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Jeff Lageman, Leon Searcy and J.P. Shadrick preview the Week 12 game against the Titans on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. My pleasure to announce that the membership has selected Jack Lee. It is Thursday, November one. This is Jaguars Happy Hours and now the Almond brother. Nobody talks about Shane Pace. Is that like the fifth Beatle six beetle. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j Shadrick, Jeff Lock and Leon Sarcy. Jacks Titans coming up, Big sirs, what's up? I'm good, glad to be here, Good to see you. I'm glad to be here. Glad

welcome me back. Every week. We're glad to have you. Yeah, we're not welcoming you back. You're here every week. You're on the team. You know my my contract is weekly renewable. We league performance. A lot of players they need that contract as well. If it was that way in the National Football out of work this week, let's get to over. There'll be some Jaguars out of work this week discussing on this program tonight. The Jacks Titans preview coming up.

I gotta stop the run, well, duh. I balanced offense would be nice. It didn't happen last week. And the NFC South preview that's all coming up the Dug Moron Show coming up at five o'clock tonight. We'll hear from the Jaguars head coach a little bit later. Let's start with the run defense. Jaguars defensive coordinator Todd Wash speaking with the media today at t I A A Bank Field. The last two weeks they've given up nearly five hundred yards rushing on the ground. Todd Wash today, how do

they fix it? You know, in our system, we're an attack front. So it's not like we sit and try to cover up lineman and keep them off the UM the second level UM. So within our system, that's not what we do. Some systems they do UM. But for us, you know, we're a tax system and then when you get on the block, you've got to get off a block. Is basically the way our system is built. From the front seven and nickel or the front eight and base.

There have been some weeks this year where they've shut down some pretty good running backs three weeks in a row, and then they went to London and Carlos Hide and the Texans ran all over them there. They had a week off to think about it, guys, and then they come back after that against Indian two sixty four last week, three different two yard games against this Jaguars defense. Is this a Is it fixable? And how do you fix it? If it is? I've always believed that stopping the run

is not that difficult. I want to say, not that difficult from a from a scheme standpoint. You can always outnumber the opponent in the box and commit stop and run, which is what the Jaguars have done in these games, but haven't been able to stop the run on. Uh, stopping runner has never been a talent issue in my book. It's a commitment. It's a toughness issue, and uh, the

Jaguars right now aren't playing very tough defensively. That's two weeks in a row, and Uh, the only way that you can stop the run is is is to be committed to it and to get your best players to play better than what they played this past game. Pretty simple. Yeah. You know what, at at one particular point in the week is there's no drill you can do, There's no

amount of practice that you can have. It just it just comes to a point where the individual matchups, you say to yourself as a player, I'm gonna whoop you, I'm gonna whoop you. I'm gonna whoop you. And if you've got enough but whippings going on, eventually you end up your game plan to stop the run works. Okay, when the butt whippings are increased on your side and decreased on that side, more than likely you're going to win football game on the scores, not whole. It's not

the they want to buy a large margin, large margin. Yeah, I mean, it just comes down to will you know you decide in your mind, as a as a one of three or five or seven or nine tech D that you're just not gonna get blocked. Now, it's gonna be situations where you're gonna find yourself. But if you commit to not getting blocked nine times, I'll a team

you won't get blocked. And this team has allowed themselves to get blocked for back to back two hundred yards Russian And I look at that triangle, and if you look at the if you look at the Texas and you look at the coast where they were beat the one the three in the mic, all right, that's triangle right there. If you can, if you could succumb to that, if you can win those battles. More than likely you're

running up the miller, you're going to succeed. Yeah, the one the three of the mic what Leon's talking about, and they can be different people, uh the mic and when they were in a forty six defense it was nausey good. In one particular instance this past week, uh the three technique and up instances this past week it was Clay's campbell Um. It wasn't just Tavin Bryant, although Tavin Bryan was a guilty party. Everybody. Everybody had issues and and sometimes it's a matter of what when Leon

talks about about the butt whooping scoreboard. Give an example, and you might recall during the game, because we talked about it, that Miles Jack was looking for a penalty call on Clinton Nelson when Quenton Nelson pulled to his right, which he's a left side guard, he pulled to the right, and then he engaged Miles Jack and it appeared that Miles Jack got kind of pulled down. Well, Miles Jack

has the angle on Quinton Nelson. Clinton Nelson is paralleling the line of scrimmage as he's trying to come around to the right side. And Leon knows this. He's been a pulling tackle before on counter uh counterplace for an offensive lineman. Until you get your pads square to the line of scrimmage and moving north and south, you're at risk of getting blown up when you're paralleling the line of scrimmage because the linebackers are running downhill, which Miles

Jack was running downhill. When you see fifty six Clinton Nelson, boy, by the way, he's a really good player, you might want to hit him in the chin on your way downhill to the running back so that when you engage him by smacking him in the mouth, you can disengage him and throw him to the side and then you don't get pulled down, you know. So, I mean that that's a perfect example that one. Right there. You go scoreboard butt whooping for the Colts right there, because Miles

didn't blow up Clinton Nelson. I mean there's other examples that with other guys too. I point that out because that one was just one that was very glaring and easy to see if people remember that particular play, because it wasn't that hard to figure out. And Quinton Nelson overaw Leon. We knew he was a good player, man. I don't think anybody's that good. No, and that played

that you were talking about. The competitor advantage goes to the mic because when the guard is pulling, he's he's he's parallel down the line of script and he's really looking straight ahead until he sees the hole to pull up. So if Miles Jackson's coming downhill, that was his opportunity to hear them in the ear hole and knock him off balance. But he did it. I mean you did.

When you got your shots, you gotta take him. And trust me, if your offensive linement and you're going to begins the linebacker, you get a shot, you take it. So win goes to Nelson on that part. There was you know a lot of times when you when you have a game and then after the game when you watch the film as kind of as a unit, some guys on a defense. Because you got eleven guys. Not everybody played bad this game. I wouldn't say that everybody played bad, but there was there was a lot of

blame to go around in this game. And I'm talking about the the guys that have a role in stopping the run, because everybody in the in the front eight and I'm talking the box eight, which includes the safeties all had a role in this game of not of of having what was I would be considered a very bad performance against the run. The corners in a couple instances, uh didn't do very well either. Uh A J. Boy A missed a tackle. Trey Herndon missed a tackle in

the run game. So this is one in which I it doesn't happen very often, but when you watched the film, it was it felt worse watching the film than it did while you were watching the game. And all eleven can take ownership in in the poor performance against the run, which is very rare, that doesn't happen very often. And I will point this out and me a lot me leon, we're talking about this before we came on the air. There was not out of effort at the end of

that game. Is that just because the game was out of hand at that point. If I don't care if the game, if you're forty points down, that's a matter of pride. That is a matter of pride. And when you allow an opponent to continue to turn the clock and then convert first downs by running the football, that that is a matter of pride. And it's embarrassing if you don't stop it because you're committing all of your

resources to it. There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to stop the running that scenario, and they didn't. And me been offensive alignment watching the game, and I just remember when I played, you know what, the Steelers and with the Jaguars, when we had successful run games. There's nothing more demoralizing to a defensive front when they know you're going to run the ball and you had you can't. There's absolutely nothing you can do by it.

And that's what the Coast did. The Coast have a fine offensive and I probably won the best Offensive lines league, and they just pound the Jaguars. They said, listen, we're not gonna get cute. We're not gonna let Jacoby win the game. We're gonna win the game up front. We're gonna run this play and there's absolutely nothing you can do about and the jag walls didn't try to attempt

to do anything to stop it. In my opinion, when you give up two hundred sixty four yards, you have two hundred yards back to back and divisional divisional games that you had to win if you wanted to stay, you know, in the Hunter, things that's just just a lack of effort, in a lack of intensity and a lack of desire to be quite honest. And there was you know when I when I say everybody had a role in, I mean Klaus got reached. He was on the ground a lot. Tavin Bryant was out of his gap.

Even though he was penetrating in the backfield, you still have to be in your gap. Uh. Avery Jones was didn't have a lot of awareness on the way and play. You had Miles Jack who was soft the times, out of position at times, No Good who was out of position in forty six defense, which that's like one of the most simplest positions to play, and all of lineback and to go leon with us, the Jaguars played what they call called double legal defense or it's a Bears

forty six defense. You got a head up nose tackle which is Avery Jones, and you got Nagy Good who's a stack linebacker behind him, and as a as an offensive lineman, it is it is it's tough to block of forty six defense. You've got everybody in a gap. Me you have a let talk about a fortified run defensewhere everywhere and the way they play at the nose. Tack always plays behind the block of the center and

then the linebacker fills front side, whichever that is. And it's one of the easiest reads in football for a linebacker. Mike Singletary when people say, boy, how he was so fast reading because he was a one read guy. A lot of times when when if the offense went to his left, he went left and hit the A gap. If the offense went to his right, he went to the right to the A gap right in front of him, and and Downhill and the Jaguars were in a double which is a Bears forty six defense, and they go

to block to the defensive right. And so now now she's got to be in that A gap on play side, and Abrey plays on the back side of the center block, and now good plays on the back side with Abray Jones. That's not good. I mean that that's that's that's that's like easy easy. I mean, that's not hard. That one right there was like, oh yeah, I got new. I mean, this is this conversation is fairly depressing right now. I mean there was a pa'll give you another play play

at the end of the game. First and ten. I want to say, Uh, I think the score at that time was seven. It was thirty one seven. Seven colts come out and they line up and I'm trying to get the right perspective here. They've got kind of a bunch formation outside the tackle and uh and Gockways lined up as a defensive end. But he's got the wide receiver fourteen. Um uh rhymes with Rascal because we're actually

trying to pronounce Pascal. Pascal is a wide receiver. We actually were trying to do the pronunciation for the game. We said, it reminds me remember Rymes with with Rascal, So it's Pascal way to go. And so fourteen is a blocking wide receiver, Pascal, and he's lined up just outside of the tackle, you know, just outside the defensive end. And Leon. If you're a defensive end and your team is down thirty one to seven, it's first and ten and you've got no tight end, you're outside of the tackle,

and you've got a wide receiver that's cheated in. He's not in a wide alignement, he's just outside of you. Where is your attention probably gonna be? Are you gonna be thinking pass rush getting in the backfield? Maybe the tackle is gonna try and reach you, or are you thinking maybe I'll to have a little awareness for Pascal,

this wide receiver here, because he makes he's cheated in. Yeah, he's not in his normal line, so that you should you be thinking, uh, put your hands on fourteen right in front of you and and go way just goes underneath. And I'm like, you're down thirty one and seven. It's first and ten. They're running out the clock. You have to be and stop the run mode. And now's not the time to jump into the backfield and think about well I might make a play on the back side

or no, it stopped the run, you know. So I mean that's when I say there's a there's a shared responsibility. It is a shared responsibility. All right. We've got plenty ahead on this matchup. Jaguars defense against the Titans offense coming up, and we'll talk a little more of the Titans running back of course, Derrick Henry and that offensive line in Tennessee as well. We'll get your lee on your thoughts on Taylor Lauan coming up in just a little bit. We're back in a moment though. We'll pipple

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it's your money. All loan subject to approval insured by m c u A. I think anytime you lose a football game Um, you go back and you self evaluate yourself and you wish you could have done some things different than you did. And that's that's that was a case with me this week for sure. And um, you know, it's easy to as a player, as a coach, it's easy to not self evaluate, self evaluate yourself after wins, and you're probably a little bit over to cook yourself

after losses. It's just the way we're wired. But there are some things I wish I would have gone different there, especially early in the second half, that you know, you go back and learn from and you discuss it and and um, you move forward, and that's that's all you can do. John D. Flippo, offensive coordinator today discussing his offense and the performance last week in Indianapolis and the loss Welcome Back Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadick, Jeff Loghaman,

Leon Sarcy Uh. The question there was about the balance or lack thereof of the offense last week. They ran the ball nine times, a franchise low in a single game, But looking back at a little deeper into that second half, the offense didn't get the ball until it was sevent seven, and then they ran actually three times on that drive on first down plays for a total of minus one yard combined. So it's not like they didn't try to run, but you would that that the optics of nine rushes

in a game is just tough to get past. Here, I'm gonna let the offensive lineman please thank you giving me the floor. Uh listen, let me tell you something, offensive linement. If you ask any offensive linement that played the game, whether it be in the past or play right now, the easiest thing to do, the thing that you want to do going into the game is established the run game, all right. You got to get going

with the offensive line. If you don't get the game going with the offensive line, and the offensive line of lose confidence. The most difficult thing for any offensive linement to do is pass protect over forty times, forty or five times. Listen. I remember times when I was here in Jacksonville and we had some straight dogs that could go hunt as far as wide receivers go, tight ends

go running back. And if we got a little pass happy me, but seller will come to the sideline and getting the court that coordinator's face and say, hey, look, run the damn ball. Because the last thing we want to do is be past protective. You got to establish the run right then and there. And that was a panic move. Hey listened to when the the Titans played the Chiefs and they were down about the same amount. They stuck to the run, Derek E were in the

running game, got them back in the game. When you established that running game, it opens up, It opens up lanes for the passing games. So I mean, I don't I don't like the excuse that that we you know, I don't like the fact that we abandoned the run. I think you gotta have a little bit more confidence in your offensive line to a stablished the game is still within reach seventeen seven, get to get the running

game going. But if you wait a quarter and a half too, all of a sudden start getting to get the offensive line back in the game by running the game. By that time, you know that confidence is shot. You know there's no real desire to do it, because all you're doing is past partaking the mass majority of the time. Tenney Hill had nineteen passing attempts in that game that Tennessee versus Kansas City game, nineteen passing attempts ain't scored

thirty five points who have nineteen in the whole game. Okay, let me ask you this leon the Colts having given up a hundred yard rusher in twenty seven games, So it's an offensive lineman. You probably think that you just can't run the ball against him, right, they haven't given up what the Indianapolis They have not given up a hundred yard rusher in twenty seven games. So it's an offensive line and you probably think that, you know what,

we better not try to run the football. Hell no, we're taken that as a personal challenge, especially in the meeting room because you know what, you know, the offensive line coaches saying, the office line coaches said, you know what, this team has to give up hundred yard Russia in the last twenty five games. What are we gonna do about it? Now? What that means going into the week, We've already got the mindset that we want to end this street. So give us, you know, give us the

opportunity to end it. I mean, we're not going to listen any type of challenge. We're not trying to run from. So if you if you had nine carries in a game, in which do you think you accepted the challenge or They got a quarterback first time, starting send September and a half months and played the game, and we're gonna let them throw the ball for these seven times? Yeah, that sounds real good. Why don't you put the on

this on the offensive line? Puts on the line. The offensive line should have said, listen, if any if Nick Fole is going to have any kind of success in this game, we've got we can't be one dimensional. We gotta be able to run the ball and give him opportunities. Listen, we all know what Nick Foles does best, the deep ball and play action when he was with Philly, play action in the deep ball when he had his tight ends.

So why not established the run game and giving the you know, he could become more of a door threat. But giving him meant him throw the ball after he had armed fatigue forty seven passes and only nine rushes. There's a little balance there. Now, that's a lot of that's a lot of throwers first time out of the game. Guy that hasn't played in a game, in a game, we're talking look practice, you can have twenty one day window all you want. It's not game speed, you know.

And the Nick started out real well, in that game, and you could just you could just see that was it. You know, it was like at the beginning, bam. And then that was the first two drives they had balance, they're running the ball, son and you know they moved down the field the holy called you know, stall the first drive and then they go down and score a touchdown. The uh, the amazing thing is you've only got nine

rushes in that ball game. And so when you have nine rushes, a lot of times as as a passing team, you have zero yardage game plays or you have minus yardage plays. And what happens exactly what happened with the Jaguars and that game. I want to say that there was fourteen third downs, fourteen I think, and out of those fourteen, ten of them were third and seven plus. Look, the numbers, the numbers of converting third and seven plus

are not good. And that's why when you run the football, I mean, you might end up blooding your nose and get three yards and you know, get cloud of dust in two yards even though you're on artificial turf. But look, that's that's sometimes that's what you gotta do. And I will say that when Leonard did get the ball. He was not very good either, you know, he didn't stay committed to some of the holes. So um, but you

gotta you gotta call more than nine runs. Yeah. And also what you gotta do is you gotta mix it up in the run. I mean you gotta get some of these offensive linement in space, some screens, some toss you cracks, get you know, get them flowing, get them roll and get them. You know, maybe we don't match up that world on one on one you know blocking or double team block. So get some of these guards.

Get the guards, the tackles, the centers out in space, you know around you know, safeties and corners and outside linebackers, getting letter going downhill and letters a downhill runner. That this zone stuff that sometimes that I'm not talking about

just talk about screen screen. And then you know, the one thing that I think also with with that game is that you had an injury to set the valve what Thursday of last week, and so now you're missing a tight end which I'm sure set the valve is a big part of big part of your rushing attack. I mean lines of his fullback sometimes h and there's your lead back, there's your downhill stuff. You know, here's

another blocker. And I just wondered, did the combination of of looking through Nick foles glasses I call it, you know, because you're like, oh, we've got our guy back, we feel really good about throwing a football, and all of a sudden, now we just lost a tight end. Well now we just got we gotta throw the ball. I mean, what was you wonder what it was that the mindset?

You know, I don't know, but you know, you go back to the the game before, which was before the bye, in the game against Houston Garden, Minshew ended up on the injury report had a shoulder. I want to say it was a Thursday that he was added later in the week, and it was pretty apparent in that ball game early on that he was not very accurate. The ball was kind of sailing high on him. And it was a game which I think Leonard had eleven carries in that game. And I understand that the Houston Texans

had a lot of injuries in the secondary. I understand that it was the same way against the Indianapolis Colts the dance and injuries in the secondary. But sometimes you gotta be who you are, you know, and the Jaguars. You are a physical or what you want to be want in your your recipe for success in the past has been you're gonna be a physical football team. Run the football and then play action passed, and then defensively,

you want to be a physical defense. And and for two weeks now this team has not been a physical football team. All right, let's come back. Um, we'll flip it around. There's not much left to say on that. I think. I think we pretty much summed it up on the offensive side here. We'll come back a little more on the defense. And Derrick Henry lining up with hands on knees behind the quarterback waiting to run against this Jaguars defense. Can they do what they did earlier

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the Colts this week. Coming up Bill Face, Derrick Henry and Josh Allen told me, you have to tackle him a different type of way. You gotta smack that man. You gotta you know what I'm saying, You gotta you gotta hit him, Gotta bring it. You gotta bring a lot of people to the ball. You know what I mean. It's you know, you gotta you gotta play like how you play in the bed year. I gotta you gotta hit him, you know what I mean. Ain't know, you know,

pass it. You gotta you gotta run through him, you know, hit him low, but not too low. You know, he's just like I said, you gotta smack that man. They do they do. I respect that, but you gotta. We gotta bring our thing. Though nick Fole's second game back this Sunday after breaking his allar bone. Yes, this team is four and six right now, but nick Fole says relaxed, Everything is gonna be okay. Not pressing means don't freak out. Um, I'll let everyone else freak out. I'm not going to

freak out. I'm gonn continue to come to work. I'm gonna continue to you know, believe my teammates. Um, you know, I don't come in here and say it's just gonna happen. And we put in a lot of work, and you know, coaches are you know, working hard towards the game plan. We go out there and practice to fine tune it. Um. It's just one of those things where it's just gotta be ingrained and who you are. Titans injury reports from today limited a day was tight end to Laney Walker

in defensive back Chris Milton. Chris Connolly will be our guests on All Access Night Life from Mayport and stay tuned for the Dug Round show coming up at five o'clock, celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Flight's got her at the twenty He's at the tent, He's at the five click Simmocks Touchdown, Jack Art Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shattrick, Jeff Flagerman, Leon Searcy, Ashland Sullivan had the update there. Jack's Titans coming up at

Nissan Stadium, Nashville. The Jags have lost nine of the last eleven trips to Nashville, Tennessee. Another pleasant place to play, no trust my experience did it was probably one of the better teams we had it well, probably that was the best team we've ever had. We got over three, over three, over three. Yeah, we have blame Bishop on earlier to day and I brought up to three records and you know, I was surprised he didn't say he owned us, which they did. You don't have to say it,

I think. So it's been a long time going back to is the last victory for the Jaguars. You remember that game much? I don't. It was a Will Blackman quad infecta game where he stripped the guy picked it up touchdown. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. That's how long it was. The last Jaguar went amazing, And uh, it's been a long time. And when you look at it that the Tennessee Titans have been the more physical team in those games, and that's always kind of been their calling card ever since.

And look at any time you're a football team that doesn't have a great quarterback, that's your calling card. That's that's what it has to be. And the Tennessee Titans for many years haven't had very good quarterback play. And even when they had McNair, that's that's what their calling card was anyway, because he wasn't a franchise passer, but he was a franchise quarterback and he could run, so

they were Yeah. Yeah, well I was telling Blame to day that I felt that Derrick Henry was a big, faster, meaner Eddie George and that offensive line that they had, you know what, benji Olsen and Brad Hopkins and John running they either themselves on beach. Who is the left tackle, the the guy that was played with the Titans back in the day, Yeah, that was that was Hopkins. Brad Hopkins. No, no, no, the one that was after him. Oh, I can't remember what Brad Hopkins was back in the day, but it was.

I have to look it up anyway. Brad Hopkins is good football. Yeah he was good. But yeah, that that's what that that that was their staple back then and even today, is that, No, we don't have the best quarterback, you know in the backfield, but we have a running back that's going to plow in between it, in between the center and the two guards, and we're gonna play physical, hard notes football with you. That was their main stay

in ninety nine. That's their main stay here, that I mean, and you look at the offense and one of the offensive lines. I I like, uh, Taylor Lawan six seven, three oh five. He's me and he's napties get after it. Uh, He's going to be a handful in the game. And now the one thing to knock against him is that he leads the team and penalties. Has nine penalties, and last week against the Chiefs, it was three costly penalties that could have cost him because he had done necessary

roughness and he had the two holding calls. But as far as right tackles go um you know him and Lane Johnson, I like those two. Conklin is pretty good play. He's not what he was prior to the knee injury that he sustained two years ago, and last year he was trying to fight back and fight through a lot of the stuff from recovering from the knee, and then he was dealing with something else eventually ended up on I R. But he looks like he's playing better this year.

He's played in all ten games. Teller one is having a little bit of a struggle with some edge speed, and I think that's partly why he has the number of penalties that he does. And he missed the first four games. Remember he suspension p d suspension didn't play against the jack that's when they played Kelly at left tackle. They're they're good offensive line. But I love Derrick Henry

as a running back. I've loved him since JP he was at the University of Alabama because I remember when the heck uh the running back that we ended up drafting here in Jacksonville, t J. Yeldon, and I remember when that draft class was coming out and it was very apparent that the Jaguars were gonna draft and running back.

And I was watching the college film of all these guys, and every time I go to watch t J. Yelden or the film of Alabama to watch some of t J. Yellow, and every time you saw Derrick Henry in the game, I was liked, He's way better than this yelling guy. I hope we're not gonna draft this Yeldon guy, are we? Because the other guy, Derrick Henry is way better than Yelden.

Yeldon was the guy they used kind of in the passing game out of the backfield screen game that was kind of there, and he ran some, but he wasn't that he wasn't. And when Derrick Henry is on the field,

Alabama was way better it was over. It was over and uh and it's kind of taking him a little while to kind of to be that dominant back at the National Football League level of what last year was his first thousand yard rushing season, but he's been sharing the backfield for a long time and now he's kind of the man and Dion Lewis is just the you know,

the third down time to cut type, especially back. His arguably his biggest game in the NFL got he's got a he's got a freaking sign and in a town, I mean, you know, he's good when he got a sign. When you got a sign for your hometown, you're pretty good. Yeah,

and Julie up the road here. Arguably his biggest game in the NFL is against the Jaguars last year, where he had four touchdowns well hunyards, I mean it is It is a performance that you hear pretty much every day on NFL Network when Mike Keith is yelling nine nine yards and that was early in the game, and he had a few more scores after that, Um what what what When he gets outside against little guys, its lights out right, that's what they want to do well,

not ninety nine yard run he got stiff armed a j boy. A couple of times, he's stick stuff farm Lely on Jacob's he's stiff armed Miles jack Um. That was not a very good play. And and that's what they try to do. I mean, look, he's a big back. I mean he's two hundred forty plus fifty pounds whatever he is, and the Titans like to be able to get him on the perimeter of the defense because when he does get on the perimeter of the defense, he's got good enough feat where he can avoid tackles that

are low. But then he also is a dominant physical presence and he can push the defensive backs around and it's wise for the Tennessee Titans to try to get him outside on the perimeter. What did the Jags do differently this year against him? What was it? So? What were they so successful in the earlier games? Scored a touchdown only like forty four yards executed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you execute. I mean there's no there's no mysteries about how do you stop a running back. I mean you

you execute. And that's what the Jaguars defense was able to do. And then they got some early scores, which I think the Tennessee Titans. I don't want to say they abandoned the run, but they didn't. They didn't stick with it like they did against Kansas City. Yeah, yeah, and all you know that the Titans known for bullyball, and they had beating the Jaguars like what fourth obs straight, And it was a Thursday night game, night game, and that's some particular point as a team, you gotta see

enough enough, all right in Jacksonville. Just happened on that day, that Thursday night game. They played well. They played well on offense and played well on defense. Henry couldn't stand a chance. They were in attack attack form on both sides of the ball. So I think that, you know, in that particular moment that Thursday night game, Jacksonville was just to the point where I heard they heard all week that you couldn't beat this team, and they seized

the opportunity that Thursday night to get it done. So hopefully, you know the fact that they haven't won in Tennessee you know, very very very long time, maybe they could you know, swing the pendulum a little bit and say, hey, look, enough's enough. You know, we've been running on two hundred yards back to back We've given a three two hundred yards rushing at this season alone. Uh, we're not gonna let it happen this week, this Sunday at four o'clock.

I thought that after that game that the Titans We're gonna bench Mariota after that game. After that game, it took him a little longer. He was bad. He was he was he was barely fifty, He was largely ineffective. He didn't do anything with his legs, so to speak.

And I because you know, you you kind of heard some of the rumors that Tanny Hill was looking better in training camp, and so you kind of in in my mind, I was kind of wondering, how long are the Tennessee Titans gonna stick with Mariota before you know and then or they're gonna turn to Tannil sooner rather than later. So I really thought after this game that that would be it for Mariota and they would turn to Tanniel. But it took him a few games later on to do it. And ever since they have turned

to Tannehill, they have been vastly better, vastly better. So he's completing seventy one of his passes eight touchdowns down to yeah, exactly. So he's he's you know, he's he's definitely utilizing the deep ball. And then when you've got to running back like Henry who's got at eight hundred yards rushing, four point four yards of carrying heat touchdowns. I mean, that's inspired, especially when you get let me

saying and players know in practice who should be playing. Okay, Mariota probably stuck in there because he was the franchise pick,

first round pick overall and everything. But if they got a guy this like Russell Wilson, when Russell Wilson came to Seattle, that in that that training camp, that Dan Paide what's his name from the Packers, all that money Flynn pay him all that monthing, but players saw that, wait a minute, this guy, Russell, he's way better than all the money we spend up the same way in any practice Mariota and practice players like why is he

still playing? And this guy is better? And then then when you make the change, the players like, Okay, that's inspiring because now that all the politics of of the game is stowing out the winter because now you want to win football games. He's got he's got some receivers that are playing playing better for him too. How's the rookie from Old Miss pretty good? A J. Brown? He

said he's a legitimate deep threat. He's big bill, he's not as big as his his cohort want to end up in Seattle, right, so the other guy from from that school, But yeah, I know A J. Brown is a big guy, big receiver. He's got deep speed. You know, Taj Sharp has kind of been their deep guy, but now you add this A J. Brown to the mix. And then Corey Davis has been a little banged up. He had a hip issue. He was inactive this past week, but they have when he's healthy. They have three guys

that ken go deep. But the guy that has really emerged is the guy that they acquired in free agency, which is Adam Humphreys, who caught the game winner against the Kansas City Chiefs, and he they got him in free agency from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He wears number ten.

He's kind of a little guy, kind of reminds me of a Julian Edelman, kind of a kind of a receiver, you know, that smaller, shifty, possession, tight But uh, I think he's the leading receiver and he's a good football player, and he's become a favorite for the quarterbacks in Tennessee pretty quickly. So quite a challenge this week JAG's and the Titans. We'll come back at a moment and we'll look at the FC South, the division standings, look at the a f C playoff picture. You seem skeptical lots

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official bank of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jaguars Happy Hour continues j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logom and Leon Searcy Jags Titans coming up and coming up the top of the hour. The Doug Morone Show will hear from the Jaguars head coach ahead of this week twelve match up in the a f C South Um Fellas we we ended last segment talking about ninety six remember the nineties six Jaguars. You guys were you know on that team, you know that we were, Yeah we were, Yeah, but that team

was four and six. In fact, they were four and seven at one point and rally to get in the playoffs. Yeah, so it's possible. So we're gonna put on a rally Caps. So there's hope starting this week, right, you gotta win. I won't put it all one. The different one. The difference between that nineties six team was that a lot of those games we lost close because we were very competitive, all right, we could run, we could pass, and we were a lot of game We lost a lot of

close games. I don't think we gave up three games over two in the yard rushing ever. Ever, Yeah, because he had you had you Clyde, and we had Schmange, Schmingy and York and Day and you know, I called and I'll call us the land of misfit dolls. But for whatever reason, you know, we just we just kept fighting. Castaways.

Yeah we were castaways. Here. The losing results that year, by the way, seven with the Laws seventeen three at the Raiders five and overtime in New England seventeen thirteen seventeen, fourteen one. I mean those are all closed at one score games. You're right there, and so yeah, a little different this time around, especially the last two weeks against division rivals. Really not coming close. But it's possible. Mathematically, you gotta want to see the graphics. We got an

f C playoff picture. The division leaders, of course, are one to three and four in the seatings, and then current the wild card would be the Bills and the Texans. Patriots at nine and one will be the number one seed today Baltimore, Kansas City, Indie. The wild card the Bills and the Texans, and of course the Texans and Colts.

I played tonight in Hunt Raiders six and four playing good ball stealers somehow are five and five, Titans right there at five and five, and then the rest rounds Jaguars, Chargers. There's a few teams not on the graphic because they really don't have a true shot at it. So so what you're saying, well, so what's the percentage? Just put a number on one? Are the Jaguars chances? I mean it's low. I don't know. I mean, you gotta win.

You gotta win all the games, right, I mean you gotta win an out six games to get to ten, uh five to get to nine, and then you need a lot of help. Thank you, I'll give you that. You're good at math. Took a couple of classes in Tuscaloosa. That's about it. It's uh, it's a it's a long road. I think that the reason I say that or I think that this team is you don't compare it to and I think it's hard to compare any team to

ninety six. And I'm not trying to to say that we were great or anything like that, but that was pretty unique, a unique set of circumstances that we were a second year franchise that had no expectations attached to us. Nobody expected us to be good, and I think some people within our own building didn't expect us to be good. We were just trying to build to the future. And so I think there's a big difference when you can exist without the expectations being attached to your football team.

And I think that that's kind of what made us a little bit unique. Look we were we were just allowed to to exist without a lot of criticism. I mean, I know that a lot of people had higher expectations than what we were at that point, and wanted us to do a little bit better. But we were a second year franchise and people are like, man, we're just glad we got the Jaguars playing with house money, total

house money, total house money. And then you know, it was some particular point, you know, when we were playing the ninety six and we had if I if I say here and tell you at four seven we had designs going the playoffs, I'll be lying, I'll be trying to win again, trying to win again. All we all we did weekend and week out. It's whatever team that maybe had aspirations to play the playoffs, we were looking

to knock him on. Let's try to, let's try to, let's try to spoiler, just play spoiler, and then before you know, your knock off one, two, three. Next thing, you know, you gotta streak and what we don't want three straight five like and then we go we go eight and seven, and then I think the worst thing man have been talked about this about a couple of days ago. The worst thing they could have told us is that you be the Atlanta You're going to the playoffs.

And then that was probably our worst game total, totally that worst game. So when we got notion that we could make the playoffs, we played as bad as we bad as we could have played, and then you know, misfield goal. Next thing you know, we're in. And then we got once you got into the playoffs, we were we felt like we were again playing with House. We're actually joking around because we're like, what do we get

paid in the playoffs? So we started to look at the checks for the winners and losers like we're winning whether we win or lose, right, we're getting a little extra money. And then once we beat them, then we were It was kind of the same attitude in Denver. But then when we went to New England, it was there's a super Bowl on the line, and so now you have pressure, pressure, the little visions of the Lombardi Trophy. Yeah. Yeah, So then all of a sudden, there was no house

money anymore when you go to New England. So alright, so I'll lay off the nineties six comparison. It is, I mean, it is. It's very hard to compare unless you're talking about expansion franchise. It's kind of hard to compare for that season is pretty unique. Thursday Night football tonight. The Colts at six and four, the Texans at six and four, first placed on the line in the SEC South. That you guys like tonight, Uh Texans that you know, I haven't been playing well last week? They have the

doors blown off by the Ravens. Where's that in Houston? M h I think it's great. I mean, I I don't know. I can tell you this. I think that, Uh, Indianapolis should be able to run the ball against Houston. I believe. I think Indianapolis also should be getting t Y Hilton back tonight, So now you got a guy back. And by the way, that was the first game they had won without t Y Hilton against the Jaguars this past week in their in their history. Um it's uh,

it's where in Houston? Houston, boy, I don't know. Uh. Deshaun Watson m VP candidate, you know, is he anymore after last week? I mean he's still I mean he had one one game that wasn't great against Lamar Jackson. I mean he's a candidate. He's not He's a is not gonna take him out of the being a candidate. I don't know. That's a tough game to pick. Tough game to pick. And I can say this, I don't know.

I don't know if Indianapolis has enough speed up front to catch DeShawn Watson, because the Jaguars when when they played in early in the game, he was just he's slippery and uh. And if Deshaun Watson plays like he did in London, I'll take Houston. Oh yeah, I mean pretty much every week he plays like their home. I don't know. That's it. I can tell you this. I'll be glued to the TV tonight. I think this is I think this is a great matchup, great matchup. Who

you like tonight? Um, well, I tell you what. The Coats um. You know, there's no real star power on the coach team. They just they do a lot of things well on both side of the ball. They got a solid offensive line. You know, I won't say they have a disruptive defense, but they play sound defense. Yeah. They remind me of you know what. They remind me the Spurs. You know, nothing flashy, they just do everything right.

Who you na, na I'm calling I'm gonna call it Indianapolis the big fundamental all right, They're fundamentally they are sound on both sides. Have to help on the on the NBA fundamental knowledge, fundamental fundamental Tim duncan you know and listen? And the only shot we have is that we you know, the Texas have already beat us twice and we got to play the Coats again in the season. So um, I'm gonna go with the Coast to win. I think the Coats up front can run the ball.

I think that they'll established to run against the Texas. If you can. Somehow you can't, you can't control it, but if you gotta, if you can contain Deshaun Watson, you know, he's like a magician out there when he gets out the side of the pocket, keep him in the pocket, get the sacks. And I'm taking the better offensive line. I think the Coast has a better offensive line and protecting and running the ball. So I think they're gonna be just effective tonight then they were last

week against US. I'll take the better quarterback at home. Okay, wow, is there. We're gonna make it interesting? No, No, I've already lost. How tough is this task for the Jaguars Sunday in Nashville? I mean, how many times have they won there in the last ten years? Of the last eleven years, they've won twice up there. And so you're asking me how tough I think it is out there? Again, say that again, of the last there they're they've lost

time the last eleven. Two of the last eleven trips have only two out of the last eleven have been victories in And that ought to tell you right there that this is this is and and here's the other thing. It's a four o'clock kick a little bit idle time. It's gonna be a little chilly at uh. I think the stadium is gonna be rocking regardless of the outcome tonight in tonight's game. So you know, I think this. I think this is a tough game for the Jaguars

in a lot of different ways. And Tennessee Titans lost before, but they're looking for a little payback, you know that. Uh. I think this is a tough game for the Jaguars. I think in a lot of different ways. I mean, when you when you just look at the numbers of what the Jaguars defense is allowed in the last two weeks against the run and the number of points that they've scored. How many points are they scored in two games last two games atensively of the Jags. Yea, not many.

H uh yeah, it'd be tough one. Tough one, all right, we think Leon, it's gonna be a tough one. Thank you, Leon. But when you work with words, words are your work. That's that Miami education like the Leon. Thank you very much. It's all right, see it. We'll talk to you on Sunday performance Base. Hopefully you're you're on the team. I know, I know, I see said you're here. There he is. Leon seriously joining us for more Jaguars right tackle. Jeff Logerman,

You've got all access coming up tonight. I do in Mayport Salute Service. We we are going to be doing a show from one of the Navy ships. Awesome. Yeah, so we we did that a couple of years ago and it was incredible and look, I'm looking forward to it. Sounds good. Coming up next the Doug Morons Show. We'll hear from Tony Boselli as well on location for Thursday Night Football. Thank you for watching and listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

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