BACKROOMS: LIMINAL SPACE IS WORSE THAN YOU KNEW -Jay Dyer

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Everybody want to talk about back rooms? A lot of y'all gay is hell talking about the back door because of my scandal video you just watch right, that's that's within the alien sphere, that's adjacent to aliens, faking aliens. Everybody wants talk about the back rooms. All right? Look, I wrote some notes because I was thinking about this. I watched some good videos and I've been thinking that about this for a while. What is up with the back rooms? Right now? We got this movie coming out,

which I'm actually excited about. I think it's gonna be a really good movie. And I am impressed with Caine and his skills. Caine Parsons, your boy, Caine Parsons. Listen, you got Billy Corson and you got Caane Parson, Caine Parson, Billy Corson. Okay, that's how I feel. This trailer was awesome. I have to say, and I mean even watching Caine Parson's clips and videos, I was super impressed. I was like, this dude is skilled. Do got a skill set? You

know what I'm saying. And so I'll show you real quick. Yeh, something's wrong with the wall. Right, he's doing a late night clean up. He looks over there and there's a hole in the wall, and uh, don't don't get upset. This black man works there. He's not there illegally, he's a he's an employee. I know what you racist people already thinking, what is this black man doing on the

security is he on the security camps? He gets in there and he finds a hole in the wall and then he walks through it and lo and behold, it's the back room. It's the liminal space. Son, what's the

liminal space? The liminal space evolved out of creepy pastas and this idea on four chan read at this kind of stuff, that there were spaces that you could no clip into, you could glitch out of reality into some alternate infinite hell world, a sort of labyrinth, right of the corporate nihilistic empty space between worlds or between realities. The liminal space is from a Latin word that has

to do with threshold, so an in between. I think also simultaneously with that kind of its own Internet lore taken on a life of its own, you also had other films and popular books and things that popularize the liminal space, right, Stranger Things or Stranger's Thing, if you watched the last season, and that popularized the upside down. Right, this other world, this other dimension, this other reality that is the negative space. It is a you know, perhaps

a purgatorial sort of idea. There's a lot of parallels, right, And I also think it resonates with everyone because well, I've got a whole list of reasons of my thoughts on it. It also resonates because of the emptiness of the corporate world, the cold, calculated corporate world, and it's nihilistic, abandoned and the meaninglessness of a corporate lifestyle to attain corporate products that ultimately go out of style within five to ten years anyway. So it's a sort of meaningless

oral buros eating its own meaningless tale. And then the idea becomes, what if you entered that space of something like a stock footage video. What if you went into the world where stock footage was reality, but not stock footage of today, not a present day reality, but for some reason, always connected to always grasping back to the eighties and the nineties. For some reason, everyone felt that the lore of the back rooms in the liminal space

was necessarily connected to the eighties and nineties. Why is that? Here are my theories, This is my thoughts. It is resonating with people because we are at a threshold of generations where people like myself on the cusp of Gen X and millennial. As a zennial, I remember the world prior to Internet. Okay, prior to internet everywhere. The generations under me do not know that world, and that world

was still essentially primarily human. I met tech was obviously beginning to invade our life with vhs, CDs, DVDs, et cetera. MP three began to be popular in the late nineties early two thousands, but your day to day did not include significant amounts of Internet at all unless you have some lame ass dialogue and then you could wait twenty minutes for a low resolution picture to load up right. Otherwise, you didn't spend a whole lot of time on the

Internet until the early two thousands. Right, So we are remembering there is still in the collective unconscious this memory of a time when there was a human realm. Even at work, the corporate work part of your life, there was still this human element to where you had a limited time there. You went to a physical location, you had your own office, you had your own desk, et cetera. Right, even when you got started having cubicles, right, you still

had your own space. You decorated it the way you wanted, et cetera. And even office space changed with the times to where you didn't have your own office. Everyone worked in an open space in the cubicles, and then the cubicles went away and you went into having open spaces, and then you have shared desks that you do like at Verizon or whatever. Right, So you've seen less and less individualism even within the workspace. It's all been homogenized

and corporatized and made linear and made flat. And because the back rooms are a labyrinth that has no resolution, that immediately expresses the nihilism of the modern corporate mindset in corporate world. But it's frozen in the eighties and the nineties because that was the period when there's the last remembrances of it being still human. Right, So you have people's desks, people's property, their own expressions now completely erased,

and in the back rooms there's no people. So a human being is actually out of place in the corporate world or in this corporate dystopian hell dimension because it's anti human. The corporate world had as it's underlying engine and ethos and anti human idea the entire time, because the logic of it was everything is quantified, everything is quantifiable.

It's inherently nihilistic and anti natalists and anti human, so it must, of its own logic, eventually eliminate all of the human and all of the particular and all of the individual to eventually just propagate itself as negating any of the commodities that it produced. And so the corporate space exists eventually to only perpetuate an anti human, non

human corporate space with no objects or no products. Why because the ultimate goal of the monopoly attitude is actually to destroy all competition and thus the products that it sells. Even after it's gotten rid of the humans, the products are no longer necessary. And other was products were an end. What it means to an end? It was never about creating a better product. It was about creating the end of humanity. Thus, we look back on the threshold of a time to a time when it was still human.

We look back to the liminal spaces of the shopping mall. Right, perhaps shopping mall back rooms and liminal spaces are even more telling in this regard. Right. I also have some theories to as to why this has become so popular online. I actually think the Internet is itself the liminal space as well. I'll show you what I mean here with

a couple of examples of this dead malls. Right. The dead mall, as we like to call it, is an eerie, corporate liminal space with its own esthetic and vibe that now has no people and has no product and becomes this sort of ideological museum to a forgotten time and a forgotten way of being that we can remember, but also we can't remember because when you look at it without any people, and the purpose of the shopping mall was to sell the products, right, So to see it

without humans and without products, it almost seems like a dystopian healthscape, where what if the purpose of all this and its purpose less ness was actually to produce a kind of purposelessness in the humans themselves. I'm not saying that every mall owner, and I'm not trying to make some Marxist socialist critique or something like That's not what I'm saying, or I'm not a Marxist or a socialist.

But I'm saying when you have a materialist capitalist society, and the same goes for Sovietism too, because they're both materialists atheistic presuppositions. If you have a monopoly capitalistic societies, presupposition by the attainment of meaningless corporate goods that also become meaningless within a few years because they're no longer trendy and they're not actually made to last, they're actually made to through planned obso lessons go away. It speaks

to the emptiness of the cycle. Right. Yeah, I've seen im think I've seen all of Kine Caine's videos. Yeah, I think Day of the Dead and Chopping Mall. Although they're goofy b movies, they actually have some of these deeper philosophic themes in them. And we did a whole analysis of Chopping Mall. If you didn't ever watch that back in the in the old days, we actually hit on some of that back when we did Chopping Mall, because if you don't remember, the villain in Chopping Mall

is like a Robbie the Robot version. It's like a terminator, but it's like a B movie version a terminator, so it's like, yeah, here we go. See now. I hate it when it doesn't come up because we did a whole stream on it. Anyway, I can't think of the name of our stream, but yes, we did. We did do Chopping Mall. I have to find it later. But so, the liminal space speaks to all of these realities, and some philosophers have called it. I watched the guy's video

on this that was pretty good. I'll give you a link to that video in a second, where it's just a guy who does sort of philosophical ruminations on YouTube, and I have disagreements with some of his assessments. He comes off as kind of an existentialist, sort of agnostic sort of character, but I did like some of his takes on the liminal space in the mall, and he noted that it's almost like as some philosophers are calling it,

a existential How did he put it? He said, it's industrial Gothic or corporate Gothic, So you know, go back to Gothic literature in the UK and then in Victorian era, and then we have in the US Southern Gothic with people like you know, Flannery O'Connor and whatnot, and Cormack

McCarthy as well. But with the liminal Space, you have a modernized version of corporate industrial Gothic where the great horror is the meaninglessness of what was so meaningful apparently at the time, right in the nineteen eighties and in the nineteen nineties. And the mall ones are really interesting.

And again remember Stranger Things also, I think played a huge role in this because what was the season three, The whole season was about the mall, right, the Dead Mall being this sort of portal to the in between, to the hell world, and so it becomes its own esthetic, its own vibe. And this is Caine's channel, who originally sort of popularized a lot of these and his videos, his you know, film school stuff was so good and it became such a viral sensation over the last several

years that they actually made him the director. So I think he's going to do well. I'm expecting it to be really cool. But if you go back to his older videos, and I think I've watched most of these when he was doing film school stuff, he did one here. This was the original back Rooms that's had like eighty million views, which is crazy. And it was a genius idea, right to just kind of play around with looking into abandoned buildings or abandoned cargo stuff, and then you walk

in and you find another reality, another dimension. And then people started getting more and more philosophical with it, and he was filming it with this sort of old school VHS look. But also people helped contribute to the lore. Right you had Reddit people, creepypasta people telling their own versions of the back rooms, and then on top of that, you had TV shows that came out probably also influenced by this, even though I know this was from a book,

but Severance, everybody said, what about Severance, Severance, Severance. I've been meaning to get to Severance for so long, But the reason that I haven't got to it is because I think there's so many other things that it ties in with, like the back rooms of the liminal space, that it makes sense to kind of talk about them altogether.

Because in Severance, the premise is that you have an intentional process that you can go through where they split your consciousness so that you are mpdd ID to have in any in and outy any being the person that is at the work world, and they have their own life in the work world, and they are split so that they don't know the life of the person outside

of work. So it's actual like split, you know, multiple personality disorder, but it's engineered by a mega corporation that does it to benefit supposedly the workers and to help production and all this kind of stuff. And I've seen

season one. I thought it was really good, and I'm about halfway through season two and it's it's interesting, But it also I think speaks to probably unknowingly the elements of the actual mkulture projects and how they were studied and by how they were perfected by entities actually working for corporate structure, corporate interests. In other words, the Tavistock Institute, which was the first to really study mpdd ID through studying shell shock and then got all this money put

into it through the Rockefellers. They brought in Carl Jung, brought in all kinds of people over the years to study and perfect social engineering and human control. That's ultimately what Tavistok is about, and what began as World War One wartime psychological operations actually turned into an entire global institute connected to MK Ultra intent on engineering the human mind to be obedient and to be involved in groupthink.

So they really pioneered and mastered groupthink. And they did it they were contracted out by not just the CAA, not just the US government of the Pentagon, but the Fortune one hundred, Fortune five hundred. So, for example, when you see people like Peter Drucker who comes up with the business church model of Ruslan and all these other people from Rick Warren to Rick Warren to Rouselan business

church model is this. It is Tavistock social engineering groupthink models of how to streamline the business side of the church to make it more efficient, Taylorism, et cetera. All the above, right, But to get back to the back rooms and to Severance, which because I haven't finished season two, I don't exactly know where Severance is going to go. But it is also consciously alluding to the corporate k culture elements within the show and in the course that

you can imagine in the story. It's a question of, well, do we really want to be divided against ourselves? Which is probably a kind of a Marxist line of augmentation, because Marx's whole theory of alienation includes the idea that you're divided against yourself and against your product and against

nature through the corporate world. I'm not a Marxist, but I do think at times Carl Marx said some things that were correct, and I do think that at times if you commodify everything, that would be the natural result, right, you would have man divided not just against other men, but also alienated from the work that he produces from his hands and also from nature.

a plastic tree, but usually it's there's not. Usually there's just variations on the corporate scape, and that corporate healthscape or the patterned versions of the way that they do hotels now, which are becoming more and more if you haven't noticed, like hospitals, and the same with and I know this because we've traveled a whole lot in the last five years, and we've stayed everywhere coast to coast

countless times. Hotels are they don't have any flavor to them, right, the corporate ones, they all become a kind of representation of the exact same thing that you've get in a hotel, in a hospital, and in a hospice, in an all folks home, and then also perhaps in a bank. And that's why you, guys, we've all noticed this with McDonald's too, Right, Suddenly all of the corporate businesses out there are gray. McDonald's is gray. Tons of fast food restaurants they all

have the same gray look. We went by a Barnes and Noble, the other bookstores, it looked no different than a McDonald's with corporate Soviet gray. Isn't that interesting that what was Soviet brutalist architecture supposedly the opposite of capitalism, right, the opposite of capitalism. Let's look up Soviet brutalist architecture, and it's like all giant concrete, you know, it looks like nuclear concrete, the you know, bomb refuge type stuff

like Turnobyl. Is no different than the freaking hotel, right, Like this, what was supposed to be a you know, chernobyl structure is basically the same thing as the hotel Soviet brutal brutalism in terms of architecture. Right, everything is gray, everything is ugly, and there's a reason for that because it expresses the philosophy of everything being streamlined and homogenized.

Because anything that's not streamlined for efficiency is purposeless. So to have decor to have you know, neoclassical baroque styles, that would be a waste of money. It's inefficient. So you notice that corporate megastructure, monopoly capitalism's ethos is exactly the same as the Soviet brutalist ethos. Isn't the fast and if you watch, I mean look, that was like a damn death star or some shit, just hideous. Right, it's brutalist, it's dystopian. Now let's look at what does

every McDonald's look like. Now, this the same thing, a giant concrete block where you get your soy slopol soyslap, just hideous, colorless, worthless looking slop out of a giant concrete block. Come to the dystopian concrete block where all of the bipoc persons will serve you your slop. And by the way, this is what boomers think you should go die for in other countries, So go die for Israel in the Middle East to get this, to make sure that we can put a McDonald's on every corner

of Tehran. I don't know, maybe Teyran already has McDonald's. But you see that this end goal of the corporate sphere is indistinguishable from the Soviet brutalist atheist because they're all nihilistic, they're all atheistic in their vibe, in their ethos, and the black rooms are basically expressing the same type

of critique. Also, I think that if you remember vapor wave, right synth wave as synth it became popular, you know, ten fifteen years ago, synth wave is expressing an innate dystopian idea within it because a lot of the art, a lot of the vibe of the synth wave was dystopian in the nineteen eighties and nineties were hosts of

dystopian films, so they kind of became attached. They're adjacent to the milieu, the ethos of the nineteen eighties, of its zeitgeist, and then it's only natural that what develops out of synth wave as a kind of first phase critique of corporate nihilism would develop Vaporwave right. And vapor Wave gave us a critique of mall music right, corporate

meaningless overproduced muzak. If you don't know because you're young or something, in the nineteen eighties and nineties, when you go to the mall or when you're an elevator, they would have these specific types of stations or boxes called muzak zak right, And it was the corporate way to have all of your favorite songs in a non copyrighted way. So it was like elevator music, and you might hear Kenny G, but it's the muzak version of Kenny G.

So it's not the actual song. It's a voiceless, corporate version of an actual pop song. Now, musak existed earlier in the sixties and seventies, but I'm saying by the nineteen eighties muzak was doing you know, I don't know. You would hear Go West, but it would be the muzak version of Go West, right, So sounds for the supermarket, right. And so vapor wave was a layer of parodying all of this by turning it into a critique of itself.

Right and probably everybody's heard of the Macintosh plus, right, this was probably the biggest hit from this era of vapor wave, critiquing this type of nihilistic, meaningless s mall culture or corporate culture. And if you grew up in the eighties, you resonated with this very well, right, It hits you somehow, there's something about it that makes sense because you're reminiscing and remembering a time when it was

a very different world. So again, liminal space is hitting everybody so hard, not just because of nostalgia, but because we are on a threshold of moving into a world where the dystopia is actually rolling out. All of those eighties, these movies, all of those dystopian films and stories and novels and comic books, there was within the zeitgeist a

prophetic sense that this is coming, that this will arrive. Now, you could say maybe there was an actual prophetic gift that art usually has oftentimes has We've talked about them many times, or perhaps it was seated propaganda and some of the blockbusters and productions. Who knows what the real total explanation was. But we are resonating with it, not just because of nostalgia, not just because of the past. But this is something that I've heard no one else say,

And this is my thought. What if what if the controllers, the social engineers, the technocrats, what if they've realized that to really destroy the peoples and the people groups, to corral them into the tech skynet dystopia. What if the best thing to destroy. Obviously I'm saying this includes God, the exists of God, all that stuff. Sure, and yeah, they want to destroy the nuclear family. Hey, I get it, I know all that, but nobody has talked about what

about destroying the past? What about wiping out and destroying the idea of the past. To have the dystopia, to have it successful, you must also wipe away any rootedness or groundedness of the past. And I don't just mean, oh, yeah, the global elites go into a city, a place they bomb in the Middle East, they wipe out the past and they set up you know, the McDonald's dystopia. I

know that, But what about on an individual level. On an individual level, say a person who goes tr A and Z. A person who goes tr A and Z say they're you know, hitting the era of puberty or God forbid, even before. What is part of that ideology. Part of that ideology is there was no past. You were not actually born a man or a woman, you didn't actually have the upbringing that you had. You can erase all of that and immediately create a new identity

for the here and the now. So the presupposition of all of the dystopia has to be a Maoist idea of erasing all the past. And this is something that they got from the Communists and the Maoists and the Marxists. You must destroy the past. It must all come down. It is like the Giver. Yeah, all of the dystopian stories all so do you usually have some We've hidden the past, right, which is a version of destroying the past.

But I'm just saying, whether it's the back rooms and the idea that, oh you don't need books anymore, just watch the YouTube videos. Oh you don't need to watch YouTube video, just watch the shorts and the TikTok brain rot. What is all of that about. It's all about squeezing the time frame smaller and smaller so that there's no past. In other words, within a video, you're not even remembering

what you saw twenty minutes earlier. In the video, you're only remembering a sixty minute clip, and you perhaps you even forgot what the sixty minute clip was saying, or sixty second clip what it was saying in the first few seconds. So the squeezing of the time scale smaller and smaller is also concurrent with nobody has a pass. The pass is being squeezed into the right now, just the now. The entire tech world and all of this

is built on immediacy, efficiency and immediacy. Why read a book when you could ask the AI to summarize it and give you a one sentence a five sentence summary. Why do anything that isn't efficient? Why write a letter? You have an email. I'm not saying the tech itself

is the problem. The problem is the more that everyone gets addicted to the ease and the immediacy, then the more that they begin to operate like an algorithm as human beings, refining everything down to what's efficient what's not efficient. That I think is something that I've not heard anyone talk about in terms of and I know it's malis saying that there's not Other people have talked about wiping away the past, but I'm saying it's not just wiping

away the past from a culture or a person. It's wiping away the past for individuals, your own past, and there is no future. So we talk about, for example, God being an eternal present, right, There's no past or future with God, There's only the eternal. Now, this is like a synthetic tech version of God giving you a godmind, a fake mimicked, faking gay godmind, where you believe that you're like the deity that only lives in the immediate present.

And they have studied the communist dictators and their strategies for wiping away the past in the physical world. But what if they're wiping away the past from everybody in the mental world and in their own family world. Because families, for example, they have a story, they have a past, have a present, and a future goals that they have as a family. A nation has a past, a present,

and future goals as a nation state. But if everyone lives online in the virtual, and the virtual denigrates the past and tries to erase it and wipe it away and to make everyone only focused on the immediate through the dopamine addictions of the scrolling, then what happens is everyone has a false godlike status of only living in

the present. Right, And as the back room story progressed, as Caine made his videos, he started bringing in these hooded sort of science dudes, right, because that's exactly what

happened in today's world. If there was some portal to another world or something like this discovered, why immediately the science men would come to try to explain it, and they would do their tests, and they would begin to investigate the you know, early layers of the back rooms and where they go, which is to say they go nowhere. They lead to loops of meaninglessness. In fact, the back rooms like a labyrinth or like the you know THESEUS

minotaur story, they actually change. They're not logical, they are illogical, and they're more like prisons that trap you in a sort of nihilistic meaninglessness, perhaps expressing the way everyone feels that they're trapped in a nihilistic meaninglessness today. And he really kept building on the architecture of the original idea by people finding other doorways into the back rooms. Right.

So here's another one where this guy starts exploring, he finds a door, and then he the deeper he goes into the back rooms, and of course eventually gets lost. He starts finding these sort of hellscapes that are like fake model houses that are for sale. Right, and if I remember, in this one, he kind of hears the voices of like his sister through the wall or something. This one's really good, it's pretty. This one was really genuinely creepy. But you can never really get anywhere in

the back rooms. And just like in the story of theseus in the Labyrinth and the minotaur right at at at the heart of the of the labyrinth is a monster, and you can never really defeat the monster. Right, I don't know what the monster might be. And I mean people have positive different ideas, like it's the corporate monopoly capital system itself that is the monster. And here, for example, he gives he did some videos where he kind of puts a animatronic sort of monster in the back rooms.

He called it the rolling Giant. And then he did another one where there was a guy thing out in the woods and he found this out in the middle of nowhere, like a pothole or something, or like a stairs near a tree. Yeah, here it is, there's these stairs near a tree. And then even out in nature, right, what's underneath nature, according to this version of the back rooms is actually also this fake world of endless corporate

back room creepiness. Right. Thus, all of reality itself via the videos is thus the upper layer of an infinite it's infinite turtles all the way down of a fake reality. What does this mean in my view? Because the back rooms are really also kind of fake. In other words, there's nothing actually and then that's useful or substantial or meaningful. It's all just like worthless corporate desks, furniture, et cetera. Then perhaps reality itself in the postmodern corporate world is

itself a meaningless virtual reality. Thus it speaks to all the people who think that we live in a simulation, right, they buy into this very easily. What if reality itself is meaningless? Right, that's ultimately what this means. And if you have this worldview, then real is meaningless, right, because you're in this corporate viper system that makes you work for it your whole life and then you die, and

so you're essentially like the office furniture. You're just another piece of the office furniture that gets replaced once you're no longer useful to human resources, and even human resources itself is a denegrating, dehumanizing title because you're not actually a person. You are a battery, a resource, a limited resource, or perhaps not limited, because you can easily just be replaced.

And thus the logic of the corporate world is just simply to reproduce the meaningless corporate world that is it,

But included within that is getting rid of the humans. Right, And thus people see, then what if all of reality is really just this world, this healscape, And that, I think is what is the power of the film I Suspect and the the art films and the project here, right, is that this is speaking to everyone in some deep archetypal level and in some deep deep archetypeal way that all of modernity, because it's all premised on this ideology,

something is wrong. It's off, it's all upside down, and of course many of the elements in layers and levels are upside down within the back rooms, so much like an mcsher painting, you're stuck in a strange loop, right, and go back to our old talks and our old videos on the strange loops, watch some of this. I'll be back. I love the Spell of Bright Palm in the morning.

abilities have evolved to such a high level. That, in addition to perceiving the world around us like a lot of other species.

He wrote Gardell esher Bach. You guys know, we've talked about the loops that Gardell talked about in terms of set theory, and Hofstatter got the Nobel Prize for writing that book because he noticed patterns with the way that sets work, the way that music works, particularly certain Bach and Beethoven symphonies the way they're written, and also with mc usher's art, with the dimensionality that exists within his art because it's two D, but it shows all these

three D images right and sometimes, especially within the labyrinth paintings, you find these infinite loops. And so he formulated this connection between language, perception, set, theory, music, all these different domains and how there is this repeated pattern of the loop, and nobody else has noticed the back rooms also being the same type of a strange loop.

every experience you've ever had. Every site, smell, taste, feeling, and memory has been mediated by your senses. And yet when we start to investigate what exactly is going on in the mind. When we say I, something trippy happens, the concrete conviction of who you are, who I is starts to crumble. Not only that, but the very reality of I comes into question. Follow this thread far enough and you run smack into a paradox. This is known as the paradox of self, and its conclusion is equal

parts fascinating and unsettling. It argues that although we.

for the presupposes a no werre. And so Kant argued that to make a knowledge claim at all is a presubositional type of art argument for a transcendental unity of apperception concept and all that that's just fancy terminology for the self, that there is some sort of conscious self that is the har of the experiences or a har of the knowledge, right. And so that's kind of touching on this here.

But whichever you choose, you're bound to draw complaints that you ignored or misinterpreted or flat out didn't understand some crucial aspect of the self, which is basically my way of saying sorry in advance if I ruffle some feathers. The best approach draws from as many fields as possible, all of which have something useful to contribute to our understanding. That's why in this video I rely heavily on Douglas Hofstadters.

I am a strangely an ambitious, creative, beautiful attempt to answer these questions by drawing from math, art, music, science, philosophy and personal experience. Howstadter, who won the Politzer Prize in nineteen seventy nine for his book Girdle usher Bach as a knack for interdisciplinary study. He boast the background in math, physics, cognitive science, computer science, and artificial intelligen He composes music. He speaks several languages. He translated Alexander

Pushkin's novel Eugene Oegan. This guy is a polymath. He sees patterns and parallels where the rest of us would never have thought to look, which makes him the perfect guide through the treacherous paradox of self. Hofstadta defines the problem as a rift between two levels of being that the self seems to occupy simultaneously. On the one hand, I is an expression denoting a set of very high abstractions, a life story, a set of tape.

our lived experience. Is one level of the eye the correct real interpret or can both be real at the same time?

Remember it's why we talk about wars in terms of armies instead of each individual soldier, or hurricanes instead of rain drops. Like it or not, we're bound to these higher levels. There's another problem though. If consciousness is at its most basic level, the result of a bunch of atoms randomly bumping into each other, then why does it feel like you're Does that mean?

Like drawing hands, here we have a simple two level paradox. We see an upward shift from two D to three D from drawn to draw, and yet there's a violation in this upwardness since but.

referential proofs. But I was in the lowest level math class in school, so I'm not going to attempt to explain it. The other real life strange loop is you guessed it the self. According to Hofstatter, there are two.

Thus set theory refutes the reductionist idea of a completely logical explication of all reality. Thus you could see why it relates to transcendental type of argument.

Our innate blindness to the world of the tiny forces us to hallucinate a profound schism between the goal lacking material world of balls and sticks and sounds and lights on the one hand, and a goal pervaded abstract world of hopes and beliefs and joys and fears on the other, in which radically different sorts of causality seem to rain.

get worse for you. Right, you can fall into places where you feel like you're back to normal reality, but you're actually just in another version of the hell world. Right movies have done this too, Right, This is kind of a recurring presentation where you come out, you think that you're back to your your neighborhood, you're actually just in like a worse, uh you know, demonic version of

your neighborhood. So really cool stuff. I do expect the back Rooms trailer or the Backrooms film to be really good, and it looks like people are going to explore it further. They're going to get lost, probably what will happen, And usually, I mean, I don't know, maybe not, but usually in horror films, what's going on is that you're the cause of your own prison, and so you have to confront your own trauma to get out of the horror of the back Rooms. But that's my thoughts on the liminal

space in the back Rooms. What do you guys think? Do you think that I'm wrong in my analysis? Do you think that my thoughts, missing my notes, trying to make sure I got up to all the points I wanted to get to to recap. It's erasing the past. There is no past, present, or future in the back rooms. There's just wandering to an infinite bunch of meaninglessness. It's existential dread and corporate nihilism. Corporatism is innately thus in

the presentation of the back rooms, anti human. The liminal space is typically harkening back to the eighties and the nineties, which was the last of the pre virtual, pre Internet era, so we are longing for the human realm. The liminal space is also very much like the Internet in that it doesn't have a lot of meaning. The meaning can very quickly be replaced and forgotten. Nobody remembers the news

stories online from five years ago right. For example, search engines have recently been retooled to where you really can't find old archived stuff anymore, and that was all by design. That's a version of erasing the past so that you only live in the immediate. It's industrial Gothic or instant tutional gothic. It's the updated version of Gothic horror. Even the idea of no clipping into the back rooms shows the gamification of all reality. Reality is now seen like

the virtual, like the like the Internet world. So the simulacra has replaced the simulation, which is the point of Baudriard's whole essays right almost again a kind of a prophetic warning even in films like The Matrix, and the Matrix is ultimately sort of gnostic. It's a neo gnostic presentation, but there's still some truths within the idea of the Matrix, like what if we live so much in the virtual that the real world actually just gets replaced and becomes

the virtual as well. And there was a guy who made a videos. I think he's an Orthodox Seraphim Wirch. I forget his exact name. I'd not seen his stuff before. I'd heard of him before, but I never really watched

his videos. He did a good video on this the other day where he argued that the the virtual world doesn't have to even be a thing that you always live in perpetually, like in some compod because if you spend all of your time in the virtual world online, if you you know, significant amounts of time, and it actually programs you to act more like an algorithm like a total spurg, like a spur of God five thousand,

spurg Lord five thousand. Then you're already almost a virtual person, and you will already reinterpret the external real world as a virtual world. You're going to treat it the same way as the Internet world. So the Internet world already is the simulaca replacing the simulation or the fake world. So you might not even need simulation theory because people are already going to read all of reality as like

the simulation or like the virtual. We mentioned severance, We mentioned the in between upside down, We mentioned vapor wave, synth wave. What if reality itself is breaking and bending? Are we seeing all reality as virtual? So it might not be like some sort of cosmic horror in the sense of you know, Cthulhu, or then the sense of like HP Lovecraft, where metaphysical reality itself begins to break down, although who knows, maybe is maybe at the end of

the world metaphysics itself starts breaking. I don't know, but like what if, what if the bleeding and breaking of reality isn't the actual external world but the way that everybody's internal world and their worldview, their paradigm gets reprogrammed and restructured through the symbiotic loop of the Internet. What if that retooling of the inner world of people then basically just makes them interpret the external world in these mind controlled hellish ways. Do you see what I'm saying?

So you don't have to actually change the world, like well we're gonna, you know, turn on CERN to make it like fuck up metaphysics and reality. Well, all you have to do is like rech tool and re imprint the mind of the humans to misinterpret reality itself. And then you you don't have You don't need a CERN machine that makes time go backwards or some crazy shit, right. You just need dummies to be reprogrammed to interpret reality wrongly.

And that's much more hellish and possible than turning on CERN and making the past be erased or make Donald Trump time trout whatever bullshit people think about CERN. There was a novel about this which I had not heard of, called House of Leaves, And I'll find the guy's video. Let's see who was that guy. I have to think of this guy's video. I should have saved it, but I don't think I remember it too. This is it?

So not really familiar with this guy's content. But I did enjoy his philosophical ruminations on the back Rooms, and so I'll give him some credit because his video inspired me to do this video, so you could get his take on it. Like, he comes off as kind of agnostic, sort of atheist type dude, but he did have some interesting insights. And he referenced this story House of Leaves, which is also very similar to what we're talking about.

We mentioned the Theseus Minotaur labyrinth story. We referenced that extensively in our lengthy analysis of the Shining. The Shining is another presentation of the Labyrinth and the Theseus story. Jack is the minataur that's all self conscious. But so yeah, so that's all of my ideas on it. It's a threshold, but a threshold to where a threshold to perhaps Hell

bleeding into hell world bleeding into our world. Perhaps a threshold of the actual dystopia rolling out, the one that was warned about in all of these nineteen eighties and nineties fiction stories, now manifesting into reality out of the collective unconscious. Right, Perhaps that's really what's going on with the back Rooms. But I want to know what you guys think, Michael says for five dollars nothing, thank you.

Michael in the field two dollars, Yo, you live homie. Yeah, I got to figure out how to get restream to stop automatically turn As soon as I open restream, it automatically starts streaming. I got to figure that out. Y'all want to go to a back rooms. The vibe is definitely horrific. It's a new type of horror like none other's. It's cosmic horror for sure. Squirrel two dollars. The new Mormon space Wife sounds like a modern or modest mouse. It does d jewels. Five dollars. Ooh you fancy now gone.

I'm about to ruie twenty dollars. Thank you so much, Mickey, two dollars for your Indian the HydroD Crew. Zombie Hunter sends a big old fat one hundred dollars. Thank you. He's winning the super chest and the night and Zombie Hunter says, Jay, the people crying about Massy on x or cringe as fuck, especially Zionist billionaires jeff Yass who also funded him. This shows the moral relativism of the libertarians and how deep they are by oligarchs that fund any side or every side. Can you do a Ted

talk on this topic. Yeah. I think it's not surprising because people don't look into who fund stuff, and if you've got powerful oligarchs on the both sides, this is really the tale of politics for forever. Politics is always a who's funding it game. It's not the rhetoric of the politician, it's who's putting the money behind the person.

In fact, we were just watching Peaky Blinders and I'm getting near the end and by the sixth season, as is always the case in mafia stories, right uh Killian Murphy has you know, climbed the ladder to being an international corporate syndicate. And he's involved now in politics, right,

And he's a politician. He's part of the Labor Party, and lo and behold, not only is he part of the Labor Party, he's also on the down low working to undermine the fascists in terms of Ian Moseley, he's also working to steer the IRA right Irish Republican Army. He's also working to steer and control the underworld, and

so he's playing all sides. In fact, there was a great scene reminiscent of the famous scene in The Prisoner the excellent TV show, which also illustrated this point where he's explaining to the IRA girl because she's like, what side are you on? Are you on the communist side? Are you on the socialist Labor party side? Are you on the democracy side? Are you on the organized crime side? Or are you on the fascist side? And he's like,

there's a circle. All of these sides eventually meet. He says, if you go far enough to the right, he says, you'll meet the far left. And he says, I'm in the middle because I am a rising corporate elite and I want to use, when is necessary, all of these ideologies to my own ends. I wonder if I could find that Prisoner's scene that shows that, Oh, I think it's the one that is it the Global Village? I think it's a Global Village. I wonder if I could

get away with planet or will it copyright it? Yes, this is it right here. So now, if you've ever never watched The Prisoner, it's amazingly deep philosophical spy show. There's never been a show like this. It's a spy show that's also like super deep conspiracy and philosophy lore.

Nothing like it ever. It only went one season. But if you don't know, Patrick McGowen plays the former British spy who's taken off to this retirement village for former spies because the spies know too much and they have to send them off to this place in the middle know where they don't actually know where they are. And this is actually real, right, This is based on a

real place. Obviously this is sci fi sort of dystopian version of it, but there really was a place in Scotland where they would would truck these dudes off and kind of keep them locked up in this like hospice place in Scotland, right, So it's based in reality. I read a whole bunch on this and it's it's a significant section of my first book, right because it's very insightful to what's going on, and it's very relevant here watch this.

high tier, high IQ sort of British drama almost. But if you do have the patience and the ability to watch it and the attention span, yes you would watch it. Then you would actually be able to vibe with a lot of my content if you understood what this show is about. Fallacy five dollars show a wig, A little bit of support, y'all. Y'all need to monetize this diva exactly, Scotty to Hotty ten dollars, Jay, do you have the title for the Holy ray Ban song? I actually think

it's up there with Paypiggy and Quasmo Quasimoto. I'll have to put it on YouTube. It's still just on my ex. It doesn't even have a title. Zero dot ten dollars. This is in support a wig xy anthem, Thank you, biscuit. Heead five dollars. Dude evolves more and is more into Smigel as he war was against the church. You talk about Rousselaw Rousselans turning into Smigel anymous at agent tenellars. Yeah, we did that one earlier. Pop Belly got win ten dollars.

Rouslan talks about marketing like he's selling rap CDs outside of a black community college, which he probably has done. Giovanni five dollars. I went to Steakhos the order of Filet Mignon. The waiter came back, I said and said, how was it? I said it was Philly okay, yeah, that people want to debate us and don't even know what p No, it's the words in Curadian ten dollars, Queen of the Wig's Antium. How do I watch more of your requiem streams? Requiem screams, oh, resident evil streams. Uh,

They're the only ones I did are up. So I got to where I was so eager to play the game that I did in livestream. The whole game only live stream like twice, so sort of the cat ten dollars. Many Liminal Space videos also have the two thousands aesthetics. Yeah, okay, whatever, I mean, you know what I'm saying. It doesn't have to Actually it only doesn't have to literally only be the nineties. It can be two thousand and one or two.

That's fine. Yeah, there's a Windows Vista Air aesthetics that okay, I mean, let's not nitpick, dude, but thank you for the super Jed Jamil fifty dollars. Father Hears just talked to David Wood on his stream. I did see that. I thought about doing a live stream on that, but honestly, I just wasn't in the mood to do another prot slop drama stream. I'm just like, after a while it gets old, Like I mean, we did twenty hours, thirty hours of streaming on that last week. I just need

to talk about something else. Turns out Protestants needed exorcism. The chat was so wild. All they did was talk about Orthodoxy charging people for baptism, which was a lot. Well that's all they have so, but I appreciate that super chat. Maybe next week we'll review it or do a streamline. I just my mood is not prot slob. I can't talk about that for freaking forty hours straight, man. I got to take a break. Leontia is ten dollars.

Somebody literally posted girdel Eshra back yesterday or earlier on X. I was reading about it for the first time. Very interesting content, very crazy that you brought. That's providence, dude. Synchronousity is really just providence, basically the same thing. JB. Five dollars. My interest in cognitive philosophy and perception specifically was intrumental, instrumental in getting me to be received into the Orthodox Neptic Tradition's that's great. Yeah, there's a lot

of amazing overlaps and parallels here. In fact, I may just title this the Liminal Space stream. I've been wanting to do that for forever. I don't really want to get into the room lunch it again, but look, I just it's just so it's much more fun to do go off into these other directions. Slow boy. Ten dollars. This is my penance to the Emperor and the biggest deva of Xanthia. You know what, you know what? That's right, let's talk god f dollars. Uncanny psychological horror is very

dominant modern horry. Yes, it's leaned on most in my opinion. Thus you have a win take when it comes to the backgrounds. Thank you, dog, mister fund Zerker. Ten dollars if you enjoy back rooms. Graylock is a shift towards a deeper psychological occult territory. Is that a game or is that a movie? It focuses on the human mind

and it's manifesting a fake reality through occult mind control programs. Well, I did play the New Alan Wake, and a lot of people were critical of the New Allen Wake, and you guys know that we did some funny streams on that. Everybody's cracking up about those. But I beat the game and it ended up being the same type of stuff too. It was fun. It wasn't my favorite game, but it was fun. Epic skeptic ten dollars. Can we get another games room? Yeah, we will, we will. What about Knights

of the Old Republic? I think I have played that, sum I just forgot about it. I got busy playing so many other other things. Tweetbon ten dollars. There's three great books that tie into your analysis about backrooms and this corporate angle amusing ourselves to death. Yes I'm familiar with that technology by a Neil Postman yep, and Technology Understanding Medium. I'm Marshall McLuhan. And then the rest of your supertest is cut off. But yes, I'm familiar with

those books. Tingu ten dollars. I actually just caused a schism from rap church. I started my own church in the back rooms. Well, I guess we do need you might as well set a franchise up everywhere, So set one up in the back rooms. Oh, that would actually be pretty pretty fun. I'm gonna here's a fun use of AI. Get the AI to make a liminal space backrooms version of a church. That would be awesome because it would actually end up being like Rhythm church. Look

just like these fake asked business corporate church. What is Lovecraft's cats name? Two dollars? Can you answer my question? Please? Well, you didn't ask a question, You just sent a two dollars super chat. We ain't got no question. By the way around here, it's called question be Scott five dollars. Goal for the goal that we get near the goal. We're almost at the goal. You guys want to support the stream. Help me hit that goal right now, right we're gonna hit that goal right el. We got like

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about with no one being able to answer. I watched more than fifty seconds. I got about six minutes in, and I do intend to get to this. What time is it? We got some time, y'all want to do this right now? We might as well do this. We got some more time. We could do a reaction to Abby Loop. Grift Master, y'all, I'm the grift Master. I'm the grift master, spitting dope primes, I'm the grift Master. Dude. Rusalan is a grift Master. Can't nobody come close to Ruslan's drifting?

by Nathaniel Hawthorne. I've read Nathaniel Hawthorne. Do come on, like, I don't know who I did English Dog. He's a writer that Flannel O'Connor admired for storytelling and gothic grotesque. Feathertop's message on society intelligence the average person will hunt you. That's a really good idea. I need to do that. Let me write that down there. I also forget, dude,

said Feathertop talking about Roselans Top. Yeah, but have you read Nathaniel Hawthorn's Broccoli Top, Good old Brocley Top Broccoley top ruse On. Yeah, I gotta write it down. I forget, dude, what's it called? What about Liminal Business Church? Du That is limit dude, his his church is Liminal Business Church. That's the thing. It's called feather talk. See a lot of y'all don't know. I've read a bunch of lit.

I was doing a lit grad degree lit and philosophy, you know, the one that I made up that I lied about or whatever. No, I went all the way all but thesis abt H and my thesis was partly written. So I just published in peer review. But you said feather talk will haunt you. I'll check it out and then you let's say, we got gray Locks, a YouTube series. I think I've seen that. Now that you say gray Lot, I'm pretty sure i've seen that. Let me see. Yeah, I think i've seen this.

Do you all know what that one is? That was a pretty good one. I might be getting that mixed up with Greylock. I don't think I've seen this one, but there was one like this. If you guys know which one I'm talking about, mention it in the chat because I can't remember the name of that one. But it was also very popular. It had you know, million views or whatever. But I would like to get into this one if we have the time. Let's see put it on one point five. What's up, y'all? Thank you

guys for the chat. Yeah, that's a great point too. David Lynch also was doing liminal space horror before everybody else, for sure. Yeah, and somebody made a video of other forgotten liminal space horrors. But a lot of them were pretty They were not very good, like B movies that were just almost unwatchable. Since we're on this theme, I'll pull it up. Yeah, this guy's channel, his name is a Nightmare Movies. I've only watched some of his videos. This one that he did was it was It was

pretty good, it was okay. The name of it is some on the movie what's it called? I remember trying to figure out what the dame of the freaking movie was that they forever because it's not listed anyway, you can go find the name of this movie. Like it took me forever to figure out what it was. It was an okay, B movie. It did have some creepy vibes, but it was such a such a B movie it was hard to watch. Uh. And then he did another video, I think, listing a bunch of limon old space horrors,

but they were not very good. Of course, obviously it follows that's a classic that was really good, which which I heard they're making it. It follows too. I think Silent Hill would count. I am a Silent Hill fan. Obviously, my Home Drive obviously, you know, the Shining would count. Lost Highway would count. I guess Blair Wisch Project would count. I don't like found footage horror movies. I think they sucked. They're really annoying to me. But I will say that

the first one was pretty good. Twin Peaks Firewak with me. Definitely liminal horror. Pulse was pretty good. Pulse was a better than I expected. And they they even did a remake with Kristen Bell, which is not as good, but it was okay. It was definitely liminal space horror. Cube, but I don't think I've ever actually watched Cube. I've heard it's good, but I don't think I've ever got around to it. Dim Land, I don't know what dim Land is. I never heard of that one. That might

be cool. I did think Vivarium was good. For some reason, we missed it. We never did a deep analysis of it. I thought it was good. It was a good liminal space horror, cosmic horrors. Of course, we've done Dark City many times. It's in Esterklawoo three. Now. Beyond the Black Rainbow definitely good. We did that. We covered that long time ago, and pretty pretty much all of the Greek just went blank on the Greek dude's name Mandy, right, obviously Mandy was he does this not have Mandy in

the list? I mean, Mandy is better than Beyond Black Rainbow. Surely Mandy's in here. They didn't put Mandy. Know well, they missed They missed one of the those what's this one? Oh erink? Honestly, it looked too creepy for me to watch, Like something about being stuck in the low res for the entire movie was just a little much. I just couldn't do it. I can't believe they didn't put Mandy on here. Man, he's like the most that's like the

pinnacle of all of these. I apologize I'm not being able to figure out the name of this movie, but this guy did. I think he intentionally didn't put the name of it there so that you would like hunt around and click on the video and figure out what it is, which is pretty smart actually. But what do you guys think is the best liminal horror film? I mean, definitely probably do so many of David Lynch's things are

going to be up there. I mean it follows as a classic, but I probably, I want to say probably David Lynch, it follows, and Mandy would have to be have to be the best. What do you guys think what movie sucked? Yeah? I like Colorado Space. I mean Mandy was a lot better than color Out of Space though, just overall as a film. I mean, Mandy is like and there's some really intense parts that are hard to watch. But I mean that movie is just that movie blew my mind dude out in the mouth of madness. Yeah,

that's that's cosmic horror. I don't know if it's liminal. It could be it's kind of liminal space. I like the triangle, I like the void. Aren't they making a part two? If it follows? Am I right about that? By the way, I have to say, uh, while we're on the on the movie tip there will be one and immediately it's like, what are you doing this?

pee Wee's Great Adventures. It's definitely trippy at times. It's interesting too that along with right the back rooms vibe, in the liminal space horror vibe, that that's kind of taking over horror. Now, that is interesting. I didn't even think about that because they started trying to make horror woke, right, and that's it doesn't work. It bombs. People don't want that. So it makes sense that this would be like the next you know, trend within horror for sure, mimics that's

not liminal space horror. What are you talking about? Y'all? Just playing now hell Raiser again. I don't know if hell Raiser really makes it. I mean, I think liminal Space just has to be like creepy, empty, corporate weird. You know it's David Lynch's fan turning in a room with just a lamp and a recliner, you know what I mean? Oh, I forgot you guys. Yes, I have to mention. Uh, we will be doing as above so below.

And that was actually way better than I expected. Again, I absolutely hate found footage horror movies, and that's why I didn't want to watch as above so below. It was actually really good. And Jamie and I are going to be doing as above so below the Ritual and we're revisiting Eyes Wide Shut and the Ninth Gate after ten years. So let's do a little bit of this because a lot of people were talking about this now and I started it and didn't get to finish. I got distracted. So let's check this out.

offered at deals that seemed impossible. For example, they list fuels apply among their offerings, but how are they actually getting the fuel and providing it at fifty to ninety percent off and we're in the country or even the world are they offering it? It just doesn't seem realistic. What they're saying sounds fine on the surface, by the.

could want that's flying related with such exorbitant deals. Admittedly, though this is easy enough to ignore and playoff is an ineffective or even deceitful advertisement, But there was something else that was much harder to ignore about these commercials, with that being the deal attendants themselves.

oh it's They're like, oh, yep, that's it. Now. Every now and then I'm wrong, because that's why the only movies I like nowadays are the ones that can actually trip me up, which is it's got to be like some crazy shit, right, like, oh, that was actually a synthoid from another dimension. It wasn't that guy, right. Otherwise, like I'm going to figure out the movie right away.

got me. This is the best example of this. I'd never seen Usual Suspects, right, And within the first minute or two minutes of the movie, I knew it was Kevin Spacey because in the shadow, the way that he held the cigar is the gate and the stance that Kevin Spacey has, It's Kevin Spacey movie ruined within two minutes right away, because this shows you the shadow of the villain in the first two minutes, like that's obviously Kevin space you could tell the way stance.

look professional, they were failing miserably. And it wasn't only the outfits that had a strength.

I don't know, but I mean, it's got to be more than just you know, three oh four's right, that's not that's exists since the beginning.

Despite saying a lot, the lack of details made it entirely and ineffective, like the business itself was an afterthought, with the focus instead being on these women. In fact, even in the channel's description, they simply wrote meet avy Loop deal Attendants. This is the official page for a brand new company trying to promote it services, and that's

all they had to say. That's how they marketed their entire company, making some wonder what was actually the role of these deal attendants and what was actually the purpose of avul Loop. The first and most likely theory at this point is that Avyloop was an overambitious company that used over sexualized marketing to build intrigue around its brand at a time when others were doing the same thing to great success. Maybe they weren't even off the ground.

was their service. The theory goes that Ovyloop was affront for pornography or even prostitution, poorly hidden under the guise of this fake aeronautics company. This would explain the prominence of these deal attendants, as they themselves may have been the actresses or prostitutes, and it also explains the lack of information about the company itself as the reason their deals and services don't seem to make any sense.

almost demand that you dig deeper. Well, if this is the case, then surely visiting their website would help put this mystery to ben.

that attempted to describe the service more in depth. There they mentioned that the primary goal of ovy loop was safety, as they believe that making training and other aeronautic services more accessible could in turn, what.

and pilot vacations, among many other things. Basically, anything even remotely related to flying they sold it, at least claim to, and they consisted that they did so cheaper than anywhere else by using collective bargaining, a process that they would go into greater detail about. Basically, Abyloop acts as a third party partnering with aviation businesses to promote unique deals on their sites. Each of these deals as a quote, I mean.

Avyloup was the middleman, which could explain how they managed to offer such impressive deals in such diverse services, though again this is just what they were saying begging the question. Was anything actually being sold on pavylup dot com. Well, there actually was. The deals were sorted by general locations, and most consisted of flying lessons, museum trips, or even temporary tattoos. However, there was something unusual about these lips.

these ads would look like. Though calling them professional is extremely generous, and I can't imagine any companies actually wanting to use the service, and given that these are the only videos that they shared, I don't think many, if any,

actually did extremely sexual in nature. They were meant to mimic pilot stripes and be put on your shirtless shoulders with a package reading when a uniform just won't do, and the description hadding all sorts of innuendos appears so fake, but that doesn't inherently mean that they were actually involved

in pornography or prostitution. I mean, despite all these innu windos, there is no direct mention of the sale of sex anywhere on the website from what I could see, And unfortunately, much of the website is lost of time, as in twenty sixteen in the site would go down, replaced by another random URL, making it impossible to know what this platform was actually like for those who signed up for it. What were they actually being offered, what were they discussing

amongst themselves, and what happened on these video calls. It's all unknown, as what I've shown is pretty much all I was able to salvage from the way back.

interest had shifted to a different kind of runway. She became obsessed with flying and had a natural talent for it too, quickly rising through the ranks and gaining certifications faster than most others could at that age.

success that she started Avi Loop. It clearly wasn't meant to be something.

after becoming an adult, she also became Epstein's accomplice. When Epstein was first investigated by all Deny back in the two thousands, many of his victims came forward and claimed that Nadio was not only present for their use, but she was a willing participant there too, satisfy Epstein's criminal sexual desires by on occasion, directly participating as a US

Prussian of the minor girls. Now, Epstein was eventual given a sweetheart deal for these crimes in two thousand and eight, which led to him serving just thirteen months in prison, and as part of that deal, Na he was given complete immunity, meaning she never.

with a brand new role. She became one of Epstein's pilots, taking victims and perpetrators alike to and from the island on the plane they dubbed the Lolita Express, what happened on the.

do phronsie wine in back room communion. Yes, correct, that's corporate fake one fallacy five dollars. That could actually be a good idea for a short film. You find a church in the back room. It's a burst of beauty in the nightmare. That would be weird. D Jewels ten dollars, Jay Dizzel. Watch Under the Banner of Heaven. A Mormon detective investigates an unalive Mormon woman and her child that are mixed up in FDLS cult. Is that a documentary or a movie? What's it called Banner of Heaven?

since you're new around here, but welcome, Fernando. So for ten dollars. Besides Pasco, what's your favorite service Sunday or Saint Gregory Palamas in Lent, he says Dormian Vesper's goat minus Nativity Dormion, I like the trim of Orthodoxy too, Peter White five dollars. It's quite sus that the Protestant grifters know more about Islam than they do about Christianity. Ooh, that's a great point, real quick, while I'm while I'm on the subject, and shout out to some of my

friends for hitting me to this point. I didn't realize if someone believed what might be going on. And now I think this makes perfect sense. So the question is what made Rouselan suddenly so fussy about all of this? Right, Because Rouselan himself admits that he had a change of mind in the last month, right, and that's what spurned the Catechumen being pitted against the you know, Gavin Ortland and Trent Horn. But what exactly caused the change in

Ruslan's mind to be going in this direction? And I think we figured it out. So it turns out that every time that he's had Orthodox people on, and that includes he's had me, he said Neil and Jonathan Page, he said, Father Desiah, He's had Father Peter hears On. He's not realized until after having all of us on, that we're not an ecumenist church. Okay, I don't think Rouzlan originally thought that. His thought was, how can I increase my market reach. Oh, here's this whole group of orthos.

I'll reach out to them and then they'll be part of my audience as well. So he's thinking about it as we all know as a marketer. Right. Well, he starts having all the orthos on, and he realizes that they don't teach a humanist, lowest common denominator Christianity. They don't teach mere Christianity. So then he realized that, wait a minute, their exclusivity claims are not going to work

with my marketing approach. But that's not all. He realized that when you go to the comments of the videos with the Orthodox, all of the comments are how they're becoming Orthodox. Let's look at these comments. It's about becoming This is the best line in this video. I'm being baptized in Orthodox Church next month. I left Protestantism one thousand and three. Inner likes Orthodox is so deep. I'm becoming Orthodox. I'm former Presbyterian becoming Orthodox. I'm becoming Orthodox

like the first fifty comments are about becoming Orthodox. I would say, right, I converted Orthodoxy. I love it. I just became a catechumen Right. Orthodoxy has the best misunderstanding. Greetings, I'm a Greek Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Right. Rouslan realized that the comments are not amenable to what he wants. The comments are about Orthodoxy. Let's see if if it's the same on Rouselm with Father Trenham.

So if you're come into the church, you're gonna see hundreds of thousands. I'm a new Orthodox convert. I'm fifty years old. I'm on my way to Orthodoxy out of atheism. I'm becoming Orthodox. More and more people are coming to Orthodoxy. These are the top comments. I was Protestant, now I'm Orthodox. So I think my thesis now. And this is a

shout out to my friends who hit me. To this point, Rouselan realized all the times that he bought brought the Orthodox people on, and they went against his dumb assumption that we all would say, you know, an acumenist yed bro, we all got to just get along, dude, it's all the same church. He realized, Oh, they don't believe that and even their top dudes that I bring on don't believe that, and they don't support my marketing goals. That is why he has now decided that all the Orthos

are actually bad. I've also been told from some inside sources that these Goobers are all coordinating. They have either telegram or discord groups, and all the Goobers are working together now to fight the Orthodox. Now wait a minute.

If you are an Acumenist and a Lowest Common Denominator believer, then you have to believe that Orthodoxy is also part of the Lowest Common Denominator church, right, Because they're saying you can go to the Messianic Synagogue, right, Well, if the Messianic Synagogue counts in their lcdview, obviously Orthodoxy counts. So even if Orthodoxy is exclusivist, it shouldn't matter to them, right.

But then we start to realize the fact that it does matter to them shows that they are actually exclusivists themselves. So we have figured we have solved the mystery. Rouselan realizes that the comments are all pro Orthodox, So that's why he had to switch away from having Orthodox people come on to Christian TMZ. Literally his whole channel is Christian TMZ. Rousselan quit having Orthodox people on. Did you notice that after who is al? I don't know who The last one was. It was either me or maybe

I don't know. No, it wasn't Pagoe. And by the way, I don't count the This dude is Orthodox, right, So Rouselan is still presenting the Orientals as if they're Orthodox, and they're not, so I don't count that dude. Instead, what he's done is his fake panel of Orthodox versus. Notice this. Remember it wasn't a debate, according to Ruslan, and now he's got it tagged as versus, so we believe. I thought it wasn't a debate though, but now it's

Klok versus Orthodox versus Protestant. That's adversarial language Rusalan. So notice this actually shows that the truth is out and Rouselan actually was lying it was a debate because now he's got the adversarial language up Catholic versus Orthodox versus Protestant. So he intentionally put a categ cumin up. Everybody's said, why are you putting catechumens against seasoned debaters. He said,

it wasn't a debate. It wasn't debate. It wasn't adversarial relationship versus is adversarial, dummy, And originally it said debate and he blamed it on his employees. Remember that. So again, Ruslan is just a total liar and he's a total marketing grifter to be fair, or Rusland just had an Orthodox priest on. No, that dude is not an Orthodox priest. You're talking about this deacon. This deacon is an Oriental.

He's a schismatic and Rouslan intentionally is putting the Orientals on because he thinks he's so Dummi thinks that because there's people who claim to be Orthodox, that that's a proof against Orthodoxy's exclusivity. This is how it's low tier. He is. That dude is not Orthodox. That's the schismatic deacon that confronted Philip Nectel knucklehead or whatever. Otherwise, I mean, Rouslan is basically a Christian. It's just like drama. So

he had Neil and Pajoe on two years ago. He's still doing these, by the way, watch our uh we clip this. We clipped this, by the way into a full sort of documentary two hour documentary thing documenting his lives and bull crap. So here is the Downfall of rouslan video if you want the full clipped version of it. But yeah, that's what's going on. So now we know the mysteries of Ruslan Peter No Cameron, ten dollars rousselin thinking about how much church plants he could set up

in the back rooms? How do I monetize these backrooms? By the way, here's the full avy loop video. Did I need to watch anything anything else in the video or did I get basically the I knew within like a minute, dude, I knew that's what it was. I'm a good detective, dude. Come on, now, I'm the movie detective. Bro. Have they made an actual good back rooms video game? Yet?

That seems like it would be interesting. I know there's a bunch of I saw a bunch of like ten dollars ones on PlayStation five shop, but they look crappy. So is there any of them that are actually good? I don't know. I like how this one's like the portal to the back rooms like in Stranger Things, right, and you go in there and it's the first contact, And what's up with everybody ripping them off? To like everybody?

Just I mean, you can do your own versions of it, obviously, but like there's like a million different channels that did the exact same thing that he did. The pool rooms. I saw the pool rooms? Is that actually fun? I mean, don't you just run around? You don't really it's cool? Okay, I'll check out that one. I almost played that one. I don't know if it was any good or not.

So you're saying Ruseline, Yeah, I think heres was the most recent orthodox person Rousalin had on Ooh, what's creeping me out?

has several videos on liminal spaces. I didn't know that well thing had already closed out the video. What does he say about that? Dang, he's got a bunch of videos. Alright, let's see, did y'all like my philosophical uh breakdown? Oh? Okay, he does have a bunch hair. Let's say what he says.

That's now your new home. And if it sounds scary, maybe you'll take comfort in knowing that at least you won't be alone. To four chan, that caught the attention of many, the picture was of what we now know as the back rooms. Something about it, the emptiness, the tone just gave people bad vibes and summed up the photo was incredibly unsettling. Along with a photo, a caption was added.

It looks really neat, I'll say, if I can dig it up for you guys.

But and the reason I think that is because a lot of my dreams, especially when they're recurring dreams, there's like areas and places that you can return to and then explore new areas past those areas, right, kind of like in an open world video game when the map's gray and then you go into the new area and

you've discovered new areas. My dreams are that way. So I think that there's probably something to the inner world actually structured that way, and that's why it resonates with what people see in the back rooms.

off of it. But going back to glitches and our reality, it is said that on occasion, objects within our world will no clip. This is something that happens often in video games where part of the map becomes no clipped and you bump into it, you go right through it, and you sometimes end up falling right off the map. There your player is stuck still inside the game, but in an endless void beneath the map. In the real world, people believe that some objects can become no coals.

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two movie is. I will say though, that the new Resident Evil looks very fascinating. This will be the first time that perhaps the critics are going to like a Resident Evil movie. I mean, I'm a fan, just kind of a guilty pleasure. I like all the Resident Evil movies, but the new one is uh, the whitest kid, you know, guy that did weapons is doing it, and it actually looks like it's going to be like it might actually be a critically acclaimed horror movie. It looks it looks

pretty good. I'd to say, the Zach Gregor guy. So I am looking forward to the new Resident Evil. All right, I gotta get these super chests going here because I'm starting to melt down and get mush minded. Josiah Mandy is the best Nick Cage film? Oh? Good? Question? Is that the best Nick Cage Maybe probably some subjectivity is going to come into that one, because it's hard to say, but it's definitely up there. It's definitely up there. I mean Bringing Out the Dead is pretty good too, though,

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good point. Now, for whatever reason, I have to brag because it didn't get promoted in the algorithm. But we've done podcasts with Andre Tarkowski's son, so I've on Stalker at a in depth level and everybody forgets this and nobody watched it when it should be like of freaking zillion views, and we only got thirteen thousand views. So here's me with father Vladimir. We do an entire two hour mini documentary almost with Andre Tarkowski Junior on Stalker. Hello,

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false teaching. It could contributes to that, absolutely, especially if they're Calvinists, right, I mean a lot of Protestants are not very few Protestants are actually five point Calvinists in the total. But for the ones that are, that's probably why they don't. They don't. But I don't. I mean, Ruslan's not a Calvinist. I don't think he has any of those types of views. DM five hundred RSDs? What's up?

impressing me. He's got good stuff here, Oh to yakoub let's see. Oh shit, do look at this? Rall? Oh macas all right, this looks fun. I'll give it to you guys in the chat, but I don't want to ding the copyright. This is a fire stream, son. I think we might get a lot of views on this because of the back rooms, so I don't want to. I don't want to mess up the algo if I play copyright music. Yeah, get out of here. You are here. You haters in the Chat are henceforth banished from the

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That sounds familiar. Oh, this is the new one. I want to see this. This one actually does look good. Yes, is it out? Can you watch this now? Is it in the in the theaters or what? Yeah? Thank you? I do want to do this, and yeah, it will probably be worth analysis. They look good enough for analysis for sure. Alter boyd ten dollars. I remember Beta max versus VHS fights when I was a kid. Yeah, we used to when I was in California. We would. My dad was kind of a cheapo, so he would still

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about three or four and they're a blast. So yeah, we need to do more of that for sure, for show. For show, I'll make a note to do another spooky stream. Dude, wells this one count of as I put a spooky stream, like I said, it was in the backgrounds for two hours. That was spooky as hell. Spooky stream right here. Y'all want spooky streams, listen. If y'all request spooky streams, you gotta come do it, though, you got y'all gotta be here. I don't want to do a spooky stream for five

hundred people. Y'all got to come show up. J money five dollars? Are you gonna switch to a PC? Jim Bob says you're boomer. I can't do it. I'm too boomer. I'm sorry. You should get FDA and a walkie talkie, I would actually be ironic and with hipster, I'll go full hipster and do an interview on a walkie talkie. That actually sounds pretty cool. I could trip out my

guests that I'm interviewing my big guests this weekend. What if I What if I tripped her out and I was like, now we're doing this interview via a walkie talkie. She'd be like, what yo. She'd be like, make sense of that. I'm like, there ain't no sense to it. That's why we're doing it. You in the back rooms, guys, remember, got to show a sponsor, which is chalk dot com c h o q dot com best solentation on the net. Head over to chalk dot com c h o q

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in that one, spring Breakers. This was old school too. Look This is Jay and Tristana Candy when I was looking weird and puffy from carbs dude, before Tristan convinced me of his diet cult. Yo, y'all check that out. We there, Benjamin five dollars. Look up Steve Greg He in a slouch. I didn't say he was a slouch. I said, does he have one hundred subscribers? He's debated James White, Aiken and Staples. I don't know, we'll see.

I've already planned out like ten debates, dude, well not ten, like five, but I'm willing to bet that some of those people won't show up. JP at Dog five dollars. Jay ordered your book. I'm eager to get into it. How long does it usually take? Well, if you order the Red Book, they're supposed to be here in the next few days, so that's probably what you're waiting on. All right, Thank you guys so much. Y'all been a lot of fun tonight. Josha's for two dollars. This is

a win back room stream. Do you have a patron saint? Yes, Daniel, Prophet Daniel is my patron saint. I love these kinds of streams. I can't do this theology nerd shit every night, isn't crazy? Jay Long Finals, do you think Don young Don is kind of slow because he got his thing chopped? Well, I don't know if he's He seems impressionable because they easily convinced him, so he seems at least very impressionable.

But I don't know young Don, so I can't say what all's going on other than like if you're convinced and people to get circumcised. I mean, they don't know nothing about the New Testament, like they haven't read the Book of i exe Galatians, Hebrews. I mean, guys, thank you so much. If you would hit like a share, tell me uh more. Back rooms