You are listening to a Halloween special from Jay of the Dead's New Horror Movies. Welcome to Jay of the Dead's New Horror Movies, the podcasts where we give our top 10 lists anywhere within 10 years of the year that we're actually talking about. My name is Ron Martin, today I'm here with the most popular horror banger, Mr. Dave Zee. What? Maybe I'm somebody's friend.
Listen, in our text message, I just keep hearing in our text chat, I give you a hearing how you're everyone's favorite horror banger. Oh, wow. Okay, I'll accept that. That's why they pair me with you because they figure people are going to listen to this one because of you and then all the slip mine in there. Well, if you're talking about slipping it in there, you should go first and yours is going to be bigger than mine because I can't remember the movies, man.
There are so many sexual and new windows in that sentence you just said, Dave. I know, that's what I'm here for. Dave, maybe that's why I'm talking about this. That's why you're the most popular all the sexual ways. What we should mention today, we're talking about our top 10 films of 2023. Now listen, by the time you're listening to this, I get it.
It's October. Most of the Halloween stuff probably is gone from the stores and it has been replaced with Christmas stuff at this point and you're like, what the hell? Why are they talking about 2023? Well, let me tell you this. We still haven't gotten through our 2022 list yet. So this be happy that it's coming out, you know, within the year after 2023. Dave's an old product. He's probably done this list 14 times on 13 different podcasts.
And just for reference, Dave watches, I think every single horror movie that comes out ever. No, I'm dude, I'm small time. Don't even I watched 80 2023's. I know people now because people are talking about their numbers now. I know people that have watched over 200 movies from 2024. So I'm small. There were 200 movies in 2024 already. Sure. There's a lot. Dude, when you say you've watched 80 2023 movies, we're talking about major releases. Correct.
We're talking about straight to streaming, but also like kind of hyped up. We're talking about independent films that went straight to streaming that you've never heard of. But are you also talking about like really low budget stuff that you really put probably only previously see at like a horror convention or something? No, I typically don't watch really low budget stuff that way.
I mean, I watch indie film, but I don't watch like typically I don't watch like the shot on video stuff or you know, um, and you know my stuff. I get shot on video stuff. A lot of people do and I'm not against it. It's just that my cup of tea and it's just like it's like the subject matter most of the time is more on the comedic side. And yeah, you're not really my coach. Yeah, you hate fun. I remember now. I might have some fun movies.
You and Jay hate fun, but also it should be noted though, you do watch every slash or that comes out correct. Not every slasher. There's like a bunch of ones that pop up on to be that are like I don't even give them a sniff like I'll look at it for a second, but no, I don't watch every slasher. No, I just like try to have I ever seen rubber back in the day I have. I didn't see it once just because of the gimmick. You know, that's the one I always see on to me is rubber. I've never watched it.
Oh, was it? I think I checked it out back. I don't know, 2015 or 16. Is that kind of a slasher? You can get it. I didn't pop it didn't pop into my mind when I was putting together my my my slasher list for this year. I don't know. That's something to think about except it's a tire. It could be a slasher. I don't remember a lot about it. So that's the tire get slashed. Huh? Oh, that's good. Yeah. We're going to go back and forth here. We'll go. Do you want to go first?
You'll make it go first number 10 number 10. Um, how do you go? You just said, how do you want to do? I don't care. Go first. That's fine. You just said number 10. You may as well kick off. I'm curious. I'm really curious is because knowing your taste. I'm more it's easy for me to pick what won't make your list than what will. That's how I feel. So that's why I don't know like I know. Yeah. What I have to do is, yeah, all you have to do is be in the group chat. You know, the ones I don't like.
Yeah. I'm not, you know, I'm very vocal about that. And we reviewed these movies over the course of the past year. So we've been on the scene recordings. I know how you feel about some of them already. So it's like, okay, that's not going to be on the list and that's not. I remember that. But that's why it's tough. I agree with this day because I think that your number one should be the main events. Oh, my number one. Okay. That's the semi main events.
Okay. But the opening match, the opening match number 10 here. So I have like, listen, I don't know there was 10 movies I really loved in 2023. But I didn't want to pull the same thing I did in 2022 and now make a tenth pick. Because I feel like I don't want to overuse that gimmick. So there's like four or five movies that are okay. They're fine. I don't know if they belong at the top 10 list. So of the five or so that I had listed here, stuff like, you know, five nights at Freddy's.
It's a wonderful knife. That kind of stuff. I picked what was the my favorite of them only because it's personal to me because of the subject matter and that was the haunted mansion. It's not a great film. It's an okay film. But I really enjoy the attraction at Disney World and I enjoyed the references to the attraction in the movie and I enjoyed the cast, even though they were pretty much just acting like themselves loose on the haunted mansion. The script wasn't great.
But of all the movies that could have been in the mix the tenth. I just picked that one because it I enjoyed that attraction and it's in the middle most to me of all of them of all of them. That's probably the one I might rewatch. Let's put it that way. That makes any sense. 100%. Wow. Here's the thing. I still have not seen that movie and I am also a huge fan of the haunted mansion. It's my favorite ride ever. Every time I go to any Disney attraction and I'm talking since the 80s.
Yeah. I go on that thing like five times. It's my, yeah, love it. I literally just wrote it last weekend. Really? The Disney World version. This, the movie is based on the Disney Land version though there are, there are some nods to the Disney World version in the movie. You see I don't even know the difference between the world and the land version when you just say it that way.
Well, let me give you a quick theme park history lesson here real quick since I am both a theme park person and a history person. So the Disney Land, okay. The ride takes place is set in New Orleans square. So the theme is like New Orleans plantation and that's kind of the, and the movie takes place in New Orleans and that's the house they're using in the movie in the Disney World version.
The haunted mansion is set in Liberty Square, which is themed to colonial America and that particular area of the park, not only as you walk through it does it go further into the timeline, but it also goes further into the country. So where it's at where the haunted mansion is at would be colonial upstate New York and that's the architectural style that that house has in Disney World. Okay. So what's the cosmetics? It's the outside. It's nothing in the ride itself, right?
The Disney World version of the ride has a couple of extra scenes because it's bigger. But for the most part, they're pretty very similar. Okay. See, I can live with that. I thought maybe there was something major that happened at one and not the other that I wasn't aware of. I'm like, hmm. I'll tell you this. Dave, the movie includes some lore yet to be a real, you have to, you have to have dived really deep into the haunted mansion lore to know this.
But it includes some lore that was once put forth for the haunted mansion attraction when it was first being conceived, but did not make it into the actual ride is in the mood. So there's some cool stuff in there. There's enough to get a good job. I went to the good job, but it's enough to be my number 10. Well, I'm going to have to watch it. I watched the other one with, eventually I watched that Eddie Murphy one, like maybe only three years ago.
And I actually like it more than I thought I was going to. Yeah, I would. Okay. You know what? I don't hate the Eddie Murphy one. I would say this one's probably on par with that one. And who's in this movie? Oh, man. Everybody's in this movie. Shoot. Let me bring up a cast. So it's kind of like one of those like crazy cast movies with a bunch of cameos of people playing themselves. Take it. Well, the key stand. It's like a gimmick. The key stand field is the main character. And Rosario Dawson.
They were the main characters. And like they ended the video and Tiffany had ish and Owen Wilson kind of all this. They play different characters. They kind of all, but they're all kind of this themselves in the movie, but they have characters. Okay. Like we know the writer Jared Leto has some cameos and Jamie Lee Curtis plays Madame Leota. Oh, so in two movies now, Madame Leota, one of my favorite characters from the haunted mansion has been played by Jennifer Tilly and Jamie Lee Curtis.
Not too bad. That's cool. Yeah. Very cool. Shoot. Well, I was sold as soon as you said Rosario Dawson. I'm like, okay, I'll watch it. That's all I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's the main. I think she's the man. Her and her and Lucky Stanford are the main characters. And they do find, you know, everybody does find. It's just the script isn't very good. I can't really tell who the movie is written for. I'm like, I told Jay and my, we did a mini review of this over the summer.
If I was 12, this would be my favorite movie. Fair enough. I'm quite a bit older than 12 these days. Right on. Oh, that's cool. Well, I'll definitely check it out. And that's one that I can watch with the family. So, yeah, absolutely. It's fun. Cool. Okay. My number 10 is a slasher, actually. Believe it or not. This one is called Candy Land. Did you see this one? I did not, but I heard about it. Okay. I think we did talk about it on this podcast.
So, anyway, Candy Land is, it's about these people that are, they're lot lizards. They are like, uh, prostitutes that hang out at these, uh, the truck stops. And there's a hotel connected. And everybody's communicating the truckers and this and that. And this woman runs the hotel and the lot and whatnot. And the main characters are like these four girls. And there's one guy, you know, young 20 somethings just doing their thing, turning tricks.
They're actually, um, they're very good friends to each other. They're, they're kind of fun. But at one point, a bus drives by and it's a lot of religious folks. And they're just kind of like, you know, saying you could be saved and et cetera, and, you know, trying to sell religion to them. And there was this one girl who was just looking at them and she was part of the religious cult. And then shortly after that, like less than a week later, she shows up.
And she has been like, either she has laughter. She's been excommunicated, but she has had a falling out with her religious brethren. And she stuck there and she befriends them. And they actually end up turning her into into a sex worker like them. A funny thing is, yeah, shortly after she shows up, she starts getting murders, you know, and that is typical. It's that typical slasher stuff.
It's not like a traditional slasher, but it's just almost like matter of fact, like people are dropping in and then you'll, you'll see them killed. But there's a really unexpected turn of events with a couple characters, which I like. And aside from the fact that one or two things, if you use too much reasoning, you kind of have to say, I don't know, I think that, you know, that one, they wouldn't have got away with it. They probably would have been seen things like that.
But those are just how are they killed scenes? They're good. They're good. They're good. They're not great, but they're good. They're marvell because they're different. And there's a certain weapon that you use at one point, which is actually pretty cool. And in the final act, we get a lot of mayhem and it goes to a different place. We get some reveals and it's not something that, you know, everyone watching is going to be completely shocked by, but it works really well.
And Olivia LeCardy is in it. And she plays the role of the girl that left her religious group. And she is very good. She was in that movie. She was in soft and quiet also the year before, which was the movie that I was on my top, I want to say 22, but it could have been 21. Either way, she does a real good job again in this movie. And so she's a highlight once again. But yeah, that's Candy Land. It takes place in 1996 too. And it actually takes place during Christmas time.
So it has a couple extra little gimmicks to it. But there's different characters. There's some, most of them you're rooting for, there's this one cop and he has a liking of the one boy that works there and their relationship is kind of weird. And so there's different little things going on. And again, you have pretty girls too so that you can never go wrong there, but it wraps up very nicely. So that's Candy Land. So the title is misleading. Nothing happens. Melossus Swamp or peppermint forest.
Nope. No, it's all different. Candy. That's interesting though, because I've never seen a movie based around Lotlessards before. I think you probably like the movie to be honest. It's an easy flick to watch. Yeah, sounds like stories, right? Was this a streaming or was it a DVD pickup or? No, this was streaming. I don't even know if it has a release to be honest. But yeah, it's a streaming one. I don't know where it was streaming. It just may have been a rental type thing.
For listeners, if you want to watch Candy Land, just type it into your search engine on your Roku, you'll find it. There you go. Right now. We're going to move on to number nine. My number nine was a major theatrical release as was number 10, I guess. But my number nine was knock at the cap and.
And I originally, if I had made this list right after I watched that movie, it probably would not have made the list, but it ended up making the list at number nine because it kind of stuck with me for a while. And sometimes you need that extra time to really digest the movie. And as most of our listeners probably know, probably you know, Dave as well. This was an M night shimelon movie that was based on a book by Paul Tremblay.
And the hilarious thing about this movie to me is, so it starts Dave Patista and like not a superhero or action star role, like he's just a school teacher. And right, those are you who may not know Dave, but he's just a former professional wrestler. And he is just so much bigger than everybody else in the movie. Right. And there's like, it's never brought up. It's not a plot point or anything. It's just amazing to me.
He's standing next to like, for example, like Rupert Grint from the Harry Potter series, right? 10 times as big as that guys. That was hilarious. But I really like, I like to set up in this movie. I like the ambiguity until the end. The twist here is that there is no twist. And in night shimelon just literally shows you the ending were the book.
The ending in the book was way more ambiguous as to whether or not the cult then invades this cabin with the gay couple and their adopted daughter, whether or not what the cult was saying was actually true or not. In the book, it's left up to the reader in the movie. I'm not sure. And it makes it quite clear that if the ending didn't happen the way that it happened, and I want to spoil anything here for people who may not have seen it, right? Things would have been different.
So I don't really love that part of the film. And that's kind of why it's further down on the list. But I thought the acting was all I thought the premise is kind of cool. And I really like the fact that it's a gay couple that has to make this decision to basically save the world, the world that has constantly looked down upon them because of their relationship. Right on. Yeah. I never thought about that aspect of it that they have to see a world like that. But you're right.
I mean, they all but show us that. They show example of the things. They show a lot of examples where they were harassed. Yeah, you know, because of their sexual orientation. Right. It's a great movie. And I love the ending. Actually, that's one of the things that I'm big on certain type of endings that I'm glad it wasn't ambiguous. I'm glad we got to see the ending. The ending. That ending. I wish it had been ambiguous. Like the ending like what the choices that were made, I agree with that.
And I'm glad that those choices were made. I would have liked it to been up to the viewer whether or not those choices meant anything. Yeah. Now I understand that. I just that is like that kind of ending. It was similar to a movie that I really enjoyed. Another 2022, I think. What the heck was that movie? Well, it was in my top 10, the righteous. I think that was that one was called that was a real good one. But that was another year. But yeah, this movie here, honestly, this was my number 11.
So this was the runner up. So you may have this given a spoiler for your top 10 list of 2022 on your top 10 list for 2023. Oh, you're right. I made it. That's right. There's still being released. I don't know what number it was. Oh boy. Oh, well, there we go. There we go. All right, Dave. I enjoyed it. And I will say one more thing about that movie for a time. It was my number one of the year of 2023. And a lot of years, but not pretty early in the year.
Yes. Yeah. I've watched it twice since and it didn't have the same impact. I still think it's a great movie. It didn't have the same impact as the initial did. And that happens a lot of time. That's interesting because I've only seen it the one time. Ah, there you go. Well, that's just me. A lot of things change. But anyway, number nine. No, no, especially movies like this, especially movies like this change knowing the ending. Sometimes for the better. Right.
And the movie like get out or us any Jordan, Peel movie usually rewatches make it better. But there are also times when rewatches and knowing the ending make it not as enjoyable to ride, not as enjoyable. Yeah, sometimes that does happen. I'm with you. And I don't think there's any particular reason why it went down a little bit for me. I just think that the impact of the first time just hit that way. And then you saw better films. I mean, this was released early February.
So it was a lot of a lot of your left. Yeah. Okay, number nine. This was also at the theaters. And it's not also what your last one was. And it's another slasher Thanksgiving Eli Roth. This is one that, you know, a lot of people enjoyed this movie. This was a nice combination of a 80s and a 90s slasher done these days. And it has what you want. It's a nice, so many times with slasers. It's a real simple formula. I'm surprised we don't have as many great slasers as we do because we do have them.
But it just seems so many times slasers are made and they just don't get it. I'm like, it's a real simple solution. It's a simple, you know, to create it. It really is. But it just seems like people don't do it. But this gives you what you want. You got a good story. You got characters that you like. Some that you don't like. You have a slasher character that has some mythology going on. There's history. You have reasons revenge. You have good kills. And you know, it's real easy for me.
The parade killings I thought were great. And the one, the corn cob and the saw thing. If you remember the movie, yeah, really cool. But it has an old school star from the beginning. It's right off the bat. The house looks like it's from Friday the 13th part too. On the outside, the house that Alice was renting. And I don't know if that was done on purpose or not, but I don't usually don't miss a Friday too reference. So it had a really good star. The intro was cool. Old school feeling.
And you know, the table is set very early as to where they were going and what was going to happen. And lots of fun. And ultimately you got a cool reveal towards the end. I like what happens and I like what the killer does after the reveal. So a simple slasher. They didn't write. Yeah. They were off was a fan of the 80s slasher. A lot of these other movies.
They tried to imitate the 80s slasher and then just get it wrong because while they do research or whatever, maybe they weren't truly fans that didn't grow up with it or whatever. But Eli Roth seem to kind of get the feel and know and know what what note he needed to hit to make it feel like an 80s slasher. Yeah, man.
I had faith as soon as I heard he was going to actually do this after the trailer because the knowing the kind of fan he is, I was I was concerned a little that he was going to put a little over the top comedy in there and he really didn't. There was some humor, but it worked out.
The thing is when I saw the trailer, you know, that they made the initial one that was in Grindhouse, the way the trailer looked, it kind of looked like a different movie that had actually ended up being and but it still worked. I still really enjoyed it. And so yeah, it's one of the, it's one of the, it's one of the, it's one of the, it's one of the, a minute long trailer for a movie that you don't think it's going to happen then to make a 90 minute movie.
That has to be to your standards, let's be honest, you lie, Roth, if you hear that name connected to something, you have a certain expectation of standards. Yeah. And I will say this, you lie, Roth is doing the rounds on the convention circuit now. Oh, yeah. The main thing they always point out for him at this point is Thanksgiving at this point. This guy is still fresh in the minds of horror fans. That's cool. Well, I think I have a few of this movie has legs.
I think it's, and again, it's a movie. It's a slasher that's simple. But finally, we have a good holiday slasher, probably the best holiday slasher we've seen in years, at least from where I said, so it's been kind of quiet for a while with, with slasher's name after holidays or big days like this. Oh, there's only so many holidays. Truth, there is only so many holidays. Right. But still, I mean, you see a lot of, I mean, you can't really make a slasher around Ramadan, you know, so, and not yet.
Just, just give it time, man. We'll see. We'll see you on to our number eight, my number eight, if Jay doesn't edit this part out, I will tell you my number eight surprises me. That is number eight. And I think you might know where I'm going based on what I just said, but my number eight is Skinner Meringue. Wow. Wow. I gave it a six and a half or seven out of ten. I can't remember what I gave it, but I think it's creative. I think it's simple. I think there's a story to be told there.
I think it's creepy. I don't mind sitting, you know, I understand why it's a very tedious film to watch. There's not a lot of characters. There's not a lot of dialogue. And it kind of is left up to the viewer to kind of figure out what's going on. But that really creeped me out. So I enjoyed this movie. I think it's one of the better movies of 2020. Right. I know we're divided as a group. I know we're pretty divided on that.
It was, you know, we don't get creative movies like this very often anymore. So it's hard to look at a movie and say, Oh, well, that's different. And not only was it different, I think it was. No, that's cool. It's a very divisive movie. And I wanted a few people that doesn't love it or hate it. I just was just middleing with it. It was fine. And there was some things in it that actually gave me a spooky feeling. And it's not easy to do.
And I've like, I've only sought the one time, but I will tell you this. I could see this movie working very effectively on somebody. The first time they watch it, they sit down, they sit in the dark, they let the movie engulf them on their couch by themselves and get into it and, you know, get into the right mine state. I could be very effective. That just, you know, that hasn't happened to me. But, you know, for the record, that is how I watched it. I watched it. Oh, really?
It was my first time myself, lights out late at night. So when you have all of these, you know, creepy scenes with children or things moving, all of a sudden, you're very hyper aware of sounds happening in your house. Oh, yeah. It's whatever reminded me. Sure. I don't know if this ever happened to you, Dave. But it's what reminded me of when you get sick and you have a, you know, you have a high fever and you're kind of this end and out of consciousness.
You kind of don't know what's going on around you, just kind of see things moving. A Connor reminded me of that. So I was, I was thoroughly creeped out by it and I'd watch it again, for sure. That's cool. I think I am going to watch it again. I'm going to put myself in the right frame of mind and I'm going to do it all the right way and give it a second. So, the ambiance for what movie like that definitely helps for sure. Yeah. And I, like, I think Greg and Mortis went to the theater and saw it.
I don't think I'm moving like this would play well on a theater at all. You know, now I agree. I didn't even know what's in the theater, honestly. And if the feed listeners, if the feed gets cut off right here, it's because Jay had final edit over a content. For the record, he'd never really sancers anything, but it's just funny to say that. For sure. Okay. Nine. Number eight, right? Where I need. Okay. Where I need it. All right.
My number eight is this is a franchise movie and it's a franchise that I really have enjoyed every installment except one. And there's been how many have it? There've been five, six. Can't remember, but there's been a few. This is VHS 85. Okay. I am a found footage type of guy. I love anthologies. And this one for me was the most consistent since the first two. I, you know, usually there's like maybe one of the segments that I don't like. I like them all here.
I can definitely say that some people complained about the one, the God of technology. And I understand that complaint, but it still worked for me. I thought it was a very cool concept to have great effects. And so I was into it. But I really enjoyed them all. The boat shooting thing and the aftermath of that was really good. The one that's underground was really cool. Had really nice go on effects. This probably my favorite one.
And then at the end, that the last one they had the, the profit of dreams was going on there. It was a great concept, a great goal in there. And then when they, the way they tied it all together was a really cool reveal. And it took me by surprise because I, like I said, I, I've only disliked the third one. But I liked the, the prior to 90, 99 and 94 or whatever the hell they were, the two before of this, where I did, I did enjoy them.
But you know, there was always one that I wasn't that into or I wasn't like completely soul on everything. But this one for me was the best in a while. Who knew that this, yeah, I did see it. I haven't, I've seen the first one. I've seen this one and I feel like I've seen 94. Who knew that this had legs as a franchise when that first came out? I thought it was like this is a gimmick. The first one I came out in 2000 or late 2010 somewhere. And okay, this is gimmick. This is fun. Whatever.
Who knew was going to be this franchise. I feel like the first few entries into this franchise had more, maybe wrong, but had more segments than this one did. And maybe that's, maybe that's just me thinking that, but it seemed like these segments were a little more fleshed out than some of the other entries. Well, let's see. I think there was four in this and I'm pretty sure there was five in the first two. So there are usually four or five in the one of them only had three.
The one I didn't like, viral. I could be wrong about that. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to explain, but I, four is a good number. I mean, it's almost, I see people love anthologies. It's informal and they love a gimmick of VHS. And you know, the first two, they kind of set the bar high. A lot of people really like the first two as a matter of fact. I think more people consider the second to be the best of the franchise over the first. I'm, I flip flop on.
I relate the first two, but I like anthologies as well. I would, I would actually really dig it. So I've been going back and watching TV anthology, horror anthology, horror sci-fi, whatever you're trying to do, like, type stuff, type stuff, type stuff, tell us from the dark side. Oh, nice. Nice. You know, tell us from the script. So you have gotten through the entire runs of several of those. And I would like a movie version of that.
I know Halloween started out this and it got like, pand, because when they try to get away from Michael Myers, everyone should, you know, shit their pants about it. Yeah. So I don't know if you could do it because I think once, once a movie format becomes tied to a movie title, you kind of have to follow that format. I don't know if you could do it or not, but I would like to see that in a movie franchise.
Like, oh, hey, here's, you know, here's the new Halloween movie, but it's going to be a different story that takes place on Halloween. Like, I think that was an originally a good idea. I would love to see that in the theaters. Yeah. I would actually go see that every year because if you don't like the story from the previous year, maybe maybe this year will be different, you know, like a movie version of American horror story.
I love the idea and I honestly wish Halloween would have kept doing it. Unfortunately, part three flop, but I think the idea itself is great that they had to have something based every year. The same production, you know, and the same maybe maybe directors or whatever same team kind of got involved and did a Halloween movie or every other year or whatever it takes, but just make the franchise turn into that. I don't see a reason why they can't do it now with Michael dead, but they won't.
Well, I mean, that that character's tied to that title. There's no way they'd be able to. They'd have to change the title on it, but it's unfortunate. Somebody else should do it though, but it would really work with Halloween the best. That's the problem. You know, like you could just what are you going to call a movie Christmas, Colin shock of the hour or something. You know, Chris Christmas Eve murder. Yeah, just every year. You know, who does do that though?
You know about those things that were on Hulu, those shows, what were they called? Into the director or something like that? Well, they had a different. It was like an anthology show, but based around. Yeah, I don't have Hulu, so you'll have to explain this to me. Oh, well, it was a series where they were coming out with a different movie a month, just a different horror movie for this thing, but they how long were they?
Because I want to make sure I do the right thing here, but I think it's called Into the Dark. Then again, if I can't remember, then this the end of this conversation. So sorry. There it is, Into the Dark 2018 TV series. Okay, a whole anthology series with each episode inspired by a holiday. So oh, that's cool. Yeah. So they did this on Hulu in 2000 from 2018 to 2021. There's 24 episodes and one would come out each month. And there was one that was really good actually.
It was called I want to say it was the Thanksgiving one. That's what's so impressive about it because there's been so few things. It was, yeah, it was called Pilgrim. It came out. It was now I'm writing this. Season two. Yeah, watch it. Apparently a lot of people didn't like the second season as they did the first, but I really enjoyed Pilgrim. I would have liked for that to be able to be on DVD.
I'll look and see if it's, I'm sure it's not because even hellraisers, they didn't give that a release. So, but anyway, they did that with this show and that was cool. And I would like to see it. And like that's why I look to see how long they were. I can't remember if they were full length movies or if they were just like hour long, you know, TV dramas. Yeah, that I can't remember. I'd have to look that up and see. But more on that, maybe another time 24 episodes. Let's see.
Oh, yeah, an hour 23 minutes. Yeah, they are full. Oh, that's a movie. Yeah. Okay. An hour 21. Yeah. So there you go. That's what they did. But you know, they're kind of middleing ratings. Some are higher than others, but. Yeah, that's how I thought it worked. It was EHS 85. Now we're moving on to number number seven. My number seven is a streaming original. I believe it was a shutter original, not that shutter produced it, but a shutter bought it.
I think and had some exclusivity on it at some point. And that is the movie Dark Harvest from 2023. It's a story that takes place in a small town and they have this small town tradition where there's a demon that, you know, tries to destroy the town every Halloween and the boys of the town have to try to destroy the demon before it gets to a certain place in town to wreak havoc. And there's a whole bunch of lore that goes along with this.
This film, maybe the reason that I've got it so high is I had had no expectations for it. I had it blew me out of the water. It isn't like my favorite horror film all the time, but I thought it was a very solid straight to streaming. Sort of movie had a nice plot with some nice visuals, even though there's like a twist ending. The twist ending is super obvious. I think to anyone watching it, you're probably going to figure it out halfway through, but that even makes it a little better.
So I really liked what they were able to do with this film on a smaller budget for streaming. I think it was an independent film that did the rounds, all of the movie festivals and probably got bought up by Shutter. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but that's kind of how I feel about it. Maybe it wasn't even Shutter. I don't remember where I watched it, honestly. I'm assuming it's Shutter. So for that purpose, for that reason, Dark Harvest is my number seven movie of 2023. Right on.
I like Dark Harvest and it's definitely the best movie that's titled Dark Harvest because there have been a slew of them. So there's been like seven or eight. And they're all scarecrow related and this is one of the better scarecrow type movies. You know what I'm saying? Yep. And I'm a big fan of the small town feel. So it's, yeah, saw tooth jack. I have fun with this. I think we reviewed this over the past year. We did. But we did. And the scarecrow genre is unfortunately barren.
I'm very many good films. And this isn't necessarily a scarecrow, but it has that scarecrow feel. So right on. Yeah. Yeah. Right. My number seven also is another franchise movie and played at the theater and it's evil dead rise. Mm hmm. This is for me. This is what I was what I was kind of saying before about Halloween. And I've said this about so many other franchises.
Why can't we just take a movie franchise and just do something where it can be a standalone type thing and just have it be great. And I've said this before about all these franchises. Just give me a fight of the 13th. I don't need a beginning story and I end story. And just put Jason in the woods and have me a can't quit like you kids going there. Put Michael in the head and field or anywhere and have a bump people off. All the connectivity. We don't have to have it.
And you know, that's what I like about this franchise. It's a strong franchise. I'm not a big fan of Army of darkness to me. That's what I was going to say. The second and third movie doesn't seem to be your cup of tea, Dave. The second to me. That was really silly. They're really silly. They're really silly. Well, I don't think evil dead too is silly. I think it's a, it's just, it's one of those movies that blends it right. And I saw it at the right age and I still have love for it.
So but I don't think it's like goofy the way army of darkness is and Ash certainly wasn't acting the way he wants. It's not, but it's goofy, especially compared to the first one. It's a goofy remake of the first. Compared. Yeah, by comparison. Yes, it's, but some of it's good, but some of the effects were better as a result and some of his work. Well, because I had money, right? So. And I can appreciate it, but evil that rises is perfect.
And at first, I was like, I don't like taking things out of where they're supposed to be. I'm never a fan of anybody. I want Jason to be in camp crystal like, you know, I don't like expanding. Like, even when I heard about Jason takes man head and when I was a kid, I was already turned off because he was going to be in man head and hell. I didn't watch home. Terrible. Terrible movie. So. Yeah. And I was in, it is a bad movie.
But I mean, I didn't even see home alone too until like maybe two years ago, because I never liked the fact that it was in New York. Well, they made this justice on the resurrection of zombie seven podcasts. The creatives, I used, I used that term very loosely with air quotes. I didn't say creatives. I should say the producers of these films. Eventually, they think everything has to revolve around LA or New York. So literally every franchise goes to either Hollywood or New York at some point.
And that's when you pretty much know they've jumped the shirt. And you know what? I agree with you on that. I don't, don't send people places. Don't do it. Although I will say what they've done with the Chuck E series. They had the one season that was in the White House. And it worked. I haven't seen it, but I'll take your word for it. It's fun. It's a fun show. It's good. Listen, the Chuck E stuff, the Chuck E stuff is amazing because this, the one guy writes all of it.
And the way he made it incredibly silly and then the many people said, no, no, we want Chuck E to be scary. And then he brought it back. That's to be commended on him. But that's either here nor there. Agreed. Evil dead rise. This is what I'm going to say about evil dead rise. The reason that works in a different location is because it's not ash, right? It's just an economic con and that floats. It's just like the, I don't live in dead franchise, right?
So we see the original My Living Dead masterpiece 10 out of 10. We also see what happens in the shopping mall in Pennsylvania at the same time. We also see what happens in the military, a bunker, you know, at the same time. And then that expands more to overseas and on islands and things. And they're not. It's good movies, but it's all the same zombie apocalypse. That's happened to be happening in different places. And that doesn't, there are certain genres I think you can do that with.
And zombie definitely is one of them. Definitely. And I will. This is simple, you know? It's a book, Necromanicon, in freaking. There you go. Have things go down. You know what I mean? Yeah, have things go down. Have possession. It's, it's pretty simple. And at the same time, stay true to your franchise without eating every little thing. You can have your little, you know, nowadays, 2023, 2000, just modern films have got to do this stuff. They love referencing older films.
And ultimately, it's going to date us, I think. Like 20 years from now, you're going to watch all these things for like this time. You're like, what's that? What's that? Oh, yeah, that's one of that's when they were always referencing the older films from 30 years before. Oh, okay. I don't think it's going to be something that's going to last forever and ever. Now, we go through, we go through periods, right? I'm going to keep talking about, I'm going to keep talking about evil, that dries.
Do you know why, Dave? Because it's yours too. It's my number six. Nice. Well, there we go. We can fly right in. Evil, that dry. We're going to sag right into my number six evil, that dries. And here's what I'm saying. I don't think it's a perfect movie because I think the wrap around is really, really good. And I think the ball of that ice is really, really good. It's confusing. Yeah, the ball. Yeah, it was a little shark jumpy. I'm with you there.
Yeah, I will say though, everything that happens in the apartment complex is super solid. And I'm here for it. And it's gory and the killed children. And yes. And I am here for all of that. And I will say this is a list of other ones is the second dead person who I'm kind of like, I might, I might, I might, you know, it's her and trash from return of living dead. I'm kind of like, yeah, I, you know, I might. Is that the mother or is that the other one? That's the mom.
Yeah, the mom, the one who the one. Yeah, she's the zombie, right? So, I mean, the big thing for me, the big thing for me was they put the children in danger. And then did the danger to the children love it. And there was a lot of core and there's a, you know, there's a lot of things you expect out of the evil dead movie. A traditional evil dead movie, not an army of darkness type evil dead movie. So, I think that it works on that level. This the wrap around story was really, really dumb.
I didn't like that. But so that's why it's not higher on the. Can you see? Yeah. It screwed me up. I thought the girl in the beginning was the girl that showed up the sister of the Rody that showed up. I thought that was the girl in the beginning. So I'm like, wait, how come she's normal now? What's going on? I'm like, oh, this must be cool. She's going to end up like that later. They had like three girls in the last two movies that looked alike.
But the girl in this movie looked like the girl in the beginning and that girl also looked like Jane Levy did in the 2013 remake. It's really weird. I even took pictures one day in the group chat. I said, look it. And I showed closeups of other faces. Like a look they all look alike. It was just weird. But yeah, the wrap around confused me and, but you got it. I mean, I get the wrap around is this right?
Yeah, the wrap around is to show how the, how it got to the department complex and all then I get it. It just wasn't good. Right. No, that's for it. But everything else was great. Once we got to the department complex was great. So yeah, I love all this stuff. Sorry. That's my number six. And hopefully one day I'll meet Alyssa's other one. Indeed. Yes. Okay. So number six, this is the, I think this is just, this might have been an Netflix. I don't know, but I was turned off to it at first.
It was, you know, a direct to video or whatever, direct streaming. And I thought that the poster made it look like something that it wasn't. I thought it was going to be some type of comic thing and it just, I didn't like the look of the cover. So I was like, well, I don't know if it's going to be my cup of tea. Well, it wasn't like that at all. This is a completely different movie than I imagined. And it's called Brooklyn 45 and man, I've heard, I've heard of Brooklyn 45, Dave.
I have not seen it. But I have definitely heard Brooklyn 45, maybe from you in the chat. Maybe you would probably really like it because it's, it's almost set up like a stage play like a, most of the movie takes place in this one place because they go to the guy's house. I do really like movies like that. Yeah, I do too. It's just because if you have good storytelling and good dialogue, your movies either going to work or it's not going to work when you're in one location.
So when it works, I just appreciated so much where it grabs you at the beginning and you have different characters and that you care for different motivations and just, and they're a really good plot. And you know, yes, I have a good cast to pull that off. Yes. And you know what? They really do. And Christina Klebe was fantastic in this movie, which I didn't know was her until I looked at the end. I go, who played that one? And she plays a, a, a, a German, you know, who's in the States.
So she has her accent and everything. And I was like, wow, she did a really good job. But all of her performances are really good. Oh, you know, I want to say, I'm pretty sure Larry Fessenden was in this too. And you can't go wrong with him. But it's, it's called Brooklyn 45 because it's the year 45. Yeah, that's the end of the MZ and it too. Yes, it's got a really good cast.
It's less than a year after the war ends and there's five veterans from the war, their friends and ones a major ones, a, a Colonel and Terrogator. They all have, they all kind of had different roles in the war. And it's like six weeks after the, the wife's death of the one guy who was, they were both in the military. And he calls them over to his house. And it's like I said, it's only six weeks after death. It's holiday time. It's, oh, I just never knew where I, where I know this from.
I kept, now I know where I know this from, Dave, because you, because you, you were just told me the plot. It's the movie that I kept choosing other movies to watch instead of it. And then when I finally watched it, I got like 10 minutes into it and I fell asleep because it was like two o'clock in the morning. Oh man, go back to it, man. Yeah, I'm going to go back to it.
Yeah, go back to it because he has a stance and let's just say it was a shuttered shuttered shuttered shuttered shuttered shuttered by the way. Was it? Yeah. Okay. But it's saying a lot of stuff. There's a lot of like racism towards Germans, even though the war is over. And these are people that are just regular citizens that escaped. And you have hardcore, you know, military people. And there's a cover up of something else that went out with one of them.
So there's all these nice little subplots and everything just now that I'm talking about it and it's been so long. You ever have that happy? You haven't seen a movie in like a long time and almost forgot about it and then you start talking about it and like, you know, and I'm like, it isn't just that it all comes back to me. It's just that I want to go watch it now. I think I might like it now because I'm talking about it. I'm fine. It's almost like I'm like, wow, this movie is really great.
And I think I want to go back and watch it again and show it to my friends. So it's just like just one of those things. So I'll leave it at that. I won't say anything else about it. If you haven't seen it, see it. And obviously that includes you, Ron. But definitely my list into the dark and Brooklyn 45. Right. It's a really good movie. So let's check it out. All right. Here we go. We're back. Another giveaway during the Ron Martin Dave Z. Oh. All right.
So we will have no argument between those two. I'm sure no, it'll go smoothly like butter. Yeah. Like butter. Yeah, they won't be sticklers or anything about anything. Well, you know what? They will be sticklers about Jay. That's the rules to win. Yes. You got to be 18 or older, plus of an US. And as we know, unless you're Macula, that's a little asterisk. I put notes on all these. But the giveaway this episode is Cobweb. Yes. And the winner is the great.
The mighty, the awesome, the twisted Dempterus herself, Pearl Amortus. Pearl Amortus. Yes. And why haven't we been calling her that yet? That's a good point. I do. Probably shouldn't ask you to. Probably because she would just prefer Pearl. Pearl probably. But that is a Dempterus. That is a Blu-ray plus digital. And that is for Pearl who won this because she is one of the most wonderful, most supportive people in the entire horror community. We love Pearl. So we just want you to know. All rules.
And actually, I got to change something real quick about the rules to win. Much like Macula under 18. So she's a caveat on that one too. That's right. She's only 17. Yep. Which we just realized made great creepy. So sorry, never mind. Correct that. Oh, yeah. Never mind. She is 18. So she just made it under the wire. There you go. Oh. Good catch there. Good catch. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait, you know what, Jay, before we go, let's do one more winner.
Yeah, since Halloween is in a couple of days, maybe we should say, you know, screw these co-hosts. Let's do another listener giveaway. Yeah. And just because Ron, the great Ron Martin loves this movie so much, you felt like you had to give this one away to somebody so that they could feel his excitement and passion that I had for this movie. Yeah. Just to show how much Ron appreciates this, we want to put more of this film out into the world. Fair enough.
And that movie is SawX, which we know he gave. I think he gave it like a 9.87654321. No, we're at two or something. Yeah. Close enough. SawX is going to the winner who also wins for having one of the greatest names ever. And that is Rumpel for Skin. Did you say crumpled for skin? I didn't say crumpled. I said Rumpel. Oh, okay. We also create a similar image in one's mind. It's crumpled. It's crumpled. It's subtly. Yeah, I do like that.
Yes. And you guessed, you could guess that that listener's name. So Rumpel for Skin, Blu-ray plus DVD plus digital. Congrats. All right. We'll halfway through number five. Dave, I don't know that you're going to like this one. It's a little cheesy. But it just hit me at the right time at the right moment. Sometimes when I work, my bar shifts on a Friday night, I'll get home around 1 1 30 in the morning. And usually if that's the case, I'll just throw on some. Or maybe I haven't seen.
And sometimes I fall asleep and sometimes I get just my attention. I'm like, well, this is pretty pretty. And that's what happened with this one. So my number five is going to be Amazon Prime original, totally killer, which is a whore take on back to the future, basically. Yeah. I think this movie was on, I think this was a shutter, too, to be honest. I think it was the Amazon Prime original. I made it. Or, huh? OK. Yeah. And I don't know if it ended up on shutter or not.
And I know it was produced by Blumhouse. And I don't love Blumhouse. But I do think that what they're good at doing is stuff like this, taking a concept that we all know and making it fun and throwing some horror aspects in here. And I really, and I just knew to hit me at the right time, I think, you know, it was the right day of the right time. And I got, you know, a good chuckle out of it. I thought it was creative. I enjoyed the storyline.
I enjoyed the actors and I enjoyed a little twists that it had at the end as well. So it's definitely not a movie like Skinner, Meringue. That's going to create you out. I bet some movie can have fun with. No, I did have fun with it. I like it. I mean, it's a slasher by definition. There isn't a whole lot of traditional slashing going on. It's more about preventing slashing from happening. So, but I do enjoy it being a slasher fan. I really enjoy all the 80s stuff, of course.
And I mean, Kiernan Ship goes always good. So I like her too. And it was an interesting plot and it worked out. So no, I think some of the writing was actually clever. I don't think it was goofy. I like this. You think that's the, a good description of it is a horror version that back to the future. 100%. Yeah. That's, and again, that's the kind of stuff that's allowed to be. That's well, right? They did the horror version of Groundhogs.
They did the horror version of Freaky Friday, you know, and those are the ones they do well. Kayslay, they'll pop out something they're not expecting, but that's more a case of they gave money to somebody who knew how to make a movie. That tried to, you know, this, this Wolfman movie coming out has me frightened, but we'll see what I feel. No, I feel you. What's your number five, Dave? My number five, I have a feeling this movie isn't your cup of tea, but you never know.
You're kind of unpredictable. This is Infinity Pool. You're right. It's not my cup of tea. There you go. I, and I can understand why it's not a type of movie that's for everybody. I was very excited going into it. Number one, Mia got this my favorite and has been for a while and Brendan Cronenberg is also great. And I just think he's getting better with each movie. And this is a great cast, a great score.
There isn't a whole lot of blood and gore, but when we do get it, it's done really well and beautiful women in the movie. And just a kind of, I believe, you know, they're making different statements in here, but they're not doing it to a point of beating you over the head with it. At least that's not what I got out of it. And it's a very original type movie as far as I'm concerned. I can't recall seeing a movie just like this, but I mean, it's just done really well.
It's just he's a good director. It looks good. It sounds good. It's an interesting story. It's weird and it's got trippy visuals sometimes and whatnot. And it's just stuff that that's kind of out my alley. It's not going to be for everybody, but if you're into that type of stuff, see it.
And honestly, it's, I mean, I probably say it a lot, but it's worth it to see Mia God's performance along because I think this seems to be a movie where performance is kind of slept on a little bit like, yeah, it's never taught that. That's how I feel. Right. And she does really good, especially in the climax when she's harassing them and she just shows different ranges. And I think she's great. And I do, I do like stars, guards. I think this guy doesn't have the chick from Jason X in it too.
Hmm. Is wife. Yeah. Wait a minute. I think from Jason X, but that would have been too long ago. Okay. Maybe I'm the other woman. Oh, man, what's her name? Cleopatra Coleman. Yeah, I love her too. Yeah, that's the other one. Who do you see? Okay. She was in Cobweb. Yeah. I never done that now. Jope sick. I don't know if you've seen that show, but I didn't know her. I didn't know her by name, but I looked her up. So I know her too, because I think she's, she's kind of special. So, but I like her.
Right. Okay. I'm down for me, a goff being one of our horror queens. I'm way into that. Yay. If Cleopatra Coleman wants to be that as well, I'm down for that too. Right on. I see you, you got good taste. I wish that Gillian Jacobs would do more horror. That's, I want her to be one of our horror queens as well. That's who I was trying to think of. Oh, I don't know the guy who that is. Yeah. She was in, well, she wasn't bad Milo. It's probably what, that's not a great movie.
But she was also in, um, shoot, what's that movie? It was one of my best, it was one of the best horror movies that was actually a new horror movie in 2020. It was about screens and loneliness. It was really good. Um, shoot, what's the name of that movie? Now I'm not going to look it up. Yeah. I don't know, but she, was she in what do you call it? Fear Street? She wasn't fear Street, but those movies were terrible. So I tried to forget the things. Oh, my gosh.
Okay. Are you thinking of, come place? Then maybe that, that, that, hey, mount 2020. But she wasn't, she wasn't fear Street. Those are true. She's films. I can't believe you don't like to shoot that. We won't, we won't, we won't, we won't count that. We'll just, we'll skip that and we can have her be one of her horror queens. I tried to listen, I tried to, uh, tweet her and try to get her to be, say, hey, do more horror, but she had, um, deleted her Twitter account at some point.
So I, so I tweeted that all of her castmates from the community, uh, TV show, uh, TV show, um, and said, Hey, you talked to Gilly and Tyler to do more horror. We want her to be our horror queen. We will worship her. Awesome. No one got that, no one got back to be bastards. Well, seems like she's the TV actress now. She's like, that's all she's doing is TV. Like she has a lot of credits for TV. Damn it. Like a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. I think we did.
Once they go to TV after being in movies and they, and they keep doing good. It's, I don't know, it's probably think it's an easier paycheck. Well, we got, we got me a guy. So we could, oh yeah, we do. Yes, sir. Can't wait for Jennifer to take it to go to TV, but that's all regardless. My number four, my number four is the better version of Talk to Me bag head. We did this one on the show.
And that's how I was introduced to it is an Australian horror film that has a very similar plot to talk to me, but I think was produced around the same time if not a little bit before. Talk to me and on the other side of the world as well. Are you on that review, Dave? I thought bag head was from this year. And I thought we just reviewed it like five months ago. We did review it five months ago, but it came out in 2023, very late 2023. Maybe I'm wrong. It's on my list. And if J. Oh, yeah.
I'm not mad at it. It came out in December 28 in Germany in 2023, but it came out here United States April 5th, 2024. Well, I feel like on my, but it's okay. I feel like on my TV, it said 2020 2023. So it's on my list. And if I see that, then J. Can tell me otherwise. And he can put, I don't know, five nights at Freddy's in there or something. I don't think anybody cares. That's cool. I liked it too. I don't know. For some reason, then my head is. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, look, look, I just clicked on the Wikipedia. Backhead is a 2023 horror film directed by Alberto Carrera. Oh, yeah, it was filmed in 2023. Certainly. Like, yeah, that's good enough for me. The Wikipedia page says 2023 film. Yep. IMBB calls it 2023 as well. That's what's weird about when the show is. Then when. Right. Legally, you're in. Yes, you're good. Yeah, so when I said this on our review of the movie, you know, it's a similar plot to talk to me.
I think it's a better version of that. I think the, I think the characters are better. There is one big plot hole that I don't love. It's, you know, that's pretty obvious if you watch the film, but it's a good enough film that you should be willing to overlook that. I was willing to overlook that. I mean, it's not a 10 out of 10 or anything, but I think it's a well done film. And I think the premise is well done.
I just feel like a talk to me was just getting to that and surprise and twist the ending thing. And this, this doesn't really, doesn't really have that. And I enjoy the ending of this film actually, because it's a little different than what you're expecting. But it's kind of because of that plot, it's kind of because of that plot hole. So I mentioned the plot hole in our episode. So if somebody's really interested, then go back and watch a, or listen to our review of back.
And I don't want to spoil it for anyone here who maybe haven't seen it. Since it might be a 2023 film, might be a 2024 film. That's the major twist. We don't know what year came out in. Yeah. There you have it. Right. Well, that's cool. No, I liked it. I liked it. We review that one together. I know. I know. I was on the review and I know Mr. Watson and Jay were on the review. I don't remember who else is on it. I feel like there was quite a few people on it though. Maybe you were on it Dave.
Yeah, I can't remember. Well, my number four, we reviewed it and you were on it. And I know you don't like it. So and we talked so much about it, especially me when we did review it, then I'm not going to say a whole huckabalat, but it's saw 10. So yeah, that is true. I did not like that film. And I went into a big trip as the white. So I won't say I won't I won't repeat. Right. And I won't say too much. I'll say I loved it.
And it's been my favorite since like the first three or no one two three, since part six, like the last three that came out, they were fine, but they weren't like saw level. They weren't there to me. They were they weren't doing anything for the franchise. Were this one made me very happy and it was great seeing them all again who come back and I'm going to play with the opportunity. Right. And I'm going to be having ghosts or video or we found this tape of of Jigsaw from 1984.
He knew this was going to happen. Yeah. Some of the ideas later. Right. I mean, it's cool that you like the movie. That's fine. Let me ask you this about it, Dave. For this movie takes place between movies one and two allegedly, right? Right. Correct. So which is fine. I, it's kind of a stretch for me. At this point, I'm just kind of like, can we not move on to something else? Like you have milked this saw rock. You have milked all of the blood out of the saw rock.
We need to like, we need to move on to other other things. But do you not have, is it not by the you that because of placing this film between those two films that it causes a lot of continuity issues within the franchise? It's called the newties that make me in a franchise. Me too. That's why I love the software in a franchise when it works. It works. But I didn't notice anything that would mess up the continuity unless you have something on hand. Oh, I feel back on this one.
This all 10 episode I point out a whole. Yeah. Yeah. Don't remember sending that happened here, messing with the continuity of what came after one of those, it was one of those situations where I listed a whole bunch of things that I didn't like about the movie that made that did not work in the movie because of continuity issues. Number one being there in Mexico and no one speaks Spanish. And then everyone on the podcast is like everything you're saying is true, but we don't care.
I don't like to say things like that though. I can't believe I would say that because I judge a movie based on what makes sense and everything else off. I would have saw things that that's what separates this from other movie because if it makes sense, I'll rate it high and I'll enjoy it more if it doesn't, I won't. And yeah, it is silly that nobody I didn't think about speaking Spanish, but I hear you. I mean, it's kind of weak, but. I like it. It doesn't deter me enough to take me out of it.
Sure. I mean, I'm sure there's a ton of action movies that do the same thing that people love, like highly regarded movies that people just don't think about it. Fuck yeah. And that's for sure. 100%. You know, so I guess that would have been my response. I guess I might thrilled about it, but it doesn't bother me that much at all. But sometimes they do sometimes they don't. But this is what the series needed for me. It brought it back.
It brought them all back in a short of different side of Jigsaw that I was happy than I wanted to see and it just. It did the stuff. It attributed the series the way it should have and do the total surprise for me. I was just when I heard it was going to be in it and everything else and I was like, man, what are they doing? But it just surpassed all my expectations and I'm happy. And to me, it was a great way to wrap it all up. Now I know the other one's coming out.
Yeah, you didn't think that was going to be the last one. It made money. I was just hoping because it was 10 and it was that happy ending and I was like, he didn't say game over at the end. Nobody did. I almost felt like it was a, I don't know. The world is for the feeling. If it makes one dollar more than it costs, there must be a sequel. No questions asked. It's a law. It's sad. Yeah, that's just it. But I have my heart vested. I know I'm just my heart was invested in this franchise.
I blame you. I'm you and Jay for that. Because we spent money on it. Well, and also because since we're reviewing it, I also had to spend money on it. Oh, that's right. I take no blame. I take I put that one on you guys, you know, let's just hope. When the next one comes out, it's not a turn. Yeah, maybe it'll be fun. Much as this. Maybe. But there it is. Saw ten. I was very, very happy with it. Listen, and you were surprised by it, right? Yes, yes, I was. Especially after the last three.
Yeah. I was really surprised to be more in 2023 than my number three entry. So I'm using that as a second one. Nice. My number three, this was the biggest surprise of me to me of the year. Scream six. Oh, yeah. The fact that scream six is one of the worst movies ever made. It was not a surprise to me. Oh, man. No, but this is the franchise movie. The first movie in the franchise was decent. The second one was just so as far as I never bothered with the rest of the franchise.
But I watched this one just to just above up my 2023 horror movie watching so I could so you know, I could be well versed and you know, create a list of ten that are good. And this is a shutter original all produced by shutter like only on shutter. It's the Hell House LLC origins the Carmichael manor. Hell House LLC. The first movie is it's a found footage. It's kind of clever. The second movie is absolutely atrocious.
So whenever watch the third movie based on how completely terrible the second movie was, I have retrospectively learned that the third movie isn't quite as bad as the second movie. I watched this movie with maybe it's because I had very, very low expectations of it. But it's also another like found footage because the whole franchise is around footage, except for when the second one doesn't want to be found footage, that's a whole different story.
And this is like a haunted house type of film that ties into the origins of the rest of the franchise. And I thought it was very effective. It was very creepy. There were lots of jump scares that worked in a found footage film. There weren't so many characters that you had to keep track of everyone.
There's only like three characters in the house, but there's enough of the lore of the rest of the franchise to the point where I got on the internet afterwards and I'm like, I got to figure out the rest of the lore of it. If I'm, you know, if this is a good movie, I'm going to figure out the rest of the lore of it. So I'm sure there's another one coming out that's going to tie in as well. So I was super surprised by Hell House LLC origins, the Carmichael manor.
And I would recommend if you're a found footage guy like I would, you could watch this without probably watching the rest of the Hell House LLC series and still maybe not connect all the lore together, but there's enough, it's self contained enough to where you can watch it and be satisfied without having seen the other three. Man, I'm so happy you chose this. I did not see this coming and I am a fan of the whole franchise. Dave, I did not see this coming. I write, I know.
Wow. I was just checking it off my list so I could tell you guys I watched it basically. Yeah, I fucking saw that movie fucking terrible. That's not what happened. I was pleasantly surprised. I guess I retrospectively learned that the third movie isn't so bad. So I guess this was really only one third in the franchise. I'll have to go back and watch that third one. As a matter of fact, actually, I do have a friend coming over for a horror marathon.
It's the Halloween season as we're recording this. I don't know exactly when this is going to come out. My understanding is it will come out right before Halloween. So that's the case. It is the Halloween season. I do have a friend coming over. Hmm. Is there a night for a horror marathon? And I think we're just going to binge watch all the Hell House LLC movies. Dude, that's great. I mean, even that. Even that terrible second one. I like them all. And here's the funny thing.
A lot of people that are fans of the franchise. A lot of people think that two is a turd. And yet a lot of people love to and think that three is the turd. And it's really weird. And I like them all. I think the first one is the best. Definitely. And the next three I kind of have on equal. You know, I enjoy them all. I just love the world that this guy is built. I love continuity in a franchise. It's, you know, and it works here. And when they do it right, I just like paranormal activity.
I just, I really get into it when they all tie into each other and they can, in, uh, there's another one coming. And I'm excited. I've never reviewed any of these movies, not any of them. And I keep wanting to say, I'm going to do it on exploding heads. We're going to, I'm going to make those guys say, hey, we're going to do this. We're going to do one a week. And for something, and maybe we'll do it this year, but what are you doing? I reviewed the first two over on res zombie seven.
Um, and I was just so turned off by that second one. I'm not a person who thinks second one is a turd. I know the second one is a turd. And that's why I didn't watch the, that's why I didn't watch the third one. I was like done with the franchise. And literally, like I said, literally, I, this was going to be a throwaway, you know, again, another, I came home late one night. It's midnight. Whatever. I was throwing a horror movie. If it's dumb, I'll just fall asleep.
If it catches my attention, you know, and I was, um, fairly entertained for the, the entire film. And for, uh, a, a, a footage film, you know, you really have to kind of suspend this belief on a lot of these, uh, because it doesn't make sense for a lot of people to be holding a camera the entire time. They're being attacked by all these demons and things. But I think most of the time in this film, it made sense. And that's always a big plus for me, you know, in a, yeah. Yes, sir.
And I think you have to see them all to, to fully appreciate everything about them. That, that's how I think this one self contained enough that you could watch. Just want to be entertained. Yes, but it definitely helps having the knowledge of the others. It's just, it's like an extra spice. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, okay.
It's just something because like when they're showing some things, when they go back to that one, curioshop and they're picking things out and we've seen that in the other movies before. And if you don't have that knowledge, it doesn't hold the same weight, I guess. Well, I'm for a person like me, a person like me, it spice enough of my, my noggin here that I wanted to, I wanted to go back and fully explore the rest of the lore.
I did that a little bit on the internet and I'll, I'll check out that third movie. It's, well, I guess I'll check it off for them again here pretty soon. So yeah, right on the, the rest you see has a one after the other. So, yeah, that's a good one. All right. Okay, well, this movie here, my number three was also a surprise.
I didn't really know anything about it and then it came up and I did a tiny bit of what I do kind of research and I said, okay, I'll give this one a shock and wow, man, it blew me away. And this is 100% not going to be for everyone because it's very, very dialogue heavy. But like I always say, if the dialogue has me hooked for a whole movie and I'm like, wow, I don't want to leave the conversation. To me, that makes it great because it's very hard to do.
I am a person that can easily zone out when there's discussion. I said it many times that certain decades and certain circumstances and movies, I always say there's too much unnecessary dialogue and it that's a turn off for me because once I get bored, I'm ADHD, man, I'm gone. I had someplace else. Oh, yeah. I've produced a lot of reviews on what we're podcasting. It's Dave. Dave Dave. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I zoned up. I could do it as I'm talking. I could zone out. It could happen.
You've only got to be interested. Almost. But I'm interested enough here. But okay, it's called nefarious. And actually it was a little controversial for some people. But the funny thing is the way I see it, some people are saying that it was criticizing one side of political affiliation and I'm like, honestly, it was kind of being impartial based on you're picking off this thing. They did this. So this means I'm and I'm like, wait a minute.
They also said this doesn't that doesn't that support your side? It's funny. People only like to complain about things they don't like, but then don't like to say, Oh, wow, give something a pass and say, Hey, they said this too. So yeah, anyway, they can make anything political for against their side. Even that's how it works these days. Both sides. Sabotrules. Yes, sir. Yeah. So I'm going to read you the the the the IMDB. I'm going to cheap it. But this is what it says.
On the day of the scheduled execution, a convicted serial killer gets a psychiatric evaluation during which he claims he is a demon and further claims that before their time is over, the psychiatrist will commit three murders of his own. So the psychiatrist comes to sit down with this gentleman who is going to be executed. He's a serial killer and to determine whether he is insane or not so he can go in the chair ultimately to see if he's going to you know, so he has to be evaluated.
And the guy says I'm possessed and everything else explains all the stuff to him. And we get deep deep into conversation and a lot of things go on between these two characters. And I will say that it had me intrigued from beginning to end. And I was really happy with the way it wound up. Again, if you're tripped up and some type of political stuff, you may have issues with it, but I'm telling you.
Without giving anything away, it's like saying, okay, this political party has these three things they don't like. So during this movie, one of those things was done while there's other political party also has three things that it don't like. But guess what? They also went after that. To me, it was an equal opportunity offender, you know what I mean? But it wasn't trying to offend anyone.
It was just a story because you got to remember when you're talking about demonic possession in that world, each and every time the devil exists and God exists, that is what goes on in religious movies. You have to take that. You have to take what comes with that. So I can't get into it. Right. And I can't get into why because then it would be spoiler. I really think people should check this movie. I think it's so engaging that it's, I don't know, there's very few movies like it.
And it's about a demon possession and him basically saying that, you know, you, you sin too. And I'm going to expose you because I'm a demon. I know what you've done in your life. So it's kind of one of those things and man, it's really cool. And that's all I'm going to say because I think it's on the spoiler. I'm pretty sure it's on TV. Well, I was still going through TV last night and I think I saw it listed. A furious. Wow. I thought it was initially someplace else. Let's see.
Well, it's everywhere. It's on peacock, plex prime to be. Yeah. So don't ever go on plex. Don't ever go on. I don't even know what I don't even know what that is. Oh, it's a followsht. It's great if you're leaching off of somebody, but they also have, it's a what do you call it's a media share thing. You know what I mean? I know I know where you're saying.
Yeah. Okay. So it's great if you're if you're leaching off a friend, someone else's library and they say, you know, you subscribe to their plex, but plex itself also has its own movies at its dreams. But it literally will take you two and a half hours to watch an hour and a half. Well, it's that bad. Dude, it's the worst ever. So don't watch free movies on plex. And why would you when you got to be? So yeah, to be amazing. Check this movie out, man. I think it's great.
It's another one now that I'm talking about it. I want to go watch it. So there you have it. I haven't seen it. I had it to the list. Cool, man. It's three. You got me on, Dave. Sweet. And today, we've already spoken about today because it was on your list. And the reason that's higher on my list until I got to my number one movie, I didn't think there was like any really great horror movies of 2020. I thought some really good ones, but really good and really great or two different things.
And this one was really good. And the reason that was really good was because as we already mentioned, it's a love letter to 80s slasher horror. It works on so many levels more than we talked about. Of course, I'm talking about you like Ross Thanksgiving because it is a flashback to those early 80s slasher films that always had a holiday, right, based around them. Even if it was April Fool's Day or something, there was always some sort of gimmick that went with it.
And what I liked about this film was it acted as a parody of those films while also being an effective and very good version of those films. It's kind of brilliant because we don't have that many Thanksgiving horror films. I mean, no one's watching Thanksgiving and if you are, if you are, there's something mentally disturbed about you, you probably should get a professional. Your next is a good Thanksgiving horror film, but it's not a slasher, right? It's a home invasion film.
So to have a good Thanksgiving slasher, it just is brilliant because now I'm going to watch this every year around Thanksgiving because that's what horror bands do, right? We're creatures of habit. And one thing I love about it most is the Thanksgiving based film. And if you have a Thanksgiving based film, I want the murders to be Thanksgiving themed no matter how silly that might be. Like for example, I bring this up.
If you have a movie that's a clown movie where the killer is a clown, I want clown deaths. I want deaths by, will be pie. You know, I want deaths by, you know, acid and the flower that's spraying water on you or something. Unless it's like one of those, I escape. But about art the clown. Art the clown doesn't do clowny thing. It doesn't. Yeah, it just kills. Gory, right? That's a different type of mystery. There's many different types of clowns.
But so in a Thanksgiving movie, what I want is I want Thanksgiving based kills, especially one that's going to be tongue in cheek and kind of, you know, self referential and kind of poking fun at the genre while also making a great genre film. And that's what we got here. I was not disappointed with anything I got in Thanksgiving. I'm like, I came in thinking, okay, this will probably be decent. And it was, and it was, even exceeded my expectations, even though I had some expectations.
So I was very, very happy with the film. And that's why it's sitting here at my number two of 2023. And I'll watch it again here in a couple of months when it comes around to November. Very cool. That's great, man. That's great. You like Roth, right? True. 100%. Yeah. Yep. That's great. And yeah, I mean, a Thanksgiving slasher called Thanksgiving. I mean, well, I started out as a joke, right? In a fake commercial in the grind, between the grindhouse films, but he turned it into something.
And there was, I haven't been, I guess I have been to a convention since then, but I guarantee you that a horror convention, there'll be, there'll be people cosplaying as characters from this film. True. John Carver. Yeah, man, that's a new thing. Maybe there'll be some sequels too. Who knows? I haven't been to spare Halloween yet this year, but I guarantee there's a John Carver costume there. I hope so. I'll be there as soon as thattober first roll is around. I'll be checking them out.
So that would be cool. How am I even weird? I'll tell you, it does make a good double building with blood rage that, that's, you know, that's a slasher that takes place on Thanksgiving. So that could be cool. And I do, let me ask you that, actually, I already know the answer. You want it to be a little tongue in cheek as opposed to, well, I want to be. Here's what I think because it's a lot, it's a lot better to those 80s. I, this is what I'm saying.
And again, I love the movie, but I think it would have been even better for me if it was treatable like a black Christmas, like a serious 70s type slasher on Thanksgiving. I don't know. For some reason, I could see that working even better. Well, I don't think you could do that based on the source material because it was that can't be true commercial. Yeah, you're right. It was. It was making fun of all those late 70s, early 80s slasers that all revolved around the holiday, right?
Like Halloween, Friday, and April, fulls day. And the was the new year, the new year, whatever, black Christmas, you know, whether it's like 10 Christmas ones now this, at this point, for sure. And the catch phrases, it was like, sound like that'd be night and stuff. You know what I mean? That's like, do it. Absolutely. The wall will be carved, you know, so that's cool. It's a parody, but it also works as a, as it's a fun horror movie. Yes, it is.
I'm not going to, you know, when my mom comes over to my house for Thanksgiving, I'm going to pop it in. You know, the DVD player, anything. I'll wait till she goes home, but it gets a different, different terminology to Black Friday though. That's for sure, man. Nice. Very cool. Nice. Very happy to see that. Okay. My number two, I don't think you like it that much because you just were talking about not too long ago, but this is talk to me.
And I thought for sure this is going to remain my number one. And it did for such a long time and then something happened towards the end of the year. But I love the way it starts right off the bat. It hopes she in. I love the relationship between Mia and the brother and sister. I like the mother. I like the fact Mia's character and everything she's going through. I really, I'm into that whole thing.
I like that she went to the party with feeling a little, you know, uneasy, but then she actually volunteered to do it and then all the stuff that goes on. The look of them under the spell is great. The just, I don't know. It's just so creepy. And then one problem when she's going run, run, run, run. It just worked on me. And I was like, man, this shit, this is creepy stuff going on here. It has a moment. It has a moment for sure. Yeah. And ultimately, I love what goes on in the second half.
And when they start track again, mythology, I'm a big fan of mythology and trying to uncover. And of course, you don't need it in this. You don't know much. You just know that supposedly, you know, what they said it was. And it's just, it's almost like it follows. It's just kids talking and passing information around. And you don't really, there's no rules because this is the first time we dealt with it. And you also get to see teenagers react to things the way teenagers would.
So like when people criticize the movie like this or it follows, it seems to me that they're not putting that into their, they're not thinking about it. Like that's lost on them that these are teenagers and the way you think when you're a teen isn't, it's not necessarily logical in that way. I'm going to blow your mind right now because I don't like it follows either. Oh, it makes sense. See, there you go. If you don't like this, you, yeah, so I'm okay with that. Hey, man, it is what it is.
I just thought I mean, I just thought I do think the characters are really annoying. I'm around teenagers all the time and called and young college age kids. And I don't know, they're not that annoying. They annoy you, huh? Oh, no, no. Oh, good. In real life, they're not as annoying as the kids in this movie. Oh, I see what you're saying. You just didn't like the kids as portrayed. I didn't think there was any likeable characters in the film. You didn't like Mia?
You don't like the, or the brother really? I mean, I didn't think that their motivation made any sense. Whose motivation? Any of them with that hand. I thought I was all dispassion to that trick that that twist. Well, that's kid stuff. That's not what I hear you, but I just figured that that's kid stuff to do with. And Mia has all kinds of motivation. Yeah, there's some, there's some good moments in it. There's some great imagery in it for sure. And there's some tense moments.
It's not the void of any, it's not as bad as it follows to me. Okay. It wouldn't be on my list, but I didn't walk away from me. That was the worst movie of all time. No, I wouldn't think it would. But there's a lot of good gore through all the self-harm scenes that the Rylee kid does are great. Man, it hits me every time. Boom, boom, it just bang in his head. And it just works. Yeah. You know, that's hard to watch, right? Yeah. That's a little hard to watch.
Yeah. It's not hard to watch because they're hard to watch. That means it potent the motion in me. 100%. No, I'd, I'm down. And I like to see what the father didn't know exactly what was going on. And I don't know. See, this movie, I keep watching it. And I keep kind of figuring out more and more. But so I'm really, really happy that they went with the ending they went with though. It's my type of ending. You can interpret it different ways, I suppose. But it's right up my alley.
And I was getting so excited because I thought they were going to pull the rug off from under me because usually they do. And when I think I'm going to get the ending I want, they usually go all how they would style and, you know, it all ties up in a nice little bow. And when I get something else different, and they actually go there and they don't pull the rug off under me, it's just like boom, movies go up a full point when that happens. So, oh, yeah, that is full back.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Do you think it's well made in, you know, like the direction was good? Sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think it's well made. I don't know the direction was good just because I didn't think of the character like well, like I don't know that this guy actually knows many teenagers who directed it. But it, I don't know. For me, it didn't work. For me, it didn't work. It didn't work as well. It didn't work as well. There were, there were points that were effective.
Like I said, that, that scene with the kid banging his head. That was hard to watch. And there are certainly, you know, good aspects to it. It's just on my favorite. Right. I said direction, but I'm really leaning more towards production values. You know, I didn't think that. Yeah, I can't complain about production values for sure. Okay. Yeah, that's impressive. I really enjoy this. But anyway, talk to me one more left. One more left.
Here's the semi main event, kids, and I will tell you, my number one took me three times to get through. And here's the reason why it took me three times to get to not that that's a bad film. Just that it's subtitled. And the first two times I saw it, I'm like, I'm not, I can't do subtitles right now. I'm too tired. So I'm on my third viewing of it when I was able to do subtitles. And I do speak a little Spanish.
And as long time listeners of any of our podcasts know, I'm a fan of supernatural horror. So my number one film in the 2023 is actually an Argentinian horror film that we did kept around the podcast, but I wasn't on that show. And it is about possession in a small town. And it is called the when evil works. And I believe this is also on shutter at the moment. And I believe it is also my number one. So are you kidding me, really? No, yeah, it is. Yeah. It's the main event. Who expected that?
Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. So I love this movie because it does not hold anything back. It goes for it. It is gruesome. It's not pulling punches. There is one scene with a possessed mother and her child that I was just like, cool. He shit, what is happening here? And every character just ends up being sort of diabolical. My only, I have one minor gripe with the film. And that's just I don't understand the pattern of the demon.
And that could be fixed, maybe upon a rewatch or maybe that was their intention to keep it ambiguous like that. But I think this, again, this was another situation where I watched the film in the dark, I'm by myself in my house and that just the ambiance of that mixed with the total chaos that was happening on my screen. And I'll tell you what, also, I also appreciated the fact that it wasn't a traditional family, right?
So it was a guy who was divorced from his wife, who was the mother of his children, and actually had a restraining order against him. And her, so the wife and then her new husband and even one of the, a child she'd had with the new husband. So I enjoyed the fact that it was in the traditional family and they had kind of a hedge witch character in there who kind of knew more about the possessions that were the next position type of person for us.
But like everyone else in the film, for the most part, they all came to some sort of gruesome ending as some of which I really enjoyed as well. So much fun. I mean, see, to me, this is fun. How's that? Yeah, to me, this was, this was head and shoulders above everything else I watched. Oh, yeah, it's, I just showed it to my friends three weeks ago too. I was like, I can't believe I haven't shown you guys this yet. I have love, I saw it at the theater. I loved it right away.
And then I've seen it like, I don't know, probably three or four times since. I don't know if this will happen. I don't know if there's a drop in the media, but I would love to have it on physical media. Oh, I would totally buy it. There's no question. Yeah. It's, you know, all the killing stuff and all the stuff that you were saying, like, you know, the first thing we see with an axe and the thing we seen with a child later.
And then there was like legitimate like three things that made me jump in the first like half an hour. That doesn't usually happen just like jaw-dropping type stuff. And it's not a jump scare type movie or anything like that. It's, it's horror the way it's supposed to be. It's evil is present. In this world, we're dropped into this world. And evil is just present and people can just be possessed and churches are dead now.
And it's just, it's a post, it's not a post apocalyptic world, but it's, I don't know, it's set in a different time period, I guess. And it's, you know, where these things really go on. And they talk about, you know, possessed ones. And have you ever seen one that we, I saw one in the city once or whatever. So it's like, it's so cool that we're just dropped into a world like this. And we just, you know, you get the seven rules and everything else and everything about the traditional family.
It works because we're, we're really with the main character from most of the movie. And you want to make him sympathetic and he's just human. You can see that he has some things have happened in his past and he's had some stress and some other things. But everyone's a shade, shade's a gray man. I, I love that we just don't have don't, any type of character in this movie that's just, you know what I mean? I mean, besides children, but you know what I mean? Everyone has like a little children.
Oh, the children are not spared. An edge. No, no, not spared. No, no, it's, it's great. Everyone is an animals. Everyone is affected. And like we mentioned, when we were just, we were just now discussing, talked to me with, there are several scenes in here that are hard to watch. There's one person who has become rotten who I didn't even want to look at anymore. Or man, at various points in the film, you know? Oh, the makeup effects, man, they're great, huh?
I, listen, I was super impressed by the special effects in general. And this one, I don't know if that's because I really haven't, I don't even know if I've ever seen another Argentinean horror film. So I don't know what kind of budgets they have there. I don't know if this is a little budget. I'm watching this on, on Shutter, you know? So it could be, it could be something some of my shot on their phone or it could be something that's got a few more dollars behind it.
I knew very little about this going in. Have you seen the other movie he did? Damien Rugna, he did, um, terrified. Have you seen terrified? No, I had not, but since he did it, I definitely want to see it because now that I love this movie so much that he's on my list, like he's going to be a guy that I'm going to follow his career, right? Whenever he puts on a movie, I'm going to go watch it. Yeah, terrified. It's great. Watch it.
Because he did a such a great job with this film pulled no punches. If you want this thick, dark horror in your life of a supernatural variety, a supernatural variety that also presents itself in some very physical ways. So it's not like you're seeing a ghost in the mirror when you when you shut the mirror in the bathroom. Like this is a spirit. It's possessing people. It's making these people do some very horrific things to themselves and to others.
Yeah. How about to see what the mother or son? That's what I'm saying. There were times I was watching this film and I was just like, well, why can't I believe they went there? I know. Do they not do they not have souls in the Argentina? I don't know. I've never been to them. In the ending and what have everything that happens? Man, the movie, the reveals in the end and all it all. It all and people.
I've heard a few people complain saying complaining about some of the decisions that the lead made. And you know, I can't stand when people do that because we're only human and you're in stressed out conditions. I just to me, things happen. People freaking think they freak out and they panic, especially when they're the only one that's doing what they're supposed to be doing and they may do things, you know, just in the moment, there's fear, there's panic. There's so many things going on.
There's so much investment. The guy's probably been awake for two days. You know what I mean? It's just, I don't know. Honestly, I like when those things happen. The dark end. Real life to me. Yeah. And the dark end to the end of this film moves so quickly. It's more of a fast zombie than a slow zombie, right? Slow zombie, you can strategize fast zombie. You're just react. And that's kind of what this is. Things are moving so quickly.
You're just reacting to survive with you and your children and as many people as you can save. My only minor complaint, I guess that this could be fixed with a rewatch. I will definitely rewatch this. How the entity possesses people or the town or whatever is sort of ambiguous. There's not a lot of rules there. Maybe that's on purpose. So rewatch it. We'll figure it out. And this was, I mean, number one with the bullet, right? There was no choice for me when I watched this.
And I watched this late in the year. I watched this after you guys did the review of, um, okay. Yeah, because it came out relatively late and I didn't listen to the review. So I didn't know a lot going in other than the first couple of times I watched them. I'm like, I'm not, I can't do subtitles right now. I have to come back to this. But I'm so glad that I did. Yeah. You should go back and listen to that episode now because I remember that we got in deep on a couple of things.
You might appreciate that one. Yeah. Absolutely. I will. And I will follow the career of a Damian Ragnar from here on out. So I was so impressed with the film and I'll watch terrified as well. Yeah. I like that too. So good that it is both Dave Zeynay's number one movie. And I'm curious. We don't know the other guys lists when we're recording this, right? So I'm curious as to if it's anyone else's number one. I guess I would say yes. I guess we'll have to listen to the other.
Shit, the other podcasts covering the top 10 movies of 2023, starring some of our fellow horror Avengers to find out. You've heard them because I believe we're going to be the last ones to go on. So you probably already know if you're if you're listening. But there you go. One evil lurks. My number one Dave Z's number one. So four Dave Z and four all the other horror Avengers.
Thank you for listening to J of the Dead's new horror movie, The Podcast where we will carry you around and eat your brains while we're doing so. Little yellow, yo, yo, rolls my world. Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, made me punch that squirrel. I'm against a tree. Now it's dead. We. Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, you're so bad. Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, made me push my dad into that fat of Morton Steel. We. Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, makes demons.
Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, make me glue my hand onto this heart. I'm crying in the old. Little yellow, yo, yo, yo, runs my life. Little yellow, yo, yo, make me punch my wings. I'm getting the Baylor Brace. He seems strong. He. Please don't misuse the Baylor. Original song that I wrote back in 1996. I just updated the lyrics a little bit for our purposes. Top 10 Horror List Statistical Recap. I had a lot of fun hearing from you all on Twitter. I hope to get it ready for this anniversary.
But last October is my busiest month in podcasting. But to celebrate SkyNet and Artificial Intelligence, I have once again used my old friend ChatGPT, the one who has been the one, yeah. The thing, the it that has been assisting me with the artwork for these episodes of late. And I had it look at our 2023 top 10 list data. And that was for 11 lists. We had nine horror Avengers. We had a horror Avenger in training spawn of the dead.
And then we had our official contributor, Kagan, the fruit, root, brighten box. And upon entering all of that information into the AI, here's what I got. Top 10 Horror Movies of 2023 list based on weighted rankings from the 11 list, which is if the film was in first place, it got 10 points, film in second place got 9 points, etc. So I had it add all that up. Here is the collective list that comes from all 11 of our list.
There is a tie for first place, the number one horror movie, even though we don't allow ties. The AI doesn't know that. I'll let it slide because these two films had the exact same number of points, 57 points. And that was when evil lurks and Thanksgiving side note, the most commonly occurring horror film on our lists was when evil lurks. Because it was included on nine of the 11 lists. That's right. And then number two was Evil Dead Rise with 52 points. Three was Talk to Me with 48 points.
Four was Godzilla minus one with 39 points. Little surprising, right, that Godzilla minus one is beneath Talk to Me? Just saying. Number five, no one will save you 31 points. Number six, Saw 10. 28 points. Number seven, Infinity Pool with 24 points. Number eight, Blood, 17 points. Damn right. Number nine, Cobweb with 17 points. Cobweb, just kidding. And number 10 is Totally Killer with 16 points.
Another thing that the AI produced and by the way, while I can prompt it to give statistics, I did not influence its answers just so you know just for the record. It commented on unique preferences of hosts and it reads, some hosts demonstrated distinctive tastes. For example, Maculous List had a preference for creature and monster films like Godzilla minus one and the Meg to the trench.
While the fruit brute included titles like Birth Rebirth, leaning toward more niche selections or if you prefer niche. Host lists that most closely aligned to each other. These pairs indicate a strong overlap in the horror preferences for 2023. So we had Dave Z and Dr. Shock and then we also had Greg Mortis and Dr. Shock. And then we had once again as with 2022, Mr. Watson and Jay of the Dead. And also, much to my chagrin, Jay of the Dead and Gilman Joel.
I do not implicate myself as I report the news like any good newspaper man I am not trying to become the news. The hosts who included Skinner Meringue in their top 10 lists are Ron Martin and Gilman Joel, with Ron Martin having it highest on his list. So interestingly, Gilman Joel, this is what Chagy B.D said, Gilman Joel also included Megan and Skinner Meringue films that polarized audiences for their unique styles. So that was super funny to me, just want to point that out.
Of all the grief I've got in the past year over Megan, it was not on my top 10 list, but it was on Joel's. Now, the host whose list most closely matched the collective top 10 is Jay of the Dead, with eight out of his ten selections appearing in the collective list. The host whose list was the most different from the collective top 10 is Maccola, with only two of his picks appearing in the collective list.
Further, it reads, Jay of the Dead's list most closely aligns with the mainstream consensus for popular horror movies of 2023. Here's why. High overlap with the collective list as we already stated there, and Jay's list included widely praised films. They were heavily discussed across major horror movie rankings and online lists, that it frequently appeared on best of lists, and then there is a broad genre representation.
Jay's list encapsulates a variety of horror sub-genres from supernatural and slasher to psychological horror, aligning with popular taste, blah blah blah, etc. etc. Therefore, Jay of the Dead's list seems to capture both the collective podcast favorites, and align closely with broader popular rankings from 2023. Just saying, what can I do? You know, my T800, that's what Arnold is saying. Okay, finally, because I know people are really done with this by now.
I wrote a prompt, and that's the thing about this if you've never used it. The better your prompts, the better information you get, so I put, which host should be spanked for his list, and which other host should do the spanking? In chat, GVT wrote, if there's one host who might get a playful spanking for having a list that diverges from mainstream and collective consensus, it would be macula. Sorry, Mac, what am I gonna do? It knows you hate it, Mac, that's what it is.
And it points out how he only had two films that overlap. And then it says, as for the host who should deliver the spanking, Jay of the Dead would be a fitting choice. I seriously don't know why. It just said, because of my aligning most closely with mainstream, so I guess it gave me that opportunity. But I will pass it along to anyone else who was not mentioned once again, poor, poor Greg amortis.
It's like, I don't know, we did have a mention of Greg though, and his alignment with Dr. Schox list. So it's not like he was completely forgotten. But this time, we did not have mentions of Dr. Walking Dead, who last time in 2022 had the most matches with the collective list. So slip in a little bit there, Kyle. Anyways, I know it's dumb. I can't help it. It's way easier now. I used to spend a week tallying information, putting together collective lists based on all of our input.
And I just about lost my mind a few years in a row on horror movie podcasts. But now it's much easier. So thank you for indulging us. I hope people enjoyed it. And thank you for listening to this episode. This concludes our very special Halloween content of our top 10 horror movies of 2023 series. Okay. So that wraps that up because now you've heard all 11 lists. We hope you've enjoyed these. And it's almost time for our 2024 lists.
I've been thinking about that and just trying to figure out the most efficient way to get our lists out to you more quickly with all these hosts. So we get a few ideas. I wish we could all be on one recording. But when you have nine hosts on one recording, especially going through 90 movies. Plus, I like to incorporate Kagan. I really appreciate our official contributor with his top 10 list. So that's 10. And then of course spawn of the dead is addicted now.
He is totally all about making the top 10 list. He's already working on his 2024 list, which makes me very proud. The other day he texted me and said, Dad, how many more 2024 horror movies do you think I can watch before the end of the year? And I just about teared up. I was so proud. Anyways, so that concludes this episode. We hope you've had a good time. I sure have. This has been fun. I want to thank Ron Martin and Dave Z for their exceptional top 10 list.
And I want to thank all of the participants who gave us these great lists this time. These were five really fun episodes. I enjoyed immensely listening to them and putting them out. So really proud of this content. We hope the listeners who won the free horror blu-rays. We hope you enjoy your gifts. And remember to just email me at hauntingyourheadphones at gmail.com to send me your mailing address.
And we'll get those out to you. Watch your feed over the next few days because we still have a week left of October. And I'm trying something very, very ambitious for the remainder of October. So keep your eyes peeled. And hopefully I can pull something together here that I'm trying to execute on behalf of all of us, the horror Avengers. So I hope you'll get to see what we've got in store for you. Because it's great content. Really excited to bring it to you.
But anyways, I think that's just about it. So on behalf of Dave, Dr. Shock Becker, the Gilman, Joel Robertson, Mr. Watson, Dr. Lockingdead, Kyle Bishop, the Southern gentleman Greg Immortis, count Maccula, Ron Martin, and Dave Z, as well as, the horror-adventuring training spawn of the dead and our official contributor, the Fruit Brute, Kagan Brighton Box.
We all want to wish you a happy Halloween. And thank you for listening to Jay of the Dead's new horror movies, where we love horror movies as much as you do. Thank you.