Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 18

certainly up in the air now as well. But we'll get you through this last program today. Here's what's coming up on the show. Analyst Jeff Lockman will join us. We'll talk a little ball and see what the Jags are up to this week. Few guys have been out practicing on their own, it looked like on social media. NFL Network reporter Steve White discusses the social justice initiatives from the Jaguars that have happened over the last two

or three weeks and the league as a whole. He's been very active on social media and in his reporting on NFL Network about what the league has done the reaction to it, and he was the one actually that broke the Colin Kaepernick story of why his kneeling began back in the first place, back in Goshen. So we'll get his perspective on that reaction then as opposed to now. Senior writer John Ozier joins us. Also, we'll break down

his podcast earlier in the week. He spoke with Terry Robiski, the running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, director of player development for the Jackson We'll get his thoughts on that and four three verses three four that was the talk late last week from defensive coordinator Todd Wash will break that down again. We'll go around the National Football League as well. So quite a show today, our last one for a while. This is we are nearing the three

month mark. In fact, tomorrow would be the three month anniversary of our last show in the building at t I A. A. Bank Field, that was on March nineteen. Imagine that, Jeff Loghman on the phone with us now Jaguars analysts logs. That's a crazy three month period about that. Ah yeah, I mean it, It certainly is crazy. And uh you would think in three months you might have a little bit more answers, But I think you still have a lot more questions, maybe than even than you

had three months ago. Uh. I think it puts a lot of things up in here. But before we get to that, was I the only one that was listening at the beginning, going, where do you get a hand rolled cuban sandwich? Sandwich? You were thinking, Okay, yeah, I'm kind of hungry. And if we said cuban, I said, oh man, I'd love to have me a cuban right now. And I started thinking, I said, wait a minute, I think he meant a cigar. That's exactly that's true, that maybe a st You like them both, don't I will

turn in either one of them down most days. But to get to get back to the conversation about ball or you know, the questions of what's happened in the last three months, I mean, do you do you see in your mind this NFL happening normally when we get around to training camp July August, September. But normally I'm sure you mean, you know, rookies show up a week early, then the quarterbacks are in, and then the rest of the team, the veterans show up at a certain date

and they do two weeks. I mean anything anything being normal. Yeah, I think the definition of normal has changed, and we don't know what that is yet. Yeah. I think we're we're going to see a lot of different things. And here's the here's the thing. What happens if you're in season and then on Saturday or Sunday morning for that matter, you wake up and you're starting quarterbacks not feeling good? Okay and uh and and he just spent all week in the same room with the backup quarterbacks and with

the quarterback coach, and you you test him. He's positive, whether it be Saturday or Sunday. Um, what are you? What are you doing? I mean, do you do you have? Can you? Can you just go ahead and expect to play your backups who've been in the same room, have been around. You're starting quarterback who tested positive. I mean, I mean, how do you handle that challenge? Man? It's it's so it's not even that's not even the right

word for what this is. Yeah, because even they are I mean, what happens, you know, to the game if one team does not have quarterbacks available in that scenario? Position groups? I mean we're talking, I mean, we're we're seeing where it's you know, you guys, are I know that what six players or whatever? That the University of Houston, I think it was Texas Today. Texas today had a few, and then the Houston Texans in the Dallas Cowboys had

some recently as well. All right, but I think there was another university in Texas that had an issue while ago. But I mean, I'm you're sit there and you think about that. Okay, Well, what if you get a defensive lineman who's positive and he's asymptomatic, and he spends all week with his guys. You know, he's doing one on one drills. And look, when you do one on one drills, I mean you're making contact with people. You know, you're

you're breathing on people. Uh, you're shedding things. I mean that's what the definition what they're talking about how the virus passes is through shedding. So what do you do. I mean, if if one guy tests positive, he's been asymptomatic, he's been in the same room as everybody else, and and you could have an entire room that's out, well, that entire room also has been around the other entire rooms in the huddles and on the field and in the locker room. I mean, how how do you handle this?

You know? I mean, it's so many questions, so many And today, I believe, or yesterday, I think it was today. Dr Fauci, the infectious disease expert that is in the White House and does all that stuff, said that football probably won't be able to be played unless it's a bubble situation like the NBA is talking about and Major League Baseball, where basically you quarantine the entire team at

a place for the season. Well, that's not realistic. You can't do that with you know, fifty three active guys, ten practice squad guys, coaching staff, everybody. What are you gonna do? Quarantine there, quarantine them and a bubble away from their family, and then their family is going to be quarantine and a bubble away from anybody else. Right. That's tough, I mean, because you can't you can't expect

a player to be away from his family. But but I mean, that's that's the thing, is that even though we were all hopeful that, you know, once we get the summer, that the frequency of transmission would down, and obviously we're seeing some high set and some of the testing procedures that related to an increase in positive tests and and the virus spreading or is that related to just the simple fact that there's a lot more testing going on right now too. You don't know the answer

to that. And politics seems to get involved in everything, and so sometimes it's hard to decipher what the truth is going to be. But the boy, it's it's just it's just hard sometimes to envisions. We head to this little bit of a break in the dead zone, you know, when we come back, are we going to be out of the dead zone or are we going to be continuing to exist in the dead zone with a lot of uncertainty? You know? So, uh, I don't have the

answer to that. And I'm sure that there's a lot of a lot of possibilities that are being discussed at the league level, at team levels, and and I have a feeling that there's a lot of I don't want to say indecision, but there's a lot of decisions that haven't been made because they just simply don't know the

answer right now. Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars analyst. And even if we do get to let's say training camp, right and the players can practice and they figured it out and they're gonna test and all that is fine, quote unquote, I don't think we'll be even close to their lives to cover it. No, heck no, no, JP. We won't be anywhere. We won't be allowed anywhere near it. I'll be sitting in this chair right here, interviewing guys over zoom or however they set it up. That's how

that's going. It'll be, you know, if you want to watch maybe on some kind of film, thinking that you're not going down there to to be on the field and be around players and and for them to be at risk of being around you. I mean, that's uh, the the way that the game is covered from a media standpoint. Media is going to have extremely limited access. Everything will be done via zoom or team whatever you want to call, uh there or whatever avenue is most

available or readily available to to the masses. And uh yeah, I mean you're gonna restrict everything. I mean, when when I mentioned just before, you know, when you talk about having your team traveling, I mean, who's essential you're talking about essential personnelity be able to have a football game.

But I mean here's the here's the thing. I mean, that's assuming you could even have it right, I mean, that's and and that right now, that seems to be you know, a pretty big assumption, you know, I mean being said, I mean, what other what other pro sports league is is playing right now? Well, you got soccer. So the Premier League in England started yesterday, I believe actual games, Bundesliga and Germany has been playing for a

little bit. Um Nascar, but that's not a contact sport at least personal Nascar is about as good as social distancing as you can do. Man could have got a car, you know, let him, let him umping grind, but bumping grind is six ft or more at least. Yeah, that's right. Uh, you're swapping paint, you're not swapping spit. So yeah, so that's about it. Bugs. And then once NBA gets going,

that's the bubble thing. If there's been a little bit of pushback from the players on that as of late, to be in a bubble, JP, I mean, and you know, I mean because I will beyond you that now to me, you're asking me sure if that means getting a paycheck, I'll say, in the bubble, to get the paycheck and then move totally understand that I don't have a family. I don't have kids. I don't have any of that stuff. So and that's that's where the question gets bigger and

the answer gets more difficult. And and with football you're dealing with man much many, many, many more numbers than you're talking about with basketball. And I think that's why the league right now, as you know, I don't want to say they've been quiet. I mean they've been certainly responsive to some extent, but I think that they want to see how it goes with other leagues that have started or that are going to start, to see how they can proceed and what might work and what might

not work. Right, but that's probably the last thing to do in the Jaguars umbrella under the ownership group of the cons Fulham Football Club and the Championship that the second league in England. They start on Saturday, so they've had some warm ups to get ready, so that'll be really a first hand look with some of the Jaguars folks involved in Fulham business as well over in London, so we'll get a little better look there as well. Jeff Logan, with US Jaguars analyst, joining us here on

Jaguars Happy Hour. Well, the real virtual offseason program is over, but on social media this week we saw a glimpse into some Jaguars getting out on a local high school field here and starting to work a little bit together. Um, I believe Gardner Minshew was involved, d J. Chark, handful of receivers, that kind of thing. You know, it's the first time I think probably they've been able to get together on their own. That's a good thing. I don't know, if you're gonna get a lot of answers is better

than not doing it, I guess. Yeah. I mean it's something. And do we know that that's the first time they've gotten together. No, I mean if yeah, I mean that's

And here's the thing. If you have gotten together previously with a bunch of guys with with having seen some of the criticism that other players have gotten for gathering with teammates to play catch or throw the football together, you know, some guys might have have done it a little bit under the shroud of secrecy, you know, just to not expose themselves to criticism for not practicing quote unquote social distance team. So but I mean it's good.

I mean as much as you can try to get together and throw I mean, look, Gardner Minshew, even though Uncle Rico did it, you know, he can't sit out in park a van out in the middle of the valley and to start throwing the football over the mountain and get loose and feel like he's gotten a lot of big workout. You know, you got to throw the people.

You gotta have speed, you got to have you know, your guys and time me and so I mean, it's good that they're doing that, and well, you hope that they can do as much of that as possible between now and the startup camp, just to kind of keep things rolling along so that when you do get the camp, or if there is a camp, and if there everything is going smoothly that I don't want to say you can hit the ground running, because I think that's a far cry from doing what you need to do to

hit the ground running. But at least you've had something that has has kind of kept you loose and coming in feeling like, Okay, I'm not just coming in cold. Jeff Lockman with US Jack Warres analysts the we've got the next three shows off, so we're back July. I believe is that Thursday will have this show return and hopefully we'll be about a week or so out from

training camp. What's up in the month ahead for you, locks, Uh, just just like what's been up for the last couple of months, the ap Lots of family, family time and uh and you know, and and a little bit of work and other aspects of my life. So it's all good, man. Family is good. Life's good. Life's good and uh, you know, as as as it can be with a worldwide pandemic. And uh, hey, man, ribs are smoking on the girl right now, so's it's not bad. Oh. I can stand six ft away from you if you want me to

taste test those a little uh. Lots good stuff. Man, Thanks for your time throughout this pandemic, and we'll talk to you in a few weeks. Man, J C. C. Buddy Jeff lockhaman smoking ribs. It's a pretty darn good Thursday afternoon, and it's gonna be a better evening. It sounds like at the Logiman household coming up time now for the community. Spotlight Publix is helping those affected by the COVID nineteen pandemic by buying food directly from farmers

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Thursdays away and be back with you in mid July. Time. Now to hear from Steve White, NFL Network reporter, analyst and host. Longtime reporter in the National Football League for a number of different publications in Miami. Harold he was an nb A writer for the Washington Post covering the Wizards and the league there for a little while in Atlanta with the Journal Constitution, and he's been with the

NFL Network for a number of years now. Social justice causes for the Jaguars, they were really the first team to to take a team approach. They were the first team to to march. We'll start there and Jack's owner Shot con I wrote the op ed piece that really set the tone for the organization and a lot of in a lot of ways the National Football League. You'll see the full video coming up early next week with Steve, but a little piece of the conversation coming up here.

Steve Whitch of NFL Network starting with Jaguars owner Shot Khan and his op ed piece back on June three. What was your reaction to that piece when you first read him. Yeah, Look, I think it was important because as we know, Shan Khan is the only minority uh Prince blowner in the NFL, and so for him to come on writing op ed talking about some of the race is him that he's faced and of course he's he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise,

but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know, and I really thought it was very important for him to say he was going to listen to his players, because that's something that owners have not necessarily done somehow, but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna

do it this way or it's the highway. So the fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization, I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good, I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms, and let's players know that they can seize control of the narrative or what is going to happen with the players without any type of obstruction. Steeve, do you think that will be something that Mr Cohn starts that other owners maybe taken and use on their own as well.

Is that something like you said in the past, some are dictatorial, It doesn't really work like that a lot of places. Can this be a league wide phenomena. We'll see. Um. You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions behind their words? And some owners have been very active.

David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers sever ties with their big security agency because they're their CEO of their head was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about what people are protesting against. So you know that this

is a wait and see. But I do think Shan Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but I think absolutely to his players and people in the community who can see that the influence the Jaguars could have and kind of being a guiding hand and measures to be taken to kind of make some some repairs to what's going on right now, certainly in a town like this that the Jaguars are the big fish here

in Jacksonville. So whatever happens from this organization makes a big impact of the community. We've seen that already with the players marches through down town, including the mayor and the sheriff. You don't get a lot of work both ways in a lot of places, but Jacksonville is a place where that has happened so far, it has, you know, And what's interesting is, you know some of these things have been player legs all Leonard for NET and some people you know, take take that the hold of that,

and some of them organizationally led. I mean, think back when you were a little kid. I mean, even if you've got a chance to meet an NFL player or even see one you know on the sideline close or in person and autograph signing whatever. Even if you know that person said you like, hey, you can be a star, You're gonna think, man, he told me I can be a star. And so players understand the influence of the voice of the pro athlete or the or the head coach.

And that's something you know, you're seeing more and more players recognized during this situation, this movement, whatever you want to call it, that we're in right now. I think they're understanding that, yeah, we may not be able to change the minds to some people who are older, who are ingrained, we can teach these young people or show these young people away that we can be better and

more tolerant and more accepting. And that's what I think so many people are forgetting about because maybe the people who aren't buying the tickets but would be the next generation to buy the tickets, those can be the significant influencers. Are those to be influenced in this moment. Steve Weisch with us NFL Media, one of the highly respected reporters on NFL Network, and it's been around the league for

a long time. You Steve obviously broke the story back in August of of why Colin Kaepernick was first sitting and then kneeling during the national anthem, And we bring that up because his name is again at the forefront of the league's I guess awakening is a good term for what has happened over the last few weeks. Why what are your thoughts on why it was so controversial then and why that maybe has changed and his story

is moving this forward? Great Quie, And you know, I don't think Kaepernick necessarily was simply why things have changed with the league this time. I think it changed with the nation. I mean, you're hearing news agencies and people bring up his name, um in this moment, because he told us, you know, when he first did not stand and then eventually kneel during the playing of the national anthem.

A lot of people got hung up on the fact that he wasn't standing for the national anthem when he was saying he was protesting some of the police brutalities and judicial injustices that we're seeing come to the forefront right now. Of course it was punctuated, um with the killing of George Floyd. And I think anybody because we're all home from this COVID right we're all watching our TVs who can't escape it. Anybody who saw the police officer with his knee on George Floyd's neck and George

Floyd dying and screaming for his his dead mother. Um, that wasn't a matter of black or white. That was a matter of right and wrong. And so I think that's one of the reasons for the ground swell. And so this is what Kaepernick was talking about. So people can harken back. Let's they see he was trying he was trying to tell us he wasn't trying to offend anybody at that time by not standing for the national anthem.

He was trying to offend us, to touch the nerve that we're accepting too often of black and brown people being killed by law enforcement or being or those or those law enforcement officers not being held accountable for some of their behaviors. So I think that's part of it, um and that's why I think you're hearing more and more than narrative, especially when it comes to NFL athletes.

Instead of saying I'm protesting, they're explaining why. And that's the first thing I did the first article I wrote about this, I explained why he was doing it. But of course again that got lost in translation very quickly. Steve Whitch with us NFL Network, final thought on Kaepernick here, there's a little bit of a ground swell now for him to be signed at some point by an NFL team. I think the commissioner even mentioned his name the other in an interview. Do you think a team will sign him?

And what type of team can handle this situation? It was interesting first off there, Rodger Goodell said publicly that hey, I've encouraged teams to sign Colin Caeferick privately, he's done that for years, like, hey, you know he's a free agent. You know you guys can sign him. Um, but it hasn't happened, Which is why I think at this point I don't expect the team to sign him. I really don't. It's they've had three years to do it most of these teams. That means they've had three drafts to kind

of come up with their their quarterback development cycle. Even though even the fact that calf has been out of not play football in three years, you can look at some backup quarterbacks and kind of say, you know, he could he could probably at least compete. But you know a team, you know, like the Jaguars, I mean, Mike Glennon is there, but there there's someone he could come in and compete and be the backup. You know, Gardner

Minshew is who they're rolling with the starter. But then you say to yourself, and this is interesting the academy. I've had someone you know, bring this to my attention. Do you bring him into a locker room where he could either be polarizing or more popular than your starter?

And would you even worry about it because odds are there aren't gonna be any media in the locker rooms at least for the first few weeks of training camp and maybe the regular season to ask players consistently about this, which has always been something that has been a distraction in that conversation. So I don't think it's gonna happen um, but maybe some team will do it. And then you have to ask yourself, will Kaepernick be willing to do

it um? Because he made his view as a patronizing gesture instead of this is a sincere attempt, you know, to get him a job back in the NFL. But he may just say forget it anyway, I want to play. I'm gonna give it a shot. We just don't know. Steve Weis with this NFL network, you touched on a little bit of this a moment ago, but the next steps for players, ownership, organizations, and the league as a hole in this movement. You know, this is the the

dead period of the off season. Players have been away all off season anyway, but they're really away now. Does this momentum stay until training camp? And then I guess the next question is what this training camp look like? And I think you just talked about it. They're a little bit without media possibly and then without fans maybe at some point the league still holding hope. The next steps I think are the big question here. How does

this momentum caring? Yeah, you know that it's interesting. I've got a I just an interview with three Vikings players because they felt it was important to talk about this. It's gonna air on our programming this week because they're ground zero right there in Minneapolis where the George Floyd interne had happened and and this could was kind of a trigger point, and they said it is up to them as players, right, they've got to do their jobs.

Excuse me, but used the platform ex giving the NFL Sundays their practices and their their profiles to still talk ab out this. Yes, they know the playing games is their occupation and that's what they're going to be focused on. But that is where being on their Tuesday off days or through some private type of pregame projects or whatever, a postgame project. They've got to keep that going again, we'll see. Um. You know, the football is a tough sport.

You really got to lock in on. Players have done this before. This is nothing new in terms of community service. As for how things are gonna look with COVID nineteen still still you know out there and you know, not really going away. In a lot of places, we still don't know. Man, JP, it's there. There's so much unknown. Teams are spoken to some folks with teams that they're waiting on the lead from the league. The league is kind of saying, well, we've got thirty two different markets.

We've got to see what's going on there. But you know, clearly from everything i'm hearing, you know, media training camp and there's either gonna be none or it could be something where like say media coverage, we're you know, we're parked in a tent and the players are here and we're not gonna have any even six ft away interaction. UM, social distancing and team facilities. You know, how teams are gonna work with players. You know, we're we're hearing about testing.

UM of course training camps are gonna be a team facilities. And we get two games. Will there be fans or won't there be fans? Because because here's something I think about and I'm sure you have to. Let's just say the league goes half capacity at stadiums pre game, What are those thousand fans likely going to be doing on the parking tailgating? So are there gonna be social distancing

while their tail game? Right? So then so then they come into the stadium if you have people every other row, but if you've got someone there to your left and right, how's that gonna work? So it's it's it's I mean, I'm sure it's so complex because there's so many different

things happening in so many different cities. On the risk that the NFL wants to put its players and trainers and coaches and staffers in and the risk that they want to put fans in um because in all honesty, who knows if there's gonna be a vaccine or a cure for this anytime in the near future. And so there's just so many variables, and we've got about five or six weeks to figure it out. It's very very hard to tell. And I myself, as I'm sure you are eager to find out how where this is going

to go, we certainly are. That's Steve whitech NFL Network at whitech eighty nine on Twitter and a really good follow there, very active the last few weeks with everything going on around the national football again and the country early as a whole. A good perspective there from Steve, and you know, as the last note there is the

one we discussed with Logs as well. But we all know until we get closer to training camp and and see if this thing dies down at all, or if there's a vaccine of some sort that comes on the market, that's um all up in the air. As of June eighteen, we're back. In a moment, we'll hear from John Ozer, Jaguars dot com senior writer. He'll join us over the phone line. We're about halfway home. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's Haymade Vodka is America's

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what what What? Was our final show at t I A bank Field before the lockdown, of course, all the many of the sports shut down the week prior to that. On that Thursday and Friday that was players weekend, and then um, we were in the office another few days after that, and then finally that Thursday night, the March nineteenth was our final show. And we haven't been back in the office since, at least I haven't. A few folks have been the last couple of weeks since they've

opened up some parts of the organization. Another person who has not been in the office since then his senior writer, John Osier, who joins us on the phone. Now, John, good afternoon. Yeah, I'm kind of picturing Jake my desk. Like I used to go down to Miami right after Dan marine I retired and they had his locker they're just sort of like encased it with glass. And it was like it was when he retired. So I picture like my in my crappy shirt that he said, sitting there.

It's kind of sitting there all all wadded up encasing glass. Uh. Yeah, it's um gonna be frozen in time. I think our whole office time. Yeah, what was No, it's crazy, it's uh, but it's uh, it's the time we live in. It's it's an odd, odd time. It sounds like, you know, there's probably already dust settled on all of that down at the stadium, but it sounds like there's gonna be at least double the dust. You know. I don't think we'll be in there doing anything for a while. John,

that didn't seem like it. And uh, I think we talked about it last week, J. It just feels like and logically, so I was getting questions about it two weeks ago. Hey, do you feel like the NFL is being overly cautious and all that? It just feels like they're not in the lock except with everybody else. Well, as we've seen the last couple of weeks, I don't think the NFL is being overly cautious. I think they're

being correctly cautious. They realized that the more people who were together, the greatest, uh you know, without extreme caution, the greater chance there is for flare up or whatever you call it. So I expect them to proceed with the absolutely most costume because I don't know how else they would proceed. I mean, they realized that people together, uh sweating, which players will do, is going to be an extreme caution situation. They've got to figure out analy its.

So I don't anticipate being back around them. I just said I saw talking Jags and covering the team. But how that's gonna play out, how the season is going to play out? Um, you know, I wrote today in the Ozone, I think or maybe it's for tomorrow. This has been a the weirdest, most obstacle filled off season that you could possibly imagine, and I expect the regular season to be that. Times ten senior writer John Osier with us you mentioned the Ozone. How many consecutive days

is your streak of ozone posts? Now? You know it's it's uh, I don't really I don't really count it in terms of days because you gotta go sort of undoable. I started the best in my recollection, and I said times to get the original date messed up and I to go back and check it either August eleventh or four of two thousand eleven, so whatever that adds up to one of those days it was. It was a Sunday,

and unfortunately for me, I kind of started it. This was back when there was some doubt over whether Jaguars games would be uh blacked out or not. That was still a thing, and I sort of made the chronic and hey, all, I'll do this every day and until it gain is blacked out, sort of making the point that I didn't think at that point anymore would be blacked out. And I was just sort of flippingly said, hey, y'all, well guess what JP put your money where you're math.

But on a serious now, that's not why I do it anymore. As we've talked about, it's not overly hard the answer fans questions, and it seems like read it every day. Uh, it just for me to sit down and answer Jaguar's sans questions. I feel fortunate too write about football for a living when a lot of people a lot frankly and in the industry came from don't have the opportunity. So the answer some questions for people, and I think most people have a good time when

they're reading it. To do that really isn't that hard. It's not big deal, and you know you're getting questions. When you stop getting questions, you know there are bigger issues. So there is any no doubt. Um, John, you've started the ozone podcast. We've touched on this the last few weeks, but this week we visited with Terry Robisky, running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, the director of player development, and those are two gentlemen that were instrumental in the march from

the stadium to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps. Robiski has been around this league for darn near forty years and as an assistant coach starting with the Raiders way back in the early eighties after a short playing career that was injury shortened. In fact, Marcus Pollard had a long career in the NFL as a tight end, was a basketball player coming up and then worked his way in the NFL a long career there and now on the football side, basically as an adviser of sorts for players.

But UM, these guys were right there in the front of this thing a few weeks ago and it was what a forty four minute podcast that you had with them this week? What what extra did you get out of the conversation with him this week that maybe we didn't hear a couple of weeks ago. Well, the reason I wanted to have him on UM is, first of all, they represent probably close to sixty five cumulative years of

NFL experience. H Terry has been at it, as you said, since seventy seven Marcus started in the league, and he hasn't I mean, I think he was out of the elite for three or four years between retiring and comes

to Jaguar. So these guys have seen a lot. And it struck me you were there with me JP when Terry talked about I thought Terry was incredibly moving when he talked during the March, I guess it's been two or three weeks now too, and but he talked for maybe a minute and a half or two minutes, and it struck me that certainly, if he was interesting in that regard, if Mark's was interesting on the on the steps during an emotional time, that there had to be

a lot more and some background into what they were talking about that they could talk about there. So I hoped that by having them on I could get a little more of a feel for why. For Terry Robiski

it was. It was so moving for him to have heard what shod Con wrote or to have read what shot Com wrote on the website when he talked about uh his essay on racism and to talk about what Doug Moron's leadership had meant, and he talks about both things on the steps, and in talking to both of them, they both expanded on that and expanded on a lot of the issues as to why what the players are doing and why the actions that they are taking on

the racial equality, racial and social justice whatever we're calling it, why that matter to them so much, and why they believe in their hearts that this feels different, and why it's so important in all the issues. So it was as interesting and as insightful, I think as I thought it would be, and I thought the most interesting thing

that came from it. Both of them talked, and both of them kept circling back even when this wasn't the topic, to how important the Doug Morons approach in terms of making everybody feel comfortable talking about this or as comfortable as as possible, and promoting the conversation how important that's been. So our podcast next week is talking to coach Maron about some of the same issues, and I think it's

taken in total. I think it's a chance if you listen to it for about an hour and a half, you really get a full feel for how some of these conversations started, the tone of it, why that he feels like it's important, and most importantly, why they feel like it will continue to be an important topic that everybody takes seriously, but even within the context of the season. So long wit answer obviously, but I certainly feel like we were able to talk about a lot of issues

that are really important right now. And this is going to be important obviously throughout this season. And you know, Doug Moron is going to carve out time in the weekly schedule to have conversations about this with his football team.

That's that's really a slam dunk for him. I think he's definitely gonna do that, and um, you know, I think the players wouldn't like it if he didn't like they were going to talk about it anyway, So make the time for it, address it the right way, and I think that's the way that Jaguars are going to go here. John O's your senior writer Jaguars dot Com with us. You know, we we touched a little bit the last couple of weeks on this three four four

three defense thing. Um we have. It's certainly overblown. It's not Madden, You're not like, you know, Todd wash said that they haven't changed anything they've taught on their defensive front. That you know, they still have the same fronts that they've had, but they just have some different personnel and

they'll move some guys around a little bit. But it's not like you're gonna choose the three four defense in this on this play and Madden and the next play bringing the four three and it's a totally different look. That's that's not what this thing feels like at all. Well, and so listen to Todd talk about it. Listen to Dug talk a a little bit. They will be in some front where they line up and it looks like

a three four when three four defense. What he means is they are not a pure I you know, old Pittsburgh Steelers we had a huge nose tackle, and then you had to quote defensive ends who were really glamorized defensive tackles who didn't rush the past or they weren't shooting gaps, and he said, they're not really a two gap team because teams that have those kind of players asked those guys just to still gaps and not to us the quarterback very much, and they're not quick twitch,

hit gap kind of players. The Jaguars have more players who were one gap style, so it sounds like the biggest difference is the strong sidelinebacker, who in this scheme has been a Leon Jacobs type who plays off the ball, whose pursuing side to side. They have more guys who from that position can go line up put their hand on the ground. And everybody I've talked to, and I talked to Jason Rebovitch about this a couple of weeks ago, and I didn't want to run the story until Tid

had had a chance to talk. He said the same thing to Ti to talk about. It's about versatility, and it's about being able to give the offenses more pre snap looks that aren't eight four three looks. So they're gonna use these players because Unique can do this, and Josh Allen can do this, and Cassius Marsh they can line up as defensive ends or lineback. That's the biggest difference rather than the three or four four three in a look. By the way, JP, that is about of

what they do. So it's it's a lot of talk about you know, I've had people actually get mad, Oh, Todd wash is an idiot because he's not running a three four? What how do you do? You know, they're trying to find a steam that fits their person now the best no matter what you call, there's no magic to a three four. Their defense wasn't bad last year

because they didn't run a three four. It was bad because a lot of the players they had weren't playing as well, they were getting old, and now they're trying to figure out a way to revamp the schemes. Anyway, JP, it's a literally it's a little bit of a pet peeve of But that's fine. That's why I brought it up. I knew it. Yeah, I wanted to get a reaction out of you, John. They're trying to figure out the best team to fit the players that they've gone and gotten.

Then that's what they're going to be doing. That's what they should do, right, makes sense. Yeah, And I'll keep gad you questions about the three four three and and that's fine, but it's it's a lot of it's gonna be different looks. It's gonna be what this scheme has been all along, a hybrid four three three four team that depending on the personnel, can change based on the personnel. John Osha with us you mentioned that unique and got Quay's name in there, and that has been pretty quiet

as of late. You know, there was a lot of tweeting going on a month or two ago from John, and you know, there's all as we've mentioned in the past, there's only a few different things that can happen here on this thing. But I'm curious if that heats up at some point and if there's a deal done or a trade done or what. You know, we just haven't

heard from that in a while, you know. Yeah, And it feels like nothing to be said and nothing to say for a while, and that one to I fIF team throws around or whatever, this will start bubbling up into a topic again. I would anticipate complete from me on at some point. It wouldn't surprise me. I I just don't know really what's going to change from what David called look that after the draft, which is the hey,

we welcome him back, they didn't get any deals. My understanding is they are in no hurry and not of the inclination to trade Unique got way. This is not a situation where the jag wardor saying we need him out of the building. They want him in the building. So right now, if if he doesn't play for the Jaguars, he doesn't play so and and more importantly, probably he doesn't get paid. So is is that just smoke? Are they looking to trade him sometime in August? I don't

think that. I I don't know how it'll play out, but I don't know that. A whole lot of scenes from last of the draft and right that's the draft, it felt like if he doesn't play here, he's not gonna play. Maybe that's why he's being quiet. I always has to want to answer this day. I don't really like to put words in Unique's mouth because he's perfectly

capable in tween that on his own. And I'll be up front, I don't talk to Unique during the off season just because I'm not calling players on that regard, so I don't know what he's thinking or why he does what he dies. I like covering him. I hope he plays for the Jaguars, but because of his personality type, which is he's his own guy. Now, that's what I mean by that, he's gonna do what he wants to do. I can't predict what he's gonna play it next year.

I hope he does well. We got the summer months there to get to training camp and then we'll see what happens on that front. And uh, you know that's a big if obviously, the training camp and all that. Hey, thanks man, appreciate you over the last few months here. We're taking the next three weeks off, but we'll be back about that. We'll Caesch back up with you in mid July about that, alright, Retty, thank you? All right, Johnny john os Or, Senior writer Jaguars dot Com. Good

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