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to a couple of weeks for a trip. We'll hear from him in studio coming up. See what he has to say about the off season so far, and what's what he thinks about this upcoming training camp in a few weeks, and what his off season will be like. We're review the off season program. Doug Peterson, all the assistant coaches spoke today. We've got plenty to dissect before we go around the National Football League as well. Jeff Logerman, welcome back. It's nice to see you. Yeah, it's good

to be saying. When's the mini camp next week? I was supposed to be Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and now there's going to be about thirty players. Um, most of the veterans said uh, Doug said goodbye. And I was actually talking to a couple of assistant coaches up there, guys that had played a game, and I was like, so you're jealous, and they're like, oh. Ever, to a man, are like, gosh, I wish it was like this when

I was playing. Yeah, I mean that's but I mean that seems to be I don't want to say it's the kind of standard operating procedure. But more and more teams, because of the valuable, valuable usage of the O t a S have gone to some teams are just canceling mini camp. They feel like that they're getting everything done that they need to get done in the O t A S and that an additional mini camp is not

that beneficial to them. But I will say this, it's not like the entire team is getting all the ones that they feel like, I need to get the work. The rookies and certain veteran players maybe that haven't picked up some things. They're gonna stay here and work and that's the way it should be. Yeah, And that's all right. So it's still Monday's used no mini camp. I'm sure there were a lot of a lot of rubber left on the road out there, of cars rolling out of

here today, Yeah there was. There was a few guys rolling out of here. But I look, I'm a big believer in it. I think a mini camper and O T A is there really much of a difference. There's really not. I mean an O T A day is the same thing as a mini camp day. So essentially all you're doing is shorting the number of O T A days in reality three days, which is what the

mini camp would have consisted of. So I'm I'm a big fan of trying to preserve the body and not wearing it out too much, because look, the reality is, you could only do so much in no pads there there really is. There's really only so much that you like for offensive and defensive lineman. I mean, what, what's the how much benefit of as long as you've got the terminology in the system down and responsibilities down, how much benefit do you actually gain by having three more

non padded practices. I think sometimes it can be a little bit, uh kind of like groundhog Day, you know, yeah, because it's a classic. And sometimes I think you can develop bad habits sometimes when you're a contact physical player and you're not having contact practices because you're trying to make sure I don't want to hurt anybody. My favorite line from that movie, it's groundhog Day again. Just like I don't know why, but yes, it can feel that

way at times. Let's hear from Doug Peterson, head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, spoke today and he's seen a lot of growth out of this football team in the

off season. You know, it's one of the key message points, you know, back April eleventh when when I started with this group and and just you know, we talked about the healing process, right and trust and and all this stuff, and and you know, I've seen this team grow from April eleventh to to today and how they've come together and good, good group of leaders on this football team and how they've handled things, and UM's it's just the

right time. He said that something similar to that a lot this offseason, having to regain the trust and get players to believe in it again and believe in the staff. And you know, obviously you do things like this and get guys out of meetings a little bit early and and everybody still gets to work done. You have to pull a little bit out of the players too. You have to see some of that come out on the

practice field, from the classroom to the practice field. And he said earlier this offseason he's seen a lot of that as well. So it's a given take players and coaches is and it feels like a good vibe right now. And I think the other thing that he said it

was important. He talked about how this group was hard working and and that's important and and so I think the two things that we're talking about here trust Okay, regaining the trust or just gaining trust however you want to term it, and then hard work are two of the most critical things that there is. And UH is regaining the trust a result of what happened last year that was, you know, the failure of the franchise with

Urban Meyer. You know, maybe it is, but I think that when you're when you have a new staff and then you start to work with players and when you show them that you can help them, that's the way that you gain trust and you continue to you still have to continue to earn that trust okay, as a as a coach, it's not something that you just do one time and then you're like, hey, look I'm good to go. I'm I got the trust for the entire season.

It's a continual process that you have to continue to give because if something happens and all it takes is one time. If you mess up and somehow you lose the trust, no matter of the twenty great deeds you've done now, it takes a little bit of time to build that trust back up again. And so trust is critical.

Trust is everything, especially when with a with a coach player relationship, and uh, the most important thing that the coach can offer a player is the ability to improve that player, to improve that player's worth, to make him a better player, and to make him more functional for a football team. So I like Doug's approach. I think

Doug is very uh what's the word. Um. He's in the moment with his team, and I think that's a good thing to be because if he felt that this team wasn't ready, he's not doing this regardless of where his team is at, just regain trust. He's doing this because he feels like his team is at where it needs to be and that that they deserve this, and then Okay, this is gonna help make our team better. It's funny. We were sitting up there today talking to

Bob Sutton, longtime defensive coach in the NFL. College before that, long time in college. Yeah, his first year is a grad assist. It was nineteen seventy two at Michigan. He's been in the league since two thousand. I was five years old. By the way, when he was a grad assistant, I was minus nine years old minus. How about that been a while. But we were talking to him something similar like this. You know, there's so many coaches that played that are on this staff. How does that help?

And his answer was similar to what you just said. You know, that only goes so far. You've got to help those players become the best player they can be. And it feels like the staffs on a good at least at a good starting point there. I think. I think when you have a coach that's played the game, I think first of all, it allows it allows to to have the relationship to be also kind of have

shared experiences. So so, in other words, an experience that a coach goes through maybe pertinent to an experience that a player is going through. Maybe the coach is a little bit more understanding of maybe a decision of player made or the way he played a certain play because he played a game also, and and also from the

standpoint of the player receiving that information. I know that when when I was a player in the league and talked to coaches and learned of what that coach did as a player, I think first of all, it made you respect that person initially, but then after that initial Okay, he played the game, he knows where I'm I'm at.

Now you also have to give me the information. And when I was there for a part of that conversation that you have with with Bob Sutton, and and I think Bob hit it right on the on the nail when he said that you have to continue to show

them that you can help them. So, yes, a coach having played the game helps, but at the end of the day, if the message from a guy who didn't play the game continues to make the player better and it's more beneficial to the player, that coach will be better for the player, not a coach just because he played the game. But but I think that experience of coaches having played the game helped them to relate to the players in a better way, and it also allows

them to know, hey, I've been there before. What did I want as a player? I wanted somebody who could help me about be a better player, And so they understand what they need to be in that relationship. Guys like Mike McCoy, uh, Chris Jackson, Richard and Ghoulo on the offensive side than on defense might call well the d C played in the league, Brentson Buckner um to

Shay Townsend. It will hear from many of those guys coming up tomorrow on the Jaguars Broadcast week Interview podcast who We're gonna run a lot of that audio we did here from Press Taylor today as well. The Jaguars offensive coordinator on how far along they've come with the offense. I think we got a lot done, We got a lot put in, a lot installed. We got the chance to teach really the foundation of what we want to do as an offense and then teach a lot of technique.

You know, we're asking guys to do things a certain way. Whether they've done that, whether they haven't, we don't know. But here's how we envision it being done. Here's what we'd like, go out do it now, let's talk about it, let's coach it. So I think from that standpoint, we

got a lot done. Um. And when we were able to kind of sell that vision to the guys of what we wanted to look like, they were able to go out there, have success doing it, work through some things, um, and then we all kind of bounce ideas off one another moving forward. You know, we'd like it done this way. A guy says, hey, I've done it this way, I had success, can do it, can verbalize it, can show you video evidence, things like that, and so there's been a lot of good back and forth with the guys

building this thing. Doug Peterson will call plays on game day, of course, he said that already in this offseason. But Press Taylor is charged with making all this work together and the different routes that Christian Kirk has to learn, and he's gonna learn them all. They want to move these pieces around, and it's up to Press Taylor to to make sure his offensive players can handle that. Uh he he impresses me. Press Taylor does. And from the standpoint of if you look at the offensive side of

the ball. From a coaching standpoint, there's a lot of big names. I mean big names that could be intimidating for a for a young offensive coordinator. Mike McCoy, Doug Peterson, Uh, Joe Uh, Jim, Bob Coot. I mean, you got all these guys that yeah, but I mean you've got these guys who have been either a head coach at the National Football League level or that they've been accomplished offensive plate callers and offensive coordinators in the National Football League.

So and here's a young guy that is the named offensive coordinator, and I think that's a that's a that's a tough position to be in because you're the young guy, okay, and you have all this experience, But so I think you have to have a quiet calm of confidence to be able to handle the room. And it seems like he really does have that calm and confidence in him.

And and the other thing that I think is pretty unique, And if you listened, and not from today, but if you if you listen to what Trevor Lawrence said the other day. He was asked about all of the information that he can get from all of these coaches. He talks specifically about how when the message gets to him it's singular, which remember I talked a couple of weeks ago about having too many cooks in the kitchen can be a bad thing. You know what, Loves You're leading

us right into Trevor Lawrence from earlier this week. Here's what the quarterback had to say. With all those cooks in the kitchen, it's been really smooth. I think everybody's on the same page, which is which is good. I think the way they built the staff is everyone has a similar you know, not not everyone's gonna think the same obviously, you need that diversity to be able to put you in the best position to win. But everyone's in the same page, and you can tell it's it's

very seamless. And also too, it's when people talk, it's not everyone trying to say their opinion, you know. It's kind of people pick and choose, and I think they do a job of communicating beforehand, so when we get into meetings, they kind of know exactly what they're all thinking and they're on the same page. I love hearing that obviously one voice, singular message. What you gotta have, that's it. That's what I hope they would tell us

otherwise right now. Oh, it's awful, but you know it makes sense when it comes out of Trevor's mouth like that. Uh that that's certainly believable and it sounds like everybody's on the same page. And and the other thing too.

From talking to Mike McCoy today and listening to him talk to some other people's and other people that were involved in the media skirmish today, and he talked extensively about, you know, looking from Afar, about the confidence that he has in his quarterback because of how he watched him and how he handled everything last year, how he kept

positive and the whole situation. So Mike McCoy has a lot of respect for for Trevor Lawrence and and it's good to hear Trevor Lawrence talk in the terms of okay,

we we have a Jaguars language. It's good to have differences of opinion because I think that's one way that you can actually become better as the staff is that you have different ideas and and you have people that feel very strongly about their ideas and you can you know, verbally spar and argue and then you know, at the end of the day, you know, you make the best

decision for the football team. And you go back to some of the great coaching staffs that have been around the National Football League, some of them actually went to fist costs over making decisions. Remember the Baltimore Ravens of two thousand. I mean, I do you remember the stories that they had on their staff. They had From what I understand, they had multiple skirmishes that involved fists and there was a knuckle junction visits you. You mentioned media skirmish.

I haven't seen a good media skirmish in a while. Who would you take in a media skirmish? Who you calling out right now in the media to have a skirmish with? Like for me to take it right now in the media and the Jaguars media for a skirmish? You and who me versus somebo? Do you or take on my side? No? No No, no, no against you? You're going against this person? Um you're calling out right now? I don't know. Skirmish. I'll take u j B. I'll take you on. I know you won't know you won't

pick again. That wouldn't be a fair fight, though I would dominate. Hey, let's come back in a moment. I want to take somebody on that that could that could stand a couple of rounds with me. But Selly, Mike de Rocco can hang in there. He's got a center in there. Yeah, he's you know, be like a Mike Tyson. Yeah, he's feisty that guy. Now. But Selly, I just kicked him in the hip. He fall. He'd be like, you know, like a house of what do they call that? A

house of cards? Cards? No, and remember the three little picks. Okay, so Selly would have the house made of sticks, blow it down, kick him in a hip. He's done. It is time for us to take a time out. Um, we're gonna kick you off the set here in a second, please do. And Josh Ellen's gonna jump in Jaguars outside linebacker defensive end. We'll hear from him coming up a little later, we'll get into the defense. We'll hear from Mike Caldwell, the defensive coordinator who spoke today for the

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Tickets and information at Daily's Place dot com. Josh Allen, Jaguar's outside linebacker with us now was the last concert you went to the daily Splace? Josh close to the microphone for us. The last concert was my rookie year and we saw my very first concert. It was a Chris Barrown concert and my wife took you know, she took me their first concert ever. Man, I thought it was the best thing ever, you know what I mean. I felt like the intermission music was better than like

anything else I was. I was in there jam and so, uh, you know, we're kind of looking forward to, you know, with the COVID for the last two years, as hard as been getting out and now that you know that's all over, kids again, little older, you know what I mean, I think we can start kind of start moving and doing our own little thing. And that's so we're gonna try to experience a little bit more. How old are

the kids who four two and nine months? I'm saying they're getting older, They are getting older because that's my son is getting tune out. My oldest is good. Uh, but in a two year old, he had to get over that not a baby no more phase and we're kind of getting out of that. And now he's kind of be able to do things and talk and communicate back and forth. So it's kind of making a little easier than my daughter. She's just little princess. Do you ever sleep sleep good? You do? I sleep real good?

You know, it depends, like initially I go to sleep. We try to get our kids in bed as soon as possible. A daughter goes down around like a thirty, but she had seen to fight it. Sometimes my oldest old goes to sleep. Whenever he goes to sleep, and then my jewel, like my my middle son, he typically goes to sleep, you know, probably around not eight o'clock, eight o'clock he starts to Really you can tell, you know,

you got kids. You can just telling eyes and you're like, yes, let's go play outside for a little bit, you know what I mean. Get him a little bit more tired, so I sleep, you know, I try to try to put him lowerally, spend some time with my wife, you know her, go to sleep and watch some film, wake up, you know, and then start my day again. It's a good time to do that. House is quiet, you can turn on the film and get going. Josh Allen Jaguars outside linebacker with us to that point. Let's talk a

little ball now another year another defense. Well, how different is Mike called will scheme? And what does it do for a guy like you? Oh man? His scheme is just so it's so different in so many different ways. If that makes I don't know, that was a little more We need to so um the way I feel like this deference is is built upon and the way he's teaching it to us, it's real professional, you know what I mean, It's real. Okay, this is a call.

Yet we're gonna get a lot of stuff done. But study the film, study how we run it, you know what you need to do, execute it. But he's also teaching it us in a way of as football players, not just you know, we don't just get a play, write it down, we'll walk through it. Is he's telling us the reason why we call this play in the situation that we would call this play, And so he's

getting bringing us more situational awareness. And plus he played the game, so now he can speak to us in a way of okay, like the little things like you know, one of our outside backers like if I'm drifting, you know what I'm saying, Hey, we don't need to drift because you drip. Now we've got this in breaking right right here. So when you get to your point set

right here, and now you play off of that. So is having that awareness now, especially for me, I'm year four now and so I kind of can pick up on things a little a lot easier. So for me you know, I think it's it's real beneficial because that's where you know, I want to improve my game. I was just in play skills, you know what I'm saying, or taking it to the next level, and I feel like just with him and other coaches around, I feel like we all are taking our game to the next level.

And that's what I'm really excited about. Josh Allen with US Jaguars outside linebacker, rushing the quarterback is priority number one. We get that. But you mentioned no stepping back in coverage a little bit. I know you did some of that back in your college, and you did a little bit of that last year too, obviously with an interception last season. But is it natural? Is it something you have to work on your coverage skills or is that even is that just down the list of priorities for you.

I mean, you know, athlete is always going to be an athlete. I feel like even when you get a lot older and you play sports and you are a good athlete, I feel like that never leaves your body. So like you know, he seeing Trayvon, you know what I'm saying, dropping coverage and move the way he does, you know, he never I don't think he rarely dropped as well as much as or as the drops that we're doing here and the transition that he's making. I feel like an athlete is always going to be an athlete.

So and I could say that I believe I'm a really good athlete and I can do a lot of different things. And that's what I love about this defense because I can be interchangeable, you know what I'm saying. If you think you have to just prioritize me on one thing Russian, the pastor h I might drop. So now that might open up for other people. And that's where I want to get tray von on so he can have that similar threat. So it's like, you don't

know where we're coming from. We could be both dropping rushing, you know what I'm saying. So, um, that's where and that's where the next level comes from, you know what I'm saying. Now you've got to know the play and now you can reformations and now you can adjust from what you want to do out the formations, the mess at the disguises of you know, the food with the offenses. But you know, for me, I feel like I'm there to a certain extent trying to get everybody else around

me evolved in more of that. But we have to learn the plays and you know, saying we have to learn a quick Josh Allen is with us, Trayvon Walker. First impressions of him, at least from me, it feels like he's just a straight pro like he's here to work and get it done. He's not a big flashy media type. That's not his personality at least the first impressions I get. What is he like in the room. He's a sponge. You know what I'm saying. He was

exactly the way I was. You know what I'm saying when I came into the league, And um, you know, he wants to he wants to he wants to achieve what he wants to achieve. You know what I'm saying. He has his goals and what he wants to do this year, and he's gonna do everything he can to achieve those goals and for himself and for this team, because I told him, like, we win by our best

players being great at all at all times. So you know, we drafted you here and this is a standard that you know, I'm saying that we set for each other. You know say, not what the outside world or what you know, you're a number pig, You got all this type of posed. Don't worry about that. Worry about the standard that we give each other and you know what what we expect from you, and worry about that. Worry about yourself and worry about just coming here and do

what you need to do. But for that man, he's gonna be he's gonna be a heck of a player. And I feel like, you know, as soon as like I said, man, this defense is deference can be this defense can be complicated. But I feel like, you know, when we take that next step and we understand this complicated defense, we can really we can really do some crazy things with the defense that we can that that we have never seen in a long time in Jacksonville.

And that's what I'm really excited about. And that's what I'm really excited about that man because he can do the same things that I can do, just has longer arms and he's about ten fifteen pounds bigger than me. You know what I'm saying. Okay, that's trademon author and he's a humble guy. Also, you know, he's an old soul. He's an uncle. You know, he just has that uncle vibe. He's just kicking and cooling it. And you know he's just a person you want to be around. That's how

That's how old group. I gotta shout out to myrow, the old groups, the whole group. Man, we all vibe, we all kicking, we all want to be and we all want to we all want to hold each other accountable. You know what I'm saying. That's our goal. And you know, not only for our group, but we have instead of im No, I'm probably don't extra, but you know, for our group, you know, we want to set the standard, you know what I'm saying, and for but for us to set that standard for all, we have to set

it for ourselves, you know what I'm saying. And then people see how we work, see how we communicate, see how how are we fight for each other. Now that not another group might take that. Okay, now we need to get that, but we're gonna gonna get this collectively because we all want unit. But for right now, you

have to control yourself, you know what I'm saying. Then you have to control your unit, and then you can control the unit as one like, we're doing a good job at that on this O T a S period and my training camp comes, we're gonna rimp that up a little bit. Josh Allen with us is Jaguars Happy Hour on tinte XL and Jaguars dot Com. J P.

Shadrick with the Jaguars Outside linebacker Josh Allen. All Right, So there was some comments I think last week that were attributed to you after one of the practices you talked about you know, you you had kind of lost I forget the exact words, but you had lost your focus maybe some intensity the last year or so. That was the feeling I think of the article. Um, the numbers have been down a little bit, you were trying to regain that focus in the off season. Is that

close to Is that accurate? And and do you think you found the right track to get back to your rookie form? Let's say, Man, I think you know, and why don't you Why do you think you lost some of that over the last year or did you okay everything that went on? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And I don't want to really make no excuses, but as much stuff that went wrong last year, man, I feel like we can also gain from that, you know what I'm saying, Like your failures, you know you felt

so many times. You keep working at it, they're gonna become your successes and your you know, things that you can take from from that in life. So you know, I learned a lot from that year. I learned a lot from last year, and that carried me on to working as hard as I can and experiencing different things it's all season, and doing different things and being around

certain different people, you know what I mean. I feel like that kind of you know, push me to to really to really get to where I need to be as a professional and just as a teammate from for for not just for myself, for for all and uh you know, for me, man, I just have to you know, for me, You know what gets me going is to stay committed, you know what I mean, Like have a goal, stay committed to that goal, and hold yourself. I got gotta hold myself like a ble. You know what I'm saying.

If I tell myself that, I'm gonna you know, I want I want to be great, you know what I'm saying. I want to achieve what I want to achieve. This year. I have to do literally every single thing you know what I'm saying that I need to do, you know, and that takes and that takes hard work every day, you know what I'm saying. But that's a commitment that I made for myself, and that's a commitment I'm a you know, giving to my teammates and hopefully they can

carry that with him as well. Final a couple of minutes with the Josh, thanks for the time today. We appreciate this. So you went to the Vontan Miller Pass Rushia Academy camp thing a couple of weeks to go out in Las Vegas. Take us through that weekend. Was that your first time to go to it? And and what do you get out of it as a pass rusher and and take us through Vegas? Man, that was a great experience. That was my first time you know, at the at the summit, and that was my first

time in Vegas. So there's two things I had to get adjusted to. But um, just the camp, man, the camp was just it was so awesome for me because, like I said, I'm at that stairs where I'm I'm trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying. And I think I have I think I'm on the right path. And so being out there to hear everything that I heard was on the right track to where

I want to be. And and so it was great to to get more knowledge and to really you know, evaluate my game and it really dissect my game feel like, feel study myself and see what type player I really am, you know what I'm saying, and then chase after that, and then grow after that, you know what I'm saying. So they really like as much stuff that they were teaching me about what they did and how they had successes, I had to figure out, how can I take this

and adapted to myself and my scheme and my defense. Uh, And so that was the part that I really you know, went down there for. And plus how did they you know, how did they How did they take care of their body? You know what I'm saying, like, how did they? How did they play at an all time level every week, you know what I'm saying. And and just being around guys like that, you know what I'm saying, like holding yourself to a higher standard, having those guys hold myself

to a higher standard. That was the craziest thing because they're seeing greatness in me that I know I see but I haven't seen it yet, but they can see it. So that's so that was a really humbling and humbling and cool experience that I had to, you know, to take with me. And plus I can take a lot of stuff back that I got from there and I can bring it back here and and so far, you know, the little things. You know what I'm saying, the work, the work ethic. You know what I'm saying that that

like that we have is is phenomenal. And if we be able to keep this up, like I said, we have to be committed, can be interested. You gotta be committed to really want to achieve everything you want to achieve. And that's how you get you know what I'm saying, what you want? And Traymond gonna break my record. Oh yeah, the rookie, he's breaking my record. Okay, I'm sorry, try mom, but I had to let people know. You know, they kept trying. They keep sleeping on him about being this

a right, no pass rusher, no whatever. You guys read all that stuff. Yeah that dude, you know I read it. You know what I'm saying, because that that my partner you know what I'm saying. So, like, you know, he's he's going out there and he's gonna he's gonna affect the game in many different ways. And I'm excited to see that. What's your off season plans we got coming up the next few weeks? Man? Uh, you know obviously I'm gonna be working out. Um. I got a trip

to London. Oh yeah, nice next week, very nice next week promotional tour. That's right. Super excited about that. My wife and not get to go out there and you know, experienced London together and really just enjoy, you know, the beautiful city of London. He's never really good to do that when you're playing there because exactly you're exactly so, so yeah, I'm excited about that. It will be fun. Hey Josh, always good to see you. Appreciate the time.

That's Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker. We're back in a moment. Jeff Loguman rejoins us after this Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten x, our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's not what I need to do. We're gonna let them do what they do best will kind of mold the defense and mold the scheme around what our players can do. And we're in the process of doing that.

And that's one of the things that have a great coach and staff and their teachers so they're able to teach what we want to get done. And again that's the molding part of it. That is Mike Caldwell earlier today at the Bank, the Jaguars defensive coordinator. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick with Jeff Loguin or thanks to Josh Allen for jumping on with us.

He's the best. He's so good. Yeah, he's first of all, he's one of my favorite players ever just because he's a he's a great guy and he's a good football player. And I hope he has a great year, you know, a healthy year, because if he has a healthy year, he will have a great year. They've put a lot of pieces around him to uh, in theory could put up for it. Do you buy that. Well, I'm not a big fan of saying that they put pieces around him. Okay, okay,

because that means well, he's not the center piece. I mean he's one of the pieces. I think sometimes people like if look, he's not Aaron Donald. If you were saying, eron Donald, they put pieces around Aaron Donald, that's a little different. Josh still has to uh to earn the right to say, hey, they're putting pieces around him. I think he's a fantastic football player. He's a great athlete, and I think with some of the things that he can do, he's gonna give Mike Caldwell a lot of options.

And it was interesting today listening to Mike Toll. First of all, I think he's a great leader, and I think that Doug Peterson saw something that might called well a long time ago. But just from me sitting back watching and having been around a lot of great leaders in the past in my in my career broadcasting and as a player, I think Mike's got a little something special to him. And then he's got a real calm,

confident demeter. The way he talks, it's very clear and concise and there's no different way to interpret what he says. And he was asked the question today about what will the personality of your defense be? Do you remember what he said? We'll see yeah, because that's that's what you That's that's real. You can't said and you can say, hey, look we're gonna operate on some of the fundamentals. We're gonna be hard working, we're gonna play fast, we're gonna

do this, we're gonna do that. But to answer that involved of a question about what the personality of your defense is gonna be, that's to be determined. You know, the guys that are playing are gonna they're gonna make that decision. So you can say, oh, you want we want to be tough again, that's great. But if you don't do those things, and there's different personalities that can

accomplish the same end results. So I thought that that was it was very interesting to hear him speak very honestly, but in reality, that's what the players need to hear because it's not about well, we're just gonna magically and we're gonna be this. Okay, Now, it's what you earn. And he used that term a lot about guys earning roles and earning the right and and that's impressive to me because that's the way it is. That's the reality

of professional football. And you're not saying, oh, well, we're gonna, you know, do this, this, and this guy is gonna be this. We'll wait a minute. All the roles and in the playtime, it's to be determined. It's what you earn. And I think he does a great job. And I think Doug Peterson does a great job with the messaging to their team and making sure that they are very where that things need to be earned. There's a lot of conversation today also about the green dot which is

on the back of the helmet. It signifies who has the coach to player communication device in their helmets. Well, there's a few different guys they feel like can do that, and it may not be just one guy. With the different packages they might have in mind, they could rotate it depending on the play, depending on the situation, you know, in theory. Ideally, and he said this today, Mike Caldwell, did you you'd love to have a three down linebacker?

Who's out there? He's your guy? Paulp was Lessing, right, guy is probably the likeliest candidate right now. Because he also talked extensively about him a little bit and about some of the traits that he had heard that he had, and then when he digested the film on him. He said you could see the tangible skills that he had, and he felt very strongly about putting him in front of the huddle. Okay, the guy you want to put in front of the huddle's gonna be one wearing a

green dot. So if Loukhan is gonna be a three down linebacker, a good chance he's gonna have that green dot. MoMA has been talked about in the post draft processes, the ability to do that at some point rookie though, same with Devin Lloyd. So you might have to work through some things there. But that's a lot to ask of a rookie. That's what he said today to a

lot to ask of a rookie. I I just remember going back to my rookie year and when I was playing an outside linebacker in a three four because that's what I came in the league playing. My head was spinning coverages, rushing adjustments, and it was a lot to take in, not that it was hard. I like to kind of be nice and I want to say that I didn't exactly have a great coach. I can tell you that. Um uh yeah, there's a story to that.

But anyway, head of spinning and I don't. I wouldn't have felt confident wearing a Green dot my rookie year in no way. No, I mean it's just just so much. I mean it's a different game that calls, the language is different, and then the speed and the chain angina the game. Um, that's a lot. That's a that's too much to ask of a rookie. Now, look, there's guys that I'm sure they can handle it. I can tell you the one thing though, that I was not one

that could have handled it. Enjoy talking to the Shade Townsend today as well, A long time Steeler of course, Uh yeah, Bama guy. But he's he's got a good group to work with. A cornerback. He's a cornerback coach for the Jaguars, the passing game coordinator on defense as well, so he'll have his hands full. And um, they're working through to just kind of figure out who are the options at the nickel spot. And that's a position he played,

so it's close to his heart. He was a nickel for a long time in the NFL, so he knows what this thing is supposed to look like. Yeah, the I think his career began Pittsburgh Steelers played I think ninety eight through two thousand and five with Pittsburgh. Good player. Um, he's coaching the cornerbacks. And then you have Cody Grimm

coaching the safeties. And Cody Graham has a Hall of Fame father, Rush Grim, who was a member of the Washington Redskins the Hogs, and I grew up watching those guys, and his dad was a marvelous player, now I mean a marvelous football player. And uh, I was talking to him a little bit about that because you know, I grew up, you know, watching his dad, had great respect for him. Fact, actually played against his dad for a couple of years and it was a two thousand and

ten induction in the Hall of Fame. But Cody Grim was a draft pick of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was with Tampa last year, so a good opportunity. Obviously worked with Mike in Tampa, but a good opportunity for him. Here is the safety's coach, and I think he's excited. He had some glowing things to say about some of

the guys that he's gonna be working with. And then I had a chance to sit out a little longer with Brinson Buckner Today we we've had him on our air and that you want to talk about a conversation. He's great, it's fantastic. I like his practice get ups because you know, coaches always have a style, and the style always comes from what you get in equipment room. Correct. Okay, but Princeton's got he gets the whold knee high socks going with the big baggy shorts. I mean it's it's

a yeah. It's a good defensive line coach if there ever was a lot. Yes, And he's got a lot of personality and he's he's fun. He's fun to talk to. Good football player too, he was a great football player when he was in Carolina. That that they had what I thought was the best defensive line in football for a period of time in Caroline was the early two thousand's right, I mean that was like as with the Super BOWLO three right three season? Yeah, I think it was.

They added that the group that they had it was a really good group. So we'll hear from a lot of these guys again tomorrow on the Official Jaguars Podcast network on the Jaguars Broadcast weekend review dinging, how about that? Um so we get a little ching ching yes on the podcast link at the top of the home just search j he Shadow just and that he's gonna be coming up tomorrow in the afternoon. All right, So it

was a good visit with a lot of those guys. Today, we've got business to attend to when we come back. If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com, you'll take a live look at the construction outside. There's metal going up. We're gonna go around the National Football We're gonna talk about Kazoo. Remember from the flint Stones and when around the league there's a story that involves Kazoo from the Flintstone. I can't wait. You watch the flint Stone? Were you

born yet? I remember the Vitamins? Remember those? Yeah? That was the car to watch. Yes, Barney Rubble and all those guys, just making sure because I mean, JP, you're kind of young enough you might know the Pink bar or the Barney the other party, the other Barny. No, I'm not that yuh okay no, No, We're back in a moment. Is Jaguar is Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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check that out, you know, don't you. I don't know you're talking about. You know, I don't know what you're talking about. I think you're gonna be there to help make the announcement. I am going to be there to help make so, you know, I don't know. You could tell everybody, right, And I just work here, man, I just work here. People come to the show to get information. JP give it to him. I'm just told them there's a thing on Monday you can come back. Is it

called teasing ahead? You can probably watch it on Jaguars social media. That information released on our show right here, that'd be better for us, right, well, it's good for you, better for our ratings. Well, at some point we'll have the live announcement on our on our air another show, but not tonight, chicken. Will you try to announce something called me a chicken? So you said, wow, we're name calling. Now let's go around the National Football League, shall we. Well,

the Rams keep spending money. I don't know if they have like a Swiss bank account, Like what, how do you get all this money? I don't know, But they found it, didn't they. Earlier this week, Aaron Donald gets a ninety five million dollar restructure in his contract. Now an average salary of thirty one point six million dollars through four for Aaron Donald, it's forty million more than he was previously scheduled to make sixty five million guaranteed

dollars over the next two seasons. I mean, it's crazy money and it's probably not enough. But here's the reality. He's the best defensive player in football and that there's not even an argument. I don't think. I mean, you can say, well, t J. Watt, Yeah, but Aaron Donald affects the game more than anybody in the National foot last play the Super Bowl like he's the guy who made the play and everybody knew, not that Jala Ramsey

would have been to go. Yes, So Jillen Ramsey all to donate some of his salary for the restructuring of Aaron Donald. No jail in man. I don't think that's going to happen. But that's a lot of money. And I can tell you this, the money is available. That's what the league is pulling in. And there's a they're good for good for Aaron Donald. He's the best player on the defensive side of the ball. He deserves to be paid right up there with some of the best

quarterbacks because he's that good. He's getting paid the quarterback salary now last and I and I give him credit because he made a statement said I'm gonna stand my ground that you know, I may not play. I may play, we'll see how it goes, essentially saying that I need to get paid more. And he did, and it takes courage to do that, and good for him. Well, the best receiver in football also is getting paid, arguably the best receiver. Cooper Cup three years eighty million dollar extension

for him. It's seventy five million of that is guaranteed. It adds to a current deal and he'll now get paid million dollars over the next five seasons. Cooper Cup with a ram which which basically makes him underpaid. I mean it really does. I mean if you look at some of the top so let's say he's making twenty million year, right, that's what it comes out to be average wise. Okay, what a Christian Kirk get Yeah, yeah, okay. I make my point being is that Cooper Cups the

best wide receiver in football right now. Okay, so twenty million a year, Well that's not too bad for this year. And he said he wasn't trying to reset the market. I understand that. You know, you you want to get paid, you want to get paid fairly. Okay, four years down the road, if he's still the best receiver in football,

then you rip it up and try it again. They would have to, I mean, he would have to pull an air and Donald Hey, I'm out of here, but good for him for for getting the guaranteed money, and uh, kudos them. And I can tell you this, the Rams are gonna be building that football team with mega stars and a bunch of late round draft picks and and undrafted free agents. They better hit those late round and draft picks. That's better, because I can't tell you they don't.

They don't have any other one. They don't have any of the other ones. And uh, this is gonna prohibit them from being an active participant in free agency. For example, people are talking about getting uh, you know the um um they find signed Allen Robinson doing recently in free agency, and then there's talk about let's bring oh b J back to l A to play another year. How can you afford that they're just moving money down the road. I guess, you know. I mean, I don't even know

how you do that. I mean, I mean, I don't know something. I don't know if you could restructure anyway. Somebody's gonna have to figure it out. About five years. They're probably not gonna be the guys that are there now. The Rams are living in the moment, Yes they are. Let's need loving it right, now, if he had drafted better in the years previous, then maybe they would be in the position that they're in. That let it's work. Congratulations. Then they won a super Bowl, they got a ring,

got a great coach. Offensive lineman Laurent Duverney Tardif continues to pause. I think I said that right. I took French for two years. I still didn't get it right. I don't DuVernay Tardiff, yeah that he continues to pause his football career for the medical field. Former Chiefs and the Jets lineman Brings begins a residency program in the Montreal Area Hospital next month. He is an unrestricted free agent. He said he's prioritizing medicine. We'll see again in September

if there's a fit in the NFL. He was the first player to opt out of the twenty season and helped aid in the fight against COVID nineteen. He never played for the Chiefs again. He was traded to the Jets in November of last season and played eight games with seven starts for the Jets. He's got a doctorate in medicine a master's degree in surgery from McGill University in Montreal. Yeah, he's a good football player too now, but he feels like he's got a higher calling and

good for him. Good for him. Uh, let me let me see her. So I want to be a doctor or do I wanna be an NFL player? Probably maybe do a little both, which one pays more. Let's see the NFL pays a little bit more right now? Okay, but if I keep playing, that will my brain operate better and at a good level in the next few years to be a doctor. Let's finish with this streaking of UH. Teams are starting to ramp up offseason workouts.

Of course, the Mani Camps are next week. The Jaguars only have a few participating, but many players will be wearing an extra piece of head protection for the first time, requiring the use next week of guardian caps. Take us through what a guardian cap is quickly. Well, the first one that I ever saw was Mark Kelso the Buffalo Bills years ago during our Super Bowl are He actually wore one on the outside of his helmet. And then there was an offensive lineman for the San Francisco forty

Niners at War One. This is a padded outside cover that goes on helmets. It helps minimize the contact that the players sustain. UH. And there's a lot of teams that will be having their players where throughout training camp and practices during the week so that they can minimize the banging the impacts of head collisions, and I think it's extremely smart that they're doing it. Some teams actually, like the Pittsburgh Steelers, had them on to a mini

camps for unpadded practice. So just in case you had some incidental contact, do you have it the news of the week in the NFL. That'll do it for our show today logs. Good to see our last show before the break is next week. That's great, we'll see you then. I'm looking forward to the Reaver Joe Fortunato. I'm J. P. Shadrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.