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We'll hear from CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. I'm sure he'll have some things to say about Bruce Smith's comments regarding Tony Basselli. That's coming up about four thirty today. We'll go around the National Football League. If we can get Pete off the phone. Uh. Jeff lockhaman is with us now. It's up man. Happy Thursday. Yeah, Happy Thursday. And it'll be quite some time before folks here from us. After today. We get a little bit of a break.

After today. It goes to that what do we call that the zone, the dead zone zone, and it's gonna be it's not gonna be dead for us. We're gonna do all kinds of fun things. This is the time to do them coming up. Yeah, because once the season starts then we don't have a whole lot of time to do a whole lot of fun stuff other than football fund stuff. But a busy week and that and that the mini camp or what I guess you would call a mini camp occurred, and uh, sit down with

Doug Peterson. That was interesting and I thought, very very cool thing to do. And uh, and then Bruce Smith just shakes the earth in Jacksonville. Amazing. Right, we'll get into this in depth coming up, but uh, you know, just it just felt like we're a month and a half until the enshrinement. Out of nowhere it comes. Here comes Bruce Smith off the top rope. I didn't know

he could even climb to the top rope anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I I thought that the the great approach or the great response is no response, because when when you want a waller in the mud, you don't stoop down to the level of waller and in the mud with somebody like that. And it's very clear that Bruce Smith is very salty about getting his ass kicked. I mean, I'm sorry, but that's the term that is a fact and he got his rare end kicked against the Jaguars in the

playoffs in Buffalo. That's the way it is. Okay, so years ago, But there was some great responses too, because he posted this on Instagram right and and some of the best responses I have ever seen were written on his Instagram account. One of them was like brad Or said that, uh, Bruce, you are so mad. Why don't

you get a cape and be supermad? There was another one I think which was the best, said, dang, Tony has been living rent free in your head for over twenty years apparently apparently, So I just I don't get it. And you know, Bruce, Bruce said some things that I thought were ridiculous, and I wanted to just take a couple excellent from what Bruce said. Yeah, and we'll get to the full part of this coming up a little later in the show. Yes, well, but I just want

to touch on it now. Pick a couple of them out. He accuses a campaign to promote Tony into the Hall of focusing in on one performance and acts as if the campaign was run by Tony himself had nothing to do with it. Tony had outstanding games against great player after great player after great player, the first game that Tony ever started in his career. If you wanted to focus in on one game for a Hall of Fame campaign, and you can go to the very first game that

he played against Sean Jones. Wear them out. I couldn't stay on the bench. I was watching the mayhem that Tony was unleashing on Sean Jones. It was ridiculous. So I'm sorry, Bruce, because he says, I'm quite flattered to be considered the gold standard. Boy. Way to be humble, Bruce. You know you're a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest players ever. I mean, he might be. You don't need to say that you're the gold stand because you know what, Bruce, You're not the only gold standard out there.

There's other guys in the Hall that are wearing yellow jackets. And you know what, many thought that you couldn't carry Reggie Weiss Jock. Okay, So take a little chill on your own importance. And then he follows this up later on and says, the Hall of Fame is an exclusive fraternity that follows a tacit code of conduct which foster's respect and brotherhood between its members. Well guess what by releasing this statement, you just violated that code of conduct.

And then he follows it up with maintaining harmony and goodwill in the Hall of Famous paramount. Well, you call this harmony and goodwill by what you're saying about Tony Basselli going in the Hall of Fame and after the fact. Okay, if you had an opinion about Tony Boselli going in the Hall of Fame, have it before he goes in. Yeah, Like, the last six years has been a debate, right, Okay, that's that's the way it's worked. Now he's in and there's no debate anymore. It's over. He's in. Like what

you had six seven years to do this? A couple more things here. Tony was a formidable opponent. No, Tony was not a formidable opponent. Tony was one of the best left tackles to ever play the game. Okay. Did he have a short career? Yes, Okay, So that point that you make, Okay, that's valid. Okay, he said, Um, I find it difficult to compare the totality of his body of work with those of the NFL's greatest left left tackles, Muonios and Ogden and Roof and Walter Jones,

which they are tremendous players. But he said, during my nineteen years in the NFL, I went against several outstanding left tackles. Bruce Armstrong, Richmond Webb, Will Wolford all had stellar games against me. I'm here to tell you, Bruce, those guys couldn't carry Tony's jock. And I played against all those guys. Okay, they're not in the same category as a Tony Bassell and John Ogden and an Anthony Mounos or Walter Jones. I'm sorry, but anyway, I just

had to say that to get the Well. It's very disappointed because it was totally unnecessary and and Tony's classy guy. He's not gonna respond publicly to it, but I'm sure Pete Prisco will and we'll hear from him coming up. At about four thirties, I texted BISSELLI when I when I saw I saw Bruce comments and I said, so, did you just like swinging the canton and happened to, you know, defecate on Bruce's bust at the hall or

what did you do aggressive? Let's come on, I mean the kind of response that Bruce had I mean, are you kidding me? That's ridiculous, Bruce. So more on that coming up about four thirty today when Pete Prisco CBS Sports joins us and we'll get into that discussion a little bit more mandatory mini camp. The veterans were told, hey, stay away, you're done, most of them. A few guys

stuck around coming off a little injury here there. We saw James Robinson out there doing some stuff on the side yesterday, Jamal Agnew all three days, Rudy Ford yesterday was out there La Visca Attle Bright, So that's a good thing. But mostly rookies were out there, and I mean each practice logs was less than an hour. I mean forty five minutes they were in and out, well maybe you know, maybe forty five minutes. And the newly signed defensive player um Ray was the last name he

was out there. So I mean there was a mix of veterans and rookies and uh yeah, and it was good. It's good work, I mean, and here's the best part about that. For for guys that are young, guys that are maybe new to the team, or guys that maybe missed a lot of the offseason program because of of injury or for whatever reason that it was. This gives them an opportunity to catch up. And I don't mean

hines catch up. I mean catch up with the terminology, catch up with the physical training aspect of the game, to catch up with building a relationship with your teammates, with your coaches. And so from that aspect, it was good. And I liked the thought process that that Doug Peterson had for this and that hey, look and I appreciate this. I really do from a from a players standpoint, having played the game for for a decade, and that the program that just completed prior to this week was all

completely voluntary. Correct. The attendance was outstanding. Guys are committed, Guys are hard working. You had the extra minicamp because you have a new head coach, you have all of the O t A available days, and all of these guys came for all of it. So and I'm not saying you throw a bone to your players, but you reward them for the hard work. And so I appreciate Doug Peterson. And I know Doug talked a lot and the off the record thing that he had the other day,

and it wasn't really off the record. He said, Look, everything's on the record, but it was kind of called that to begin with, but he did maybe you didn't hear that's off but he did say that looked at this felt like this team needed to heal. And I thought that that's, uh, that's pretty strong words to say for a head coach, because I don't know if have you ever heard a head coach talk of those terms? Now?

He said that a few times this offseason that, But I mean, have you ever heard anybody else to talk about anything? No, I mean not here, definitely not here. But have you ever heard of anybody talking about that ever? In football when it comes to a change, a change of the coach from the previous year, I don't remember that ever being set. I'm just trying to think of other instances that were like last year in other places,

and I don't remember one like that in the NFL. No, there might have been a couple of college when similar, but it wasn't you know, it was a little different. And here's the crazy thing, JP, I mean, more stories could probably come out about last year. Yeah, I think that's part of the goal to the offseason program, right, Um, And we're gonna hear from Shaq Griffin coming up in just a few minutes. I'm curious his thoughts on this too. He's obviously was here last year and he's been around

the league a few years now. Doug has talked about this offseason trying to build that trust back, and it felt like this was probably the culmination of that. This this offseason, into the off season program O T A S and then into this mini camp because once they come back in five weeks to training camp, time for that's over the building of this time to move forward,

you're you're moving forward to twenty two and beyond. There should be no more questions about one or what happened last year or the changes or any of that stuff. Get that out of the way now, because I think once training camp hits, it's full speed ahead. It is, and and Doug I think was very specific about that. He said, Hey, look, you know, once we get into camp, we we need to put the pads on. We're gonna we're gonna grind, We're we're gonna be moving forward. We're

not slowing down. And so from that aspect of it, where you're talking about is that you know now that that's behind them, and now it's all full speed ahead. That's why it's got to be because there's a lot to accomplish between the time that you will. Let me rephrase that, there's a lot to accomplish between Queen now and the first game that counts because it's not over, okay, just because you've completed your off season program and everybody's

going in different directions. Now is the most critical time to where guys are tuning their bodies and getting it ready for the regular season. Mentally, it's time to get away and take a break, but you really never do. And I will tell you jp the the closer that you get to training camp as a player, the more you dream about football, the more restless you become. Because you know you're about to enter a grind that doesn't end for six months and it's incredibly demanding. And so

you will have dreams about camp. You'll have dreams about the strain, you have dreams about getting hurt, You'll have dreams about success, and I mean your mind just starts to work over time when you start to get into July. Okay, in that training camp, bell is close to ringing it. It's a it's A. It's a it's just different, it

really is. It's hard to sleep and it's hard to relax from a player standpoint, because once you come back, it's demanding in a lot of different ways physically and mentally. Everything busy schedule coming up at Daily's Place to your live Tomorrow night June seventeenth, the Jacksonville Juneteenth Celebration coming up this Saturday, and the next week to Dusky Truck's Band with Los Lobos and Gabe Dixon. That's Friday, June. Train with Jewel and Blues Traveler the twenty six that's

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for a new look in two. Join us to the bank this season. Proud passes are available starting at two nine dollars. Locking your seats now visit Jaguars dot com slash tickets. We're called nine oh four six three three two thousand's Jaguars Happy Hour continues. Jeff logging and back with us in just a little bit. Jaguars cornerback ship kill Griffin in with us now, Shack, what's up? Are you doing? Doing good? Doing good? Getting a chance to hang out a little bit, you know, take the kids

to some certain places to hang out. Enjoyed yourself and went to Nickelodeon Resort recently right there in can Koon. So he had a blast. Slime people still they still slim people. Um, it was a little bit everywhere they actually do a slime right at the water park. I don't think he liked that as much. I enjoyed it because I always want to go as a kid, so kind of taking this moment a little bit. But we had to share that. But he didn't really liked the slime,

but I did. How old? How old are we talking? Two years? Oh? Two years old? Yeah? Here be three in September. But yeah, he uh, he ain't like the slime, but everything us was amazing, getting harder to catch moving forward. Yeah, the runs of the family. Yeah, so here we are off season programready in the cancoon. You're back in Jacksonville. Now for how long? What is your schedule coming up

to to stay in shape and everything. Well, yeah, I'll be here for the next couple of days, but might actually uh be moving around when it comes to training. I'm going back home for a few weeks back in St. Petersburgh, get a chance to trade with train with ray Shon Jenkins. Uh. My thing is, I want to train with the guys, you know what I'm saying personally, they get a chance

to continue to build that chemistry. Then um, in July, I'll be moving to Miami to get with Tyson Campbell and other guys that will meet up back in Miami get a chance of training together. So the whole thing is, you know, we're pushing each other all O T A s during the mini camp and we gotta keep that going, you know. So we're gonna put each other in the rest of the off season and come back ready for

fall camp. You talked about that before, the importance of bonding as a group, and maybe not just the cornerbacks. If there's some other guys that want to get involved with that too. I'm sure you guys would open the doors. Yeah, no doubt. You know. Uh, My thing is I try to get somewhere, was space enough for anybody who might just put up for a couple of days and you can come stay with me. You know, it'll make it work.

But anybody, you know, we try to get anybody on the team, anybody on the team out, just anybody on the team. You know, imagine again some of the offensive guys there, you know, against some of the d line or whatever it mate takes the we can work on drops, whatever it is. You know, I get a chance to continue to build that chemistry, you know, on both sides

of the ball. Chat Griffin is with us. You know, there's been a lot of talk, and there's question I think has asked a lot because it's the first offseason program with a new coaching staff and everything and Doug Peterson and now that you're out of the building for the offseason, looking back on the last few months when the veterans were in with with Doug leading the way and a veteran coaching staff, how positive was that is that oversold? How positive an environment this has been the

last couple of months or is that is it act? No, It's very accurate, and you know, some things you got to over emphasize, you know. Being a new coaches, it's a lot going on and try to bring the organization back to where we need to be and getting the players to believe in the message that he's given us,

you know. And I feel like he handled it very well going to his offseason, you know, treating the guys you know, like the men that we are, you know, and letting us be exactly who we are in the field and let us contributing the way that we feel like can help the organization win. And he's figured that out, you know. So it's a very same time to get that chance to really be with the guys here, be what coach Doug here, you know, and starting to work

with each other. And you know, we still have a lot left to do, a lot left to accomplished, and we all understand that, you know, and I feel like we truly all on the same page and that's what we needed. It feels like that was it was building up as this offseason went to get to the mandatory mini camp to earn that trust to the players who have been here, because once training camp comes along, we're not asking questions about last year anymore. It's about two

and beyond. I think that was the goal. It feels that he reached that goal. The trust to the teams, they're most definitely you know, everything I thought process and everything is moving forward about this team, this coaching staff, this organization, and that's what you need. We shouldn't have to, you know, go back and I have to review what happened last year because it's a new team. It's a new start, and everybody believing that and we're gonna make

something different. We're gonna make something better out of what we have now. So you know, everybody's buying in and that's the great part. He definitely has our trust. You know, we're ready to run through a brit wall for Duck. So what we're ready for? Cornerbacks? Shaquille Griffins with us here on Jaguars Happy Hour. What do you like about the defense? Oh, the defense is definitely gonna be ruthless. I can tell you that. Ruthless and fast, you know, yeah,

definitely definitely fast. You know, we've got some people that can move around in different places. We can switch it up. But the thing is, we have a team full of confident guys. We don't care who we have to face, who we're going to be playing against. We're going to win, you know. And that's the process going into each day, each practice. And you know, now I feel like we have defense where we want everybody to succeed. You know,

we're not just competing. We're trying to create a new you know, situation when it comes to having everybody ready for any scenario, you know, and that's the best part because everybody want to see everybody be better. And I love that about our defense. And take the ball away, of course, football, take it and keep it, do it over and over and over, of course, you know. And now we have our own little in competition Who're gonna

have the most picks? And I'm already calling it, of course, because I've been working my butt off to make sure I do. But you know, everybody wants a piece of it, and that I love that. You know, we're over emphasized getting the ball, and we're getting the ball in practice. You know that who it starts and we're making it happen so that to continue to build on it. And they gotta make it work. It's Jaguars Happy, our attention. Nextl AM and Jaguars dot Com JP shatterck with Jaguars

cornerback Shaquille Griffin. To that point, The Jaguars Foundation and Larrey Peanuts are partnering on an interception promotion this season, Shack PIF and Freach Jaguars Interception Laray will provide a donation towards youth football initiatives, matched by the Jaguars Foundation. You said you're motivated already to get those picks with

with this peanut pickoff promotion. You're super motivated now we got we got to, you know, and I'm super motivated to continue to you know, to give back and give the others. So I gotta make these plays for myself and for everybody else who's watching, you know. So we can't go ahead and get them done nations going, but we're definitely gonna make sure we get that to happen. You're a vegan, right vegan friendly, you're a full vegan, full vegan, so boiled peanuts are right up your ally. Then, yeah,

a whole bunch of them. That's that's perfect for that. But when you make a lifestyle choice like that, you have to kind of obviously make some decisions about what you're putting your body. And then you have the option of boiled peanuts from lay. You go for that almost every time, and of course it's not easy being vegan, so to have that choice, to have more options, I definitely need it for any vegan need deep boiled peanuts. And they're they're accessible, easily accessible. Like you said, it

can be tough to find some things. We can find these anyway. Yeah, and if you they run out the store, we'll make it happen. Has some sources I think that for peanuts they'll be on sale of course, and old Jaguars two Jaguars preseason and regular season home games at T. I A. A. Bank Field and listen for the peanuts pick off promotion throughout the two season. Any predictions on how many picks the Jaguars will have this year on defense? When my goal is to lead the league, So whatever

that number is, you gotta be a lot coup. We gotta lead the league and we want to be number one and that's our goal. So I can't put a number on it. It's gonna be a lot of m sessions, a lot maybe if you ended the end zone. Also, yes, I definitely need a couple. I don't want to say want I need a couple in the ends in the end zone. And I remember when you first got here, Shack, you said, Hey, the first pick six I have, I'm finding the first of my jersey and I'm giving them

to that still stands still. Once I see that twenty six, you get the first one. You deserve it. I like that, Jack, Thanks for the time, good luck with the promotion this year the Peanut Pickoff presented by Larray World Peanuts. Shack will talk to you and training Camp. We're back with more in a moment. Jeff Lockman will return. After this

is Jaguars Happy Hour and the Jaguars Digital Network. But the checks in Ville, Jaguars, if you face this man on the offensive line, you knew he was destined for canton. One of the most dominant tackles of the nineteen nineties and the first ever Jacksonville Jaguar, Tony Vasselly, welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. That was Bruce Smith introducing Tony Biselli into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, or the announcement that he had been elected on NFL Honors Welcome back,

it's Jaguar's Happy our j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman. Well, that was, of course a few months ago, right around Super Bowl time. Then there was earlier this week on Bruce Smith's Instagram page, a long string of issues with Vasselli, apparently in part saying a large part of the campaign to promote Tony Basselli into the Hall of Fame seems to hyper focus on a single successful performance he had

against me in a playoff game. He later went on to say, I and other Hall of Famers believe it sets a horrible president to negatively zero in on a standing member of the Hall's play in order to validate the candidacy of a nominee. He said, much more, we'll get to it coming up. Pete Prisco of CBS Sports might have a few things to say about this as well. Good afternoon toil your Pete. What's up? What's up? JP?

You know, look, it's it's nice to see Bruce saying those things because we've gotta knocked the sell you down a few pegs before the theomony, don't we I'm getting I mean, you know, JP, A we ever talked about is how giant his head is. Well, that thing is going to be out of control in the next two months, So I mean, you know, bringing him down a little bit is not a bad thing, right. That was not what I was expecting to hear. But yeah, I guess kidding.

And I just don't understand where Bruce is coming from. And why why now, why all of a sudden do you pop that out there and say that, and and it just isn't a good look for him. And this is an exclusive club, and welcome to the club everybody. You know, by the way, I'm gonna take a shot at the guy who's now coming into the club. It just Bruce Smith looks terrible, uh, with way he handled this thing. And I think that's getting a lot of pushback, and he's getting a lot of pushback, which is the

way it should see, Pete. And then the other thing I think that's disappointing is that he makes a statement. But then in that statement he uses the line and I'm gonna read this because I think this is important. He says, um I and other Hall of Famers. He uses that as if there's other Hall of Famers that believe the same as him. That's I mean, that's that's not okay to say, well, you know, I got some other guys that are in the Hall of Fames that

don't appreciate what's happening here. Don't do that because of me. Names Bruce, Well, you don't name names, because you know what, let them attach their own thoughts to their own name. You don't just drag a couple more guys in anonymously to help make your point. I mean, I just think that that was just that was just chicken, you know what. You know who one of those guys is. And and I've because I've actually talked to him over the years and I've argued with them, and it's one of those

guys that never thought Tony was that good. Was John Randall. And the reason being, you remember the game up there, Love, when you were on the team that year, right, that was the year Jonathan Quinn? Were you You were still there? Weren't you? What year was that when Jonathan Quinn had to play quarterback at Minnesota on a Monday? Maybe you were, maybe you weren't on the team. That don't know, but

but it was a nobody everything. Johnathan Quinn was the third team quarterback and he had to start the game. And the Vikings were one of the better teams in the league that year, and they went up there and got ambushed, and Tony had a bad game, like everybody did. And Tony will be the first admit he says it now to this day. I didn't play well against Randall. And John Randall will sit there and say Tony wasn't a good player. And I go, John, you can't say

that off of one game. Give me a break. I mean, that's ridiculous. And and so that's probably the other guy that Bruce Smith's talking about. But never let John Randall speak his mind. I mean, don't don't write, I don't say that. I just don't understand what was the reasoning for it. It's not just one game. By the way, he played him again and handled him in the next time they played too. Remember that. People don't realize that he dominated him again as the second time he played him.

So I just I think it's a bad look for Bruce Smith. It's a really bad look. And Pete, when you look at the comments on Bruce's Instagram page, I thought that the people did a great job responded some of Bruce's comments and some of the great And I said this earlier because I had I had to get it off my chest the very first segment of our show here and I said, this was the best one. And the line was that Tony Bassally is living in Bruce Smith's head for over twenty years, Rent Free. That's

the truth. It is true. And and I'll be honest with you. You know, over the years, I've tried to get stuff out of him to help Tony's cause, and he would never do it. He would never do it, never would and he never remember he never shook his hand after the game either. I mean, he just got a fuse and then ran for the high hill. Well, I mean I don't have a problem with that though. I mean, look, there's a lot of guys that haven't shaken hands after our game because you know, there's anger

or disappointment everything else. But yeah, but okay, that's still that go go shake a hand. I mean, okay, he didn't shake his hand, but then, but then this is going on for you know, fifteen years. He never wanted to say anything. Every time I did. You know, I go to Vick Caruccio. I know, years I go Vick. You know, bout Smith. Can you get him say something about Tony so we could put in the packet for the Hall same thing, and he would never do it. Yeah,

I mean, it's just, it's just. And by the way, I told Tony the other day, Tony, all he had to do is respond to just say three word. Watch the tape. All anybody has to do is watch the tape. He abuse the guy. Pete Briscoe, CBS Sports senior writer, is with us. Are a couple more quotes will get to if you're watching on Jaguars dot com. The Hall of Fame is an exclusive fraternity that follows a Tacit code of conduct, which foster's respect and brotherhood between its members.

He later went on to say, resorting to underhanded tactics like targeting a Hall of Famer and hyping a one game matchup to bolster nominees Merit, as some of Tony's supporters have done, undermines the integrity of the Hall's election process. There's plenty more than that. That's all we'll get to here. But Pete, what happened to the respect and brotherhood and the Tacit code of conduct? Yeah, and that's the most

amazing thing. About that because person guys in the Hall of Fame that didn't get along, they never got along, and yet when they get into the Hall of Fame together their their brotherhood. It's a brotherhood. You put the jacket on your part of the brotherhood, you sign your name h O F. You make a ton of money. But you know, brag every brag on everybody, boast them all up, boost them all up. And what happened. He's not even in yet and he's taking jobs at I

just don't get it. Just it doesn't make any sense. And I think they have talked and I think they'll fix it, but that was just a bad look for Bruce. I would have a hard time talking with Bruce if I'm Tony, and I may talk and make it look good on face value, but I mean if I'm Tony, well, now you know what he really You're never gonna forget that. You don't forget that, just like you don't forget how

you dominated them. You don't. There's some things forgotten. You know what Tony should have said long he should have said, you know what, Bruce, you you were the defensive player that year, that year and you're about number four on my list the guys if I had to rank them in terms of gave me, gave me the most trouble, because what Mike McCrary was number one? Absolutely Tony said that for years. Yeah, so I don't know, I just it's just it's weird. And then anybody says, oh, it

was one game. Well, he did dominate him again at the second time he played him, by the way, just that's why I was. That was the next year. And Bruce thinking that that he's the only guy that Tony dominated. I mean, Pete, you remember the very first game that Tony played, and you remember it was against the Green Bay Packers and Sean he crushed him, crushed him. Jason

Taylor one dominated. The best one is that Derrick Thomas one though, when Derrick Thomas I think had seven sacks that the week before he played you guys, and and and Phil Simms always tells this story. And Simms was at the pre production meeting and pre you know, he says, hey, Tom, how are you gonna handle Derrick Thomas? And he goes, my guy, and he stoned them. He didn't near him, dominated him. And so yeah, he dominated a bunch of really good players. And and he looked you practice against

him every day great? I know it was that we've I've never have been I've never I've been around somebody that out of the gate gave me fits as a veteran. Never, there's never, there's never been a rookie that I went against it. I was like, SEEZ you kidding me? Hi, I didn't have an answer. The only one that I think that I would even compare to Tony was John Ogden, Like,

right out of the gate, he was great long. I mean, obviously he was playing guard that very first time, but then the first time that he played a tackle one against him and it was one of those things where you just you didn't know what was gonna work. And with Tony it was the same way in practice. Peter's like, God, I don't know what to do. You know, you didn't you didn't have anything that you felt good about that

you could beat him with. And then the intensity that he played with in the finish that he played with was so far above And it's so disappointed that Bruce would mention a Will Woolford or a Richmond Webb or a Bruce Armstrong along the same lines of BASSELLI. I mean Pete. You watched those guys. I played against those guys.

That's not the same category. No, they're not that Tony's in the category was Ogden and Walter Jones and Anthony and Junio's and and the great you know, he's better than pay he was better than Pace and Pace, he's better than Willie rof and they both went in before him. Even the category the elitied lead the other thing to like, oh, he left handed quarterback wasn't protecting the backside? Well, Anthony Unio is blocked for boomers science and he didn't protect

the backside either. I mean, you know, it's ridiculous. And by the way, the blocking schemes were entirely different back then. Those guys were man up one on one situations where they were in past protecting. They didn't get a lot of help. But including in that playoff game. There wasn't a lot of help for Tony in that playoff game. Entirely give balls out now too. It wasn't seven step drops like it is back and they didn't give give

Tony any help. I mean, and whether you had a left handed quarterback or not, you were facing the most athletic pass rusher of every team. Let's say it's still Bruce Smith lining up against you on that side, then Bruce, why don't you on the other side, Bruce, you know it was Bruce is saying that maybe that if Tony had gone against Phil Hanson, maybe it would have been tougher for Mark Burnell on the other side. By the way,

he did get a hit. I think he got a half sacked the lext time they played, and I went back and actually rewatched that game. He got it on the guard. He slanted inside on the garden. The guard didn't put a block up, so he didn't get it on Tony either. That's pete. It's just a shame that.

I mean, Look, Bruce Smith is a great player, great player, I mean arguably one of the top ten defensive players ever to play the game, with longevity, performance to height, the height of his level of playing, and to do this it's just a bad look. It's a bad look, and I think it it causes some concern. And in my eyes, that is he okay, Is Bruce okay? When I say that, yeah, I mean because you know what, this is not something that happens every day. Coming from

a Hall of fame, his mouth. Is he okay? Because this isn't something that somebody that's okay would say. And what what was the impetus for it? Did somebody ask him about it? Or he just put it on his Instagram? Now he put it on his Instagram. Mean it's it's this is this is totally prepared. I mean, reviewed multiple pages on Instagram. Pete. This isn't something that's a knee jerk reaction to anything. This is something that he thought out or somebody helped him create or or what I mean.

I don't know, but I can tell you this man he saw he's salty, salty about that, performed doubt about that. Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior writer with us, Well, we have you, Pete, last couple of minutes with you here. What is your We haven't seen you around here in a few minutes. So what's the outside perception of what

the Jags have done this offseason so far? By the way, I was going to come at one point for minicamp work during the t A S, but there was a little glitch in the plan and I'll tell you about it at a different time. Um, Let's say, uh I, what did they say hello to the quarterback, and it might not have been a possibility to say that, but um so anyway, so uh yeah, I I look, I'm excited about watching this team next year. I'm a big believer in the quarterback. I think what we saw against

in he was just a precursor what's gonna happen. He's gonna be a big time player and I think the improvement on the offensive line will help him. You know, I think Kirk is gonna be much better than people give him credit for. Everybody pings the contract. Who cares guys get paid, and he's gonna be a seventy five catch guy for them. And Sean Jefferson, I've known him for years. He was the wide receivers coach in Arizona. He raves about the kid. He said he owned the room.

Think about that. Hopkins was in the room and it was Kirk who owned it, and that tells you a lot about Christian Kirk. So I and I think defensively they're gonna be really good. I mean, I don't know if they'll be great rush in the past or next year. It might have you know, it depends on what Walker is and they're gonna play him standing up and he's gonna play a rush linebacker, which he hasn't done much of, and he doesn't have that sudden issue like usually in

that position. A going to be an adjustment for him. But I think defensively, they have talent, so they're gonna be better. How much better to be determined? Hey, Pete, just one more question here. One of the things that we obviously love here, me and JP and and people that have been around this team for the last couple of years has been the change in the coaching staff, obviously and the job that Doug Peterson has done with

his coaching staff. I mean I'm talking quality and one guy that I want to point to in particular, because the more I see, the more I like his defensive coordinator might called Well. I love how he handles himself. I love how he answers questions. I mean there's just sometimes you just get a feel for a guy, and that the way that he answers questions. You sit there and you go, he's a guy that's gonna be able to have a really good pulse on his room. What do you think of might call Well. I love him.

I think he's going to be a star in the profession and heard that for a long time from guys in this league and being over and I go to Tampa a lot, and I've known those coaches over there for a while. They raved about him, and you know, rightfully, so he gets it. He's played in the league. He understands what it takes. But he's smart. He's gonna be aggressive,

and I love that. I love the idea that now I do want to see how those corners play in that system, because you remember, in that system, you play a lot of man and when you look at the at the you know, Jaguars corners, you wouldn't ideally say they're all man cover corners. If he particularly, Campbell played much better when he didn't play as much BAND last year. No, I think he can do it. So it'll be an adjustment, but I'm bullish on my call. But I think he's

gonna be a head coach in the league. And I think they have themselves a really good, bright defensive mind. I think the staff is good and it's the pros pro staff. I mean, it's it's an NFL staff, and I think Doug. It starts with Doug. Doug is a pro. He gets it. He played in the league. He understands what it takes. I'm gonna get around and call Mr Softie for giving him the rest of mini camp off. But I mean, doesn't that I think he's done a

great job. Pete. You wouldn't let anybody slide on that one. No, of course not. By the way, before you go, JP, you'll appreciate this. And I know Logs well too. I was leaving for from the draft in Vegas and I get to have My flight was the late twenty four hours. It was red eye. Finally get there. I'm sitting there and I see the big giant standing over at the Mrs Fields Cooks. Wasn't Mrs Field's cookie thing getting about

twelve a bucket of cookies or something? I know, jeezus, the Sellen you gotta get shape for the wall same ceremony. What the hell are you doing? I knew you were gonna. I knew that that was where you were going on that I just for some reason I knew it was the Sally at the cookie stand. Of course, you know it, right.

I mean, it wasn't like Jeff. You know, when you want to have a cookie to get the taste out, you know, you wanna have something sweet after meal or something he had like a I mean it had to be like ten of them, twelve of them in there of course, unbelievable heat. We will see you in training camp. Enjoy your summer, and if we don't see you before, you'll see me in camp before. Can't. So that's one

of my first stops. I'm the come to Jacksonville because they start early, and then I will be in Canton for a couple of days as well. Thanks for the time, Pete. All right, guys, take care. CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Briscoe with us. We're back in a moment. We'll take a live look at the construction of the Football Performance Center, now the Miller Electric Center outside of the Bank, and

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That is Jaguars owners shod Con Monday. The announcement of the Miller Electric Center. The naming right steel announced Monday in a press conference. Just outside the construction footprint Welcome back to It's Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick with Jeff Flagman and a look outside. If you're watching on Jaguars dot com or Jack's social media, a live look at the construction. There is steel going up, continues to mean changes by the hour. Really logs us to see

this thing continue to grow. They keep pouring some concrete they're doing. The walls have been there for a little while. Some of the walls, Uh, the elevator shafts, the stairwells are there. The big concrete. It's taller than I thought it was going to be. I'll be honest with you, Yeah, I agree with you. I wasn't kind of expecting that to have that kind of profile going up. But it

looks fantastic. It's gonna be an amazing facility. And the great thing is is that they still have room to grow, you know, because there's quite a bit of land that's still around that and parking lots that at some point. Look, if you want to do even expand it even further, that you could do that. The pace that they're working at is unbelievable. I mean, there is I don't know exactly. I mean, they might be going however many days or ever how many hours a day, but sometimes it seems

like that they just don't quit. It does, right, I mean, And it was nice to see at that event on Monday, the construction workers on site took the lunch break. They had the lunch under the tent right there. That which is pretty cool. Good to hang out with some of those people on Monday. It's in your agree it. Miller has been in Jacksonville since ninety eight, now over three thousand employees in a nationwide company based in Jacksonville. Jack's

president Mark Lamping was on the days. Mayor Lenny Curry, Henry Brown, the Miller's CEO, council President Sam Newby, Trent Bulky, and Doug Peterson part of the press conference as well, and then Mark Lamping joined the group on Jack's Drive Time earlier this week on Tuesday, discussing the construction progress. The progress is visible literally every day, hour by hour.

Great collection of subcontractors are performing the work, really hard workers on site, and uh, you know, it's one of those things where you you have to get it done on time, you know. So we have to absolutely have to be complete by the end of June next year, about a year from now, so that when the team comes back for training camp that can move right into the new facility. To be very disruptive for them to have to do that as it gets closer to the season or even in in the middle of the season.

The full conversation with Mark Lamping available on the archive of Jags Drive Time that's on Jack's social media from Tuesday or on Jaguars dot com. Plenty to discuss with him with the shipyards coming up and the construction of course right here, and a lot of things happening with the football team, and I think the one thing that Mark talked about about the timeliness, Okay, I gotta be done by June of next year. But the one thing that is not being sacrificed is the quality of the work.

And that's not easy to do. And that's why when Mark's talking about what a great collection of subcontractors and how incredibly hard they're working. Yeah, you can see it. I mean, every day you see progress and that's that's the impressive part. And I just can't wait to see

this facility come to fruition. We've had the the experience and the opportunity to see many other NFL teams facility, you know, the notable ones, the Vikings, the Ravens, the Atlanta Falcons, going way back, there were one of the first ones that actually him up with this concept of this big, giant facility on a lot of acreage that they have. And now the Jaguars are going to be

right in the mix. And I know it's not really an arms race in the National Football League because but I mean, the reality is jp is that the NFL now recruiting is involved because sometimes for years many people said, oh, it's about the money, It's only about the money. Well, it is about the money. A lot of times money is equal. So when money is equal, if you have a facility like this and you're competing against the team that doesn't, maybe that sways a free agent to come

in your way. So from that aspect of it, the arms race does exist in the NFL for good reason. Let's go around the National Football League a few notable storylines NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will testify at a US House Committee on Oversight and Reform hearing next week. You will testify virtually. Washington owner Dan Snyder declined to be interviewed, imagine testify. Congress launched an investigation into the Washington workplace misconduct in October last year after the League did not

release a report on the independent probe. Snyder, of course stepped away from day to day business of the club, but the lack of a written report prompted that congressional inquiry. Something to watch. Does does the Congressional inquiry press further to get Daniel Snyder to testify? But the interesting thing for me is the report that came out not that long ago about about Dan Snyder skimming off of the top before allowing that percentage to pass into the pool

that's shared by other owners. That to me is the thing to watch. The workplace environment absolutely something that's important, But when you violate the trust of those who you work with, that can create what in essence, would be

the death penalty for his ownership in Washington. Something to watch the next few months ahead, the Steelers made mink of Fitzpatrick the highest paid safety in Laite history logs big money four year extension worth more than seventy three million dollars according to Ian rampat Word of NFL Network, thirty six million of that guaranteed. It's an average of just over eighteen million per season. It's a great player.

And uh, they traded. If you compare what the what the Pittsburgh Steelers gave up to get him, and compare that to what the Seahawks gave up to get jamal Um the safety from the Jets. From the Jets. Okay, Adams, Adams, thank you. Okay, you compare with each team gave up, you'll understand why the Pittsburg Steelers have been kind of the standard of the way to do business. They didn't overpay for a guy like men of Fitzpatrick. They gave

one draft pick away, that was it. And how many did they give up for Jama A whole lot and there wasn't a contract attached to it. They had to pay him. Yeah. So uh. Colts starting safety Carry Willis is retiring after three NFL seasons. He was a fourth round pick by the Colts in nineteen played fourteen games that year, nine starts, fourteen starts in ten starts last season, he had about four career interceptions. He said he's devoting the remainder of his life to further the advancement of

the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So he's getting out of football three years in and moving on with life. Good for him. In life, you follow your passion. That that's your passion, go for it. And that takes a lot of courage to do that, because I mean, if you're walking, stepping away from millions of dollars of potential income to follow your calling, that calling is loud. I give him credit. Takes courage, no doubt, because it's you can't come back. Tough to come back at least back. Yeah, but it's

tough come back. I mean it's not like, uh, you're leaving the PGA to go play this other tournament. I'm trying to come back. They may not come back. Okay, this is uh. The gospel is not as an l I V. I guess I'll do it for our look around at National Football League. We mentioned this earlier. It's our last show. We'll be back until we won't be back until the last week of July. That's July, Yes, first day, Yes, and we'll have a full slotm uh, a lotment of shows that week as training camp begin.

So I'm looking forward to training camp this year in in the Hall of Fame game and and can't wait for for Tony Boselli's induction into the Hall of Fame and the hell of Bruce Smith. It's gonna be a fantastic moment and well deserved and very excited to be able to witness the induction ceremony. And I can't wait. It's gonna be fun. Man, looking forward to that, looking forward to a little time down and then get back at it. Here we go, late July, Jack our football,

rock and roll. Let's go, let's do it. Let's go. Let's win some guys, go, let's win some football. W Let's get some ws. Get your tickets now Jaguars dot Com slash tickets. I think I got him. You might want to find out check your account. I need to talk to Jim. Thanks to Shatt Griffin, Jaguars cornerback and CBS Sports senior writer, Pete Brisco, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaverer for Jeff Logoman, I'm JP Shadrick. We will catch you

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