Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 19

We will preview organized team activities coming up next week, and of course a lookal in the National Football League. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Blagaman, Devin Lloyd in studio with us. Great to see you, Thanks for the time. What's up? Of course, a horrible joke, wasn't it? It was pretty bad. I can't even lie. Yeah, way to go, Joe. You set a new low. He's got. He's got a little bit of a wacky mind, you know what I mean.

But I give him credit though to come up with provo provolone has something to do with Soule Lake City. I might like it more, but because it was PROVOEA got you. Yeah, it's a big steak. Well, welcome to Jacksonville. You you're finally starting to get a little bit settled. Yeah, i am. I'm getting acclimated out here. Um, looking for a house is not going so well. I mean it's going okay. You know, that'll probably finally allow me to

like really settle in. But I mean, you know, getting to know everybody in the locker room is going great. And you know, getting my playbook, you know, it's been good. I like that's for everybody right now. Looking for a house. It's kind of tough to these days. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little a little different market nowadays, you know, but but it's a big steff. I mean, first of all, congratulations, first round draft pick. You know, sometimes guys grew up

with the NFL being a lifelong dream. I don't know if it was one of yours, but congratulations, thank you, thank you for sure something really. Um, since I started playing football, you know, I always wanted to go to the next level, really go to UM college and then go to the NFL. So I'd always aspired to play in the NFL. And um, you know, I'm just glad to be here. Man, So take us through We're gonna go back a little bit. Well we'll get to rookie camp coming up and what's coming up on O, T. A. S.

And all that and just a little bit. But I'm coming from the state of California to Utah. How did you end up in Utah and why did you decide to go to Salt Lake? Yeah? Um, really for me, Um, you know, Kassalak was never really on the radar. UM. You know, I never really saw myself going there until a couple of weeks before signing day. Actually, um, really when they started recruiting me heavily. UM. And they actually offered me a couple of weeks before signing day, they

had offered me um at a basketball game. Um. But up until that point, you know, my recruiting was relatively low. Um. I was playing you know, free safety and wide receiver and UM, you know it was it was tough. Um. You know, I was a tweener. There was a lot of things in my recruiting process that didn't really sweep my way. But um, when Utah came into the picture, you know, it was a great opportunity for me. Um.

First of all, it's a great institution. Um, they've been producing a lot of people in the in the NFL, and I mean really it just came down to, you know, they were, you know, my best choice as far as everything I wanted to accomplish. Pack twelve school to Pack twelve school. They are my only Power five. So good about Pack twelve. A CC is where it's at. Man, he's an Alabama, Virginia different things. Actually do play football in the Pac twelve. Believe it. But it's and it's

actually kind of what the NFL is, isn't that. It's it's more in the air. And you you you talk about maybe being a tweet or hurt you, but here in the long run, being a tweeter has actually probably helped you because of what the game has become. Because you're starting to see more guys that play college football or come out of high school that played safety, that convert the linebacker because of the speed of the game and the way it's become a passing game. So that's

got it. That's how that has to have helped you in your journey in the long run. For Sara, and really just heard me, probably in the recruiting process, but in the long run, like you just stated, yeah, I definitely has helped me for sure. All Right, So what'd you study at Utah? Got to your degree? Where you at communications? I got my degree in communications? Actually nice, congratulations,

I mean that's I think that's a big deal. I mean, and the studies have shown that in the National Football League players that have a degree have a longer career by I think three years in fact. You know, so congratulations to you, Thank you. All right, So take us through a little bit lass Utah thought here. We've talked about this before. We've heard the story there the last couple of years off the field with that football team, and then that group stayed together. How close was that

team at the very end of it? Obviously won the Pac twelve went to the Rose Bowl for the first time ever in Utah history. But that's a long road to get to that point with everything that happened off the field there. Yeah, I would say that team, um was extremely close. And I mean it was pretty much identical to the team we had last year. Excuse me, because nobody left, you know, everybody came back, so we

already you know, we're familiar with everybody. And then um, you know obviously went through um some tragedy and that brought us even closer. But um, really that whole last couple of years that I was there, that team was really strong. You know, as far as just being close with everybody, everybody, um, you know, respecting and loving one another. Really that was that was a huge thing. I would have to think that not only the tragedy that you

guys went through Utah, but you guys went through a pandemic. Okay, so you put all these things together and you talk about closeness. I don't know if anybody could come more together than what you guys were going through at that time, not just with the tragedy but with what's going on, what was going on in the world at that time. Yeah, definitely,

for sure. The pandemic whenever UM occurred and you know we were kicked out the building essentially, Um, that kind of the divided us because I wouldn't say dividers, but we just weren't in the locker room together. Nobody was there with one another. So when we did come back and we were finally all together, um, you know, it was like a joy, you know, like finally getting to see everybody um and you know, be there and I mean I think that just started to build on top of,

you know, everybody's relationship. Devin Lloyd with US Jaguars linebacker, first round draft pick, twenty seventh overall selections, Jaguars Happy Hour on Tin Texel and Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Flaguman. All right, so what we we love the video on draft night, You're you're sitting back in the green room. You're in Las Vegas. First off, that had to be pretty darn cool to be in Las Vegas for the draft, I would guess, right, yeah, big blessing. Um. You know, I'm glad I had the

opportunity to be there. You know, that was extremely special for myself and my family. And then second you hear your name called and you go on the stage, You're throwing the commissioner around, You're yelling at Melissa Stark. I mean that that moment when you hear your name, the reaction is finally that dream come true. Take us through that that experience, relief, um, satisfaction, UM. I mean every emotion that it is, um that you can think of. Uh,

you know I had it at that moment. Uh, you know, I'll be honest, you know I didn't expect to follow that late, but when I did, um, you know, get the call, um. You know, it was just just so much, you know, just joy, you know, just all kind of let out. It's like, Okay, I know where I'm going. Um, this is where God has set me, you know, and I mean really just um, it was just special. You know. I was glad to finally find out, you know, where

where I could call home. You know, I've I've watched a couple of different interviews that you've done, and you talk, i mean literally glowingly about your mom and dad and how much of an impact that they had on your life and where you are today. Uh. And I think that's awesome to have both parents to have that kind of good things to say about them, and they obviously

did a great job. Yeah a dent Um. I'm just so grateful and blessed, um, you know, for the parents that I had, and how much you know, they loved me, and I mean truly they want nothing but the best for me. And I mean nobody's perfect, but that's all I could truly ask for, you know, um, from my parents. So you know, I'm grateful for them. Navy Brat your Navy brat right. Okay, is that right? So what's the

connection with the navy. Uh? Well, my dad um did thirty years, just retired a little over a year ago. My mom um ten years. Yeah, they both met in the military. Um, her mom Navy as well. Okay, any were they have stationed in Jacksonville at anyone? My mom actually had did some training out here. Um, so she was out here for a little bit. Dad, I don't think he was right here. Okay, well she at because we have a couple of them here, we have any

accent we have Mayport. Did you ever find out? We're just talking to her literally about this a couple of days ago. She doesn't even remember that because it happened so long ago. This is we're talking twenty plus years ago. So and it was Jacksonville was way different than it is now. So um, she doesn't even remember. But yeah, it was somewhere out here. I got so me and JP we're talking and Utah bms. That's the big time

football program that it is. We're sitting there trying to think who's the greatest player to ever come out of Utah to play in the National Football League, And there's a couple of good ones. Now top of the list. Uh, Luther Ellis comes to mind because he played back kind of what I did. And then Steve Smith also a guy that uh now doing broadcasting on TV. But in your opinion, who is the greatest player beside yourself? Can't can't can't use yourself the greatest player to ever play

in the National Football League that came from Utah. Well, I can't give you one defined answer, um, but I can give you a list of a few people. Um, a couple that you mentioned, Luther Ellis, Um, Steve Smith, obviously Eric Wittle, Um, you know he just came back and wanted to so well, so, Um, you know he's a great player as well. Um. Here was somebody that I just had on the top of my head that

I'm missing, Oh Alex Smith. Yeah uh so, UM, I mean we've we've had some island and you know you definitely. I mean I can't put you know, a number one on it. First of all, I'm biased, you know, I love all of them, Um, but I mean really I think just you know them coming from Utah and you know, having success in the league is amazing. So Devin Lloyd

with us Jaguars linebacker. Let's get to arriving in Jacksonville. Now, rookie minicamp comes and goes, a couple of three days on the field, and now all of a sudden, this past week we've been out there with the veterans for the first time. O t A s next week. How's it been mixing with these guys in the building finally

for the first time. Yeah, it's been cool. It's been cool. Um. You know, it's definitely obviously different than college, but um, I think everyone's been really welcoming for the most part, as far as just guys in the building, um and really extending their hand to me and kind of um really just giving me advice, you know, um on the field, um, even off the field, UM, in the locker room, things in that nature. So UM, it's been a good vibe. And I can tell everybody around here is hungry to win,

which you know, I absolutely love, you know what I'm saying. So, um, it's been a good few days of work and uh, you know, I can't wait to keep it going for folks around here. Devin, it's a brand new linebacker room, right, I mean it feels that way. There's a few guys that are back, but it's been rebuilt. I mean that is from Luca and you're in Momas in the draft. That's a lot of change in one year's stacked room.

You guys feel that way too. Yeah, we got a lot of guys in there, um that are really good and that can do a lot of good things, you know for um the team. So um, it's competitive as you expect, um, But I mean we're all you know, getting each other better. We're all helping each other, um, you know, talking through things in the meeting room. So um,

it's a it's a friendly competition. Like you said, I mean, there's always a little bit of a bonding experience with the rookie class when you guys come in because you're the rookies, you know, and whether you guys are drafted or undrafted. And then also you've got a fellow first round draft pick and Drayvon Walker. That's probably, uh, one of the coolest experience I think that you'll ever have is coming in as a rookie because you'll have a bond with these guys because you came then together and

you're gonna grow up in the league together. And have you gotten to spend some time with some of the other guys. So far, yeah, um, so I know me personally, I've been hammering my playbook in my free time, so I haven't been doing much outside of the facility. But um, in the facility and everything, yeah, well we'll chop it up and um you know, still you know, getting to really, um get acclimated with the large majority of you know,

the players on the team. But um, but yeah, you know, i'd say, you know, the rookies are pretty pretty tight with each other. What's the what's the field with coach Peterson? What do you like about Yeah, um, you know obviously he's very uh I say he's a player's coach, just because you know, he does know how to talk to the players and um, you know, he has uh pretty good um communication with the players, I guess you could say. Um.

But also I can tell he's a winner. You know, he's got that mindset, um that he's gonna do whatever you can for the team and whatever is best for the team. Um. So you know I love that, and um, you know, I mean I'm just excited to keep going, you know, continue to uh to see what everyone is about, you know, watching and watching the film on your Utah. You did so many different things. You were played will linebacker.

Sometimes you were a deep metal third player when like a like a cover two playing that deep metal you blitzed off the edge. You had a lot of different stat filling numbers. What do you envision yourself doing in the National Football League at what type of position? Because you're so varied and you can do so many different things. What's your strongest suit and what do you see yourself doing? Me personally? UM, I mean I feel like, especially in

this three four scheme. Um, Obviously I'm learning inside linebacker right now. Obviously I want to be able to transition to play any of those four, be interchangeable, um, and do what I did you know in college, except at a higher level. It Um what more success? Um? I mean really I see myself see myself as somebody who can do anything that you can ask a linebacker to do,

you know. And I think the game is transitioning more from you know, it's getting just you know, I mean, dudes too, you've got to be athletes now too, you know what I'm saying. So, um, you know I kind of want to be you know that that type word you know, he's position list you can play wherever and do it at a high level half success, not just be a liability and not just put him out there, but be able to be elite. You know, the more you can do, I mean, you're you're pigeonholding to one spot.

If you can play three or four spots, it's gonna help along get your career. Really, that's what it comes down to. You've got to You've got a position coach that played the game. Uh and Tony how how how nice has it been to have a coach that's played the game, Because I know that sometimes that's important because it opens the ears a little bit, and that your coach that's telling you things. Okay, You're like, Okay, he's been there, he's done that, right, Yeah. Yeah. TG's perspective

is um huge. Um. Like you said, he's played the game, so he's been in our shoes. He knows what it's like to be in our shoes, and so I think that perspective is huge. And him as a coach, you know what I'm saying, it helps me so much as well as far as UM teaching me little techniques and UM sometimes not over complicating things, which huge for me. I'm somebody who likes to keep it simple and try to maximize everything you can, um, you know, while keeping it simple, and I think he helps me do that.

So alright, final thoughts with it here before we get you out of here. I know it's the last thing you gotta do today before you leave the building. So O t as next week, Um, what are you looking forward to? You can actually do some eleven on eleven stuff, finally some nine on seven, but no contact, none of that.

Closer to football now right, closer to football, And um, really what I'm excited for is just to get out and um go compete, especially against you know, our offense, who I know is gonna be really good this year. So um, I'm just I just you know, love competing. So you know, I'm excited to get out there and first of all, see where my game is at stacked up against you know, an NFL caliber offense. But um also just you know, find a way to get better.

You know. Yeah, the rookie year is a little bit of a whirlwind because you did you you know, you have to draw a half. You were prepping for the combine, You're prepping for this. You were prepping for that and the one crazy thing about your rookie year, you haven't been prepping to play football yet, it seems like so so it's got to feel good to get back to football. Yes,

it's so relieving, so relieving. Like you said, I've been focused on everything except football, you know, and I tried to squeeze it in here and there, but you're so focused on thing from time to time. So now whenever I can just focus purely on football. Um, you know, it's the breath of fresh air. Really, hey, thanks for taking some time out to join us today. Really good to visit with you, and uh, I hope we get to do it again soon. You're communications got come on

in anytime. We love it. Linebacker Devon Lloyd joining us. The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new look. In to join us at the bank is head coach Doug Peterson in linebacker Devin Woyd. He didn't leave the charge through a great home schedule. Lock in your seats at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or called nine oh four six three three two thou We're back in a moment. We'll review that conversation and talk about Devon behind his back.

It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguar's digital networks, a little let me go on, Let me go on, duvery welcome back at Jaguar's Happy Hour. That is Devin Lloyd at the draft stealing the microphone from Melissa's start. J P. Shatick with Jeff Lackerman, Go fortunate op at Weber with us. Also Devin Lloyd with us in studio in the opening segment, and you know we're talking about it during the commercial break logs. You know, we see what he can do on the field, what has what he has done on

the field at Utah. You get to spend some time with him like we just did, and hear how he approaches the game, how he approaches things off the field. You can't help but be really excited for what he could be for this organization. I've always been a big believer in that. Uh, if you want to if you want to change the culture, then you get good people. I mean seriously, that's the only way you do it. You get good people that are really good football players.

And he fits the bill in both of those categories. When you when you listen to him interview, Because the the interview process through the off season leading up to the draft was lengthy. The NFL they have these formal interviews that they do that league wide they can look at him. Every team does formal interviews that they tape

and that they can review. And he is an A plus character player and he's an A plus player, So you put the two of those things together and this is the kind of building block that you want to have this that on your football team so you can change the culture. And so I'm really excited about him. Uh. I can be totally honest with you and that your your top picks of this year's draft AFT are all A plus character guys. And that makes a big difference in past years. Here you saw the where there was

some question marks. There has been absolutely none of that this year with Doug Peterson and Trent Balky. They are getting players that are good people, that are good players to help change this culture. A lot of linebackers, and that's not a bad thing to have a lot of

linebackers with talent of Foyer. Louis Kin is here in free agency, of course, the league's leading tanckler a year ago, and of course they drafted MoMA this year to j were already here, yeah, but specifically the mini camp because we watched it over the weekend. We didn't get to see Louis Khan and some of the other veteran guys, but we had a really good opportunity to watch this rookie class, and it was the drafted players, the free agent guys, and and also some that were here on

a tryout basis. And watching Devon move, he's very athletic, he's very slippery. He's very different then how Muma moves. Mom is kind of like this classic shoulders square, big broad shoulder kind of linebacker. And and if I had to, you know, if this were a four three defense, Muma would be the mic because he's the big, brawny kind of bigger guy, and then Devin would be the will, kind of like what Kelvin Smith was a few years ago.

Because he's athletic, he moves, he can blitz. I think he's gonna give the Jaguar is a great option as a rusher. When you say rush er, what do you mean by that. I don't envision him as a guy that's gonna put his hand in the ground on third down and be a pass rusher. I don't. I think he'd get eaten up just because he's not that size

and he doesn't have that length. But I really believe that when you start mixing things up with positional players that can play multip positions, so like a Trayvon Walker, they can play defensive end or play linebacker. He can rush, he can cover. If you are you start confusing offenses and you're all of a sudden dropping a Trayvon Walker, and then you're sending Devin Lloyd because he is a

good blitzer. Okay, now we're talking. But I envisioned that he will get numbers in the sack department, but not as a hand in the ground pass rusher, but as a what I call a zone dog blitzer or an extra blitzer and man coverage. I mean, his stats at Utah are nuts. I mean, especially every he was all over the ball, like he had four picks last year. I mean, the guy's sacking the quarter. They had more sex than Traylon Walker did last I mean that's just the way the kind of game he played out there.

Well when uh, you know, that's a conversation in and of itself about he had more sacks than Trayvon Walker. But the one thing I love about Devon is that it's always about the ball. Correct. Yes, remember a couple of months ago we were talking about Miles Jack and free agency and do you bring him back? I remember that, and we were talking about, okay, what are his numbers

in the categories that are about the ball. There's no cause fumbles, interceptions, right, the numbers that the difference making plays. And I think some people were a little bit in shock when I said, look, show me the numbers that warrn'ts keeping Miles Jack. And I'm not wasn't trying to

get rid of Myles Jack. Wasn't far from that, But I was just saying, is that you brought in a linebacker in free agency last year that had better numbers than Miles Jack and his salary was about seven or eight million dollars less, And so you've got to find a way to get more impactful numbers from that position.

And here's Devin Lloyd coming from Utah that filled every one of those categories that we're talking about, the numbers that are about the ball, about the ball, what it's about, I mean, played good defense, Okay, you take the ball away, you impact the ball, you impact the passer. Okay, sacks, interceptions, cause fumbles, recovered fumbles, those are all game changing plays. And those are the plays that Devin Lloyd makes. And

what I love about him. Did you hear him talking about how he hasn't had that much time to chop it up with the guys that use that quote chopping up on hip Now, Okay, he's not chopping it up with the guys except for when he's in the building because he's into the playbook. What I meant he's going home at night studying the playbook. I mean that's awesome. That's awesome. And was he I mean, muma, Okay, didn't he ask one of our cohorts can I get a playbook? Absolutely? Yes,

they all they want it. That's nothing wrong with them. Those are the guys. Those are the guys you need. Those are the guys you want. Those are guys. They're gonna help you change the direction of your organization logs, We're gonna find out what concerts you're coming to Daily's place because the busy schedule ahead. Didn't they just have the lumin Ears the last two nights? I yes, I

missed him. Uh this Friday sting Sunday, Chicago, and then next Saturday, June four, the Jacksonville Taco and Margarita Festival, and then June five, the Doobie Brothers with Michael McDonald singing with them, and then two Nights of the Day Matthews Band June six and seven. Black Crows Uni eleventh. I mean this is a Black Crows. Yes, they're great.

I saw them in concert Long Island and like nineteen ninety two, Well, you're about to hear the same exact album because they play the whole Shake Your Moneymaker album and this tour, so get ready for that. Tickets at Daily's Place dot com. We'll return with organized team activities. A preview. What does logs want to see the next three weeks, well four weeks including the mini camp. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. You know what it already has for me? Um with this team.

I think about just the you know, the numbers of the guys that are here in the off season program. That just shows the character is the um. You know, sort of who these guys really are and football is

important to him. You know, winning is important to him, and they very willing to change and wanting to change and needing needing it to change obviously, and um, it's a credit to the players you know, in the leadership of this football team that uh um, you know we have this many guys you know, you know, you know off season program. I now welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. That's head coach Doug Peterson last week ahead of rookie

mini camp. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman. We're on tinted a Am Jaguars dot com, Jack's Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. The podcast on the free I Heart radio app search Jacksonville Jaguars. Hit us up on Twitter at Logs five six. He watches that all the time, let me tell you, and at j P. Shadrick. So there you have it.

That's Doug Peterson talking about the culture. You can already kind of see some change in the building and the way guys are going about their business and wanting to get this thing right from a year, especially the guys that are coming back. Well, the way you truly measure it is when the score start mattering. Okay, once you get to the regular season, but you know, and everybody feels great about where you're at this point of the season.

All thirty two teams and uh, you know, the rookie Minicamp just one of those steps, and it was it was a joy to watch a little different than in past rookie minicamps because the practice was conducted inside the stadium. Because of the construction that's going on outside of the stadium. Everything is happening, uh in the stadium, which is a pretty cool kind of an introduction for some of these

young players. And that when you step out onto the practice field, you look up and you go, oh my goodness, there's a lot of seats in here. Okay, this is probably a little different than one of the places that I played at. Maybe not for a guy like Kevin Austin Jr. Went to Notre Dame, the guy from the guy went to watch it to es State or watch it to Baptist was yeah that yeah, yeah, he was probably like, oh my god, right, a little different, but it was good to watch. And of course the majority

of the media, it was like the pie piper. They were all following Trayvon Walker and everywhere he went, the media followed, and uh, I think some were even actually documenting his wins and losses against the sled I guess what I'm guessing. He was undefeated at look. I will tell you this, uh big, strong, powerful young man. And I think that that was very clear when you watch the film, and then when you watch him in person, it's you're just you're confirming it. He's athletic, he moves well.

I still believe he's got some learning to do and getting a plan to pass rush. But he will not get pushed around, I can tell you that. And watching him almost exclusively stand up in a two point stance, I don't want to say it was eye opening, but it was. I was anticipating how he would practice, would he play with his hand in the ground, would he be up? And clearly he's gonna be up in a two point stands and he looked good, he looked apart. And do you think he can cover consistently? Oh? I

don't think that that's gonna be his strong suit. I mean, look, you're not. Here's the thing. That's not why you're not drafting anybody first overall unless they are a corner to cover. Okay, a linebacker slash defensive end has got one job. Go get him, Go get the guy that's throwing the football. And if you're drafting a guy to drop in the coverage with in that position, you've made a big mistake. But I like. I like the way he moves athletically

and obviously his strength, his size. He's a big guy. Watching Devin Lloyd, He's just athletic. He moves extremely smooth. Uh Snoop Connor the running back, exactly what you kind of expected. A really big upper body, powerful runner. He's a guy that when he was at what the Arkansas or Old miss I mean, Uh, he was a downhill, one cut type of a guy. Uh. Fortner, the center from Kentucky, Okay, looks the part, incredibly smart from all

the reports. He's got two degrees and working on his m B A. And that's the kind of guy that you want to have a center, right, the guy that's calling the adjustments up front, taking pressure off your quarterback because he's got the front, he's got the adjustments, and he's got some things that he needs to work on, some of his lateral movements, second level blocking. He's got to, you know, continue to get better at that, which I

think he will. He was impressive. The two corners that were the six and seventh rounders, one from Watchitah State. The other one from Arkansas, Okay, look like typical six and seventh round corners. They've got they've got the skill set, but now can they get the production and you want to see them more in live action. But from the heightweight, measurables,

the speed, those all look positive. The one guy that I think that is very interesting, that is our two guys that I would say that for me are very interested in the undrafted category wide receiver Kevin Austen Jr. From Notre Dame. Uh. When you watch the film on him at Notre Dame, he's a guy that if it's a contested ball, he catches it and he's going up and I'm talking making contested catches, but most importantly on the top of the route, when he's making adjustments to

the ball, he makes them almost effortless. And he's a big guy. And then he ran a four or three four forty yard dash after it. I mean that's I mean, how does a guy like that not go get drafted? But the production at Notre Dame was a little bit up and down. The last half of his senior season supposedly was very good. But just looking at him, he looks the part. His numbers say that he can be

a part of the part. That was interesting. The other one that, uh, I think is interesting because when we were watching Trayvon Walker, there was a guy that was working with him that we were going that other guy is pretty big too, right, remember that? And so in his name is Deshaun Dixon and he was wearing number forty seven during the rookie minicamp and he's from Norfolk State and JP there's no film on him. I tried

to find it. I didn't find any film. I know it's got to be somewhere just pick him off a lineup. I couldn't find it. I couldn't. I tried to find it. I gotta I gotta ask him some questions to get the film on this guy, because he's an interesting prospect. He's uh, he's a six four five ish two sixty maybe two sixty five pound guy that was doing some of the same things that Trayvon Walker was doing. And when you watch these two guys, you go, wow, those

are outside linebackers. I mean, you're big, I mean big guys. So I mean I want to say I don't want to say that that's that's all that I saw out there, But those are some of the things that uh that impressed me. Watching Muma move was classic linebacker. And when you watch Muma and Devin Lloyd is kind of two different trades. You know, Muma being the shoulders square, he's uh moving laterally like a classic linebacker, where Devon is is more of that athletic just turn and run, and

they're both gonna be, I think, very effective linebackers. And I think they're both wired the way you want to have linebackers and that they're just they're they're they're a thirst for knowledge. So uh so, so far, so good. I mean, the one thing you don't want to have happen, and this has happened before here, is that when you go out there for a rookie camp and you watch some of the guys that you just invested draft picks in or free agent contracts in, and you watch when

you go that doesn't look that good. You didn't have any of those moments. That's a good thing. So that's a good thing. That's a good step in the right There's been one draft pick in Jaguar's history where you went out there mini camp and you went two of them actually where you went. Did they actually draft that guy? Is that the guy it is? I'm not gonna ask you the name name. I don't want to name names on that, but I think everybody wants you to name

names on that. You can't do that. We're not gonna go there. Okay, let's move along. There a couple of different regimes. I mean have been one, you know, one way back digging at him. He might give us what we're looking for. U Can I see the activities schedule coming up the next three weeks of O T A S so ten on the schedule they can get ten

over three weeks. There will be one each week open for media the first of each week Monday this week, Tuesday next week, and then um Monday the week after that, and then there's a three day mandatory veteran Many camp June. When we speak again, that would be on June, the day after Many camps done on this program. What do you want to say about a the Jaguars team at that point and be the Jaguars offense? Where do you want this to feel like on that day? Well, first off,

where they're at? I mean, you're not gonna really have a measuring stick of where they're at. But in a simple, one one word answer, health. You want to make sure that everybody comes out of everything that you're doing healthy. I don't want to have any setbacks, don't want to

lose anybody. Um, you know. To be a little bit more long winded, you'd like to have the offense starting showing some signs of of them clicking to where the quarterback and the receivers are starting to build, the camaraderie, the timing guys are starting to get get to know each other, so the communication is happening. And but you know, a true measuring stick, I mean, there's really not a

measuring stick per se, because you're going against yourself. But you just want to have everybody to continue to work their craft, to continue to get better, to gain an understanding of what they're doing. Because everything is new JP, everything is new, new system, the new coaches, coaches need to learn, players need to learn. Familiarity is something that you want to be able to after the conclusion of

the all season program. When you're going into camp, you're not so much worrying about Okay, what do I do when this check is made and that oh yeah, when we make this check I'm doing this now, I can focus in on the defender and what he's doing. So it's a reactionary thing and you can be athletic instead of the mind slowing you down. So that's what the

off season program I think is is all about. Is that is establishing that core of knowledge so that when you get to the season, you're working on your craft, but more from a physical standpoint, because you've you've gotten a really strong understanding of the mental part of the game down. We'll come back in a moment. We'll go around the National Football League. And I got one other rookie oh that I didn't mention, oh, on the offensive side of the ball. That uh. I'm not saying he's

gonna be all world. I'm just saying somebody to keep an eye on when we come back. Because everybody kind of expected Austin, right, he went to Notre Dame. Okay, but this one, Nope, I didn't go to Notre Dame. Wasn't on anybody's radar. But when you watched them in minicamp, you want, huh, hey, that guy moves pretty good. Okay, he moves pretty good. That might narrow it down a little. It would be a skill position. Okay, well that's all

the that's all the hints we need. We're back in just a moment with plenty more ahead of Jaguars Happy or on the Jaguars Digital Network. Always kind of diving, dapping in outsideline by the world, but just strictly working on outsideline by the hand of practice. I feel like I'm truly getting more comfortable with the position and learn a lot more techniques coming from that position and not

have to learn so many different other positions. You know, you have a lot of techniques to learn, or have these guys opened your eyes up, are ready to Hey, you've been really good at between your level, but you can learn this much more. Oh yeah, they definitely. It's always room for them poom to come from George. There was a lot of techniques that we went over, but also coming here like a George, we run the lot

of tatanys. But once I got here, breakdown a lot of those titanis doutline that put him into a family and focused on that one thing that is Trayvon Walker number one overall pick Jaguars outside linebacker and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadick with Jeff Logerman, and construction continues at the Football Performance Center just outside t i A. Bank Fields. Some walls are going up there looked like some concrete stairwells and some elevator shafts

that are going up. And we're moving right along logs if you're looking on Jaguars dot com. A lot of heavy equipment, a lot of dirt being moved around. And I think when this thing gets done, it's gonna be outstanding. It's huge. It's gonna be huge. First square feet thousand,

I think it is or something crazy. I was talking to Hams of this past week during the rookie minicamp days before the practice, and he was giving me a Hams of my director travel for the Jags and facility and he's doing some of the facilities work and he's got the layout of how everything is gonna look and uh so he was kind of giving me a little a little tutorial off of the architectural drawings. I was like, man, that's gonna be impressive, pretty cool. Yeah, excited for that. Yeah,

me too. I'm excited for it. Players should be very excited for it. And not that there's anything wrong with the facilities they currently have. I mean, this is still an excellent facility here, but by the modern day NFL arms race standard, I guess you could say that it's not keeping pace, so the new one will do that. Oh, this is not even close currently. It's it's crazy how things have changed. College football always had to have that

because it's recruiting. It's that's everything. In the NFL, it's not so much that is it as you need the functionality. But now that you have free agency in the NFL, and it's becoming bigger and bigger and bigger, it is. I don't want to say it's a necessary thing anymore, but it's certainly become uh more necessary than ever before. And on the other side of the street, the Shipyards

project is a go. The final conceptual approval by the Downtown Development Review Board last week, so that means it's a green light and now everything else for seasons involved to make sure this thing is is top not and I have no doubt it will it will be when it's done. Well, I'm looking forward to at some point to where you can walk along the river because I mean, right now you're going from Riverside to essentially what used

to be the Jacksonville Landing. There's this beautiful river walk that you can ride your bike and walk and jog and and do whatever you want to do. But it's it's just it's incomplete. You know. It ends now at the Berkman Plaza, right and you you wanted to keep on going all the way down to the stadium and this whole entertainment area and when it all gets done, it's I think it's going to be fantastic. Can't wait.

Can't gonna be a little while though. They're gonna get a lot of work to do, all right, So you ready for my You left us with a cliffhanger before the last commercial time out? What do you have for us? What rookie us? This nas Bohannon? Okay, yes, okay, yes, what position? He's a tight end, but he was also a forward and basketball. I think that's all he played. Yeah, he was. I think I had to kind of read

up on him. But he played last year at Clemson but not football, played basketball, and then the years before that he played four years at Youngstown State Penguins. The Penguins for real, that's their name. Interesting, So he's got basically a basketball career and then his basketball season was completing and not much of a future I guess in basketball,

and he was a football player in high school. And the agent that he ended up signed with, this is an interesting store is Glenn Schwartzman, and Glenn Schwartzman had Marcus Pollard, who has the same background, same background. UH played college basketball, didn't play college football, ended up going with the Colts and played for a very long time. Currently working with the Jaguars and a couple of different UH capacities including player programs, player development, and this agent

though has UH. I had a number of players like that, Mike Marcus Pollard, um Antonio Gates, Moley Cox most recently. But the reason I bring him up is not because of the story, in the connection with Marcus Pollard any of that, but watching him in the rookie mini camp, he was athletic. I mean, his athleticism is very noticeable. Now there's a long way to go for a guy that played college basket ball to get to the point to where he's going to be an effective NFL player.

Tight end got to learn to block. You know, is does he have the level of tough toughness, Does he have the level of strength because they list him at about six five six six five ish, he's gonna have to be a little bit bigger than that. And but the one thing for certain, if you're a tight end and you can block a little bit and you can catch, you can create some major headaches for defensive coordinators. And this is an interesting this is an interesting thing something

to follow. I'm not saying he's gonna be a great player. I'm just saying something to keep an aisle. Another guy who went through that was Chris man Hurts. He played college basketball only and got a chance to try and became a blocker. Yes, but how does that have How

funny is that? Right? But he said last year during the Teboaux experiment whatever, that it took Chris said it took him two years to really understand the physicality knee did to play as he figured he figured it out, you know what I mean, Like it took that long.

So he definitely figured that end of it out because he's a very good blocker the you know, and this is the kind this is the kind of move that you do where you're an NFL team, Okay, you have roster spots and opportunities to maybe say, hey, look, let's see if we can develop this guy. You don't bring and no offense to Tim Tebow, but you don't bring a guy that is thirty something years old into camp and seeing if he can be a congregular contributor at tight end. So but this is the smart thing, and

it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch his athleticism. He caught one ball on a crossing route and I was like, whoa who who's like that? And I got my rookie roster sheet out and I was like, okay, I never heard of him. He's a tryout player and what he's signed. And then I kind of went back and read up on him because I was curious, just like the the young man from Norfolk State. I go to watch film on this nas Bohannon No, no, no, to watch some a CC basketball, Like I wonder what

the problem is. And then I found out later on that he was a basketball player. Hey, let's go around the National Football League in our five minutes remaining and start off with Ravens. Punter Sam Coke retired today, So yeah, uh, well, that means the only player left in the NFL from the two thousand six draft is Marcedes Lewis no kidding left in the entire league entirely. Yes, of course, there's a few players from earlier drafts still around. You know.

Tom Brady is still from the two thousand draft. Uh, there's Aaron Rodgers from the OH five draft, three from the OH seven draft. From me, by the way, just a little note on Cook. Excellent player, excellent punter, excellent hang time. He had arguably some of the best hang time of a punter in the last to three decades of any punter that that has been special teams in Baltimore. But he was notorious for his gross average and his net average. The differential was incredibly small. Very good player.

The l A Chargers broke down broke ground on their new football complex and El Segundo fourteen acre sites, slated for completion in July twenty four. The temporary headquarters is in Costa Mesa, down in Orange County, and the new headquarters three miles from l A X seven miles from so far. The Lakers and Kings are also down in El Segundo, so they're getting started with a complex of

permanent complex ahead of the Rams. The Rams have just a simple complex on the campus of California, Lutheran some temporary railers because they spend all their money on the stadiums. Right, that's what it is. It's functional. It's what it is. And they got like where their equipment goes, Like for the equipment room, they have these portable container things that go on ships. They have three of those. They open them up, they throw all the stuff in there. That's it.

Interest it works. They want a Super Bowl. Yeah, oh darn. I would not want to break tradition. I would keep it status quote to make sure that you don't break the mojo. UH Giants head coach Brian Dable said in January he wasn't sure if he'd be calling the offensive plays. Well. Mike Kafka, former Jaguar, by the way, is the offensive coordinator.

A hot minute for yeah A couple of days said Thursday that Kafka has been calling plays at practice, but the team has not made any decision about the process and how it will go in the regular season. If you're calling plays now, we call plays in the fall. Let's let's say this JP. Okay, when you call plays and practice, it's not like calling plays and game. Okay,

you're not in the heat of the moment. You're not having to look at your call sheet and go, okay, we got second and seven, okay, let me see second and seven calls. Okay, And then you're looking at a list of to pick from and I'm sick. Yeah, that's not what you do, right. It's all scripted in practice this time of year. So if Kafka's calling plays, I

could call plays in a scripted practice. Joe Burrow took fifty one sacks last regular season, the league high nineteen extra sects in the postseason, and on the Full Scent podcast this week, said you look at when they happen third down sacks. Who cares about third down sacks. I'm gonna try to extend the play as long as I can. I get the first down on third down unless I'm in field goal range. He also said there are good

sacks and bad sacks. Do you buy that? Yes, But he's also trying to protect his offensive line a little bit from the criticism, and I understand that, and that's what a good leader and a good quarterback will do. So, uh, defend and make sure that you own some of those sacks, And that's exactly what he did. The fact of The matter is, though, is that if Joe Burrow wants to have a long, illustrious career and a highly successful career, that number has to come down. Throw it away, Joe.

The Bills and the NFL Foundation have donated four hundred thousand dollars to Buffaloes East Side Community in the aftermath of the recent killings at a local grocery store, two hundred thousand to the Buffalo Together Community Response Fund, the remainder to various nonprofits on emergency response efforts addressing immediate needs of residents. Good stuff from the Bills are good. Good job Buffalo Bills. What a tragedy. So that'll do it for our show today. Yeah, that's craziness. Yeahs our,

thanks to devn Lloyd, Jaguars. He's awesome, gonna be a good football player now and always a great visit. I think that's gonna be Whatever we can get him on shows, it's gonna be great. I can't wait to see him live and I'm talking live and in past. Yes with that number thirty three going Brent Reabert, Joe Fortunado or thanks to devn Lloyd for Jeff Flagman, I'm j P. Shadrick This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Mmmm.