Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 4

couple of weeks away. It's eerily quiet right now. We'll see what happens in the coming week with the franchise hag window closing next week, and then, of course all heck could break loose once the teams start trimming players free agency. Right around the corner. Were eight weeks away from the NFL Draft starting in Cleveland, Ohio, So two months ahead of draft talk, and we'll go around the

National Football League. Jeff Lackerman with us from his home studio today as he is every week, and here we are logs. You know, this is an early quiet time around the Jags. There's not a lot of news coming out of this place right now, but in two weeks time that should change. It may be quiet for us and for most fans, but make no mistake about an inside the building, it is incredibly noisy. They have a lot going on. They're trying to figure out exactly which

direction that they're gonna go in free agency. They're trying to figure out who's going to be available in free agency. They're trying to stack their draft boards position by position and overall and uh and they're trying to do it with a with a new staff. I mean so um. I think when you have an organization that has kind of been operating for a couple of years, as are a number of years, and has been efficient, it's probably

there's a little bit more of a comfort zone. But when you have a new coach, a new design of the organization, a new general manager, and some new components to the personnel staff besides the general manager, there's a lot going on. It's just that we're not hearing about it. But trust me that Jaguars have a lot going on and they're working their rear ends off right now. And I think, well, we'll see the fruits of that labor soon.

You would think that early in free agency, the first day or two, since the Jaguars have the most money to spend in the NFL, that they'll be players because they have plenty of needs that could be helped by a veteran free agent player to come in right away

and play well. And and you know, JP, to be honest with you know, you kind of wonder sometimes when when Shan Khan made the decision to clean house and then all of a sudden with the conversation that he had with the media about the change and how he felt it was needed, and he talked about how much he was involved in the decision making throughout all of last year leading up to the point where we're at right now. You sit there and you go, you know, he might be smarter than I think a lot of

people give him credit for. And that you know, you have a situation here to where you have an amazingly attractive situation. You have an organization that is flushed with cap space, that has acquired great draft picks and uh

and also the timing of that with no pushing. And I'm not saying that he predicted COVID, but I'm just saying that with COVID in the situation that is upon us right now, boy, I mean, there's probably not more a more attractive new situation in the National Football League than what the Jaguars have, so, you know, to to be able to attract what he viewed as the best

of the best in urban Meyer. Obviously it worked tremendously, but you know, you just wonder, you know, what was some of the decisions and you go back and really were some of the decisions that we've seen kind of put in play here in the last couple of months, where some of these decisions may be made maybe longer than that ago, and that now we're just starting to we're only getting a glimpse of really what is happening

of the inner workings of this organization. But look, the Jaguars are in in the catbird seat, so to speak. This might be the one year in the NFL's history that you can improve your team more so maybe than in the other year because of what's going to happen with the cap situation. You're gonna see a lot of people that are gonna be out of work, and the asking price of a lot of these people that are gonna be out of work, I think it's gonna drop significantly.

And so if you're a team that has cap space that has needs, which the Jaguars certainly fall into both of those categories. You are in a great position to acquire talent and in a great position to improve your

football team. And I'm gonna tell you this, JP, Yes, they would be crazy not to try to improve their football team, because the last thing in the world that you want to do is to try to do something like what they did or what they've called well and Gus Bradley back in and that was to build through the draft and build through you From looking I'm not saying that can't work, but you've got to be able to support a young quarterback who's going to be coming

into this organization. You've got to support them, and you support them by putting good players around them. I'm curious, two legs, once these deals start becoming public, once the newly year hits and free agency opens for business and deals are made and contracts are signed, what kind of deals might we see? Will the will the players want maybe a shorter deal, and then once this cap expands again a year or two out, maybe they get a little more of the piece of the pile. I wonder

how much that would happen this year. I think it's gonna depend on the player. You know, if you're talking about a veteran player. Look, you know, you look, you're trying to You're trying to maximize that. You know, if you've got one contract left, You're like, look, I've got to get all I can get right now. I've got to get as much upfront money as possible because this is my last go round. I'm not gonna go ahead

and enter the dance again in free agency. Whereas if it's a if it's a young player and there are some free agents, and the Seattle Seahawks have one at Griffin, the quarterback who was essentially I think five years old, and he's entering free agency, well for him, look, he he might have two contracts, maybe three contracts, depending on the length of the deals that he signs in his future.

So for I think a younger player, it would probably be more beneficial to do a shorter term deal because if you look at what some of the moneys are being reported about, what is the expected TV revenue contracts coming in out around two billion a year. I mean, you would be absolutely crazy if if you're gonna do anything longer than a year or two because you want to get back in free agency again when the TV

money is bumped. Number one and number two when the gates are back open again and teams are making money and concessions and ticketing and parking and everything else. You know. So, I think it all just depends on the player in the situation that that player is dealing with JP. But man, if if I'm a young guy just entering free h C and I've got you know, I'm not thinking that

I'm gonna be done until another seven or eight years. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna sign a short term deal and then try to cash in with a big deal like we've seen in the past once to COVID situation. Subside TV money has jumped and things get back to being a little bit more normal to be able to cash in again on another contract very soon. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. That's Jeff log Whan. I'm J P. Shadrick. We're on Tin Tin Am Radio in Jacksonville and on the Jaguar

social media pages each Thursday afternoon. We were talking about this on another podcast earlier this week. Logs, you know, the the idea of how many new players will be on this final fifty three roster after training camp. It's a one in fifteen team. It's a new coach, it's a new GM. They want to make it in their own likeness. So my idea was like, thirty of the fifty three might be new faces to the organization next year. Does that sound about right to you? Well, it could be.

And well the reason I said that because there's eleven draft picks free agents coming, you know, undrafted guys that they're gonna keep around. It's you're you're pushing a lot of new guys right there. The one thing that JP. Look, I mean it very well could be. I mean, you could have thirty new faces easily with with fifty three man roster. And then reality, you're not really just talking

about a fifty three man roster. You've got to expanded practice squads and in a much more liberal situation because I think the code rules are not going away in one They're still gonna be around, so your roster is really much bigger than But well, with that being said, I think that you could see a significant change. I mean you can see thirty new faces very easily, but that's not just out of fifty three. That's out of a much bigger number with practice squad and everything else.

And I think though that the organization has to be really careful. And when I say careful, I'm not trying to say that that they're going to do something and and and mess it up. But what I mean by as far as the age structure, you know, your football team that you have right now, the way it is right now, is incredibly young. You've got eleven draft picks that are sitting right there for you to you and I think at some stage of the game you need to start thinking how young do we really want our

football team to be? And because you know, you're gonna have a great opportunity city to be able to acquire talent and free agency because of the number of people that are going to be looking for work because of cat situations with other teams, so you're gonna be able to fill a lot of those spots with free agency.

Do you want to add another eleven rookies to a football team that was already the youngest roster in the National Football League last year or would it make more sense to take the eleven draft picks that you have, maybe package some of them together to move up for one picks, in other words, trade two picks for one that may be higher in the draft, or trade three

picks for one that may be higher or jp. The even better situation might be is to trade one of this year's draft picks for a higher pick in two. In a draft where you're you don't have quite as much equity, so build equity towards the future. And if you're the gentlemanager, you've got to be sitting there thinking that would be a perfect situation because we're gonna be able to improve our football team, and for you agency, we're available and going to be able to do it

reasonably from a financial standpoint. We have a ton of draft picks from last year, and it depends on how they like them or how they don't like those type of guys. And then with the draft picks that you have now, leverage them into higher picks or future picks to keep the age structure of your roster where you want it to be, which is a little bit more

mature and not so young, so plenty to dissect. And that's exactly what they've been doing since they arrived in the office here, getting ready for the next few weeks. Free agency coming up two weeks away from yesterday, and then we're eight weeks from the NFL Draft. We're back in a moment. We'll hear a little bit from Rhese Davis ESPN. He joined us today. We'll hear the full

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pleasure and Baptist Health changing healthcare for good Elevator. He elevated it from you know, the just being a good or the best, big end programmed being one of the best programmed in the country. And that's what That's what he's done consistently at the college level. So I would agree with you in terms of of his legacy, I mean Saban stands apart from everybody, but I would say Urban and Uh because he's done it more than one place. He also won at Ukah. He wanted full and green

for that mad rebon everywhere. But I would say that in terms of impact on the sport and changing the shape of the sport, and Nick would be at the top. Urban would certainly be right there, but I'd also put Devil Sweeney in that category as well. That's Reese Davis. ESPN College Game Day hosts joined us earlier today. The full conversation will come up Monday on Jaguars dot Com and Jack's social channels. So we appreciate Reese for his time, and uh, well we'll get a little more into the

conversation of Urban's legacy as a college head coach. And uh there's little conversation logs about a certain quarterback for a certain university against South Carolina. Uh, Trevor Lawrence. So plenty of conversation with Reese coming up. He's been at this for a long time, So look for that coming up early next week. Earlier this obviousason we had right after the hiring of Urban Meyer, m kirk Herb Street, We're just gonna go for the whole College Game Day

crew logs. Why not get them all on here? Why not? I mean, JP, I mean, look, look, I think it's great and and and here's the thing, and everybody that you talked to when when we start talking about two people, which is Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, they have nothing but great things to say. About them as far as the quality of coach and the quality of where looking.

And many people may like or not like certain personalities of one or the other, but the reality is is that if you're sitting there trying to evaluate Urban Meyer as a coach, there's no debate that he's one of the best football coaches that there is on the planet, and that Trevor Lawrence is one of the best quarterbacks that there is on the planet right now when it comes to college football and on the sleep we gotta wait and see how the transition goes to the National

Football League level, but many people expect that to not to be a very difficult transition. So look, there's a lot of things to be excited about and a lot of reason to be excited, and and look, I'm right in that boat. You know, you've got a coach who's

approven commodity. And this kind of reminds me going back to nine when Jimmy Johnson made the jump from the University of Miami to the Dallas Cowboys, and I was actually able to see some of that firsthand with Jimmy because that was pretty cool JP when I was a senior and getting ready for the Draft. I participated in a couple of All Star Games, one of them being the Blue Gray which JP you know all about them,

the Crampton Bowling Montgomery. Yeah, absolutely, it was. Yeah, it wasn't exactly uh you know, uh posh or anything of that nature. I can say that, but it was good football and it was competitive and uh yeah, there wasn't a whole lot went on, and it was a Christmas Day thing, so it wasn't exactly where you wanted to be. But nonetheless it to look at the competition and when we played ball, let's go and so it was a great experience for me. But the East West Shrine Game

was something that was really nice. You know, they took great care of us. It was a about ten steps up from the Blue Gray Game. It was in Palo Alto, California, and it was almost dangerous because they gave us they had vehicles that were for the use of the players that came there. So we had about four or five of us of guys that were players and and we had a van and we ended up going out quite

a bit. And one of the coaches on our staff was Jimmy Johnson, and at this time, Jimmy wasn't named as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys yet he was still just one of the coaches on the staff of the of the East squad of the East West Shrine Game, and Mike Godfried was our head coach, and so got a chance to hang out with Jimmy quite a bit, and he was relaxed, and nobody knew that he was gonna be taking the Dallas Cowboys job at that time, and maybe he knew that, No, we didn't know,

and uh, and so it was cool to spend some time around him. And I've gotten to know Jimmy through the years, and he's an outstanding coach. No, a couple of guys and Darryl Johnson and Mark Stepanovski that played for him for a very long time and had nothing but going things to say about him as far as him being a coach and getting a team to win. And so, I mean, some of those same things I think are the reason that people are excited about Urban

Meyer and Jacksonville. You know, you've got a great situation. You're flush with draft picks. The Jimmy Johnson situation created it with the herschel Walker trade. So you're not gonna have a trade to get all the draft picks as you've already got them. But but the excitement for the coach and also the expectations and the excitement for a quarterback coming in. You know, Troy and coming in the Dallas Cowboys and here you got Trevor Lawrence coming into

the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to be coming in. You know, there's so many different parallels. It's gonna be excited, exciting to kind of watch the growth of the entire thing and eventually down the road and maybe hopefully draw comparisons

of the two. It will be. You know, we were I was talking to Research Davis earlier today and it was we're going through some of the things, the choke that we were going through, some of the coaches that have gone from college to the NFL, and there's been some positives you mentioned Jimmy Johnson Switzer came in. It was kind of a already set up and ready, but he still had to go in the Super Bowl and he did that. Uh, Pete Carroll, your guy obviously had success.

But then you can go the other way, right, Spurrier didn't last long, didn't work out well. Saban they won some games, but just not enough. They didn't have the right quarterback down there in Miami when he was there. The Alabama thing might not have ever happened if Drew Brees shows up in Miami. So, you know, and it's it's kind of a feeling right now. There was an initial buzz nationally over the Urban Meyer hiring, but then I don't I don't feel that national buzz about Urban

right now. I mean, maybe it's there's so much other stuff going on in the league right now, free agencies coming up. But I think maybe once they get back on the field again, maybe it'll hop back. And you know, the first week, if they they're winning football games, I think that will really shine again. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think the buzz has has subsided at all. JP. It's just that the conversation about the National Football League has almost taken a little bit of a break on

most people's minds. And when the topic comes back to the National Football League, trust me, Urban Meyer and the Jacksonville Jaguars, they're gonna be right back at the top of that conversation. And you know, and it's interesting, you know, you you brought up some guys that some have made great successful transitions from college to pros, some that haven't made successful transition from the college of pros. And you

brought up Pete Carroll, and Pete Carroll looked. The reality is that Pete Carroll uh started at the University of Pacific and then he was a defensive coordinator when I was with the Jets back in early days. Eventually he was the head coach and was not successful with the Jets, and then eventually he leaves there, and then he goes to Page Rates and he wasn't successful there. He goes to USC and he was incredibly successful there, and obviously you have the ability to recruit and so it's not

a level playing field in college football. Well, then he goes to Seattle and he's kind of average, and then all of a sudden he gets quarterback in Russell Wilson and then he wins the Super Bowl. You know Bill Belichick, I mean, you can look at Built Belichick the same thing,

longtime coach of the Cleveland Browns. Didn't really have a great quarterback with Cleveland, and then all of a sudden he gets Tom Brady, which is many people considered the goat and then he just starts winning super Bowl after super Bowl after super Bowl and who who what? What? What quarterback did Nick Saban have? I mean Nick Saban had Dan Rato, but it was Dan Reno at the end of his ring and there was absolutely no other help on that roster for Nick Saban to win with. So, uh, look,

Howard Schnellenberg. I mean, there's a lot of college coaches that may transition, and the one important factor for all of these guys that make the move from college that

pros that you've got to have a quarterback. And I always say this when you start talking about coaching, and I understand that coaching matters, but also the other part of that reality is if you look at all the Hall of Fame coaches that exist in the in the in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, how many coaches are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame that don't have a Hall of Fame quarterback? Right, There's not many come hand in hand. Now, there's really there's not many.

I mean Joe Gibbs, I mean, because Joe Gibbs one with three different with with Doug Williams and Joe Thiesman and Jay Schrader. You know, so, but I mean the rest of the coaches. I mean you're talking about guys that had Hall of Fame quarterbacks that helped them win Super Bowls. And so with urban Meyer, look, urban Meyer is no dummy, and urban Meyer knows that if you're

gonna win in the National Football League. And he said it in one of his interviews, and he talks about football being a quarterback sport, and he emphasized that it wasn't just about being at the National Football League level. He essentially said that it means and everything and it's important for everything at every level of football, from peewee to high school lunge two pros. And he hit it right on the head there. I've got to correct you on one note though, Um you mentioned save it at Miami.

You said Marino. Marino was done in Remember the Jags beat him in the playoff game. That was his final game. He retired at that point. Saban got there in oh five, and his quarterbacks the first year we're gust Farratt and Sades rosen Fells. And then in two thousand and six the quarterbacks in Miami were Joey Harrington and Cleo Lemon Boy. Some real good, right, So who is the uh who was the coach for Dan Reno's last year? For my

Jimmie Johnson, Ji, Jimmy Johnson. Actually I got confused. I'm sorry. I knew it was a former college coach. But I mean even the great Jimmy Johnson, a great of a coach as he is, and he has Dan Marino and he but still he doesn't win. So but Nick Saban had no chance with those quarterbacks JP, no chance. They've gotten breeze maybe, and they were close to getting them.

They just didn't work out down there and the rest. Look, if I had those quarterbacks, man, I would be I would be turning around and running back to college football at the speed of light. Get out of here quick, because you know what when I get when I get back to college football, JP. Okay, I'm gonna go recruit the best quarterback in the country. Okay, done work that way in the National Football League. You know, you keep

you keep swinging and keep trying to get your guy. Okay, but you're not guaranteed of getting that guy in college football. Guess what if you're Nick Saban, if you walk into this young man's house over here and you say, hey, man, I'm Nick Saban and I'm gonna win at the University of Alabama. That young man who might be the best quarterback in the country. Guess what. You ain't gotta hope you can get him in the draft. All you gotta do is convincing. Come on over here, young man, You're

gonna win with me. And that's the difference between the pro game and the college game. Plenty ahead, we'll come back in a moment. Free agency around the corner. We'll touch on a couple of pending free agents that play tight end position and one that Logs absolutely loves and has loved for years in this division. Could he be available? We'll find out a little later. Some Trevor Lawrence rehab

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dot com. Welcome back, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagavan, Glad you're long with us today. And by the way, you know check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's available on Apple, iTunes, Spotify or wherever fine podcasts are downloaded logs. I know you're subscribed to that, so thank you for that. We appreciate that. All the five stars, all the comments, everything. So this show is also always um archived as a podcast.

We have the Huddle Up Podcast on Wednesdays now with Bucky Brooks, John Osier and yours truly, and then on Monday's Jaguars Reporters, So Sexton, Ashlon Sullivan, Oshan and I are on that one. Uh, you're on this one. Longs. We've got Tuesday morning drive time, which is fine, and then Friday we have the The Jags Broadcast Weekend Review

presented by t I A A. Bank. So there's a lot going on on the podcast world now for the Jags, and even when it's kind of quiet, Like we still have all these shows going on, which is a good thing, and it will only grow once we get closer to the NFL Draft in the next two months, it will be a lot more content to put out their logs. Well, JP, I can honestly say that I'm I'm a big fan of you and like anything that you do. Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm a I'm a subscriber, I'm a fan, and

so yeah, I'm a big JP. Shad how about that. I appreciate that that's not what I was going for there, but okay, I'll take it. Thank you me, And I'm just trying to tell the truth. I mean, look, here's the thing, you know. I mean, with the phones that we have nowadays, I mean, look, you've got no excuse to not be up to date on everything that the

Jaguars are going through. J P. It's not me, you know, it's it's the whole team, team effort, team effort, And we have a plenty of different shows on this on this website and on the podcast network. You can check it out. Hey, let's um, let's shift gears quickly here tight ends in free agency. You know, we've We've touched on that position group over and over and over again. How it's been such an issue around here to not

have anybody really stick. I mean, they've gone through the Julius Thomas, the Austin Seferian Jenkins of the world, Tyler Effort most recently, and none of them really quite have worked out as anticipated. It tied end. They've tried to draft and that hasn't worked out. Josh Olivers been banged up, he hasn't been able to play. So now it's you know,

at some point you gotta figure this thing out. And and Bucky made a pretty good point the other other week on the Huddle Up podcast, Bucky Brooks, and you know, having tight ends is great, but you have to have a history and a way to use the tight ends effectively. And I think the match of that would do And leave leave the graphic up for a minute, because because I want to go through some of these guys here real quick, because I got a thought on each one

of them. Tyler Davis was a draft pick last year that disappointed big time and uh, and so his opportunity to make the roster this year I think is in doubt. Tyler Eiffer as a veteran guy. You know, he was okay, but I mean, the reality is that you're not paying for what you're getting. You need to go get somebody that's that's young, that's got speed, that can threaten the middle and threatened the deep part of the field. Ben Ellison a guy that I liked. I think he's got

a real chance. I think he's much better than Tyler Davis. All you have to do is look at how many times that Ellison was active compared to Tyler Davis. Last year. James of Shaughnessy was essentially playing on one leg. Eric Salbert was kind of an afterthought because they weren't getting anything out of Tyler Davis. And they bring Salbert in, who had been around a little bit, and he becomes kind of on the line type of tight end. And Josh Oliver is very intriguing because you know, what can

he do? We don't know. I mean, He's like the Christmas present that you keep forgetting about every year and it gets left in the back of the behind the tree and everybody forgets about it, and then you're like, well, let's just save it for next year. We'll open it up next year. Well, then next year rolls around and gets forgot forgotten about it behind the tree again. And uh. And the reason why it's because he's been hurt. And

that's not good. I mean, here's the reality. Have you've been playing the National Football League, the first and most important thing is availability. It's not about your ability, it's about availability again and and so hopefully he can get on the field this year and stay healthy. But look,

you gotta go find your guy. And when I say find your guy, you need to find somebody that can threaten the field, that has speed, that has quickness, that is going to provide a comfort level for a young quarterback. I love John Smith of the Tennessee Titans, and I've made that known many times before. And I think he will be available. The Tennessee Titans are going to have some cat issues and so he's expected to be on

the market now. Last year he had a somewhat of an injury played year, had some knee issues and was active for about fourteen games. But think a lot of the games that he was active, he just wasn't very effective because of the injuries. But when he is on his game, John new Smith, I think is he's not at that top tier, but I think he's a He's a notch below and looking. If you can get a notch below that top tier of the guy who's in Kansas City and the guy that's in San Francisco, you'll

take that any day of the week. And what I like about John and Smith he is competitive as the day is long. He is a good, willing blocker. He's got quickness and he's got the ability to do things after the catch, and that's what you want with the tight end. So I think you got to take a strong look at him. Here. Here's the other thing to Laney Walker, who was a longtime Tennessee Titan, is a guy that uh that wants to get back into the game.

He sat last year out and there would be little to no risk with a guy like the lady Walker. So do you take a chance on him. When I say a chance, you're not taking a financial chance because I think it would be a minimum guy. But do you take take a little flyer on him and see if he's got anything left the tank. Because the last time we saw Delaney Walker before he got hurt j P, he was pretty good. Yeah, he's he's towards this organization before he is thirty six years old blogs but veteran

minimum maybe why not? Right? I mean, look, look, I mean there's there's look at Gronk Man. I mean, Gronk goes and retires and comes back and ends up doing some great things this past year for Tampa Bay. UH. The tight end that played UH for the Dallas Cowboys. You know what was his name? J C. Witten? D Witten? I mean he played forever for the Dallas Cowboys. And he slows molasses. He goes and he and he goes to Monday night booth and he and he becomes a

not very good in the broadcast booth. He goes back into football and he's still playing good ball. I mean, so look, I mean thirty six. I mean, if anybody can do it, it's a Delanney Walker. Because, like I said, the last time that I saw Delaney Walker play football, he was still pretty good and still a Pro Bowl type level player. But he had an injury. So where is he at with that injury? I'd like to find out Hunter Henry could come free as well. Chargers tight

end too. You know, let's see last season, fourteen games, UH sixty catches, six under thirteen yards. He's been over six hundred yards the last two years. Four touchdowns last season. He's a guy that's put up numbers. Yeah, look, I mean he's he's a guy that could that could do some good things. I mean for me though, Uh, John O. Smith, I think he's got more juice, you know what I mean. I mean that juice to where you're talking about when a defensive coordinator sits there and goes, what are we

gonna do on the tight end? How do we treat him? Do we treat him as a receiver? Do we treat him as a tight end? Do we treat him as a blocker? I mean, those are the guys you want it. Does Hunter Henry do that for you? Do they? Does he strike fear? How many touchdowns that Hunter Henry have last year? Jpeople? Those sixty some oddcast four? Okay? John new Smith had eight and he only had like forty

catches last year in limited action with injury. For me, I'm taking John H. Smith ahead of a Hunter Henry even though he was got some injury issue. If he's if he's all clear on all that, I'm taking John set all right. There you have it. We're pretty clear on what Logs wants to do it tight end and it's John ouse Smith. We'll see if he's free first and if the Jaguars make a move to go try to get him in the first week or so of free agency. Let's come back in a moment. Trevor Lawrence's

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Castler Creative, Jacksonville, Florida, results driven marketing and the proud partner that Jacksonville jaguash Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman, Glad you're a long let us say. And when we're mentioning the podcasts earlier blogs, I left off and I will hear about it, So I've made a correction here. The ozone podcast is also each week hosted by our good friend John Osan the Ozone Podcast. Who's that guy? He's the senior writer for Jaguars dot Com.

You might have heard of him, so, uh, I haven't met him. You will at some point soon and his done sounds familiar. Well, well, we'll get you in touch early next week. The next ozone podcast will come out with Peter Schreeger from NFL Network. He has a great visit ozone does each week with a great national guest or coach or player or whoever is the topic of the week. So that will come out early next week. My apologies to Ozone. I'm sure since he's like, I

love Ozone. I'm just kidding. I'm just I'm just kidding. Is uh I can tell I will say this, Um, John is Johnny Ozone whatever you wanna call him, one of the most talented writers that there is in a national football league. I think that Jackson was very fortunate to have him. And I'm being serious about this because

I'll give you an example. The Indianapolis Cults, and since I've been doing the broadcasting of the football games, which you know, if you go back to doing uh television, which you go all the way back to gosh, my first year going that was UH nine with Fox and then eventually with radio, starting with the Jaguars and oh three. Whenever I did an Indianapolis Cults game, the Cults PR department, I mean it was terrible, terrible When I say that they you know, because it was the Peyton Manning era.

So you would open up the public relations guide and the weekly release and it was just all the statistical information and You're like, look, dude, I don't have time. This is not a statistician broadcast. I don't have time to go through fifty pages of how great Peyton Manning is just in the numbers. Just give me the cliff Notes version, give me a summary, give me bullet points, give me information. And the Colts never gave that to you.

So you know what I did. At the time Johnny had already left Jacksonville and then he was actually writing for Colts dot com. I would get all of my little tidbits and nuggets of information that would would help our broadcast from John Oshan's writing on Colts dot com and then wherever he was at because there was a period of time that he wasn't but he was still covering the team. That's how good of a writer John Oshres.

He never missed anything when it came aim of the Colts, and I relied on him to get my cults information. So just then, that's the god's honest truth. I'm not trying to say that to pump up Johnny. O'sher. Trust me. Well, I'll say this that you mentioned it was the Peyton Manning era, but it was the reason why there was no information coming out officially through the Colts PR department

because it was the Bill Polian era as well. And that was no, no, no, no, no, Look look, look you had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne Peyton manning the two pass rushers Freeney and mathis when you had Hall of fame type guys, okay, And so when you have hall of fame type guys, you don't have to sit there and list every single catch that they've ever had in their career. Give them five key things to talk about

in a broadcast about each guy. They may not use all five, but the real key to a public relations department and is focusing in the narrative of on certain guys. Give them the important, give them the nuggets, give them the nugget that they're gonna use, and make it easy for them in a broadcast. And the CULTPRD staff, for whatever reason during that time period they didn't get it. And uh and Dan Edward's son is now working for the cold PR department. So I think things are gonna change.

I think I think so too. Let's move along here to the quarterback prospect list. You know, this is the time of year. Trevor Lawrence has been for three years heralded as the one at some point the number one overall, picking the best quarterback in college football and all these things. But as expected hashtag as expected. You know, it's about this time before the draft, two months out people start

putting these lists out, looking at more tape. Oh we found this guy, and now these lists start to change a little bit. Chris Sims, when we're NFL Quarterback now with the Pro Football Talk, put his newest quarterback ranking list out and Trevor Lawrence was not number one. Zack Wilson has moved to the top of his quarterback list, and he went through along reasoning why earlier this week

on Pro Football Talk. But that's kind of this is that timeframe when people look at maybe some reasons why you shouldn't pick a guy over another, and list change and you find tell me, tell me the big reason why Chris Simms thought that he should be over Trevored Long. Basically it was complete package, can make the big time throws. He has the mindset of um, you know, he actually dropped names like Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. He has that type of arm ability. Said so, so Chris Sims

is now Sigmund Freud. I don't know, he's digging into the mind quarterback. It's funny though, like the reaction to these is what cracks me up. Is like people freaking out out over this. It's not I think I'll say is that the Jets are gonna get a really good

quarterback and maybe uh. It kind of just makes me laugh though, because the former senior editor of Jaguars dot Com, Vic Keshman, used to kind of laugh and because he would talk to scouts or he would talk to the talent evaluators and and they would give Vic, you know, his their opinion on a certain guy. And they they tell Vic and and they look at him, go the look in his eye just tell by the look in

his eye that this guy can play. You know. It's like put you some kind of uh you know, secret uh abilities to be able to look into a guy's soul in the crystal ball of his future and to see what he's gonna be. H. But look, look at Christens is a title to his opinion, and there's a lot of really good quarterbacks. But when you look at the traits that he talked about that put the young man ahead of Trevor Lawrence, the reality is that Trevor

Lawrence does all those things. But then Trevor Lawrence has also done it on the national stage, and he's also done it everywhere and at every level he's ever been. And oh, by the way, he has better physical attributes to play the position at the National Football League level. He's got better sight lines because he's got more height, he's got the size, he's got the athleticism, he's got

everything that you want. So I'm not trying to completely, you know, to say that Chris Simms is full of it, but uh, I think Chris Sims needs to maybe go back and reanalyze the tape a little bit, because I've watched the tape and there's no way. Pete Friscoe always says,

everyone's entitled to their own wrong opinion. Let's go around the National Football League and start off with the schedule release, and Ben Fisher Sports Business Journal said the NFL says that it's currently targeting the second week of May for the schedule release. Historically, logs the release has come before the draft most years, and then last year, of course, it was pushed back into early May, and it could

be even deeper. And the reasoning it's because the talk of the seventeen game schedule that could be coming after NFL owners meetings at the end of March, and the television deals. All that combined could push that announcement back, and that's a that's a big offseason mile post to

to really get people fired up for the season ahead. Well, that would be a lot to do in one off season to be able to negotiate new TV deals, to expand the season to seventeen games, and also do it, by the way, we still have a global pandemic going on. I mean, that would be a lot to be able to accomplish. But I think the league needs to focus in on for this year. This is just my pain. They need to focus in on sixteen games for this year, make that the focus, and worry about getting things more

back to normal with the COVID situation. Before you say, okay, let's just go to seventeen games and look, I understand that there's a lot of money at stay okay and and totally get it, and that's not going to go away in the future. Though you still have the ability to to get to seventeen games. I think you've got to find a way to get more normalcy for your season this year with sixteen games, to where you're starting to find a way to bring fans back, etcetera, etcetera.

Before you start saying, Holy, let's go ahead and add seventeen games. You know, But the amount of money that they're talking about, I think with the networks obviously entails. And the reason for some of the sizeable increases in the money is to I think in large part of them talking about seventeen games. And so at some point you've got to go ahead and stop talking about it and do it and then then commit yourself to that

and then you make a lot more money. I get it, But I think this year, I think you have to commit to getting back to more normalcy with sixteen games and still dealing with a global pandemic before you're worrying about adding the seventeenth game. That's just my opinion. Well, we we all know this next player has never met a microphone he doesn't like, and he's using one lately. Jalen Ramsey, rams cornerback, is in the media again this week.

He says Deshaun Watson is quote extremely serious about not playing for the Texans again. That was on the Huddle and Flow podcast this week. Of course, Ramsey and Watson had the same agent. There's a notorious picture. Not notorious there's a photo of all three of them together that Jags fans, some of them I think is uh kind of rubbed them the wrong way. When Jalen was um still with the Jaguars. Of course he was photographed with

the Texans quarterback. I think that was during the season, come to think of it might have been during the back ins reissue all of that combined. So M you're correct on all of that. So Watson it is extremely serious apparently about not playing for the Texans again. How about that? Are you surprised? What what is is? Is

Jalen Ramsey breaking new's there? No? You know? So look, I mean I think everybody knew that Deshaun Watson was very serious, and uh, you're gonna find out how serious he is when he starts to put his paychecks at risk by not playing for the Houston Texans. And will it get to that point, I don't know. But if you want to find out how serious that Deshaun Watson is, and if the Texans truly want to find out how serious Deshaun Watson is, see if he will forego millions

of dollars to not play for you. That's the way you're gonna find out how serious he is. And uh, and I just I know this. I would have a hard time, you know, passing up fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, twenty million dollars or whatever he would consider losing this year if he doesn't play, and it might even be more than that. I don't know. You'll never get it back once you don't get it to begin with that. Hey, Uh, And I ask you Unique and Gockway if you if

you get that money back. And Gockway turned down a pretty sizeable deal by the Jaguars a couple of years ago. And uh, And he's not going to see that again, you know. And right now, I think that if he could, if he could go back in time and revise his personal history, I think he might take that deal. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but from a financial standpoint, he would have done much better by taking the Jaguars

deal at that time. An update on the Ben Roethlisberger situation in Pittsburgh Adam Schefter reporting today that Big Ben agreed to take a five million dollar pay cut in the final year of his contract this season and spreads his cash pay out into the two season lord the cap it by fifteen million, and then well, the capit was going to be forty one million in chains logs, so they needed a little space to get some things done, and he will be the quarterback of the Steelers this year.

So in other words, he took a pay cut and then they tacked how many years onto the contractor Lower's great question? Great question, because I mean that's that's I mean,

that's the only way to see that. That was the tricky part about Ben Roethlisberger that made at such a difficult situation for both Ben and the Pittsburgh Steelers, because you couldn't just say, oh, we're gonna get last Ben to take a pay cut, because even if he just took a pay cut, he's the amount of money that that was still going to be applied to the cap.

In other words, you needed to try to find a way to add years to the current contract that he had to be able to lessen the hit for this year. And essentially, what you're doing, unless Ben plays in the future for extremely cheap you're still continuing to kick the can down the road, so to speak, on dealing with the salary catfishue of Ben roethl Sburger. But here here's the one thing. I'm glad that he's back because Ben Roethlisberger is part of He is the Pittsburgh Steelers in

my mind, and that's an organization. I think it's gonna's gonna undergo a tremendous amount of change this offseason. It's gonna look a little different next year. But look, I mean when you watch football sometimes he just you know, certain guys are what football is about. I mean, Ben is the Pittsburgh Steelers. For many years, Tom Brady was the New England Patriots, and this year it was very different that he wasn't. Drew Brees is the New Orleans Saints.

Will he be back? I don't know, you know, so, I mean there's certain things that are very comforting and football to have your favorite player or one of your more likable players to stay with their team. So I'm glad that that happened. All Right, We've made it to the end of another edition of Jaguars Happy our Lugs. Have a fantastic weekend. We'll catch up again with you

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