You are listening to a Halloween special from Jay of the Dead's New Horror Movies. Hi and Happy Halloween this month and welcome to Jay of the Dead's New Horror Movies, the gold standard of horror movie podcasts. This episode right here constitutes the very first of our Halloween special content for October 2024. You may have noticed, you may not have noticed. We try to put out some special content, some extra content and this is the beginning.
I'm your host Jay of the Dead and I'm podcasting from Pleasant Grove, Utah and momentarily, this particular episode will be completely taken over by two of my best friends to horror Avengers and those are Dave, Dr. Shock Becker and the Gillman Joel Robertson. That's right. Part of our Halloween content is we are finally going to bring you our Top 10 Horror Movies of 2023.
Yes, last year's list, finally coming at you and this year we're doing a little bit differently where you will hear two of our co-hosts recording their entire Top 10 list together at a time. Across five different episodes except one of those episodes will also have two special surprise guests.
So without further delay, I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Shock and Gillman Joel and in the meantime, I just want to wish you once again a happy Halloween from the horror Avengers here and as always, we all thank you for listening to Jay of the Dead's new Horror Movies, the Ultimate Horror Podcast. All right, Gillman Joel and Dave, Dr. Shock Becker here with our Top 10 of 2023 and I'm going to kick it over to the great legendary doc for his number 10. Well, thank you, sir.
And it's great to be recording this with you when Jason out the lineups are like, oh, it's awesome because we were just saying I don't know when the last time was. It was just you and I talking. It's been a minute on a podcast. It's been a while. Yes. So anyway, my number 10 is actually, it's ironic. It's the 10th entry in a series. It's all X. I really like this one. I like the fact that Tobin Bell sort of it shows him having hope.
He seems so, so, so sullen in most of the movies and just accepting of his fate in this one. We get to see him. Hey, he has a little hope that he might be able to find a cure and then it gets taken away from him. You get the feeling this one's this one's definitely more in revenge mode where he's sort of maybe hoping they don't meet his challenge and just end up, you know, kaput. But I really like this one. I thought it was, I thought it brought back the gore.
And it had a very dislikable villain in this one. And I'm trying to see who played. Oh, yeah, the play that character, the doctor and all that. Yes, I don't know. I don't know. It was the Cecilia Peterson. I think it was. That sounds right. Sonovie McCody Lund. Yeah. Yeah, she was, she was, she was great in this. And that's my number 10. And Mr. Gilman, what is your number 10? Well, I, I think SawX is an excellent pick.
I can neither confirm her deny whether or not it will show up again in this list. But my number 10 is a movie that had to be in my top 10, just in general principle. I caught the play to putting it in like in my top three, just to be obnoxious, but it, but that would have only worked if Jay had been here. I think you know where I'm going with this. I think I know where you're going. But it had to be my number 10 is Skinner Marie Knenk Skinner Marie Knenu. Yes. I number 10 is Skinner Marie Knenu.
And this is, look, a lot of my top, I first of I don't really have, I went, I was going through like the list of the movies from 2023. I'm like, wow, there's a lot of crap here. I still haven't seen. But also a lot that I really didn't care about. So this movie though for me, and I think I said this ad nauseam in the, the, please refer to the previous back and forth between me and Jay on this movie.
But the reason why I acknowledge all the complaints about this movie, like I don't think anything, anything anybody who hates this movie said is wrong. But for me, because I'm a fan of analog horror and because I just went into this number one expecting an art house experimental film, I think if you didn't, you would be greatly p-oed. Right. But I think it was just that it did something different.
And the fact that the filmmaker, a college would ball had, no pun intended, the balls to, to make this movie and really commit to what he was going for. I think there's never a moment where it breaks from the Nightmares quality. And I will say, I have not revisited this movie since. And that's why honestly, it didn't go up higher on my list because it's a movie that I, you know, I liked it a lot. I saw it, it affected me. I liked that it was so different than anything I had seen.
But I also realized its rewatchability is extraordinarily minimal. So it's more of an art piece. It's something like almost more like you would put up on your TV on a flat screen and just have it playing in the background like a, a art piece that's in movement, like a painting that's, you know, moving. And instead of something you sit down and watch because of the story or whatever. So because obviously it's a really isn't one. But there is a video that I can't recall the top of my head.
Jay knows what it is. It's up to him if you want to put in the show notes where somebody broke down what this movie really is and what it's about. I don't want to give it away. But I will say it redefines everything for you. And it makes it stronger because it's even darker. But that said, my number 10 is Skinner, Mariek because of course I had to put it in my top 10. And Dave, what is your number nine? All right.
Well, first off with Skinner, Mariek, let me just say that it's kind of interesting because I was middle of the road with it. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't loathe it like people did. I didn't love it like yourself. And actually Jackson Rawlings, one of the most interesting top tens that father and son love horror have ever done was this past one because Jackson put it on his top 10 and Matt should just about swallow this tongue.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're the unusual one because you put it in the middle. I think most people either love it like me for the reasons like I said, right? Or Jackson for his reason. Yes. Or you hate it. Which honestly, there's something to be said for that, right? Like a movie that's so polarizing. That's sort of reaction. Yeah. When Terry Gilliam released Fair and Lovelin Las Vegas, he said, I wanted to be seen as the greatest movie that ever made or one of the worst movies ever made.
There you go. Ellie, you know what? You're swinging for the fences, man. That's great. So what's your number nine, Doc? My number nine is one that Jay had predicted would make my top 10 and it did just down at number nine, but I really enjoyed it. It's Fanfield. Okay. I really enjoyed this one. I thought it was a lot of fun and it is. It's comedy and action, but it does have arts. It's a vampire movie because and it has Nick Cage as Dracula. Yes, which is cool.
And he has some funny scenes in this. He is so good in this. Nicholas Holt was great as Renfield as well. And I liked him, but you know, this, when I think of this movie, I think of the scenes with Nick Cage as Dracula, especially when he visits Renfield with the apartment after I had not seen him for a while. He gets so sarcastic with him. Yeah. Yeah. I love that scene. I love that scene. It's a lot of fun and it's gory as hell. It's just a blast.
So yeah, that's my number nine Renfield and Mr. Gilman, your number nine. Well, I will say as far as Renfield goes, I still haven't seen it. And it's one of the ways. But it's on my short list and it's because when it came, when I saw the trailer for the movie, I was like, other than Nick Cage, I was like, eh, it looked like. Let me tell you something. I think, I think this is when you're really going to be right. I think you're probably right based on everything you just said.
And based on the other things I've heard, being that I am a fan of like that more horror comedy kind of over the top wacky vibe, I think I probably will like it. I just think at the time, maybe it was the trailer or something. And because they played the trailer a lot too, I seem to remember. And the trailer kind of focused on this help group that Renfield had gone to. Yes. I mean, maybe 15 to 20 minutes for the whole movie. Got it. Yeah, I definitely felt like that was going to be a lot of it.
And so I just didn't. Yeah, maybe I'll get to it eventually. But then you and then Greg of all people seemed to really dig it. I was like, okay, maybe I need to check myself. And I will be anxious to hear your thoughts on this. Yeah, I will definitely see it. I have a, that was one of the ones when I was going through my list. I was like, you know, I really wish I got into this one in time because I have a feeling that that one would have ended up on my top 10, just based on what I've heard.
Now, who knows, you never know. It could have. Yeah, although I'm guessing it wouldn't have been Skidna Marek get dropped off just because you're insistent on keeping them. Yeah, no, but there were a few other where I liked them a lot. Like most of my picks are like for me like a seven or higher. But there, but there are some that it's like when I rewatch them, the rewatchability factor is something like that is something. My top 10 is a little different.
Like I could put them, I could have moved my rate of nine. Like Skidna Marek almost didn't make it. It's just the fact because I don't know how rewatchable it is. That's why it's my number 10. Right. But yeah, so.
So my number nine though is a movie that I'm still I saw once I'm still torn about because I loved this director's first film so much and you I you I know did Dave I would as soon as I say this title, you're going to know what it is and you know, you're going to agree with that that statement. However, it affected me, but I think I saw it in the theater.
I saw completely was like I was completely by myself and I it didn't freak me out as much as I was hoping it would because of what that first film was and that's not fair to him to compare it to the first film, but it is still a great movie. My number nine is Winnevalerks. Oh, okay. By. It was a Damien Ragnar. Is that your pronounce it? I might be. Yeah, but he did terrify. Terrify which I loved terrifying like you did. I absolutely loved it. Loved it. Loved it.
I think it was probably the most amazingly creative films. Yes. Yes. Ever and with images that you just can't. And Winnevalerks has elements of that as well. Yes. I don't know what it was. And I do want to revisit it. And the fact that I want to revisit it tells me that it probably should be in my top day because again, a lot of modern movies. I'm like, okay, I saw it. It was a thing. It happened. I saw it. I really liked it. And I'm moving on.
Yeah, but there's things in this movie that there is a couple key moments. Let's just say doggy related that are jacked up. Oh, yeah. So there's a couple thing. It has a couple of those movies. But for whatever reason, terrified, got under my skin way more than Winnevalerks did. That being said, I still could see the quality of the film. And so for me, it's my number nine. All right, doc. Number eight. All right. My number eight is a movie that I think actually improved.
It's a sequel that I think actually improved on the original. And it is Wrath of Becky. Okay. I should have seen that one, but yeah, okay. I liked this one so much. Lulu Wilson returns as Becky. I like the first Becky. I thought the first Becky was a lot of was a good movie. I loved Becky actually. Yeah, it was it was really good. But I think this one was even better. And you know how you we it had Kevin James in the first one. Yep. And sort of the cheap bad guy. This one has Sean William Scott.
And boy, can he play a bastard? Well, well, got me. Wasn't he a stifler? Yes. He was stifler. Yes. But there's a very different sort of character. Got it. Okay. Okay. But this and this one, it does have sort of, I'd say it's a very modern story. Yeah. I don't want to go too deep into it. I want people to see this one. Okay. But I this I really like this and this one more than like when I saw the first Becky, I wasn't clamoring for a sequel. This one I hope they do a third one.
Okay. From from the way it ended, I hope they do a third one. Okay. And that is my number eight. So Gilman, what is your number eight? Well, I will say this. I really this again, both this and Renfield, the fact that you put these in your top 10, I'm not going to lie. I started to want to, I put Rathabek here on my cue because I love the first one. Freakin' loved it. But I think just due to the inundation of movies we've gotten with the, let's just say hashtag Girl Boss Vibes.
I kind of got those vibes off of it and I'm like, oh, because I really love the first one. And I want my, you don't mind a strong female protagonist, obviously. I just want her to be flawed and to be interesting. And you know what I mean? I felt like were they going to, was it going to go in a direction where they had to, you know what I mean? You get where I'm going with this? I want, I know what you're saying. Yes. I understand what you're saying. And that's one of the things I was alluding.
That's why I said it's a very modern story. Okay. So, so, so, so if you're going knowing that though, I still think you're going to, I still think you're going to really, really enjoy it. Okay. This is why I'm not sure. I think Renfield would make your top 10. I'm not quite sure. Okay. Rathabekie would, but I think you would enjoy it. Well, I could say this.
I don't think there's ever been a situation where you've had a top 10 list where there wasn't a movie on that I wouldn't at least like watch. Okay. Well, very cool. So, so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, so the fact that you, like if you hadn't even mentioned it, then it would have never even like, but the fact that you've said, oh no, for me, it's, now mate, you're right. It may not be on my top 10, but it may end up being where I liked it more than I thought it would.
Yes. And it would be, but for you to recommend it, I'm like, okay, well, I'll always give it a shot. Absolutely. I really, really enjoyed this one. And amazingly, I have this on DVD. It is not, at least last time, but I checked. It was not on Blu-ray or 4K. It was only on DVD. That's interesting. Okay. Yeah, which is a very interesting choice. Okay. But you know, hey, at least you got a physical media release. Exactly. I think it. All right. So, my number eight was actually this one.
And when Evil Lurks is obviously a much better film, I acknowledge that, but this movie I had more fun with. And I think because I was so pleasantly surprised by how much fun I had with this freaking movie. And I took my family. We went to see this. She said it's a family film. And it was SawX. No, I'm just kidding. It was Megan, Mathrigan. Oh. I freaking was shocked by how much I enjoyed this freaking movie because it's ridiculous. You know what it is?
It has like 90s horror thriller vibes to me or early 2000s, you know, or a movie. And maybe I know it's a kind of maybe a weird parallel, but maybe it's just the little girl thing. And you remember Orphid, which was I didn't see till years later, but I loved it when I finally saw it. And Megan again, I was just pleasantly surprised at the story, how much fun it was. I loved the writing. I loved the main, the character and actually the, the Alison Williams, who was of course in Get Out.
You know, again, that's an example of like this character really well written and she's flawed. And you know, and I love the fact that it, it was about that classic, true story. And I love the intro of, you know, science gone wrong. I think, oh, they're trying to prove it. Thanks for the future. And it just, you know, they were so busy thinking they could. They didn't stop. They didn't stop. They should. And yeah.
And I just, and then of course, the performance by what I'm just going to make sure I get her name right. Amy dobbled the one who played Megan because it was fantastic. Like just, there's just so many great moments in the movie. So that for me, it's my number eight. And it's Mathregan. What is your number seven doc? I number seven and real quick. I will just say that I have a three game on Blu-ray and I have not seen it yet. Oh, really? I have not seen Megan yet. I think you did.
It's a fun movie. Like go in. It's a movie that came out January. That's your thing. You came out January like the first tour movie of the year last year, which was of course the other reason I was like, oh God. Yes. Oh, yeah. When it, yeah. It's usually the dumping. Oh, yeah. It's my birthday month, too, man. You know, I'm a set sucks like every year. Birthday month is like usually the worst frickin movies they can. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Now Cloverfield changed that up by releasing a January.
Yeah, there've been some. There have been a few here and there. But yes, but Megan was such a. And of course, it was a time that Marvel could release it. They could release it on. You know, yeah, well, that's good. I'm anxious. I'm anxious to see it. The only thing I know about it are all those creepy texts from Jay. Yeah. Yeah. That's a whole other discussion. We'll move on to number seven. What is your number seven? My number seven is Evil Dead Rise. All right. I'm evil dead is one of my.
The first evil dead 82 is one of my all time favorite horror films. I love evil dead too. I love army at darkness. I love to the remake. Ash versus evil dead was an amazing series. I wish they made another season of that. So I love everything about evil dead. And this one though takes it into different directions. This is like evil dead loose in an apartment complex. Every other one, they're in the middle of the woods.
So there's only a select number of people who are going to be affected by this or who could possibly be affected by this. Yeah. This one says, let's let it loose. You know, it's like when Jason went to Manhattan and decided to take a tour. In this one there, there was the possibility like all these other people are going to get pulled into it and you see that. And it's still had that creepiness, that possession creepiness that you got from the first evil dead. I really like it.
This is one of the ones I wrote. This is probably of the ones on my list, even though it's at number seven, the one that I'm dying to rewatch the most. Because it's this is my, it's been a while since I've seen this. I saw it on the, in the, in the big screen was the last time I saw it. And I'm really anxious to see it again. So yep, my number seven evil dead rise and, uh, you'll man, what is your number seven?
I'm not going to say anything about evil dead rise yet because let's just say that may come up again. Okay. Yes. Fair enough. My number seven is talk to me, the, yeah, the A24 movie. And, uh, it, honestly, again, it was what I went into knowing just minimal about just it was this kind of low budget. I believe Australian movie. Yes. Yeah. And I just, I, you know, it's funny because I didn't know that the directors were like YouTubers and they did, you know, did all this other stuff.
I had no do, no idea of any of that stuff. I just went in completely cold and I had just a fun time with it. And there's, there's a couple of moments that are just brutal. I love where it goes. Now did you get to see this? I did. Yes. Okay. Yes. It's a really cool movie. It's very interesting, um, uh, with, um, uh, the, the, the way that the characters, yes. I think, you know, I, and, uh, Ryan Martin had knocked it because he said, though, but he's likable in it. I don't agree.
I think the lead is likable, except when she's in that group. Yes. And this, that's really what this movie's talking about is that when these kids, these kids get in these groups, they do dumb stuff. Of course they do. Yeah. Let's remember what it was like to be a teenager, right? Yeah. And, and they want to belong. They want to be part of that group for one reason or another and they do dumb stuff. I happened to really like the lead character. Yeah. I did too. Actually, I liked her a lot.
And I like, I like where the movie goes. I, I liked the ending, um, then it kind of went there. Mm. Yes. Exactly. And I just, yeah, I just thought it was a fun, again, a fun, that's a common theme. With pretty much, I think most of my picks, I just had fun with them. Yes. Except for Skinner Marie, if I'm being honest, it's not really a fun movie person, but yeah, that's not a popcorn movie. Not at all. It might be one of the few where you're going to talk about that's not a popcorn. Exactly.
But, but yeah, but talk to me was just a fun movie. I had a good time with it. It's one that I would be willing to watch again. It's up on it again. That's sort of my own personal criteria. Like, is this something I would own and or want to watch ever again? Absolutely. You know, that kind of thing. Talk to me, my number seven, what is your number six, Dave? My number six, and I love this movie.
And I hate that it's this low on the list, but I just look at it and I didn't have, I couldn't put it higher than the one that are my five to one. But it is Eli Ross Thanksgiving. Okay. What an amazingly fun movie. And I think I said it will, I talked about it. Kim and Fritz on Land of the Creeps on J, J the dead, that this plays like the remake of the trailer from Brian. Yes, exactly. You know, the people went in and think, oh, they wanted the grittiness.
No, and Eli Ross, Eli Ross was on record as saying, I could never make that trailer into a movie because it was nothing there. It was just, you know, random things that for like this, this horror movie, there was nothing really. There he goes, I had to develop it more. Yeah. And he did that. So this is like, you know, this is the 2003 Texas Chainsaw Massacre, two of the 74 Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
This is the modern remake of what that trailer might have been, had it been released in the late 70s, early 80s. Yeah. That doesn't bring away a put in it. And I think that it is an excellent, excellent. It's going to be a franchise. He's making another one and I can't wait to see the next one. And I hope it does become a franchise every couple years. We get a new one for a while until he goes to Manhattan. Then they might want to cut it off. And then stop. Yeah, then just stop.
The Macy's Day Parade. One. Yes. Right. The Macy's Day Parade. But then so we finally have gotten, because for a long time, it was like the best thing to watch a Thanksgiving is the trailer for Thanksgiving. Yeah. Now we actually have a movie that we can watch every Thanksgiving. Yes. All right. So, Gilman, what is your number six? Well, you've already said it. It's SawX. Oh, nice. Yeah. So X is my number six. All the reasons you said, you know, we had just finished up our insane rewatch.
Well, for you and me, first time watch of the entire Saw franchise leading into this movie. So, you know, it tells me how strong this movie really was for me because I would have thought after going through all the Saw movies and which, a mini of which I think you and I both were pleasantly surprised by how much you liked. Yes. Absolutely.
I was very pleasantly surprised except that stupid one where they got on the guy for shooting them when they were getting hung or shooting the girl when they were hanging from the rope. That's probably the worst of all. Was that, was that my own member? Was that my own number? Was that the last one? No, no, no. Spiral was one with Chris wrong. Yeah, that's right. And I know you really disliked that. I just hated it, man. It was so bad. It didn't bother me as much about you.
I think it was something for maybe it was eight. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eight, I think I didn't like, but it was not as much a spiral. Like, eight would have been my worst and then I watched spiral. And I was like, oh, yeah, I watched spiral. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. But yeah, one through even seven, I did. But yeah, I remember there was just some that I really liked. And then six, a specific that I remember loving. Yeah. Six and three. And three.
Yeah, they were all those were really great. It might be my favorite of them all, even more than one. Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. But so for X to be, because it felt similar, but it felt like it's own thing. I loved Tobin Bell's character, the way he put it. They just, you really felt for the guy. You know, I mean, it was, it was really well done. It was a really, it's an interesting character arc from that first saw movie to 10.
And I'm sure of it in, you know, in hell of M. Shrieve and Tobin Bell, you know, it's going to happen all of us passes in real life. I mean, guys, what 81 now or something. But even if he lives for a few more years, I'm sure they'll keep trying to turn these out. I wish they wouldn't, because to me, one through, yeah, you got a couple bumps along the way. But from saw to saw X, it's just such a great little encapsulation. It's sort of like Rocky, you're Rocky Balboa, right?
Just don't, yeah, you got Rocky five in there, whatever. But, you know, you got this great little way of ending it. Just please don't. But that being said, saw X for me. That was my number six. Awesome. And you know what? I got real quick. I didn't tell the story about my viewing of Saul Axe. I saw it in the theater. And I was in there with two girls who were probably in their late teens, two early 20s. I think one was late teen one was early 20s. I think they were sisters.
We were the only three in the theater that night, which was a little depressing. I would have liked to have had a few more people in there. But they got up and like left after or went out after 10 minutes, the both of them. I think, oh, God, I guess they didn't realize what they were getting into. Well, they both ended up coming back. And I thought they were, they were chatting all through the trailers. And I thought they never shut up.
They shut up once the movie was going and they didn't say anything. And what was really cool is there's a little thing that happens in the stinger at the very end. Yeah. And they both started cheering wildly. That's so cool. Yeah. It's so cool that these, that they're fans of this series. Yeah. Yeah, that is cool. Well, it warms your heart. Yes. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. All right, Jay of the dead here jumping in in the middle of this top 10 countdown.
And I happen to be with the Gilman Joel Robertson. And we're sure. We're sure. Number one, congrats. You're doing your, you're very own top 10 countdown this year. Does it feel good? I finally, did you feel left out last year? And that's why you're doing it this year? No, no, I think I've already made this well known. I'm not a fan of top anything. I mean, I used to, you know, I fuck you away. Like what I think, what I feel.
So I sometimes feel like, especially as I get older, there's fewer, fewer movies I would put into any kind of top 10. So a top like three, it's my speed, but I was like, you know what? I want to step up to the plate. I want to be a part of this. So I'm happy I could be a part of it this year. Well, we're still friends. You and I are still friends because I haven't heard your count down yet. So I don't know if skittimer rank falls in there anywhere.
But, but I just want to ask you, we're halfway through. I haven't heard the list, you're with Dr. Shock on this, how you feeling about the count down so far? I'm feeling good, Jay. I'm feeling good. I feel like I may have a little bit of an advantage on Doc Shock because I'm so much younger than he is. So I'm a little bit more spray, a little bit more, you know, but what about his one? I hear he has a big one. He's got a big one. Yeah. Yeah. So what we're going to do about his big one.
His big one, I think I'm going to counter it with maybe even a slightly bigger one. But we don't know. It remains to be seen. It remains to be seen. All right. Well, maybe we'll get lucky and see it. Okay. Anyway, we got we got prize giveaways because I enjoyed doing that so much 14 years ago when we did the whatever year. 22 list. 22 list. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was about 14 years ago. Yeah. Okay. I enjoyed doing it so much. I'm like, you know what?
Even though Joel's participating, he and I should just do this little prize giveaway again because it was really fun. Yep. So what do we got? Well, don't forget, well, first off, Jay, we got to start with the rules. To win. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's important. It's important. You got to be 18 years or older kids and sorry, you must live in the US. Yes. It's not us being weirdly like xenophobic or anything. It just is what it is. Well, yeah, shipping costs mainly.
Yes. Yes. And when he says you got to be 18 years or older kids, kids is just, you know, figurative. Yeah. Yes. Okay. First prize. Well, we got we have what is literally the biggest. One just literally because of who stars it and that's Godzilla minus one. And the winner is drum roll, please. Libby. Yes. Libby and Libby, you got to know you got to know, okay, this is a blue ray. And by the way, it is pre ordered. This may not help you much, but it doesn't release until November 19th.
So in seven months from now, you know, enjoy, enjoy your prize when you get that. All right, so Jay, is there something else you've got to wait in the wings? You know, we're doing something very special this year. This is kind of a surprise for our co-hosts who have no idea this is happening. We are doing a host giveaway. Interesting. Yes. That doesn't seem remotely self-serving or corrupt in any way, shape or form. I know.
I mean, if you're not going to see Jay, you're not taking, you know, you're the opportunity to like, you know, tax write off or anything weird like that. I'm really proud of you, Jay. Is this going to use like this little tick off the listeners? They're like, why are you giving it to your co-hosts? Why are you giving me prizes to us? The good news is guys, if it takes seven months to get to you, it'll take like 28 months before it gets one of us. So that's true. That's true.
So what do we got for our host giveaway? We have Ren The Old. That's not the host. That's the movie. That's right. We're giving to another drum roll because this person deserves it and that is macula. Oh, what? Wait, Jay. Wait. Wait, that can't be right. Jay. No, why is that? Max not even 18 yet. That's true. Not qualified to win. Get a B18 Max. Okay. Well, moving on then. But that is a Blu-ray DVD in digital code.
Okay. But to be fair, being that you are doing this like not at all nepotistic sort of, I don't even know if that's a word. Sort of vibe on the giving things to your host. Yes, because Mac is my son, my other son. Yes. Well, yes. You could. Yes. He spawns older brother. Nobody told him that yet. But I feel like there's a joke that I could make, but I'm not going to make it. And so, yes, I do feel like you'll make an exception in his case for the 18.
And weirdly, he doesn't even live in the US anymore. So that's right. Both of those rules don't even play him up really. So Doc, getting into it, man. Top five. What is your number five? Right. So getting into my number five, top five now. This is one that, this is one of the most recent ones I saw when I was putting my list together. It is such a fun movie. It is totally killer. Okay. And this is about a girl.
The infamous sweet 16 killer returns here for 35 years and kills the lead characters played by Keenan Shipka, who I think is a really great young actress. I mean, I liked her even going back to the madman. Yeah. I thought she was great then and I really liked her. And of course, she was great in, was the black coach. Yeah. I love that movie. Yeah. She was really good in that. This though, and it's a comedy. This is a comedy horror. And she ends up her friend.
She ends up going back in time to the 80s to try to track down who this killer was and stop him because what happened was her mother's three best friends were killed. And then somehow this guy comes back three, five years later to take out the mother. And so she wants to go back and prevent that from happening. And what's really cool is this is the modern sensibility dealing in the 80s. You know, the her characters constantly saying, you can't say that it's mean.
Whoa, whoa, that's that's hate there. You know, like all this stuff going on and everyone in the 80s, like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah. Yes. And she finds out her mother was part of the meme click. Like her mother and her friends were pretty much the ones who would who were like, just make fun of everybody and just they were nasty and she never knew that about her mother. It's a fun movie. It's just so much fun. I had I had a blast with this. So yes, that is my number five.
And I could see myself rewatching this one. And it even it even she tries to keep things like right with the timeline, but they even had fun with that at the very end. So yeah, I love this one totally killer. My number five and Gilman, what is your number five? Well, it's funny because that's another one I haven't seen yet. And I remember. I was thinking, okay, I think on paper, I should really dig this movie. It's basically back to the future as a slasher flick. And I thought, okay, why?
But then I just, you know, unfortunately, I feel externally jaded. It may be the same thing, the same thing to kept your way from wrapping it back. Yeah. Kind of the same. Yeah. And we're really though, I really like her. Kieran is shippling. I like her. Like it also she was in Castle Rock season two as Annie Wilkins' daughter. Oh, nice. Yeah. And that's like, if you don't, because you can watch just that season, you only need to see the first one.
If you get a chance, watch Castle Rock season two with the whole Annie Wilkins thing. Lizzie Kaplan as Annie Wilkins is like almost like a prequel in a way, but it's so good. It's so great. That aside. Yeah, totally killer. I just, I remember there's a couple times we almost pulled the trigger on it because my wife and I usually watched something like on a Saturday, you know. And so I was like, you know, do you want to watch this? And she was going, and so I was like, okay, fine.
Well, never mind. It wasn't like I didn't want to watch it. It was just, it just kind of, and then I forgot about all about it. Honestly. Okay. But then actually until I was going through, I tried to make my list for this. And I was like, oh, yeah, I meant to see that. I get another one on paper that I probably should love like Renhield, right? I think this is another one you're, and again, I think maybe like Rath or Becky, I don't know that this would have cracked your top 10.
But I think it's one you will enjoy. It is a slasher film. So it's like she goes back into an 80 slasher. But just with the modern, the modern way of thinking, if they're making fun of all of that, then I am down. Well, she's, she's trying to get these people to understand it. Uh-huh. And they're just looking at her like, yeah, that's honest though. Like that's how it should be. Exactly. Exactly. What the hell are you talking about?
Yes. You know, yes, that's a hundred percent accurate to the reality of what it would be like. Yes. Exactly. Hell, they probably, it probably would have been worse than them just giving her looks and saying like, what are you talking about? Uh-huh. Because, uh-yeah, those of us that survived, you know, mass bullying and the release. I must say, she does not manage to change the age. No, kitten. You don't say. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. So, so that was your number five.
And I think you already picked it over to me and then I, yes, sir. Yes. So, uh-my number five, again, you already mentioned it's Thanksgiving. Oh, perfect. And, and honestly, the reason why it's in my top five is because I've already watched it more than once. Um, I just, I do, I, first off, it's fun. You like raw for me. I've not actually watched all of his movies. I've still not seen the hospital movies and because I just at that time, I just wasn't into the whole like, oh, the torture porn.
Yeah. You know, I saw hostile in the theater. I remember seeing hostile in the theater, boy, that you want to talk about it really, um, strong experience. Yeah, I bet. I bet. Yeah. But like, cabin fever, I loved cabin fever back in the day, man. I love that movie. And this to me was just this fun over the top slash, and I love your, like, honestly, nothing else needs to be said. It's a perfect comparison. It is the 2003 Texas Chainsaw Mastery remake was to original Texas Chainsaw.
This is to the Thanksgiving trailer. And honestly, I like that he did this. I get the argument except that, and as one who tends to, you know, like, like an aesthetic experience as well, please see my number 10 for that point. But I think that that's what is interesting, right? Because he could have done his Thanksgiving and it could have looked like Skinner, Mariek, right? He could have definitely aesthetically made it.
He could have been following a similar storyline, but it's, it was great how he tied it into that kind of like a modern thing with the whole, you know, black, black Friday and people willing to like kill each other to get a stupid free toaster or whatever. I like that it has that social commentary aspect without slamming us over the head with it, you see? Yes, exactly. And so I just loved all that. I love the look of the killer. I like that it's like a new iconic slasher.
I bought both posters and it, because I bought and I actually bought them prior to the movie coming out. I got like the actual theatrical posters, both the one where it's like the killer with his back to the camera with the the acts over shoulder and the one where it's like the real close up of his face.
And at the time, I thought, man, I hope this movie doesn't suck because of my thought was, wouldn't you have wished you had bought the posters at like 20 something bucks for Halloween before Halloween or Friday, and my thought was, you know, Thanksgiving could be, you never know, it could become a new thing. So I was like, all right. So I was trying to be a little like sort of anticipatory in my investment. So I think I think you made a good investment. I think I did too.
I think I did too because I have a feeling, you know, 10 years from now, this is going to be a movie that kids my kids age look back on. But oh, man, I love that movie. You know, that like we do about our stuff. So I loved it. I thought it was fun. That's my number five. All right. We're getting there Dave. Number four. All right. I haven't seen it in a while, but it is my number four. And I really, really enjoyed it when I saw it. It is cobweb.
Okay. An eight year old boy in this is just this IMDB and eight year old boy tries to investigate the mysterious knocking sounds that are coming from inside the walls of his house unveiling a dark secret that his sinister parents have kept him from him. And that's the thing about this movie. He hears this voice talking to him. This girl's voice talking from behind his wall. And his parents are very, very, they are. I mean, and his parents are played by Lizzie Kaplan and Anthony Star.
And they are very sinister. Like they're hiding something from him behind this wall. And you really get this creepy vibe from them. And you're sort of hoping that things, you know, that this kid, he's a little kid. I, what is he? He's eight years old. And this is children in peril like at its worst because what happens is there is a switch about a halfway point. But then it gets worse. And you realize, wow, maybe the parents worked.
I don't want to go too deep and know because if people haven't seen this, I think it's an experience you really should get. I love the way that this movie played with you like that. And then it gets scarier as it goes like all good horror movies should. The final act, you're just that you're most terrified and edge of your, edge of your seat. So that is my number four is Cobb Web. So Mr. Gilmange, oh, your number four. Well, Cobb Web was a great choice and it was almost in my top 10.
So if we were doing honorable mentions, it would absolutely be in there for me as well. Because I really like that movie a lot. My number four is a movie I have not seen since it came out, but it's absolutely what I will revisit at some point. Just haven't had the ability to get back to it. But I absolutely loved it for a variety of reasons, but it is a M night shummelons, not get the cabin.
And I feel like it's a movie that some people might say, well, this, but you know, I'm even listed number one is horror. I think you could make the argument. It's more of a thriller, but without making that distinction, I loved it, dude. I did you get a chance to see it? I did not. Okay. This is one because I always, I always try to check out M night shummelons movies. And I'll be honest, I didn't see old either because I heard so many bad things about old.
I liked old, I hate, I did not hate old, but old has flaws. Old is sort of like in that middle ground. So I don't know if you saw glass, but it's sort of like closer to glass. Then it is a split or the visit of his newer stuff. You know what I mean? Gotcha. So whereas this is much closer to the visit and split and quality than old would be. So yeah, it's just, it's based on a novel. It's the performances are fantastic.
It is, you know, the basic premise and I'll do the IMDB thing here for anybody that doesn't know because it's been a long time since this movie came out. It feels like, I was like, I was like, it did come out in 2023. Right? While vacationing, a girl and her parents are taken hostage by arm strangers who demand that the family make a choice to avert the apocalypse.
And it's one of those movies that the movie I want to compare it to, but because you have not seen it, not get the cabin yet, I can't because I feel like it would give certain elements away. But there's another movie from the early 2000s that it reminds me of on some level. And what you see it, I'll tell you and you'll be like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I get that. But, but it's it's dude, it's just it's great. But, Batista is fantastic in it. He is, Dave Batista's in it.
Jonathan Groff and I believe I just want to make sure to get names right here. Jonathan Groff and Ben Aldridge are the couple that are the parents and it's a gay couple and they have an adopted Asian daughter and you know what? So amazing about this movie. There is no virtue signaling. There is no sense of anything other than this is just a family.
And by the way, kids, this is how you do it where you just write characters that I as a straight white guy related to and shed tears over and connected with even though I'm not a gay guy with an adopted Asian daughter. See, that's how that's called that is called relatability. Yes. And they were amazing. And by the way, on top of all that, because of the themes in the movie, it actually needed to be a gay couple. And I don't give a thing away of why it makes sense.
I don't mean that like in political sense. Thematically, it was important. And so my point being is that, but there's never this sense of like, huh? See? See how? See what we're doing here? None of that crap. It was first of all based on a novel where it's being true to the source material. But also, it just, it works. It works on every level. The performances are all great. The little girl, Kristen Koei or, I honestly, it's CUI. It's her last name. She plays the daughter.
She's adorable like nine year old or whatever she is. She's fantastic. Rupert Gritt. Ron Weasley has a part in it. It's just, yeah, it's fantastic. It is a great movie. It's horror in the sense of what they're dealing with, the apocalypse, right? But I would argue it is much more of a thriller. Like it's got much more thriller vibes. Yeah, I can't see the praises of this movie enough. Knock at the cabin to me. It was just so great.
I mean, literally by the end of it, I mean, I'll say it was dusty in the theater. It is, it is, it is, it's the other two. It's like, it's like, shommel on it. It's like, you know what, that's like, six cents is a great comparison. Not because there's anything similar. Like, and that's the thing. It's not like, don't look for the shommel on twist. Cause again, it's based on a book. But it's that, we just rewashed six cents for it. I hadn't seen that in years. Watch it with my kids.
And they hadn't seen it before. And you know, it's amazing. And it probably partially because we've homeschooled them. They had no idea. Like they didn't know the twist. And so, which was really awesome, right? Cause they're like, what were they? They were like, you got to see that again. That we was like, for all of us, we were like, wait, what? No. That's awesome. And so, and so, and so, and so, like, it's the very beginning. One of my kids goes, well, at least he lived. I think it.
But I had the thing I always get about six cents is that in the, towards the end, that scene between Tony Colett and Haley Joulas, when they're in the car, and he starts talking about, you know, I get, I get terrified. Yeah. Oh, my God. I cry every time. I'm gonna lie. Like, I'm, yeah, I got punk. I cry. Because she can finally understand. Oh, yes. It's so cool. The performance of those two in that moment, the fact that that didn't get Academy Awards across the world.
At least nominations for everybody across the board. It's like, it's so emotionally powerful. And that's what I love with something that's kind of creepy and weird. But it also has this like emotional heart. I love that. It's hard to pull off. That's like Spielberg in level stuff, right, to be able to pull that off. And that's why I think Shambla Lott at the beginning anyway was like, oh, he's in the second coming to Spielberg. But he's, you know, yes, he's had misses.
But when the guy hits, he nails it. And to me, not get the cabin is on par with like early Shambla Lott. That's what I feel about it. So he, he, someone I always root for. I'm always hoping that he's going to knock it out of the park because of those first three moves. And you know what? I will even throw the village in there for Jay because I didn't really enjoy the village. It's not, I need to revisit it because I think the problem with the village was it came out when it came out.
We all had this now expectation of what a Shambla Lott movie was. And he, and he's still kind of tried to live up to that. But then when the twist happens, you're like, oh, really? I'm okay. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. I was surprised by the twist. It did get me. Yeah. Um, but I, so I, I'm going to throw the village in there as well. It's a well made. Because of those four movies, I'm always rooting for. It's almost like even with our gentle today.
Yeah. I'm still rooting for the guy every time it puts out a movie. Now, dark glasses was damn good. I like it. It's not classic Argento level. Yeah. But it was for what he's been doing recently. Yes. It's a, it was a really good movie. I liked dark glasses. So I was happy to see that. And I'm happy to hear that about a knock at the cap and because I am rooting for this guy every time out of the box. Yeah. Honestly, it could have been my number three.
And in fact, I would argue it's probably tied for my number three, but I had to pick, you know, one and one and one of the other and one of my team slightly more recently. So. That's okay. But yeah, so it's, yeah, highly recommend. All right. So speaking of number three, Dave, what is your number three? My number three is a movie that has established both a director and an actress. They've already done great stuff in the genre. It establishes them as they're here to stay.
It is Brandon Cronenberg's Infinity Pool. Oh, cool. James and him Foster are enjoying an all inclusive beach vacation in the fictional island of Latokka, one of fatal accident exposures the resource perverse subculture of hedonistic tourism, reckless violence and surreal horrors. And that's really where this movie goes. He plays an author and it's Alexander Scarsgard. He plays an author. He's there with his wife played by Cleopatra Coleman.
They run into Mia Goth and her husband and they befriend them. They go out into, they go off of this site. They've been told not to go off of this, this resort. They go out into the surrounding area but they do something happens. There's a trial. But then you realize that it sort of switches up on you and you realize, well, they can get away with this stuff because of the justice system and the way that the justice system works. It's very much fantasy.
I mean, this is not something that could happen in real life, the justice system in this movie. And then it just sort of spirals out of control that you get these people who are like, there really are no consequences for our actions and he gets sucked right into that. But then something happens in that relationship with him and these people. I don't want, again, I don't want to go too deep into it. I was a real big fan of Brandne Kronoburg's first movie.
Oh, God, why am I blanking on the possession? Possession, possession, yeah. Yeah, I thought that was really clever. This is right up there with it. And Mia Goth is amazing. As good as she was in X and Pearl, she's that good in Infinity Pool. So yes, it is my number three. So, Gilman, what is your number three? Well, it's funny. If any pull another one on my short list, here's the thing. I saw possession and I think it was after everybody had talked it up. So I, it was fine. I, it was fine.
But I didn't, it didn't hit me. I think I could hit some people like yourself. You know what I mean? I think I think his movies sort of demand multiple watchings. Yeah, I could see that because I sort of had that with possessor too, but then I thought about it. Yeah. I watched a few scenes a bit again and on and like, you know what? This is really pretty amazing stuff that he's doing here. And we had a little bit of a discussion.
I don't know if it was on, I might have been on LOTC where we were talking about Brandon and David and saying, hey, Brandon could actually, we were talking about could he actually overtake his father? Could he become like an even more prolific director? But I mean, it's very early. And one of the things Brandon Crowe and of our cousin this corner is the name of David Crowe and she's behind.
Sure. Yes. And you can't really compare, you can't compare possessor and infinity pool with rabid and all those early Kroneberg movies because he was just starting out and he was still doing great stuff. But you know, it's funny, Dave. It's easy to play like the whole like, you know, condemn because I know that you're like, oh, he's a nippo baby. But you know what?
Think about being a nippo baby is and I don't know about you, but I've experienced what's called it posture syndrome before I think we all have. I think I've all experienced. I can only imagine the weight on unless you're just like a sociopath. I think the weight on the shoulders of a creative that wants to stand on their hence why Joe Hill ain't Joe King, right? Yes. Exactly. I think that that one can say, well, you know, he could have just used it for name. And yes, he could have.
But I would say in a weird way that comes with its own set of baggage. You've also first got to listen to a bunch of people who are jealous, call you a nippo baby all the time and assume that everything you got, you got purely because of your last name, which isn't always necessarily true. So I got to imagine that the love there's a there's negatives as well as positive. So go along. Yes, we're doing that. Yes, there is.
And everyone and anybody who thinks that Brandon Kronoburg just got this, you know, because his father may be the first one out of the gate. Yeah. Is why he got money for it. But he's proven himself as far as I'm concerned that this that he has a unique voice and he's not he is not doing his father. He's not doing body horror. Yeah. No, no, he's not trying to do that. He's got his own ideas and yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And I cannot wait to see what his third movie is. Yeah. All right.
So moving on number three, sir. Okay. So my number three, it's funny when you said a director and an actress, my I was like, wow, now what if we pick the same number three, but it turns out we did not. So my number three is a movie that showed on Hulu and only on Hulu, which still annoys me, although I will say hypothetically allegedly, if one were to search on say, I don't know, Etsy. One can find a Blu-ray copy.
So from a, actually from a Etsy seller, I believe that maybe a certain doc recommended that puts streaming only movies out on Blu-ray. Wink, wink, wink, wink. So that is no one will save you. Oh, see that then I have not seen this because it was only on Hulu and I refused to pay for all these streaming services. I would say, Dave, it's worth again, allegedly, if you go look at that certain Etsy store that you have.
If I happen to stumble across that site and I happen to find something, it might be worth the 20 by hypothetical purchase. Okay. 100% yes. All right, because I actually went and bought it because I don't trust that movies like this won't just disappear off the planet. And so Hulu, that seems like they've pushed the sadness has just been announced too. Yeah. But what's that? Almost a year and a half, two years ago. Now there is a far as long for, yeah, there is a, for the, for prey.
Yeah, there is a part of me. There is a part of me though that likes like first is Godzilla minus one or any of those a couple other movies where they, they've taken a longer time to get it to us. And weirdly, I actually was just talking about this recently where the delay, I missed, honestly, I missed the delay. I missed their big cement dissipation built up as long as I know it's coming though.
What concerns me about movies like no one will save you is the fact that it's a Hulu exclusive and like there's never any toxic barbarian. Like there's still no even talk of a physical release of barbarian. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? I know when I was very happy to find that on that, a leg. Yeah. Hypothetically, yes. So was I. So yeah, so no one will save you if you don't know an exiled anxiety ridden home body must battle an alien who's found its way into her home.
And it is this, it's kind of like I just a weird comparison, but fury road in that it's just like right. It's just like this non stop feels like to a larger green. This non stop chase in a sense. And but it's so well done. Dude, Caitlin, Deaver to me is the shiznit like that girl is awesome. I loved her. I just a fight which I don't know if you're watching justified, which is a fantastic show. Based on the all more Leonard stories. It's she's so great and she's so great in this.
And again, this is another one where she's this great well written. See, that should be the criteria. Not strong, not weak well written. Yeah, female protagonist and she's flawed and she's but the fact that there's like I think what like maybe eight words in this entire movie. If that even then they're kind of like you can barely make them out. Wow. So dude, it's totally worth checking out. I cannot recommend it enough. It is a spence full as hell. It's fun. It is a fun fun movie.
I can't wait to rewatch. I mean, actually holding out to rewatch this with my kids. I think they would really dig it. And certainly if you're into like UFOs and leads all this stuff, then it has even another level of awesome slash. Oh, dear God, please don't let this be the way it actually is. So yeah, but yeah, can't recommend enough. No one will save you. That is my number three. We're almost there Dave. Number two. Right.
Okay, well, and anyway, no one will say, there's the one I regretted not seeing you. I think you'll like it. I'll be one shock of all the ones was streaming. Yeah, that that was the one I really regretted not seeing before I put my list together. Yep. Of all the streaming ones. Anyway, moving on. My number two, this will be pretty quick. It was already been mentioned when evil lurks. Ah, very cool.
This one, the dread that just hangs over you as you're watching this movie and you realize nobody is safe and everything that happens like and there's a scene with with these kids and and and as set on a stage. And all this guy has to do is one. I don't I again, I don't it's a new movie. I don't want to spoil anything just every moment of this. You're just like how much worse can it get and it gets worse? Yes. Every single time it manages to get worse images in this again, I prefer terrified.
I do think terrified of the two would be the one I'd go to first to rewatch. Someone said you watch one of this directors movies right now. I would pick terrified. Yep. I don't even have an evil lurks, but I will watch this movie again. It was just masterfully done. This guy is a hell of a filmmaker. And boy, if he just keeps making horror movies, I'll be happy. If he just keeps in this stays in this genre and keeps turning out what he's been turning out, I'll be very happy.
Yeah. So moving on your number two, sir. Here we go. All right. Top two. So this number two was actually my number one for most of the year. Nope. Just so we're clear on that. It's also my absolute. It's in my top for like favorites in the franchise and it's also already been mentioned and it's evil dead rise.
Oh, perfect. Dude, I love, I saw this twice in the theater, which again, for me these days, if I see a movie more than once in the theater, it's absolutely probably going to be in my top three. Okay. And it's and it's because I just I don't get to do that anymore, right? And it's like time is what it is. Like you would spend it. Like there's always something new coming out. You might want to see. Do you go see something that you've already seen? Well, yes. In the case of evil dead rise, you do.
I loved it. I honestly, for me, it's a combination of factors. I just thought I loved all the characters. I love the performances. I thought, you know, Lee Kronin, I believe he's the Irish director, right? I remember serves. He did. Yeah, he did the whole in the ground, which I yes, I liked. I thought it was really good, but but he was also very kind of quiet, very kind of Irish kind of movie. Yes, it was definitely more in the, you know, what they would call a slug. Yeah, I like it.
It's a little bird, but I think I heard from that and I heard he's going to do an evil dead movie. I'm like, oh crap. You know, what kind of you know what? You know, I want that. Evil dead to me needs. It doesn't have to like be aping Sam Ramy, okay? But it's still got to have that in and to me. It has to be visceral. There must be that visceral quality to it. Yeah. And I hadn't seen the 2013 remake up until relatively recent.
Actually, I think I may have finally seen it after evil dead rise even. Like I literally used to get this last year. I hadn't, I never got to it. And it's like I kind of didn't want you. And then of course I fed her out of her as with Don't Breathe and some of his other producing work and whatnot. I was like, okay, well, I need to see it. And then I finally went to the advice came, I was like, well, I need to read, I need to finally see the 2013 evil, it was I loved. I thought it was great.
Yeah. I like evil dead rise more. And to me, evil dead rise is like up there with like evil dead too with this energy. And it's, and here's the key though out of it's a, Alyssa Sutherland as Ellie, the antagonist of the whole thing. She's so great. And it was really good. And it's one thing that if you think about it, most of the evil dead movies, other than army of darkness, which I think we had the old discussion, I don't even consider horror movie, but set that aside for a second.
You at least have the sort of bad ash as like the main villain. Yeah. But you really buy in large the evil dead movies don't have like a clear, I guess in the remake, you kind of do with the one girl, but it's, it's weird because it kind of, it goes back and forth with her. You know what I mean? Like it's, yeah. So this one though has such a clearly defined antagonist, which I think makes it a much stronger because then you can, the probably evil dead is so nebulous, right? You can be anywhere.
It can be in anyone. So having like that one person who represents it visually for us, I think really helps. And just the wackiness and the way it ends. It's so just over the top. It's so cool. It's so great. It's so awesome. I loved it. It was an annamaria Thomas or annamaria Thomas, the one who played Judson and the sister. And I like these characters like that they were flawed. They had hard lives and just everything about it, dude. I loved it. I loved it. You mean it too.
Can't sing its praises enough. All right, Dave. We're here, man. And I always feel like we should probably say it at the same time because I have a feeling. We have the same number one. I could be wrong. I, I will tell you right now you are wrong. Really? Because my number one is talk to me. Huh? Are you serious? Yes. Holy crap. My number one is talk to me and the reason my number one is talk to me is because what your number one is going to be I haven't seen yet. Oh, okay.
I could have sworn you see as funny you know what it is. I know exactly what it is that I'm going into this when we started talking on number 10s. I knew what your number one was going to be. Yeah. I have not had a chance to see it yet. And I'm kicking myself that I had. Because it'll be your number one. It'll be your number one. It'll be your number one. It'll be your number one. It'll be your number one. Okay. My number one. Yeah. The reason is when I saw this.
I have a tradition on Halloween night where I will watch. Usually I watch House of Thousand Corpses on the 30th and then I watch Devil's Rejects on Halloween night. This year I didn't get to watch House of Thousand Corpses on the 30th. So I watched both of them on Halloween night and it hit about 11, 30 at night and I wasn't tired yet. I said, I want to watch another movie and I put on talk to me. Okay. And it was just I was so awesome. I loved everything about this. I loved that main character.
I loved where they went with her story. I loved the mythology behind this, this hand and you know, this, this stone hand and even if it isn't like, Ron was making a point. It's not totally original. Why? I don't care. Nothing's original. Nothing. It's told well. Who cares if it happened in another movie? Yeah. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant. Poignant.
I feel like as an argument that's almost a pointless thing to argue any forever, honestly, ever in a movie because every movie builds on all the legacy of the movies that came before, even if it's subconscious, even a movie that's really weird like Infinity Pool, you could probably point out the areas where this movie has elements of it have been done before. It's this, it's impossible.
So to me, unless it's like a verbatim rip off of something was even then who cares if it's fun, it's done well, you know, and so what? And if you've ever liked any Tarantino movie, you've completely nullified your argument. Exactly. Yeah. A hundred percent, but I'm sorry to interrupt you. Nope, that's fine. No, it's so, but anyway, we've talked about it already. So I don't have a lot more to say about it, but this one just really blew me away.
It was, it made for the perfect sort of cap on because I'm a big fan of House of 1000 corpses and devils rejects. I think both of them are awesome. And it just capped off that evening perfectly and was a movie that when I watched it, I knew it was going to make my top 10 and the more I thought about it, I just loved it even more. So that's how it ended up in my number one. So Gilman, there's not even really a need for a drum roll here because I don't think there's really any suspense.
Let everybody know your number one of the year. Well, I think what's hilarious is yours. You well played, sir, by the way, because when I mentioned talk to me, you didn't blink an eye, you didn't give away anything. You just, oh, it's coming up later on the list because then as soon as you got all the way through number two and yet and said it, you had to have been like, oh, that was the reason I didn't do that. Yeah, right. It was two movies. It's because they were so high on my face.
I didn't have mentioned the number two. Yeah, you did it very effectively. Whereas like evil dead rise, I messed up. I say, oh, I don't want to talk to you about it. But you look, you could debate the like, oh, it's just a horrible, like evil dead rise to me. No doubt horror movie. Like there's no, there's no room for you going, well, this movie, you could argue on some level because I think even in the like, I am to be it's like action adventure drama.
You can argue with every movie in this series. Of course. But here's a key. This guy was the cover of Fango number one. So all I'm saying, baby is Godzilla minus one is my number one shocking to no one ever. I saw this three times in the theater. This when it came out, I saw the black and white version in the theater when it came out. I love this movie. So it is literally a movie. It reminded me my experience of watching this movie is like when I was a kid, right?
And then you see a new brand new Spielberg movie that ends up becoming a cult class or right now. I can't it. It becomes like, you know, the first time you see, you know, the first time you see, the first time you see your raiders, the first time you see it, it's like, and you just know you could watch it over and over again. And it will never, there's always something there that you just will enjoy. It's like, oh, put on the background. Like this movie was so engaging on every level.
I love, I love this movie. I love the characters. I cared. I got teary. I do. I'm creaking. I teary. I need a Godzilla movie for God's sake. You wouldn't say it to have come off of all the legendary stuff, which were some, they were fine for what they were. I took my kids to see them. They were fine. But like this is like next level. And then to find out that the Kashiya Mizaki made this flipping movie for 12 to 15 million dollars. That's the amazing point.
They won the, they won the Academy Award for Best Special Effects over movies that had 100 million dollars for the books. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the last time you sat through the credits of most modern day movies. There's like, you go to a Marvel movie if you're waiting for the stinger, you can go out and get another large popcorn and polish it off. 100%. 100%. And it's like, look, you respect all those people for doing their job. But in fact, you got like a thousand people on a Marvel movie.
They have like 35 people or whatever it was for this one. Yeah, there's like one guy doing the effect of Iron Man's like visor closing. Exactly. And that's his whole work on the job and he gets them out. Exactly. So all I'm saying is, I don't know Hollywood just as a maybe a business model. So you don't completely utterly collapse under the weight of your own arrogance and egos.
Maybe you make more movies like this where the script is the primary element and then you find a reasonable budget because here's the thing about Godzilla minus one. I believe at least according to Imdeba, if it yeah. So its budget estimated was 15 million. It grossed worldwide. Would you hear this number? I mean, I think it's impressive because you know, I'm not a multi-millionaire, but 115 million worldwide. I said that for a Marvel movie, like, what a ball.
I see it from movie that did not get a wide release. I don't think this was like a 3000 theater movie. I don't remember how many screens it played on, but I will tell you it played. It's opening weekend in U.S. Canada. It almost made back its entire budget. So like the fact that you make 50 million dollar movie, right? And then you figure, okay, you got your, you know, you have to whatever double or triple it for marketing costs or whatever.
The fact that it made a hard 15, it's like mostly all profit, man. And so it's this huge success if people love it. People word about it. I mean, honestly, let's be honest, a movie of this quality in caliber in the U.S. had it not had subtitles and everything else. It might have even done better because a lot of people were like, oh my goodness, you moved with subtitles. That's exactly it. From movie with subtitles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And in a series, it's been going for so long.
But it would have been fine. I would have loved the movie purely because it basically ate Hollywood's lunch. And it just took them down a peg with like, hey, guys, really? You got to spend 300 million dollars on whatever like dialed destiny. And this is what you get as a return. Good job. Whereas, but here's the key though. It's not just that though. It's a great movie. It is a, it's a script. It's so good. The story is so good. The characters are so good.
And just the conceit, which I don't feel like I'm giving you anything away by telling this to you since you haven't seen it yet. But the idea, the brilliance of a kamikaze pilot who couldn't go through with it. Like it's just a starting point. It's so smart. And it deals with issues and the themes are uniform. That's it. By the way, other thing, last time I checked, I don't quote, unquote feel represented in the most superficial ways.
But yet I could relate to every one of these freaking characters and loved them deeply, deeply, deeply. You know what I'm saying? So, dude, I can't, I can't see the praises moving enough. I cannot wait to see it. This is the one I, I'm checking Blu-ray.com like every couple days, hoping I see. Yeah. Oh, I know. This is the movie that they've been making us wait. Now they did release it in Japan. So I'm sure we'll get one. But I know did you hear it drop down Netflix? Like, I don't know where.
I did hear that. Yes, I heard that it dropped on Netflix. And actually, Netflix is one that I've been contemplating resigning, signing up for again, mostly because my sons have a lot of stuff they watch on there. So I'm thinking, hey, you guys want to flip the bill? Maybe we'll sign up for it again. Yeah. Yeah, that might be worth doing in heck if you're just a for a month and maybe worth doing. Just for that movie.
I'm going to do a finger crossed, I realize I'm setting myself up for, and this is nothing to do with horror folks. I'm sorry, but I'm kind of excited for Beverly Hills Cop Axle F, the new, because it looks actually, I don't know if you saw the trailer. It actually looks fun and good. I got to see both the first and second on the big screen. So I'm really looking forward to it. Three is hard garbage anyway. So it doesn't matter. Yeah, and I don't know that I've seen through. I don't know.
Oh, three before I get to this one. No, you don't need to. Apparently, they may just, they're in the trailer. There's one throwaway joke. It's about three, but I don't think you would have needed to see it to get the joke even because it just has, I mean, Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy was on his way up with 48 hours and training places, but it was Beverly Hills Cop that made him a super star. That's the one that took him to the next lap.
Yeah, and it was originally written as a straight up cop movie star in Sovess. Yes, yeah, I love that. And I love that. It just looks like fun. So I would say, but so for no reason in July, that, actually, I think is today actually to work. No, it's our, we're in June. What am I saying? I'm about to head in July. I think July 4th. The fourth is what threw me. I think it's on July 3rd or fourth is when they're going to drop it. So maybe you wait till like July and to watch that.
And then it's one and then if you can't do is a, I'll subscribe and I'll get them to subscribe in like seven days. And that way I'll be able to get both of them before I cancel it. Okay, very cool. There you go. But yeah, no, yeah, God's almost 100% agree that you should absolutely see that one. I think that is that is top of the list of movies because I'd love to shin Godzilla. It is different, but it is.
And in my, but where shin Godzilla was a great movie in its own regard, but it dealt with like bureaucracy, this is movie is about heart and emotion and humanity. Awesome. You know what I'm saying? And I think you, you as deep dives as you take into certain films, I just feel like you will love this. That's great. And it's success as guaranteed. We'll get another. Yeah. Yeah. And it's of this quality. I'm all on board, man. I'm all on board.
Of course, of course, never mind the fact we've been getting them since 1954. Absolutely. There is that point. Yeah, but this is easily easily the best. I would argue. Because the last time I cried, I think was when Godzilla was teaching Gazzuki how to spend time. Well, and I thought that was a very touching. It was very touching. That's very touching. All right. Well, Dave, we did it. Top 10. We did it. Yes. I'll look at us.
All right. So, Jay, everyone, I don't know how we should sign off, but this is Gilman Joel with Doc Shock, Dave, Dr. Shock Becker, with our top 10 of 2023. All right. All right. So, that wraps up our top 10 horror movies of 2023 as brought to you by Dave, Dr. Shock Becker and the Gilman Joel Robertson. Great job, guys. And thank you for bringing us your picks. It was really fun to hear that. We've got a surprise, a special episode coming up for you next.
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