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J.P. Shadrick and Jeff Lageman are joined by senior writer John Oehser to review Owner Shad Khan's comments from Monday on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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It is Tuesday, December fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who would be saying his tenth reindeer, but well he's sitting next to Lockerman J P. Shad Rick. There are nine reindeer. Is that accurate? Oh, rudolphs Tonight welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J. P. Shadrick. We've got a busy show ahead, busy two hours in fact, Well, it's Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman. He's with us. He'll join us here in just a moment. Jaguars dot Com seenior

writer John Oser joins us at four fifteen. He was aboard Kismut yesterday some media members invited to visit with Jaguars owner shot Con today, the tenth anniversary of the approval of his purchase of the Jaguars. We'll get John Oser's taken what Mr Kan had to say recapping week fortan. Of course, the Titans over the Jaguars twenty nothing will put that one to bed, thank goodness. And we'll look

ahead of week fifteen. The Texans come to town to face the Jaguars, a battle of two and eleven teams and at five o'clock the Urban Meyer Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. We'll hear from Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer. Of course, the Jags fell this past week twenty to nothing, the first shutout lost for the Jaguars since two thousand nine.

For the third time this season, they were held to under two hundred yards, only eight rushing yards on eight rushing attempts total, both of those franchise lows all time. The defense doing what they can. It was their second best day in terms of total yardage allowed for the season, two d sixty three yards, good in the quick change

category after the second half interceptions by Trevor Lawrence. Just not enough full complementary team football this past Sunday, of course, and the Jags take another l in the season, their second, the second five game losing skid of the season. Rban Meyer after the game, I'm talking with Shot Khan about his belief of turning it around. I assured him that

we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast, you know that depends on Once again, I still think there's good pieces you watched, and you watched out there today, Miles Jack and that defense and some of those kids. Uh Roy Smoot. I mean I was those guys are playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it.

So what's the answer. Start leaking information or some nonsense. No, no, that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that. I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No, Let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy

very little my time. And if if there is a source, that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds, if there's some source that's doing it, that's head coach, are buyer. After the game this past Sunday, we welcome in Jeff Logman, of course, Logs. Good afternoon, first afternoon. By the way, who doesn't know that there's nine Reindeer? Well, okay, I mean it's I mean really, I never really, I guess counted them. I don't know there's nine. He's the ninth.

Rudolph's the ninth, right, I mean, come on, man. Okay, I mean, you know Rudolph with his nose, so Bran, I've heard the song, Yes, you never sang the root and you know the song that has the names of the previous eight you never Christmas is coming? Right? When's the Christmas again? Okay? Good this year? Good? Good to know. Um Saturday reports going into Sunday's game about the tension on the staff and the story weekend, and then Sunday's

game happened. The Jags were shut out this week and today. In fact, shot Con talking to the media yesterday the tenth anniversary of his ownership, and Con said that basically he's going to do what's best with the team in the city moving ahead. He's not impulsive. This losing now is different than the losing in the past because there's a lot of attention on it and because of the things going on outside the team. There's a lot happening here.

Well yeah, I mean there's a lot happening. And I think part of this too is the level of disappointment, because when when you reset the franchise, so to speak, and that you have the first overall picking the draft and you bring on this new regime, you expect some type of improvement, and especially when you get down the stretch in December. I mean, what you expect that the first overall pick quarterback, Trevor Lawrence to start showing sign of making progress. And this past game was once again

a very large step back. And I still believe in him. I'm not saying that I don't believe in him and that that he doesn't have all the tools that that are required to be a great quarterback. But it's just it looks bad. And I think it also what looks bad is that you have all these reports and then

you have another offensive performance that is not good. And then on top of that, there are only eight rushing attempts for eight yards against a Tennessee football team that's not exactly scoring a lot of points recently, and they're missing a lot of weapons. So and the and the talk was prior to the game. When I say the talk, you know, Erman was talking about, hey, we need to get back to the foundation of what we are. You know, we wanted to be a team that runs the football

and gets behind the offensive line. But you only have eight carries and one of those was actually a scramble by Trevor Lawrence. So there's really only seven called offensive runs in the game and a lot of throws and it was a game. It wasn't like the score was ever out of out of wax and nothing in the third quarter. Yeah, so that was confusing, I mean really confusing.

And uh and and I almost it almost felt because you put so much pressure on Trevor to perform, then you had him trying to do too much and then it leads to four interceptions, which it was not all his fault he admitted were obviously well the first one was the first one was not his fault because that was off of the hands of Laviska Chanal. Now, if Lavisca doesn't catch the ball when it's in his hands and he sees it's see that's coming, James Robinson put

the ball on the ground, you know. So this is what people do and rightfully, so if Lavisca lets that ball goes through his hands leads in interception, why doesn't he get benched for twenty reps? I mean, because that's what people are waiting to see what happens, Right, James Robinson puts the ball on the turf and then he comes out for about twenty snaps and then Carlos Hide in the same game, puts the ball on the turf

and he doesn't come out for twenty snaps. And then so I mean, everybody's like, okay, well, what's the punishment for being responsible for a turnover? But the interceptions la Visco that was totally on him on the first one. The second one was a very interesting play and in fact, we're gonna look at this on Jaguars All Access on Thursday night. A little tea s there, but to give it to you in summary, the Titans are shown cover

zero blitz. They're bringing everybody coming or gonna bring everybody. They're showing that they're all coming. Linebackers are walked up to the line of scrimmage and everything, and so he thinks that he's got Tavon Austin man coverage against Kevin

Byrd to the slot on the right side. The linebacker to that side, jay On Brown, comes and then and after drawing the attention of the lineman to make sure that that happens, so that there's none blocked defender that's buzzing now in the face of Trevor Lawrence, he drops out the last minute, gets a hand on the ball, tips to himself makes interception. That's just a great play that happens, and it's a great defensive design but a great individual play. So okay, that's a learning experience for

Trevor that happens. The third interception was I think that was the treadwell on a crossing route and it was a poor decision. The last one was Jadon Mickens doesn't finish the play and it wasn't a wise decision by Trevor to make that throw. But Jadon Mixins now has to become a defensive back. You can't just sit there and accept the fact that this was a bad ball and that I'm not gonna be able to catch it. Okay, I'm not gonna be able to catch it. Now I have to switch my mindset to be from a wide

receiver of catching it. T Now I'm gonna be a defensive back and I gotta break this pass up. And he didn't do it, so but it it was just it was a bad weekend overall on so many different fronts. Because you had the article that was written by Tom Pelicero and NFL dot Com, and Tom is is as reputable as they come. If he wrote it, then then then I believe a lot of the things that he said, and then you had the performance on top of that, and so it just it just doesn't make it better.

And my point was is that you know, you you had so much hope that things were going to get better and now they're not. And I think it just increases the scrutiny on the lack of success and is that right? Wrong and different? It's reality, That's what it is. And that's what Mr Kha was saying. And some of these articles that have come out yesterday and today after his visit with the media, we'll hear from John Osier coming up in just a minute. He was there yesterday.

Get his thoughts and what Mr Kanna had to say. There's a lot to unpack there, of course, about the football team and downtown development and everything moving ahead there. So all right, four games to go. This team has scored nine points a game since the bye week on offense.

I mean, there's not really they haven't shown it, at least recently, a track record of being able to bounce back and do something differently moving ahead, especially the last couple of weeks with the lack of carries and success in the running game JP, the first game of the year, the first game for the young quarterback Trevor Lawrence. How many times did they throw the ball'st one? I mean who? I mean, that's that's crazy. And so you want to

get back to be in your core. Well wait a minute, you really never established it and you should have established it because you have a young quarterback and that's that's the hard part. And the offensive line, Like, that's what I thought. Is that what you want to do with a rookie quarterback in the very first game ever against the Texans team? By the way, that's not very good. I don't think that's very wise. And I think that

brings into question just just like this pass game. And the reason I bring that up is like this pass game, you have seven called runs for the running backs. Is that what you really need for young quarterback? I mean, you're you're you're trying to create and facilitate development and it takes time. Now, is making him throw the ball fifty one times? Is that going to accelerate his development?

I don't think so. I mean it could, it could, because you're asking him to throw the ball a ton, But the problem is that you might risk the opposite effect and that you're not facilitating growth and improvement and that you're encouraging failure and frustration. And so that's I think that an interesting argument back and forth is what

is the proper way to go about it? But it's it's just frustrating JP and I think it's frustrating for everybody involved in the offensive line, which we know that this offensive line is not built to pass protect all day long. They had a bad performance that three out of the five did not play well at all. Juwan Taylor bad game, Andrew Norwell bad game, right guard Ben Barte bad game. Three out of the five. Cam Robinson Okay,

not great, Tyler Shatley, Okay, not great. So if you have five components and three were bad and two were not great, can you win the cancers? No, they can't. And Jeffrey Simmons was it was a man child child. He's a really good player. That's two weeks in a row that a defensive tackle has had a has had his way with the Jaguars offensive line because he went from Aaron Donald to Jeffrey Simmons's in a well, look, Jeffrey Simmons is a really good player too. He's big,

straw a powerful. He's a different player than a Aaron Donald. As quick and strong as an ox, but quick. That quickness and leverage that he plays the game with is so unique. By the way, did you see it last night Monday Night Football? Him through the right guard into the quarterback, walked him back into Kyler Murray? Oh did you see the one that Ben Part's got run over? By the way against Tennessee? Uh? Yeah, I mean that was not a good performance by the offensive line and Tennessee.

And and the reality is this rivalry because it is a rivalry. Every game in division is a rivalry. Write it down. Okay, it's not somewhat of a rivalry. It's a rivalry. And when it is, that means you better strap up. And it's a physical affair. And Jacksonville versus Tennessee is about being physical. And they were not physical in that game. They didn't they didn't have a game plan to be physical, and that was disappointing. Texans have won the last seven meetings against the Jags and eighteen

of the last twenty four. The Jaguars will try to break that trend this Sunday will return in a moment and the Ozone joins us. Jaguars dot Com Senior writer John Osan was a board Kids but yesterday look at his thoughts on Jaguars Owners shot CON's meeting with the media on the eve at least yesterday of his chant anniversary as owner of the Jaguars. Pr I Productions, the official event production company of the Jags, has everything you need to bring your next idea to life. Visit pr

I Productions dot com. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hours Plucked you buy Green Finders homes homes that picked your lifestyle and by Baptist Health, changing healthcare for good Friendly Well about Jaguars Happy Hour Tuesday Afternoon, j P, Shadrick, Jeff Flagerman and that music means it's time for Jaguars dot Com Senior writer John oser I. I typically watched this show from Afar, waiting for my chance to go on like the B

Team tomorrow. It Bucky Brooks that's sitting here with Logs. I mean, this is I'm on his show now now, this is this is a j P show. No no, no, I just work here. This is loggs World. Open the code works right, no doubt so. Alright, today's the tenth anniversary of the shot Con ownership. I sorry believe it's crazy how quick a decade has gone by. And yesterday he hosted a number of media folks on the yacht downtown. You were among those. It's a nice little yacht, not bad.

It's a nice little don't call it a boat. No, I don't know what to call it. It's it's staggering, but it's a yeah. And he uh, yes, spoke to a lot of us about you know, talk to him about the Meer situation, talked about his ten years as owner, uh for about fifty minutes and uh, you know, as I say, I'll be happy to over enough for question. Yeah. So I mean, let's start with the football talk that's

top of mind for everybody. Or Meyers taking heat from all over the place, and that means Sean Kan's taking heat from all over the place as well. How do you respond to some of that on that front like he usually does. Uh, he understands the frustration of fans. Uh, he's his money quote if you will, regarding Urban was He's not gonna make herkey jerky decisions or you know, helter skelter, helter skelter, hookey Jerky's for the same thing.

He's never been one to do that. I can't imagine him ever beyond just the absolute obvious when uh Gus Bradley was was let go. He's not a mid season guy, He's not a after the first season guy. But I thought he was very clear that um when discussing Urban Meyer, he said he's going to make the best decision based on the city, based on the team, etcetera, etcetera. I really didn't think he leaned one direction or the other. So, uh,

you know, there's four games left in the season. Uh, there has been bad looks on and off the field. I think Show just doesn't want to say anything right now. I didn't get a vibe either way. Uh So I guess that's the best answer. I think that's what he was trying to put out that you know, he uh not. You know, I didn't want to say anything yesterday, and

I thought he didn't say anything very tactfully. You go back to what happened in Cincinnati where Urban stayed behind, and then Sean puts out a statement saying that Urban has to earn the respect on the trust back, and he was not did he comment in on any of that in the progress of that really? Um, I thought he might. Uh didn't really talk about that comment. Uh, frankly,

because there's been so much else happened since that. I got the impression that the people asking questions I asked as a couple at the end or one at the end, But it felt like the vibe was more about the reports of the last week and the season overall, And after about twenty minutes, it got more into shot in the city. Uh. The urban Meyer questions were about ten twelve minutes, but it didn't really get to that, didn't get to that comment. Um, I think that's a a

fair question that probably should have been asked. Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osier with us. I saw some of the quotes that came out, and you know, Gus Bradley was here for four years, Doug Marone was here for four years, and it was just the lowly Jaguars out of the way. There wasn't a lot of noise around the organization then. But now, well the Jags are two and eleven and there's a lot of noise and

lot of eyeballs in the organization. Yeah, and I think I read some comments from people taking that a bunch of different ways. I didn't get the feeling that Shod was saying, Hey, I love the fact that there's a lot of eyeballs on the organization becomes of the urban. It didn't feel to me like he was particularly going a direction with that. I thought he was more just making a comment that one reason that these things are getting played up so much and making such national headlines

is because it's Urban Meyer. Uh. That's the price of admission when you hire Urban Meyer, uber successful head coach who is very polarizing. But it I didn't take it to me, and I didn't feel him going a direction of that's bad or good. It seemed to me, and you guys have talked a shot a lot. Sometimes he just sort of states things, and that's what it felt like to me that he was more just making the observation,

here's why this is so high profile. Uh. I didn't feel like he was saying that was bad or good. Here's not a better answer on here's why it's different, and that's that's Yeah. And he's a very analytical, very thoughtful person, and during interviews he does that a lot where he will just sort of talk about Okay, here's why I think it got to this point, won't really offer any commentary on it. And I thought that's what he was doing there. So how was the food and drink?

It was, Well, you've been on kismet, Well this is a new one, I think, right, you know, I don't know from new to good. I know again, it's a staggering piece of machinery. Yeah, it's pretty much. You enjoy You probably fish off that a little bit. Yeah, yeah, let's go a little bit. It was good. It was sliders, it was apps. I mean, it's very much when you get a bunch of the media guys. I'm not sure if you ever saw the movie Caddy Shot, but it's

Caddy Days. It's very much Caddy Day at the pool and uh that's It didn't take long until the staff was like, okay, it's it's time for this to end. And uh, I've by the way, it's fantastic and as you aptly described that perfectly. Uh, John Ozan with a Stagguars dot Com senior writer, you mentioned it. Let's dig a little deeper now into the downtown development portion of this thing. That's the next steps. Of course, football Performance

Center is next up. Their plans in the works for the Four Seasons and the Shipyards property on top of that, and as as Mr Khan said, you know, not a lot in general has happened downtown in the last ten years, but the plan is to make that change very quickly. Well, and you're not getting too much into the details because

then you're getting into the nuts and bolts. But the Four Seasons hotel, in the residential center and the office spaces people see now it he has a vision for what downtown Jacksonville should look like to grow and he used the phrase, uh, aspiration, you know, an aspiration point. Um. You know, it's clear to me that he feels passionately about the Four Seasons working. He made a comment you know his name online. We were talking to a reporter about,

you know, will it work or not? And there's been people in Jacksonville say, well, why should it be here? Mark Lampy made a good point that shod wants it to be here because he believes it can be here and that the city of Jacksonville, Uh, he would like to see it sort of get on board with that idea. That it's okay for this town to have four seasons. When I listened to Shot and talked to him about it, it's a pride thing. He believes in this in this town.

He believes this can work and and I believe it will reshape everything. And uh I thought the other significant thing about this, along these same lines, when they were talking about the stadium renovation, uh Mark Lamping made the comment, feels better about that than he ever has. Uh Mark's not really given to that sort of statement unless he feels pretty strongly about it. To me, I just came away talking about the renovations, talking about the stadium renovations

and this improvement. We just saw they feel better about the direction of this and the possibilities for it. Before I think they hoped and very much believed it would all be a good thing. Listening to them yesterday, there's a firm belief that it's going to happen in some capacity, and they feel good about that direction. You know, I know it's polarizing issue, but I thought it sounded great. I remember in coming here and seeing, unfortunately, yeah, the

whole shipyards area, and I just never forget that. Me and Joel Shmany were having a conversation about, man, we gotta find out how we can, if we can, if that's for sale, I mean, that's like prime river front that needs to be you know, developed out of out it. We thought it would be a hot property and here we are, and at that point that was deep into it years looking as it did. And again that's always Ben SHOT's thing. You know, there's so much potential down here.

Anybody who drives through downtown Jacksonville has to have the thought of, boy, what possibility there is when you talk about a legacy Yeah, I mean if you if you know, you get all this done and you developed that whole you know, this whole area around the stadium, I mean, that's that's a legacy project and remembered for to me. You know. JP read the story this morning, a story

for jawarys dot com. The lead quote I used basically he feels like this is I forget the exact quote, but a possibility and a way to make an impact in a great city, a way to move the needle in a great city. And he use a phrase, how many chances do you get to do that? How many NFL owners, how many teams have this raw material essentially there too grow and you know, because you go to other cities and you just you don't have the state. You don't exactly, you don't have the ability. And he said,

that's what moves the needle. That's what he was asked specifically, why are you so passionate about Jackson's People always question it? And that's what he said, this is a chance to I don't think he used the word legacy. How many times do you get a chance to move the needle in a good way in a great American city? Very rarely? That really is the power here. Yeah, And you know, I get that people want to question everything these days. I've heard him say that over and over again. You know,

I think that's his vision for it, that's his motivation. Yeah, that's how I feel about it. All right, Hey, thanks for the for coming down to the show. By the way, Johnny, did you hear j P turned forty on Sunday? We we we have to. I'll be honest, here's what a big deal that was. I went, you know, he had a happy hour event. I went, jack you's just seen the line at this place? Really it was three blocks Now. My wife and I said, we can't deal it. We're both in our fifties. We can't be out that late.

But evidently it was a shindig man, huh by what happy? But confirm nor deny those those reports. But it is a big number. Yes, congratulations your number, though I'm a little bit behind. John, appreciate it, Man, well done on the reporting. We appreciate that. On Jaguars dot Com, check it out, Jaguars dot Com Senior Writer, we're back in just a moment with a look ahead to the Houston

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I gotta say that I've always been a big fan of John's and John covered the Jaguars as a beat writer back in the early days with Prisco did and then when John left for a while, he was in Indianapolis and was covering the Colts and it was writing for Colts dot com, and then I think also another publication there when they disbanded their in house kind of

writing staff or on the website. And if people have never read John Osher on Jaguars dot com, then they're making a mistake because I literally when we used to prepare prepare for the cults, the cults, pr staff was notorious for having a terrible release to gather information for for a game day broad cast. So what would I do. I would always read John Oshan to get the skinny

on what was going on with the cults. And so, folks, if you want the skinny, and I get the skinny too from John still to this day, go to Jaguars dot com because he's simply the best. Sits right here down the hall, and it does a great job and at it for a long long time and has some good stuff on Jaguars owner shot con the Conversation. I haven't read that, but I will. There's two stories up on Jaguars dot com as we speak. I've been here today working with you, so I'll get to it. I

enjoy this on every time. You're kind of bringing me down. How is that? I don't know, you know, I mean JP or just look the game and the weekend for the Jaguars did not go well. It was bad. It was really bad. And I think that that has totally brought you down a little bit. And then in turn, you're kind of it's like a vicious cycle. Okay, it brought you down, and then I you know, I was there, Okay,

I saw it. It wasn't good. It wasn't a great weekend, and so I kind of bounced back a little bit on Monday, and I come in here and hang out with you and aw and you're trying to bring me down. I'm not It's not accurate at all. First of all, I'm positive guy, and but it's mid December. The team's not playing well and the offense didn't score and no, but there, I'm gonna look, there was a lot of negative to this game. And trust me, I've got a

list of negative here. Okay, their offensive lines performance wasn't well, the Trevor appeared to be taking a step back. The commitment to the run game was not there. Those things are all true and they cannot be denied, and especially on a weekend or the stories that were publishing, it kind of becomes dog piling, I guess. But it's turned. Okay,

it's turned. I mean it, it happens. But I think with all of the negative over the weekend, the one thing that was positive that gets lost in the mix because is of the negativity, which is, like I said, again, it's earned the defensive performance in a game in which the offense did nothing. And it's not the first time that's happened. This not but but here's the reality. The last couple of games, the defense has not been playing

particularly well. Going into that game, I think I threw the number out there and I still got it on my board. Here at the Jaguars defense going into Tennessee in the four previous game had had allowed five seventy five yards rushing on d carries. That's a lot. So they weren't up to the standard that they had said

earlier in the years. But the one category that they have been good at and they were amazing at it in this past game because the offense through and Trevor Lawrence through four interceptions and I'm not gonna say it was all on Trevor the offense through four interceptions. The Jaguars defense responded in the subsequent Titans possessions to only allow twenty one yards and to allow a field goal

three points. That for the season, now, this is an impressive number because the offense has turned it over time. They have only allowed as a defense sixty four points off of those twenty five offensive giveaways. That's amazing, that's really good. And the one thing that's negative that continues to be negative about the Jaguars defense, they're not taking the ball away and that's that's a problem that that they've got to find ways to take the ball away.

And the one number that's disturbing they have one one recovered fumble on the air as a defense getting caused fumbles or recovering fumbles as a defense getting takeaways. That's not a talent issue. That's not that's coaching, and that's attention to detail and that's focus and it's not happening

for the defense. That's the number that bothers me the most as the defense, because you can do that if you if you coach it up and the players have the awareness for it and they and you have players that realize this is what I need to do, like Josh Allen did a couple of weeks ago, punching the ball out, great play. Where is that from other people

on the defense and we're not seeing it. That's clearly an area that Joe Cullen and his coaches coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball can and should get better at, because, like I said, that is not necessarily a talent issue. But the one thing I will say in their defense, takeaways a lot of times happen when the score differential gets in your favor. So in other words, you're winning, teams feel like they have to press, like Trevor did late in the ball game. Well we're

not making anything happen. We gotta force one here, and then all of a sudden you end up finding a way of making an interception or somebody gets careless with the ball because they're trying to do too much because as their teams not playing well, and they're trying to make up for somebody else messing up, and the and the defense doesn't have that ability to be a front running team in a game, to have the opponents make mistakes.

Teams that are playing the Jaguars right now, you know what they're thinking is we score seventeen points, w we want? So they're playing conservative. The Tennessee Titans played extremely conservative. How many balls down the field did you see Tanny Hill thrown up? Hardly any? Because there's a mindset now when you play the Jaguars, and it's the right mindset. Don't make a mistake, Just get enough points. They're not good enough on offense to score. Don't don't beat yourself

against the Jaguars. And that will be the Texans mindset when they come in here on Sunday as well. Let's take a look at the Houston Texans offense, and they are dead last in the league and a number of categories, including scoring. They are two tenths of a point worse than the Jaguars and points per game. They are last in total offense last and rushing offense thirty feet in passing offense um, they've given the ball away twenty times

this season, ten fumbles lost, ten interceptions, which is bottom third. Yeah, you know, so they're not a good offense. They've had so many changes, injuries, guys have moved on. Davis Mills is the quarterback now to him. He just had a seventh start. Yeah, and you know there's talk down there talking to the folks down there today that you know, if this offseason goes a certain way, they might just circle behind him next season. Two. That's all up in

the air. Of course, there's still four games left this season. But last week through over three d thirty yards, touchdown. Uh seven starts, as you said, log sixty six passing in those games and eight touchdowns, eight interceptions. Third round pick this year out of Stanford, So he's he's triggering all this right now. Let me just give you, okay. And in these categories, Davis Mills is better than Trevor Lawrence completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, he's better

in the interception percentage category. His rating is higher. I mean those numbers. When we look at that as Jaguar fans, we go, wait a minute, wait a minute. This this is a third round pick that's playing for the Texans and we got the first overall pick in the draft, and ours is not playing better than theirs. If you look at those numbers, that would bother you, right concerning Yeah, that and that's and that that's I think that's something that's going forward, that that has to be fixed, and

that's not look at the text. You know, people talk talk about and people have used you know, people have used excuses, Oh well, you know we've had injuries or you know, the Jaguars have had injuries, they've lost guys dotata dot name me somebody on the Texans offense. That's a big time weapon. Yeah, you don't have many. I mean there's many. Yeah, I mean cooks. But that's about it. And that's that's stretching it. Okay, yeah, okay then or

I mean is it so? Is is it a weapon's issue for Trevor m That's my point is that you have enough weapons to where the performance can and should be better right now, especially at this point of the season when he has the number of snaps that he has under his belt. That's got to get better for Trevor Lawrence. And I'm not pointing a finger at him. I mean, that's that's that's a finger that gets pointed at the entire process, you know, that gets pointed at coaches,

at at the program, at ever his teammates. I mean, that's better, absolutely Houston defense. I guess what, they haven't played much better than the offense has done in Houston this year. This is far from the Texans defense of about five years ago. All those guys are gone now. They sent away that Cunningham last week. They waived him and supposedly violated some team rules. Tardiness, et cetera was

an issue with him in Houston. Well he's gone. Now he's with the Titans, and they'll get to figure it out. Which Mike Rabel coached him when Mike was a coach with Houston Texans. And so here's here's my thing on that Mike knows him obviously very well if he coached him, and then he picks him up. And that was a waiver claim as it was, And where the Jaguars at in the waiver claim more, they're right up there near the top. I wonder if that was considered just a thought.

I don't know the answer to that. I'm saying that because I can tell you that us Zack Cunningham. I haven't watched him, and I don't know what happened with the issues this year. But when you watch Zack Cunningham, I think it was a second round pick. Maybe a first round pick. I can't remember, because he's a high pick. He's a really good football player, really good football player, can play in space, he's fast, he can blitz, he

can do a lot of different things. And I don't know cat numbers, I don't know guaranteed money because all of those things have to factor in. But when you find out that somebody was available and you go, okay, that was an opportunity for this team to maybe acquire some better talent, I'm going, well, I wonder why they didn't do that. Thinking out loud, is that cutting him? Second round pick out of Vanderbilt? Um? It was the

least leading tackler last year. He's a Pro Bowl at at one point he was considered a Pro Bowl type caliber linebacker. And who is the other guy that was in the middle with him? It was that Cunningham and hard head, I mean, just a tough, physical linebacker. About Bernardrick McKinney. Yeah, those two guys when when when they were you know, with J J and Rciless. I mean that that that was a good defense, good defense, and

that Cunningham was a big part of it. So uh, it will be a totally different looking group when they come rolling in here this Sunday, will return and take a look at the Baptist Health Injury report for the Jags, will look at the a f C South standings though you have a pretty good idea, and we'll get our

final thoughts. And then at five o'clock the Irvin Meyers Show here from the Jaguars head coach, as always on Tuesday afternoon, get his thoughts, final thoughts on last week's game, moving ahead to the Texans, and much much more coming up from the head coach. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour Tuesday afternoon. Coming up in about ten minutes, the

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here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Glad you're along with us. The Baptist Health Injury Report Baptist Health changing healthcare for good. Urban Meyer Monday said Carlos hide was a concussion protocol. Of course. Brandon Linder missed last week's game with a back issue. There are six players on the reserve injured list, and we've got four games to go. We'll maybe get some more from urban Meyer would guess maybe Wednesday when he speaks with the media on the injury set up.

Of course, that's when the the injury report starts coming out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday each week, and as you would expect this time of year logs, you're gonna have a longer list because of the way the season goes. That's what it is. It's just it's this part of it um and it's not easy to fight through. I can tell you that at the end of the year. It when you're when you're losing and then you have physical

ailments on top, it even makes it more difficult. And then, and for part of that reason, that's one of the things I say that this defense should be also not forgotten about how good of a performance that was from this game, because when you have an offense that has had the number of weeks of lack of performance, then it's easy probably just to say, here we go again.

You know, why should I play hard? We don't have a chance, and the the motivation just evaporate eights and for this defense to continue to play as hard as they did, I thought. I thought that was impressive. And some guys that I thought played really well defensively, and I just want to mention some names here, Okay, I thought Campbell played solid. It's not like the Titans were throwing the ball a lot, so it wasn't a lot

of expected out of him. But you could feel the difference that Shaq Griffin provided in that game because he was matched up against Julio a little bit and right from the onset he established with that open field tackle that hey, I'm here to play, and he made a difference. I thought his play was strong. Josh Allen was just kind of that's been about three weeks now, three games for Josh Allen to where you haven't seen a strong performance.

And I'm just thinking out loud here, but at the beginning of the Atlanta game he sustained what appeared to be a shoulder injury. Is that affecting him now and affecting his ability to perform? He's been on the report at least was last week with that. So Damian Wilson had a sack on a blitz tin tackles. I thought he was outstanding, outstanding. Malcolm Brown was solid as normal. I thought, uh week before, pushed around a little bit of the Atlanta game, pushed around a little bit. I

thought he bounced back. Roy Robertson Harris was a beast. I mean a beast, smooth the week before. Strong. The only thing that I would criticize Smooth on is that, dude, you can't line up all sides if you're dropping from the linebacking spot. Come on, man, I can't do that. But he was. But he was strong. He had a good performance again. You know, he got five sacks last year, he had a career high five and a half. He's on pace to have a career high. And I've I

said this last week. He's tough, he plays hard, he's tenacious, and and you gotta love players like him, love him. But Roy Robertson Harris, I think is a guy that when they acquired him, they were talking about how they didn't know how high the ceiling really was us. That game gave you a glimpse of, Wow, this guy could have a much higher ceiling than what they're paying for in free agency. You rarely get that, rarely get that. So I really like his performance, and I think he's

gotten better and better and better. And obviously he had the ankle injury or early in the season, he bounced back from it a little bit, and you could tell that he's kind of fighting and kind of find his way. The last couple of weeks, his performance has been really good, really good. And the one guy, though, I will say that did not have a good performance on defense, Tavin

Bryant was not good, which was kind of surprising. He had been playing okay and and I had a game a couple of games there where he played pretty good. He was not good in this game. And Miles Jack, where where are the impact plays that Miles Jack has made in the past. You know what I'm talking about players on the ball, calls, fumbles, recovered fumbles, interceptions, past defense. It's part of it, the posit issue. He's back in the middle of a three four Now what is it.

It's outside a year ago or no. I just I mean, I don't, I don't think so. I mean they're playing his own defense. You got your eyes back to the to the ball. It's an opportunity to make more plays. And and I just and look, I'm not he's not playing bad. I'm just saying that I thought, and I think he's got another level that the what he what he's the level he sat in seventeen. I haven't seen it, Okay. I was hoping he would be able to get back to some of that and uh not. Not not a

great year for him. You know what the good news is about this defense continuing to improve. But Miles Jack will knock your socks off. I mean he's punishing guys still, He's still extremely physical. But I mean the impact plays, the game changing plays, We're not seeing some of those names you listed off earlier, Robertson, Harris Wilson, Um, the one smoot, they're all on multi of your deals here.

This there's a good core of this defense. It's going to be together for at least another year, if not longer than that of Jack Griffin signed a longer deal. So still need still needs a dominant inside kind of pass rusher that can affect the quarterbacks play. And everybody wants Aaron Donald, but they only got only made one of them. And so but can you find somebody that can give you something on the inside you need it? Veterans, choose v A for the benefits you've earned. Visit choose

dot v A dot gov. Let's take a look at the a f C South standings and as you would expect, they have not changed. The Tennessee Titans are in control of the a f C South nine and four, four and one in the division, Indie seven and six, three and two in the division, Houston two and eleven there are two wins have been in the division, and Jacksonville two and eleven. They are oh for four in the

a f C South. Upcoming schedules only four weeks remaining in one campaign, and of course, the Jaguars this week faced the Houston Texans here at home, at the Jets at New England, and then home against Indy, and I must say my lock from Monday a couple of weeks ago of the Jaguars sweeping the a f C East

is not looking great. The Texans, of course, here this week at the Chargers at San fran home against Tennessee, the Colts New England in Indy at Arizona home against Vegas at Jacksonville, and then Tennessee with a tough one at Pittsburgh. That's not a tough home against San Francisco. It's a pretty tough game against Miami and then at Houston. All right, I'll give you that. It's not a super tough schedule for anybody. Really, there is the Colts, New England, Arizona,

Vegas j come in a Week eight team. The first three games for Indianapolis is that's a pretty tough matchup. By the way, Mike Rabel would absolutely be in the conversation for NFL Coach of the Year because if you look at that Titans football team and you and you really look closely, I like I like John Robinson, their general manager. I think he's done a pretty good job. But he hasn't been perfect. Make no mistake, he has

not been perfect. And Mike very well, I think has gotten more out of less than what a lot of coaches get out of football teams. He's done a really good job and had their big workhorse a lot of the season and they are right there at the top and with a chance to fight for that number one seed in the A F. C. Urban Meyer Show is coming up in just about a minute and a half or so. What do you want to hear from Urban tonight? Well,

a couple of things. One about the commitment of the running game or lack thereof, and then the other thing that was a little bit disturbing. You saw that kind of key Keystone Cops play where wide receivers run into each other and it doesn't look good and like what are you doing? And then there were a couple other instances in the game where the wide receivers space scene

where that they got in the same neighborhood. And for a quarterback, especially a young quarterback, if you're not having precision by the people around you, makes it extremely difficult for any young quarterback to have success. And that's got to get cleaned up. So we need to ask him about that as well. Yeah, a lot of noise around the organization right now, too. How can he ignore a lot of that and get this team playing better football as a whole? Here from the head coach coming up

in just a few moments. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thanks to Jaguars dot Com Senior writer John Osier stepped in with us. Read his articles on Jaguars dot Com, The Conversations with Jaguars owner shot Con, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaber for Jeff Logan. I'm JP Shadrick. This has been Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. The Urban Meyer Show coming up next.

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