Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, September 23

showdown on Thursday Night Football tomorrow. We'll get into the game. The offense is spreading the wealth. They're off to a fantastic start. They're scoring a lot of points. That's good news. The defense has been a little slow starting games. How do they work themselves out of that trend? To begin the season, We'll get a scouts view from Bucky Brooks and a couple of key contributors. Will play Big Game Jaguar yet again and pick our Jaguars to have a

big game. Jimmy Luck will join us. The uniforms have been unveiled already, but he will show them to us. As he always does in this program on Wednesdays, Bucky Brooks, John O's you're joining us now, Bucky. What's going on with you? Hey man? It's all good looking forward to this a Thursday night battle. Jaguars gonna view him the

national stage. That's that's applause worthy. It is, and and so what they've been so far, at least they've been national stage worthy, and certainly on the offensive side, John, I could get used to these short weeks. I'll tell you, yeah, I don't mind him. I mean I from a football standpoint, though, Uh, I guess the older I get and more players I talked to, I would just as soon do away with the whole concept. From a football standpoint, I think it's

really hard in the players. There was no practice this week. Um. But at the same time, as a fan, I sort of look forward to tuning in every Thursday. So I guess you gotta take one for the team every now and then and be on these Thursday night games. A right. It happens once a year for every team, but pretty much every team in the National Football League, and as of late, it's been really the only prime time game for the Jaguars in every season. The last time he's

not playing Tennessee this year. That's true. It's always come on Jaguars special early in the season. It feels like now we've got a Dolphins Jaguars matchup. Let's get to the injury report today. We'll get into the game coming up. But some good news today for the tight end room. Tyler Davis practiced full today. He was limited Monday and Tuesday. He had been out with any issue the first couple

of weeks. The rookie tied in from Georgia Tech. We'll see what kind of contribution he could make if he's up an available. Brandon Watson went full today. He had not practiced a Monday or Tuesday. The reserve safety DJ Chark, though it was limited Monday and Tuesday with a chest slash back issue and did not practice today. He's questionable

for the game. Josh Lambo's ruled out for the game officially on Thursday night, so they'll have to make a move at kicker, and Brandon Linder has not practiced, he has ruled out for the game, and John those are some notable names. They're starting center the kicker and d J Charts questionable. That's huge Yeah, huge newsday on the injury report. Brandon Right, a rookie from Georgia State, will kick for the Jaguars tomorrow. For fans who don't know him,

he's a punter and a kicker. Doug Marone just talked about him on a conference call, said his confidence level is high. And Tyler Shatley, as I think everybody knew, we'll start for Brandon later at center. That's felt sort of expected all week. Hard to tell what's gonna happen with DJ. They said they're being cautious. Uh, didn't get a great vibe. But on Thursday nights, as you can talk to later on Thursday games, so much happens in terms of recovery for probable or questionable guys. But he'll

probably be a game time decision. Josh Lambo though he's gonna go on i R, which means he's out at least three weeks with a hip injury. UM. I'm usually somebody who thinks, okay, a injury in the short term in this league, usually you can overcome it quickly. Kicker as good as this guy has been, it's gonna be something to watch big time on Thursday, no doubt. Bucky. These are big games on the injury report that are out for a Thursday night national game. Yeah, big games.

But this is kind of the stage of the NFL right now. Everyone is having to really dig deep fun guys that are backups that are ready to play. And so when you're talking about the Jaguars, the youngest team in the National Football League, you're just gonna have to count on some other people to step up and be able to stand in there and really thriving these roles that may have been thrust upon them when they were unexpected.

So we'll we'll keep a close watch close to game time when the enactors are announced tomorrow, about an hour and a half before kickoff, to see what DJ Chart's status is for the game. Though. Let's let's quickly wrap last week's game. The Jaguars and the Titans in Week two, and this was another pretty good offensive day. I mean, they're averaging eight and a half points per games so far. It's tied for eighth in the league, tied for fourth

in the a f C with the Chiefs. Minshew led the charge in the second half of those three touchdown drives to get the game back tied again. The running game was fantastic again with James Robinson, so so Bucky is a lot of the same. They're spreading the ball around, they can run the football, and you know, if they weren't down two scores to begin with, you might see a little bit more from the offense. But they're having a club back in games. But so far they've been

able to do that a couple of times this season. Bucky, Yeah, so far, the positive has been about governments, you playing really well. He didn't know how quickly he would pick up Jake Gruten's offense. That has obviously worked out. They're converting that we saw at ten for fourteen on third down. Man, you're talking about operating at a very efficient clip. James Robinson gives a quiet one hundred yard game, like if you didn't really watch the game, you wouldn't even since

that he had a hundred yards. And so that's positively one thing that stands out, and it's one of the reasons why they lost the two turnovers. Typically, when you lose the turnover battle by plus two, you're talking about it's a it's a seventy five percent win rate. When you win the turnover battle by plus two. The Jaguars can't give the ball away. The march for air is really thin, especially with the defense not playing at a high level. Yeah, John, those two interceptions were to, um,

you know, just mis calculate. Well, the person was tipped by Colin Johnson who's six ft six and didn't he thought the ball was coming to him. Was supposed to go to a Shaughnessy. And the last one, um, well, Clowney was lined up off side, but that's beside the point and it was at the line. So it does. But to to tip ball interceptions unfortunate. Yeah, I didn't

know you could do that. Jp. If I had known that, I would have had the receivers about fifteen yards down field to start, because that would have maybe even things out, I think a huge thing. Uh. And I really haven't had time to study this that much because it was a short week. The third down conversions that Bucky talked about, it's huge, Jon Gruden, I mean, I'm sorry, Jay grud and I knew I was gonna do at some point this season. Jay Gruden talked about that this week as

being to the offense ten of fourteen. If they were converting less, they'd be scoring about half that much. My senses, without really going back and studying it, James Robinson gets more out of early down carries than I think Leonard four Nette did. With James Robinson, he gets three or four yards, he gets whatever is there. Sometimes four Nett would only get a yard or two, maybe doing a

little bit too much dancing. My sense is that they're being helped by better down and distant and that that's causing them to be able to convert a lot better, cheesier to convert third and three and third and seven. I don't know if Bucky's seen that or not, but I think his efficient running style helps them overall. Maybe in a hidden stat in that sense, Yeah, there's a hidden stat And part of it is the thread of

James Robinson because he has been very effective. The one thing that Jay Gruten has done, Garna Missue has been excellent off play action third team for seventeen every nine point nine yards per attempt, three touchdowns and a passer raiding go on six when he throws off play action

and so on early downs. When they line up in the eye and they fake to James Robinson pull it out, they're now putting themselves in situations where it is second and short very manageable situations, and part of being successful on third down is putting yourself in a position to have those manageable third downs. On first and second down, the Jaguars have really done a good job of kind of playing, uh, playing the game in that manner. Offensive line has a lot to do with that too, guys.

Of course, they're they're playing very well, at least early in this season, getting that push up front with the veteran group for the most part they'll have and even when Shatley came in last week in the third quarter, they still ran the ball effectively behind Shatley to Bucky. Yeah.

Now they've been able to run the ball very, very effectively, and I think that's been one of the things that you, Doug Maron, you, Jake Ruten, you feel very encouraged about because you didn't know what this offensive line and what this unit was going to do because of like didn't have the full compliment of the off season. But it's been very impressive to watch them run the ball, run the ball when everyone in stadium knows they have to

run the ball. That's very very critical, and so James Robinson looks like a fine but this offensive line looks like they have the capability of being able to push people off the ball. That bowls will for the Jaguars going down the stretch, and John the entire Jaguar's brass called it. Yes, Yeah, remember the whole tanking thing. Remember

tanking for Trevor ten days ago? Ten days ago. If you looked at it, and I missed it a little bit, but if you really looked at it, the interior of the offensive line, the way they approached it should have been enough to tell everybody that the whole tanking fame was ridiculous. They brought back Norwell, who would have cost him a little bit on the cap, but they could have gotten rid of him if they were tanking. Lender was a dead swap in terms of his cap space.

If they were tanking, you get rid of him. If they're tanking, you sure don't bring back a six year veteran to be your swing guard swain center like they did with Shatley. Now they're they're benefiting from that, now they have experienced to go in its center. This team wanted to win, and they kept telling us all off season,

the offensive line is going to be better. The offensive line is a big reason why the key to that whole tanking bs was the fact that they were bringing back an experienced offensive line, and Tyler Shatley is maybe an example of that about the tanking thing. Yeah, now, look at it's been. It's been a pleasant surprise to see the Jaguars not only compete, but to win games. I think we could make a solid case that they could be and maybe should be tun Oh at this mark.

And that's why the game Thursday night is really really important, because it's important for them to go to tun one to just kind of legitimize what Doug Marone, Dave Colwill and everyone is doing because look, on the outside, everyone was saying this team has given up. They they've waived the white flag. They're waiting for next year to find their quarterback of the future. If they get out to a start where they're at two in one and will position to possibly go three and one, I think it

changes that. But it also gives more confidence to the people in the locker room because then the guys may begin to believe that a we may have a shot to do something that no one thought that we could be able to do, and that's really compete for a playoffs spot tune one going into the many body. But yeah, that's where we are. That's where we are going into Thursday night football and have a chance to be two and one and then going to the Mini buy and

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Buckey brooks out in California. The Jags and the Dolphins coming up on Thursday Night Football tomorrow night at t I A A Bank Field, A chance for the Jags to move to two and one and then have a nice weekend to think about that and get ready for Cincinnati in Week four. But before we move on to the Jags defense, Buckey, what what stands out about the Dolphins defense so far that the Jags offense would have

to What what scares you about the Dolphins defense? If anything, the Dolphins will the Dolphins will play a ton of man to man coverage. UM. This is where Brian Floores believes in coming from the New England school, they play a lot of Uh, nose and nose, challenge the guys at the line of scrimmage and see if they can get off the line. And so for the Jaguars, I think the trick is can those guys win in the

line of scrimmage? When I looked at the Dolphins and I looked at their numbers, uh, garnaments she has been really good on quick game uh so and passes under two point five seconds. Uh. The Dolphins are holding people towards sixty four percent completion rate and a seventy three point nine passer rating. And so if we're trying to get those rhythm throws that we've been able to see Garna minsh you do early in the game, those meant

that be available. So what is the counter that j Gruen comes up with to take care of the man to man covers that the Dolphins will employ big Obviously John, if DJ is not available, that that deep threat that he presents might not be around for this Jags offense. Yeah, you wonder if it's a case where flour Is says, you know what, I'm going to go strength on strength, Meaning if you really scout back to last year and watch this Jaguars team, you know that mins she is

very good on that touch deep ball. He showed it again during training camp. He's really good on it to chart. So if he's not there, it's it's a little bit of a blow. But Channat can do that too, and Keelan Cole can get deep. So and waiting Okay, this year for minshow is sort of not on cork because that's not what he does. But for him to hit those touch passes down the sidelines we all saw in training camp. My guess is from what little I know about floor is he's not going to back off man

to man. He's gonna make them beat you deep Minshew can do it? Can you do it without chart? We'll see. We'll find out to come in active time tomorrow night. Let's slip it around to the Jags defense now, and for two straight weeks, the opening drive has carved up this Jaguars defense, going right down the field for a touchdown. Last week, the first two drives for Tennessee did it. Both drives were inside of two minutes of game time elapsed UM, respectively, and it was fourteen zip right out

of the gates. Lucky. It's a you can't continue with that trend. Obviously, getting in a hole is is awful, and they were fortunate to climb back out of that whole last week. Tie the game light, but fourteen nothing is not gonna get you too far. How do you how do you slow that trend down? You know? I think what tyd Watch has now, he says, two games of film to look at and kind of determine what

are the things that we do really really well. John brought up an interesting point when you talked about playing strength on strength. I think this is a game where you look at what the Dolphins do. But I think because it's such a short week, you have to build a game plan off what you do really well. And so if Tyd watched looks at the tape, you may discover that, Okay, be pressure pretty good at times. Maybe we need to dial up a little more pressure early

in the game. Get Miles Jack involved. Hopefully he can be an impact player to compliment Josh Allen. Maybe our young guys can hold up, because when I look at their wide receiver corps, you have DeVante Parker, but it's not necessarily the same threats that um the Jaguars have faced early on. So maybe a little more aggressive aggressiveness to try and see if the Jaguars can dictate the terms to create more long yard is third down situations

where they can pretend to be fair better. John, I know you asked Todd about the blitzing and this week and when to blitz, how to blitz. Fans are clamoring for the blitz is the popular thing to do on video games and all that, but it's not as easy in reality. Well, the reality is, you know every time in NFL history, JP, I look this up. Every time in NFL history that an opponent has completed a pass, the defensive coordinator should have blitz. According to fans, it's

it's perceived as all. It's not the end all, especially in this defense, And I think Todd made a great point this week. If you're going to blitz and you know they're in max protect and you're just sort of beating your head against you all, then you're putting yourself in a position to fail. They're not gonna blitz every time, but I do think if they continue to get the lack of pressure they have in the first couple of games, they're gonna have to blitz more than they're comfortable with.

There maybe some feast or famine in the past that was really dangerous for this defense, because there was a feeling in the last two years jp you saw them all that if this team got behind, it was dead. Well this year with this offense, I'm not so sure that that's the case. So blitzing, even though you're giving up stuff on the back end, may not be out of the question. But the early game stuff has been

going back even to the Colts game. Remember they got rolled on the first series and got rolled down to the three on this on the second series. This team has to start faster. They've got to get off the field quicker early in the game. They only led five minutes of this season. You can't win games consistently doing that. Yeah, that's that's not a good stat at all. Certainly, it's you gotta you gotta get that lead somehow and play with the lead. We haven't seen that much this year now,

we haven't. We haven't seen that. And John brings up a point it's hard to climb out of holes consistently, and what typically has happened UH coach Washers had the change is styled a little bit. Had to ratchet up to pressure, and I think all fans should understand that when you're calling blisses and the bliss is just a five man or more pressure, what you're trying to do is really create one on one situations for your best

pass rushers to be able to get home. It's not necessarily designed for the blitzer to get a clean run at the quarterback, even though sometimes you get that, and so Todd has to deal up more pressure. But then it's on the guys. They have to win up front. You have to win your one on one matchups, and so you have to put a little more pressure on Josh Allen and company up front to be able to

get home. And so that's the limit. You don't want to expose the back end too often to one on one matchups, but you have to find a way to somehow disruptive rhythm of the passing game, particularly with a streaky quarterback like Ryan Fitzpatrick. That is up this week. And don't forget, yeah, John, the most veteran guy in the secondary right now is in his third year. So if you're leaving it exposed, your lead been some kids exposed back there, Uh last week. That's not always ideal.

So that plays into it a little bit as well. You mentioned Ryan Fitzpatrick. He is and this is I just found this fascinating looking this up today. He is thirty six on the all time passing yardage list in the NFL, ahead of Steve Young, y A Tittle, and Troy Aikman. He is streaky, as you said, Bucky, He's been around for a long time in the league, a bunch of different teams. Uh. But as you said, if he gets hot, then he's really hot. He's cold, he's cold as ice. And how do you determine which one

that's going to be Bucky. Well, I mean it's almost like any meny mighty mode. You just don't know what he's guts going to show up. I will say this and maybe this uh works in the Jaguar's favor. He's coming off a game against Buffalo where he had three hundred plus yours. He had two touchdowns and no interceptions. Rapitz Patrick typically gives the ball to the other team, so maybe this is the Jaguars lucky week that he

gives it up. But to the streaking this point that you bring up, he's thrown for over three hundred yards and three of his last four stars, so he can dial it up. He can string together completions. He is unafraid, so even if he turns it over, he's going to continue to keep tossing the rock. And so this is a week where, without practice time, hopefully the guys in the second yary have caught a lot of passes because he is going to throw one or two in their chest.

They have to catch him because those turnovers could be backbreakers. Yeah, you'll get opportunities on the back end this week, Johnny. It feels like if you can get there and get in his face and get some pressure, and you know the guy has been at it for so long. But you know the big story of course down there is when it's two are gonna play. It won't be this week. It's a short week, and you don't want to do that to a rookie. But at some point, guys, that's

the future in Miami. I would be surprised to see that this week. John, Yeah, I'd be a shock. And I talked to Armando Sugero, the Mammy Harold, who's been doing the Dolphins forever. Down there, no way, in his opinion, just to a play this week. You just can't get it ready because you're talking about a short week. As we know from covering the Jaguars, this week only walk through is only run through. There's definitely any time to prep,

so you don't do that. The thing with Fitzpatrick is he will throw the ball up to these bigger receivers on the Dolphins. I sensed that this this could mean a C. J. Henderson day. He's very good at playing the ball. He's gonna get some opportunities. He's good at going up and getting the interception. Not all defensive backs are big play would be him taking advantage of Fitzpatrick's willingness to throw the ball into tight spots and to put it up for grabs. C J can win up

for grabs. I like that. I like that for sure. Hey Bucky, when when do you think they pull the trigger on tour down there? Since we're on the Dolphins right now, I think we have to look at the middle of the schedule because the tricky what is rapus Patrick is coming off a great week, so we're talking about the streakiness. If he gets on one of those four or five game streaks, then you have to continue

to keep two on the sidelines. But I think the ideal move is right around the middle of the season. He's been on the sideline enough to kind of get a feel for what the practice routine and how fast the game is. At some point this year, though, you do want to see two A talk about LA get on the field and have an opportunity to play. We'll see if they If they get hot and the fits magic happens again and they start winning football games, then they never can tell. At that point. Let's come back

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can make it down to the bank. It's going to be a fun one and the Jags are playing some good football the one on one this year and a chance to to go above five going into a mini bye week, and then it's onto Cincinnati after that, and that's on down the line a little bit though, JP Shadrick with Bucky Brooks John Osier. That music each week means it's time for head equipment manager Jimmy Luck to join us on the program, and he will be with

us shortly. He is getting set up and ready to go in that booth they've already and now there is Jimmy Luck is here with us now. Jimmy, can you hear us? How are you? Yeah? I got you? Okay? Well, welcome in the program. Appreciate it. Um, this is they kind of they stole your thunder this week. Jimmy. Yeah. I must say they've already announced the uniforms. Yeah, there's a good look. It's all teal this week. Jimmy. Um, we'll get to what they look like in your hands

here in a moment. But those Thursday night game traditionally has been at least over the last few years, where teams show off that that full color rush where there will wear the same top and bottom and and do it on Thursday night football what the Jags have done this before, right, it was the goal. Was the name the official name of that gold color they used to have. It's it's called Okra and it's. Um. Some people liked it, some people didn't like it. It was definitely very unique. Um,

you know it's it is one of our colors. But I think everybody's more fired up about the teal. Yeah, it's gonna be a good look John for Tomorrow Night, no doubt. I know you're fired up about the teal. Right, but I once wore the gold uniform, and I must say I look good in it. I think that's just me. It's not about me, Jimmy, It's about the players. So what have the players seen the combination? Do they like it? Or do they not see it for Tomorrow Night? Uh No,

they've they've seen it. Um, there's been a few photo shoots here and there, so, um, you know, I know Josh has had it on a few times, Josh Allen and uh I think maybe you know, with photoshop these days, it's hard to tell who's actually seen it who hadn't. I mean there's pictures of teel helmets and everything like that. You know, we're not going that far. We're still keeping still only one helmet in the NFL you can have, so we're not quite there yet, but it will be

steel pants, steel sleeves. The players still get fired up about uniforms. Jimmy, Oh yeah, yeah, they definitely. Yeah, there's there's looks that they like and then they'll they'll definitely give us their opinion. If they don't like to look, or you know, maybe we didn't play well, they'd be like, yeah, let's don't wear that again. So, um, we do get

a little bit of influence. We obviously have to declare really early in the year, um or before the season starts, what jersey we're wearing, but we have some leeway with the pants and the sleeves and the socks and those sort of things. So you know, So Jimmy, I have a question, Uh, what does it look like for the coaches? Because if the players are in all teo, how are the coaches going to distinguish themselves? Because do they wear black? Do they wear white? That we because when you're on

the sideline, you're trying to find the coach. Did you mess that up? To make sure that you take care of it, well, we we tried to, especially for the signal callers. Todd Wash. He likes to kind of stand out. Um. Some of the other coaches they just get so set in their ways on what they wear. They like wearing what they wear, whether it's you know, like hey, I want to wear this black hot jacket, whether it's a

hundred and fifty degrees outside or it's thirty five. They got that hot jacket they want to wear so um. But you know, we try to work with them if they do need to stand out. Um. You know, coach s Gruden, he's not a real big like that, doesn't you know, because he's talking in the radio, so he doesn't really care. But Coach Wash likes to signal a lot so um, So he'll usually wear something that kind

of contrast the players. Interesting thought there for sure, with all the color rush going on in the sideline, how do you stand out? You know, back to that the helmet thing, Jimmy, I mean, I think it was in London at a fan event one year. I saw somebody

with like a mini teal helmet. I think they were selling them over there, So you know, that's kind of a thing at least there you said they can only have one helmet though, right, they can't have a throwback helmet or or a different color helmet, right, Yeah, that's correct. Right now, the NFL only allows one like one helmet. Um. Now, obviously certain players have backup helmets, quarterbacks, guys with the radios, they have multiple helmets in case something breaks, but you're

really only allowed one. Look right now. UM, I think everybody's kind of starting to soften on that a little bit. Um. You know, probably eight years ago, I guess you could do that where people actually had different color helmets. Um, but there was a little bit of concern about, um, if a guy, you know, if we had to throwback helmet, but maybe he wore an old helmet. There weren't any more models in that. So but now with the helmets being so new and guys wearing new helmets every year,

it's really not an issue anymore. So, UM, I would see maybe in the next year too, that probably coming back. Um, you know, with us, obviously most of ours have kind of been black. We all we had a little bit of the the you know, the the more helmet there. That was pretty cool. You know. I don't know that we will see the two tone any anytime soon. But but again, everybody had their favorite. I mean, you know, the the two tone kind of grew on me there

at the end. It kind of sad when it went away, but um, you know, like I said, everybody kind of has their favorites and and you know, it's like I was kind of fired up to finally get the teal uniforms and the look on Twitter and everybody's killing me because we're not wearing teel helmets, so so I can't win. But you know, it's one of those things. It's just kind of fun to to see what everybody wants. Hey, Lucky,

what was your favorite uniform combo with the Jags? H Man, I'm just such a big fan of the teal jersey, so anything old school throwback to you with the white pants for me was my favorite combination. Um, I'm looking forward to see an old deal. Yeah, fired up. So Jimmy, let's take a look and what the Jaguars will were tomorrow night on Thursday Night Football, the Dolphins and the Jags in the Sunshine State Showdown. What you got, jim, there we go, so we got obviously, you know we're

going with the teal jerseys. You know we've worn those quite a few times before, and then to complete the look the teal pants, which you know haven't made too many appearances, but this will be the first time with the all deal, so I think everybody's pretty fired up about that. Good luck. We'll see those tomorrow night at t I A. A. Bank Field as the Jags host the Dolphins. Jimmy will talk to you next week before the Jags hit the road again to face the Cincinnati Bengals.

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my interest. So let's let's delve into this a little bit. It's the youth movement at the quarterback position in the league. Yeah, they're always young quarterbacks to play, but there are some quarterbacks that are young that are playing very well. So far, five quarterbacks twenty five years old or younger have forty plus passing attempts and UH plus rating through two games, the most in the Super Bowl era. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen Gardner, Jared Goff, and Patrick Mahomes. That's that's quite

a list. It is quite a list. JP. Just think about, like how much the game has changed just since you've been involved in National Football League. We used to hear for years young quarterbacks needed to sit um, they gotta they have to fit into our system. But now we're seeing more and more coaches make the game very easy for the quarterback. We're seeing how quarterbacks, regardless of went round they're drafted, they're coming in and having success. And

so I think it's kind of the perfect warm. Guys are training year round its quarterbacks from an early age. They're exposed to seven on seven when they're teenagers, they're playing in spread offenses in high school where they're throwing it and thirty times a game. The system in college really puts the ball in their hands and allows them

to make some decisions. And then in the National Football League, we're seeing more NFL optensive coordinators take some of those concepts from the college game and put him into play. And now the game on Sunday looks very, very similar to the way the game looks on Saturday, and so a lot of these young quarterbacks are benefiting from these changes. Yeah,

it's um. It has changed, and that has been a very recent change because you know in the in the college game that the read options stuff and the spread option and all that, you are putting your quarterback at risk. A lot of those times when you're have a running quarterback goes around. But we're seeing a couple of these

names on this list that can do just that. And so far it's been okay with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen especial flee um is the league taking a turn towards that, I think being okay with mobile quarterbacks who might just pull the ball and run on their own. That that was not really heard of about ten years ago. It's not really heard of. But when you think about the top quarterbacks that people are celebrating in recent time,

uh Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. Both of those guys have captured m v P s. There's a rise when people are talking about Kyler Murray being as Deshaun Watson has been rewarded with a big contract. Um, You're seeing that athleticism is now one of the requisite requirements to be able to play the position. And I'm not as concerned about guys running the ball as much because this is how this is the way these guys have been playing

since they've been playing youth league. This is what the quarterback is being asked to do and the Lord loves, and so they're increasingly comfortable running the ball, putting themselves on the perimeter, being an extra ball carry. And so I think we as fans have to adjust are thinking to being like you have to prototypical franchise quarterback also has the ability to run the ball at times. Interesting transition I think around the National Football League is underway.

John Osier is back with us now and we're talking about John. The youth movement at the quarterback position and the success that handful of players are having at the position that are twenty five years old and younger and John they're they're throwing the kids out there and letting them play early and letting them play a style of ball they've played throughout their upbringing, which you know, you used to have to really fit into a system in

the NFL that seems to have changed over the years. Yeah, I have thoughts on this. Where we could go until six o'clock Eastern, Buddy Bucket, it's three o'clock your time. Um. The first thing I wonder is the rules have changed so much that I think it's so in favor of quarterback play that it helps livee young guys. Think about every team has a legitimate quarterback right now, and it seems like there's a thousand great ones that's never happened.

So I think they're benefiting a little from the rules. And that's the old guy in they get off my law, you know all that, But there's something to that. What I wonder, Bucky is Yes, they're more mobile, and they're more and they're more running, and it's great, it's exciting. I wonder in fifteen years if we look at it and wonder, you know, did some careers end early? Did the mobility cost them. Maybe not, but I still think that's the That's what you wonder is are they going

to take hit and shorten their careers? And if so, is that just gonna be the trend moving forward that maybe they don't play twenty years now, that if you're taking these shots, you're gonna maybe have a quarterback in his prime for eight years rather than maybe eighteen. I don't know. Maybe I'm just skeptical, but I do wonder if that's going to come into play long after I'm retired hopefully now, John, I think it's a good point,

but I think what has happened. We got comfortable with the quarterback playing fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years, but that wasn't always necessarily the standard. I think it kind of changed when we saw Brett fair play um for a long time, and then we saw Peyton Manning. We've seen Tom Brady and Drew Brees played for a long time, but I don't think that's necessarily the way that we should view

the franchise quarterback. If they played that long, it's great, but just just look at Kim Newton, who was in his tenth year. If you think about what he was able to accomplish this first four or five years where he was an m VP, he went to a Super Bowl. That's kind of the thing. And when you look at the team building process, your window to win the Super Bowl typically happens when they're playing on their rookie contract.

The trend that I'm waiting to see is someone to go all in on the athletic quarterback and allow him to play the way to the plays where you run him and then he gets to the end of his rookie deal and maybe you go and get another one, just like you do in college. That is where you may like that you have a backup. Yeah, I'm waiting to see in Baltimore has done some of that where they have Jackson, r G three, um McSorley guys that

can play the same system. But I'm waiting for to see someone treat the quarterback position like we treated in college, where hey, we have him for a while, but then he graduates and we bring in another one. Maybe somebody has um the courage to try and take a different, a different approach to the quarterback position. Almost exactly. That's right, that's right. We're on the same wavelength John on that

comment there, because running backs. What Bucky last three three and a half years in the NFL and then here comes another one. So and there's the school thought by a lot of folks that you're never drafted running back in the first round because you can replace them. Maybe that's something to think about for quarterbacks down the line.

I wonder, you know, I do think there's something to that because if we we all can acknowledge that the championship window is the rookie deal, the five year mark with the rookie deal, well why not try to extend that deal? Because what happens is when you have the rookie quarterback or the quarterback plan on the cheap deal, well, now I can spend money other places to upgrade the

talent around him. Who is going to be the team builder that is willing to take some of the blowback from the fans when you don't resound the quarterback, but you're saying, hey, whoever plays quarterback for us, look at all of the weapons that we've given them, our system and allows anybody to be successful. It's uh food for thought. Let's say that we'll continue that conversation as the years go along. Um, let's get the scouts view of Gardner

Minshew last week, Bucky, we're gonna start this. We're gonna call this a segment, and we're gonna call it scouts view. Um, give us a couple of positive things that you saw from Gardner last week, and a couple of things from the Jags quarterback that maybe he didn't execute so well that he can improve upon on Thursday Night Football Tomorrow night. Man. Frankly, I'm gonna be honest. I I am pleasantly surprised by Garder Minshew, and look, I slow to come around. The

guy was taken in the sixth round. I watched him play at the Senior Bowl, and I didn't necessarily view him as a franchise quarterback. But here's what the great thing about the National Football League. You play, you get an opportunity to change narratives. And I think he's beginning to change the narrative because he has been very effective. He's been very efficient. We've rattled off the numbers that he has been able to post um for the Jaguars, and the fact that he's doing it in his second

system that he's played in. You have to begin to eventually say, hey, maybe he has a little something that we didn't think that he had when we drafted him. What you want to continue to see him improve upon, cut down on the turnovers, continue to be a guy that can really own the offense, meaning at some point he can we go no huddle and let him do everything. He seems to thrive in that offense at times. Some of that goes back to his days with Mike Leach

at Washington State. But man, if he can ever have complete ownership of this offense where you can trust him to just go run it and make his own plays, So now the Jaguars can kind of change the tempo and put the defense on the heels about the way they play. That's when you see Gardner minsh you go next level. He's shown that, but can you show it consistently?

Johnny a couple of moments in the game last week where you know he maybe still escape the pocket a little quickly, or didn't escape the pocket when he needed to, or throw the ball away. He had a twenty yard sack at a key moment in the game last week. Don Yeah, and I've been harping on that. I've written about it in the ozone at nauseam and asked about it, and I almost have a feeling now that when I talk about those things, I'm too nitpicky on it, you know,

and you read it every j JP because you have to. Yeah, I've been looking for reasons why he's not and that's the only reason you read it. But I mean looking for reasons why he's not going to make it. And I don't think he's ever gonna be able to drive the ball. I think you're always going to have an issue when teams rush and contain him. And then there was the play the other day with the twenty yards sack, and it would be easier, it'd be easy to say, oh,

that's why you can't do it. He still has not played sixteen NFL games. You can get away from you know, you can learn from what he did the other day that was wrong. He's gonna be the starting quarterback here. I think he is. I don't see any way that he's not gonna be the starting quarterback moving forward. And I think the question now is how good can he be, not whether he's gonna be here and they're gonna win too many games to get the quarterback next year. Whatever.

He's the guy, and I want to see how good can he be? And so far most of the stuff that I see that he's not doing can be fixed. So I'm optimistic. Just like Bucky. I've come around in two weeks as well. We're on the same team, you and me. Buck. Yeah, I love it, Hey, John, But I think you make a great point because here's the dilemma that Dave Calwell and the coaching staff are going

to be in. Garner Men, you may lead the Jaguars to too many wins and so say they win six, seven, eight, nine games somewhere in there, right, and so now you may be out of the quarterback sweet stace with the top guys. If let's just assume Trevor Lawrence justin Fields and trade Lands come out. So what eventually is garner Mens, you Silling? Is he a nine ten win quarterback and that's all we can expect? Or does he have the potential in time to be a twelve thirteen win quarterback

who also can win playoff games? Is he case Keenum, is he Kirk Cousins, is he Drew Brees? Where does he fall in the pecking or that's the challenge that Dave cole Will and Dog Moron may have to meet when they're kind of projecting. Okay, here's the road map for the franchise. How good is our quarterback? How many games? What is the ceiling for our team? With him at

the him It's a projection game for sure. At that point you gotta figure out what you're comfortable with and what the offense is going to look like moving ahead. There's our scouts view this week with Bucky Brooks. Let's get to big Game Jaguar. It's our weekly look at our picks for Jaguars to have a big game, and this week it's a big stage Thursday night football kickoff time tomorrow night at t I A Bank field of Miami Dolphins and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bucky, who you got

this week? Well, look, my guys, a questionable game time decision. But I need DJ Chart to show up and play and to be a dominant force with so much man to man coverage. John and JPU guys have alluded to, we need to push the ball down the field. What d J Chark does it is as well as anybody on the field. Need him to play and need him to play really, really well against the Miami Dolphins. Dannio who you got well. I went with Myles Jack and I've been on him all year. It's a safe pick

because he's going to play well. He showed the first two games. He's at a high level, he's healthy, he likes where he's playing. He was a big name coming out. Everybody knew Miles Jack, and I think the last couple of years in Jacksonville, he's disappeared from that national spotlight. Big game Tomorrow night on prime time. To me, if Miles is going to make the Pro Bowl, which I think he's capable of a play tomorrow night, some sort of big impact play to sort of get people talking

about him again. This is the state he's not thinking about that for along those lines, I think that could be his game. I think Miles Jack does make the Pro Bowl in part because of a huge play tomorrow night. Right, you've got Miles Jack, Bucky, you got DJ Chark. If he's up and and active and ready to go, I'm gonna take the tight end Tyler Ifford. Last week, the

Jacks had seven tight end receptions in the game. Iford had four of those and his first touchdown with the Jags twenty five career score and all that man demand coverage. Maybe he can find a crease over the middle and give Gardner an extra option in this offense Tomorrow. It feels like they're starting to warm up the tight end position in the passing game. If you go off last week's game. So give me Tyler Eiffort. So Bucky has Chark, Oshan has Jack, Shadrick has Efort. Those are our big

game Jaguars for Tomorrow night. Big game, Bucky. This is gonna be a fun one Tomorrow night. I can't wait for it, man, I am really excited about it. I think the name the Nation finally gets an opportunity to really look at the Jaguars and depositive things that are going on. I think you gotta watch. Hiscus should know could have a breakout party on Thursday night. We've seen stuff kind of begin to bubble up. He could aady break out game. That's a Bucky's Big Game Jaguar part

due John a little bit. They need to win this. They think they're a contender, they think they're good show it. We'll find out tomorrow night. Bucky will talk to you in the post game. John, We'll talk to you in the free game. And thanks to both of you guys, Thanks to our entire crew, and thanks to you for watching today's program. For everyone involved on j P. Shadrick and This is Jaguar's Happy Hour, presented by the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network