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glad you're with us here. Lots to go through tonight. I'm sorry we're starting a little bit late and appreciate you staying up late with us. Man now, oh good man, looking forward to it. Yes, there is a lot to talk about tonight, for sure. For sure. All right, let's welcome to the stage, Grunt, what's up? Man, Welcome
to the boiler room. What's up? Everybody? UD taking a different approach today, just doing some audio because it's uh, it's wait, way late, but I figured I'll join you guys for a little bit and have a little bit of fun and then so I get a couple hours of sleep and go back to work. All right, man, don't let us keep you up too late. Feel free to punch out whenever you need to. Glad to have you. And uh, I guess you're in your pj's right,
in your your BUCkies full body pjs with the flip down butt that. Yeah, that's actually exactly what I'm wearing. How did you know what else would one be wearing at night other than your technical BUCkies pjs. Yeah, I've got got BUCkies pjs on literally in my bedroom, just chilling hanging out. All right, man, all right, cool beans, glad to have you here. Let's welcome Baze lit Analyzer based. What's up? Welcome to the boiler room? Yo, what's up? Everybody? Happy? Spooky season?
Spooked? Ob er ooh, tomorrow's Friday the thirteenth. Is everybody sitting there with their pumpkin spice getting spooky? If everybody's doing well the festive season? Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, all right, let's welcome Jay Dyer to the stage. I believe Jamie Henshaw's in the background there, Jay,
Great to have you, thanks dud. Yeah, I got my pumpkin spice hamas latte because we're all gonna get blown out tomorrow and terror events that were staged by the terrorists tomorrow, right right, yeah, Friday, Yeah, yeah exactly. It's like you don't even need to buy toilet paper, right, you can just kiss your ass goodbye. We're all gone tomorrow. It's all gone. Right, Well, it's good to be with you on the eve of the apocalyps All right, let's welcome ruckus to the stage, Rugas.
What's up? Welcome to the boy of the room. Yo, I'm operating three machines tonight, so I just posted on Facebook on my other equipment there in the other room, on the facebooks there, so go do the thing over there. Got a cool graphic for tonight, the dude with the fighting fists. We've got a full house tonight. Looks like we have a late edition. So sorry if I missed your name on the announcement. But yeah, happy to be here. We got a big room, sure,
and we got some big news, big events happening. Hey, this could technically be the last boiler room ever, right because the world might end tomorrow, who the heck knows, but we might get into that we might not, but if we do, great, If not great, great either way. Absolutely we could talk about underwater basket weaving all night and painting mushrooms and I'd be perfectly happy. But we shall see. It's good to see your records, all right. Let's welcome Wandering Wolf to the stage. What's up
man, How you doing? Welcome to the boiler room. Good evening everyone. I'm doing fantastic, And I for one am happy about the late start because I managed to slide in right as you were up the intro music. So I'm happy to be here. And if this is the last boiler room that we all do together, I will be glad to go up into apocalyptic smoke with such fine people. That's right. That's right man, all right, and let's welcome the one, the only, the very lovely keeper of
all things Whiskey Tango foxtrotting on the interwebs, Lovely Spore. Welcome to the boiler room. How you doing? Thank you? I am very happy to be here as well. And I mean similar sentiments as other people have said. If this is my last night, these are the people I want to spend it with. Yeah, well, personally, I don't think we need to worry about it. We're pretty resilient and well armed country, so we'll just have to wait and see. But I don't know, we'll get into
that maybe at some point here. But Mark Twain said I think it was Mark Twain. He said something along the lines of ninety five percent of the things that I worry and stress about never came real. There you go, There you go. Something to keep in mind. Now, let's see here spore. That was loud in my ear. Sorry, everybody. What do we break in the ice with tonight? I believe this one was brought to us by our lovely listener, Brian Snotty, And the title of the article
is, oh great, I have an ad that always helps. Okay, Okay, here we go, killer clown stalking village weeks before Halloween, leaving residents terrified. Yeah, exactly. I mean I kind of like, you know, there's a few articles and ice breakers that were brought to my attention that like once I actually looked at them and I'm like, oh my gosh,
this is too dark. I mean, like, okay, kind of funny title, you know, Firecracker and a woman's vagina, And then you read it and it's just like, oh my god, yeahs, yes, sorry what oh yeah, you guys covered this. You guys covered the same thing, this phenomenon years ago, exactly a few times. Actually, this happened a few times pre COVID, and it was like kind of you know, funny and weird at the first time, like oh, okay, is there like actually something going on? No, no, and then it was
just like okay, this again. And then of course post COVID, then we've got the wandering gimps on the street. So we've been there, and then now we're back to this. So this is in Glasgow. It's a little village in Glasgow, Scotland, and this guy is basically, to sum this up, he is copying Penny Wise from what what movie was that? The It? Yeah it. So he's like and he's recording himself doing things like snarling at the camera and like he's got the same makeup, and he's
leaving balloons places and things like that. Like I don't know, I don't know what you guys think about this. Are you guys scared? Hello? We all float down here? Yeah? Very scary? Thanks man, Thanks, We're gonna say ruckus. We all float down here. You know what's so weird? I was, he sure. Night the other night we went to we only have a few like local eateries in our town here, pretty small handful of places to go out and hopefully trust the food that you're gonna
get. And there's one that we've been going to ever since we moved here eight years ago. And we walked outside of it and it's a nice place. Jay and Jamie, you've been there, Rucus, you're gonna be there soon. It's it's it is a very expensive place if you go to the dining area, and there's also a bar area that has, like, you know, we're reasonable prices and discounts on drinks and things like that. And we've actually never been to the fancy side of the restaurant. We've only been
to the bar area where you can get the bar food. But when we when we left the place the other night, there was a dude that was not from our area sitting outside and he straight up said, oh, you guys must be really well off. You're eating in the most expensive place in town. Can you, you know, give me some work, give me
some money. Like it was like it was really strange, and I feel like this is like, I mean, our our town has changed a lot in the last several years, and I find that to be a bit scarier to have somebody stalking certain you know, eateies things like that, looking for people to ask for things from. Did he say, actually give me work? Did you say that? Yeah? Actually, oh really interesting. They usually like want money, but I never seen someone else they have work for
me. That's what he said, Ray Bright. I'm not going to be able to repeat everything that guy said in that conversation, but yeah, I take your points for but yeah, he did say. I mean, it was a very you know, convoluted sort of you know, a sad situation. You know, has a car but the car doesn't work, can't get work because he doesn't have a car, needs money to fix the car, to get to the judge, you know, you know the doom loop there. So he was experiencing that doom loop and came up with a couple of
creative ways to ask for help, you know. But definitely a little bit of judgment in there also about you know, you're in my capabilities to help, but friendly you know, I wouldn't. Yeah, no, no, I'm not trying to say anything bad about the guy, I'm just saying it's just the societal change. You're societal change where we have you know, people that are that I mean, you've been talking about this a lot on T and T. It's like, we need to look out for the citizens of
the United States. You know, that's what our government should be doing right now, and yet we're just you know, handing all of our taxpayer money over to other countries. And so, I guess my main main point is that I'm not afraid of the clown. I'm afraid of what's actually happening in our world. I thought you were going to say you went to a scot Test restaurant and they had some some hagis and that you were more terrified.
Why does everybody hate on higas. It's like people hating on like liver worsts because it's nasty. Bro, you just say liver Wars? Did you just recite? I love Liver Wars especially. I don't want any I guess from Hamish McGonagall. Outside of the bar. In my my previous hometown there, Albuquerque, New Mexico, menudo was pretty big. I've never had that either, But here it's fabruous. It's so good. Never had it. Yeah.
Oh anyways, back to the icebreaker. When I mentioned is the tod Jamie earlier she said that the time that she had been living in for many years was the first breaking incident from a creepy clown on the streets. It is that is literally like that whole situation is the epitome of fuck around and find out. Like if you come up to me with a clown costume and like when it's dark outside, you're gonna have a pistol in your face, like just straight up like do they do they not? I mean it's Scotland.
They probably aren't even allowed to have knives or some ship like the UK they have knives in Glasgow. Yeah they yeah, they they'll give you a Glasgow quess. You made a loglass smashed across your foot your face, Like,
who thinks? What was Wasn't there a recent there was a recent story about that because some dude was like making tiktoks and ship about, you know, running up and scaring people or some ship and he got shot and then like sued the guy like you come within a couple of feet of me in my face, I'm probably gonna pull a pistol on you too, that was Are you talking about the one that happened in the in the mall? Yes,
yeah, yeah, like the food court or something. Yeah, the the YouTube prankster went up to some guy, and you know, all these months later, we finally have video of it. You can actually see video as of like last week of the prankster going up to the guy. You can see the guy like, I mean, I don't think he had He's gonna have some legal problems for sure, but you can see the argument that he might be making if he has good legal counsel because he got exonerated,
didn't he did he? I don't know. Yeah, he got off. Oh really okay, got off. Yeah. And the and the guy that was smoked is still alive. He's fine. Yeah, got smoked in them all. Yeah. By the way, Limerick is the stabbing capital of Europe. Just so everybody knows. That's a nice fy. I got told me that when I went there. Here useless knowledge again, that's right, you know it so there and I don't know what the rules are. I'm not sure what city or town that happened in. The guy that shot him shot
the dude in the mall, but it was in Dulles. It was in it was in northern Virginia, Okay. In Texas, we have like the law is super kind of skewed. I guess you could say, it's not like there's a little bit of gray area there, but there's like the three foot rule. You have a personal bubble very easily, you know, justifiable here. People call it the castle doctrine and protecting your home blah blah blah.
But if somebody comes up to you, and I'll clarify this to be sure, within like three feet of your personal space, you have every right to defend yourself by whatever means you know necessary to handle the threat. I guess so unless unless, right, unless you're in Austin and you're dealing with a Black Lives Matter protester, then those rules don't count. Apparently, well nothing counts against Black Lives Matter because you know they're fucking, you know,
outstanding goddamn citizens. Yeah, Jay, do you remember when we first started seeing this stuff? Like how many years ago was this? You had to throw in my my penny wise? Are you talking about penny wise? Shit? What people? Are people dressing up like clowns and stuff? Yeah?
That was twenty fifteen, sixteen ish. I remember. I remember it was around the time that it was coming out the you know, Stephen King, the Part one, and I remember thinking, all right, it's this like viral marketing, and then I think people just kind of doing it to be be weird and create you know, TikTok and viral video clips and stuff, and it is a weird phenomenon. Then we had what a couple of shooters remember the Batman Joker or the Joker, not not the James Holmes, no,
the Joker Killer guy that like went and killed and killed people. Oh that yeah, yeah, incident like the weirdo like he didn't shoot you. I think a rampeople with a car or something. I forget exactly what it was, but there was another Joker Killer basically after or around the time that the The New Joker came out with Joaquin Phoenix. There was a Joker Killer anyway, right, Yeah, it's weird to see the clown meme com back,
but it does seem to. So I'm looking to see what the new Stephen King crap as is coming out, because I'm thinking, like, is it just another Stephen King film. He's a great PR Department. If this is all his doing it kind of made me think of your conversation with Bays today too. Mm hmmmmm. Serial killer stuff. Yeah, they remember they had the the bum killers too. They had the people going around killing all the homeless people. And one of those was the guy was a guy that
I mentioned today, this guy Escobar. He was like, I think they're deporting him. He killed five people, five homeless people. Yeah, in La right, right, Well, Infidel just dropped me a let me switch off my background here. Infidel just dropped me this one in the chat. So we got a bit of a timeline here, clowns in America, clown
world, timeline of scares and sightings. And boy, this is an older public he that says twenty sixteen that Jay was just talking about, right, Okay, yeah, so twenty sixteen, right before it came out, just like he was saying, it came out in twenty seventeen when the clowns began to surface, many guests they might be part of a gorilla marketing campaign for a horror movie. Now, after a summer of sightings, several clown related
threats, I almost said crown related threats. I think we have those two. But we'll save that robberies and close encounters involving children have law enforcement and communities across the country on edge. Some of the first clown sightings began back in June and August of twenty sixteen, stretching from the Midwest to the east coast through the south. In Wisconsin, Gags the Green Bay Clown gained virtual viral status after grainy photos of a clown surface walking the streets under cover of
night. Speculation was that GAGS and other clown sightings might be related to viral marketing campaigns for a movie, Haunted House or other entertainment product. Then clown sightings took a scary turn. In late August, win authorities in South Carolina began reports of a person dressed as a clown trying to lure children into the
woods. Deputies said they received several reports of suspicious characters dressed like clowns with white face paint, who were flashing green lasers and enticing kids with large amounts of money. Wow, money, huh Remember when it used to be candy? I got a se note, kid, I got a ce note over here. And then mid September, three children in Georgia told police about an
incident involving two adult men dressed as clowns. McDuffie County Deputies say Cameron Frale's twelve and his little brother are walking to a bus stop after six am when they were chased by men dotting all black clothing, clown masks and red wigs. Uh, and it just it goes on. There's there's one in Pennsylvania, there's Kentucky, Tennessee. I mean, geez, that's just you might
that's yeah, seriously be scared of clowns. I mean, wow, this is like, I mean, I'm it's kind of like pathetic that this is actually like making headlines because as far as I could tell from the article that I read, this guy has done nothing other than dress up in weird shit and make freaky faces at a camera and post it on his Facebook current. But of course, you know, back in the day, there was that serial killer that was probably the you know which today, Yeah, yeah,
Pogo, Pogo the Clown. There's a there's a photo. I know we've talked about this, probably talked about this every time the clowns come up. But there's a photo of John Wayne Gacy dressed as Pogo the Clown with U was that Carter's wife? I think it was President Carter's wife standing there next it is? Yeah, yeah, do you know anythink about that? What was the origin of that? I mean, do you know why he was there? I can't remember. It was like a party or something. Yeah,
he was involved in Democrat politics. He was like a party precinct precinct leader. Right, yeah, he was like big into party politics and all that stuff. Yep, you're right. Well, acts like quite a few serkillers, man, Yeah, what's up with that? Man? I just went blank, who's uh zach Efron when he was killing people? Buy? I don't know the actual scuse. I know that I know the actors of lam. Yeah. He was also a rising star in the GOP. So
yeah, that's that's what weird. Yeah. Well, and you guys were talking about how Dahmer too, don't remember Dahmer had that thing about calling the White House and he got the tour. Yeah, he talked to Mondale. He got direct direct access to Mondale's office somehow, which people know. But he served in uh, you know, the military, and got to a certain point where and when they were investigating him in Germany for mergers of a
curve while he was stationed in Germany. A high ranking US military official shut down that investigation. There's an actual cable about it, So yeah, interesting. I would say one one element just speculating, I'm sorry to cut you all off an means too, but one one idea is that aside from the conspiracy element of it, which I do, I do think is relevant. You know, politics, just like acting no offense b l A does attract you know, the narcissistic psychopath right Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I know that from experience. I know that. Wait, Basis is a psychopath pretty much? Yeah? Hello Sidney Kevin. Kevin Spacey was the artistic director of the of the parent theater of the My Drama School when I was there, So we rest our case on the psychopath wandering Wolf. What about you, man, what do you think about the reappearance here, I mean not less, especially in the media. What do you think about the media amp in this a little bit clown scares in America? Is it's just a
holiday phenomena for spooptober or is there something deeper going on? It does seem like misdirection to me, Although I will say one thing is the only thing about this clown. Thing that is frightening to me is the quality of the mad's rhymes. I mean, have you have you read some of the stuff that he said in the articles? I've got three really good ones here for you. The police have been informed. Do you think I care? They'd have to catch me first anyway, And yes, that's a Dare you know
how about this one? Well? Well, well I've made the news again. Should I smile for the cameras with my hideous grin? I'll spare you the rest of them. I think the clown needs to get a new agent. I you see, this is misdirection. Although wasn't there a case of a killer clown in Florida that earlier this year ended on a plea deal? Do you guys know about that one? I know gypsy crusader who was dressed as joker. That's sort of on the other side of things and was not
a killer. But that's the only want to know. Yeah, it was another thing I found Sheila Keene Warren. Apparently, this woman dressed as a clown, rocks up to sub woman's house with flowers in full clown regalia, rings the doorbell, The woman opens the door, and then she shoots the woman dead in front of her son. And this is a case that didn't make the news. So I'm I'm now going down on this clown rabbit hole to kind of see, okay, what else was going on around the time,
to see if I can prove the misdirection angle. Interesting. So this one you're talking about here, Florida killer clown case closes after thirty three years. Thirty three years okay, yeah, she look Warren pleads guilty to second degree murder while claiming innocence and doorstep murder of husband's former wife. Wow, that's crazy. So she was running free from nineteen ninety to twenty seventeen. Am I reading that right? Wandering Wolf? Yeah that's my understanding as well.
Yes, wow, yeah. So apparently this phenomenon dates back before twenty sixteen, although I do recall twenty sixteen there seemed to be a rash of them, but that's because a lot of people were having ring cameras installed, so they seem to be footage all over the place, including in my neck of the woods, of clown's terrorizing neighborhoods. But nineteen ninety's the earliest instance of this I've been able to find Yep, Yep, there you go.
In nineteen ninety, witnesses told investigators the two were having an affair, though both denied it. Detective said costume shop employees identified Shila Keen Warren as the woman who bought a clown suit a few days before the killing. One of the two balloons, a silver one read quote, you're the greatest. We've
sold at only one store, a public supermarket near Keen Warren's home. Well, it kind of makes you wonder, like this seems like it could have been a pretty easy case to close, Like why it takes so long exactly?
And it's sort of when I found this article that kind of disproved the threat that was going on in my mind, which is, so we live in this age now of dopamine available all the time twenty four to seven, because we've got these shots of glass in our hands, and so I was thinking, Okay, is this just the rationals I might say, irrational extension of us not getting the dopamine fixation from engaging with devices anymore, and now it has to go out into the streets, into meat space in order for
people to get that dopamine hit. But then I saw this nineteen ninety instance, and I began to question that. Yeah, understandable. Well, that's why it's worth peeling the layers back and looking at the timeline. Zooming out on the timeline a little bit infidel. What about you? Any anything else you want to throw out there on this one? No, no, truly, all right, it's uh, we'll see what comes out of it. It's Halloween season, so yeah, it's it's it's we're just hours away from
Friday the thirteenth minutes. I guess for you. Huh, there's one more clown. I don't know if he's killed anybody, but he's like the most successful bank robber in US history, the Too Tall Bandit, the too no no tell us. I put a link. I put a link right there in our chat. He's on the FED watch list and he's We've robbed many mini banks all over the country. He's six foot eight and he wears I think there's a picture of him in the article wearing a sort of a mutant
clown mask. He's always masked like a different thing. He's six foot eight. Yeah, that's a giant dude, that's not yeow. Yeah, he's the two he's the too tall bandit when you see his when you see his mask, it's it's pretty Friday and he hasn't been caught. I don't think I thought you're gonna see Biden first. Now, I'm dude, did the city see exactly the same thing? When he's like, old clown that's stealing? I'm like, oh, yeah, it took all Biden. Now,
don't think it was called neffort. What are those big creatures called neffort? It's sort of a skull skeleton. He's worn a clown mask before, not in that picture, I guess, But wow, it's more of a grim reaper type, I guess. But I want to know how he come on? How many yeah, how many six foot eight people are out there? Right? Come on? I mean you would think like going back into his neighbor's house in the neighborhood, right, and he's six foot eight and he's
like, I'm just carrying my grim raper clown mask. How you doing? Somebody would recognize him, but I guess probably the people he associates with their like, I ain't snitching. Fuck, no, you see ruckus? What about you? You stand with the clowns? Or no? Uh, maybe there might be something to this phenomenon esoterically speaking, I did a little research into this. Are you all familiar with sacred clowns? Perhaps maybe Kay in
the Cloud? So apparently thing, yeah there love that one. Their paradigm shifters apparently in some cultures historically speaking, if that's a good way to describe it. But I did find this one piece on here where they talk about it. Uh. They brought up there's something called the Nieweki, who are mud eaters, who were the Zuni equivalent of a sacred clown. Cherokee had sacred clown known as boogers, I'm not making this up, who performed booger
dances around community fire. In Tibetan Buddhimism. Buddhism they have something similar called crazy wisdom, where the guru adopts this crazy clown character, you know, personality in order to shock their students out of fixed cultural and psychological patterns. Then they say here that the most popular type of a sacred clown is the Lakota equivalent called the Hioka, a contrary thunder shaman who talked through backwards humor.
But they did point out what I wanted to share with you guys, is that almost all types of sacred clowns combined trickster spirit with shamanic wisdom to create a kind of sacred to tomfoolery that keeps the zeitgeist in check. Their methods are unconventional and typically antithetical to the status quo, but extremely effective. So the idea is that these things appear and are used to try to wake
everybody up and slap them across the face before it's too late. And considering the state of the world currently, maybe it's not by accident that we're starting to see some of them manifest in society. Just a suggestion. Yeah, the Commedia del arte archetype, the harlequin our li queen, now he does that. He functions as that and Renaissance Italian theater the fool in king Leir
are sort ofunctions is. I mean, he's not a killer, but he functions as the person who was supposed to wake up, wake up the kingler's status quo. He's a wise fool, he's a sophomore. He speaks the truth while the others become clowns. So he reverses the societal roles. Interesting, well, send in the clowns. I guess the timing couldn't be better, right, Yeah, well, okay, well we'll leave that one there unless anyone else wants to throw anything in on that, going once, going
twice. Yeah, kick the clowns out. All right, We're done, hopefully, and now we can talk about all the other clowns, the politicians, the bankers, the warmongers. My goodness, Where to begin? Now, let's go back to the other clowns there. Yeah, no, I prefer pennywise to our politicians, that's for sure. Well, where do you guys want to start? I'm I'm I don't even know. We've got a
lot going on. We just lost someone who we lose It's okay, all right, I'll say I'm gonna I'm probably gonna jump out before we get too deep into something. Well, okay, if you got to go, is there anything else you want to bring up tonight? Grunt? Really, I mean, the the fucking elephant in the room is We've all been talking about it. We've all been going across Twitter with it or X or whatever their lame shit is called. Now. I mean, there's been a lot of
threats about tomorrow. I don't think I'm not sure that many of them are quality threats. I guess you could say, but well, no, it's that would be that would be a rabbit hole that's too deep to uh doing anything other than of sticks hour podcasts. Well, I'll ask you real briefly here, Grunt, then just a quick one on that. Do you think the most likely thing is that tomorrow will be a normal day here in the United States as always, and everybody who was running around like chicken little will
now have a lot of people go and see you're crazy. You are an absolute MAGA influenced, weirdo conservative crazy person. Do you think that's maybe what it's going to be tomorrow? I am. I am fifty to fifty on this. I'm on the fence only because of our borders being as open as they are and the amount of people that we have caught on the Tarror watch list. It's a fifty to fifty shot. I don't think that this terrorist
group is you know, fucking around, so to speak. But at the same time, I feel like we with the amount of spying and all that that happens, something tells me that we would know if there was a serious threat. But then are they telling us if there is a serious threat? I don't know. There's just there's not there's not enough legitimate information out there that we can really sink our teeth into to say one word or the other. But I'm fifty to fifty. I think tomorrow is going to be interesting.
I know that the NYPD basically recalled everybody, no matter where they were at or what they were doing, to come in, So it's gonna be Tomorrow's gonna be interesting. I think there's gonna be definitely some lone wolf, little mini attacks, people just trying to be taking advantage of the media coverage.
But I don't think there's going to be anything super big. All right, Well, if there was, we wouldn't be surprised regardless of what has gone on in the Middle East this week with this many people flooding over the border. We've all been talking about it for a long time. But uh yeah, remains to be seen. Mm hmm yeah. All right, Well, uh do you need to punch out? Are you gonna hang for a bit? I'm I'm hang out for a lot, all right? Cool? Cool, all right, let me ask uh Jay Jay, what do you
think about this man? I'm finding you know, I heard Patrick talking this morning and him and it was either him and Christian or him and Basil. We're making a good point that we've got all these you know, quote unquote conservative influencers now who have monetized Twitter accounts, who make money, uh when
they tweet out the fear porny sort of stuff. You know. So like MTG, for example, is banking in some cash every time she tweets something uh you know, watch out for the terrorists sort of tweets that you've been seeing her do. What do you think about that? Factors like incentivizing people to participate, Well, I think the right wants to be ready for anything that happens, to be able to jump on that and say see we told you yeah, and look at you know, look at how Biden failed.
So that's the motivations for them. I can tell you that Twitter does not pay very well when you monetize it. So I've monetized my Twitter. I got paid one hundred dollars the first month, and I think I made fifty dollars the next month. So and those were months where actually I had quite a few you know, I had videos that had like two hundred thousand views
somewhere in there. So that doesn't pay that that much. But again, maybe if she's getting you know, ten million impressions, she's making a few few thousand dollars. I don't know, but I would say that anything that happens tomorrow was let they let it happen. So it plays into the overall
strategy of tension that they want to go with. Perhaps big events could marshal more support for Israel versus whatever's going to happen in the Middle East, and then that could lead to, you know, up time to finally do something with Iran. I mean, who knows, it might blow up into something big. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bomber Ran people are certainly excited right now. Infidel What about you, man, what do you what do you think about the threats of Jihati's cells waking up in
Europe and the United States tomorrow Friday the thirteenth. You mean, does you is that our CIA funded? Yeah? Those ones boom, I mean Hamaz that actually Israeli's and the CIA founded. Yeah, as Ron Paul famously said, years ago, Yeah, I don't know, man, I think it's uh, it's getting old. I would say, I don't think we need terrorists really to threaten America or right now, our own politicians destroying America from
within. Was their open borders, right whether it was coming from the southern border, or or terrorists from Afghanistan and flooding the country, or or they are illegals from Honduras, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, you have millions of people that are just flooding the country and they're going to create because one haveocurse the other right one way or the other right. So, but there's definitely I would say, there's a lot of hypes right
now, and then everybody is seeing it. And it's interesting, you know, because I'm coming from a from a different background, right because because I am you know, I used to be Muslim, right now I'm an Infidel, right but uh, you know, and I'm actually very outspoken against Hamas for a long time because they are actually cause a lot of issues and terrorist
acts in Egypt. In twenty eleven when the US was was was doing this color revolution in the Middle East, they were actually using the Muslim Brotherhood and their arm and in Palestine, which is Hamas really to cause a lot of havoc. And then they cause a lot of terrorist acts in Sinai and Irish like and in mid like eleven, twenty fifteen, twenty thirteen were able to you know, the Army intervened pretty heavily really to to put them down.
But back to your point, because I don't want to derail out. There is more to say there, but there is a lot of fear mongering, and I think they will they will try to use any excuse right now to start stupid war right which is, I have no idea anybody with any brain sell that think that US or even the Western countries combined can actually get an a World War three. Again, it's the East right now, Russia, China, Iran and can win. It's stupid, not in the state where
we are right now. So I think we did. My tweet, my last tweet today was like, I think we need to shut down our borders, we need to deport our illegals, and we need to focus on our economy and building ourself back and then now we can think again about the world. Other than that, just shut the fuck up. And that's my that's
my two cents on that. Yeah, I mean, if there's one thing that is very obvious, the rhetoric that we're getting from both of the power politics sides and all the mainstream media is one of get ready for, get ready to have to accept ethnic cleansing, war, battle fear, you know,
invasion, sleeper cells. And this is on top of get ready for you know, pandemics, financial collapses, famines, supply chain problems, and culture wars and you know, race wars right here in the United States, which is also unnecessary, also driven by those that want to do the fundamental change here. And I just can't believe it, man, I cannot believe
that we're literally as a nation experiencing long term chemical warfare. We've got over one hundred thousand people that have died from fentanyl here because of that open border. And you think about that number, you know, any number of people being poisoned, killed, bombed, or whatever. Oh, ruckus, that's pretty cool. Is horrible, but hundred thousand Americans and you know, it's
just like this little conservative talking point ruckus that is awesome. Yeah, And it is really interesting to see, you know, those people that keep preaching America first, America first, America first, and oh it's not fun. The Ukraine and everybody was against Ukraine and now just just see flash Israel and everybody's just running and and and lo, let's let's give them money, like like, you know, Israel first, not America first. I'm sorry it
applies. We don't have eight billion dollars to give to anybody right now. Yeah, because it's not it's not it's not America or it's not Americans first, it's America. America's like, at least the way I see it that America is is the politicians and the the fucking rich liberal retards that spend the money and trade the money and you know, do all the the illegal ship.
But they're not. You know, it's kind of like we've talked about before where they're like, you know, sixty percent of Republicans disagree with this, Like when the fuck did you ask me? You know, like, it's it's not, it's it's not They're not focused on the American people. They're focused online in their fucking pockets under the name of America. Yeah, yeah, which America about which whichever they all caps because it's corporation, whichever,
whichever one makes them the most fucking money. Can I also like say something, we should ban anybody from entering Congress if they have dual citizenship. Uh yeah, that's that's yeah. We could do that. We could put a cap on lobbying, we could put a cap on their wall street capabilities.
I mean, we've talked about this before. It's just amazing that some of these people have, you know, one hundred million dollars stock profiles, or in the case of New Jersey senator lined all the suits with one hundred dollars bills and silver bars and new Peloton exercise bikes. Listen, yeah, sure did you guys? Have you all ever taken one of those tests back in the day that they would make you take before you get a job.
It was we used to have to do it over the phone, actually, if I'm not mistaken, but sometimes it's a written test or might have been an online thing where it was like they would give you these scenarios. It was like a more morality test in a way. I don't know what the official name for this was, but like, like, do you agree with this statement or do you how do you strongly agree or strongly disagree with this statement? Susie thinks it's okay to steal? Do you agree or disagree?
And you're like what and based on the way you would answer those questions. They were creating a psychological profile to determine whether or not you would steal from the company that you were working for, is the gist of it. But how come we don't do such a thing for our damn politicians? Like, at what point do they have to pass some sort of like sniff test for corruption or giving a shit about their constituents. No, it's just it's all
about votes, you know what I mean. It's it's the most ridiculous process known to man, in my opinion. But their test is the skull and Bones ritual at Yale acceptance for the opposite. Yeah, Well, if there are laws about foreign you know, against foreign espionage, why doesn't dual citizenship
qualify as something you know, associated with that? I mean, are there there There must be I guess, plausible situations or excuses or you know, reasons why people have a dual citizenship that exclude them from being subject to foreign espionage. But it seems like there would be more scrutiny with that ship right right, Like today we spoke with with George Papadopoulos's wife. Her name is
Simona, and she was really interesting, nice Galt. She ran, well, you know, obviously there's all the stuff that happened with Papadopolis and there was some weird intelligent snaffoos there they brought him. You know, that's a
whole rabbit hole there. But she has been notified that she might have to use the FARA Act, the Foreign Agent Registration Act, something to do with her campaign, like she had a campaign in Italy, and it's just really weird because she was saying that there's only three other Italians that have had to register with the FARA and you know, she feels pretty much like they're they're doing that to her because she's you know, been and made a political enemy
and now she you know, tells her story and speaks out against these things and you know, tries to you know, had a campaign in another country. But it's like you look at Capitol Hill and it's like there's a lot of dual citizens up here, a lot of them that are not registered with that. So it's like, what the hell, you know, another sort of weaponized aspect of the government. Perhaps they're so it's fine for everybody that's a dual citizen of israel I guess, and most of the people that are
dual citizens of Italy but not her. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what we found out right. It's a it's a system that allows for those who serve the system to do whatever the hell they want. And if if you're labeled again as a system, they're going to find the tiny saying and then there we'll go after you. Yeah, man, Yeah, I just know the neocons have come out like blasting, dude. And and you know, just from getting in the car and driving to work and turning on the
local AM radio. I mean it's and then driving home to it just like for five minutes. It's insane. Yeah, it's you know, it's total Big nine. You knew right away when the stuf happen, you knew it would be Big nine terminology, you know, but it was it's failure of intelligence. How can anybody ask for evidence of these war crimes? What are you some kind of sick person? You're asking for evidence? Is what the ladies said today on the radio. I mean, and I think it's amazing.
It's also amazing for just to you know, to think about the fact that there are people who don't remember this from the last time, that it's the same same, exact sort of terminology and diction that they use, and then it was definitely a heavy flex to send that aircraft carrier over there.
It's useless, right, right. But I just figure it's like that combined with the seven you know, the immediate seven billion dollars that they sent in, you know, when you compare that with the seven hundred dollars to the American families in Hawaii, right, which you guys sort of just mentioned. But I also tend to think that, you know that the it's so hard
to predict the time the time scale for these sorts of things. It's like, oh, well, for it's Friday the thirteenth, you know, or tomorrow's you know, March twenty you know, if it's March twenty second, you know it's three twenty two, the big thing's going to happen, you know, But it never seems to occur on the timescale that we think it's gonna happen. So World War three, yeah, I don't know. I
don't know. You're right though, dude. I mean, if you look at Beck or Hannity or any of those those names, I mean, Tucker Carlson was on with Vivaik and uh, what's his face Daily Color Shapiro, and Shapiro had a mini fit like he had a full on. Shapiro's had multiple mini fits in I think he's not going to make it through this, dude. He's having Wobbler's right, vain is going to burst and he's just he's done, bro. Yeah, and he's mad because other people aren't being
as warhawkish as him. Other people are not as upset as him. So it's just like, I mean, he it's almost a that's kind of a leftist attribute, wouldn't you say, Jay to be like, you know, silence is violence or you know, the wrong words or violence. Like it's just it's almost I don't know, it's almost inverted. It's facts and logic, man, it's just straight but no emotions, right, straight fac logic, journalism and that's his thing, facts of logic, remember, right,
Yeah? Yeah, pull that tweet hashat if you have a second. So he got owned by community notes. You're muted, We can't hear you. Sorry, I'm gonna put it on screen and you can tell us what's going on here. Give me a second. I'm gonna juggle my virtual background, all right, uh boom, there you go. And yeah, so who's going around about that talking about that forty four babies, right, And then he posts this as an evidence, and then basically he got on by community
notes this is an AI generated image. Oh my gosh, it's about as good as the Mexican ET. I'll say that. So his his yeah is ah, wait, you think that et is not real? Maybe that's a big reveal tomorrow. I think we can all agree that the Mexican ets at least were not AI. Right, that's true. If the ET was part of Hamas and he's sneaking in, he's impiltrating, you might be onto something there. So for you out there listening, Ben Shapiro, here's what it
says. You want to says terror, extra terrorrestrial, extra terror. Rest. So Shapiro tweets out you wanted pictorial proof of dead Jewish babies. Here it is you, pathetic jew haters. Israel will minimize civilian casualties, but Israel will not allow the pieces of human shit who did this to live. Every ounce of blood spilled in Gaza is on hummas, okay. And then readers add context here, I do love this part about x H. This photo is AI generated. Uploading the image to GA n detector site AI or
not dot com proves the verdict. You can also look at the telltale signs, such as the distorted fingers, which is a usual indicator. And yeah, we've pointed that out before. We're looking at AI. Come on, man, come on, man, come on man, Can I just go ahead and say the obvious thing? Like I know that guy, He's like, he did he did this in response to all the people who are demanding the evidence. He's like, here you go, you you jew haters or
whatever he says. And I'm like, you're the one who seems like more interested in finding proof to back up your claim than the people demanding it. Brother, So yeah, calm down. Yeah, And he came was what's the other guy at the the senta of the vague? Oh yeah, you have. All of them are coming together now like a hole in chill on. Yeah, And isn't it funny? Wondering? Well, if I'll ask
you this one, isn't it funny? How? It's like I keep thinking about this And I'm sorry, if you've been listening to me on TNT's gonna be repeating myself a little bit today. But I keep thinking about that Overton Windows shift. We were talking about you and I s book about this earlier today where it's like, okay, Grunt, I know you gotta go, man, good night, thanks for being here tonight, dude. Oh absolutely, guys. Sorry that uh it's a little it's a little slow going,
but I'm still get my ass take by this job. So hey, man, get some rest, get out there, have a good have a good day tomorrow, and keep us safe from all those those terror cells coming over the southern border. Man. Don't worry. I've got plenty of things. Oh no, wait, I lost those in a boating accident. Right, yeah, I'm I'm as defenseless as everybody else. Yeah right, okay, all right, guys' peace out, Grunt alright, guys later, all right,
there goes Grunt, so wondering what I was about to say. Is it was like, remember when it was not okay for us to be anti vaxers, anti this, anti that, not okay for us to make cultural commentary on Trump Russia, not okay for us to make commentary on lgbtq A eight issues, all these things. And then somehow the conservative influencers all caught up and realized we were talking about the stuff that was actually going to change
our society or it just became okay for whatever. You know, Media mogul blessed these topics to be brought up and now, but now the new one is going to be this. They're talking about shutting people down for wrong think that. We've got these new digital media acts coming out of Canada, out of EU, out of Australia, New Zealand. They tried to do one here. They're trying again with various methodologies to get their disinformation board functionality up.
They're talking about clamping down on x dot com for people not talking about this topic right, this is this is uh and and it's like all the people that were late to the game saying, you know what, you lied to us about COVID, You'll lie to us about the VAS, You'll lie to us about A, B, C and D all the way back to whatever, and all of a sudden, it's like they just all believe all the media. All of a sudden, they believe all the intelligence agency talking
points. You know. And I'm not trying it again. I hate having a caveat this all the time. I'm sick of it. But I'm not trying to say everything's fake. But at the same time, these people are not able to recognize the war machine and the propaganda machine when it spins up and hold any sort of forbearance of judgment and decision. Yeah, I'm right
there with you. I mean, it's interesting. I always have to catch myself in these instances where I want to look at the artifice of things, and certainly not everything is fake, but enough of it is that it's difficult
to know where exactly you delineate. And as I've kind of I've really made a point to hang back and watch all this unfold and just focus on maintaining my grounding insanity wherever possible, I refuse to take a side, because I'm just trying to analyze the information as it's coming in, and I'm watching both sides converge in the degree to which they're fractured and into the degree to which
there's this reactivity. Pick a side, declare your side, Declare exactly where you stand on issue X, Y or Z, the current thing, whatever it is. And I count say that I'm at all surprised because I think
that this is the end point of media. I think that this has become such a pastiche of reactivity on all sides, that people have become conditioned to react to whatever they're presented with and identify themselves as one or the other tribe, and those of us who take a more measured approach and say, Okay, I don't know what I think about this yet where I stand because I
need more data. Right, we are really the odd men and women out here because we're actually trying to analyze and understand exactly what's going on in the environment. Now. What's interesting to me about all this as well is that, you know, I'm looking at a lot of articles trying to get some information about what they're predicting might happen tomorrow. And one thing that has come up multiple times is law enforcement in Idaho, Montana, and Utah working together
specifically on alert. They seem to be particularly hypervigilant about things that might take place on Friday the thirteenth. And I remember the last time we kind of talked about all of this chaos, the open border situation, everything going on, I made the comment that this seems like the perfect conditions for some kind of false flag because we're seeing chaos everywhere. So I'm starting to wonder with
both sides clamoring to identify with hypervigilance around this issue. Are they setting up the conditions for some kind of event that will then be used as casas belly for some police action on the part of the United States and the Middle East. That's what I'm looking for now, all right, Well, building on that, and then we'll go around the room on this one. One of the things that many people are concerned about, and I'd be lying if a
side. It hadn't crossed my mind too before I started hearing a lot of other people bringing it up. Is this idea of calling off the election, the twenty twenty four election, using something a scenario like you just laid out as a premise to call martial law, call off the twenty twenty four election, and then boom the Democrat, the so called Democrat Party. I'm just
going to say, the uniparty, the current uniparty off. Both sides have power until this is done, resolved, whatever whatever comes on the other side of it. I mean, what do you think about that? I mean to me, if that's the case, if that's really a plan that we should be concerned about. It seems like Friday the thirteenth tomorrow or tonight, almost in four minutes. If you're a Jay and Jamie or Infidel or based, it seems a little unlikely because we still have you know, a number
of months, or you know, does it just get bad? You know? Okay, first off, do you think that's possible? Do you think that could be a thing that you know should be looked at in that scenario, I, for one, do, I absolutely think it's possible. I think that given the degree of chaos that we're seeing and the degree of chaos that's been predicted, I think that there's a likelihood of something like that occurring.
I also think it's something that they would have to build up to so that they would have to be a chain of incidents that create the sense of desperation that gets people to clamor for that moment of apotheosis. Right, something must be done. We need a mandate. So I don't think it's going
to be an isolated incident. I think it'll be a series of incidents that seems so unprecedented and so improbable, maybe even impossible, that it gets the people on both sides to say, suspend everything because we need a sense of safety. Again, it's just like the like we've talked about from the standpoint of how mass shootings are reported on. I think it's the exact same chain of understanding. Yeah yeah, Jay, what about you? What do you
think about that scenario there? This whole suspend the election blah blah blah. I think that's something we're up against. Well, I've been hearing that since probably the Obama election. The first time I remember, Oh, they're going to suspend the elections and blah blah blah. So this is this is every election cycle you hear this, there's going to be emergency martial law. However, if there's ever been a time where I think it's actually possible and likely,
it's now. Yeah. Yeah, I think anything goes. I agree with Tucker that the next twelve months are going to be insane. Probably. I've gotten to be not best friends, but good good at least regular communicator with Colonel McGregor's son, Cameron McGregor. He's a really good I can nomics
and geopolitical analyst. He mainly focuses on economics, and he has a really good track record, and he thinks there's going to be like like Biden won't be there much longer, and there's going to be like big economic problems, so so it may shift over into economy and not war, or they may ramp up war to distract from the economy. But yeah, I think they you know, the Integrity League said that at all costs, Trump cannot be
president again. And that doesn't mean because I'm I think that Trump is like I'm not a huge you know, like if Trump's going, I'm not a big maga person. But that is what was in the Integrity Leagues. Do anything to prevent Trump? Do you remember that? Like it says that we can't we we the global eleague can't survive another Trump election? Right, Well, I agree with you. If ever, we have been told that one for many many cycles now, and but if ever it did seem more plausible.
Yeah, now seems to be the time. What do you think, Infidel about the election canceling elections? Yeah, this idea of like having you know, terrorist attacks here in the United States and using that as a premise to call martial law, cancel elections, that sort of stuff. Yeah, I mean again, I heard that floating a few times. I think they
will try to do all kind of shenanigans. Really to either like divert that election, right, something that happened to get everybody to vote by mail again to insure that another twenty twenty happen, right, or for me, that's more realistic scenarios and than actually canceling the election. But I think we're heading
very soon actually to more dangerous scenario. I know, I which movies the pers the beginning, you know, I don't know if you so that one the beginning one right of that fit to fail party system, and then basically
you have that new founding father party that comes up. So I think people are feeling that and actually we're heading to that direction pretty soon with with with the lawlessness in the in the country, the economical collapse that that we're about to see we're about to witness, uh, which actually will be more of a if they do anything, will be more divergence from the economical collapse and actually the collapse of our dollar values that we're about to see and hit us.
I think that that's more of a global catastrophe happen around that actually to divert use more than just elections. But that scenario of that purge the beginning hits me more than anything I don't know why. Uh. Jethrow in the chat says, why cancel the election when you have mastered the art of getting the outcome you choose? That is a very very good question worth considering their Jethro. They have this down to a science. Now we've honed in on
how that all works. It's a giant network of corruption and partisans in the legal system, in the in the judicial system, judges, das, county recorders, secretaries of state, and a few other positions that make these these selections, these outcomes come out the way that they have been based. What about you, man, what do you think. I think everything's on the table. I mean, you know, three years ago the entire world shut
down everything everywhere, and so anything's possible. I think it's interesting in terms of a terrorist attack. You know, I want peace and on earth and goodwill towards men. But I think if in terms of a terrorist attack,
it's interesting. We just had the you know, the emergency testing and all this stuff, and I a cyber polygon is in the back of my mind with all this stuff, and I wonder what sort of you know, terrorist attack it would be probably I'm guessing probably not a large scale Big nine type event, but some sort of you know, localized attack on the on the infrastructure, on the power grid where people are at a loss, you know, and don't know if anything towards canceling, you know, talking about canceling
elections because there's no communication, everything's chaotic. Combined with the economic crash or leading to an economic crash, it seems like that would be completely on the table. So yeah, yeah, and hopefully not. Yeah, yeah, what do you well, you know, it's like food, energy, finance, what else, culture, gasoline. Yeah, all that stuff is like in the balance, the combined with before all the combined with an absolute attack
on morale, you know, anesthetic terrorism in every possible area. Uh, the complete demoralization of the United States at the very least or uh people.
You know, it's like with the clowns, you know, clown it's it's total that led into complete clown world, right, Uh, the apotheosis of clown world, which just seems too We've had a little bit of a lull and now Ukraine, you know, the Ukraine thing is like almost completely evaporated in the media, and now it's shifted over to the place where it always goes over which is which will come back home hopefully not but hmm yeah, yeah, and just quickly Heshi, I mean, I wanted to kind of
bring this back around because it's been a while since we talked about it. The last time we talked about this, you know, it was in the context of the daily shooter events that we've covered for years. But as I was watching how this propaganda is deployed, I kind of theoretically developed some stages, and I've been applying this as a rubric to all of this reporting that's gone on over the past three four days, and I thought it might be
good time to bring it back because I think it still applies. So you have an incident that occurs, and immediately after that, the next stage culturally is the performative outrage. So we see this voyeuristic display of pure emotion. There's no logical analysis of the event. People take signs, battle lines are drawn, and then we go to the next stage, which is reckoning.
In repetition, there's an obfuscation of facts, usually due to an abundance of information, but not necessarily Conflicting accounts seem to disappear as the information is coalesced into the next stage. This singularity, which is when you get a unified narrative of the occurrence that everyone is pressured to agree to. After that they move into the next stage, which is the revelation. So there's usually an unmasking that occurs. Known wolves are identified and called out, and everyone is
invited to reference those known wolves everywhere around them. And then the next stage being the apotheosis, which is when the narrative that's been unified about Incident X gains pre eminence and glorification and it becomes sacred religious and anytime people refer to it, there's this cultural unified understanding of the event what it means, and there's a whole canon of horrors that are attached to it, everyone knows.
And then that leads to the final stage, which is the mandate, this idea that something must be done and people will sacrifice anything to have that sacred
call to action answered. Rinson repeat yeah. And with regard to some of these calls to action, Ruckus has put in a couple of reminders in our private chat over here about exactly that those sort of reactions that we are as free people, free liberty loving people a little bit concerned about and they're happening in places like UK, Germany, this sort of thing, but you know, I mean it's bad so Germany talking about arresting people for desecrating Jewish flag,
BBC in trouble for not calling Hamas terrorists properly, and sky News taking a lot of flak because they seem to be one of the few that are willing to push back in the media there, and all this in the environment where they're trying to bring in extra hate speech laws, extra regulation. Look at the bill in Canada in particular that we've been looking at for the last
few months. That's going to make people. I don't know what the exact stipulations in it are, but it's like, you know, if you have more than a thousand followers, you have to have the Canadian equivalent of an FCC license to have a podcast or a YouTube channel or this kind of stuff. And then there's all this gray area about well, wait a minute,
the Internet is worldwide. What happens when you start taking entire continents and removing inherent rights that people in other countries have While you know, these our own governments working to create disinformation boards and using its intel services and federal law enforcement and political agencies to tell social media platforms who to censor. So that's extremely disturbing. What's a Jewish flag? What do you mean, like, what's
a Jewish is it you're talking about the Israeli flag? Yeah? Sorry, is it called a Jewish flag? Now? I don't know. Yeah, the Israeli flag. But it's funny that you bring it up because it's one of the only flags I know that has a religious symbol on it. That's that's an interesting, uh sort of side note. Yeah, that's that's why, like again, tying anti Semitism was was was Zionism is just ridiculous. Mmmmmm, I have to bring that narrative. Yeah, the flag of Scotland
is a Christian flag. There you go, all right, Andrew, there you go, Irish flag, a cross of Saint Patrick. Okay, one thing just kind of a stretch, but to put it in context, I mean reading I just finished reading War of the Worlds, and it's interesting that one thing that Wells brings up in the book is the response to invasion.
I mean, the book is written kind of when we're sort of at the at the beginning of the modernist era, and you know, the climax of colonialism, and the one thing that the English didn't fear was invasion, you know. And so one thing that is interesting in the book is the response to the invasion, because he makes like a quarter of the book throughout the book is descriptions. Is a description in various places of like this juxtaposition,
juxtaposition between like the pastoral landscape and the death clouds that occur. And he's constantly making reference to these things. He's like, I'm looking out the window and I see the idyllic landscape of you know, the Cotswolds, and then on the right, I look and here come the death rays of the alien invasion. So the alien is like the other right coming in. I mean, he's literally talking about aliens in the book, but it's a you know,
it's figurative. It can be figured. There's a figurative meaning as well. But the response is like they fit. The response fits into like a few different categories. One is that people are completely caught off guard and they don't want to believe what's happening. And the other is that people go crazy and they loot and pillage and rob and there's drunkards in all the villages and
people are sort of going insane. And the other is that there's a military response, right, but people are they're they're shelling the alien crafts and they could you know, and the cylinders, the falling stars, the cylinders, but they like, people are watching this happen, but they're still they won't
believe that it's happening. So he has to, like it's this psychic break that occurs in the speaker where he's trying to he's trying to like delineate between things, and when he comes across people, he has to keep his logic. And I think that that's interesting in light of you know, orson Wells is broadcast, right, which was time and with intelligence and the sort of test of how people would deal with a quick invasion or a quick event.
And I think that it speaks volumes for if something were to happen. I mean, we've seen this already now, but it was sort of also over a progression of time. But if it were to happen quickly, I think it would probably mirror that perfectly. And these are called shocks, right, there are future shocks that Tavistok studied and talked about, and in fact, the Hadley Cantrell that did the Invaders from Mars was working in the Princeton Research
Project to study that very event as part of a Rockefeller funded study. So that was a study in terror basically, and so future shocks, which can be culture shocks or actual terror shocks, are all part of that maladaptive process which Tavistock has mastered. So that's the purpose of those big shock events. And you're absolutely right to compare it to the War of the World's broadcast psyop and that's why they will probably continue to rely on, you know, terror
Allah Gladios to elements, mm hmmm, yeah, yeah. And I was at ruckus. Do you want to jump in there? You're all got your camera all set. It looks good now, tripod And the funniest thing was, as I was pulling out the tripod, in my mind even before bas was talking about the unlike, this reminds me of the War of the World's uh spacecraft. Very weird. That's what it looks like too. It's creeping me out, uh because it's got like this camera. You guys would have
to see this. The camera is really tiny, so the whole thing looks very bizarre. There you go or the world's love it. I'm very concerned with the narratives on this one and where they're going to take it, because I don't think they're, for lack of a better word, I don't think
they're fucking around this time. And by day, I don't mean Hamas, I mean the powers that be. I think that they've they we're well past the point now thanks to the COVID bullshit, where they're going to be like, oh, we're going to subtly project our punches and only the people who are paying attention they're going to get it. No, they have literally been telling us in our faces, no questions asked about what's happening and what's going
to go down. I mean, I don't know if you all noticed, but we've moved from the subtleties to hey, we're just going to tell you now, and if you're too stupid to even hear us telling you to your face, then you literally deserve what's about to happen to you. They've already come out and invoked nine to eleven one hundred times sideways till Sunday over this event. They said, this is our nine to eleven is what Israel said. This makes nine to eleven. This is ten times worse, one hundred
times worse that they are telling us exactly. Yes, I hate to say it, but I'm ninety nine point nine to nine percent sure some event will take place tomorrow, if not multiple events, But I can't say how many. I'm going to guess probably none are at organic. They will be false flags. This is the moment, is ripe. This is what they're doing. Then they're probably gonnaf and do it. They ain't mess it around anymore. They're trying to throw Trump in prison. I mean, look what they're
speaking in prison and Trump. Look what they've gone to the jan six ers. This lawfair crap. I don't care what you think about politics. This is happening, you know what I mean. This is real. This is scary shit going on right now. And then this in the middle of it. And look how quickly and how hard we keep referring to this the forty be headed children's stories being like the Incubator Baber. No, this is nothing like the Incubator Baber story. Okay, this is that story alone is a
million times worse than the incubator story. As we didn't have the social media when they did the incubator story. I remember the incubators. I remember kids in my classroom crying who had to go home from school that day when we heard that news and we were like an eighth ninth grade I can't remember what it was. I mean that emotionally wrecked teenager's hearts and minds, people's mind And that was before the Internet. That was before this three sixty five in
your face Twitter universe. I mean, people have been forced to watch graphic images. We were just shown like allegedly a burnt baby. This is some serious shit. They are not fucking around and they are going to do something. They are gonna They would not throw that out there if they weren't ready for whatever they're doing and what I think they're trying to do. Call me crazy, Call me a conspiracy theorist, call me a Christian, but this
is biblical. There really are They really want to start some all out holy war if if Israel over reacts the way that I suspect Israel is going to react, that's the one I'm more afraid of than the terrorists, because let's say there is a false flag. Now, they went over the hearts and the minds of all the Western world and the military and the money. And sorry, Zelinsky, you got to sit on the sidelines now. For sure, they will cut him off. Mark my words, It's all going to
be Israel, Isral Israel. But I think Israel is gonna like a you been saying, Hesher, They're gonna glass that place. I think they are going to do something so horrendous to the people of Palestine that it is going to spur a natural reaction from a huge portion, a huge, a large population on this planet. I e. The Muslim Islamic religion. They are they are you watch. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. I think we really passed the point in no return on this one.
I hate to say it, but I gotta share that. Yeah. No, if they if they wipe that piece of land off, I mean
no, why is no one? And it's like, is are all the politicians so fucking stupid that they can't see down the road where It's like, yeah, there's pretty much a political science theory here that if you do something like that, you kill two point three million p people, fifty percent of which are eighteen years old and under, who are living in those conditions, it may have a unifying response from Iran, from other places, from the
entire Arab world, I mean, Infidel Maybe you could weigh in right here. What do you think you know, I've never been there, but you know a lot more about the region than I do. What do you think would happen if like, what do you think would happen if you know, if they just nuke the whole place or destroy the whole place. Uh yeah, So a couple of things. Number one, what they are doing right now and as by bombing is not targeted ouramas hamas a underground. Their weapons
is underground. They have shit ton of tunnels in the cities. And I want to tell you that Israel will be scared to go into as was was ground troops because they're gonna lose because basically, go in, you're gonna be doing street fights that army is not equipped for that. They have few commandos like teams maybe, but you get into like situations like this, your street
fight, they have like tunnels everywhere. Those are people like desparate and you already prime them to to to just so, I don't think they're going to go and ground. So we'll see how it goes. But their game has always been like they want to push other and it's specifically Egypt that that's a player they've been trying to play. And there's multiple deals that they tried to
do before. We're basically getting Egypt to give a piece of Sinai and basically it's smallest trip where they basically can migrate all those Palestinians in there, right and and and and then they can take the rest of the land from their side. But I mean, Egypt is pretty firm right now, even from opening any borders to US or any people to come in, So I don't think they're planning on doing this anytime soon. It's definitely going to create more
hatred, you know, toward the Middle Eastern people. Right they say why people in the Middle East hate Israel. It's really I don't think people hate Israel or people hate Actually people don't hate Jewish people. People hate Zionism.
Right. They hate the idea of state that forced itself in there. Right now, we accept that it exists right now in instead of working on a solution that guarantees the existence of the original estate that they came in right now, they want to just fully wipe it right, which which is not going to guarantee anything. And at the end of the day, they are and waged in this area and they don't have a way out, like like where are they gonna go? Are they they cannot nuke anybody, right, because
they're gonna be nuking themselves, right. It's just such a small area. And and again I doubt that it's gonna be World War three over this because I don't think US can support, can can actually afford the World War three. We're such an our military is such a bad shape right now, our economy is in bad shape. The West is just lost so much that and there's the support of the Ukrainian war right that I don't think we can afford it. And what we did is we hardened a lot of those Middle Eastern
countries. We hardened Iran with the sanctions we did for Iran. Iran is producing everything and all backfired. Every place we've done on Iran have so much technology right now, and it's so advanced and it's all into Iran gives weapons to Russia. Now. Yeah, So like that notion that that you seem like like a freaking aircraft carrier to go on bomb errand that's stupid, especially if it's in the the Mediterranean Sea, which is so far away from Iran.
Anyway, it's I don't know, but but but you know, it's it's the gut reaction always is to support for past. And again I don't I personally, you know, like I think Hamas has hurt those Palestinian more than anything, right Uh it Actually they put them in place to to to counter eggs a liftists and and and and the thought back in the days right and and and you see big shift and even in the Israeli policies after this nineties, right after Sabin and he they wanted to actually find the solution,
and then now we have like Nitan Yaho and and and and and and these other people right now. Was also one thing I want to just I know I'm jumping between topics, but there's a lot of turmoil that's happening in Israel. So don't think that that is something like this, because number one question is like how the hell and Moosa didn't know about that? Yeah, this is hell, they didn't know about that. Let me three days before they
even warned them. Yeah there might be something. Let me don't forget your path here. I want you to continue your thought, but I just want to agree with you right there and say this, this is their nine to eleven in the sense that it might be an inside job, and it is their nine to eleven in the sense that it was we're to believe we have to have belief and faith in government intelligence agencies and politicians telling us that this
was a massive intelligence failure. I'm sorry, I don't have the ability to have that belief. Carry on, Infidel, No, And where did they get their weapon? Did you really get it from it? On? So? How did they bring it inside Gaza? Right? I actually believe that they got weapon even from Israel itself, because especially with all those weapons coming like us, they're finding it's US weapon. Either it was in Ukraine or
Afghanistan. How did they make it there? Right? So, But anyway, so the point I was saying is there's a lot of turmoil inside Israel. It said, yeah, I was under big pressure. Right, So, I don't know what are the motivations for something like this, right, whether to to to divert attention, whether to I didn't know what it is. But but whatever the motivation for it, it's going to backfire. That
That's all what I can say right now. And it's actually, if anything, it actually proved how weak the Israeli Army is and that fake image that they were putting for this Iron dome, and it's failed from like freaking five southern like rockets, right, got overwhelmed and I didn't function after a few rockets, and and and then the army was some of the images, how
they surrendered it just the whole optics of its is bad. And I think what's happening in Gaza right now is nothing more than saving face and just killing as much Palastinia as possible for them to save face, right, But it's not hurting Hams. Yeah you can't. I mean they told us we needed. They gave us similar images of violence and against civilians and stuff in Iraq,
in Libya and in Syria, and then when it washes out. I mean, Jay, think about how many Sunday wires we did between like twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen regards to the events in Syria, breaking down the propaganda in Syria, going so far as to send people we knew there, you know, and then have them on ACR and report with them, right, And twenty one wire and how many pieces of war propaganda we found. I
mean, just look at the case of the White Helmets. And I was listening to patstee boy, yeah, Omron Dusty boy, right, all that stuff by barrel bombs and all that stuff. Right, What's what's your question? I mean my question is like, how can we drive it home that we've been lied to over and over again and we've pointed out even to the point in previous conflicts where we can point to a group like the White Helmets who's providing all of our you know, the lion's share of the most inflammatory
audio and video and then narrative wrapped around it. And then knowing that that was they were getting millions of dollars from from the US, from NGOs and from government. And I was listening to Patrick talk today about this, and I can't remember the name of the agency, but he's already like found the analog to the White Helmets out there in Israel and they're known for you know,
similar operations. Right. Well, it's not surprising because you know, this is how these kinds of conflicts are partitioned and maintained, and you know there's a long history of As. I think Infidel was already discussing. You know, Hamas comes out of the creation via British intelligences running of the Muslim Brotherhood and then the CIA in Israel itself creating Hamas. In fact that I found the twenty nineteen statement from Yahoo where he says that it is important to
support Hamas because Hamas is the thing that prevents a Palestinian state. I don't know if you saw that quote. That's a pretty that's a pretty devastating quote right there, because you know, kind of gives away what's going on here. So, yeah, the intelligence failure is completely suspicious given the echoes of
nine to eleven. And I totally agree with that analysis. And that's you know, part and parcel with how the the false flags and the fake news are run, which again we've seen going all the way back to twenty fourteen with the my don Ku and then twenty fifteen sixteen Syria. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I just posted a link. Is this new just nineteen minutes ago is Reel awards the war is the evacuation of one point one million people from northern part of Gaza. Yeah, let me bring that one up here.
Hey, I'm gonna have to let you guys go. I'm I got a super bad headache, so hey, thanks for having me. It was a great chat tonight. Yeah, Jay, really appreciate you being here tonight, man, missie, And hope everything is good when you wake up with your brain hope it feels good. And uh yeah, well we'll do this again real soon. Okay, Yeah, let's suit again next week. All right, that week awesome? Yeah, I bet dein right later. All right, you guys gonna talk to you Afidel and Bla and everybody else.
Good night, all right, Jay Dyer. Okay, punching out. Okay, let's see, it is getting late. Don't let me keep anybody up too late here. But yeah, let's uh, this is a little clunky tonight because I have to turn off my virtual background to bring on my secondary monitors. So I apologize for the grops and glitches there. But here we go. Yeah, I guess beys, do you want to say it?
Breaking breaking news, folks, We have the documents here. Israel's military on Friday directed the evacuation of Northern Gaza region that it's home to one point one million people, about half of the territory's population. Within twenty four hours. This is from October thirteenth, twelve or five am. This could signal an impending ground offensive, though the Israeli military has night you confirmed such an appeal. The order delivered to the UN comes is it ual presence and offensive against
Hamas militants. You and spokesman Stefan Dujarak called the order impossible without devastating humanitarian consequences. Earlier, Israeli military pulverized the Gaza Strip with air strikes. Visit by Anthony Blinkn along with some shipments of US weapons, offered a powerful green light to Israel to drive ahead with its retaliation and gaze after Hamas' deadly attack on civilians and soldiers. Israel's halted deliveries of basic necessities and electricity to Gaza's
two point three million people when prevented jury of supplies from Egypt. All right, now there you go. Right after Friday, the turn the thirteenth begins. Yeah, like right on Q where you were just literally talking about this, right, not funny. I'm not laughing because it's funny. Yeah, I know, it's it's laughing at the absurd world that we live in.
Yeah. The clownish factors. You know, it was the historical Friday the thirteenth, that was on October as well, you know talking about the templars, Ye, templars when they rounded them up. Yep, it was October.
I forget the year it was. It was October thirteenth. In the twelve hundred is the destruction of the total destruction of the templars at the hands of the Yeah, but I can't remember how how long it was in advance, how many months or weeks that the king had sent out letters to all the constables giving them the secret orders to arrest all these people on that day, So everyone it was a plan ahead of time. They all had this
like sealed orders to do this thing on this day, thirteen fourteen. Grandmaster Jacques de Malay I did a stream on this called Utremare, which is the term for the Holy Land and during the crusades, Yeah, and the sea and the seizing of all of their wealth. But yeah, you're right, that was preceded by a long period of torture and confessions. Yeah, confessions to that. I believe that the date holds some sort of significance with the
elite secret society types who definitely do have a hand in this. I keep dropping about this in the chat, but I'll bring it up now on air real quick. But it's actually something I learned from Bill Cooper back in the day. There's also a pretty popular book about this where the guy at least talks about it in this book as where it's well known for him because there's
dispute whether or not this thing is real. But the book was called Satan Prince of This World by former naval officer William Guy Carr, and he quoted in there or referred to and discussed an alleged letter written by none other than Albert Pike, super freemason, you know, high degree, kind of a kind of a big deal, kind of a Nazi kind of KKK guy too and all that. But apparently he wrote a letter to an Italian politician by
the name of Giuseppe Mazzini. The letter was dated August fifteenth, eighteen seventy one. In the letter so it claims to basically break down three world wars, all the plans and how they would lay out. I want bore you with part one and Part two, but part real World War was one and two basically happened exactly as predicted, but the third Global War, according to Pike, would be fought between the West and the leaders of the Islamic War.
Or more specifically, let's see how is the word basically that the Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agent tour of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic world. Wow, bring in eighteen seventy one prophetic. Yeah, seems to fit into the hole there, square block, square hole. What do you think, wondering Wolf? Yeah, I was just kind of going through and reading
this letter. It's absolutely fascinating. It does seem to fall in lind with how we've seen events unfold. A couple things that jumps out at me, though, was when he's talking about leaders of the Islamic world. My first thought was, you're talking about a larger percentage of the human population than just what is in the Middle East, because that also encompasses parts of Asia,
so the potential conflagration in that context could be massive. I'll just read one quick quote that also jumped out at me about unleashing all the nihilists and atheists to provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which, in all its horror, will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery,
and of the most bloody turmoil. And then later he talks about this manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time. Now, that is interesting when you consider that the context of all of the people drawing battle lines
and identifying with one side of the other and fracturing into small tribes. How many of the people who are clamoring for an escalation of the conflict on both sides are atheists, nihilists, secularists. I don't know. It bears for the scrutiny. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. I guess I see that you're having a tech issue there. We'll know what happens if you turn into a pumpkin here once it hits midnight. That would be spooky. That would
be very spooky. Yeah. I don't get frightened, everybody, but my battery might die on my laptop and I can't recharge it midstream right now, all right, noted, infidel, let me ask you, considering this breaking headline here Israel orders the evacuation of one point one million people from the northern part of Gaza. What does that terrain look like? I'm told there are fences everywhere. You can't just leave. I mean, given there's probably some
holes punched in the fence at this point. But what happens when someone who has been in Gaza for the last five days with no power, no water, no food. What happens to them when they evacuate? What does that look like? Can you give us any context there? Well? Do you? First? Do you know what is a square area of Gaza? It's not all that big, is it? It's like seventeen square mile? Yeah,
it's like slightly bigger than the city of San Francisco or something. Let's see how big is San France. I think that's like seven square miles. It's actually really small. But I mean, actually, if San Francisco's forty six point nine a square miles, oh, I stand correct, all right, Yes, it's almost like three times size actually, And how many people live there? Like two million people? Yeah, two and a half two
points So what are you going to evacuate this one? Let's say I don't know how many people live in there, Yeah, in that area, Like what are they gonna go? Well, that's what I'm getting at. Like I've heard some conservative types say, well they can just you know, go to neighboring Jordan, like you know, pick a name out of a hat. But I'm like, well, number one, is that even possible?
Those borders are something I can't even comprehend. And number two like if you can get outside of Gaza, which in and of itself might be uh impossible, too difficult, what are you in? Are you just in a desert? Do you you know you even have five days? I mean Gazza bordering Sinai and Egypt, so that actually a whole like eastern side is Egypt,
so what what's a Sody's a western side is Egypt of Gaza. So and it was very clear both Jordan and Egypt they said they are not opening their borders because that's what they really wanted is they wanted to basically get those two million people out of Gaza and this person in Egypt and Jordan, which which is not going to happen. Egyptian are not going to allow that to happen. Yeah, So what like one point one million people are supposed to just
walk out of Gaza. Yeah, exactly supposed to in the day. They have one day, you have one day. That's I think that's what I was looking at that the that the message that they posted. I mean they said, yeah, they said they cannot come back until they they let then I don't know, I think I I don't again, I I don't think it's for a ground in region. I still doubt that they're going to go. I agree they're they're going to use air air superiority, They're going to
use artillery. There are what's about Yeah, WAPO and Reuters and all these people reporting, is really using white phosphorus sausphorous. Well, they used this in the past, it's not this is not the first time. If that is the case. Ye, Well, C I A and M I see loves white fox sprang white phosphorus on weddings and DU they like to use DU two right, depleted uranium rounds that you know. So so yeah so hashar so. Yeah, there's really like it's it's it's a meaningless exercise because there
is no place for these people to go. Yeah, it's too bad. It's not right between us and Mexico right wondering wolf, because we'll t we'd take them. We're we're wide open. Well, you guys in Gaza can't hop on the flight t W eight hundred and make your way over to Bogata real quick. I mean, this is the attitude we're seeing from from people. It's like, you know, your ben Shapiros of the world are just like, ah, just crush the place, vomit glass. It tell one
point one million people to get out there. That's approximately the number we'd need to say that we didn't kill a million people age eighteen and under. I mean, ah, dude, it's it's just I don't know. I mean maybe, And that's why I'm asking Infidel and you guys like am I dumb? Am I for not just jumping on the Hey, We're gonna get all the Hamas out of there with white phosphorus and bunker busters and this is gonna
be great. And then we'll go on over to Iran and drop some bunker busters there and you know, make the dreams of John McCain come true from the grave, and then it's all gonna be hunky dory, you know, I mean, where the fuck is the foresight in people just to see where this all goes, you know, regardless of taking a side. I don't think there's foresight. Honestly, don't think new cons and the people in power
right now have any foresight. I think these people are ideologues. They are they think there were still they still I don't know, really, I don't know how they think. There's just no foresight. There is no even logic, yeah yeah, there is, Yeah, yeah. I don't think that that logic really applies to them. I think that it's performative. They're performers. They're strutting and fretting their hour across the stage, you know, that's
what they're doing. And they're playing to their base. They're doing everything possible to ensure that they continue to be elected into their positions and be positioned to line their pockets. I think that's really what it's about. As far as the evacuation order is concerned. I look at that and I just see that as plausible deniability. Oh hey, well we warn them before we dropped white phosphorus and bunkery busters and everything else in our arsenal on to one point one
million people. We tried to warn them. We tried to follow a code of conduct, even though of course we knew that they really goodn't escape. That's that's all it is to me. It's it's it's paving the path so that most of the international community won't condemn them for what comes next. I'm afraid. So I think that's astute observation there. Based I saw a bit of a grimace on your face when we were talking about the logistics of getting
that many people out of that space. You know, I know, you're, like many of us, a pretty big hearted person, and and that's kind of a hurtful thing to think about, you know, even more so than unfortunately, if if their numbers are all above board, the you know, thousand plus people that are already dead on both sides. I mean, this is orders of magnitude we're talking about here, you know. Yeah.
Well, my grimace was because I know a family who has a house in the West Bank, and I taught well i'll just say I taught many members of the family, and they go there every year and they when this broke out, I called I called one of them, one of my old students, and talked to him and said, please tell me you're not there right now, and they when they you know, when they I'm not trying to be uh overly emotional here or sensitive about this, but I just about you
know, individuals I care about. I mean, when they when they go to visit their home there, you know, they fly into Jordan and then they have to cross the border by car. They can't fly into that country.
And when this happened, you know, I was worried because he had told me, one of them, had told me a story about when he was younger and just like you see the videos of the kids like throwing rocks at tanks, and they did that, you know, when they were younger, and they got shot at and he said that they escaped into tunnels and it was, oh, it's all right, you know, and he was just a kid, so it was it was innocent for him. But I just prayed that they were out and he's he did tell me that they had
that net. And Yahoud opened up the airport for Palestinian Americans for the first time, like I don't know, is that the first time ever? And uh and I said, yes, it's a one way ticket, you know, to get you to get you out. And I'm and thank thankfully you're here. But uh, you know, I won't share like his sentiments about all this. But yeah, but you were, you know, you worry you were. I worry about you. We're human beings. And uh again, you know, I'm a I'm a Christian. I want peace on earth
and good will towards men. But of course the people that run this, like Wandering Wolf said, are performative and they are not interested in that, and uh, they want destabilization and instability as long as it suits their purposes until they don't. We don't don't see you know, we have white papers and books where we read these things, and we read about the Grand chest Ward and these things pop up, and but we don't know. I just I just hope this isn't, you know, the big one. Yeah,
I hope this is in the big w W three. I don't think it is, but you know, I certainly hope not. And uh just pray that we have peace peace on earth. Yeah, yeah, man, definitely. I mean based as a Christian from from one identifying to another, do you think that like, okay, if if things pop off and then now we have a bunch of angry like actual like we have some sort of Holy
Jahad where they're there. I don't know if I buy into this or not, but the idea that we're sold or fed is that they're going to we have to slaughter the Jews on the Christians. Do you think that if if they were given the chance to slaughter the Jews as it were, they're going to come after us Christians next? And and does that mean that in order to prevent that, we probably should just nuke that place? Do you feel that way? Or? I mean, come on, am I am?
I a Glenn back Am radio pro nuke turned the desert into glass LINUS. Now, I think, well why not? How dare you? I think I think that you know, I want, you know, I want Christians to be in charge of the Christian holy sites, you know. Uh. And I don't know. The rest is complex, uh, you know, as far as that place. But I think that A we always get ourselves into an offensive war of defense right in these in far off places. I think that coming here is a different story. I think coming here we fight.
You know, it's a I'll say, coming here it's a defensive war. But but then again, you don't know what I'm talking about. Like in the street here individualized. You know, we we have to defend our faith, our our family, and our friends and our property in the future. H And I guess that's all I can say about that. But no, I don't think that we should send the big plutonium you know, d e w rod from God over there, you know, and turned the place
into glass. No, I don't think we should do that. So you're not cheering for World War three? Is actually to fulfill the end of world prophecy? Negative. I think that that's that's uh, that's that's that's hubris in extremists, right, we know, neither the time nor place, right, So yeah, some of these people think that they can create it. This is what's really disturbed. That's that's that's if anything, that's like some
sort of gnostic Krallian pyramid, you know, Illuminati thing. Right now, the end of the world is uh, you know, is in God's providence. That's for him to know. So yeah, so who would we lose
what just happened wandering wolf. Hopefully he'll be right back. But yeah, this like we've actually seen people saying shit like that, like we need to do that, and you know, have the third you know, the construction of the Third Palace or whatever the hell you know, and start ushering in, you know, the the resurrection or I don't even know what the hell kind of crazy shit they're they're asking for, but they're they're talking about basically
like bringing about the Second Coming, and it's just it seems psychopathic to me, And like, I don't know, I'm building the Third Temple, that's what you're talking Thanks, I'm tripping over my words. I've been on mic too much today. Yes, rebuilding the Third Temple. I heard someone, I've heard multiple people talking about that, Like this is like they think they have some sort of push in like the biblical fricking timeline, and it's just
like, what is wrong with you people? Yeah, that sounds that's satanic. That sounds satanic, right, And I think that I don't know, man, you know, I I know people that if there are two sides in this conflict, that's there are you know, not in terms of the top, but there are two sides. And I know I have a good friend on one side, and I know a good family on the other side, if if that's what we want to call it, and you know, and I pray for them both, and I just man, all these fucking
people in charge, you know, doing this shit non state. It just doesn't stop, you know. But I don't I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do or say about it. It's one thing I'm amazed at is again is the language and the posturing of people just like that echo the sentiments and even in day in like daily life, and I'm like, this is the thing that occurs every like ten years, every twenty
It's like, they don't remember Ariel Sharon doing this. They don't remember the the Iraq, they don't remember the desert storm, they don't remember the war that the forever war that just ended, you know temporarily that we had for twenty years. People just don't remember anything. Yeah, And in fact hgu
Wells talks about that at the end of War of the World. He says one of the things that occurs because he looks back at it in the hindsight after the alien retreat in the book, right where they have the red the red weed, the red death that sort of creeps and then ends up being like it folds back on itself. It ends up being a symbol of the tentacles strangling them it's their it's sort of their death. But he says that a few years go by and he's and he's like, he's looking at it,
and nobody remembers. It's everyone that's in such shock. I think that, you know, it sort of breaks the psyche of the average person. It's like the Tommy Lee Jones meme that's going around, right. Was it worth it? Yeah? It was worth it if you're strong enough, right, you gotta be. You gotta be strong enough and see through this stuff
and just not get too crazy about things. I mean, honestly, just for my own part, you know, I state, I'm already off Twitter anyway, so I when I saw this whole thing popping off, and that's up to people, of course, you know, to do, but just for my own sake, you know, me personally, I just stayed away from it and I just get I get my news through you guys and through a couple other people, and through you know, some basic things. But I don't want to see I don't want to have to be barraged with the
propaganda again. You know, it's the the nine to eleven references and the greatest ally references, and that people were very quick by the way, to go right back into two thousand and one, you know, anti you know, you know, the anti Muslim thing. I mean, just right right, dude, I've been tripping off. I mean they went, they went full one hundred percent right back to two thousand and one. Yeah, I think that's I think it's wild. I just think it's it's absurd. It's
it's so absurd, I don't know, you know. And they can't live in my life, man, and they can't see it. I soonious say. I've been attecked so many times on twitters the last few days, so I guess and and and people just are so Americans are just so I hate to say that, but they are so stupid when it comes to the Middle
East. You have no idea what the fuck is going on? And and and and it's it's insane and and so it's as a matter of fact, I actually one of my my really very good friends and Israeli that that moved here to us, and I called them right after, you know, those things that happened, to check on his family and make sure that everybody's okay. And and you know, it's it's interesting because the first thing he said like, oh, I'm so glad that I moved here and my kid is
here, So that's what away of the ship. So a lot of us that actually leave the Middle East and come here to us is actually because we want to run away from the ship that we lived there, right yeah, But people here just love to just light fire on this ship, right and and and and actually create division, whereas actually a lot of people that come here they don't have that division really. So it's we need to stop that madness and hatred, and we have to stop being pushed by negative from Neocon's
paid people, from politician. There's a lot of people on the pay h you know, taking paid checks to really push that narative right now and against Muslims, and you just can't stop that. I agree, but I think that, you know, the geopolitical spectrum is obviously important, and the thing, it's amazing how we live in a world now, how everything everywhere affects
everyone individually in every town. You know, it's no longer like you read the newspaper and the war is happening on the other side of the world. Everything affects us in the here and now. And I just for me, it's you know, I think that the wars keep going on and everything happens, and I'm just constantly concerned more about what happens right here, like in
my city, in my town. I mean, there are people I know another there's another young person I know who got killed just the other day, got shot another one just the other day, and I worry about are they you know, schools shutting down, people shutting down. Gas prices, food is too high, people don't have anything to eat, and you know, I don't want them to shut the churches down again. And I know that that may sound naive, right, or it may sound small minded, but
I think that that's we lose sight of those things. You know that we just went through where we just went through something three years ago that was that was global and was a war on the self, and now we're going into a physical, hot war. So it's important not to lose sight of those
things that just continue. But under the surface, yeah, dude, they violated our country's first Amendment, right, they're doing their best to take away our Second Amendment, right, working on violating that in every state they possibly can. Everything has been violated. Everything, it's been violated. A single thing that is important to people in every way has been violated. And again, for me, the first thing was that the church is shut down, you know, I mean that to me, that's a symbol of Yeah,
that's your freedom, and you can't you can't go pray. You got to hide your face when you go to the church. I mean, it's hard. I'm never gonna forget. I'm never gonna forget that. Yeah, no, it's it's part of your fucking first fucking Amendment. That's why they call it the first one. And we've already lost freedom of the press. That is fucking gone. It's owned by big corporations and intelligence agencies. Now they've they did the Smith Mont Act repeal or reworking, I forget the stupid name
they put on it, revision, I don't know. And now it's completely legal for them to do propaganda on us. And I've been just going back and rereading about propaganda this week, and propaganda is such a deep topic, you know, and it's it's key in what we've done here in the boiler
Room in the last nine years. And it's used not just to demoralize your enemies, but it's also used to uplift others, you know, your your allies, and let's just stop for a fucking second here and remember who the US government, the federal government's agencies, have called their enemies over the last few years. They weren't. They weren't talking about Black Lives Matter, as they stole money from everybody and essentially laid the philosophical groundwork for a race war.
They weren't talking you know what I mean, Like, that's not the enemies this propaganda is pointed at. They weren't talking about the enemies that have come here and poisoned over one hundred thousand people with fentanyl. They weren't talking about the enemies that, as Bees is pointing out, egregiously shat on all of our freedoms and liberties. No, they were talking about conservatives. They
were talking about Trump people. Remember the same people you're taking your intelligence and your news from right now are the same ones that gave you all those egregious violations of your rights. And now you want to like let them fucking pied piper us off into acceptance into what could potentially turn into something nasty, something that might appear you're biblical when it's not, when it's completely fucking engineered by these psychopaths. I mean, yeah, these people are not going to save
anybody. And and you know, did you guys see did you guys see the interview between Brian kill Me, the Fox, and the guy who was the head of the thing that got McCarthy out as speaker. It's one of the It's yeah, it's it's one of the it's one of the most It wasn't Matt Cat's it was. It was like a Tennessee or a Texas guy. Oh, very very funny because Brian kill Me says, so tell me one question, why do you hate America? Right? And then the guy's
like, listen, you know, I just I just I don't. I just thought he was a bad leader, and I just wanted to get him out of there. And he's like, yes, but don't you aren't you supposed to work for Congress And he's like, no, actually I'm not. I'm supposed to work for my district. And they didn't. They overwhelmingly thought, you know, McCarthy was a bad leader. We wanted to get out. And he's like, yes, but why did you veto the money being
sent to Ukraine? Is that because you hate America? I mean, it's it's unbelievable, you know, it's it's unbelievable. And then I listened to McCarthy's speech and he said he said something like he said, there are oh, we got to close the borders because there are ninety two people from one hundred and thirty two countries. I thought, what, that doesn't even make sense who have come over? We know ninety nine percent of them are terrorists.
And also I think it's important that we, you know, bomb the cartels, and you're like, you know, just anything about bombing and destruction elsewhere, right, as long as it's the alien, as long as the other and then break it over here. It's just it's absurd, I guess. Yeah, real quick observation about something too that I'm not voiced yet, but I Ke keeps bugging me in like because this is kind of weird.
Like you guys, remember it wasn't that long ago when like something would happen anything like usually a kind of minor event, and then these terrorist groups would come out and say that was us, Yo, we did that. That would yo plaving responsibility, right, yeah, dude, how come Hamas has not come out and be like, yeah, you bet your ass. We'd beheaded forty children and there's more of that coming. No, they said, yo, hello, we didn't do that. They also denied the thing with
the alleged rave killings too. That's kind of an odd move for a terrorist group if they're supposed to invoke fear and terror. I would own up for that if I was a terrorist, but they're denying it. It's very strange, and no one's really pointing that out. Just thought I bring it up. And they moved the rave too, the hippie spiritual Oh, they put that. They put that at the last minute. They moved that into a
very inconvenient place. If if you're not in a fan of getting shot in the middle of a giant fight between two militant groups, right, why would you take something like that and forty eight hours before it move it to a place like right near near the drip. It's insane, Like, how are
we? Here's the thing, everybody, This is sort of like the Big Bang theory, right, Like you can do all the math in the world, have it make sense, but you still have to have that faith in that moment of the unlikely spark, right Like, you cannot do Big Bang without having faith in the spark for no reason or for untold reason, we
cannot have faith that this conflict is in any sort of appropriate framing. If there was not an intelligence failure for you to want to pick a side in this and take it to whatever you know level you think is appropriate, just you know, all of us individually, in our minds and in our worldviews, all you could come up with to say, if you have any fucking soul in my opinion is stop this right now, everybody, fucking stop right
now. We were not told the truth about how this started. And even if that truth is that it is not an intelligence failure and that people knew about this ahead of time and it was allowed to happen, pump the fucking brakes, right, Like we went to World War Two without having this conversation because we didn't have internet. We didn't know that FDR was warned. Right, But now we're watching this in real time, and we know the patterns,
we know about how these things work. We've read the we've read the documents, we've read the books. We've read the documents books. I've got them right here, stacks and stacks of documents printed out under my desk. But it's like not mad at the crew, all right, I'm not mad at you guys, But it's like we didn't have that before World War Two. Look what world War two turned into. We didn't have the same kind of internet and fast moving, high speed information on the after nine to eleven,
in the lead into Iraq, in the lead into Afghanistan. You know what I mean, we had to get everything filtered out, like from their backwards. You know, Panama files start coming out, Vault seven starts coming out, Snoweden thing happens, all this other shit happens, a saune happens, Boom, the information is off flowing so fast. And we've just spent the last nine years trying to unfucked and untwist the ways in which we are
allied to by the various levels of establishment that caused these things. Right, and now now we're asking the big question, Hey, can we pump the brakes because this might have been engineered, allowed, false, flagged in one way or another, which, by the way, doesn't mean it's fake if you're a newbie. It's a nuanced thing. It can mean a lot of different things. But if same with nine to eleven, right, I mean, but we're at a point now where we're able to ask this question on
day five, day six of this conflict. Well, it's interesting that we you're right, I mean, we didn't We didn't have this fir wwww one right with the Huns and the Bayonets and Burnet's. And we didn't have this in w W two. We didn't have it in Nam, we didn't have it in Korea. We didn't have it in Grenado, we didn't have it in Panama invasion, right, we didn't have it in Falklands War. We
didn't have it in all these places. And yet in the meantime, first of all, that the asymmetrical guerrilla warfare thrives UH in these instances, right with propaganda and information and methmetic warfare. But we did start to have it on the Big nine, and then we certainly had it before the Big Courunka Kung Flu people, and we had it, and then we watched it in real time and still it was like, Nope, now it's in your face and we're just gonna do it anyway. And by the way, the people
who knew about it are gonna they gotta go mm hmm. Right, And then we saw it with the the January thing, and now we're seeing it with this where we know all the signs and the things. It's just just just you know what, did JFK say that secrecy was anathema to our society? Right? Yeah, well look where I got him. I guess sadly, you know, sadly. But it's just it's we're the toddlers, right, and we've got to be babied by the people who control the the story
because we can't handle it apparently. Yeah, oh shit, hash sure, look at your clock, Oh, twelve oh five. It's it's it's it's happening, folks. It happened here in Central Texas. It is now Friday the thirteenth. Spooky. How are you feeling? Yeah? How sure? Do you feel terrorized? I don't, No, I'm good. Yeah, it's only five minutes in. I guess it's too early to tell. I'm one. I'm one hour ahead of you, and I think, well, I guess, yeah, think what about it? What about this? The
last day of the year is one two three one two three. Oh that'sting spooky. I got you guys all they think about that now? Oh crap, that's true. It is it is one three one three. Uh, well, yeah, go ahead, wonderwolf. I was, I was just gonna say, and and I'm I'm two hours behind you guys, So so maybe i'll I'll check in in two hours and see if anyone is still on
the other end to answer my question. But so, you know, the thing that I wanted to kind of say about all this too is, you know, this war is well, war in general is being marketed to us right. It's being packaged and sold and positioned and optioned. People in every ideological tribe are buying memetic shares in this new Israeli war as if it's the
latest corporate fad. And and I don't know the degree to which we've we've really seen the propaganda this scale before, you know it's It's often been remarked that von Klaschwitz says that war was the continuation of politics by other means. And it reminds me when I look at this and I step back and look at all all of what's transpired over the past couple of days, reminds me
of something that I love him or hate him. Jean belgria I had said in nineteen sixty six, when he was talking about the deterrance strategy, you know, in the context of the Cold War, and he talked about war
as the archaic violence of expanding systems. And he was remarking on the media and saying that no one talks about deterrence and that increasingly there will be a point where there's no discussion of an adversary or a strategy, and it kind of coalesces into a planetary structure for the annihilation of stakes, the stakes themselves. And I find that very interesting in the context of what's going on right
now. And the quote is everywhere were irreversible apparatuses of control or elaborated everywhere with the notion of security becomes omnipotent everywhere where the normal places the old arsenal of laws and violence, including war, and it's the system of deterrence that grows and around it grows the historical social and political desert. Right. So, yeah, we are in the desert of the real We are really attached to the mimetic understanding of what's going on in far flowing parts of the world.
But what's being annihilated and destroyed here really is the stakes, or what's being illuminated here is the stakes, which is what I think that we're all talking about here. We're the only ones who seem to be saying, hey, pause for a minute, understand what's actually happening, what we're being told versus what is truly happening on the ground, and understanding the stakes and implications of the decisions that are made. We're not buying. We're not buying the
mimetic shares in this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, I'm not buying. No way, man, this is there. You go, Rocus, this is pretty insane. Here to check this out, let's read you this one paragraph out of this document I pulled up earlier today. I can't cite it right now because I cut and pasted it. But talking about war propaganda, so as you contrast the tremendous volume and intensity of war propaganda today, and keep in mind, this is kind of like referring,
well, I'll just continue on never mind. As you contrast the tremendous volume and intensity of war propaganda today with the situation in wars of other eras, you can't escape the conclusion that what's going on is now a modern phenomenon, propaganda of some sort. Had it's been it is true been used in warfare for centuries, but all the social, economic, industrial, and military factors that make propaganda a large scale part of war in nineteen forty four first made
themselves seriously felt in World War One. In that war, propaganda for the first time became all important and a formal branch of government. It is in modern times that we have become familiar with such governmental institutions as the British Ministry of Information, the German Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment, the American Committee on Public Information in World War One, the Office of War Information in World
War Two, and their counterparts in many other countries. It should not be forgotten that the astonishing forward strides in communications in the twentieth century have had a lot to do with the development of propaganda, especially radio broadcasting. See this is a little bit older of an article. As I was getting at. Not only is propaganda vital to the conduct of modern war, it is also possible to reach many millions of people regularly day and night, who only twenty
five years ago might have been almost beyond the reach of propaganda. Not only the words, but the actual voices of the leaders of the nations at war are familiar to millions of people over the world, carried by the magic of
radio. Now take that mindset and slide it to the right to where we are on the timeline, where we literally have artificial intelligence offices of propaganda inside and outside of government, corporate entities doing it, NGOs doing it, intelligence agencies doing it in collusion with a technocratic machine that has cybernetic feedback loops attached to it, algorithms, image creation, all this stuff. And then imagine that all being held by a set of a conglomeration, a cabal that wants
to do global governance. And then bring it back to the United States where they've weaponized all these factors against their own people. And now I want to use that same trick to get us into larger conflicts. Well, they've already named us, many of us in the United States as enemy combatants simply for their political stance. I think that's pretty profound right there. You know, these new agencies we have would make the German Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment
fucking blush. That's right. Yeah, I just had to get up and get this book. I don't want to show the cover of it because it's got spicy symbols on it. But I'll show you the spine, which is this book right here on Gebels. This is a recent book. I read this in twenty sixteen. Peter Longrich published in twenty ten, and it's a biography of Gebels. And then if you read that and Gebels his own book. I mean this is that in reading Burne's, Brenees's propaganda is like the
key, that's like the twin pillars. Plus this biography of understanding propaganda in any sort of a you know, a coach of context, I guess for now because the same principles still hold. You know, brene said that the thing about propaganda is how the the elites run the invisible war over the masses and control them. And it's still mean, it still holds great examples of not great, but important or significant examples of propaganda in terms of warfare.
I mean, we've all lived through this, right, we live through the War on the Self, the War on tur and the Cold War. But just you know, when I lived in Northern when I went I went to school in Northern Ireland, and so I was I lived in Belfast, and this was just post good Friday Agreement, and so you know, I guess, just as an American seeing this over a couple of years, I saw kind of a I think, a unique perspective on this sort of thing.
And it really is incredible. I mean because at the time also there were clearly, you know, there was there was solid like if you went into a loyalist neighborhood there would be Israeli flags, if you went into a Republican you know, or a nationalist neighborhood there would be Palestinian flags. This was in late nineties, early two thousands, and it really is amazing. It's amazing the way that you know that at the time, especially the Internet was
in its sort of beginnings not really that effective. But the way that television and state media and then newspapers and magazines work is one thing, but word
of mouth is so is so influences people on a deeper level. And so I think that once these things start to reach the point where the average person is speaking about this and has like you know, spicy opinions where they're willing to they're willing to argue with you in a visceral sense, like in a Walgreens, then it's like it's it's getting to a it's getting to a point, you know, where it's like everybody just needs to chill the fuck out,
man, you know. Yeah, And I'm not I'm not trying to be glib or anything, you know and say like this aggression will not stand man, But seriously, everybody, I mean, I know it doesn't do any good to say, you know, everybody chill out, But I'm glad that we are. Yeah, you know that we have a sort of objective, just passionate opinion about this. And aren't you know, can see it for what it is. I suppose. Yeah, people just freaking out this
week, man, you know, and I get it. I get it, but it just takes me back to incubator babies, takes me back to WMDs, takes me back to it's very seductive, that the fear is seductive. It's it's almost sexually potent. And how seductive it is, and how how people really get swallowed up in this stuff. And it's I think once people get to that point, it's very very hard to chill and take a
step back. But that is possible, you know, and we're pre programmed right now, we you know, as a larger population here are pre programmed. We were pre programmed to reopen the lid on the Arab hatred. You know, everybody had that kind of oh we gotta we put that one down for a good twelve years or so, didn't we. Like as soon as the drama Hamed thing happened here, that was kind of the last uh,
you know, fear the Muslims sort of thing. And then like Obama years carried on and it was all of a sudden it was the religion of peace was the Charlie and the bataclon Yep, heb doo bataclono. Yep, definitely exactly. You know, they had the beheadings on the beaches and the right the bridge and you know, wandering Wolf, I think you were talking about the guy, you know, making rhymes. I mean remember the Beatle, Remember the the the g hottest Beatle. Wasn't that guy executed? No,
he was killed in Spain in a prison, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, But you know, this stuff is all tied into one another, into itself, and again it's just very seductive for people. So yeah, same with the fear and outrage responses, right, I mean, but it's pre programmed for that, after COVID and all the trump Ism of axism in all those years, and aren't they going hard after Facebook and Twitter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's calls to have them do censorship now, Like people
are literally asking, that's impossible. It's not going to happen on Twitter or x because Elon Musk is a free speech app right, I mean, it can't happen or anybody. No, we certainly won't see that, will we. We shall see. Have you guys been reading dugans out Alexander Dugan's tweets? I saw a kerfuffle today over one of his tweets somewhere in my doom scrolling for the day. Yeah, he's doom scroller three twenty two. Yeah. I mean again, I don't have Twitter. This is something somebody sent
me. But and I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm a Duganist, folks, I'm saying it's important to read what people say. But you know, he did have a one of the clearest takes on the thing, at least from a Russian perspective on in terms of the West and the divisions within the West and some of the deeper causes of this stuff and decadence, degenerousy and lack of belief in things, and this sort of East versus West push at the beginning. I haven't read his tweets since, but he had a couple
of good ones a few days ago. Are interesting ones to read. I shall say, Oh yeah, don't call them good. Oh you might. You just that's not what I meant. That's not what I meant, folks. I just had it. I had it on the desk in a snack of documents. Right. Trump says the same thing that he said about the Russia thing too, about this. Did you hear that? So this would have never happened. Days is going to have to do it. This would have never happened if I was still president. Listen, folks, this would
never have happened. It would never have happened. I walked in, I said, they're at war. I looked, I saw that we were at war, and I said, you know, I told you this. By the way, we've got a Senator Ronda Sanctus. He wants to bomb Mexico. Now there'd be but no bombing of Mexico people. You know, remember his speech about he said, and that is it true, mister president, that you called the leader of the of what was it al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Yes, he called me your magnificence. That's what he called me. I don't know if he calls anybody else that, but he called me your magnificence. We were and I sent him a picture of my of his house. I said, look that's your house. There's your little piazza, your little garden. We've got a hell fire missile going down on it right now if you don't change your mind. He said, yes, you're magnificence. That's you know, people call me magnificent. And he said Hesblow is very
smart. And he got in trouble for that one. Oh yeah I did. And he's like, look, I called him very smart. I didn't say that I like him or something. These people are very smart. I'm not saying that they're smart. A lot of people want to call him smart asses. That's what they say. I call him smart people. Oh my god. All right, let me float this one by you, guys. I had this great conversation with Mike Ryan last night and he brought this up
to me, and I've just been thinking about it ever since. It's just like, okay, follow me on this so they're saying, the media and analysts and people are saying that there are American weapons being used by Hamas against Israel. Right, has everybody seen that? Everybody's seen you raise your hand?
Have you seen this? Talking point? Larry Johnson, former CIA analysts, was talking big about this too, suggesting that a lot of the weapons that were sent to Ukraine have somehow managed to accidentally oops, land over there, oops, which is completely It's very plausible, right, because it was just a few months back that Pentagon came out and said, we don't know where seventy percent of those things go once they're out the door and land over
there in Ukraine. Well, look, a tank that we sent to Ukraine ended up at a gas station in Louisiana. I don't think so remember that guy. Yeah, look I got it from somebody. I'm not gonna say it. So, yeah, we got a F thirty five we found on eBay too, but we'll save that. So if this is true, and it seems plausible because you know, they're saying, hey, we don't know
where seventy percent of this stuff goes. It disappears into a black hole, I believe was the quote when asking about Hey, could we do an audit. Maybe, Like we spend a lot of money, a lot of tax dollars, a lot of our a lot of our stuff. Guys, Uh, do our own soldiers need these things? So all right, let's just
game theory this out. Our government takes billions of dollars of our tax dollars, right, prints it whatever, I don't know, craps it out of one of their little machines, or you know, just tap some zeros on a keyboard. Whatever. Oh, maybe send some in crypto. All right, we could use this FTX thing. Maybe they'll kick a some back on the side. Okay, I won't go too too far down this, but
let's just say, okay, this happened. Spend all these billions of dollars, and we sent over artillery, some newtered tanks, a lot of guns, a lot of guns, right, some M four's, maybe some of those ak's they got laying around a lot of ammo, right, Probably not enough for anyone to save themselves with, but enough to say, hey, we tried. We gave him, you know, four bullets in that gun
that no one trained him to use. Anyways, So all this stuff right goes to Ukraine and then cash too, because Olena has to go do jewelry shopping in Perie and get people fired when they don't treat her like the royalty that she is. Of course. Anyways, back to the weapons. The weapons go from the United States and maybe a couple other countries right to Ukraine to kill Russians. Okay, we're this is follow the bouncing ball. This
gets really dissonant in a moment here. Trust me, this gets really fucking dissonant in a moment here because seventy percent of them disappear. They're being sold online that we're seeing. Some of them end up in the hands of Russians, some of them in Sudan, some of them in Turkey by some reports. Right, so our stuff is, you know, not all landing in the hands of the Ukrainians that are fighting for democracy up there where they've already
shut down churches and journalists and political parties. So that's their democracy, I guess, I don't know, but that's why we had to send all those weapons over there. Right, So the weapons they go to those guys, except for seventy percent of them disappear, we don't know, and all of a sudden this pops off and we're told that Hamas has some of these weapons. So wait a minute, let me just make sure I have the circle correct. Here, US sends weapons to corrupt Ukraine, which has Nazi factions
floating around in this little militia cloud. You know, Nazi factions in this little militia cloud. I don't know. That's kind of weird, right, that we're arming groups like that, But let's just set that aside. Maybe I'm crazy. Anyways, said weapons go there ostensibly to kill Russians, but
they get rerouted to Hamas and are used to kill Jewish people. And now our government is telling us we need to send more money and more weapons and more intelligence to Israel so they can defend themselves from the weapons we gave to Ukraine which ended up in Hamas's hands. Are you starting to see the like
recycle icon here? Let me stop you right there. Not once ever in in living memory history, as long as the military industrial complex and wars have existed, Never once have we ever seen an instance where there is an industry supplying arms and ammunition to both sides to profit from it. Not once you're crazy, your tinfoil hat bro is showing I just wanted to underline that, because I think that shows a piece of dissonance that we should all think about
for a second. It reminds me. It reminds me of arms and cocaine moving from the United States to Iran to Nicaragua in a big triangle, or how Europe was angry about heroin flooding in, you know, across the Caucasus
and through the Russian borders. And then and then we funded various groups in Iraq right to fight Iran, and then we invaded Afghanistan where all the opium comes from, and then we go part of the poppy fields, and then that somehow made its way back to here where we have an opiate opioid crisis, which then drugs then we have and we have a war on drugs, and then we send soldiers and marines there to take care of that and to guard it, but also kill the people that are guarding it or something.
And then they get their legs blown off and then they're prescribed opiates, and then we cut them off, and then we give them synthetic opiates from all over the I mean, yes, sounds weird, weird stuff, These concentric circles I do not like. I don't like it. I feel like we're
having the wool pulled over our eyes a little bit here. Do you remember that scene in that movie Munich. There's a scene, you know, after the the Olympic attack and they send the Massiah commandos out to like the safe house and they walk into the safe house and they're like, what are you guys? And they're like like, are you guys? Are you a r eh? And they're like no, And then the other guys are like,
no, we're South African. And then the other guys are like Columbia and the other guys are fark and then they're like, oh no, we're PLO And they're like, oh, we here the guys we're looking for. But we're all in the same safe house together, by the way, big community. Oh man, what a weird, weird place to find ourselves. Oh it disappeared into a black hole or a black budget. Yeah, oh, rugus, did we lose you there? I saw you looking like you were
going to talk and then it didn't happen. I gotta do a security check real quick, all right, opsec in effect, let us know when it's all good. Maybe that's the Friday the thirteenth, effect outside the Rugets studio and I hit my microphone. Sorry guys, Yeah, man, no problem, you got it fixed super quick. Wandering wolf, I mean, what do you think about that, dude? Just like, can you believe that the arms trafficking circle that we're looking at here, if this is really the
way this is working. And let's also not forget the six billion dollars worth of gear that was left in Afghanistan. And I can't help but think that this turn of events, if it was expected or planned or you know, coerced or anything in any anything other than what the mainstream narrative is the pull out of Afghanistan could make a little bit more sense now why they pulled out so fast? Yeah, it makes a tremendous amount of sense. I remember
saying even back then. I was having conversations with friends of mine who are Green Berets, and they were saying as much at the time too. And so you just watch, wait and see where these arms end up. Something is gonna eventually take place in the world, and American weapons will be involved.
And yeah, I'm not surprised at any of this. I've been saying it for a long time in my circles I just think it's uh, it's just interesting playing Carmen san Diego with uh, with weapons of war and trying to guess exactly where these things are going to turn up, and how many different cities they've been to and countries they've been to. Yeah, none of
this is surprising at all. I think that I'm just glad to see more and more people talking about this and this information being more readily available because it I I've really wants it to snap some people out of their stupor. But no, none of this is surprising. They know where the weapons are. I mean, the the Sas used to do this thing in the eighties in Northern Ireland called jarking where they would find the weapons cachets and they would essentially
track. They would put a track on them, so they knew when the weapons were being moved, how many weapons were there. They'd have surveillance on where the people were going back and forth. These are like farmhouses informata, you know, and and real rural shit, right, But it was on a massive scale and that's how they were able to I mean, I'm sure you know they couldn't track everything, right because they still had to have the
decommissioning and all that stuff. But that was in the eighties, so I'm sure now the process is just advanced. They know where things are, where they're moving. I guess it's just who wants to control what and what's the destabilization process until it leads to an actionable event. Yeah, and if any
if it was premeditated, they need plausible deniability. So there has to be some sort of crisis or mismanaged pull out, something to predicate these weapons going missing in the first place, and had to look like incompetence not malfeasance. Right, So like you're like, you're you're nineteen hijackers with box cutters basically, yeah. Or the weapons running program in Mexico, remember that. Yeah, fast and furious rest, Yes, got a border patrol agent killed,
multiple other people killed. Yeah. What Wandering Wolf just said describes Joe Biden's presidency perfectly. Oh man, well, you guys, I don't know. We're two hours and forty minutes into this, and I think, uh, we could clearly do this for a long time. But let's let's let's round it out. Let's round it out and call it a night. Uh. Based it was great having you on Brian McClain's show with Me today at Today's News Talk. People can find that in the podcast area up there under episodes
at TNT Radio dot Live. That was fun conversation man, And of course you got a really cool stream coming up, right, So yes, the thing, big time stream coming up, and that's gonna be tomorrow night if it's a busy time of year for everybody, so hopefully you know, I plan it for Tomorrow night. But it's on out of Body. It's on out of body desolate, not darkness. And that's on my spooky season Darkfall series for October. I've done three three of those so far, really four,
but three of those so far. I did Final Girl Night Creatures, I did the Dark half by Stephen King, and this one is on sort of d I D Demons out of Body Experiences and this is the Night's Configuration by William Peter Bladdie. Great book. It's also a movie Phoenix Program, Vietnam Stuff and Exorcists three and Exorcist three. It's gonna be a lot of
fun to cover tomorrow night because don't forget people. Patrick Ewing m v P NBA All Star is in Exorcist three as the Angel of Death playing with tarot cards and Fabio is in the movie. Yes, And another thing I'd forgotten is that the Gemini Killer makes his first makes his first predatory action in Richmond in the film, and so that's interesting. I've done it stream on Gemini
Twins and so that's gonna be a fun one to do. Saturday night, I'll be doing Natural Born Killers with made by Jim Bob, so that'll be a full, you know, long analysis on that, and then h G. Wells, I'll have that coming up. We're doing War of the Worlds and The Island of Doctor Rowe Moreau Human animal pig comeras folks. I've never seen a splice between an animal and a Reesius monkey, a human being and an amphibian spider gouts, all right, So that's gonna be an interesting one.
Last thing I'll say is I did see a funny meme about Biden this week. It said, Joe Biden a points weird bug in charge of the night time. Did you see that something? A bug? It's playing slayer. I thought you were enjoy the uh, just a little diversion from all the darkness happening now. But listen, you know, I hope everybody.
I hope we live through the next day. A lot of events coming up where I live, a lot of fun, you know, wholesome things, some white pills coming out, and I hope everybody has a good one, has a good rest of their spooky season. And you know, you've got to be strong enough, right, If you're strong enough, it'll be worright. So thanks you all for having me. I appreciate you. And Wandering
Wolf Ruckus hasher love y'all and I'll see y'all. Say all right, man, all right there he goes Baselet analyzer on YouTube, get on over there and follow him. Let's see here, Wandering Wolf over to you, save rounds, final thoughts, anything you wanted through out there. And you're gonna be on the Brian McLean Show at Today's News Talk tomorrow, right, I think I got you on my calendar last I checked. I will be on your show tomorrow, looking forward to it. I've got that that two forty
slot at least in my time zone. I'm going to talk a little bit about a project I've been working on for the last year. But as far as tonight's conversation goes, you know, it's been I'd been looking forward to just chatting with all you guys about the happenings of the past couple of days,
you know, just just making sense of it. I mean, most people I'm around are so enmeshed in what's going on psychologically and emotionally that they're too close to it and they're not really in a place to evaluate it. And I've been staying silent intentionally, and that's because A it's my nature. B. I knew I was going to be in here in the boiling room
making sense of it all with you guys. So I just really want to say just how much gratitude I have to have the whole gang at acr NT and T, including all the listeners, to just make sense of this desert of surreality that we're all in. I mean, it does seem more and more that the tempo of crisis is picking up, and it's just good to know that there's other people on the planet that I can always pick up the phone, ring them up and say, hey, let's talk about this and
let's ground each other in the moment. It's good to have that. So yeah, that's that's all. Apart from that, whatever tomorrow brings I hope everyone out there just stay safe, stay safe, take care of yourselves, and hopefully we'll see you all next week. Thanks again, Yeah, all
right, thanks man, looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow. We will see Wondering Wolf tomorrow on TNT with me and uh yeah, join us over there of course, and if you miss those you can pick them up in the episodes over there at the website for Today's News Talk Ruckus, I stand with Rugus. We're gonna call it a show. Anything else you want to throw out there before we close it down? My friend, you stand with Rugus. That's funny. I stand with Rugus too well. You know,
if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. Right. Don't don't stand for something just because the news, or the politicians, or the celebrities or your political persuasion is telling you to stand for that. Always use your critical thinking, Always read everything, listen to everybody. Don't believe anything unless you can prove it with your own research, Thus said Bill Cooper. I ain't got nothing else. I was looking for some good news to end
it on. The Only thing I could find, if it counts, was I guess. Greta Thunberg is facing a fine for you know, she's been double jeoparded. I guess she got fined again for the same thing she did back on July twenty fourth, which was my birthday by the way. But yeah, she disobeyed a police order, so she had to pay some money back then, and I guess as of today or yesterday, they decided to find her again a four hundred and fourteen dollars. So poor Greta. Anyways,
how dare you? But yeah, so I hope everybody stays safe, and I hope cooler heads prevail ultimately. But since we're talking about geopower politics, it's probably not going to happen. So it's on each of us as individuals to stay safe. So I hope that happens. Thanks for having me here. Make God bless you and every one of you, and make God save this republic and the whole world. Yes, all right, thanks ruckus.
All Right, that's it, everybody, we're out of here. Thanks for hanging with us for the two hours and forty five minutes so far. Working on a three hour episode here always one of those nights where we kind of start a little bit late and I'm just like, I'll just try to keep it brief, and you know, we'll have a short conversation and try to keep it concise, but it's too much fun. And I gotta agree
with what Wandering Wolf said. I think it's important for all of us as a group of colleagues and friends just to keep each other sane in these times. And really appreciate you joining us in that journey. You know, we put ourselves out there and have these conversations in public in hopes that it benefits you as well. And we sure appreciate you viewing and listening to the boiler
Room. And we'll see you again next week no matter what. All right, we're not taking any disruptions, We're not taking any wars on, not taking any terror cells, waking up, fuck all that shit. Everybody, have a great weekend, enjoy your Friday. Come listen to us at tnt RUCKUS will be on and off all day on the daytime shows here in the United States. I'll be on from what is It? I always try trying to shift my brain to the Eastern time because it's easier for everybody to do
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