Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 19

on a piece of paper. They'll be signed down the line. Who knows when they'll become official. Here's what's coming up on the show today, all the Jaguars talk. We'll hear from Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk. He's coming on at four thirty today. We'll touch on the Jaguars moves with Mike and then get some of the bigger picture stories from around the National Football League as well. A

lot going on there. Tom Brady on the move, Philip Rivers on the move, big name quarterbacks a big, big reason why this free agency period has been so newsworthy. We'll hear from Jeff log Aman at four forty five to break down all the Jaguars moves and what they mean moving forward, and Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osier joins us now over the phone lines, John, how are you? And it's um, it's kind of sad to

be self isolated from you, but good afternoon. Well people who have been wanting me to social distance for a long time. So uh, there's a lot of happy people out there amidst this obvious doing a serious note. Obviously a very difficult time, no doubt, um, but good to talk to you. It's been a couple of days and a lot of a lot of work going on behind the scenes to get this show on the air, get a lot of the Jaguars news out there on Jaguars

dot Com, including all of your riding everything that's going on. Um, I mean, let's start, I guess with a quarterback. Then when Nick Foles was traded to the Bears for the compensatory fourth round pick, he was the league's most expensive free agent last year, and a year later, now Johnny's gone well, and it just shows you with the quarterback position, JP teams and the Jaguars did this and a lot of teams do it. You invest a lot in the front end, and in some cases it's a high risk investment.

And you know, they went for it last year believing that they needed that piece to get them back to where they wanted to be, and uh, it just never worked. It never worked out, And maybe it could have worked out had they remained in that direction for one more year, but the circumstances, it just felt right to try to get equity for him. And I think it's the prizing people when they were able to get a fourth round pick. I think got credit to Dave Caldwell for getting that

fourth round pick. A month and a half ago I was writing, a lot of people were talking about would they need to give up something, uh to get rid of them. That never really made sense once you examined it, because they were only going to save three million on the cap doing that, so it kind of became obvious that they were gonna want to try to get something

for him and not give them away. And but a fourth round pick, I think that it shows you that there are still people in the league who believe, rightly or wrongly, that fowls can play and contribute. And it it felt like a real win for the Jaguars as a lot of the trades have so far still as you said, about eighteen million dollars of dead money on the salary cap, but a three million dollars savings of

what they would have paid for the quarterback position. So after this year, he's off the Jaguars books, and that's the best news after the last few years of quarterback situation around here, after the Blake Bartal situation and shipping him off and having to eat a lot of that salary and now the Nick Foles, things like, we're getting ever closer to just moving on, and that moving on right now as it stands as Gardner Minshew as the starting quarterback well, and I think the big thing obviously

two things Minshe being the starting quarterback. Secondly, and this sort of got lost as people started figuring out the Cat that captain be complex and on Twitter you have so many storylines you can cover. What you said about the goals being off the books for next year's Cat is critical. He was gonna be had they released them next year. It might have been like one five somewhere in that range. But a huge hit. And the salary cap well, that's now gone, so they're free of that

twenty million. Probably not going to be something the average fan thinks about too much this year, this time next year. Boy, that one five is gonna feel good for people making the decisions around here. Um, you know, it feels like and I don't know what's gonna happen in the draft. You know, you have to look at the possibility of maybe a quarterback in the top ten, but I would

put that at relatively low possibility. It feels like Minshew is going to get the opportunity to show that the signs that he showed being a franchise guy, he's gonna get at least one year, it looks like, to show that those signs are real. And uh, you know, I'm sure we'll talk to Loguman later in the show about or you will ye are those real? Is he the guy? It sure feels like he's gonna get the shot to show it. And uh, I feel like you sort of

earned that last year and we'll see how it goes. Yeah, you don't get the feeling, John, that they're gonna spend a bunch of money on like Jamis Winston or something to come in here. This age I'd be stocked with that. You know, the draft is a completely different animal than free agency. With this, they've invested huge money at the quarterback position and hadn't had it worked out two years in a row. Um to me at Jamis Winston, Uh,

and get the names out there right now. I feel very similar to Folds and Borders in terms of you're sort of holding your breath and taking a chance and seeing how it goes. If there was something out there there was a dead solid lock, maybe, but you know, they've had their experience with sort of flipping a coin the last two offseasons. I just can't rule out draft because they're sitting at number nine and they've got a

lot of draft equity. I don't know they have enough to go up and get the guys people would want. So that that's why I feel like it probably gets put on hold for a year the quarterback. But when it's the quarterback position and you and you're in the top ten, I think you have to at least study do we go get a guy. I'm not sure on that one yet. J. P. Shatrick with the Jaguars dot Com senior writer John os Or Jaguars Happy Hour continues, and we move along now to some other deals that

Jaguars had. I guess we'll not finalized, but agreed to terms with Klais Campbell traded to the Ravens for round pick. And then the one that is finalized is a j Boyer traded to the Broncos for fourth round pick. Let's start with the Klis deal, John. I mean, he's the Walter Peyton Man of the Year. For goodness sakes, He's an All Pro player, three time Pro bowler, and I put out a poll on Twitter because that's what when you want real results, that's what you do, John, and

that's what they are. I mean, there's there's no lying on that. Like sevent or more of the votes had him as the best free agent in Jaguars history, not including Jimmy Smith. I had three other guys on there,

but he was by far and clear the favorite. I think it's just because he's the most recent and he's fantastic of course for three years, um, but what he did to this organization the last three years, I don't know if you can find a better free agent guy to have around here and then to part ways with him like they did, it's not ideal, but it's the business part of this send the thing. Yeah, and you know, I think to be fair, I think you gotta throw

Keenan McCardell on that list. I mean yeah, I think Keenan is going to be on the wall at some point and was critical. I think he's one of the top five or six players in Jaguars history. So I'll go to the whole list here in a second job, go ahead, Yeah, I mean anyway, Um, regarding Klais, couldn't have given you more. I don't think you can have a better free agent signing in terms of immediate impact. And you know, it's it's the shame that the NFL right now is set up to where it's hard for

guys who are beloved finish their careers in places. But the other side of that is, if it was set up that way, he probably would have finished his career in Arizona because he was beloved there too. So um, you know, nobody around the jag Wars wanted to see Klais go. But here's the bottom line. Sixteen sacks in seventeen, ten sacts in eighteen and six stacks last year. You know he's not the same player that he was in two thousand seventeen. He's a good, good, good player, but

fifteen million dollars and that kind of cats. If you could get a fifth round draft choice for him, it's still a good trade. It hurts. I love covering Plais, I think everybody did of being around philis, But in terms of what you're trying to do right now and setting up this franchise for the future, you know, I just don't know how you could do any differently when you had a fifth round take available for it, and when you could get that money off the books. I mean,

it's uh, rebuild, repool, reload, whatever. But right now you've got to be smart with how your structure in this thing, and I just don't know that there was another way to go on him. The results of that scientific poll that I put out the other day, John Um there

were seven responses. Calais Campbell had seventy of the vote, Keenan hadent, paulp was Lesnie twelve for sentain Leon Searcy fo Yeah, and I think if you know, if Klaas had had his career in the nineties and Keenan had just had his career, uh, you know, but that's fine. I mean everybody gets that, and it's uh, you know, I don't wanna take anything away from Klaius. He deserves

his moment. I personally think he's a pride of the Jaguars guy at some point down the road, even though it's just three years that he played, only because of what he gave and without him, two thousand and seventeen doesn't happen. Uh. And if you can't put him in your pride, what are you doing? So? And I feel the same way about Keenan Frank. I think there's guys who who deserves be up there. But you know, Calais is a legacy player for this organization to make J. P.

Shatick was senior writer for Jaguars dot Com. John Osier Jaguars Happy Hour continues um from the home studio here. John Osier on the phone line with us, and we continue with the A. J. Boyer trade. His physical was finished before all the lockdowns and everything, so it is officially to the Bronc Coaster fourth round pick, and now the entire starting secondary from that run to the playoffs is no longer with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But it seemed

like John over the last couple of years. The overall playoff boy A dropped a bit. That number was really high, the dead number low. It felt like he was gonna go no matter what. Yeah, I was sort of surprised that they were able to get a fourth round pick for him. I mean, and again not to you know, you say bad things about boy but he hadn't been the kind of player in two thousand, eighteen and nineteen

as he wasn't at seventeen. The overall defense wasn't as good, which always hurts the cornerback when you don't have the pass rush in front of you. Um. Again, fourth round pick for full, fifth round pick for Clay, a fourth round pick for boy A. Uh. Somebody asked in the Ozone a few weeks back, how did David called, I'll get a fourth round pick for boy I said, Witchcraft. I mean it was. It was a great move by

Caldwell to get that. I thought he was gonna be released because I didn't know that he had any values on the open market. Uh. But again back to you know, the thread was Kolias and what these guys mean A j boy A, just like Kleis, should be remembered by Jaguars. Fans incredibly fondly, never anything wrong off the field, was was a great guy to be around, and as with Kolis, without him two thousand and seventeen doesn't happen. And that was as much as things has gone wrong the last

couple of years, that was a special year. So I hope he does well in Denver. But right now you're looking at a situation where I think they go draft a corner to replace boy a Um and I think they go draft a defensive tackle to address the middle. And I think, you know, as hard as it's gonna be for people to hear, I think you have a chance of being at least the same defense. It's not that or it's the two rookies that they have, and I think they'll go corner and defense attack in the

first round or early in the second. I think you can be very quickly improving on defense compared to last year because of what you've done at linebacker. And that's probably the next topic. John Oshan with us on Jaguars Happy Hour, and it is you've done these shows before. John is the next topic, and the Jaguars announcing that they have agreed to terms with Joe Schobert from the Cleveland Browns to be the middle linebacker. He has a Pro Bowl and under his belt back from the seen season.

That means and probably more notably, that Myles Jack is moving to the weak side of position he has not played, at least to my knowledge, in college or the pros. Certainly the pros um that's huge news for this defense. One of the guys remaining is moving to get another linebacker position. And as Doug Moron was saying earlier today to the Jaguars Dot Com crue Ashlan Sullivan, that, um, you know, it gives them a little flexibility at that back of position and Miles can move around if needed.

But it sounds like Miles is moving to the week side John, Yeah, and by something what Doug said this morning, you think that's his is the most natural position, which it started to feel that way last couple of years. But let's remember this mild. You know, we got a lot of criticism last year, and I'm not sure all was warranted. That's another topic. I think he would have been playing week side a long time ago, and I've had people question me in the ozone, well, why in

the world didn't they do this already? Well, for three years. Helpings is over there, So I'm not sure that that was necessarily a negligent moved by the coaching stack. You had a guy who's playing at a high level, and you're trying to get your best guys on the field. I'm not so sure that he wouldn't have done it last year, except it Kelvin surprised everybody very late in

the process. The draft had already taken place, free agency had already taken place, so you try to go, you know, and then he retired or least football would ever happen. So I think this the situation where now it makes sense to get Miles over the week side. I don't know that you wanted to do it last year because all of a sudden, you're shaking everything up. You're not sure what's going on, so Miles jack over the middle.

I don't know that you necessarily want to say that it's only because of Miles, because Schobert's a good player, good middle linebacker and natural medal linebacker. As Doug said a couple of times when Ashlal was talking to him and when I talked to him later, this is the situation where you improved two positions with one signing uh, the jag Wars clearly needed to do that with their defense. He thinks this makes the run defense a lot better.

I would think there'll be a major acquisition in the draft, had one more pizza that run defense. But to me, if you look at their season last year, the inability to stop the run once Darius went out was the defining characteristics of the season, beyond all the offensive troubles, beyond anything else, beyond even Jalen Ramsey leaving. They couldn't stop the run. When you can't do that, you can't win because it's all teams due to you is run

when they know you can't stop it. If these acquisitions make you better against the run, it makes them more competitive no matter what else they've lost. It was awful last year and that stretch especially that you know, um three quarters part of the season there when they just couldn't They were giving up two hundred yard games every time out. You can't compete. You can't compete because it's all people do to you could run. You're not gonna do anything else because it's low risk that stop. Then

you can start talking about the other position. They feel like they're making moves toward that. All right, Um, dark ques Denard from the Bengals cornerback, he'll compete it outside corner and defensive lineman Rodney Gunter from the Cardinals sounds like he's got some big end ability and three technique they can move around. Almost the Calais Campbell type position. Type role there for Rodney Gunter. But you know, Dennard may not be the answer outside, but he's going to

compete to be the answer outside. And the rest, of course, the off season remains with a draft. As you mentioned earlier, they could be drafting a cornerback pretty high here. Yeah, And I think both of those positions, or both of those acquisitions feel like the same kind of thing in different positions, Meaning it's not like offensive line where you're gonna line up five guys and hope they all play

all the plays during the season. A defensive line and in the secondary you need more than just your starters. You need four or five guys in each spot because they're on the field a lot. So you know, I kind of think Dennard probably compete with a rookie who gets drafted in the top forty, So will he be starting? I don't know, but I think he'll be on the field a lot. I certainly think that uh Gunter is

going to be on the field a lot. You've got to have seven eight guys on the defensive lines who you believe in, who can play, and so he clearly is going to be a big factor. Does he start or will? They have a defensive tackle drafted starting at Tavin Bryan with then Ard and Abrew Jones. Even having a a did not mean a gut your level player next to Avery makes you feel better about that rotation than you felt the dandel last year. So they need guys who can line up. They need guys to allow

them not to reach in the draft. Both of these guys put that to me. Final thought here, John, Um, it's a scary thought about this defense. Right, that's a lot of new faces, A lot of familiar names and faces from the last three years or so are no longer around. Marcel Darius his contract right out. They didn't take the option on him. Calais traded, boy a trading. I mean, there's only a handful of guys left that people really know around here from two or three years ago. Um,

what what can I guess? What can we expect can we expect a mid level high level defense next year? You know, it's uh, it's hard to say because the yawn thing you get to play out Unique and got way. Uh. It feels like Josh Allen and Miles Jack the you know. I mean, those guys need to step up. But if you've got those two guys who are first round, elite level talent, You've paid Schobert like that, So that feels right.

If you get Unique on the field and then you add a rookie defensive tackle and rookie cornerback, and I don't know it's what they'll do, but if they do that, we all of a sudden, you've got a lot of talent there. Uh. Josh Allen to me feels like a guy I had my talking to this morning about leadership, because the leadership was an issue in two thousand thirteen TAPS fourteen when they sued so young. They're skewing young again, so they need guys who are leaders. I've been around,

you know, the NFL for twenty five years. Josh Allen is as much in his in his first year a leader guy guys can look to as I've been around, maybe Bob Standards when I covered the Colts came in and was immediately very mature. A guy who can look to Josh reminds me of that level of readiness for that role. He's gonna need to play because they don't have Coyas anymore, they don't have boy A, they need young leaders. I think it's gonna be Josh Allen's rowing

need to play. Give him a follow at John osher O E H. S. E R on Twitter. Senior writer Jaguars dot Com John Osier, I will continue to keep my distance from you. John Well, it's about time, j

Uh stay safe and everybody else as well. John os you're joining us, a senior writer Jaguars dot Com pointed to come at the bottom of the hour, it's Mike Fourio of Pro Football Talk, and then a little later, around four forty five or so, Jeff Logman Jaguars analysts will break down the Jaguars agreed to terms players and some of the trades that have been agreed to as well. That's all coming up in just a little bit when

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know what he thinks about it. And I made the comment earlier this week on on Twitter that this might be the most uh, at least as I remember that, the craziest free agency build up that we can remember. And the big reason why is all the quarterback names involved. The Goat is involved, Tom Brady. Apparently he's getting a physical today in New York City. Uh, Philip rivers pretty close to the Goat without the championship rings. He's got the yard edge and the numbers to prove that well.

He's on the move in the a f C South, coming to Indianapolis. Those are just a couple of the names that are a big piece of the reason why today that the rams of cut Todd Durley, who just a few years ago was um the biggest name. He was a top top ten draft pick, is a running back not that long ago. They avoided having to pay him an additional ten and a half million this year by cutting him. Today in the ANFC South, arguably the best receiver in football is shipped off to the Cardinals.

DeAndre Hopkins is gone, and then reports of friction between him and head coach GM Football's are Bill O'Brien in Houston, Hopkins and a fourth round pick from Houston to Arizona for running back David Johnson, second round pick and fourth

round pick. But the big news there is the friction between him and O'Brien and uh, a little bit of he said, she said down there with the conversations you saw Michael Irvin earlier this week makes some comments of the reason why and who knows the real side of the story here, but either way, it's not a great look at all for the Houston Texans with all of that happening, with the clowney thing that happened last year, the trade of him to get out of there, and

now trading their best offensive player. You could argue Watson is that as well, but DeAndre Hopkins is a three consecutive time All Pro first team All Pro and the last person to do that three straight times, to get a first team All Pro in three straight season and then not go back to his team next year Jim Brown when he retired from the Cleveland Browns. Um that is that tells you a whole lot about what's going

on in Houston right now. And the backlash and the aftermath of that trade is something to watch if you follow anybody involved with the Houston Texans in terms of the media down there in Houston. Um, the day after that trade, the day of the trade, Uh, they had a lot to talk about in Houston. Let's say the Colts are signing Philip Rivers one year, twenty five million

dollar deal. The were some question marks about that position after they traded their first round pick this year for defensive end of Forest Buckner, So there was a little question mark they made that move, which is a great move by the way, good player on the defensive line. Oh well, they were gonna draft a quarterback with their first round pick. So they ended up getting Philip Rivers a one year, twenty five million dollar deal to come

to Indianapolis. The Titans have been relatively quiet compared to those two teams, the Colts and the Texans. Titans, of course, you got that four year deal for Ryan Tannehill. They franchise tagged Derrick Henry, but Jarale Casey is no longer in the division. The defensive tackle who has wrecked Jaguars game plans over the years from time to time shipped to the Denver Broncos. So the Broncos got boy A, They've got Casey. Now they're adding to that defense. There,

Casey no longer in the a f C South. Plenty ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour, Mike Florio Pro Pro Football Talk is right around the corner, will breakdown some of the big league news in free agency and get his laws and with the Jaguars have done so far. And then Jeff Logman at about four forty five with a little further analysis of the new additions to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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little bit later to break down the Jaguars editions. Now on the phone line, it's Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, and Mike, this is the the strangest of weeks in our one of our strangest weeks in our country's history, not not much less the sports world. But you look online just now, moments ago you put up on Pro Football Talk that Sean Payton has tested positive for COVID nineteen.

This is now officially touched the NFL community. I don't remember anybody else, at least publicly testing positive in the NFL yet, Mike, how are you. I'm doing well, And yeah, he's the first one to test positive. And we continue to be in that weird phase of this where we assume a lot more people have it than we know about, and they're typically only testing people who have symptoms or who know they have been exposed to someone who's tested positive.

So I don't know if coach Payton has any symptoms. He says he came forward just to encourage people to take the situation seriously, as plenty of people are. But there's still plenty of people out there who just don't get it, they don't understand it, they don't want to understand it, or they understand it, and they still choose to live their lives at the way they want to. It's pretty clear, Mike, that there's never really been a week or a month ahead, or a two or three

months ahead in sports like we have right now. I don't remember anything like this in my life. Maybe nine eleven that was a week, a week and a half of games not playing or anything happening. World War two, maybe you know, but that's well before our lifetimes. World War two created some strange outcomes for the National Football League,

as you would expect. I don't know if the league was ever shut down, but at one point the Steelers and the Eagles were combined into one team because so many NFL age players were off fighting the war, either in the European theater or the Pacific theater. And I agree with you. Look, the difference here is most of the situations that we've lived through have been discreete immediate moments that subside and we pick up the pieces and

we figure out a way to move forward. This is some thing where as I've said this week several times, we're standing at the bottom of a mountain. We're looking straight up and we have no idea where the top of it is, and we just start climbing and it changes everything. It's going to wipe out. I believe the entire offseason program for the NFL is going to create a different reality for the draft. The training camp openings

may be delayed. Who knows how many different impacts it's going to have because of the reality that we need to remain in a situation where the spread is minimized to protect the people who are the most vulnerable from dying from You know, in every TV show or movie or book that we've ever come across regarding a pandemic like this or some sort of a virus that overtakes the population, there's never one where so many people are perfectly fine and they're walking around with it. That's what's

weird about Usually it's the exception. It's the Will Smith and I am legend who doesn't get affected by the virus. It's not the vast majority of people are fine, which causes some of the vast majority to act like everything is fine while a significant percentage of the population is at risk of dying from it. Mike Florio Pro Football Talk joining us that said, was the NFL right to continue with the free agency starting on Wednesday and the negotiation period leading up to that, or should it be

should it have been delayed as well? I personally believed it should have been delayed now. I thought things were going to get a lot worse this week than they did as of Monday morning. I believe that by Wednesday, at four pm Eastern, when the new league year began, there was a very good chance that there was going to be a national quarantine put in place, which would have made it impossible for anyone to finalize transactions and just would have slammed the brakes on everything. In hindsight,

I think it worked out for the NFL. I know that there's some frustration out there on the part of teams that believe some of the rules the NFL put in place did not reflect a practical understanding of what the needs of the teams are, and there's been some relaxation of some of the some of the provisions that it really didn't make a whole lot of sense, like not announcing any deals until the physicals can be accomplished, because getting the physicals done has been the most cumbersome

part of this, because players can't come to the facility and the doctors can't go to the players. But yeah, I I I thought they should have waited. But at the same time, the business needed to get done at some point, and it did provide several days of a diversion and a distraction from people who are coming to grips with the fact that they're going to be inside for a while. Although I had a good friend asked me the other day, not connected to the NFL world,

should they really have done this? Because it is odd when people are trying to figure out where their money is going to come from over the next couple of months to read about all of these guys signing multimillion dollar contracts. And that was one of the concerns I had the optics. But the other concern was just more pragmatic. When is the curtain coming down on a national quarantine and if you've already started this process, It's going to

be very difficult to stop it. Mike Florio with us at Pro Football Talk on Twitter now that said, since they kept it going, the negotiation period and the free agency opening of the league year and all that, I don't remember a period of the last three or four days as hectic as this. And the big reason why, at least for me, Mike, is the quarterback names involved, starting with the goat, Tom Brady. You throw those quarterback names around in a free agency cycle, it doesn't get

much bigger than that. Yeah, it was going to be, before the world turned upside down, one of the most compelling free agency periods of all time, and it still was. It just wasn't as compelling as it could have been because of everything that occurred, obviously the Tom Brady factor, the anticipate nation of who was actually going to get in on that, And my understanding is he had a set of terms that he communicated to the Buccaneers, the Chargers,

and possibly of the teams. At the end of the day, the Buccaneers and the Charges are the ones who said we're in, and he chose the Buccaneers over the Chargers. But that was just part of this game of musical chairs where we saw just strange developments. Philip Rivers to the Colts, Teddy Bridgewater to the Panthers, Cam Newton available

to go wherever. The Nick Foles trade obviously something that we thought was a possibility if someone was going to step up and take that contract without expecting Jacksonville to pay any of it. So, you know, the music has slowed down. The Patriots don't have anyone they've acquired other than the guy they have in Jared Stidham, who could very well take over. Andy Dalton still available in trade from the Bengals, Cam Newton still available, Jamis Winston looking

for a job. And you know, for a while, I wasn't sure whether it would be more teams than there were quarterbacks, and more quarterbacks than there were teams. But it's clear right now that there are more quarterbacks floating around than there are starting jobs in the NFL. Mike,

it happens quick. For the Jaguars just a few years ago, a couple of years ago, they're in the a s C Championship Game, and I think currently there are three defensive players that started in that game in New England that are still on the roster, including Unique and Gokway who's tagged. We know the stories around him right now. It happens quick in the NFL, and the rebuild is on here in Jacksonville. Yeah, And I don't know that

I would call it a rebuild per se. I think these are things that the team needs to do to have the cap space necessary to go with the nucleus of young talent that they believe in. I'm not stunned by any of the moves that have been made, and I don't look at it and say it's tanking. Tanking is when you start tearing it down during the season.

This is a deliberate attempt to make the team better, to have cap space available to operate, to choose Gardner Minshew as the starting quarterback and give him a chance to move forward as the guy he's the possible Tom Brady, the sixth round pick that fell into their laps that ended up getting thrust into action, not in his second season like Brady, but week one of his rookie year. And he's passed all the tests, and he's an exciting player, and he he stimulates the fan base, and that's what

you're looking for. And yeah, you want to also win. But I don't look at this because I've seen so many people in the meteor like every every move that gets made while they're tanking, while they're tanking, while they're tanking. No they're not. And we'll see if this is a deliberate process that ultimately results in the team being better than it was last year. Mike, great stuff, Thank you for the for joining us on such short notice, and stay safe there in West Virginia. We're all right, sure,

thank you. Talking to Mike Floria Pro Football Talk. Always a good visit with him at Pro Football Talk on Twitter. Busy times around the National Football League. The Tom Brady stuff could be coming down at any moment. Who knows. Apparently the physical happening today in New York reportedly, and a lot happened. Yeah, this has been a strange obviously

to everyone involved here. It has been a strange week, but certainly inside the National Football League and has been one of the most notable free agent openings that in in recent memory, certainly if not in league history, with all the quarterback names and everyone involved here. Back in a moment, we'll hear from Jeff Lagaman. We'll get back into the Jaguars auditions and see what Logs has to say about the changes, the moves, the trades for the

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Swindell moving from April to October as well. All the details at Daily's Place dot com. Let's go back to the phone lines and welcome in our co host for this show, Jeff Logman, Jaguars analyst. What's up, Bud? How are you a j P? Good to talk to you, and Uh. In this world of self isolation, I guess we may be doing a little bit of this. I think this might be the lay of the land for a little while. It seems like logs, as unfortunate as it is, we're gonna make it work, though, Yeah, well

we'll make it work. Will make it work. But boy, it hasn't slowed down the news out of the NFL. And I was talking to a couple of people that are just fans of the National Football League and they appreciate the distraction and that with today's day and age, I guess with all the news that comes out that's

just so depressing. I guess that they said, it's kind of nice there's no sports going on, but at least there's news in the National Football League where fans can still follow their teams and UH, and still kind of I guess have a rooting interest, so to speak, even though it's not a game at least it's a it's a rooting interest in their team. It is the start

of the league here. It is always hectic, but just talking to Florio a moment ago from Pro Football Talk logs, and it's, uh, this might be one of the most notable openings of a league year that we remember outside of the coronavirus and COVID nineteen and all that. Just the names involved here, I mean, Tom Brady is involved, Philip Rivers going to the Colts. You've got um their trading to the wide receiver from Houston to Arizona. I mean, that's it's a lot of moving parts for the league

right now. Well, I mean, and I'm heck DeAndre Hopkins, who you're talking about going to the Cardinals, and then most people criticize the Texans for what they got in return, you know, because the Jaguars are are no strangers to that category either. I mean Calais Campbell, a j Boyer, both those guys traded and and a fan favorite in

Clay's Campbell. So it's been a it's been a lot of news and Tom Brady obviously is the headline of all of that, and it's still I don't think it's been announced that the deal is completed yet, but it's gonna be a lot different this year. I mean, nobody ever expected to see Tom Brady in a different uniform, certainly not a Tampa Bay Buccaneers uniform. But then again, nobody expected to see Joe Namath in a different uniform or whoever you want to talk about to finish their

career elsewhere. Nick Foles will go to a different uniform. He's gonna wear Chicago Bears uniform next year compensatory fourth round pick. He was the league's most expensive free agent lad year. Well, I think I think it goes well. I mean, no doubt JP a most expensive free agent last year, but I think it goes to show that the Jaguars made a mistake. But at the same token, when you make a mistake, it's worse if you just keep admitting that you made a mistake and you don't

address it. And so I give Dave called Well a lot of credit and Doug Moron a lot of credit for addressing the mistake of signing Nick Foles last year. But most importantly getting another draft pick. Who would have thought that you could have gotten a draft pick for

Nick Foles with that expensive contract. I mean, I just think that that's kind of crazy, especially when you're talking about a very quarterback rich market where you couldn't have your choice of other quarterbacks and you still garnered something for Nick Foles when he has a lot of guaranteed money left. I mean, kudos to Dave called Yeah, and he's off the books after the start next year. UM

eighteen point seven five of dead money this year. That's a three million dollar savings and salary cap this year, and then he's off the books altogether. So great. You can debate, and a lot of people criticize Doug Brown. A lot of people criticized Dave called well, but look, I'm gonna tell you this. If I ever need to sell something, I'm calling Caldwell. I'm gonna have him sell my house. If I'm gonna get a new car, I'm gonna have him sell my whole car, because he's uh,

he's getting he's getting a good price. Dave, do you have your real estate license? I'm just asking for a friend. Jeff Lockman, this Jaguars analyst that joined us on the phone line on Jaguars Happy Hour. So the Jaguars agree to terms with linebacker Joe Schobert from the Cleveland Browns and he will be the middle linebacker. Miles Jack is moving outside. According to Doug Morone, what do you make

of that deal, he's moving to the weak sidelogs. Well, I don't don't think anybody's surprises with the move of Miles Jack on the week's side, because look, the last two years shown that it took. It just wasn't working at a high level for Miles Jack at the mic position. And the reality is Joe Schoberg is a good football player. He's a natural. Mike Greg Williams, who was the defensive coordinator and then for a short period of time the interim head coach with the Cleveland Browns, I mean that

guy knows football. And Greg Williams is not one to banny about with a lot of compliments with football players that he's coached, but he absolutely loves Joe Schoberg and can never say enough good things about him. So I think it's a it's a tremendous acquisition. Acquisition. I think it does a couple of things which allows you to get a good football player, good mittal linebacker, but then also to move Miles Jack to the week's side position,

which the week's hide position. You know, we all saw for many years Tellvin Smith played it, played it at a pretty high level, and it's a speed position, and and Miles Jack has beat And I think the challenge for Miles Jack is to take his next step and being a pro. I thought Miles Jack last year, somewhat the year before, played not in the greatest of shape

and not at the greatest of weight. And I think he needs to dedicate himself and it's going to be a challenging year to do that because who knows if you're going to have the organized team activities or team workouts to be able to do that type of thing in that environment. So he's got to take the challenge upon himself and get himself in the best shape possible to be able to accept the challenge of moving to

the week side linebacker. Let me ask you this, Lugs, and you may not have the answer, but I'm sure you have an opinion. If the Telvin Smith news had come out earlier in the off season that he was stepping away from football or whatever, the real story is he's not around. If that happened in January right after the season, would Miles have moved to the week side last year? Too close? Was it too close to the offseason program in the season. I think, I think, I think,

I think it would have been considered, you know. But but I also think that they also wanted to see if he could take that next step at the MIC position, because you can't expect the guy to step in first year replacing Paulpa's Lesnie and to be able to be better than Paulpa's Lesnie. I mean, that's that's just unrealistic,

you know. So I think it wanted to give him a chance at that position, regardless of, uh, the issue with Kelvin Smith or Kelvin Smith playing or not playing, you know, to give him an opportunity to take that next step, and and they obviously didn't take it. So now it's going to go to where he's really I think, moving to his natural position. And uh, it also allows him to not worry about trying to call the defense

even though he's gonna be capable of that. And then also a third down look of the reality it doesn't change on third down, so and I think also what that does now it allows your other line actors to develop at their pace. You know, last year Ed Williams out there way too early, and you're talking about a collegiate wow safety that was moved to linebacker, and you're expecting him to come in and be a starting week side linebacker right out of the gate. I think that

was an unrealistic expectation. Now you can allow him to just develop on his own time frame and be of course special teamer. And look, if if he earns playtime on defense, then so be it. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. Jeff lockam with us. But you said the key from Miles moving to the weeks side, He's gotta be able to run. He's got to have that speedback right well, all the all the linebackers in the Jaguar system.

I mean that's when the coaches talked to the scouting department about what they need a linebacker, they tell him they got to have speed. And because you're talking about linebackers that have to run with a deep over and we're talking about keeping pace with a wide receiver. You know, so pause Lesnie was was fast enough, but if he was a stepper too slower, he wouldn't have been able to play in the Jaguars defense. I mean that's the type of speed that it's required to play in the

Jaguars defense. Find a couple of minutes your logs with you. The other additions for the Jacksonville Jaguars da Quiz denard coming in cornerback from the Bengals, he'll compete it outside corner. And Rodney Gunter from the Cardinals. I can play the big end and three technique to move them around up front and competeing and working that depth up front. Two other editions for the Jags your logs. Yeah, I don't know much about Gunner. I mean, who knows about anybody

to place for the Cardinals. I mean, I hate to say that, but that's the reality because the Cardinals haven't been very good. And uh so I've got a when I get a chance or when they allow people to come into the stadium, I'm gonna have to watch some some film on him to get a take. But denard Is is a good football player and he's gonna be a starter right away. And he's a physical corner that's not a play afraid to play man. So I think he's a nice addition. I don't know what the cost is.

I haven't seen the numbers on either one of the two guys, but obviously in the second tier market, not the you know, the high high price guy, so you know they should be affordable type players. Logs, thank you for the time today. Always gonna talk to you. We'll try us again next week in this little different set up. But stay safe, you and the family stay safe this week, will you? Thank thank you, JP? And uh it's gonna be a different world right at the minshew Mania full

speed ahead. I guess it sounds like it is, Logs. We'll talk to you next week, okay, JP, see buddy Jeff Log. Jaguars analysts joining us settle to it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thanks to John Oshan, senior writer Jaguars dot Com, Mike Florio for football talk at Jeff Log. But I'm JP shattered. We'll talk to you next week. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.