Christian Zlonism & Dispensationalism REFUTED -Jay Dyer

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Zionism and dispensationalism. And we're going to start with the scriptures. Obviously not difficult to refute. This is a retorto heresy. It is preposterous. It is going to be easy to refute. How do we do that? Well, let's start with the covenants. Every one of the covenants is linked in a single person, and I think you're going to notice who that is.

We're going to see as we work through each one of these discussions and topics, how this all culminates in a specific person and his actions, and this will be the ultimate refutation of dispensational heresies. Are you all ready

for this? Now? The first covenant is in the Garden of Eden, and God established in a relationship with man and gave certain criteria and certain stipulations, and those sipulations dependent upon Adam's obedience and what he would do as to whether or not he would experience covenant blessings or covenant cursings. Now, there's a pattern to these kinds of covenants throughout the Old Testament, and a lot has been

written on this. So I'm not going to rehearse a whole lot of that because it's not super necessary for our purposes. Today. We're going to talk about these patterns. And the first is that it's pattern kind of on along the lines of a Souzarain treaty of the ancient and Middle East, the ancient Near Eastern world, the suzerain is the he's the king who makes a deal with the vassal. In the Bible, these covenants are very similar to the covenant agreements that exist in the cultures around

Israel in the Near East as well. So the king or the Lord basic promises, sometimes upon himself, sometimes upon other things. The scriptures, there's actually a bunch of different versions. There's a hand covenant, assault covenant, animal covenants, et cetera. And in this case God is going to in some of these cases do different things to symbolize and show

forth different patterns and different ideas. So in Genesis, God makes a covenant with Adam, and it is later stated in the scriptures that it is a covenant relationship with Adam. Even the word covenant is not immediately used in Genesis. Later on the Minor Prophets, it does mention those are some strong z impact right there. It does mention this relationship in a covenant way. It also mentions in Isaiah that mankind, after rebelling, entered into a covenant with Death.

So if you're not in covenant with Adam or acume me with Christ, you are kind of by default in covenant with Adam and with Death, and Death is an angel. So all of these covenants are in some way personal. They relate to the suzerain or the ruler that you are covenanting with. Now we all know Adam and Eve failed to keep that covenant in Genesis with God and

they were booted out. Now not too long after this, however, God begins the patterns of bringing man back to himself right, And the first instance that we have of this restoration is Genesis nine. And as you note, when we walk through these covenants, you'll notice that each one of these covenants has a predictive typological fulfillment in the person of Christ. Obviously, these are all about Christ. And we'll see that where Paul says all the promises of God are yeay and

him promises, that refers to covenant promises. In other words, the deal the relationship that God is establishing with man in all of these covenants. All of the covenants are one. Sometimes New Testament writers like Paul will contrast elements of say the Mosaic Covenant over against the New Covenant in Christ. That does not mean that they are oppositional covenants and that there are different plan bees that God has with

his people. That is the central heresy of the schizophrenic deity of dispensationalism, who keeps trying Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, because it's a chopped up, schizo version of history and there's no unifying factor in the person of Christ. And there's no single people of God or city of God, as sant Agustin wrote about throughout all of history, from Genesis to the end of the world, there's one city of God. That is the people of God, that is

the covenant people of God. And it is only an always is the Church, even in the Old Testament, is the ecclesia, the Church, the called out people of God in covenant with Him. And all of these people believe in the Gospel. When I read this in the New Testament, when I myself was a young goober, retarded evangelical and I believe in dispensationalism, I realized, wait a minute, the Gospel was preached to Abraham, the Gospel was preached in the wilderness. Well, then that means that it's the same

gospel at all times. And even though we have more revelation than they had in Genesis or in the days of the Judges, or whatever, it is still the same fundamental revelation about the person of Christ, and the only difference is that they look forward to the coming of the Messiah and we look back and await his second coming. So God has a covenant with Noah. And as you know, there are certain elements of this covenant that deal with, for example, the natural progression of the seasons. Right, we

get basically a providential covenant of nature. It is the nooeic covenant that follows after the endemic covenant. So this is the beginning of God restoring what was lost as Adam and Eve are banished out of Eden, which was a spiritual metaphysical reality different than what they walked out of when they came onto the earth after the fall.

In the Orthodox view via Romans eight, the fall affects all of the cosmos and everything fundamentally is altered as a result of this, leading to decay, entropy, death, animal death, plant death. All death comes from Adam's sin, and Adam is falling upon the angelic sin because he covenanted with the serpent. Genesis is not talking about a snake talking. The text is talking about an angelic being in the

appearance of an angelic serpentine image. In the rest of the scriptures, when that serpentine image is used, it is talking about a fallen angel. It is not talking about an actual literal snake talking. And so when atheists come to the text and so well, you do, dumb Christians believe in talking sneaks. It's an angelic being. It's just described as serpentine an image. And that's discussed in other passages where we're told that there are angelic beings like serpents.

I think they're called nephesh. No, there's there's a Hebrew word of forgetting the name off the top of my head, but there's a specific Hebrew word for what those beings are. In this Covenant, you'll notice that God has Noah positioned as the head of a new household, a new humanity. This is the church. That's why the Church is pictured as a boat like Noah's arc. That's why this famous icon, I'm a giant version of it at my house, the Ark of Salvation. This is Noah's boat. Noah's boat is

a type of the Church as a boat. And Jesus is the ultimate Noah, just like Jesus is the new Atom and that's how we know, for example, that Adam was also in a covenant is second first Green is fifteen and second These as well talks about Adam's relationship as the head of all humanity, and when Adam Philly brought death upon all of his descendants, and then Christ as the new Atom, brings life upon all of his descendants, which is all of humanity in terms of their nature.

That doesn't mean everybody's a son of God. It just means that all of the nature of man is resurrected through recapitulation. Now, Jesus is then the new Noah in this covenant, and so everything that Noah is doing, everything that you see happening in this Noiic covenant is a type. Be fruitful and multiply. The fear of you will be upon all of the animals, et cetera. Up, and this is where we're first told that men can now eat animals. Right before this, it was normative to eat vegetables because

there was still a close proximity to the fall. This is another reason why people had longer lifespans, is that they're still relatively close temporarily speaking to the Edenic state. But when outside of eden there are new stipulations, one of which is the state. It is the first time that men are told not only can they eat animals if the blood is removed, they can also now exact the death penalty. And the death penalty is part of

the governance of man post fall. So it's actually a good thing that God has established some role of the state here. This is the first institution of a Christian state with the figure of Noah. And you'll notice that at no point all the way up until Romans does this idea of the death penalty, and at some role of the state exacting that the death penalty go away. It is simply a fiction, an invented nonsense reality that pacifists and other people have come up with that this

no longer matters, it doesn't apply. It consistently applies from the time of Noah all the way until Romans thirteen. But I think a lot of people don't even know that Noah was given the right to exact the death penalty. Whoever sheds man's blood, by man's blood, shall he be shed because it is an attack on the image of God. To kill a person is to deface the image of God.

And thus I for not justice requires that that person be put to death, because they are now not just a defacer of the divine image by killing someone, they are now also a murderer. And so it is just to put to death people who are now murderers. It doesn't mean anyone can do this. It's not a I'll do it. It is given to Noah here as the head of this covenant. So Adam and even a covenant.

One grin these fifteen says that Adam was a type of Christ, Eve, as a type of the Church, Eve, as a type of Mary many times over throughout the Bible. As we move up into this, Peter says that they were all baptized in the Paul says they were baptized in the cloud, in the sea. Peter says that what happened with Noah was a type You are now saved by baptism. The baptism is the washing away of the

world of its filth. Here because humanity had defaced and defiled itself by turning to all kinds of wicked practices the time of Noah. And so God saves Noah and says, I will establish my covenant with you and all your descendants after Ultimately, this is Christ. Christ is the true Noah who saves us through the arc of the Church. The New Testament is very clear in that typological imagery. God promises that he will never cut off the earth with a flood, and the rainbow is the sign of

this covenant. It is an everlasting covenant, and it's also for us something that demonstrates providence in nature. The signs and the seasons of the times will always continue until the end of the world, when there is the conflagration, which is the purifying of the universe with the divine energies. Why do we say that there's no created fire of God. God is not a creature. Paul says, Our God is a consuming fire, which means that there's no created purgatory fire.

There is only the uncreated divine energy that you see in Leviticus nine or number twelve, when the cloud and the pillar and so forth are theophanic manifestations. Theophanies are not creatures. They're God in time and space. It's called God in time and space. It is worshiped. It is called the uncreated glory. To call that a creature is to be a stupid, tomistic heretic So the next covenant, as you I'm sure know, is the Abrahma covenant. Abraham was a pagan and his dad was an idol maker Terra.

And then Abraham, here's the voice of God and converts. He converts to the true God. God, of course saves him by grace. Abraham is not saved by his works. But notice that God appears to him. This is a theophany. The Lord said, Abraham, get out of your country to your father's house, to landa that I will show you. I will bless those that bless you, and all curse those that curse you. Verse seven, the Lord appeared to Abraham,

to your seat, I will give this land. And Abraham went and moved there to the mountain east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east. And there he built an altar to the Lord and called upon the name of the Lord. So notice in verse eight, after this theophany, Abraham erects an altar. Noah also sacrificed when he came out of the arc, and there was the dove right. And so Noah offers a sacrifice. Abraham offers a sacrifice. This is

liturgical worship. From the very beginning, God is worshiped with an altar and with liturgy. There is never a time when God does not accept worship through altar and liturgy. This alone refutes Protestant heretics, and it refutes Islam as not in continuity with the Old Testament religion clear as date. Now, that's not all that there is, because the Abrahmic Covenant

is a series of Theophanes restatements, reaffirmations, and promises. But I want you to remember that the original statement is when you get to this land, you're going to be protected and all the families of the earth will be blessed in you. How are all the families of the earth going to be blessed through one God? Is lineage?

that the Bible explains itself. That's not solo scriptura, that's just canonical interpretation. To say that other passages explain other passages is just part of the doctrine of inspiration. Has nothing to do with solar scriptura. That's just how you interpret a holistic, full revelation of Old and New Testament working together. Here, you'll notice in Genesis fifteen in this theophany, it is stated that the one who is the voice, and it's actually worded better in the septuagen because in

verse four it says the logos came to him. So in Genesis fifteen four the logos came to him, the voice came to How does a voice appear? How does a logos appear to you? And in this situation, he's got a childless wife, but he's got another possible seed that he could have through Hagar, and God says, no, it's not going to be through Hagar, is going to be through Sarah. But Sarah's old. How is that possible? It's going to be a miraculous birth a miraculous birth.

Where have we heard this before? This is a type. This is looking forward to. It's foreshadowing the virgin birth, the ultimate miraculous birth. And throughout the Old Testament there are many miraculous birds. Those are anticipatory. They're preparing for the miraculous birth of the Messiah, the one who is the seed that fulfills all of these promises. How will

I know that I will inherit this land? Well, God says, cut up these animals, puts them in a trance, and God moves through like smoking oven and lamps of fire Verse seventeen. God appeared like a burning torch. That's the uncreated fire. God is an all consuming fire. That's a theophanic manifestation. God is not a torch, but he appeared like a torch and a smoking oven. This is the burning presence of God. This is a theophany. And if you read Ezekiel, it actually explains what that light and

torch imagery is. In Ezekiel one thirteen, it reads, when he sees the likeness of the cherubim, the living creatures. As for the likeness of these creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire. Some of them say torches, burning lights. Now you say, well, wait a minute, Ezekiel's talking about cherubim. I thought you were saying that this

was God himself. It is because when you read Ezekiel, and we have a whole podcast on this, this is the presence of the spirit amongst the wheels or the cherubs. What is this fire? Well, it turns out Ezekiel tells you what this is. This is one like a son of Man riding the chariot. It's a throne chariot. The living creatures are the chariot that the logos the Son of Man rides. That's Ezekiel one through ten. Go watch my podcast on that. That's not what we're doing today.

But I'm just telling you that, showing you that the Bible interprets the Bible. The burning coals, the divine presence, the torches, the lights, it's the same thing happening in Genesis seventeen with fifteen excuse me, with Abraham. So it's going to be a miraculous birth. It's going to be a seed that somehow reaches all the people of the earth. God renames him here in the third statement of the Covenant in Genesis seventeen, I will give you the land

of Canaan as an everlasting possession. Oh does that prove dispensationalism. Well, at this point we want to look at Romans four. Therefore, this descendant, this descent of being in child of Abraham, is a upon all those who have faith and through grace are in this covenant. For is written I've made your father many nations in the presence of God, in whom Abraham believed, who gives life to the dead, and calls those two things which were not so. This is

a miraculous sonship and birth. So will your descendants be. And though he did not consider though not being weak in faith, he did not consider his own body already dead. He did not waver the promise of God, but was strengthening faith, and he became the heir. Right. If you read Romans for, you'll notice that the miraculous presence in the womb of this child, even though Sarah was advanced in age, this actually refers to the miraculous birth that

we experienced through faith. It's not just the seed, it's also we are reborn as new seeds. Right in Romans five, we are told that the gift is actually reigning through Christ through faith, and it is the whole world that is the taking of the land. So the typology of Canaan being taken by the Jews is fulfilled in the Church taking the whole land of the earth. The meek shall inherit the earth. Promise to Abraham is you'll be given this land of Canaan. That is a type of

the Church taking over the world through the Gospel. Everything happening in these covenants is typologically fulfilled in the New Covenant in the First Advent. So all of the evangelical dispensational heresies will prolong and postpone all the realities that Christ brought at the First Advent. Why because they are ecclesiological heretics. They don't understand the filment of these promises, not just in the person of Christ and his work, but in his Church, which is his mystical living body

in time and space. And that's why they were all severed from the historic Church. Now people think that there are no stipulations to the Braemi Covenant. That is not actually true. God says, you will keep my covenant and your descendants after you throughout their generations. This is the covenant that you will keep. You will do this, you

will be circumcised, et cetera. Circumcision is a type of baptism which is a symbol in part of the circumcision of the heart and the transformation of the inner man by the Holy Spirit. It is wrong to divorce that from the actual ritual that we do, and that's why Jesus says you must be born of water and spirit. That's why Acts two says repent and be baptize for the remission of sins, and they immediately water baptize people.

That's why it is called the labor of regeneration. All of the Gnostic Baptist heretics divorce the work of the Holy Spirit from the physical matter, and that's why they don't have sacraments. They revert to an Old Testament idea of what the rights are. So in other words, in their position, it's a retrograde movement to go from typological Old Testament rights to more typological rights. In other words, the rights don't do anything now other than what they

did in the Old Testament. Baptism is no different than circumcision for these people, but in the New Testament the realities are here. Because the Son of God has joined himself to matter to flesh, and he uses bread and wine and water because the Holy Spirit is joined then to those elements. And every heresy is a deviation from that reality that the old Old Testament types are pointing to. They all want to go back to Old Testament rights.

That's why Protestantism as a whole is ultimately a judaizing heresy, especially when it comes to its sacramentology. So and in Genesis twenty two we have another statement about the stipulation when Jesus steps in and stops Abraham from even giving up his son in this period of testing. But you'll notice he says, since you have not withheld your only son, all of these things I will give to you. This is another restatement of the Covenant. So you notice see

that Abraham is consistently done faithful covenantal actions. It doesn't mean he's sinless. He has committed sins, He's not a there's nobody sinless, but he has continued to be faithful to the Covenant, which even makes provision for sin. So there was never an expectation that anyone could be sinless by keeping the Covenant. Right, Okay, and by the way, you'll notice that for its first eighteen roilment, right in your seat, all the nations of the earth will be

blessed because you obeyed what I said. So notice that obedience is still even part of the Abramic covenant. This disproves the product distance who will say, oh, the Abramic Covenant was all about no works at all. Right, you don't do any works. That's only one sided covenant. And that's why Paul uses Abraham as the model of justification. But as we pointed out many times in Romans four,

Paul doesn't cite Genesis fifteen. He's excuse me. He cites Genesis fifteen, but he should have cited Genesis twelve, because according to the Protestant idea, Abraham would have been saved in Genesis twelve. That's when he would have been transitioned out of wrath into grace. So that refutes Protestanism in terms of Soli feede all right. Next, of course, is the Mosaic covenant in Exodus nineteen. And of course Moses, just like Abraham, is a type of Christ who is

the seed. Well, the seed is Jesus. According to Galatians three in Galatians four and Romans three and four. So we know that Jesus is the Seed and the Abramic Covenant, and so what Jesus brings is the fulfillment of the promises to Abraham. Now what does Jesus bring The opening up of the covenants to the Gentiles, which is prophesied in dozens and dozens of Old Testament passages, from the Psalms to Isaiah to the minor prophets, many many, many

times over. We did a whole talk on this years ago about how the prophecies are just messianic prophecies, there are also ecclesiological prophecies. In other words, the Church is also a massive element of the fulfillment of all these Old Testament passages of the Gentiles being brought into the Covenant. When you understand that, that means that the Church of History is the fulfillment of these things. The Church of

the first thousand years is not Protestant. Therefore, the Church of History is not the Protestant Church, and is the Orthodox Church that fulfills these promises. In the Mosaic Covenant, you have God making a promise to the nation of Israel that if they keep these these laws and these sacrifices and whatnot, they will be blessed in the land. God will prosper them and so forth. And it is

confirmed with blood sacrifice. Now, the New Covenant in Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of this because the passover the High Priest, all of those elements of this mosaic Covenant, according to the Book of Hebrews, are all explained as

fulfilled in the work of Christ. And even the High Priest when he goes in on the day of Atonement and he atones for the people at the ark of the Covenant at the mercy seat, that is explained by Hebrews seven to be when Jesus went into in the ascension the Holy of Holies in the Third Heavens and cleanse the way in our nature for us. So even the High Priest walking into the Holy of Holies on the day of Atonement is fulfilled in Jesus sending into

the Tabernacle in Heaven. This covenant, as we read the Book of Hebrews, is confirmed with blood. The New Covenant is confirmed in the blood of the High Priest himself, the son of God. That's why Jesus is prophet, priest and King. And that's why this icon actually teaches you that All of Orthodox iconography teaches you our theology. So when you see this picture of Jesus as the Great High Priest, is that right there that is teaching you that He fulfills the triplicity of roles of the Old

Testament prophet, priest, and king. All of those roles, the Old Testament prophets, the Old Testament priests, the Old Testament kings all point to Jesus. Did you know that in terms of the kingship, we look at Second Samuel seven, and this is the covenant that God makes with David. David is the next great typological figure that God makes a covenant with, which obviously points directly to Christ. Because once again we are told, through the seed of David,

God will build a house. This great house will bless all the nations, and it will be through his descendant that this righteous seed comes. Now, remember, even Jews believe that all of these prophecies and predictions are of the Messiah. They just don't think it's Jesus. So all of Jewish theology, at least Messianic Jewish theology and classical Jewish theology, still believes that this is talking about the Messiah. They just

don't think it's Jesus. But that's why the New Testament is so adamant to stress that Jesus is the descendant of Abraham and David, because the promise is to David, I will establish an eternal kingdom, an eternal house. My house will be through your son, and all of your sons will be my sons. Once again, just like with Abraham, it's not lineal descent, physical descent that is the ultimate

determiner of this. There is a biological aspect in that Jesus really was the biological descendant of Abraham of David, and then he comes right to fulfill those promises. But it's also spiritual in that it has opened up to the Gentiles, and thus the Gentiles come into the Orthodox Church, which is the spiritual Israel. It is that simple. There is no other church in history in the first thousand years of Christianity other than the Orthodox Catholic Church. Therefore,

it is the fulfillment of all these promises. And if other things deviate or go away, well, guess what happens. Covenant sanctions? What are covenant sanctions? Well, if we go back to Deuteronomy, God told the Israelites there are certain blessings in this relationship that we have, and in many passages throughout the Old Testament, God's relationship to Israel is pictured as a husband and a wife, as a man and his bride. Israel is the bride of God. That

imagery comes to fulfillment in Christ. The Messiah Israel incarnate. Jesus is Israel incarnate out of Israel. I've called my son speaking of Jesus as Israel. The Church is the bride of Jesus, the bridegroom. There are covenant sanctions and covenant blessings, just like with all the covenants. If Abraham was disobedient, then he would not have inherited those promises. He was obedient through an active, living faith. That's why Paul says in Galatians, faith working through love is what counts,

not empty dead faith, as James says. And so James and Paul are in harmony because Protestants don't read the rest of Galatians where Paul says that it has to be a faith working through love. So Paul's very clear what he means by a saving faith. It's the same thing James means Protestants just divorced this and create their own fictional legal categories to justify their stupid heresy. There's Covenant blessings and cursings. If you disobey, you get cursings.

If you obey, you get blessings. Now, it is true that at the time of the Mosaic Covenant, the emphasis was on the physical, temporal blessings. Even still though at this time there are spiritual blessings, but God was utilizing temporal a temporal focus to each a spiritual pedagogical lesson. So even then they were supposed to understand you circumcisee your heart. That's why Jeremiah says, circumcise your heart. That's

not invented in the New Testament. Jeremiah said that, in other words, even then circumcisis were supposed to teach you that it's the inner man that has to be changed. The only difference between the Covenant blessings here and what happens now is that the emphasis shifts. Whereas it was emphasized temporally at the Mosaic period, now that we're in the New Covenant, the emphasis switches to the spiritual emphasis. It still doesn't even mean that there's no temporal emphasis

or blessing. If you're blessed, it's still from God.

to the compromising Church of Pergamos. If you do not repent, I will come against you and fight against you with the spirit of my mouth, the sword of my mouth, again showing that the idiot premillennial view that the sword that precedes out of his mouth is not the Second Coming. It's the Covenant, curses and blessings in the preaching of the Gospel, even in the Book of Revelation itself. However, if at Pergamos you are faithful, I will give you of the hidden Manna. I will give you a white stone.

You will get certain blessings for obedience. If you are disobedient, you will undergo the curses. Blessings and curses in the New Testament applied to the churches, the New Covenant people. In other words, it's the bride bridegroom relationship, and it's covenantal and it's blessings and cursings based on whether you're faithful or unfaithful to the covenant. It is no different,

same relationship. Notice here, if you do not repent and continue to do the things that you're doing over here at Thia Tyra, I will come against you with disease and death, Jesus saying I'm gonna come kill you, not physically directly, but he will send a disease and death the same way he sent disease and death on the disobedient Israelites bopr. Exactly what Deuteronomy said. If you disobey, you get death and curses. If you obey, you will win.

You will dominate your enemies, and perhaps even in this life. That's why the Church was so powerful and victorious for so many years and for so many centuries. And then when you become like the world, you undergo covenant cursings and you are weak and you are trampled on. You can either dominate your opponents through divine power if you're faithful, or you will be dominated and perhaps even killed. This is no different than the blessings and cursings of Deuteronomy.

It's just a difference of emphasis. In fact, you're even worn that which one is it? One of them says, he says, I will take away your lampstand, so you won't even be in the covenant anymore. You will be removed blessings and cursings. Revelation two and three applied identically the same as Deuteronomy and limitic at twenty six. Now again the emphasis is different, so it is more spiritually focused. Now, but you'll notice, did Jesus say, oh, I will not

come with physical death. No, he said physical death and sickness. Paul says, if you come to the Eucharist and you eat unworthily, some of you are now dead physical death through transgressing, transgressing the covenant the covenant meal duh, So what does this mean? This means that the Church is Israel. It is the true Israel. Paul calls it the Israel of God Galatians six sixteen as many as you walk according to his rule his teaching, Peace be upon you

and upon the Israel of God. The Church is the Israel of God. In fact, Jesus makes this so abundantly clear in Matthew twenty one in the parable, it's kind of amazing that anyone doesn't believe this. When the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to the vine dressers? That's the Jews. Now he will destroy them. Have you not read the scripture? The stone that the builders rejected, Jesus is the stone the Jews are rejecting

him has become the cornerstone. Therefore, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation producing the first threat. That's the Gentiles. He's just using the word nation to symbolize or reference all of the other gentiles that would come in. This nation that he's talking about is his kingdom, the Church, wherein he says you, my apostles will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve

tribes of Israel. That's the Church Romans eleven. Wait a minute, but what about promises to Jews and the Old Testament Israelites. Salvation has come upon the gentiles to eventually provoke Jews to convert. That's the whole point. If Jews failing in their mission means that salvation is opened up to the Gentiles, well how much better will it be when they convert? How that is and when that is we don't know,

but they will convert. We're told that. Paul says, I'm speaking to gentiles because I am an apostle to the gentiles. If the casting away of the Jews out of the Covenant results providentially in the reconciling of the Gentiles to God, then what will it be when they accept Christ except life from the dead. For if the first fruit is holy, the lump is holy, the root is holies for the branches, some of the branches are broken off so that Gentiles

could be grafted in. That is not dual covenant. That is one tree, one branch, one covenant, and grafted in or grafted out. That the imagery refutes dual covenant theology, heresy of dispensationalism. You Gentiles and Rome will say, but the Jewish branches were broken off, that I could be grafted in. Okay, but do not be arrogant, but fear if God did not spare the natural branches, he may not spare you. Oh wait a minute, I thought the

Church of Rome is indefectible. Isn't it interesting that providentially Paul gives us warning too. The Church of Rome, which became haughty and ended up rejected. Rome had its lamp stand removed, exactly as was predicted for the other churches in Revelation that are disobedient. Paul is providentially saying this to the Church at Rome, that they will be haughty and arrogant. Beware if you continue Church of Rome in God's goodness, otherwise you will be cut off. Oh but

wait a minute. Did Paul not know about Vatican One that it's impossible for the Roman see to defect. It can never be cut off. How ridiculous is Roman Catholic nonsense theology? In regard to what Paul says, clear as day, blindness has happened to the Jews until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And then he goes on to say that in God's providence there will be a conversion

of the Jews and they will come to Christ. How and when that is we don't know, but God will remove the veil over their heart at some point, and the Church father's comment on this and almost all of than to talk about this admit, yes, there is a future conversion of the Jews. So there's a lot of dumb heresies to avoid here. We're not pre millennialists, we're not pre triped goobers. We don't worship the socialist nation state of Israel, which is founded as an atheistic, pantheistic,

nonsense state. It's a geopolitical entity, doesn't have anything to do with this. Jews as a people group, as a religious people group, well, at some future point become Orthodox Christians. How and when we don't know, but Paul is saying that that will happen in the future when the Gentiles have finished coming in, and I think this might even This is my speculation, so don't quote me on this

as all jays and things. He's a church faver. My speculation is that the largely majority Gentile church will actually apostatize and at some point the Jews will be grafted back in as converts to Orthodox Christians. That's my speculation. I could be wrong, but it seems to line up with the patterns that Paul talks about here. Now, all of that is one hundred percent contrary to the dispensationless narrative.

For example, there are many passages that talk about and we'll look at a couple of them, God enforcing the covenant sanctions to divorce Israel. Now, wait a minute, how does God keep his promise of I will never leave you, forsake you. You are Israel, I will always love you, you are my beloved, et cetera, et cetera, but also prophecies and predictions of the divorce of Israel. Hmmm, what we saw on Matthew twenty one forty three, Jesus is referring to that divorce. The Kingdom of God will be

taken away from you. Oh man, how long was that muted? Sometimes I hit that button? How long was that mute? Twenty? Okay, Well, basically I just argue that Jeremiah thirty one, I'll clip this and you can clip it out in the edit. Jeremiah thirty one talks about a new covenant, and it's a covenant on the heart, and it is not like the Covenant with Moses, and Jeremiah thirty three refers all to the Abrahamic and the Noek and the Davidic all together.

Other and it says that David will have a descendant called the Lord our Righteousness, who will sit on the throne. So my argument was that, wait a minute, when did God fulfill this promise to David in Jeremiah thirty three that there would never lack a descendant of David on the throne. After seventy a d there have been no Davidic Jewish kings. So did God fail in this promise?

If you are a Christian, this is fulfilled in the ascension of Christ, Christ ascended Psalm one ten, Sit in my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool. Thus there has never lacked a descendant of David on the throne because the Lord our Righteousness ascended and sat on the truth throne. Do you understand what we're saying? The Lord said to my Lord, sit in my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. The Lord will send the rod of your strength out of Zion

rule in the midst of your enemies. That is the Church. You didn't know that. Where does the New Testament cite when the When the New Testament cites Psalm one not anymore?

the ascension? What are you talking about? And Acts two thirty four and thirty five David did not ascend into the heaven. The Lord said it, my lord, sit in my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. Therefore, let all the house of Israel know that God has made Jesus Lord. So Psalm one ten is not the end of the world, it's the ascension. Do you know what the ascension is? I mentioned the processes. Don't even

know what we're talking about. That's when Jesus ascended after the resurrection, the beginning of the you never read it's beg of the Book of Acts. What are you talking about? How am I getting Protestantism wrong? I was a Protestant, I went to Protestant Bible college, Protestant seminary. I'm not getting anything wrong about Protestantism. I know it better than you do. I guarantee you. Jess White, what's up? Became a member Oul Josh became a member and gifted memberships

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Josiah Eleround twenty dollars, Austin Alvarez five dollars stubborn dispensationless refute Jay by saying, no, uh, I mean, I've never had an actual decent dispensations call in. Does do you do one of you want to call in? I mean, so the problem with the new microphone is that if you touch it, it has a censor based touch thing, and I can't actually see on the other side of it. So if I if my hand grazes it, it will mute anyway. At least we're not having all the choppy audio, right.

At least the audio is good. Bobby c says, if you get protestantsm wrong because you're committing the mute fallacy. Caleb of ten dollars. I was raised Baptist, and I was taught that the circumcision where baptism were done to show the world our faith, not that there were any interaction with Christ. Yeah, I know, I mean I was raised Baptist. Bro I know Peter said, repent to be baptized the name of Jesus Christ for the mission of

your sins, and you will receive the spirit. This promise, this is the covenant promise of Abraham is to you and your children. And they guess what. Immediately after that, a bunch of people get baptized in water. Three thousand people were water baptized that day. So there's no need to complicate things that are not actually complicated. Ah, Brosey, five dollars. I'm a paulologizing now for all the times that I've tagged you and the apply to James Lindsay,

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never gonna get to it. All of that sets the stage hopefully to show you that the New Testament.

Plan C, Plan D, et cetera. God created man, and he gave a covenant of works with Adam, and Adam failed, and so God established this next covenant called the Covenant of Conscience with canaan Abel who knows where Darby and Schofield got this. They just made it up. That failed, and so they gave Noah the covenant of human government. That's what you heard me referring to. With Noah having

the ability to exact the death penalty. That didn't do well, and so God called out Abraham and gave him a promise. And the promise of Abraham is a one sided, not works based covenant, a covenant of grace. And that's contrasted to the covenant with Moses, which is a covenant of works. And so some dispensation. Let's actually believe that you could be saved by doing good works and keeping the Mosaic Covenant.

That's that stupid. But what they don't realize is that Paul says that the Gospel was preached to Abraham Glatians three eight Scripture for seeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preach the Gospel to Abraham, saying in you all the nations shall be blessed. That means, contrary to what idiot Trent Horn said, they actually believed in the Trinity. They actually believed in Jesus. There's no way to be saved other than Jesus. The only difference is

that Abraham didn't just look forward to him. I mean he did, but Abraham knew him. Because when you study the Theophanes and you understand that Abraham is eating with Jesus, now you see, oh, that's how he worships the Trinity. He met Jesus in person. In fact, that is the Orthodox Catholic teaching. Trent Horn doesn't even know that his stupid heresy of denying the belief in the Trinity in the Old Testament makes him an Aran and a Muslim.

What does sat Maximus say? Same Maximus Confessor taught that Abraham believed in and worshiped the Trinity. God appeared to Abraham, who was perfetent knowledge and who already possessed an intellect completely beyond matter ins figurations. God taught him that the immaterial principle of the Trinity, and here's in the principle of its unity. For this reason, God to appeared to

Abraham as three and spoke as one. We've done countless lectures on the Theophanes and the Trinity in the Old Testament, and if you don't get it at this point, you're not gonna get it. Go watch my videos on that. Now back to the dispensations. Well, these things kept failing, and so once the law covenant failed, God decided to bring a covenant of grace for Gentiles. I'm owner to the Covenant of Grace. Wait a minute, something is sounding fishy here. Did you know that John Hagy wrote a

book that Jesus is not a child? No, but Jesus is not shi Yes, you heard me right. Listen.

been writing about this for about ten years now. James Pearloff wrote a great piece. It's a chapter in one of his books, but it goes into quite a lot of detail about the history of Schofield being promoted for the British imperial interest, with the establishment of the nation state of Israel, with the Balfour Declaration. All of that comes up, the funding from Samuel Untermeyer, which I've talked about as well for a long time. And I mean we've done many many podcasts on this. This is not

even really this is shouldn't be controversial. It should be pretty well known by now. There's also if you look, if you want more detail on Scofield himself, Father John Whiteford and Buck did a dispensational talk here. It's really good. No Jews I can say. I would say, go check out the heresy of dispensationalism with Father John Whiteford and bub Johnson up here at Counterflow. I'll put this in

the chat for you. And although today we focused a lot more on the biblical continuity of the covenants, that will actually go a lot deeper into Schofield himself and how he was a con man and all this nonsense behind him. But I want to also remind you guys that man I can't type what is the Kingdom of God? In Luke seventeen twenty one, Jesus says, they will not say see here or see there, For indeed the Kingdom of God is within you. When he talked to Peter,

he said, blessed are you, Simon Barjona. Right on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Peter has an office of exercising the keys of the Kingdom. How is this possible if the Kingdom is a two thousand year later, three thousand year later future reality. Obviously, the Kingdom is the Church. It is identified as the Church many times over. The Kingdom is the Church. It is the Holy Nation,

the royal priesthood one Peter two. It is the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven that Paul says is a present reality in Galatians four. We are the children of Promise, like Isaac, the children of the Jerusalem above, the heavenly Jerusalem, Mother Church right there, the Mother of us all Galatians four twenty six. Mother Church, present reality, not an eschatological, end times postponed thing. Now, it's an already not yet, it's not in its fullness in the

sense of like evil being destroyed and all that. But it has come in its reality and in its power in the Church. Thus, if you want to see the Kingdom of God, did you know you can go down the road and see it. This is the fountain of Immortality. It is then of God on earth.

together over here at Orthodox Shata. It is an absolutely necessary watch because it connects the churches reality based, heavenly based worship, which is what John is seeing in Revelation five through nine, which we have covered ad nauseum, when John looks into heaven and he sees in chapters five through nine, vestiments and liturgy and incense, and the prayers of the saints being offered by the angels, and the martyrs under the altar, praying for the Church on earth,

and the Lamb slain bleeding in heaven, et cetera. All of those things are images that are the reality that we have in the Orthodox Christian worship. That's our view, that's our interpretation. It's not all at the end of the world. The end of the world is now. That's why the New Testament, the Book of Acts says what Joel's describing as the last Days has come upon us at Pentecos and Acts two, it.

Here we see the contracted form, but in this three D recreation of the original Hagia Sophia cathedral design we see a much larger ambon located in the center of the nave, from which the readings of the sacred Text would be done. Here is a clip from a synagogue of a rabbi bringing the Torah out from the arc, followed by a clip of another rabbi reading the Torah, and then a clip of another rabbi showing the Torah

to the congregation after the reading. Unfortunately, they have to be three different chopped up clips because it was extremely difficult to find even remotely decent quality footage of traditional synagogue worship.

its frescoes could be admired. It seemed to be an exception in contradiction to Jewish iconoclasm. Actually, as Eleazar Sukenik in his study on the ancient synagogues shows, the Duo Europos Synagogue is an exception only because of the unique preservation of its decor, but in practically all of the ancient synagogues there are vestiges of a very similar decoration, we must conclude. He emphasizes that it was only at a late date, and out of an undoubted reaction against Christianity,

that the synagogues came to forbid any figurative ornamentation unquote. Again, we see that God does care about these things, since he goes into such elaborate detail and even warns that if the priests do not wear certain items of clothing upon ministering, that they will die. We will also note that God spares absolutely no expense when it comes to making his worship lavish and beautiful. Christian use of vestments developed after the liturgical contraction, as the Church began to

express herself more freely and fully after the persecution. When the bishop is vested traditionally by minor clergy as a sign of humility. A prayer is said when he puts on each piece. So concludes the analysis of continuity between church structure and items. We will now move on to the liturgical worship itself, some of its components, meaning, and the continuity it has with the Old Testament. I must again stress that this video can only cover so much.

It is only scratching the surface of the typology and the symbolism found within the liturgy. Let us now turn to the structure of the Divine Liturgy itself. Although not so strictly divided, the liturgy has two halves. The first half is the Liturgy of the ctcumans. Catacumans are people who are undergoing instruction in the Christian faith before being received into the Church by baptism or chrismation. The second half is the Liturgy of the faithful. If we recall the structure.

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know what that means. Sounds like Marxism's permanent revolution. Is there connection between these things? I just think it's, you know, Protestants, it's the logic of Protestantism that you have to constantly keep reforming because it's always the church is always failing. Right, there's no belief that the church is a supernatural institution that's guided and protected count trad chat. What's the name of the documentary? I put it in the chat Man

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is the traditional Judaism split? What is the traditional Judaism split into Kabalistic third Temple? Is that Orthodox Jews maintaining Old Testament Judaism. I'm not sure what you mean by split. I mean Rabbinic Judaism is all over the place, so there's as many different Jews as there are the Jewish theology as there are Jews. So I don't know what you mean by the split off. If you mean that, I mean Kabbala could even be just mysticism that doesn't

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be quite a wide variety of speakers, Jamie. We'll be talking about ancient pagan religions and occultism. Doctor David Patrick Harry will be talking about like transhumanism and that kind of stuff that you can intern. Iye, so'll be talking about philosophy. Father Vladimir will be talking about aesthetics and

Orthodox iconography. I will be talking about logos theology. So I don't think you really have to do like any necessary reading ahead of time, really, just you know, continue to affiliate yourself with familiarize yourself with Orthodox you know, study Bible, that kind of stuff. But thank you for that support there. I appreciate that average red head. Looking forward to meeting you and everybody else at the conference. James, five dollars. My message is too long. Can you find

it in the live chat? It's about salvation and anthropomorphic language. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, I mean you can only scroll back so far. Bro, Why aren't you just calling on the next live and ask me in in the X spaces Now we didn't really get into, hopefully what you see in tonight's discussion was maybe this will be a part one of dismissasions because we didn't really get into like the geopolitical stuff. Maybe I'll do a separate stream covering James Pearloff's articles.

But tonight's discussion was really about Quevinant theology and the unification of God's plan. Now, if you don't know, I did a talk years ago that will cover I think this one covers h predictions in the Old Testament of the Gentile Church. This one, I forget which I think this one covers trend into the Old Testament, but I think I'm referring to this one. I don't know why it's titled that, because it doesn't really happen to do

with what I think. What I argue here is that the Gentile Church is also kind of a way to see prophecies being fulfilled and therefore proof for the scriptures. I think, yeah, I think so. But we also talked about church fathers back then too, So this is old school here. This is eight years ago. Wow. But a lot of the questions that you guys have will also be answered eight years ago in that podcast or that video.

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you're booted. We're going to establish the wigers Antium Empire soon. Kyle, five dollars. Get Jamie to organize your playlist? What playlist you mean on my channel? Nobody ever pays attention to those anyway, There's literally no one pays attention to playlists on the channel. You think, oh, I'll make these playlists, they'll be organized. No no one ever looks at them, no one ever goes to them. It doesn't matter how

organized it is, that they're never used. Like, I've had this same stuff here for seven years, and I get the same questions, where are your debates? Where did you do public formal debates with anybody? You mean the giant playlist of that, So there really is no point because no one actually pays attention to the playlist. It's just

everyone's retarded like and share and again. I will probably make this into a series, right, This will be like a part one, then we'll do a part two and a part three because we only kind of got into the unity of the Covenant to refute dispensationalism, and we're going to have to go into the geopolitical side of it as well, which we covered in my Twitter space. So we've been doing NonStop Twitter spaces when I'm on the road. I forgot to mention too, you know, as

we kind of get into that domain. There is quite a bit that we can go into in regard to why did the Boomer evangelicals worship Israel? Well, this psyop comes from hucksters like Hal Lindsay, who promoted the dispensational heresy to millions of people in the nineteen seventies. The book treats Gog and Magog as Cold War villains and the enemies of quote Israel. The same huckster then tried

to predict the Rapture in nineteen eighty eight. It should be obvious that this is a toe retard to heresy and part of Cold War syops, that's how Lindsay's late Great Planet Earth, and then how Lindsay's book The Rapture. So I mean, you can't make this stuff up. But that's why so many of the boomer evangelicals are just basically mind controlled into this position and you can't even argue them out of it. They just can't even like it's just locked into their mind. Dude, right wing nouck

fourteen dollars? Do you have an extensive book list saved anywhere? I used to have a booklest on the website the past. Twitter live streams are on my Twitter, bro. I'm not trying to be impatient, but it's like, if.

Discord talks, so look forward to that. Thank you guys. A lot of fun tonight. I think we're gona have to make it a series, so this will be part one and then we'll get into the history of dispensationalism, the Calvary Chapel movement and all that in the next stream. Thank you guys.