Pt 2 - Epstein / Bannon Interview Pt 1 Commentary / Analysis

Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next time you are tempted to say it's not my fault that I'm in this situation. Everything sucks and it's everybody else's fault in it. No, Yeah, things are bad, but there's always been corrupt people and things have been bad. So that's not an excuse for sloth, and it's not an excuse to try to circumvent righteous ways of operating.

Right.

Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong. So I'm sure that there are things that I don't know about that I haven't even noticed that I have cognitive dissonance about. But I would imagine that's true for everybody. I think nobody in this life is going to be completely free from traits that characterize the fallen state. Crash, filmsen dollars day, blessings to you. You are a great influence in my twenty two year old life. I'm a cad I mean Catechists at a Greek parish. All right,

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Things as a machine and unfortunately so if your car breaks, cars were always easy to fix, My jets, my cars. If it breaks, I know it can be fixed because it simply follows the same pattern. If this part breaks, you replace the plot and the thing works again. People and the financial system are not machines. They can't be fixed the same way. You can simply take out the butt, put some more juice into the commercial paper market, and that's like replacing the oator on the car. It's much more.

Once like liquid is basically cash, putting cash until.

He gets that's what it is, Okay. Liquidity is liquidity. It allows the system. It's the blood of the system. You need to pump blood hard into the body of the economy to keep it flowing. And if you're especially when you're worried about someone dying, you're not going to be worried about the niceties of well, you got the shirt dirty, you know, some damaged. Pump in that blood, keep that.

Hort you talk to to the person in treasure on Tuesday the sixteenth, did you get a feeling as you were sitting in your six x nine jail cell in West Palm Beach, Florida, that they were on top of things.

No, you can't, it's impossible to be on top of things. There's no such thing. It's again the doctor watching the patient die. You hopefully have some confidence and he's seen it before. He recognizes that there's some steps he has to take first before he bandages the guy's finger, worries about what shoes he has on. So you hope that the people in charge your doctors who are working on the emergency patient have enough experience and frankly judgment to try to keep the patient to life.

And I think did you think that they had those things patients and judgment?

They had pretty good judgment and you needed a lot of luck. Just like in the dead patient. You need to hopefully you put that blad in and it's not too late, and you maybe you make some mistakes, but you have to know you can have to give it a shock.

In the run up to the September crash of two thousand and eight, I guess you weren't occupied with finance that whole summer. How long had you been in jail?

I went to jail June thirtieth.

So the entire summer.

So our good buddy Banana up the butt. One of the fattest super chatters over your shout out to him. He's always given these big fat daddy wore bucks super jess. He says, for one hundred dollars, Jay. The genius Epstein stuff is legend. It's legend building. Yes, this is a great point in intelligence operations and intelligence cover. You build a legend which is your backstory, and it needs to be plausible. It needs to have, you know, some credibility.

Right.

So, in other words, if you look at art, for example, a lot of rt IS broadcasting over the last fifteen years has been focused on conspiracy topics, things that are focused on elite corruption I'm talking about now. A lot of that is leftists too. By the way, but as an Orthodox Christian, I am not beholden to or affirming Giasmov's doctrine I don't go. I've never been to Russia. So he's sending the supertrasts to try to give the impression that although I have been invited to Russia three times,

On you.

You know what's up, Hi Jay, Let me go find the question because I have ever written down. I would want to know your opinion on the on Patrioch Krills.

I don't know if you ever went over it.

But his his statement on serving for the Russian military, You'll be cleansing all your sins if you die in Ukraine.

I just want to know you're like your opinion.

I think the ro Corps bishop said that that might be going a little too far. But if he actually said that, no, just being in the military doesn't cleanse your sins. But my assumption would be that there's probably more context to that and the Russian statement on Church State Relations from twenty twelve or twenty sixteen, that famous document that actually says no, it's there's nothing wrong with defending and supporting your homeland, and that is a noble

Yeah, thank you, Jay, I knew about you know, dying for your homeland and protecting your people.

That's a noble cause.

But thank you for clearing it up and letting me know, because my friend was asking me about it and he wanted to know what your opinion on it was.

Yeah.

I will.

Not listening to anybody criticizing that comment if they're from the Roman Catholic domain, because the popes said the exact same thing about the Crusades. But also, I mean, is that really what he said or is that just what Western media is saying that he said. I want to see the full context. So but also a problem saying that Carol couldn't make theological mistakes. So what But you're no different than the It's no different than the pope. No,

Hey?

I got a question?

Do you think it's time to followed Larry Lorenzo's thirteen tips would be a bitcoin there?

Uh no, Actually he fell for the scam of like crypt all coins because he seems to be interested early on in bitcoin. And people shouldn't find this that surprising because he was interested in every emerging tech. I mean he's interested in cloning DNA, neural networks AI. Oh, I guess we Epstein was into AI. So if you're into AI, you're into Epstein. This is how stupid these people think he was early interested in bitcoin for sure. That's there

What's up, dude, Milon Milan, what's up?

I'm you? Max smiles? What's up? Max smiles? I'm mute. Oh interesting, that's all this, all of the people calling in lahati five dollars? Jay? Should orthodox start marches for accountability, like a march for life? I mean, I don't think that old school activism stuff really does much. I mean, you know, the people, the reason people do marches and whatnot was to call attention to it in the old days of media. So I don't know how much public

So I was in a conversation with a it was someone talking about, uh, the influence of neo Marxism in the US, and I was taking the position that similar to I think, you know, I think there's some substantial evidence showing uh, you know, institutional involvement in things like the drug revolution and the sexual revolution.

And those sorts of things.

And I was bringing up people like Kinsey and maybe their involvement.

With Rockefellers what have you.

And I was and I was trying.

To make the point that I, you know, I think it's good reason to believe that things like all the critical theorists.

And their promotion to the front of academia and the.

Front liberation of their ideas was in some way institutionally motivated as well or you know, supported.

And uh anyway, I was just wondering if you had any.

Maybe like resources on that.

I know that there's information out there about how Frankfurt School people worked with the OSS and c A during World Yeah.

I would look into Wilhelm Reich. Wilhelm Reich was a Frankfurt School guy who was a big promoter of the sexual Revolution. I would get Rachel's book Occult Feminism. Rachel Wilson, the Rockefeller's authorized biography that you see behind me has an entire chapter on support for feminism. Right here, This is the David Horowitz Official Biography of the Rockefeller's whole chapter on Abbey Rockefeller funding Cell sixteen and radical femme

Yes, before you went into jail, you were still very active in the financial markets.

Yes.

When you say active, you trade currencies every day, you trade stocks all day. When when people something like you or you give you give advice to people to trade stocks or trade currencies.

I don't trade every day. I think that's like like whaty Allen said, you can't beat the bank.

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I try to pick my spots, you know. Judge Sorrows picked his spot, and when the Pound collapsed, this would have been a great money making opportunity that passed me by when I was in jail. That's not how I say.

In the run up to that, in the spring of two thousand and eight, that's when Bear Stearns got in problems, I think in the spring of two thousand and eight and decided to bail it out. Did the Bear Searns. Guys talk to you for advice at that time. Then the big crisis and bear Serns.

See again unbeknownst to most people. And it's easy to blame people for the financial crisis, like you'd blame the someone for giving your father the drink before he had his heart attack. But what really happened. The real enemy of the financial system was Bill Clinton. And if you asked me what and who closed the financial crisis, I would tell you it was Bill.

Clinton because of what Bob Ruben and he did to the financial deregulate the financial system.

No, because as the last time we had our sixty minute interview, you talked to me about home ownership and you asked me whether everyone should own a home and I told you no, it's too risky.

So the financial collapse of two thousand and eight is because of hard working African Americans, Hispanics and whites, who.

Bill Clinton is the fault of it. I mean, come on, dude, who actually believes that Bill Clinton was calling the shots. Bill Clinton was chosen by David Rockefell under others as they bragged Builderberg to be the Rockefeller candidate. There's actual videos of that boy from tong Gat something Jay God bless, what's a good platform for buying bigcoin because swan is not supported in New Zealand. I don't know. You'd have to ask the chat. But I don't know about New Zealand.

Wanted to have a piece of have an ownership stake in the society that all rested on their shoulders. They're the culprits.

No, not at all. Okay, Then I didn't say that it comes I I was pretty clear with Bill Clinton, okay. And why was it Bill Clinton? Because Bill Clinton wanted to get votes from those people, and he sold them the idea that instead of renting in a house, and historically the values of houses has gone up, and he said, you guys, in these.

Local communities, we're going to skip out a little bit.

I refused to lend to mister Bannon. But now he has the big brother uncle. His uncles can do mathematics, they can be balanced their checkbooks. So certain people in Congress said, well, how do you value these prime mortgages the banks that we've been valuing them the same way we've always valued them for the past twenty years. The

All right, the banking yapping is really getting old. We're gonna skip out a little bit to the philosophy's section. Ac don't have gold, bitcoin, money or real estate because the crooks try to manipulate those things. Just don't do anything. Epstein is everything. It's all Epstein, Epstein coin. Yes, put all your money in jeff coin boy from Tongaku. No, we did that. We got another one from Tory ten dollars. My husband and I are always we love your work.

Never before in twenty years that they have to do this. So something they bought at a thousand, find the books was a thousand is now nine hundred and ninety.

The bankrupcy of the drugel Burnham in ninety, emplosion of Japan, huge run up in equity markets for the Internet, implosion the Internet tw thousand, ten years later roughly, and then this run up through the Iraq War and all that to run up to two thousand and eight. Every ten years. It seems like we're in some sort of ten years before the nineteen nineties was the subject am I said, like an astrologer, okay, that the Mathematican. It just seems to me that's every ten years.

That's misleading. That's exactly right, because.

People, Oh, by the way, a lot of people who say, in the case of like Elijah, Elijah reached out one time and said, Hey, tell me an Orthodox church to check out. This is when we were down there, uh for the ten debate. He was like, what's the Orthodox church I should check out? And I told him one of the Orthodox churches around that area of floored up. And then he sent me one text asking about talking to Orthodox priests, and I sent him Father and Moses,

Would like to see patents. People like to see patents where they are on them.

So a pattern of a financial crisis every ten years is just in my mind. Yes, long term capital and long term capital. The head be bailed out back in the late nineties when everybody panicked, and that one the big that bailout. The day would look small and it was a.

Five Sebastian, So I guess this is a separate day because you've got a different shirt on. So maybe the maybe Bannon was doing one hour segments. What's up Sebastian? All right, he can't connect. Let's say, if we can get away with putting Jeff Steine on double speed because this is going to take forever, dude.

Dollars ords thirty BIGI dollars. Cause people business fail all the time, but they launch a capital the feeder reserve steptend.

Say things people go bad, things go bad.

Well, get to Yes, the local you're correct, The audience is watchings. The little guys, they go back up all the time. Nobody get a sho you why they're little guy. But when long term cap Management goes bankrupt bear Starns was bankrupor nmbers Croup, people care because.

You know it's it's nunfair characterisation when you saidcau again, it's complexity of the situation. If you think about the you have a complex system. You have your body now. In fact, the little guy is my finger. This this is the bear Stearns is your heart, that's correct, But the banking system is my heart. The system I can't ris my because members that the way you haven't.

Been able to hang out. You haven't out.

You trying to one's hang out?

Do you not? Can you jus try to do it? You have it. You have it. Since we can't name another guy that's as good as you, not there may be a couple out there. You're not you're not bragging, You're you're humble. It had to be sometime. Please tell me there was some time.

Yes, Jeffrey Epstein, it's very humble. Good job, Steve, Yeah, very humble.

Before you went to jail and basically got cut off fro daily information in the summer of two thousand and eight that you start to get very nervous that this complex system that something was deeply wrong.

Okay, first, when I say no one understands the system better than I do, it doesn't mean I always sound like.

Doctor, your friend's gonna get suited for given as any liability. There's no contention the bit your fan.

But the word understand is the problem. I don't understand the system. So that's I don't understand the financial so please stop.

You cannot sit here and tell what we just went through. I'll go through again. The hedge fund man so this.

Is pretty interesting because he does understand it, but he's also pointing out this kind of dark, irrational side to it, to where it's like, you know, you don't understand, Like I understand the financial system, but I also don't understand it because it's a living organism that has a life of its own.

In TuS, the money managers, the central bankers, the commercial bankers, the heads of the investment banks, the head of all the trading desk, the top economists, and I'll throw into business school lecture as a stander of all the top two hundred, twud and fifty you can't name on the top of your head. The guys are at least of your level. You have to understand it.

Someone no, sorry, we all don't understand it. No one understands it. It's a mirror. That's part of the problem. It's impossible to understand. That word understand simply means if this happens here, that will happen there. It's predictable. Understanding means it's predictable. It's not predictable. That's the problem. It's very it's in complex systems. That was the fascination. Is there a way to tease out some level of predictability? In fact, what you asked, you would ask the question.

But you just okay, hard working people and there's a great social benefit. Would you not agree with having people having ownership in the system.

When you say ownership in the system, it doesn't mean.

Your phone too.

Yes, yeah, alright, come on, Jeff down, you fucked up with this. You will get through this phone. But you cannot possibly have s to sit there knowing that you came from nowhere, knowing that you went to the very top of what is considered outside of science and maybe physics.

So did I find it amazing that I was there?

That's not amazing. I don't want to say it was not funny. Oh I thought it was like I wasn't funny, right, But not amazing. It was incredible, incredible in what way this trodible?

Like?

How do I do this to myself?

No, it's as incredible as me sitting here in this house. They both just two sides of the coin. But send drop and the things, all the sand Stuarts running down the hills. That's the way I see the financial moment.

You funded Santa Fe in the early nineties.

Or late eighties.

I believe it was early nineties.

I can get backy, but early nineties Santa Fe was funded for the study of complexity theory.

We said he would a method. So let's let's back up. So why did I buy a ranch in the Mexico nineteen ninety three, So that's usually some sense I would have funded it. In nineteen ninety Los Alamos, which was the high energy lab up in New Mexico, was losing all its scientists.

And A says the most it was were Oppenheimer and where the where a lot of the nuclear weapons furn the bomb. That's what the Manhattan Project, Manhattan Project was, that's Los Alamos. And you watched your property out in Mexico to been near that, yes.

Because the scientists were going to be They cut the funding for high energy physics, but the people who worked in loss almost would still be in the Santa Fe area.

They cut that because the end of the this was the Cold War dividend, right love of it.

Were talking about the beef turkey email or something that one's new that one just popped up today. I haven't seen that yet, and people are speculating that that is code. Do we have any reasonable confirmation? I mean, I could obviously have no problem seeing that, like maybe they I mean Jamie and are watching Hannibal, the TV show, and it coincides very interestingly with what we're talking about here. You know, is the pizza also code for something else?

Uh?

Is it C A N N I B A L stuff? Nothing would surprise me. But do we have, you know, anything pointing at that beyond? I mean, I'm not trying to defend Jeff something, but maybe does he maybe just mean a beef jerkey? I don't know, Like I haven't even seen the beef turkey email. So let's let's listen to Jeff and we'll see what that says.

I don't remember exactly why it was, because again people thought there was the physics and high energy for it. Really wasn't that.

Inportant because that was about nucinal weapons.

No, it was because they were trying to they decided it was maybe not right. This was the same time that Murray Gelmont came up with the term quawk qu ar k. He picked it out of an old poem, the work Walk. But it was something it was mysterious, So they were starting to understand In the nineties that in our world of the physical world, there was things that were just unexplainable. They called it strange things. You gave it a name, you gave it some characteristics, you

So the email, somebody's saying that jerky comes up three hundred and eighty times jerky recipes. Francis has time to come over tomorrow Jerky class. I will bring a taste of his new jerky recipe. He's working at a restaurant called Cannibal Cooks. Okay, so that's why people are thrown in the cannibal part. I've been eating beef turkey a round a mile, really into beef turkey for a diet six out portion of jerky six eight ounce. I mean,

I wanted to see if we could build tools so others smarter than we could help investigate it.

And that was the beginning of the sconceipt of the Santa Fanastity. Yes, and Santa Fantasity was founded to do study in this type.

Of can these areas of strange things be described by some form of mathematics?

So that's what I'm trying to get at, the foundational thought, the organizing principle.

So he's talking about working at the Santa fantas To which you said earlier, was about systems analysis at of our high level and figuring out how to study and predict large scale systems like global economics and could it be predicted is what he's talking.

About of Santa fe In the High Physics Lab at at Los Alamos, which had created been the headquarters of Manhattan, and the Trinity Project right the bomb. Yes, so you're talking about the the elite, the High Priest of Physics of physics, Yes, sir, which High Priests of Physics some subset of that is also mathematic system.

Yes, they both have similar project at.

The High Priest of Physics. Interesting terminology again suggesting that mainline normy physics, scientism, et cetera, as we said at the very beginning of this discussion, is a top down enterprise. Hence why all of the top New atheists were all so close to Jeff sent McAffrey flying on the plane. You guys remember Brave New World, which we did a

One of the tools you want to do is to make sure that in this complex system, the finance system. I'm doing a lot this for Philanthroy and for the good the man of kind, but also to be able to understand this complex system, the most complex outside of maybe our body of the financial world. Yes, did they create tools. We were you smarter in than the mid odds fifteen years later than you had been then because of work it was done at Santa Fe.

No, it was great, but in fact most of the money.

Oh, by the way, for those saying that there's nothing to all this blah blah blah, which is totally idiotic. Another high level political person, Norway's ambassador, suddenly stepped down. She's named thirty three times in the Epstein Falls Mona Jule. So so funny to see people stepping down over fake emails, ding bat. What's up dude? Now? On this Kabbala part? Yes, I have lengthy talks on what Kabbala is medieval Jewish mysticism from actual scholarly sources like Gersham Sholin on my channel.

I'm you.

Hey, j.

Is that earlier when you were talking to that guy that was calling you sued and you had that very interesting I don't know if you could call it a debate.

Why was he calling you, Jason?

I don't know. Oh, it's like.

I've been watching you for you.

It could have been a joke. He could have been joking, like because I always make the joke of like when people are debating and they just start saying my name, So maybe he thought it would be funny to just say my full name instead of oh yeah, I don't know.

Do you have a serious question though? The I've been watching you, both you and Nick for years, and I like both of you, your your contents, and this what I wanted to talk to you about was the his downplaying of the pedo stuff, or or rather it is the narrative control that Israel is putting.

Out with their best books.

People on Twitter about knicks downplaying of the pedo stuff, and Nick counter to that being that what he's actually trying to do is he's trying to overemphasize the the Jewish fixer narrative because you don't have to, you don't have to expose.

What's already obvious.

And so it doesn't make any sense to just keep talking over and over about the pedo stuff. It really doesn't make sense to just continue to re litigate the pedo stuff over and over.

So you're saying that's that's the fuller context for his statements. Hello, Hello, You're saying that's the fuller context for his statements, and then people are taking like that he said that the Calariy Church, for example, allows what fifteen year olds. I think in some countries is that what you're saying, what I'm trying.

To say is that I.

Enjoy the I enjoy his content for the flavor, Yes, but when he goes out, he does go off the.

Rear was a little bit.

He is young, he is you know, sometimes a little uh, sometimes a little.

Weird, and he says a lot of things that are.

You know, out there, But this specific thing that he said does make sense to me that you don't have to expose with already in the light. We all already know the obvious. You know, he enjoyed the company of young girls. We get it, and he and he did

Well, it's I definitely agree that the real crux pivot thing is the international compromise fixer element. So that's the most important. And I'm not down playing the abuse of people, but the abuse in the number of the people is smaller than the number of people destroyed by thirty years of financial markets, war, chaos, all the things that he's

I would enjoy a competition between you guys. It reminds me of his perspective, reminds me of when people bag a politician to like condemn something as racist.

It's like, what is what is obviously bad.

And already in the light, does not need to be relitigated, It doesn't need to be condemned. What we need to be talking about is what people are clearly ignoring for narrative purposes.

Yeah, I understand that that's the narrative on X has gone in that direction. I usually focus and try to talk at a normy level to a lot of noormies, you know what I mean. So I'm always trying to convince people like, look, here's you know, the Rothschild's in their biography saying yeah, we gained the stock market two hundred years ago, hahaha, raging about it, you know what

So I'm the only Orthodox in my family.

Entire family is Protestant, and recently my mom has been messaging.

Me like, hey, what's up with Israel?

And I'm like, I don't want to throw everything I know at her immediately because I don't want to scare her.

So I'm like very.

Slowly asking her questions, do you think Israel?

That's exactly That's exactly the way to talk about these types of topics. To Boomers.

Exactly right, I asked questions.

I don't I'm not throwing everything I know about Epstein's connection.

I'm asking her questions. And it just.

Clearly, clearly the Boomers and the Normies are getting wind of this, and they are slowly realizing, Okay, there is an ethnic component to it, and we need to be able to talk about it openly and freely, or we don't have free speech in this country.

We don't.

Yeah, no, that is true, and it's nice. Thank you for that calling back. It's nice to be able to at least have some conversations now that couldn't be had, you know, if you years ago. So as we get into the perhaps kabbalistic element of it, I'm not exactly sure where we're going at this point in the discussion,

Most of my philanthropy in the area of can you describe things that appear to be unexplainable by mathematics and can you fund people who have new ideas? And unfortunately, when someone thinks they've been able to there's a man Stuart Kaufman, when they think they okay, I figured out how to be able to predict the unpredictable, what appears to other people to be unpredictable. But my system in those days it's called genetic algorithms, can predict what things

Your first head of Santa Fe was crystal.

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That come, on, dude let's get to the.

Point one divided by zero don't know if you were in high, school it's, like stay away from it's the. Boogeyman you could write it down as it's. Undefined it's not able to be determined that there's a bunch of. Things but in, fact one divided by zero is a strange things. Happen it's a world of the. Strange And i'll explain to you after is that when you get one divided by, zero you get into. World we don't know what. Happens the answerest it's Not oh.

Shit, dude somebody said that Was candace astral projecting into the video Damn and by the, way If Charlie chorleye had that time, tech there's no reason And candas couldn't go back in time and astral project into The bannon. Interview, dude that's what that was.

Explainable we can give. It we can call it things like. Undetermined what we can give have a convention to say it's IT'S, X y or. Z but in real life we don't know what happens when you are actually at the. Limit so that's An newton for the same. Concept is that the limits Where philip god you got close To, god but you can never Be. God he had this sort of religious. Interpretation, OKAY i want to go back To.

Newton why Is newton such a big dividing line in mankind's? History what is it About? Newton what is about anybody trying to solve what did they not know? Beforehand and what we live to an?

Agree doesn't everybody know this from like like first, love like your first physics class in. College why do we need A i know people want to Question newton and they want to you, know people believe in quantum. PHYSICS i know all That i'm just, like this is A it's just bizarre that we went from corruption and high finance To bannon wanting an introductory course On newtonian physics of cost and. Effects it's just Weird newtonian.

Universe ALTHOUGH i realized later some sub particle atomic, physics but at least for a, while it was. Neetonia so what's the? Divide why is he so? Important why is he inflection point in mankind's movement from the swamp to the.

Stars that's a great, question because stars were by. Kep What newton starts to allow us to do is to make, prediction accurate. Predictions remember that we've got talked about that with, Money about the things in our physical. World how, cars he didn't have cars, that how horse carriages, moved how, things how boweling balls, Moved how pool cues and pool excuse, me pool table. Balls wouldn't try.

To solve that Before Newton mayklitis or you, Know Platinus phathagoras that had these great he knew, again.

But it was all. Numbers this was a system of things in the physical. World And patagora, says we can start putting numbers on things that help you predict how they will behave you can add two triangles and make a square some different. Shapes they're looking at gaymetric. Forms newton, says, WELL i want to know how planets. MOVE i want to know how things around me. Move can we find? Formulas CAN i find formulas that explain WHAT i see in the physical, world how physical things, interact and how

Yeah there's different theories about Whether libnis discovered calculus Or, newton or did they actually independently both discover. Calculus it's an interesting, point but very.

Specific so when you drop the ball to the floor of this, Room newton, says in fact the room came up a bit to meet the. Ball the room. Moved it's in. Percept they can't really perceive that. Motion but they attracted each other with certain. Ratio so he started to be able to measure things in the physical world and that was great. Advances it also now you wanted

This is like, quantification, right the idea that everything could be. Quantified and, uh now we Know bannon has an interest in perennialism and uh you, know the traditionalist so called. School So bannon has read Evil law and presumably free thof shoe on And. Gannon so this seems to be verging into the uh you, know rain of quantity From, gannon that kind of stuff.

Like, this let's measure, everything measure their voting has, measure, measure. Measure can we put a number on how MUCH i care for my? Wife CAN i put a number on HOW i? Feel and we, Tried, unfortunately we not try to mathematize it's called quantification minor things in life and then recognize that there's things that unfortunate fortunately just fall outside everyone, Shorting, yeah.

That's a great. Point normanis think this is genius, talk, Right so like basic this is Even, like isn't this like eighth grade? Physics people think eighth grade's physics class talk is.

Like, wow this is like this is like High braine.

Stuff, wow high. Stuff Oh i'm terrible at. MATH i don't remember any of that maths, shit but LIKE i know this, stuff LIKE i remember a lot of. This like, whoa this isn't even this is? What, yeah this is why noormies will fall for like the most ridiculous. Word Solid right wrote a.

Very famousok about why his. Life he was trying to figure out a. Way can't he describe the difference formulaically between things that are alive and things that are dead, Answers, no the things that are alive in my world are, miracles not. Magic magics has a bad. Connotation you don't believe in the spirit or the. Soul that's what animates. People is your spirit your?

Soul no. One but have you ever seen someone? Die when they, die their spirit, Leaves the soul leaves no. Question so when there's no question to, you no, question there's no question to you that there is some animating life force within us that leaves when you're.

Dead, Yes in, FACT i refer to the. Soul there's obviously a certain the questions in.

The past would normally think you were. Soulless so have you just know to have you talk about you actually believe in it and have done some thinking About it's pretty shocking in its own, Right in't?

It well again? Mathematics Leibnitz And leibnitz, THOUGHT i, Said.

No newton was At cambridge and he was ahead of Math departmight he's, professor but likeness who would likeness A german? Professor?

Yes but What leibnitz said is the soul is so strange Because god took, chemicals which is simply the material like, tables and he somehow made this material able to have a. Thought how strange is that not only does it have a, soul but this some way it was put, together that this material substance is able to. Think so when you say to, me it's obvious to everyone that this is such a thing as a. Soul, now if you're part

Physics wait a, Minute, jeff let's still a little pre supping Of Jeff sain mcceff for, here religion and con artists are the ones that try to explain the. Soul by the, way here's my explanation of the. Soul so are you admitting a con?

Artist nowadays you hear in terms of dark, matter doc energy, again. Terminology it's, complicated termine why is it doc? Matics we can't see it as. Well what do you mean you can't see? It, well somehow we see something moving towards this area of darkness. SOMETHING i can see this. Thing this appears to me to be, empty it's just, black BUT i see it being drawn this. Way SO i, said, WELL i know if this were, matter that would follow that.

Moves, Yeah i'm not detecting high levels of genius. Here i'm detecting like basic familiarity with basic. Ideas that's so far What i'm detecting. Here, SO i, MEAN i guess what he said about live notes is kind of. True BUT i mean you could read A wikipedia entry and kind of get that much of.

It BUT i can't see anything, here So i'll just call it dark. MATTER i don't know what it, is but it behaves as if there was something. There the soul is obvious to everyone that there's something different between things that are alive and things that are not. Alive but we have no idea what it. Is it's currently. UNEXPLAINABLE i believe we need an entirely different system of analysis to try to figure.

Out but now With, newton you, know, uh so, interesting so we get he is talking about sort of mystical ideas. Here so are we going to get full. Cobbalism let's see where we.

Go it's all his alchemic, study chemical studies and things you've worked on the spiritual side leadnits that just talked about the Soul schroeder. Talk it was like if a modern scientist or someone that you funded AT mit At harvard in one of these things talk in those types of, terms they would be considered to be a wing nut, today wouldn't They they would they would not be on the path for tenure right.

Unless they were in the philosophy of the. Moment that this is exactly my.

Point we're talking about three of the greatest mathematicians in mankind's history that have really changed mankind talking like, this what? Happened how do we get to a situation where they could not be in the high, physics you, know they could not be in the mathematic in the mathematics department or working in scienceity.

Physics so it's an easy. Answer newton was a combination of mathematician or geometry then and, philosopher and as time went on that those disciplines seem to.

Well newton was an, alchemist so he Didn't he referenced alchemy earlier and said he kind of gave some credence to the possibility the transmutation of matter that he thinks that's. Legit and now he's talking About, newton who was a committed hermeticist.

Alchemist move, apart we had philosophy who some of the philosophers can't do, math and some of the. Mathematicians and again mathematicians often break into two. Categories people that solve. Problems those are more like, geometris you, know there's just problem, solvers and then there's thinkers. Theoreticians they're more like the old movement towards. Philosophy but neither one of those two groups have been able to figure out why something is.

Mathematics so there you have A Pythagorean kabbalistic argument that reality itself is mathematics or. Numbers and you do find this in some of the well known famous physicists out, there Like max Tech Mar max Tech, mark for, example thinks that reality literally is, numbers which is again kind of the Ancient pythagorean And platonic. Position so that's definitely

Here. Mathematics everyone knows mathematics describes the physical world much greater than it should unless you my, view the physical world really comes out of conscious beings that have, mathematics so they create. It this table appears to you AND i to be solid to a bat or, if because we have light that's bouncing off the table into our. Eyes it appears solid if instead of eyes that responded to wavelengths of visual, light our eyes responded to radio.

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It with each other when some everyone has the same. Feeling they've seen someone walk in the room and they, said, oh that person gives me a creepy. Feeling science has tried to describe.

Science so this IS i, mean, wow sixth. Sense this is so.

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Jeff must be describing the feeling that many women had when he came into the. Room so he must be very familiar with people having the creepy feeling phenomenon last.

Time have an intuitive. Sense what is? Intuitive they have, Intuition they have, feelings and they're able to deal in the realm of things that, men especially men like myself find. Unexplainable they have Great women have. Intuition men see things a bit. Differently men want to measure. Everything women in.

That, Really i'll see he's an intuitive bro. Right we had a lot of callers tonight calling in with their. Intuition we should just follow their. Intuition, candae just follow my. Intuition don't worry about a bunch of research and reading. Books just follow my. Intuition, well it turns out just On geffert is a good he's a he's a defender of. Women he's a good old feminist at, heart good Old jeff stim. Mceffort women have a more deeply seated intuitive.

That he speaks of the wiggers that interested in.

Measuring in what you're saying in, macrotterms you actually think science. Mathematics maybe ultimately technology is moving to that more INTUITIVE.

I think science and math are old, fashioned and unfortunately people are still taught that they.

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Yourself they'll learn algebra in school and certain things in school as opposed to learning to.

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Enough but what he was trying to get to in that, system the systems we study today are the way mathematics either taught or.

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Women just havn't gotten up to the highest realms of, engineering or physics or mathematics because of, that.

Because there was oppressed, though because the patriarchy was oppress on the. Women see, you, ladies y'all had a negative appraisal Of Jeff sin MacCaffrey all these. Years y'all thought he was a bad. Dude he's on your. Side he's trying to get you a damn stem. Job he's trying to get your stem cells and get you a stem position.

Girlfriend and you're you're actually applying that there's a either new branch or science or we've hid a inflection, point like A newton that's going to go Into newton took man kind of different direction because he was able to. Measure then you had subatomic you, know Non newtonian. Physics, later are you saying that you think there's another developed field it's coming up that may take US i don't know how many decades to get our hands, around but that that's what's evolving out of.

This, yes, yeah in FACT i think that mathematics it's not the end of. Science every year someone says at the end of we can't discover. Everything there's lots to discover with a relationship to the physical, world but we know we're a lot already in respect to the unexplainable. World we almost know.

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Time women again sense it and instead Of Larry, Summers i'm JUST i won't digress too. Much But Howard gardner early on said there's not one form of.

Intelligence it just occurred to, me how amazingly transparent this, is how hypocritical the mainline voices of feminism. Are this is a man who, steals, grapes traffics, women young, women and he's publicly a feminist women's rights. Supporter amazing the level of just Absolutely and by the, way how many of the major voices of, feminism especially the male, feminists how many of them have we seen exhibit the exact same traits where they get busted for some grape scandal

Right it's not mathematical. Intelligence there's emotional, intelligence kinesthetic. Intelligence you, know there's this argument THAT i reject that black people are less intelligent than white. People it's not.

True oh? Really is that why all of your text messages and private communications say the exact, opposite because you talk about genetics research and all the connections between genetics AND. Iq.

Interesting we, know for example that IF i was in the forest AND i had to run from the lion or figure out a way not to be, eaten and my competition is a Local, African i'm the one who's getting eaten because they have the intelligence to deal with the local. Environment so, wait what.

Was he just saying that IF i was In, africa the black people would eat me and SO i would not be. Intelligent but he was in the context of defending black people as not LOW, iq but then saying that they're going to eat, Me like what that?

Was that was a.

Wild twist, There. Jeff it's just.

Different it's not, better it's not. Worse but there's many differences amongst different types of, people and to people have different, intelligences and they excel in some intelligences usually and less so in.

Others one need to come to because the world of high finance is a world of pure reason or is? It is it a lot of emotion and gut checks and and you, know on trading desk in central banks when these decisions get.

Made is it is it that, oh he was saying he was running from a. Lion didn't he say? CANNIBAL i thought he said the word cannibal.

High church like the High church of science of high energy. Physics or is it as much emotion that comes in as much as the mathematics and the reason.

The High church of high energy physics bizarre. Terminology it's a great.

QUESTION i think if you talked to really experienced and successful, traders.

Somebody Said epstein cause he's.

Fleeing Around africa from the cannibal. Tribe was? It lions are, Cannibals.

And you ask them how they know what's going, on they can't give you an. Answer they don't. Know they feel. It they can feel the way the market's, moving they can feel the way the stock's. Moving and that these are not very well defined. Terms it's not it's difficult to put in mathematics. Terms how DID i feel? It you could look back and make guesses WHAT i was, Seeing but great traders feel it and then act on their.

Justification if, All i'm started to think it really is human, jerky cause he's talking ABOUT i thought he said cannibals eating him In? Africa was that? Lions i'm. CONFUSED i don't know what's. Lost, boy they Take we're five hours into. That.

Nis when you first got on the trading desk of Bear stearns in the late seventies or midst, seventies were you shocked by how little actual understanding of mathematics that the traders. Comprehended, yeah, again we had A texas instrument calculated most most, stockbrokers and especially before that can seventy.

Five if they were, good stockbrokers could add that's about.

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Couldmultiply if you could, multiply you were already in the top fifteen percent of. Stockbrokers stockbroker simply meant, that, jeffar there's a great there's a story WHEN i went to the first PERSON i had no, money AND i said how much money do you make a? Year and he said four hundred thousand dollars. Impossible i'm making ten thousand.

Dollars that's strolling more your family had made in his entire. Assistance, yes and.

He makes it in a. YEAR i, said what do you? Do and he, said its too complicated for you to, understand which is what the main thrust Of Wall street. People they want to tell you it's too complicated because if you understood, that that person was simply he had a brother in law in fact in this, case who ran the pension, fund the general. Motors his brother in law would call them and, say buy a THOUSAND. Ibm he'd hang up the, phone he'd write it out on a ticket and walk it to a. Window that was

When you're on the trading door a time that you felt either complete uncertainty or you saw tone panic where people.

To that's why it's so exciting, now BECAUSE i think certain people are starting to realize that there's so many things that are unexplainable that we have to think about them. Differently music is a great, example just a it's a common man's. Example you, know when you hear a certain song it makes you feel a certain. Way how does it do? That we don't. Know we can't mathematize. It and even that, Music, steve nowadays we compress. Music when you have a, violin it's compressed onto your. iPhone so

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Okay it's those pieces that we take out when we compress. Data to, me are the most interesting parts of. Life you just said a while.

Ago part of this new search for science may go back to when people actually talking about a, soul and you, said there no doubt in your mind that there is a. Soul describe for me what you mean by. That what do you mean by? Soul what do you mean to solve different than the physical analog body that we're seeing on film right.

Now it's difficult to describe in. WORDS i, Mean i'm not a. Poet poems get a little closer to what that really. Means but we. Can even the concept of what is life becomes complicated when you deal with plants and. Seeds is a seed? ALIVE i don't, know and certain people say, no it's. Dead when you have, banana one of my favorite examples is the banana that's sitting on the countertop in your kitchen. Today is it alive or?

Dead what do you think about human?

Life when is?

That what is?

Human tell me about?

Human but you have? Bana this is.

Alive this is funny because this is their text email exchange where they have this conversation about whether the banana is, alive and then they're, like, okay but is it?

Conscious it's just, goofy that bananas. Breathing it's on Your you say it's, Impossible, Jeffrey, no is the banana? Conscious all these these are, Words so you everyone's trying to fit very complicated concepts into a very small by called conscious or. Alive it's these don't fit in that. Way so if you put your bana in a bag and put another fruit in with, it the fruit ripens fast because the banana breathes with. It that's we don't.

We've we've a cidicular two. Dollars does jefs sim McAffrey have pepperoni, nipples peppers. PEPSTEIN i don't. KNOW i haven't looked at his nude. BODY i don't really care to see his nude.

Body understand what most of those? Things so you asked the big, question do you talk at the? Life what about human? Life what about?

It tell me what do you, think what do you think human life?

Is it's a. Miracle it's a. Miracle and WHEN i say, MIRACLE i can't explain, it AND i make no attempt to explain. It at the, moment we don't know how to think about. It and anyone it is getting another one of The fineman. Quotes when he was talking about quantum, physics he, said Anyone jeffrey who says they understand quantum physics and quantum mechanics and quantum, behavior you know they.

Lie let's talk about that's postnetonium. Talk talk about what's the? Difference who found a quantum mechanics?

What it's funny because even though this is new, age he also kind of sounds like a reddit bro, too. Right he's like a reddit enormy with a lot of this stuff which can scrack me.

Up it's called quant, mechanics Taking newtonian physics and taking it to the next.

Level it's forms a much broader. Category let's get back to this.

Desk you used. It the thing Of newton using this, desk what Is why Can't newton's theory explain? Everything why did sub atomic quantum mechanics or quantum physics have to come and to, explain to explain.

This, well so let's let's go right back to square. One why is it called quantum. Physics so quanta is a word that simply means, packet small, Amount so it's. Quantized so we, recognized when we've recognized that this table appeers, appears another very complicated word solid.

Us it.

Has it's really made up of molecules or, atoms and atoms we've given lots of names to what some of the.

Behaviors, wow this is really. Deep so we're back to uh seventh grade level physics. Class this is.

Amazing if you were in, school when you AND i were in school in the, fifties the model was a little center thing in the, middle and electron went around and around. It it was seen as a ball that went around and around.

It, daniel five. Dollars did you See epstein's email to All brecht about making grinder profiles to Blackmail american. Politicians that's a. Joke that's a. Joke daniel is.

Joking and as we start to look at to, say well let's see what this bull looks. LIKE i want to be able to examine that little thing called an electron we, found uh, yeah a.

Lot of dyla monkey coded references here with the bananas and the you, know evolution and this is getting really.

Deep there was nothing. There it wasn't the. Thing it was simply a cloud OF i.

Like how they're discussing things that you would literally hear in like your introduction To philosophy, class like the first. Day this is the stuff that comes, up like literally an intro to, philosophy, okay WHICH i remember intro to. PHILOSOPHY i had a great intro to philosophy. Professor he was a human, skeptic but he was a great. Professor and this is literally the stuff that we talked. About

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Right that's like day one Of Introduction philosophy in college your first. Day and it's funny to me because like he And bannon think they're having this like two HUNDRED iq level conversation that no one could even barely. Understand and it's literally what you would talk about like the first day of philosophy.

Class get that we can call an. Electron so we already start to see mysterious things as we go into very super small quantities quantum. Physics so quantum physics like to go into the very small and very small.

Distances, wow so quantum physics about small quantities is actually about the physics of small. Quantities, damn this is blowing my. Mind.

Ude we see things that we can't, explain just cannot explain how much a type.

We got face, lords and we got mind, lords we got mind. Loaders but by the, way this is also why the new atheists in his sphere were so influential and we're so effective from the two thousands up into you, know the death of that, stuff you, know five or six years, ago it's dying out on. YouTube you have the last dying gasps of it With Professor dave And derek Myth vision and all. That like this explains why

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Let's go back to human. Life when do you think human life?

Starts it's not These so you, see this is the. Question you're asking me to measure something, again it's. Measure you're just you just hate making. Commitments that's Why i'm not.

Married I'm i'm peeling this onion back a lair of. Time all your bullshit and. Happytar you can't be measure can't be measured like? That is that to say measure makes it's a. Commitment you don't even like a commitment when you you.

Just say all your bullshit.

Answer, QUESTION i know the saying, golf commit to the.

SHOT i don't know what it means to be.

Measured you do know what it means to be. Measured you're one of the leading currency, traders hedge fund, guys or stock market financial. Wizard you're the high priesthood.

Hyphen you're in the high priesthood of high. Finance interesting commentary there From bannon H, and by the, Way, no the fact that he's in finance has absolutely no connection at all with the ability for him to measure things in physics or in. Philosophy so it's like so many people think that one being, fluid, fluent and proficient in one discourse or one domain makes them experts in. Everything it's such a weird. Phenomenon you certainly know how to.

Measure that's why you're. Beginner any other answer besides that is totally complete, bullshit and you know.

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Things you know things to be. Measured you measure every. Day you weigh and measure every. Day you wiy and measure, People you ay and measure, Leaders you measure, Ecdomies you way to measure, politics very way. Measure you hang on your hang on your whole life in, fact is.

Measuring that's so what you've now done is a great. Thing is you've used the word, measure a mathematic term in the common of, vernacular and abused it SO i don't even recognize what it. Means it's so.

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India instead of asking me whether that money was should be given to these children for, VACCINES i think you might want to ask their mothers who received.

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