in Dave's book is the idea of when the police departments are needing to clear up some unsolved cases, maybe they stack them onto the so called serial killer or the professional hit killer and then voila. Right, serial killer X

y Z with three names. It's always three names. Bobby Lee Long, Right, he's got two hundred kills, which is hard to believe, But maybe some of those were actually

just stacked on unsolved crimes. The other important aspect to what Dave talks about is the notion of the serial killer phenomenon being social engineering, that what it had a tendency to do was make everybody very very afraid of public venues or going out or letting your kids play this kind of stuff, and that it adomized society because everybody got this false impression which wasn't actually true. That there were millions of serial killers out there everywhere, right,

millions of unibombers everywhere. Right. It's kind of the same with the war on terror, right, it's domestic version of this, that's there's just these psychos just everywhere. And that's not actually true. Right. There are certain cases where this appears to be the be true, and these people oftentimes have these very strange connections to you know, hardcore military killer family members, et cetera. Maybe they trained them, or they were involved in some sort of cult activity. So stop

being the unibomber there. So maybe you know, in a lot of these cases, we see that the serial killers happened to be multiple personality people. And what's neat is that Dave notes that the chief deniers of multiple personality disassociated identity disorder were actually the CIA people who were at the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which is a CIA funded disinformation outlet that was intended to debunk any idea

of ritual abuse. And then so the FBI and these different law enforcement entities would go to these experts who would then tell them, ohth there's no such thing as the satanic ritual abuse. That's all made up, right, So that that's just made up right, a's sensationalism and there's no real networks or ritual abuse or something like that.

So Dave covers all that which is really interesting. And this is, of course, I think what I may start to hon is, instead of the full hour, you know, do these fifteen minutes summaries, because people are a lot more willing to share fifteen minute things than they are forty five minute, one hour things, which for the listeners

you're still going to get. The subscribers, you're still going to get the full experience, where we will talk about the totality of the book in the review and the analysis, and of course I'm always going to recommend that people go by the actual book. My analysis and review is not a substitute. Is just a survey in the same way that we might discuss any work of literature or something like that. So you're going to see that a lot of these serial killers have high level political connections.

Why would that be? Why would Rosalind Carter write the first Lady be meeting with John Wayne Gacy? Right? And this is like photos of this This is a famous picture which I didn't know about until I heard Dave get some interviews and talk about book. And then when I read the book, I was just like, you can find this online. Why would Ted Bundy be, you know, working adamantly for the Nelson Rockefeller campaign. Right, he's very interested. I'm not saying that he was new him per se.

I don't know about that, but you know, why is he kind of this rising the GOP guy? Right? And Dave's talked about that a lot in interviews. So we're going to see a lot of cults are going to tie into mobs and this is something I've talked about a lot of jays analysis. And they're going to tie into intelligence agencies. And then so we're starting to see the architecture of the criminal networks and how they work and the power structure, how it works and so forth.

Now they use these people and what they do is they will profile for the psychos and then a psycho is useful? Right? What can we do with this psycho guy? Right? How what use would Manson perhaps be, what use would Berkowitz perhaps be? So the psychos are put to the system's use, right, And that's not to say that that there aren't psychos. They are. You see, these are the people who actually were abused. A lot of them were

child prostitutes. They were prostituted out, they were molested. A lot of them their parents their mom was a prostitute, and who would like make them watch in the case of Henry Lee Lucas, and so obviously this guy's damaged, right, So that's what's happened to a lot of these guys.

And then they become dissociated, right, they have these alternate states, and even Dave is it willing to kind of give the possibility or or halfway admit in some some sections of the book, maybe these they're also kind of possessed, right, So they're not just splits alternate identities. They might also have spiritual problems in possession. And I think that's the

most logical analysis too. So you've been listening to Jay's analysis, and next, if you want to see the full analysis of Dave's book when we look at a lot of these cases of the serial killers and they're al personalities and Dave's totality argument and thesis, you need to subscribe to Jays Analysis for ninety five a month or for sixty dollars a year. You can also get in my book esotery, Hollywood sex, cults and symbols and film signed at my website and thank you for watching, and get

ready to get into some pretty dark, nasty stuff. But it's illustrative, it's interesting, and it reminds me again of the Shamalan movie Split, right. I mean, I know that's Hollywood, but if you watched Split, it's very reminiscent of what we read in Programmed to Kill. Now we moved to the actual text and what Dave argues in the book, and he mentions the importance of mind control. And this

is something that we've talked about many times. We've done a lot of interviews, a lot of talks, a lot of discussions in the reality of mind control and how it would be use full in many different fields. Marketing would be interested in this, Psychology would be interested in this, intelligence, agencies, military, you name it. All would be interested. Cults, right, So, all these various aspects of our crazy world could have

some potential use for mind control. And so you can see why with the development of all the scientific techniques since the scientific revolution, as to why this would be such an important focus of study and the government, especially our government, especially in the last fifty sixty seventy years has poured tremendous money into this. And as we said, that was documented in John Marx's book The Search for the mansorin Candidate, which you can get that book as well.

It will be in the recommended reading page as I update that in the next couple days at Jay's analysis, and I also have my review and analysis of that book. Now, some of these books that he's mentioned were probably familiar with. He mentions Acid Dreams, he mentions Journey into Madness, Delgado's book Physical Control of the Mind, one of the MK ultra doctors who actually wrote a book on physical control of the mind, Donald Bain's book Control of Kenny Jones

and her usage by the military. And we have Walter Bowert's pretty well known book Operation Mind Control, Peter Watson War on the Mind, Peter Shrag Mind Control. So all these books are pretty good. I've read several of these, but they're pretty not all of them, but pretty good

introductions to the notion of mind control. And when it comes to the issue of MPD and d ID multiple personality or disassociative identity disorder, this is supposed to be debated, but the consensus of a lot of the supposed academic literature is that it's not faked. Doctor Deirdre Barrett, writing in two thousand and one for Psychology Today, noted that they are not faking it. There are other references the

DSMV still, I've cited this in articles as well. Not that this proves anything per se, but it's interesting that you have these these establishment papers that still cite it as legitimate as a real thing. The DSMV citing Esterbrooks's famous hypnosis article, and it's still in the footnotes last time I checked a year or two ago, so still referenced. And doctor Colin Ross. You've probably heard him in various

on various podcast talks interviews. I've heard him on several different psychiatry and psychology podcasts, which I listened to quite a few of those here and there in my spare time. So this is not a subject that is completely new to me. I've also read other books just strictly from the psychiatry psychological standpoint, Switching Time by Bayer. We mentioned that in the interview that I did with Greg Crawlwood

at Hier said chats. So there's a lot of literature out there that you can find that that tends to back this up. And so that's part of the thesis that Dave's going to work for him, and I would agree. I think that there's I think it's real, and there's other books too that will deal with it, maybe from a more conspiratorial perspective. I've got some more poppy books in my library touch on mind control in NIM culture, but they're really kind of referencing the founding texts that

we've already mentioned. So, you know, as we noted from John Marx's book, there's not really we don't know everything about what happened in mkulture and supposedly Helms or one of the you know, CIA guys destroyed seven boxes and somebody only got a hold of seven boxes that weren't destroyed and all this kind of stuff. Who knows what's true in regard to that, But I think we can kind of trace out general ideas, and you know, some

of the documents are online. I've looked through some of those. Again, it's hard to tell, you know what you're looking at. But Freud apparently I was aware of this idea of a ritual abuse and sexual ritual abuse. You may have been involved in it. I don't know, but it's at least mentioned in Freud's work, and so again you've got these mad scientists. Basically, it's what I argued in the

John Mark's talk, who knows what you know? They're going to be doing anything and everything just because they are wicked dudes. There's a quote from Probe magazine which I've never heard of, but Dave cites this as a woman, Arlene Tyler, and she's writing about MK Ultra and she says in the fifties, the CIA was also looking for specially gifted subjects to study their dissociative states. So I'm guessing this means gifted children, although not sure this could

be induced and controlled through hypnosis and drugs. It reminds me of that Netflix series THEA, Remember that the OA. If you saw that, which was really good until that's stupid ending. I was really hooked on that show. Man. This is I've never seen anything like this, and then it just turned into Glee or something. It's like Glee meets Sandy Hook at the end. If you saw that, If you didn't see it, I can't say that I recommend it, just because it was such a stupid ending.

But if you if you are into endings, then you'll enjoy. If you're really into the first three fourths of shows, you'll like that show. Now, Blackmail, Orgy's Eyes, Wide Shot, stuff, Mart du Trouve affair, that all comes up. We've talked

about that many times. That's why I did you know my analysis of eywatch Shot, which is in my book, the first chapter actually, and it's interesting that Dave mentions the many times and many instances, many cases where you have a connection between the timing of events and various occult calendars. So Dave notes that I think there's something to that, and he mentioned some cults here at the beginning, where the Belgian elite and elite Roman Catholics in Belgium. Belgium. Yeah,

we know that. We talked about that many times as well, in relation again to the Dutreux affair and the character of Michael Nahoul, who was one of these guys who would I guess grab girls and supplied these girls for the elite, and there was like this pedo cult. And the guy who takes the fall is Dutreux, if I recall, right, he's the guy who's supposed to be in charge of

all this. But then you know, like the whole city of Belgium that were there's like a huge march at the capitol because it's people are so outraged over this and it was so widespread and so some of like a million people marched because this was all covered up. And then he talks about pedophile cults in Scotland. In Portugal, there was a big TV guy called mister TV I guess in Portugal and he was involved in this giant pedophile cult and there was this snuff films. Interestingly, we've

mentioned that in some cases being covered. Now Snopes tells you that there's no such thing. So that's supposed to be I guess, the definitive word on whether or not snuff films exist. But yeah, I mean, come on, the people have cameras and there are evil people. Why wouldn't they exist? Right? And what is this that we hear about on the internet at rule thirty four that if you can think of it, there's some kind of weird porn version, right, whatever you can think of there's there's

some weirdo that's into the porn version of that. Anyway, Dave mentions Lewis Carroll. We've talked about Lewis Carroll as well in his pedophilia, and it's how it kind of seems to be affiliated with Alice in Wonderland in some way, although I guess it's not onres certain, but you can argue maybe that you know, Alice tumbling down the rabbit hole and all of her experience his her trippy experiences.

I mean, maybe Lewis Carroll was like drugging girls or something, and you know, this is how he got the idea for this, right, So the disis dissociative states and young girls being traumatized, and maybe this is part of the meaning of Wonderland, right, uh, and and the weird connections with Disney. This becomes sort of the motif of Disney, right.

You know, it's hard to demonstrate. I only found one instance where the in in John Marx's book, there was a direct connection between Alice in Wonderland and MK Ultra and it was you and Cameron had been doing experiments on a certain woman. I don't remember her name, but she was in one of the psychiatric hospitals, and you know, he was like playing all these weird things and uh, psychic driving and torturing and electro shock and playing these

tapes and I guess movies. We don't really know, but he was probably strapping her down and making her watch, you know, Alison Wonderland or something. I don't know, her maybe playing it on Alice Wonderland on tape and seeing what that would do. And but she she's seems to think that this woman that he was, you know, dosing up with LSD and he's doing all this too, she thought that she was Alice in Wonderland. So that is the one instance I could find that connects Alison went

on directly to the actual programs of m culture. But I suppose the allegory maybe it's kind of like a wink wink thing amongst sickos that oh yeah, that's about you know, Lewis Carroll's into young girls, and that's what Alice wonder One is about. But I'm not sure. I don't know. But one of the theses that Dave lays out is that, as we said, there are unsolved murders, and a lot of these unsolved murders could be tacked

onto the suppose the serial killer. Right now, that's not to say that the serial killers aren't serial killers, but rather that they may have killed a few people and then it's added on to their hit count, right, all of these other names of people that they supposedly killed, right, or that the police department couldn't make sense of, or you know, old old cases that were unsolved. So then he moves on to talk about instances of you know,

pedo cults. And this is very prescient because of all the stuff that you know, has come out in the news in the last well thirteen years since they've published this book, right, I mean, we've seen so many instances of this. And he mentions the McMartin preschool case, which if you've seen, you know, Ted Gunderson's lecture, which has been going around on the internet for I don't know, probably twenty years since the beginning of the internet, but

I don't know. But Dave argues that, you know, there's a lot of questions in the mc martin case that we're never answered, so we could we there were tunnels under the school, right, So you know that was not a mythology, right, but I guess it's not definitive. And depending on what you think of Ted Gunnerson and his talk, you know who knows, but Dave seems to think that there's oddities in that case that leave it still open for question. And then he moves on to talk about

other instances of drugging and capturing and drugging children. And this reminded me of and this is a character named Frank Fuster, and this is just like the movie Prisoners. Now I'm not positive, but whoever made the movie Prisoners with Jake Jollen Hall and Wolverine whatever, I've gone blank? Oh, yeah, you know I'm talking about. I know who it is, but my mind is on Frank Fuster at the moment, which is a ridiculous name. But Frank would go into a trance and he would steal kids and just a

total sicko. But what was interesting is that he would use gatorade, urine and drugs. This is how he would drug his victims. And of course he touched them and molest of them and all this kind of stuff. And that is one of these cases where yeah, he says, a catatonic trance. Interesting, and I guess he was connected to working at Disney or something like that. This is Dave says. Even so, justice was not necessarily served, blah blah, blah.

Not even the Centaia priest who attended the trial with Foster's mother and uncle had the power to save him and our Veda, which is to say, the Walt Disney company paid six million dollars to seven of his victims,

so he was one of these weird pedo guys. Then Dave goes on to talk about routes of trafficking and how this might be connected to moving contraband, be it people or whatever, and he talks about I think he mentions Air America and a lot of I assumed everyone had seen this, but I guess it's not because I mentioned and people don't know what I'm talking about. But there's a movie about the CIA airline America. It's got mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr.

live in is so crazy. And you can have all these movies made about all this stuff, movies made about the serial Killers too, right, I mean again Prisoners, And I listed a bunch of movies that came to mind because I was thinking about comparing the Hollywood presentations with what Dave talks about. And I don't know, it's just so this is just such a bizarre genre. It's such a weird thing that that serial Killers pops up all

of a sudden. But we're going to see why that is as we get into Dave's book, so he moves on to talk about some other creeper instances of mind control facilities. This is something I've wondered about too, is these locations for where these programming and so you know such might go down. And I've wondered about this, and you know, Dave lists a lot of locales and places and potential things. Locations observed London, Germany, Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa,

Costa Rica, Europe, Pellets. There are areas in Palestine under various project names, and this is connected to the Finder's case. The Finder's case is this idea of where they were trafficking kids that were being kidnapped, and this was under a leaeve, the CIA's proprietary firm that was that was or excuse me, Air America is the proprietary firm, the proprietary airline, and the Finders were supposed to be looking for lost children. Well, it doesn't look like they were

looking for them. It looks like they were selling them because they had apparently machines, cash machines set up for wired transfers, you know, across across continents and countries. And this ties into Craig Spence and Larry King and the now famous Franklin cover up. So if you read the Franklin cover Up book then you know all about that. And I'm sure most people have probably seen the Discovery Channel documentary that has also been floating around the internet

for twenty years. You know about Franklin cover up. So we won't rehearse all that. But the next character is Henry Lee Lucas. And what's interesting about the Henry Le Lucas case is the connection to a mysterious cult, or so Henry claims. Now, again, we don't know if it's true. This is in Henry's whoever the biographer was, and I went and looked up the link to check it, and it actually it's it is there and he does say it in the whatever the authoris biography of Henry l.

Lucas's or his main biographer. It's called Hand of Death the Henry Lee Lucas story, and Hand of Death is the name of the cult that he claimed he was controlled by or a part of UH and it supposedly has connections to Texas Rangers. I don't know if that's true. I'm just saying that this is what Henry Lucas claimed. Now, again, it's hard to prove these things or know these things

because they are coming from crazy dudes. Right. So now it doesn't mean that it's false just because it comes from a crazy dude, right, But it's just again dubious

and hard to know. So you know, who knows. But there are all these oddities that come up, like why does this crazy dude get pardoned by w pardon pardon Henry le Lucas a good man, He's a good man, Mustard gashous Terrish, Right now, why would you pardon this guy if you're a w R. I mean, I don't know, that's bizarre, but you know, Henry claims that he was part of a cult that had connections, interestingly to a

ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Now I've been in a few arguments lately with people about Juarez because last summer I drove to California and on the way we stopped in El Paso Passo was on the border of Hoarees. And the reason this became interesting to me initially it was because of the movie Cecario. And if you watch Cecario, you'll see Emily Blunt get duped by the CIA guy played by I just I'm going blank on my actors today, goonies. I'm usually like spot on with my actors, but I've

been reading and talking all day. Josh Brolin is the CIA dude who dupes Emily Blunt. If you haven't seen Sircario, go watch that. That's relevant to this because you've got your contract killers, your hitmen, and that as well played by Beniccio. About Del Toro. So the Mexican death cult of MS thirteen, which I've talked about and looked into, and the religious worship of Santa and these gangs I think that's all real. And you have these longstanding stories

of the disappearing women. So in Noirez, all these women disappear, and I wonder what's going on. Nobody can figure it out. Well, there's being put into human trafskiing. Obviously, that's obvious. What's

going on? Come on? So Dave wrote about this a long time ago, and then so I went looked and there's all these articles and videos and documentaries that you can find on the cartels of ware Is and the Sineloa and all these different areas down there, and what car, what cartel control controls, what redoing, and on and on on. And when I was driving through there, I was looking actually at the government alert page, just out of curiosity, and they tell you don't go here. You can go here.

This one's okay, Oh don't go over here. I'm not saying the government is necessarily reliable, but I'm saying that I don't think that's fake. I mean, you know, there there are cartels that control these places. And when you go to El Paso, you can stand on the Ol Paso side and you can look over, which we did. I took pictures and whatares is? Just this long, never ending infinite plane up the hill, up this mountain with writing on it right something about I guess this is

like Jesus and Juarez or something I can't remember. But it's just all these like shanties right, very sad. I'm not trying to be cruel or dismissive or harsh or insensitive, but it's it's just really bad bad news. It's a lot of poverty, and it's obvious. So the people that trying to argue with me that it's not a shithole, they're just full of it. I've seen it. Don't pull your liberal crap with me, because I went and saw

it with my own eyes. I've been to Mexico too, by the way, I've been to Tijuana and so anyway, but what's interesting is that we start to get a picture and if you go read even liberal magazine, so it's as funny as I went told the liberal publications, like all of the pro open border ones, like I was reading The Atlantic and the you know, and then they're his the because I was I was curious because I wanted to see what the leftists and the feminists

would say about missing women in Juarez. Ooh, hmm. That's a bit of a conundrum for the leftist feminists because you don't want to be racist against the Hispanic and I guess the noble cartel people, right, nobody racist if you say that there are cartels, But you also don't want to ignore the plight of trafficked women. So that's kind of a tough one. So I think it was the Atlantic article that I read, pretty long one about the missing women. Well it just says, oh, yeah, this

is all true. There's always missing women. In the nineties or somewhere in that period, it was the most missing women in the world and all this stuff, and we got to do something about this, and there's no government to do anything because NAFTA. Now I think that's all true. NAFTA is a private corporate sweatshops that are put down there on purpose, and so you know, all the cops down there are like bought off right by all the cartels.

So I think that's how all this works. If you want to be liberal and debate me on that, and you think that there is no MS thirteen and there's no something what Day, and well, you know all these documentaries that are on YouTube, they're not all fake you know, have you been to Mexico? I have, right, So there's good and bad areas, and if you don't think there's bad areas, then you're just lying now. So it But was Henry Lee Lucas raised in a hand of the

Double Death Cult? I don't know, We don't know, but that is what he says. And there's a I forget the exact number, but there's a really high death count, right, and he it's hard to see that he was really behind all this. So Dave goes on to say, well, Henry is probably a portrait of the MK ultra type assassin that we're talking about, who could be used for

multiple reasons. And so there's this Office of Naval Intelligence O n I connection and the argument is that the O and I and NATO were interested in finding prisoners

that and psychos. And so this is how we get the connection to the Phoenix program, which is this idea out of Vietnam where William Colby is oh said, oh, in order to defeat all the commies in the Kong and Viet Kong, we've got to train ruthless psychopaths, right, And so this is where you get the idea, you know, like in Full Metal Jacket, right, this is the same idea there where the big goofy kind of retarded due to the beginning, just goes nuts because he just goes psycho, right,

And that's this is also what this is basically apocalypse now. This is Martin Sheen going crazy on acid, right, So that's kind of so that's that's what the Phoenix program

is there, you go apocalypse now now. So there's all these CIA scoundrels, Dan Mitrione and these characters that are connected to this Phoenix program until William Colby and the thesis here is that, oh well, it looks like it's These are probably least some of the guys who either came back from Vietnam and were traumatized and psychopaths, or you know, they were profile beforehand and put into Vietnam

to become the program psychopath. And by the way, if you go watch Full Metal Jacket, the Kubrick film, you'll notice the the William Baldwin Baldwin whatever, the Baldwin guy in it, I forget his name, but he he's the the psycho, right. And you have Joker, the main character who after the the first scene after the first act

when the big goofy retarded dude commits suicide. It moves into the Vietnam section of the story, and then Joker meets the Baldwin character Adam Baldwin excuse me, Adam Ball and the actor, and Adam Baldwin is just total total psycho man like he's like, he just loves the kill count.

He loves all the different ways to kill people. And then when at the climax of the film, if you recall, it's this little I don't know, thirteen fourteen year old Via Cong girl, and she's the one who's like secretly shooting them from from a building top right, and so they sneak into the building, they get it to the

top and Joker shoots her, but she's not dead. And so it's Joker and Adam Baldwin and the rest of the team are standing up there and they don't know what to do, and Adam Ball is like, just kill her. You know, he has absolutely no remorse killing this little kid, and Joker doesn't want to, but finally he just goes with it, and you know, he's obviously very troubled, you know, in having to do this, which any normal person would be.

I'm going to kill a thirteen year old. But this for the Baldwin guy, whatever his character's name is, you know, he loves it, right, So he's that one percent, that's the psychopath. And that's what Dave's getting at, is that these kind of people were profiled. And isn't that interesting that that's kind of what again, Kubrick appears to be telling us. See in so many ways, He's told us so many things. And this is where we move into

Berkwitz and the connections to other cults. The Satanic Family is what Burkwitz claims that he was connected to this larger Satanic network, Satanic Family, And this is where Marie Terry's book Ultimate Evil has a thesis that Manson and Berkovitz and some of these other guys Lucas, henryly Lucas, that they appear to be have been part of a larger national or international network of cults that were run by a super cult or just run by military and intelligence, right,

and could therefore be used for assassinations, for hits, for whatever, kidnapping and so forth. Then he talks about, then this is one I'd never heard of, the Monster of Florence. I've read you know, several books, probably ten books on occult crimes and so forth. I'd never heard of the Monster of Florence. And this is a dude in a circle of elite guys and maybe women too in Italy

in the period of the seventies and eighties. In two thousand and two, I've been like maybe into the two thousands, you know, two thousand and two, the Monster of Florence was in the news again. Yeah, satanic rites. According to the Sunday Herald, Eyes wide shut parties. This is page eighty four Day's book. The police are involved, there's orgies, they've got cameras, they've got torture racks. They are blackmailing people. That was what was going on. So this is the

upper level Italian Italian elites. So we're starting to see patterns here. This is going on everywhere, like all the countries. These elites are into just the grossest stuff. And then you realize, oh, a big part of it is blackmailing people. Right, this is what you do. Get photographic evidence, You've got film evidence of of these people doing outrageous stuff, and

then you can control them that way. Now that also makes me think of and I haven't I've looked into this a little bit, but I haven't done a whole lot of research. But it's supposed to be partly true. This story that is the Guy Ritchie movie Bank Job, And if you remember, if you haven't seen that, I recommend it not you know, I don't Usually I'm not a big fan of Jason. I don't have any problem with Jason Stathum. It's just I'm not really into like

the standard action movies. But Bank Job is a really good Jason Stathum movie. Killer Elit's really good too, by the way. But in bank Job, if you recall, I'm not going to spoil the in for you, but I six hires like the best bank thieves on the down load, and they hire them to steal blackmail evidence of one of them nobility or the royal princess or something like that. I think somebody royal who was doing some nasty orgy

stuff and I wouldn't be president and true. And one of the guys who had the blackmail was one of these like not Michael, not Malcolm X, but I think they call him micah X or something ridiculous, not mikeah X. That's the guy that was the guy who killed people supposedly in Denver. One of these ex guys like a black rights black nationalist guy, so and so X, who, by the way, was a real guy. I think I can't remember who it's based on, but anyway, go watch

Bank Jobs. It's a pretty good movie. So chapter nine we go to Rancho Diablo, which is more on the Henry Lee Lucas Thayne because henryly Lucas talked about the connections to satanant cult and Juarez, which presumably would tie into MS thirteen and the Santam whate And in chapter nine Dave talks about a different cult which I had heard of, but I didn't know much about this, so

this was also new to me. Around nineteen eighty nine, you had the Matta Moros cult and they were just south of Brownsville, Texas, and Henry Lucas had a spiritual advisor from the Matamorros cult. Unbelievable Clemmy Schroeder identified as Henry's spiritual advisor, and I guess she had some connection to the Matamoros cult, but Henry's partner Otis Toole claimed that it was not the specific ranch, not the same one, but that there were interconnected operations all along the Texas

Mexico border. Now that's crazy anyway. So the Matamoros cult was headed by connected to Okay, connected to a drug baron named Ilio Hernandez Rivera, and obviously of course they bought off cops. Some of them were into it's like a witchcraft cult, just really crazy stuff. And they were first exposed in nineteen eighty nine for a series of brutal murders that included beheadings, and Dave says that they were involved in not just murder but also drug trafficking.

And the pipeline went from Matamorros, from the Matamor's cult south of Brownsville to the mob in Chicago. Interesting the let's see who's the guy in this? The high Priestess Sarah Aldretti displayed what was described as split personality. She clearly had a dual personality like many of the other occultists. Aldrette had married on Halloween nineteen eighty three. She had

links to the Hernandez drug family. Blah blah blah. The Matamoras cult was part of a massive hemisphere wide drug trafficking network that went all the way from Roswell, Texas to top Chicago mafia. I did not know when hear that. That was all new to me. So then he talks about NAFTA and the missing women in Juarez as I mentioned, And the reason for NAFTA and Mexico was so that there would be sweatshops tech tax free sweatshops, right, free market,

isn't it libertarian? So there's deep state connections of course, to these cults, one guy named Dracula, one cult guy led by Jesus Guardaldo Marquez known as Eddracola and Dave Notes of court, which should be obvious that these Mexican colts and the drug trafficking appeared to have been tied to the then president of Mexico. Not surprising. So there's a tie in between the narco cults and Satanism that

is interesting and I've wondered about that. Why do you see this weird connection between MS thirteen and these Santa Ria cults and you know sent them whatte with And I guess it's just because colts obviously, you know, it's a it's an natural affinity between the realm of mind control and MK ultra sex slaves. I mean, this is, like I guess should be obvious why those two worlds are connected. There's also if you this chapter two. I'm

not sure. I don't want to recommend this movie, but it reminds me of the Nicholas Cage movie eight millimeter, which I don't know. I guess it's any worse than Video Drome. If you've seen David Cronenberg's Video Drome, it's kind of the same same idea, but a lot more weird than the Nicholas Cage movie. But what Dave talks about in chapter nine with with some of the usage of military base and different ranches and filming stuff and

human trafficking and oh, it's just awful stuff. But but tell me that then Nicholas Cage movie is so ridiculous that it just, like, I don't know, the silliness of Nicholas Cage, the entertaining aspects of Nicholas Cage sort of dull the uh soften the blow of the harshness of the topic. I guess you could say, whereas I guess if you watch video Drome, it's just weird. I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad movie. It's illustrative, but the only reason I haven't done an analysis yet a

video drome is because I'm not. I mean, I own it, I have the DVD, seeing it probably five times. I'm still not one hundred percent sure I know what David Cronenberg's trying to say in that movie. We definitely live in the video drome that much, but I don't know what he's talking about. Anyway, Lucas's cases don't fit his profile. And this is an interesting point that comes up in a lot of the serial killer stuff here that Dave

says might suggest involved more killers. And this is the idea of totally different styles of murder, like bludgeoning and then beheading and then strangling. And so when it's this sort of randomness, yeah, it could be that the killer was just you know, super crafty and trying to outsmart the cops. But it also could be that these are just different people, different murders, different cults, different groups, or all of them working together. So another interesting fact is

the California, Texas, Florida connection. Why is it so many of these sperial killers are drawn to live in, grow up, or end up in terrorise or terrorized these three states. Now, I mean, obviously other states come up in different cases, but these really seem to be a hotbed, and Dave says, well, it's because these are areas of trafficking out of Mexico, and that makes sense. The new terror fear begins. This

is interesting, he says with Charles Whitman. And this is the guy who you know, climbs up in the tower at University of Texas and he starts sniping people. Now, this guy too, was like a former intelligence dude or the Texas Sniper Naval Enlisted Science Education Program any SEP was an intelligence entity. And from there he came back, went up the tower at the University of Texas Austin and just started sniping. And I forget what his body

count is, twenty three or thirty. And this kind of spawns the idea that you're not safe anywhere, you know what I mean, that anywhere you go out in town travel, I mean, there's just serial killers. Under every rock, there's a serial killer and you know, waiting to snipe you from or from atop every tower. Right now, that's not true, but the public began to get this impression, and so you kind of get the thesis. Well, maybe there's more

going on. Maybe, you know, Dave's proposing the possibilities, He said many later interviews that you know, the serial killer thing didn't just serve the purposes of contract killings or professional hits or whatever, but it also might have served a longer, larger social engineering dynamic that would result in atomization and alienation, people not letting their kids go out and play and this kind of stuff. And then from there, you know, it kind of they just die away, Like

we don't where are all the serial killers? Last one I can even think of hearing about. And that's excluding you know, the normal murders in the news or whatever. But the BTK killer, right, remember the BTK killer when he had some previous military intelligence pedigree. That was when was BTK you know what I mean? Like that's early mid two thousands. So we've had like one serial killer since Dahmer. I guess, like, who was the last famous serial killer that everybody heard of. We're not going to

count oj here. I don't think he counts, but you know, popular so called serial killers, as this so called profile goes, which Dave says is also kind of bogus. There's not really a profile that's kind of a Hollywood thing. But isn't it interesting? This is what everybody sees, you know, is again through the lens of Hollywood. Now he talks

about this many times. Hollywood has given us the understanding of terror and the terrorists, right, not facts, not actual real world debates and discussions and statistics of you know, how likely you are to be killed by terrorists, which is less likely than a beasting. And the same with serial killers, right. I mean, if you watch movies, which obviously I have and you have, you know, if we were to just take the movie world at face value, you would think half of the population are terrorists and

serial killers. They're just everywhere. This is just simply not true, you know what I mean, Like, there's let's just assume that everything we're told about a Jeffrey Dahmer. Okay, let's just assume that that's real. Well, there's only one Jeffrey Dahmer in what a decade? Right, But when the media profs this stuff up, and I think John John Adams has talked about this, this uh, this idea that the media can create the impression that something is everywhere and

a lot more prevalent than it actually is. And that's a very powerful tool of social engineering, is that you know, the media has this ability to to give us the impression that there's all these terrorists, there's all these killers everywhere. It's just it's just madness and mayhem everywhere. And that's just not true. Right, Like the most crime ridden cities, you know, like Chicago or Memphis or Houston, Uh, you know, they have if you look up the stats, they're not

it's not murders every night. You know, maybe in Chicago there's a murder every night. You know, what do they have like three, four or five hundred murders a year. That's a lot of murders. But I'm saying, you know, it's not like if I drive one hour in any direction from where I live, for example, there might be one murder a year, you know, within a I don't know,

one hundred mile span of where I live. So you know, it's really confined to certain areas that this kind of stuff happens, and it's gang and drug stuff, and then sometimes there's the psycho. Sometimes there's the guy that loses it, you know, sometimes there's the cult this kind of stuff. But this stuff is not it's not every day. So we can't let the media impress upon us unrealistic dangers,

but that's really what they're there for. It's the real terrorists are the media, I've said for a long time. So then he goes on to talk about the alteration and culture with Anton Levy and how Tom Levey had you know, this kind of intelligence type connections, and you know, this is really touched on, well, it's dealt with in more detail in the other book. Weird scenes inside the Canyon where he focuses on the intelligence propping up and support for the Laurel Canyon scene, which was the real

birthplace of the hippie movement according to Todave McGowan. And we get some of the repeated stuff that was new, you know when this book came out two thousand and four to readers probably, but to us we all know about al Ron Hubbard, and we all know about Crowley and Hubbard, you know, being part of the part of scientology or just getting me part of the OTO and Crowley's group before he went into starting his own cult.

So we're not going to rehearse all that. But there's these really weird connections between what the issue of the zodiac and Day's idea is that probably multiple people in the case of the Zodiac, and these were done on explicitly on you know, cult calendar holidays like Lamas and Volpurgis Night and all that stuff. But the codes appear to have had an actual cryptographic reference that would have been known to people, probably in the Office of Naval Intelligence.

So that would suggest some kind of militarized former military, you know, contract killers this kind of thing. And citywide homicides reached twenty nine and four days, I believe under the Zodiac, and the Zodiac interestingly gets immediately tied up with Hollywood. Roman Polanski decides that he's going to do his own investigation of the Zodiac killing and he hires psychic Peter Herkos. This is crazy. I'd never heard this,

and the events were held well. Herkos was involved in organizing a black Arts festival Halloween nineteen sixty nine with Timothy Larry and Anton Leavay. That's a new one to me anyway. So Dave argues that the military boot that was supposed to be part of the evidence of who the Zodiac guy was was issued to naval soldier personnel, so that would suggest again military really hits, which that makes sense. I mean, there was a call in show

where supposedly the Zodiac called in. But who knows. I mean, this could just be people were just making this stuff. I think even that movie with Robert Downey Jr. And Jake Jillenhall if you were and Mark Ruffalo, if you remember this, what's pretty good movie. If you watch Zodiac when it really gets popular, there was you know, people were like people were just saying that they knew who

the Zodiac was, like all these people. So this guy would probably just wanted ratings, you know, like like, oh, the Zodiac is gonna call in. He wrote a letter to our TV show. Yeah right, Santa Cruz starts having a lot of deaths and this is supposed to be connected to This is the seventies, late sixties, early seventies connected to Zodiac. And what's interesting about this is that Santa Cruz so that they were finding a lot of dead animals too. So there's this explosion of satanism and

occultism and ritual sacrifice and here's a new detail. The notion of the Age of Aquarius was popularized by San Francisco groups like the Diggers who occupied the aforementioned Devil House, and by publications like San Francisco's Oracle. No one played a greater role in popularizing the Age of Aquarius than the Oracle Magazine's Gavin Arthur. Interestingly, Arthur's full name was Chester Alan Arthur, and he was the great grandson of

President Chester Arthur. He predicted, supposedly JFK's assassination and before he was even elected. However, some attribute this to clairvoyance, while it is much more likely that he had fore knowledge. Interesting. Yes, just like there was a movie called Manchurian Candidate where a mind control Patsy attempts to assassinate presidential candidate before JFK was assassinated. Yes, go watch John Frankenheimer's mentoring Candidate. So let's see here, moving on to the next section. Married.

war and all this kind of stuff. And if you watch that video of you go back, and it's about thirty forty minutes, you'll see that there's there's a clip in there where Manson goes on and on about global warming and climate change. So you know, this guy is obviously some kind of total tool. I mean, he's not even coherent enough to do anything other than I guess

pair it back whatever. I mean, the guy's just totally insane. Obviously, But the thesis, of course of Dave McGowan and others is that he's these guys were used and they've been used by larger networks and so forth, and that as Dave thinks, there may be instead of mafia the way we used to think of various crime families and so forth, that now it's kind of been replaced by this satanic network of cultists, and there's not so much these big

crime families that we you know, the godfather in this constant, it's still the mafia model, but it's just a different kind of face that's being used now. We mentioned Henry Lee Lucas, and we mentioned now there's also the case of when we mentioned Zodiac and the oddities there, there's also the case of Arlest Perry. And Arlest Perry was the young girl who was murdered at college and she had Masonic imagery drawn upon her body, carved into her the square and compass, and her legs were put into

a square and compass formation. And yeah, I think a candle had been inserted into her vagina from the altar. And this had happened that this murder was done on a church grounds inside the chapel at Stanford Memorial Church at Stanford University. So assuming that this story is true,

then this would be another case of ritual murder. There's a cult compound that the Mansons had, and Dave spends a whole lengthy chapter on Manson and all the weird Hollywood people hanging out with Manson and connections to the Esslon Institute, which we've talked about many times, where in Monterey you have this big New Age un type cult compound that was connected to Timothy Leary and Elvis Huxley and all these characters, and that they also ran a

Himalayan academy that had direct ties to Charles Manson as well. So what's funny about the Manson thing is that he doesn't fit the serial killer profile because he didn't actually kill anybody. So the story, the mainstream story we're supposed to accept, is that Manson brainwashed you know, these followers, these groupies, and he was into this apocalyptic, you know,

processed church stuff. Basically, we're just gonna cut through all the bullshit and say that this was all run by something even bigger, is the main point, some bigger cult again, just like Berkowitz and others, And this is why we have these kind of handler characters like Timothy Leary, these popularizers who are going around promoting the LSD. And Dave dives into that with the character of Owlsley, another one of these creators and promoters of LSD in Laurel Weird

Scenes inside Laurel Canyon. He goes into a lot of depth there and how many of these people were all connected to the CIA. So a lot of these are drug hits. And we have the Eyesweite shut Stall parties with the Manson crew as well. I think Dennis Hopper mentioned this going on. Da've discusses this on pages one forty three, and that bears out other writers who've written

on this. Peter Lavenda and Sinister Force's trilogy discusses the same claims the same topics, and so really what we have with Manson is a character who I think, as we said, what military prison the giant prison complex is also tied into military complex, and that's also tied into

the psychiatric complex. And what happens is is that these characters are profiled and spotted and then used for different purposes, maybe a contract killing, as we said, maybe to kidnap kids or people for human trafficking, and what we see pretty consistently is that we can raise questions about a lot of the psychiatric institutions and rehab centers as possible programming locales. And that's even come up in pop fiction.

If you watched True Detective season two, that seems to hint at the Esslin Institute as well as Thomas Pincheon's Inherent Vice with the film version, as well with Joaquin Phoenix. You know, both of these seem to show this high level mind control type stuff and these shadowy CIA type figures in the background. So we always see these these contradictions pop up, and this is what is noted here

by Dave. On page one, he says it defies explanation that men such as Manson or Jim Jones or David Koresh have all stumbled upon the secret of brainwashing and mind controlling their followers, but the CIA does not have this ability. So the mainstream story is a flat out contradiction because they always say that these cult leaders and serial killers and whoever, that they have all these powers

of mind control and brainwashing. But at the same time, the establishment says that the CIA was never successful and did not really perfect these mind control, brainwashing programs. So again, obviously that's a bunch of blooney. So twenty four people were killed in the nineteen seventies by we're told by insane asylum people that had been released from the Vacaville facility. Now,

why would they release all these nutcases from Vaukaville. Well, probably as part of this larger American domestic version of the Phoenix program. And what he talks about in the last sections of the book is that the thesis is that the psychological warfare pattern that was tested in Vietnam on the viet Cong, the whole point of it was just to scare the crap out of the viet Cong

and make them lose morale and break their will. And that is exactly what makes perfect sense in terms of understanding that program in terms of the US, in terms of American domestic experience over this several decades of what is supposed to be the all the serial killers everywhere,

so we get more characters like Herb Mullin. This is a guy who apparently went into had multiple personalities, and he went into the Marines and was going to be a killer, and he went into this kind of an assassination type program, and this is reminiscent of full Metal Jacket. This guy and apparently he went to some locale in Maui, Hawaii, which is reported to be one of these facilities where

they train assassins. And if this sounds too far vetched, remember in the eighties and prior to that, we had the whole story of the Latin American death squads, right where the CIA set up these training camps for death squads, which would by extension, also be connected to the Phoenix program. Right, this idea of training professional assassins and basically psychos who because their psychos lose their mind eventually. Right. So now you might say, well, but I thought you said that

there were no there weren't programmed assassins. Now that's some people's view, that's not my view. What I always said was that there are both. They did all these programs, and they ran all these tests during these periods right from the forties and the fifties sixties. And this includes all the psychiatric stuff, all the hypnosis, all the drug testing, basically what we call him kildra, all of that was done, and it eventually morphs into electronic implants and bio warfare DARPA. Right,

this is the last chapter of John Marx's book. So that's all an outworking of that, and it's really just controlling the human domain. All right. We remember this program that was mentioned in connection to Jade Helm a couple of years ago. Really that's the same idea of what in Culture was about, where the totality of human experience, which is not just the individual psyche, but also the

collective collective sociology, collective psyche as well. So the argument then would be that what happens is when you study the individual cases of these different characters, these different psychos, and how to entrain them and depattern them and then reprogram and so forth the stuff that you and Cameron was doing, that leads to various ideas of what you could do to the mass psyche. And that's the role that mass media plays. And so that's my view of it.

My view of it is that they did all these situations with actual guys and actual people, and hence Doug Valentine's book Phoenix Program and then or in the Latin American desk squads and all this kind of stuff, and then they what was more useful than you know, just a contract killer or some crazy guy that you could get to kidnap people or whatever they because that's a million, you know, millions and millions of dollars involved in orgon

harvesting and human trafficking. Right, So, but all of that data, that information, all the studies that were done, could then be used for a large scale social engineering. And you say, well, who would be interested in that? Well, think about the Rand Corporation, right, the Rand Corporation would be interested in taking all that data, collating it and figuring out, well, how could we use this for the so called war

and terror? You see, So the same ideas of basically inducing threat and terrorizing the public with Cold War and serial killers and assassins. And by the way, the serial killer stuff actually ties well with the Cold War assassins stuff, and the right because of Sir and sirhan Oh, we're supposed to believe he was this you know, trained occultist assassin and he went after RFK and oh Lee Harvey Oswald.

He's a programmed assassin that the Soviets scent, right according to the mainstream story I'm saying, right, And so this is well, this is all a lot of Boloney obviously, and I doubt that we'll ever really know the full story of either of those cases, but I can guarantee you that what we're told in the official story is not true and anyway, so what we're starting to see is the patterns of certain locations, like the Vaucaville facility,

which appears to be you know, involved very heavily in this. According to Dave's argument, we're seeing the pattern of a lot of these guys who are very messed up, are into necrophilia, and then they they tend to have alternate personas, they tend to have even perhaps demonic issues on page one fifty seven. Now, it's not all secret DARPA Voice

to Skull technology, which some people will say. Who've had some people commenting on the introductory video that I made saying, oh, this is stupid, there's no none of this is real. I don't know what planet you guys are from, but I mean, have you ever been around crazy people? I have? And I'm talking about people who, you know, I have

had serious psychological problems. I've had them in my family, not me, but family members who have been prescribed as serious psychoactive drugs, who've been on these for a long time. I've had friends on these who go nuts try to commit suicide. There. This is not all fake. And if you honestly, literally think that it is, I don't know what planet you live on or where you're from. I mean, I've seen people in my family try to kill themselves from these kinds of drugs. So I'm just speaking here

of like the psychiatric you know, antidepressant type stuff. And you know, in my younger days, when you be around people who are on drugs and partying and whatnot, and you just see people go nuts and something else takes over. And if you think that that's all fake, well, number one, that's a mental problem on your part. It's not all fake. If you think that it's merely something random or chaotic, and you don't think that the establishment has studied the stuff,

well then you're just naive. But you know, we think of movies that tie into this kind of stuff, which is interesting because Natural Born Killers, you know, Quentin Tarantino Oliver Stone film that actually deals with this notion. It points out the absurdity of how the mainstream media actually makes the serial killers into stars. And now that was done on purpose, that was not just ratings and sensationalism, but also, as I said, to really prop up the

mythology of the serial killer. Another pattern that Dave notices is what he claims that I'd never heard of this, but he says that there's this idea in training people to be killers or assassins of blooding, and that it's the same idea that you know that pemps use when they break people. When pimps break, they hose blooding is the idea of traumatizing a person who might be a

future assassin early on through some experience of the gruesome. Right, So maybe they work at a morgue and they're constantly seeing cadavers, or they you know, like the stories that we hear about traumatized youth that they have their dog, you know, maybe they're in a cult and the cult kills their dog in front of them and this traumatizes them when they're a kid. I think this is true. I know somebody who had something very traumatic happened to

them when they were very young. In this case, it was accidental when they were about four, and as a result, they have had very serious problems with lack of empathy. And I guess you might consider it like mild psychopathy as a result of a youth traumatization, and I would I think that it's you know, the prevailing literature that I've read on this tends to say, oh, well, it's a defense mechanism that the brain and acts, and I think that makes sense. That seems to line up with

my experience. But Dave goes back into mentioning some of the guys that we've touched on many times. You've studied altars and all this stuff with the doctor Esterbrooks and his hypnosis work, and people that have studied a d ID and MPD, and he mentions the false Memory Syndrome foundation again as the primary characters who deny ritual abuse, and they are of course connected to the CIA, very shady characters. Colin Ross has a lot of information on

this that's really good critiquing these characters. He mentioned the Simionese Liberation operation as some kind of sciop, either a CIA sy op research or something kind of a large scale psychological warfare operation that really got the SWAT team stuff going, the SLA incident and the Charles Whittemore incident at the University of Texas. If I recall or the instances he lists as really kicking off the call for local police departments to be completely militarized and in some

degree federalized and to start having these swat teams. Then we move on to and also necrophilia is interesting as a consistent pattern, which is interesting because there's this weird obsession with sex and death that probably is what made these guys profiled at a younger age. And this is really what the whole institutional system, medical system that all that it kind of exists to education system, right to find these kinds of psycho freak weirdos again who can

be used. So this goes on with you know, maybe these guys were sent to maybe they're so they're abused, and then they're known for necrophilia or some kind of weird practice like this, and then maybe they're sent to an institution to be you know, counseled or whatever. And then this gets flagged. Right, so, oh, here here's the guy we found one. He likes gay sex, he likes

killing animals, he likes necrophilia. He could be very useful, right, this kind of idea to the dark side of the deep state, and this brings in the character John Wayne Gacy and John Wayne Gacy is was connected to local police. He was like this adjunct cop and he was using that cop you know status to get access, I guess you could say, and cover to the local gay boys and bring them in and uh, you know, raped them

and tortured them and killed them. And then what we have is the the weird instance of him meeting with the a as a Democratic Party dude, very well connected apparently in the Chicago area. If I recall, there's a lot of details here. It's sometimes it's difficult to recall every one of these details as to you know, who's

in where and what doing what. But gay Cy was a very prominent j C. And so his connections to the j c's, which is one of these local, you know, rotary club club type things that helped him have cover, as well as these connections to the police. And apparently and this was actually in the movie presentation too. There's a TV movie with Brian Denahey playing Gaysey that is worth watching. It's not a great movie, but it's like four hours long, but kind of roughly follows the arguments

that Dave makes, and that shows. What it doesn't show is that Gaysey claimed to have an alternate personality named Jack Hanley who would take him over and commit the killings, and that there possibly were other police involved in that. This is why it was covered up for so long, right, So it wasn't just in other words, it might have been a situation where there was a prostitution ring of boys and drugs, and maybe local officials were involved, including Gaycy,

and so this is why it's covered up. And then anytime there was a threat of somebody ratting or trying to expose it, that would then lead to the murder.

You see, that's a possibility, and that's not it's kind of hinted at in the movie if you watch the Henry Portrait of a Killer movie from I don't know, like nineteen ninety or somewhere in there, and it's hinted at that the higher ups, like the police chief and these other guys in you know, the big city area, they were covering it up or they were trying to

squash the investigation of the local police. So interesting connections to investigations done by the private investigator, the famous Hollywood private investigator, Anthony Pelicano. And Pelicano was I'm trying to remember how he says he was connected to Gaysey. Following the disappearance of one of Gasey's employees, Greg Godsnick Godzick, Gaysey was not questioned by police. Oddzig's frustrated parents turned to help to Anthony Okay there so they went to

Anthony Pelicano. Anthony Pelicano never checked out Gaysey and later claimed that he had never been given this name. Godzig was a portly seen very much alive after his reported abduction, as was one other victim of Gaysey, John Sayzick, and one of the bizarre coincidences that seems to surround many serial killer cases, the Godsdick home was burglarized the night before the story of John Wayne Gacy's arrest hit the airwaves.

The family of victim Rick Johnson was convinced that Rick was abducted by Sun Young Moon in the Unification Church, an organization heavily steeped in my control and with connections to South Korea's CIA or the k CIA, which was set up by the CIA. So that's interesting because yeah, the Moon the Moonies have these connections to the Bush family, and then you know it's obviously a mind control CIA type thing, and then we get to Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy of course has these weird fetishists and he is

connected to He was a young GOP, rising young GOP. Now, excuse me, Ted Bundy is supporting Nelson Rockefeller, as we mentioned. Excuse me, I'm thinking of Dahmer, but both of them are rising GOP guys. Right, skulls were found in the case of Ted, and this is where the FBI comes in and sets up the Ted squad, and this is really kicking off this FBI pattern of or promotion of looking for this serial killer. And Ted Bundy says, Oh, there's other in on this, of course, but they're not

ever explained or mentioned. No photos were apparently allowed in the prosecution of Ted, which is interesting because Dave argues that that might have implicated other police, other officials who were probably involved with Ted, but we don't know. California, Texas, Florida, this is the standard areas of the serial killers, and then of course Chicago, I guess as well. These are

of course known drug and mob areas. So another one of these characters that pops up serial killer, sicko, pedo, self mutilation, GEKT, What is this guy's name Robin Gekt, and he is a multiple personality guy who was probably abused, and he was into beastiality, which, by the way, you can see now that the promotion of bestiality which is happening in university sects, shops on campuses, by the way, they're promoting bestiality. You can find those articles online at

Campus Reform and other sites. You can see that the promotion of bestiality, which I believe Adorno talked about, this is all towards the depersonalization and dehumanization of society. So they the serial killer stuff is very close to that Frankfurt School type toxic culture stuff because the promotion of the whole serial killer mythos and ethos as we just saw this checking the video clip with Ben Swann talking

about how she wants to marry Manson. Obviously she's wanting to make money from it because she's going to, you know, put his remains in a on display or whatever. But what's interesting is that the well, in the case of Ghekt, for example, we have another instance of of Satanism. And so the idea here is that Ghekt may have been connected to the Ripper Crew another one of these outfits

that's famous for killing a lot of people. Another character of the Sunset Stripped Murder was maybe Lieutenant Franklin Clark, who's give birth to Doug Clark. Uh, and another series of you know, Doug Clark. Another bunch of sickos, and it just goes on and on on. I mean that it's kind of gross to continue talking about all these

guys and there they're practices. But what's funny is that they get sent to a lot of times these military and medical facilities because of their you know, part of the v A or whatever, because they're former military guys, which could suggest you know, programming and whatnot, and that that also could suggest the Phoenix program, which Dave McGowan mentions in the case of Richard Ramirez, the Nights Talker.

And what's interesting about Ramirez is that there's all this oblivious, you know, occult black magic stuff that was even in the mainstream news, but it's just kind of been oh, well, that's just you know the proclivities of him as an individual,

eccentric weirdo. Well why does it keep popping up? And could it suggest you know more, I mean, maybe the forty deaths attributed to I guess Ramirez, maybe he wasn't the only one doing that, right, And I mean, do you really expect people in some SCO cult not to frame some idiot in their cult? Right, So if they find like if you have a cult and you know you're doing something like drug trafficking or human trafficking, the same same as the situation with the that I mentioned

with gay Cy and the JCS and the cops. Right, what do you what are you going to do? Like you understand criminology, you know how to get away with things. So what might you do? Well, you might find some dupe who gets interested in your cult and you realize, man, this dude is f and nuts, right, you know he was probably abused. Maybe you have cult members that know about him, family members, you know they know about Oh

this is my cousin Richard. He's a total nutcase, right, And this was the case and that with Richard Ramirez was his uncle or somebody knew about him, and so he kind of wrote roped him into this network. And then you get him and you use him for whatever your purposes are. And then if it comes up that oh uh, you know he's caught or he screws botched job,

or he screws something up. Well, then he takes the heat for all the killing, right, And meanwhile you've been using him and you've been in doctrineing him and telling him that, oh, you know, you're the enemy of our cult is x y Z and he's going to rat us out or for whatever. So you know what you do these people, because they're nuts, they don't have no idea what's going on. They probably do have altars, right, so they they serve a purpose, is what I'm trying

to say. And if you if people in the establishment know all this, then if the cult or the group or whatever has members in the establishment, then that's how these things, if you know, could be covered up. Now, another one of these characters who he mentioned some of the guys who were into collecting body parts of the collector,

this type of gross stuff the Collector. I didn't realize this because but I've read John Fowls's famous novel, which if you do grad studies in literature, it'll be on a list that you're supposed to read The Magas, and I read the Vegas, and I've mentioned it in my book, and you know this is because it suggests the idea of very rich people being able to engineer large scale

psy ops. And John Fowls apparently wrote another book though, called The Collector, which is about some psycho who likes to collect things, or he doesn't just collect butterflies and you know, staple them to a corkboard or something. He collects. He starts with that, and then he I guess, he starts collecting body parts. And so this what's this guy's name?

It's crazy. First one, Gary Heydnik, is the next person in Gary is connected to this is one of the downsides of Day's book is that it kind of it goes through so much information that I kind of get lost in who's who. So then there's like these other guys, Leonard Lake and Charles ing Ing, which I guess is

like Filipino or something. But these guys were filming bondage porn and then apparently got into snuff films, and the idea was that, oh, they were being used by a larger network, and I think that then the Hydnik character was also had multiple personalities, and then we come to the next guy, Bobby Burdella. Bobby Burdella was a military guy and he got into I think I can't remember

if he's maybe he wasn't military. Apparently he was just a hood and then he got into body parts and cannibalism, sort of eating people, and he set up a house of horrors and Bobby Burdella, let's see, okay, so who comes the CIA people come in to try to solve this case. Yeah, Bobby Burdella was kind of doing the same thing as Gacy, except he was grabbing boys, drugging them and raping them and torturing them, and supposedly one

of them got away. And then we've got Leonard Lake, Charles ng Or drugging people and doing the same thing. And then Heraldo if you remember his videos and his report which I've watched, those those are interesting where they covered the occult crimes in late eighties early nineties, satanic panic stuff, and Heroldo actually brings up some of the

esoteric and occult stuff in relationship to Bobby Bardella. And then two people want the CIA guy, Troy Cole and Michael Akino come on Heraldo and debunk it and say, no, none of that exists, that there's no such thing, which is preposterous. But this is what Dave says. So another

interesting thing that I never heard. Dave says that the that Roy Rayden of the Cotton Club murder, this is direct connect to Hollywood, was killed by a ritual execution shot repealing the head by three of magazine publisher Larry Flint's former bodyguards, and one of them was Charles Manson associate Bill Mintzer. So here you have the connection to high level porn, the Cotton Club murders. And then yeah,

Gary Heidnik, as I said, so he's a vet. And what's interesting about him is that he becomes this United Church of God, some church of the of the ministers of some weird Protestant evangelical sect, and that he sets up as his he's the minister of a bishop, and he sets up torture dungeons, and he starts he works at some mental health facility, and he starts kidnapping retarded black women, and he tortures him in the dungeon. And

Gary Dave claims was used in military LSD experiments. This is pages two fifty eight, two fifteen nine, And this was at a site in Germany. And it's the same locale that other supposed killers were paramilitary guys were trained, we're told. So interesting. Now, then we come to Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer gets the connection. He has the weird connections

to high level GOP people when he's young. So his senior class trip, Jeffrey Dahmer was somehow able to make a call on a payphone and he gets his entire senior class, a VIP tour of Walter Mondale's office and a visit by prominent writer Art Buchwald. How would this aspiring young GOP serial killer boy have such impressive, impressive contacts in Washington has never been explained. And here we come again with the gay bars and the gay guys

and the necrophilia. And there are stories, at least there's reports of Dahmer was possessed and people thought he had he was actually possessed, and that he had these alternate personas and he would watch movies like Actresses to Over and whatever, and he would like rock back and forth watching them, and he was into eating the dead. And the only thing that the media had a tendency to talk about was a dabbling in Satanism, but Dave says that it was more than a dabbling, but they just

covered this up. And next character, Herb Baumeister, another young GOP Navy connected kid, has all the same ritual abuse case of connections to you know, military programs of killers and so forth. And so the thesis again, we see the patterns that are here there should be pretty obvious.

But I guess if you're you know, if your mainstream media and you don't know any of this stuff, and you think that there's no such thing as alters in d ID and MPD, and if you don't believe in evil, then you're going to be already preconditioned to not think

that the stuff is real. And what you do, except is reel, is going to be conditioned by what you've seen in pop culture in the movies, which what happens in the movies is that they'll take some of the real stuff and then they'll like focus and draw the attention over to away from the occult stuff at times to just the lone crazy guy, or they don't raise

the questions about connections to you know, high up level officials. This, by the way, was explained excuse me was detailed in the first season of True Detective, where they this weird a redneck inbred family or cousins of the family. They take the hit, the fall, and meanwhile the you know, very wealthy, well connected sech goes don't get in trouble. That's mentioned at the end of season one of True Detective, which I do recommend, by the way, Now, the profilers

and the patsies. In this concluding section, Dave makes the argument that, look, this was basically a lot of funding ror. The whole serial killer phenomenon was great for Hollywood box office sales, book sales, It was the source of a lot of police bureau you know, getting funding, f FBIO getting funding. And really what it was was a larger psychological warfare operations. And it's perfectly mirrored in Phoenix program,

the death Squads. And it serves the private prison industrial complex, which makes sense because a lot of the military contractors, you know, they maybe they go from military then they go into private prison security work, and so you know, obviously you're gonna have a lot of corrupt, sicko people in there, and that makes perfect sense. And the whole idea of profiling this whole so called science which doesn't really make sense, it's not very consistent. According to Dave, McGowan.

I'm not saying that there's not profiling. There is. There are profile else to killers, but the the FBI bureau, right that's set up Bureau of Scientific Bureau or I'm trying to remember the name of it, but there's some Behavioral Science Unit BSUs that's set up as a result of this. You know, it doesn't have the best record, according to to Dave and I'm gonna pass over the John man A Ramsey section. I did read that, but you have to that was just so weird. I don't

know what to make of it. Sounds like it looks like it's probably some kind of elite pedo sex ring. You can read that make your own judgment there. Sean Helton also has a lengthy analysis I believe that he wrote at twenty first Century Wire covering the John Maine Ramsey case and again, what do we see Satanan ritual

abuse covered up. One guy I want to mention at the end, who's curious is the character of Jean Bodel Bocasa, who is apparently was apparently the puppet of French intelligence in Central Africa, and he set up the Central African Republic and he declared himself emperor and you should go watch that. I watched two or three documentaries on this guy who is just so ridiculous. He was a cannibal, which is interesting. The Bocasa would have these lavish parties

in the palace and they would eat people. He would eat his enemies and people that he conquered, and reportedly when he went to Libya he fled when his empire collapsed, he fled to Libya and they still had eating people parties, cannibal parties there. So you get into the realm of the billionaires, okay, and the so called elite, and they're into this really sick stuff. And there are billionaires. They

do exist, and they do like six stuff. And I wouldn't be surprised after reading Dave's book if it's not really like hostile, if it's not really like Loan survivor whatever that remember that movie with Iced Tea, you know, where they get people and they hunt them from the nineties, something like that. I think maybe him and Gary Busey

or somebody crazy, you know. That's what we're looking at here is elite depravity, something that we've elite degenerously deviance, something that we've talked about a lot at Jason Elysis. And why why do we talk about that, Well, because it shows the abusiveness of the system and the establishment that the people at the tip top tend to be bad guys. They're not there to help you or protect you or save you. Now, does that mean that that's

because of highierarchy itself. I don't think so. The problem is a hierarchy. The problem is human pravity. The problem is humans are fallen and the reality of evil and the reality of spiritual evil. This is my conclusion on all this. It points us back to God, It points us back to the Bible. The world that the Bible presents, you know, is a world where demons are real, angels are real, spirits are real. They influence our world, our reality, and there is good and evil. And the modern world says,

all that's stupid, that doesn't exist, haha. And then here we are confronted with the reality of evil and these kinds of cases of you know, organ trade and cults and human sacrifice of war and all this stuff, and the response is either denial or the lame, anthetic, empty attempt to try to explain it all through psychiatric problems and throwing chemicals at it. But you're never going to

solve a spiritual problem in human beings with chemicals. And that's why all the you know, pharmaceutical stuff doesn't work. It might work in a sense to maybe put people in a day used catatonic state or something to where they're not able to go nuts because they're so drugged, but it doesn't solve the problem, right, It just treats the symptoms. The symptoms are of man's wickedness and depravity

is that he is fallen. Right. The source of the problem I'm saying is that he's fallen and the outwork these evil acts are outworkings of that. And when they manifest in these very extreme cases of depravity, you know, it really is just show showing us the reality of spiritual evil. But any society that can't recognize spiritual evil, and I would say that that's societies that are you know, the reason that we have so many material blessings in the West that we feel like all that stuff doesn't

exist anymore. Right, That was the ancient world, medieval world had all these superstitions, and then here we are faced with real sickos and people say, oh, well, it's just all fake. These idiots on the line that claim it's all fake. It's not all fake. There's real evil in the world, real spiritual evil. And again why why why is there all the denial? Well, because the admission of

it would lead back to the conception of God. Right, If there's spiritual evil that's admitted to exist, then well then there's probably a God too, and that's what no one in the modern world can admit or stand to admit. So Program to Kill The Politics of Serial Murder highly recommended book. I would say that ninety percent good. A couple criticisms of the book. Dave doesn't go into female serial killers. There are plenty of those you can go I've looked this up, by the way online the profile

quote profiles or the cases of female serial killers. There was that one movie with Charlie the Rohm playing playing that one crazy bitch I forget her name. But there's also black guys that were serial killers. He does mention the Atlanta the Atlanta kidnapper killer guy Wayne Wayne Williams. I think it is his name, So that's a black guy. But what in other words, what I'm getting at is that we have this impression that, oh, the serial killers are

all these middle aged, creepy white guys. That is not true. Now, a lot of these these serial killer guys have tended to be the middle aged white guy because a lot of guys who would have gone into the special ops Phoenix program type stuff were probably more intelligent, you know, trained in special forces type stuff. Right. So I mean, you can't just you can't just be a brute right and get into special forces. You also have to have like a certain level i Q and so forth. So

that would exclude a lot of minorities. And but but when we just consider the brutality of serial raping, murder, torture, there are plenty of cases of minorities involved in that,

including Hispanics, including blacks, including women, including Asians too. By the way, so this is not a racial issue I'm saying, but I'm but what's funny is that if you go to look I was doing this a year ago, when I was researching some of this, I went to Psychology magazine and when you look at what's psychologist pop thing right that talks about serial killers, they literally tell you that it's all white males. I'm sorry, but there are,

for example, there are women who've had multiple abortions. I would count that as a serial killing, right, based on my worldview. But no, that's not taken into account when politically correct Psychology Today magazine says that serial killers all white dudes, middle aged white dudes. No, it's been and the problem the issue there is that sin and evil are not race specific. All the races, all of the

tribes of man are prone to temptation and evil. And now you might could argue that certain people groups and races might be prone to certain evils. You could argue that.

on everywhere. I know a girl who was involved in djaying for very large techno parties in Japan, and I believe her when she says this, But she talked about some of the stuff that the Japanese rich guys were into and it's I'm not going to repeat it because it's so gross. Now she didn't say she did this, but she you know, she had been to parties where really gross stuff went down, which I won't mention it's

just nasty, but you could you can imagine that. You know, I'm talking about millionaire, billionaire guys that are into things stuff to do with human feces. Okay, so I mean that, and in a way, that's I guess quote as sort of tame compared to the idea of actually just killing people and you know, murdering them, all of which is disgusting.

But still this is what we're talking about. So it's not hard to believe when you consider, you know what other kind of stuff people who you know, they have all the money in the world, they don't need, you know, that isn't kind of moved to the next sick thing, right, It's like the sickest to the sickest. And when you look at the art world of the so called elite, that's a good window into that world that we're talking about here that it's not hard to believe. You know,

they're into some very gross there's our stuff. So anyway, that all to me suggests the reality of the spiritual world. And you know, we're we're going to continue to see wickedness of this nature, and it will get even worse and worse and worse until we realize that there is a god in the Bible is real. You know, here's this book that actually seems to explain all this very well, but nobody wants to believe that. They want to believe, you know, ridiculous stupid things. So you've been listening to

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