It's good to see you. What's going on. How you guys holding up? It's gonna be here, man, I appreciate it. Everything's going well. The weather is, uh, definitely hitting a low kind of my type of weather, being up from an up north guy. And uh, shorts have been on all week and I've been joining it. How things with you. We're hanging in there. Three weeks ago, we're not shoveling snow, which is good news. Um, let's let's get into the
challenge this week for this Jaguars defense. We know the running games the last few weeks that this Jaguars defense has seen Cleveland ran the ball well, Derrick Henry ran the ball well. This is a different field. This is a read option type of thing. And when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson that can go the distance from anywhere on the field, that adds just a different element to everything. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean you taught you start. Um. You know with with Lamar everything
goes through him. Um. You know, from a run game standpoint, you know, just a dynamic player. Um. Obviously from a running standpoint, you know, change the direction to speed on the elimeter, you know, and then obviously he has a quarterback that has dropped back capabilities, you know, where now you have that element of quarterback movement, whether it's bootlegs, sprint outs, you know, and everything that this guy possesses.
You know, the guys are reigning, uh you know NFL m v P. So, I mean there's a reason why this guy is so dynamic, you know. And then you go into the run game with the three stable backs that they have, you know, you know, very big, physical, bruising running backs. They got a big hold old line. Um. So, yeah, it's very demanding on us up front. You know, we know that every single week. But we have a big challenge,
you know, being a signment football. Um, you know, we all have an opportunity to go out there and you know, stick our hands and run our feet through somebody up front squeezing some gaps off and have an opportunity to uh, you know, tackle one of the best quarterbacks, if not the best quarterback in the National Football League. If you're a defensive end and you're running free and all of a sudden he pulls it out, I mean, what do
you look for in a read option? Yeah, you know you got you got different assignments like you're talking about right there. You know, our our defensive ents could be you know, responsible for different things and some of the option football that we are seeing, you know, and you've got to pursue that, you know, inside out. You know. One of the biggest things that you know, we've been telling our d line is that, you know, if you can pursue Lamar inside out, meaning that you're making him
run lateral, you know, to the sideline. You know, that's the surest tackle in the National Football leagues, the sideline. I mean that that sidelines never missed a tackle, not in every game I've been and seen too. So you know, you're forcing that guy that way and and trying to pursue it and run it down, you know, so he can't get his shoulder square getting running down onto your
second level or your safeties. You know what. That guy, you know obviously flashes and his dynamic ability definitely shows up in those situations. Jason with US Jaguars defensive line coach, Let's get into a few of your guys up front and calebon Chaison seems to be starting to get stronger and stronger as the last few weeks have gone what's
clicking now for him? Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, and one thing, Jps, you know, I think you and I have had conversations, you know, earlier this year, you know, in our in our you know, minimal camp that we had and O. T. A. S. You know, And and the thing is is, you know you need reps. You know, you've got to understand that there's footwork involved in pass rush. There's you know, a comfort level with the guy next to you, and pass rush you got to analyze the
tackle that you're going against. Is he a high puncher? Is or lower puncher? Where's this set point? There's a lot of analyzation of what your pass rush moves are gonna be. And now he's getting a feel of how to break that down, how to see it, how to critique it. Where's my plant foot gotta be, where's my hands gotta be, where's my aiming point? And you're starting to see JP, You're exactly right. You know things are
turning around. Um, he's getting more confident and everything you know, and more confident you are, and something the better and better. You're gonna look to go pick on it more and get better at it and get better at it and it's it's click, it's working, you know, and uh and
it's great to see you know. Calevon is one of those guys that wants to get better, loves to get better, always asking questions, constantly on my phone, constantly on email, sending me things, you know, and that's what you love about the young man, you know, the the guy wants to be one of the best players and premier players in the National Football League. Get love that when the when the phone never stops digging and it's your premier pass rushure. That's guy's right. You don't get those guys
all the time. Jason Refuss with US Jaguars defensive line coach Dwan Smoot in a contract year and getting some playing time and taking advantage of that playing time. It's a big year obviously for Dwan Smoot. What have you seen out of him in the last month or so? Yeah, no question, I mean Smoots one of our leaders. Um. You know, he comes out here on a daily basis, whether it's UH meeting time or obviously in the practice elements, and and he's obviously producing. You know, he's going out
there not only in the UH pass game. You know, the few statistical socks that he's had in the last you know, a few weeks, but obviously in the run game, you know, it does a really good job of straining and setting the edges. You know, he's getting better at you know, his his movements and stunts, you know, getting vertical and getting t TFLs and you know, and stopping the run and owning his gap and all that good stuff.
So he is definitely a guy that's improved, you know, through the duration of the season and the duration of his career that he's been here in Jacksonville. And it's a pleasant you know, and I know that he's going through you know contract, nobody's shying away from it. We all know those situations too, and he's definitely showing out there and producing, which is great to see for him
and great to see for us. One of the strange things about the National Football League is that you can have a year like twenty seventeen, or you have one of the great defenses of all time and franchise history, and only a few years later, a lot of those guys go different places. Well, Calais Campbell and Unique and Cockway have both been traded away. They both end up in Baltimore on the Ravens, the team the Jags are
playing this week. How strange is it? I know you've been around this league for a while now and you've probably seen some of this kind of thing before, But how strange will it be to see Calais and John on the other side, you know, jp the world that you're using strange? You know that that that's not the
first world that comes to me. You know, I feel it as a privilege and an honor, you know, to have that opportunity in the time that I was you know, I've been here in Jacksonville to be able to coach those two young men who are not only good football players e League football players in National Football League, but they're great men. And I had the honor to be around them men. And uh um, it's gonna be a great time, you know. I mean, obviously that opportunity to
go against these guys. You know. The one thing is is our players we always talk about is being competitive. Well some of us coaches are too, you know, and and we're gonna be competitive against John and Calais, And believe me, my competitive spirits gonna be out against them guys too. So that don't get me wrong, there'd be a few flashes of my eyes every once in a while looking out there, obviably seeing them playing a little bit of defense. But uh, you know, we're gonna treat
this just like any other game. You know, we're going out there. You know, they're purple and black and we're tealing gold, and we're gonna go out there and do the things that we need to do necessary to go win a ballgame. Great stuff. I always get to visit with you. Let's get a w. I appreciate you, t P. Thank you very much.