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eventful day around here, Bud, what's up to? First? And a third of what I don't know? There's been a few of those. Here's what we're getting to today. Of course, Ramsey reaction day. The locker room just closed. We'll get into what some of the guys had to say. We'll review it. At least Bengal's week is here. We're on to Cincinnati players to watch uniform unveiling. Jimmy Luck doing to join us and Chris Connley, Jaguars wide receiver, will bring a surprise guests. We don't know who it's going

to be, but we always like that. It's it kind of keeps us on our toes. He's doing a great job with that, and I'm sure whoever it is will be insightful. So today was Jalen Ramsey Day around here. Started, of course, last night, with the trade for two first round picks and a fourth round pick, a first round pick each of the next two drafts. The fourth round pick is draft to the Los Angeles Rams. Jale Ramsey has gone. We just got out of the locker room a little while ago, and I guess that for me,

the tone was it wasn't really bashing of Jalen. It was, hey, we're sorry to see him go, but it's a business. We're moving on and here we go to the Bengals this week. That was what I got. For most of the it was the tone you would expect. I mean, there is a there's an acknowledgement among players that players it's fraternity. They know that guys have to do what

they need to do. I think there's also an element not spoken a whole lot among the guys of you know, if if if a guy doesn't want to be here, if if if he doesn't want to fight this fight with us, Uh, you know they're not going to get real emotional when somebody who doesn't want to be here. It leaves Uh, there's emotion in this game when a guy who's out there fighting for them and with them gets hurt if he can't be there for reasons not

of his own accord. But um, you know, Jalen made it clear three or four weeks ago that he didn't want to be here. Uh. He made it clear after the Week three game against Houston that he didn't want to play for this team. Uh. And he said right after that that he loves his teammates, but the reality is he didn't want to play with him and that reflects on how he and how he felt about them

as well. They didn't verbalize that. UM. I asked a couple of players about that, and they are surprised he didn't want to go there, But um, I think there is an element of the team if you know what. We didn't want him gone. We're better with him, but there we're gonna be no sheep, No tears shed over a guy who made it clear weeks ago that he didn't want to be here and didn't want to be with them. Yeah. Time to time, move on and and

play some football and get back on track. Tom Coughlin made a statement today and put it out and through the Jaguars PR department about the trade, and you have it on the screen and you've seen it all over social media today. That's the only thing we've heard from the upper management for the Jaguars. They we heard from the Jaguars owner of course, shot Con a little later in the day. He's down at the owner's meetings down

South today. UM Doug Brone spoke with the media today on his regular Wednesday press conference, But as we always hear from Doug, there's only so much he can say about the nuts and bolts of the actual transaction. He's worried about the guys that are here ready to go on Sunday. He wanted Jailen here. He made clear of that, and any coach would. And I think Doug and a couple of his comments today made clear that he felt like he had reached out after the incident in Houston.

Uh that relationship, if it even needed mending. I don't know that that was a mending situation, although he got played up that way. I never got the idea from listening to them, or from listening to jail And that there was bad blood conflict there beyond your normal I'm the coach, you're the player. Sometimes I'm gonna have to get on, etcetera, etcetera. All reports are that whatever bad blood there was was from Jalen towards the front office.

I assume that means Tom. Uh So at some point that got to a point where Jalen, I guess, didn't feel like he could play for the organization. And I still wonder, uh, you know, to me, there's still an element of Tom must have said something to Jalen about the behavior in Houston. I think everybody who saw the behavior in Houston couldn't have said that it was good behavior on Jalen's part. So I'm assuming that there was some sort of reprimand of you can't do that anymore

that Jalen didn't like. And I can only assume all this because nobody's going to talk about it, but he's getting the pieces together. UM. And to me, frankly, if if if a player can't live with being told that those actions were wrong, then I don't know how you ever approached that player and tell him he was out of line again and again. JP. In this life, not everybody's perfect. I know you you're not perfect, um, But people have to be able to be told that a

certain situation is out a line. They told Leonard Fronett publicly last year he was out of line, and he has come back. And I think Leonard would tell you, and I believe he said this that he's better for it. He learned from his situation. UM. I get the impression right now from Jalen Ramsey the actions right now. He can't be told that he was ever wrong. Uh. And I don't know, even as great a player as he was, I don't know how you coach that and how you

move forward that in your building. I frankly don't know how the Rams will deal with that. But that's not our issue anymore. Let's take a look at the recent draft history of that of the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round. We could go back even further if you but why you know, we started in when the ownership changed.

Here and you see the first round draft picks of each year and where they are now, and of course fourteen, fifteen, sixteen draft picks are all where in Los Angeles Rams uniforms the last three are here, and even previous to this, you know Blaine Gabbert's not here. Obviously he's he's gone, and then a lot of guys aren't in the league anymore or out or moved on. Mercedes Louis is in Green Bay. But really I think Blaine and and Mercedes before this or the only two still playing Tyson Oul

while we're still playing. But that's that's really it. But they're not here, that's the issue. You know, a lot of these that's how you you build up your draft, your first round, second, third round guys, you keep them in the building. And that just hasn't happened over time here. Yeah, and uh, you know, the Jalen is is clearly so much different than the others, the others, uh, Dante, I

don't think it was a bad pick. I think he just wasn't going to be a guy who who was going to resign because they had players in the position he hadn't lived up to that first round draft or that top three status. Uh you know, Jaalen clearly wasn't a miss. Uh. You know, I think Jalen just got to the point where for whatever weird reason, didn't want to be here. But clearly you have to have more first round picks in the building over the course of time.

To be a perennial playoff team right now, they haven't been in that charts a big reason why. Um. I think the the counter to that is they have draft did well in some other rounds. It's not like there is there is no productivity, productivity from drafts here in

the building. But you're going forward. It's obviously if if in a similar chart reads the same and there's no uh, if if Josh Allen doesn't work out, if uh, let's just first round pick tap, if all these guys continue to not work out, then you're always and you're usually going to be down frontline performing talent and uh that's the reality of it. They've got to do better retaining it. That's always the goal, and that charts a reason why there's been one playoff appearance in the last ten years.

It's hard to to predict what happened with Jalen. I mean you can't really. I've never seen anything like it. I understand quite like it. Again, I don't know. I know there's fans who are criticizing quote unquote how the team handled Jalen Um and I guess that's fair criticism because he's not here, so you're gonna have that criticism based on what we know, think, we know, have seen actions wise, I don't know how you handle that. You know, I've said several times a day on the air in

different forms, Um I got, I got a question. And I was thinking about the concept last night of what advice would you give the Rams on how to handle Jalen Ramsey. And unfortunately, and and I really, for three years I enjoyed covering Jalen. I liked being a reporter covery, I was entertaining. I didn't think until the last month that he had been I thought until the last month

he had been more positive than negative, clearly. But the only answer seems to be you can't do anything to make him unhappy, meaning you can't a call defenses that he doesn't like because he's publicly said he doesn't like that and that's bothered him. And you can't tell him that a behavior was out of line. Well, once you get to that point, I don't know how you manage it. So maybe he'll be different in l A. Maybe he'll be so happy in the sunshine with state tax that

he's happy, and Gideon isn't bothered by those things. But the only reference that we have is that he was bothered by those things. And I don't know how you manage that if those things are going to set you off, because those things happened at every NFL team. Well, football is not like the NBA, meaning in the NBA, a couple of players can sort of run the organization. That

doesn't work in football. In football, at some point, when you've got twenty two guys, at some point, things have to happen that aren't individually promoting one player or the other, unless that player is a quarterback. Now, if he's a quarterback, it's different, but you can't bend the whole organization and toward a non quarterback position. And it it felt like that's what Jalen wanted and needed. And uh, I think

that works. So it's not gonna work here, and I will see if it works in Los Angeles Jaguars happy hour. Let's move on to the quarterback. Speaking of Gardner, Minshew the second spoke with the Jaguars media today and coming off worst outing for him at least this season in his rookie year, fourteen sixty three yards. This is our first chance to see how he bounces back from a rough outing on the field, and the tone hasn't changed

for him. He still seems like the same guy he has been at least talking to him today, and you have to think that that's a good sign for the offense. Yeah, and he wasn't really asked specifically, And I almost asked it, and I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it in the right way, so I didn't. But you know, how do you bounce back from this? And does your approach change? And there really wasn't a sort of asking the area. Um,

and it it's so short term what happened. He's not gonna be able to prove that he's a franchise guy in one week. Uh, just as he couldn't prove in four games that he was a franchise guy. And the process of getting over the New Orleans game, that's not really how it works. It's it's a process of over time, teams will throw things at a young quarterback, and over time you have to learn how to deal with that and how to move on and get through it and

know what you're seeing. So it's not really a question. Just as it couldn't be asked today, it's not going to be able to be answered in one week, I guess, is my point. And everybody wants to know that there was excitement that he was a franchise guy for the first four weeks and then he had a bad game, and now he's not, and they want to know now is he going to be a franchise guy? How he

plays in Cincinnati will decide that. And the problem in this day and age is there's six days between NFL games, and he used to have six days of writing in the newspaper about it and sort of calmness. Now you've got six days of Twitter and instant analysis, and everybody wants to have it take saying this is the guy, this isn't the guy. Um, So everybody wants to play off one game and make these huge, swathing decisions over

a guy's career. It's not going to be that way for Gardener, just as it wasn't that way for Nick Foles, wasn't that way for Peyton Manning's rookie. When they wait for Aaron Rodgers in his third year, this is gonna play out. I think he's gonna be okay. I think he's gonna be good. And how he responds to all this over the next two or three weeks will be the first indications of how good. But we're not going to have the ultimate answer, just as we couldn't ask

the ultimate question day of him. I couldn't stand there and say, hey, Gardner, are you gonna be a franchise guy? That's gonna happen on Sunday. That's what everybody sort of wants to know, But that answer isn't available yet. It would help if the Jags can still consistently run the football. And you know, I think to write right there lasting the league against the run, They're enormously lasting the league against the run. They are as bad as anybody's been

over the last few games. They've Yeah, they've got some issues going on there Leonard. Even last week it was there were times where he was running well, but they just couldn't get to the point where they could run enough, you know, And that's what they need to be doing, is getting those third downs, keeping drives alive. They had a lot of three and ounced early in the game.

They couldn't really establish anything. Last week, still had seventy two yards forty six in the receiving yards, So I mean, a pretty good day at the office for Leonard. But this feels like a game where you can really make hay in the running game. Yeah, and that's always uh, it's always dangerous in this league to say, well, this team is starting gets the Rhun, we want to run, so we're gonna be able to run, because usually teams

can take that away if they want to. Even if they're bad against the Rhun, they can if they know what you want to do, they can slow it down enough where it's not gonna be this monster game. I don't expect four yards rushing against Uh. The Bengals. Interesting about the running game to me, though. JP was listening to Doug on Monday when he talked to the media. Doug's usually not one two come out and make bold

statements if he really doesn't believe it. And he talked a couple of questions on Monday about liking where he thinks they're going with the running game. He feels like they're much better than they were early in the season. He likes what he's seeing it out of the blocking. When breakdowns happen, it's only one or two things. It's not like the entire play is breaking. Now when they're watching film, they can see things going in the right direction.

I don't know what that will mean for the Bengals game. I think they're gonna beat the Bengals because I don't think are very good right now. I don't know what it will mean for the running game in that game, but what you heard him say could bode well, especially when you come find it with how Leonard's running. I think they feel like the running game has a chance

to get going and be something really productive. This time last year, it would have been hard to say that because Leonard was hurt, he was bulky on the hamstring all year, and they had so many offensive line injuries. I'm not sure last year they ever got to a point of feeling out like they were close to being what they wanted to be in that area. This year, you feel like they are, which could be one of those hidden things that we're talking about in a few weeks.

Hey remember when they thought they were close, turns out they were right. It's it's an area to watch over the next month. Jaguar's defense, obviously, the spotlight will be on the secondary moving ahead here. Trey Herndon will fill in that spot that Jayala Ramsey vacates. But you got a j Boye on the other side, who has been around here for a few years now, and then the safety is on the back end, and they feel confident, at least they say they're confident they can go out

there and play as a unit. Yeah, there's a there are some pieces there. It's just as a J. Boys sat in the locker room today, so striking that a J talked about seeing a picture of the two thousand seventeen secondary said he saw one this morning and he was talking about a C. Aaron Colvin Buried Church Get. I mean the tightness of that group, Um, the production, the energy that it felt when it came together. Uh, boy, times change in the NFL fast, and now they've got

a group that very unproven at at best. You I haven't added up to start. When you add up Ronnie Harrison starts, Uh, Trey Herndon's and Will Stared Wilson's, I'm not sure they even get to sixteen total. If they do, it's close. So you're talking about three really either rookies, young guys in experience with boy a Um, yeah, the best player in secondary is probably Jay Hayden right now.

And uh, you know, there are pieces, but to me, it's really up to a miles Jack and good to continue getting better at linebacker and in this going into this season, the strength of this team is supposed to be the defensive line. It hasn't played to that yet clearly.

For the for the next four or five games to be what this team needs, which is to win three or four and get back into it, the defensive line has to be what we thought it was gonna be before the season and what it really hasn't been so far. Quick look at the Cincinnati Bengals, of course, oh and six. They have struggled to do much on either side of the ball really, I mean especially on the defensive side. Their last league against the run, they struggle in the

run game. On offense, they do throw the ball around a little bit, but other near the bottom of most any statistical category. So that's six games. It stats all that. They will have the quarterback right, Andy Dalton. How well is he playing that's up for debate. But um, he's been there for a while now. He's been the guy

in Cincinnati for a number of years. This which is the May I mean he was drafted I believe the year I got back to Jacksonville two thousand and eleven, and I remember writing stories when I first got back about Dot Dalton in the draft, and I would the Jaguars take him if he was available in the second round. Uh. They wind up taking Blaine Gabbert in the first, so that I went out the window. But um, he was the guy a lot of Jaguars fans sort of liked,

and you know as the second round pick. I've been a very good player throughout his career. Uh, three Pro Bowls. Yeah, I mean he's he's what you want. Um. The Bengals right now are your prototypical first year coach rebuild team. They've been close a few times. Uh, the record is probably a little worse than the actual team. They've had three games, Uh, could have slashed, should have won. So I don't think they're a team that's gonna go winless.

I don't think they're gonna push that envelope. At some point they're gonna get one. So in that sense, they're dangerous because you're going to Cincinnati if you're the Jaguars, and if you lose this one to meet, the season is done. I mean, I don't think you come back from this because that puts you at two and five. And the a FC lost, and then even if you win these next two before the by you're still only four and five. This is one Againstown six team. Oh

in six team that you have to win. Uh. They're beat up. They're not doing very well against what you think you do well, which is runs. So uh, you know, boy, this is one they need. It's kind of obvious, but to me, when you looked at the season once Foals got hurt, I thought they needed to get to five and four. But when I did all that math, three of those five wins I was talking about, we're in the next three weeks, so these are the ones you

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by the Fields Auto Group JP Shadrick, John Osan. The Jags and the Bengals coming up this Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium, the banks of the Ohio River and Cincinnati Audio on my phone, j V. Don't what that thing whip you? Why not just turn turn this down? Good idea, good idea. Let's take a look at the a f C South standings. The order has not changed over the last couple of weeks. In BacT Houston is playing some good football, so they're up at the top of the division.

Now forward to Indie three and two. They were off last week, the Jags and the Titans two and four, and the Jags have that one division win and one division loss to get ahead of Tennessee at the bottom of the division. Games coming up this week, there are a few in this division that will be certainly of interest to watch, starting of course, with the Jaguars Bengals game one o'clock kick off, and Say and Sonantity the Texans at the Colts and this should be a pretty

good football game at Lucas Oil Stadium. The Chargers visit Nashville to face the Titans at two and four a Texas Colts game. This is one of those where the culture coming off of by and they're at home and here we go. It should be a good one. Somebody's gotta win, and somebody's gotta lose JP or they could tie, They can tie, or they get tied. Uh. You know, I feel like and I feel like it's before the seas I emails over the off season. You like me

saying it. I felt all along like the Texans were the best team in the division, like they're especially once the luck retired. They were the team you had to beat. Uh. And as much as people don't like hearing that around here, they keep winding up in the playoffs and and and they keep being tough for this team to beat me and the Jaguars. So until they prove you differently than they're still the team you have to be. I think they're good. I think Shaun Watson's having a good year.

H So I expect him to go win that game because I still think at some point the Colts a very good roster. Uh, there's gonna be games this year. I feel like they will lose that they would have won head luck been there. That still has to bite them a little bit. So like there's probably one of those games that bites them. It's not a little call,

thank you. The Chargers coming all the way to to Nashville, Um, and they're just to beat up football team and things in l A are weird, and but they're going on the road in Tennessee has their own issues. They had to put Mariota on the side. Yeah, the Chargers, Um, you know, one of the NFL is great mysteries right now. Uh, the injuries have hurt. I'm still surprised that with Philip Yer's a quarterback that they're struggling to this degree at

two and four. But for them, it's you know, you're going against a team play and a half to you feel like the Charges that go in that because of the mess of the Titans quarterback position. Uh, and you would certainly think that Philip Rivers goes across the country and wins that. I can't see the Chargers sliding out of it early this year, although they're getting close. They're on the way, I guess right now, let's get to our players to watch for the Jaguars this Sunday. UM.

We usually pick one side of the um. One from each side of the ball is usually how we do it. John, would you like to get a start? Sometimes it's two from one side of the ball, but depends on what we're feeling that week. Yeah, let's flash the graphic up their second yours. De'cisly, who I picked him wait order for net to me, is the most interesting story in the team this year in the way that he has responded to what happened last season. And I get the

worst sort of past that storyline. But he's to the point now where he is the most reliable, uh, a solid player on the offense, and to the point where I think if he doesn't have six eight yards in that range, then the offenses in a lot of trouble. He's got to the point where you expect that out of him again. I would expect that he has a big game this week. Considering the angles are struggling, I

don't know it's gonna be a two yard game. But considering all things we talked about earlier in the show, as well, as they feel like they're getting to running the ball, I'm sure they will try it with him. They feel like they should have some success with him. And again he's gotten to the point where he is a key to the offense again every week. You hoped last year that he would be. You kept waiting for it, but you couldn't feel confident in it. Earlier this year,

you weren't sure about it. Now he's proven that he's back where he belongs in that category. He's been speaking on Thursdays and I cannot wait for tomorrow's just to see his response to everything that happened with Jalen and the social media post the last couple of days, if you're into that, And he's just been a pleasure to to hear talk on Thursdays in general anyway, So with all this happening, I think it'll be fun to borrow. Yeah, and he has I haven't talked to him about it

for a story specifically, but he's been interesting. I've heard a couple of different things he said about leadership, and uh, I think people are surprised. I'm a little surprised at how much he has accepted that role. Maybe the word is embraced, you know, this year been willing and acknowledging. There's a certain dynamic when guys are getting approach in

the locker room after a game. Some guys don't like doing it, don't want to do it, but the veteran leaders on the team, you've been in this environment before where even after a loss, you know, there's there's sort of a deep sigh, Okay, I've got to go do it. Leonard has never this year once tried to act as if it's as if he's not going to speak after a game. He acknowledges that it's his role and and he needs to be a guy standing up and uh,

you know, you know, taking on that responsibility. And I think the last December you'd have been shocked if he would have if I had told you he was going to be a guy who was willing to do that and felt like that was his role and felt it was important. Not much felt important to him last year, or it didn't feel from reserving like he felt much was important. And this year he's taking a lot of responsibility for those things. And as I said multiple times,

it's a remarkable turnaround because it feels real. It feels like something that he understands and has grown into. And it's cool to see, especially when you saw something not quite so cool develop on the other side of the ball. And I'm talking thank you if you missed that evidence, thank you. Um your other player to watch this week, sir? On defense, he's a rookie. He's on the defensive line. Oh, Josh, Yes, I'm sorry, I was. I had. I've been considering discussing

Trey Herndon here and I thought it was too obvious. Uh, Josh Allen because everything going on with Jalen and because they've been losing, I think it's been almost lost a little bit. How well he's playing, how consistent he's been, and how reliable he's been for a rookie. You know me, JP, I'm usually whatever you get out of a rookie, no matter what it is, pure gravy. Josh shows up every week.

He seems to be developing very quickly in terms of having reliable pass rush moves, in terms of knowing what he needs to do succeed. Uh. It's it's too bad for him that they're not four and it's too bad for everybody they're not four in too, But it's too bad for him that they're not four and too because I think his production and his uh preparedness or his

ability to play well early would be more acknowledged. I think he's getting lost because of the the Jaguars record and be surprised at this point if he didn't have eight or nine sex by the end of the year. And he sure looks like a guy who is uh everything they wanted him to be. I expect him this week against Cincinnati to have a couple of game breaking type plays, if it's not a sack bumble, to get some pressures

that matter, because that's what he's been doing. You've got for that and Josh Allen my two guys to watch this week. Let's start with a j boyer in the secondary, and then we've mentioned earlier with Jayla Ramsey now traded

to the Los Angeles Rams. He's kind of the guy on the outside seventh NFL season, now third with the Jags, and you see what he's done this Year's had a couple of moments this year where he kind of looked like the guy from two years ago where he was a second team All Pro and I had a fantastic season as part of that great secondary two years ago. Uh, there's there's been some of those moments. He battled through

the hip thing early in the year. I think now I don't want to call it his secondary, but it darn close, right, And it's probably fair to acknowledge that he was hurt a lot last year, and when guys don't talk about it, sometimes that gets lost and you just started say what, they're that same player they were. Uh, sometimes we forget how much injuries matter because this is a physical game, or if you're not underprestenting to be

hard to play it. And looking back, he was probably pretty hampered with that and probably get some criticism last year that uh, you know fair and fran and know what that means. But but probably would not have gotten it had not been injured. So I agree with you he's key going forward because now I don't know that he's a takeaway the side of the field guy like Jalen was. But they're gonna ask him to do that a little bit and you know if if if he

can do that, they're that much better. Joan Taylor offensive line my other player to watch this week. If they're gonna run the football, well he would you have a big hand in that. You know what happened last week, Cam Jordan got him a couple of times. Rookie right tackle, that will happen from time to time, but he has been a solid player so far for the Jags, trying to work on the penalties and and get that toned down that happens with a young player as well sometimes.

So I like him a right tackle obviously, the Jaguars like him there, and I think for this week's success, I think Joan is gonna have a nice game. All

right tackle has been has become a tough spot. And because of this, in the old days or you never put your pass rusher over the right tack correct So a lot of times guys would be you draft your left tackle in the first round and usually got your right tackle in the second or third round, and you could start him because he wasn't gonna play the best pass rusher, and you didn't get exposed when now guys

are flipping their pass rusher all over the field. And Jowan Taylor a guy who probably would they would have loved to have had a year where he could develop a little bit and then come into a second year like second round picks used to. Well, now you're playing and playing some top pass rushers, which is his position, never used to. I still think he's gonna be fine. He's run up against some really really good players who

have got him a little bit. I haven't heard anything from coaches that make me think that he's not gonna be really really good. They still are very high on him, like here's better than mine. But thanks man, appreciate that. Let's come back. Jimmy Luck will join us head equipment manager will unveil what the Jaguars will wear Sunday in Cincinnati. Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network. You can step up to luxury now. Hello,

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equipment manager. Hello, Jimmy, how are you doing? Great? Man? What's going on? Not much at a trade? Uh no, I'm you're good. I don't need to be making any kind of demands. Uh yeah. So let's take us through that on the equipment. So what you guys have to

clean out the locker and do all that stuff. He doesn't come in and do all that, right, And how it was what we do is we basically get in touch with their equipment guys, um kind of like at the same time, and uh, we'll overnight like his shoulder pads and some cleats and stuff that he needs right away, and then we'll box up the rest of it and send it out his gloves, cleats, anything it's got in his locker. And that's pretty much any player in that

situation you get, yeah, yeah, pretty much yeah. Yeah. We like said, we always try to get them their shoulder pads as quick as possible, so that way that you know, if they need to figure out jersey and stuff, we send a sample of his jersey, um, just because he does a little funky thing with the sleeve, so just so that way they could take a look at it. Just try to help him out, because it's one of

those things that it goes around. I mean, we'll end up picking up somebody last minute like that, and we'll need to help. So you just kinda keep paying it forward and you're hope. I mean, at some point everybody's arrival, but everybody's professional that knows, but I would the other guy's job is yeah, I mean it's you try to help each other out, you know. It's um. Actually I had just seen their equipment guy the day before at an NFL meeting in Chicago, so yeah, so it was

all good there. I think they're actually got a big week. They're going to Atlanta this week, staying there and then going to London. They played the week before we do What's happened with the c b A. You're in Chicago, do you get any That was no, that was I think they were doing that one somewhere else that was a different They didn't come by others. The one person we need to talk to came in over video conference. We were pretty low down the totem pole there. So

the Jags are headed to Cincinnati. I will say I did read that the Bengals are wearing black jerseys. So well, the Jaguars were this Sunday, Jimmy Luck, it's gonna go with the white pants. Okay, white pants. And also since you said they're wearing black, wearing white and he waits all week. Yeah, and then literally five seconds before you so white over white whatever. White got a little Josh Allen kind of local, you know, Kentucky hour or so down the road. Sure, yeah, he was one of my

players who watch this week. If you need that, I don't know, but you like this player better though I did not, now not now your Yeah, I liked yours better. That's why Josh Allen often good start four sacks, Yeah they are, so we'll be wearing all white. You could have also picked Andrew Norwell, he's from Cincinnati. Did not know that about that? I did not know. I know he went to a house state, but I didn't know he's from. Since yes, well now you know. Now you

know where's Josh from? Is he from? Since he's not from the High now he's from New Jersey, that's right, Yeah, that's right. And then then grew spent some time in Alabama as well, and then was in Jersey. That's right, all right? White on what looks great? Jimmy, way to go. I appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Jimmy look head equipment manager with this teach and every week Chris Conley, Jaguars wide receiver, joins us with a surprise guests from

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the Field's Auto Group on a Wednesday. And it's a busy schedule of Daily's Place coming up tomorrow the Zach Brown Van Chicago October eight, Young Tuck Machine Gun Kelly October nine, and this is best Deal October twenty six, tickets to Daily's Place, Dots' go to Yeah there you go, and that what sting is coming up in November. I think, yeah you da, there you go. Thank you. Chris Conley coming up a very special guest, surprise guest from the locker room will join us and whenever they get out

of meeting, So that could be at any moment. So coming up. So Jags are tuned for um what is the on the defensive side of the ball. It seemed like a solid game last rook for this group. Overall, right, they slowed down Chamara. He seems to be hampered though a little bit now just reading the reports from New Orleans this week. Moving ahead and the next couple of weeks, they're gonna have some issues, it sounds like with him.

But they did slow him down. They didn't let the receiver go offer a huge game, he got some Teddy held the ball a good bit and you know, they played a solid game. They needed that game after the weeks prior to that. Camara was clearly hampered, clayly hampered, and there were some moments late in the game where you'd have liked to have gotten off the field better against the Saint Um. The bottom line is, you hold any team in this league to thirteen points and you've

done your job. I it was. It was a fine game by the defense. It wasn't one that will be writing about in ten years as as as a generational game, but it was fine. It was good enough to win. And uh, you know, I think right now it's what the defense is. I don't think they are not the elite unit that we thought they were going to be before the season. I think a lot of people, including myself,

misjudged that a little bit. But they're not awful. They're a defense that probably eight or nine times this year we'll play the kind of game that did the other day. They already done at three out of six. You know, they've held opponents three times to twelve I'm sorry, thirteen thirteen and seven at a six game, Well, you know that's good. The other games have not been good. So I think it's probably what you're gonna get from this defense.

I think it's gonna be eight or nine games really good. Uh, seven or eight that are not so great because right now, um, the personnel is not what it was in two thousand seventeen. You know you the offensive line is not playing in waves. Uh you had Miles Jack, piz Lesnie, and Telvin in seventeen. Now you've got Miles Jack out of that bunch. Uh naj good. I don't think he's putting the class at the other guys, although he played well the other day.

And the secondary is now a J boy A and three guys that excuse me that you're waiting to see what they me that you wait to see what they are. But the counter to that is the offense at times can score enough to get them even with the other team's offense. So it's gonna be up for this team to figure out a way to win a lot of close games. Um, but that's what the NFL is. They've they've shown they can do that. They just have to do it more consistently. Are weekly co host on this program.

Is Jaguars wide receiver Chris Conley, and he joins us. Now the meetings are over, he has a special surprise guest from the locker room today. Chris, First off, how are you doing? What's going on? Man? Which I am doing extremely well? And you know I'm doing so much better now that I can be joined by this awesome

and amazing guest today. You know, I'm just so excited to have someone of this caliber sit in that chair opposite of me, you know, going oh, I mean, obviously you guys, you know, someone who just you know, went to a school that embodies everything about college football that just might be wrong, but it's still just such a wholesome and awesome person to be in a locker room with. You know, it isn't that nice of you? I know, it's correct, It's it's amazing. This is this is awesome.

LAURENTI McCree, how are you, sir? Doing well? You know, any time, anytime I get to come into a football with you guys, you know, it's it's awesome. Glad to have you anytime. Um, and Chris is certainly glad to have you to it sounds like, yeah, I wish it would have been a couple of weeks later, but I mean I'll talk again. We can talk again. Obviously, the Florida Georgia, you guys sit across from each other, lockers are literally How is that going to be in a

couple of weeks? Um, I think it'll be a lot of orange blue in that corner. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see. Uh huh. Let's start with the big story today, the reaction to the jail and Ramsey trade. Um, how was it? We saw in the open media time, guys were kind of they weren't really on jail and too much. They were happy for him moving forward and then the team can move forward to Cincinnati and onto the rest of the season. Is that an accurate portrayal? What are you

guys feeling? Offensively? That's you know, where we're at. We don't really have time to to register or sit back and and really take time off right now. We have to move forward. We have to get a game plan ready, you know. And obviously it's probably different for the defense, and you can get that perspective from Lorente, But offensively, man, we gotta we gotta lock in and get ready for Cincinnati. Good player, but he's not around anymore, Lorenta, Does that

mean to you guys? Definitely, guy, we're gonna miss um when you're dealing with one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Man, we're definitely gonna Misshie of the defensive side of the ball. I mean we were able to, you know, call the defense a little bit differently, you know, throughout different teams and throughout the game. So I mean, it's definitely definitely gonna miss him. Is it frustrating? Though?

At times when the way it went down the last few weeks, Um was with him out to the side and then not participating and wanting to be traded actively saying that week do we do you guys hear all that stuff and how do you block all that away? I mean we kind of we kind of just isolated it. I mean, we just deal with deal with the game plan one week at a time. We weren't really focused on Jayalen. You know, we didn't really make a big of an issue as they made it outside. You know,

he's he's a team player. We got three guys on the team. He's one of the guys. If he had a personal issue, whatever he was dealing with, you know, that was his issue. You know, we just compartmentalized and just move forward. You know, I believe that people on the outside, you know, they pretty much scrutinized that situation more than it actually wasn't it. And Chris, is it a case of it's a business or is there anything of he didn't want to be here? Still we're done

with it? I mean, or where do you draw the line on that? Or does it even something you think about? I think as players we have to realize that this is a business. But this game is a business, and you know, with the things that he was dealing with in the situation that he was in, we have to make sure that we don't judge that situation, that we don't judge him because at the end of the day, that's my teammate, you know, And and Jalen and I had a rocky start here in Jacksonville. We had a

very competitive rivalry going through camp. But he's he became one of those guys that I grew to respect a lot and to respect that a way that he came in and the way that he prepared, and I had to myself make sure that I wasn't judging his situation, make sure he was doing what was right for him. Ultimately, the team did what was right for the team, and you know that's it. I wish him the best and uh, as he's moving forward, I hope he plays lights out, you know, until we meet him. But um, we gotta

move forward and do what we gotta do. It's onto Cincinnati, is um, Bill Belichick once said. And then that's where those teams going this week, this offense. So Chris struggled last week to find that consistency and move the ball a bunch of three and outs early, couldn't find the rhythm. And then when she can't get those third downs and the running game can't get going, and it just didn't really seem to find much life last week. How do you guys get back on track with that this week?

How do you do that? Really, just being your toughest critic, when you come in and you watch the film and you have a day like that, it happens, and there are times where you're out of rhythm and there are times where it's a lot harder to get going. You have to be brutally honest with yourself as to why that happened. Why did we have drive stallers. Why did

we have penalties at certain times? Why did we have some place that we're really close to popping but they didn't quite pop. You have to be brutally honest about those things, and then you have to go back to the drawing board. Maybe reinvent some things, maybe change some things up a little bit, but when you come down to the basic, you have to make sure that you are fundamentally sound and everything that you do. If you're fundamentally sound, you can move the ball, you can sustain drives,

you can't get some sort of points. And that's what we gotta do. Get back to the basics and make sure that we're focusing on little things. I know you get worn out on always asking questions about Gardener, but he's the quarterback and this was his first real tough game in the NFL. How has he responded this week? Do you like what you've seen from him in terms

of approach? It's it's been really good. I feel like Gonner has picked himself up and his message that he's been relaying to guys in the locker room is whatever we do this week, let's get better. Whatever happened this past weekend, whatever mistakes that were made, whatever the score was this that, whatever we didn't do, Let's make sure this week we get better. Let's get better at the

things that we weren't as good as last week. And so as we've been moving through the meetings today, as we moved through practice today, he just continued to echo, let's just get better. Let's just get a little bit better at this, Let's just get a little bit. And I like that that is a sign of that's good leadership coming from a young guy being able to like scope and zoom in on something so simple that can motivate people. And that's really going to be helpful this week.

I want to hear about y'all's section of the locker room. It's gotta be you know, you guys are on the same areas. You get to know each other well, you get to know a j what is that group like and how much interchange is there between you two guys, because I get the feeling there's quite a bit even beyond Ford to Georgia, A give and take over there, man, I'll call I'll called the game last week when something went down there, when they went down there and beat them boys. So okay, A j next to me, So

I was, yeah, that's South Carolina. They took care of my boys. But you know they'll bounce back, They'll be all right. I actually forgot. We actually have a j and we have Cam. We got Josh yeah, Kentucky. Yeah. This that our corner of the locker room is. And got SEC football to corner. Yeah. And so everybody's got an opinion. Everybody's got an opinion, everybody's got something to say.

Everybody does not back down from an argument. But that's what makes our corner of the locker room the best corner of the locker room, you know, because we played real college football. You know what I mean? Right, what does this mean? Okay, great Alabama, I get it. Yeah, the whole SEC room. Sure, I think you're gonna get me by LSU. I agree with that. I think this could be the year because l s you can throw the ball around Florida, l SEC champion. Quite possible, Quite possible.

If that happens, you just want Leonard as far away from that side as I think. I get my money back. So what all right? Do you guys you have any questions for Laurenta or do you have any questions for Chris. This is kind of how we do this. Sometimes we let you guys kind of go out of here. If you're gonna ask me a question, just make it, make it the good one, because this is your chance, this is your moment right now. Keep it clean. Already, I

already have any questions. I mean, I'm just you know, anxious to see, like should I get some Jordan shoes for you to wear? You know, like, what size do you wear? What'side sho? Do you wear? Thirteen? Okay, I go about you. I got some blue Jordans for you. What about you? What size do you wear? What's size? T? Shirt? Body? It doesn't really matter, headband. I won't be wearing that stuff, you see. Any have a question? Yeah? I want so? Should I have you weared in London? Because we played

in London? You know, after they play right now? I want all the smoke. So if that's what we is that, if that's what we're doing on Rocking Women, what we're making this official on the show. Yeah here on the on the show. So I guess we gotta wear it. What what the whole time in London or what a day or two in London? I would say, you wear it we're in London, then where it once we get

back on Monday. Okay, so maybe on this show a day in London the day when we get back, the loser of that game has to rock whatever gear the other person gets on. I'm cool with that. I like that, you know, I like it. You know, some people shy away from from these, you know, gentlemen's agreements. They don't

really they can't really get behind their team. I really like it when someone, regardless of what their team looks like, whatever the situation is, can get behind their team and that you know, we're not throwing a bunch of money on this bat, but I mean, you know, it's it's still a it's still a good competitive situation. And I like competitive situation from last year that it's a long story, but Florida overachieved let's say last year. That's okay defensively

for this team. You know, this is a game where you guys kind of got back on track as a whole unit. It felt like last week against New Orleans. It didn't win the game, obviously, but for the most part of the day, you did what you wanted to do against the Saints. Is that is that more what you guys, I feel like you're back to now. Is this gonna be a week over week thing for you guys? Do that? I mean, we just got to be consistent.

I mean today we went out, we had a good day today in practice, and tomorrow we gotta go out and have another good day, and then on Friday we had to put it all together. So we basically just gotta take it one day at a time. Just come in, like he said, get better at something, a small thing, and that's going to be be able to create consistency throughout the year. So I mean, the best team that wins the super Bowl is not the best team in

September or October. It's the best teams in December and January that usually go on to go to the super Bowl. So that's what we're doing. We're trying to consistently go up that roller coaster and get to the top, not go all the way to the top and then have a fall. You've been with Joe D a long time, Yeah, Special teams coordinator. Yes, all right, Is there any good Joe D story that you can share on the air that you can share? I mean there's the internet, I guess,

uh I'll just stay away from that today. You guys, over the years, he's a great guy to play for special teams guys, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, why, Um, he's just he's one of the best special teams coaches you know there is in this NFL. You know, Um, he just he just does all those things. I mean, he puts you in the best position. He breaks down film, he's always studying. He's always has a good assistant that helps him out. You know, he draws a good play cards,

he has a good you know, he he knows their tennessee'es. Um, you know, he knows their best players. He he pretty much knows the bottom half of every team roster in the NFL. So that's that's really important. To be the special teams coordinator. You have to know their deficiencies as an athlete. You know, so that you your team can go out there and dominant. You have to know if they're good in space. You got to know if you

know they get tied up on blocks. You have to know if they can move, you know, in space as they're blocking you on on kickoff return. You gotta knows a guy he's a straight line guy. You have to know a lot of different stuff. So he's real good at, you know, going in and setting up. I think he can be approach scout because he's good at diagnosed and talent and he always keeps it even even key all right, right right, it gets a little wired of but I mean,

you gotta you gotta love him. I mean, it's just a guy that you want to play for us, a guy that you one of your fox sol You know, you know he means well. You know, even if he says something bad, you know it's coming from a good place. So you just gotta respect him. You gotta respect his attitude coming into work every day. Alright, final thoughts, You're going to Cincinnati, and this is a stretch. I know

we look game to game. We've had this discussion on this program before, one game at a time, one game at a time. But Chris, this is a stretch where you know, two and four, it's early, there's a lot of football left we played. What do you feel about the next few weeks here? About getting back to you know, I can't necessarily speak as to the next few weeks here, but I can speak as to the next few days.

You know, this team has to lock in, put together a couple more good practices like we had today, and then the big thing for this team where we are right now is we just let have to let those practices translate into the game. There's not one person who can tell me that this defense, that special teams and offense have not worked their butt off this offseason, this season, preseason and every day in here studying, going out there and giving it all. They got out in the heat

getting ready for these games. But now we're at the point where we have to let those things translate. When once you let them translate, those plays start to fall, start to fall your way, and you go from being an R right team to a really good team, a really hard team to beat. And so that's where we want to go right now. And you know, I can't speak for the weeks to come, but I know that this week we're trying to get back on track. This

is a get back on track week. This is a get back on track game, and you know we just gotta not You can't be afraid to let it translate. Can't be afraid to let great things happen because of your hard work. I love it. Big game this Sunday, one o'clock Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, Laurenti McCrae. Always good to see you and talk about with you. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming in many, no problem, Thanks for having great talking about what you learned. McCrae and Chris Connie,

we'll talk to you next week. Man, it sounds like a plan. There he is for John Osier, our entire crew. Thank you for watching. I'm JP Shatrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network.