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J.P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli and Jeff Lageman take a look at the Jaguars' 2018 season on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Ashley HomeStore.

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Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football touchdown Jackonville Touchdown Path from the Mighty Cardinal. It is Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hours and now Anxious Leo waiting induction into the Meat and Bourbon Hall of Fame. J P. Sha. It's a long list of finalists at this table. At least welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick. Jeff Lageman is back, Flash, what's up man? It's all good man, It's all good, and it's a good week to be

back because there's so much going on in the football world. Yes, and we're gonna get into something. I try to I try to not get over nundated with Super Bowl media week, just because it just gets to be so much and it kind of take away from the sparkle of the game a little bit when you just kind of get tired of all the coverage. So I try to stay away from it all week and then I just get in front of the TV on Sunday and I eat

it up. I turned on the pregame show at whenever it starts one o'clock, and now I have it on all day. I'm not gonna do that? Is that like that? It's Super Bowl Sunday, give me, give me an hour of pregame like normal, and then let me get to the game. Here's what we're getting to the ship. I gotta keep apparently, so keep your routine. Here's what's coming up on our show today, super Bowl Week. We'll discuss some of the game coming up Sunday. Hall of Fame

vote that's coming up Saturday, but sally watch well. Here from Tony Boselli coming up. He'll be on radio road out of Miami, and that we'll hear from Ashlon Sullivan and John Osier as well. It's coming up a little bit later and a special guest, Mark Brunell, schedule to join the folks down in South Beach to do also. So I will hear a lot about Tony Boselli's um candidacy for the Hall of Fame. He's in the fifteen finalists.

That will be throughout the show today. Let's rewind a little bit for the Jaguars, though, we're gonna hear about Tony all day and we'll get to him later. The Jaguars. Since we've last spoken, you and I have hired an offensive coordinator, Jay Gruden, former Washington Redskins head coach, former Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator before that for a few years, and here he comes to Jacksonville. What do you think. Well, first foremost, I liked the hire just because he's got

a lot of experience. And when Jay was was the offensive coordinator in Cincinnati, and even when he was the head coach in Washington, he was always viewed as one of the better coordinators in the National Football League, one of the better play callers in the National Football League. And this was was right along the lines of kind of what I was expecting, and I made mention of when we were talking about the type of candidate that the Jaguar Ours could get. My opinion was that it

would take. It was gonna take somebody that has kind of been there and done that and wasn't looking for the next step up for the next job to take to make them end up having a better job in

the future. And j fits that bill and he's a good coach, and uh, he's a bright offensive mind, and and I'm looking forward to seeing what his opinion is once he comes in here, because I think there's a lot of evaluation that's gonna be coming up when he walks in the door, and his opinion is gonna hold a lot of weight when it comes to a lot of important decisions that are gonna be happening with his organization offensively, namely under center, who's gonna have the reins

at quarterback number one exactly? And there's other there's other guys that I think he's gonna be able to have some input on, whether it be you know, the offensive line or wide receivers running back, what I mean, whatever

it is. I mean, he's the offensive coordinator, and I'm sure that there's gonna be some tweaks and maybe an adjustment here or there, and I don't think anything major, but maybe some subtle tweaks because you know, when an offensive coordinator comes in, he likes to have a comfort level with some of those that are around him. And obviously a lot of the staff that is here are

going to be staying. But there might be one or two positions, because there are some opening still, but there might be one or two positions to where Jay has a comfort level with somebody that will help him part of his inner circle, whatever you wanna call it. That he feels real comfortable with and and I'm sure that they will bring them in with Jay to work with Jay and and make the situation better for him. Quarterback coach still out there looming as well. See what they

do say. And you know, and as Doug said, you know, they talked about they still got to work through. Would Jay be the offensive coordinator slash quarterbacks coach? Um? I would expect them to hire somebody. I don't necessarily expect them to hire somebody to be strictly a quarterbacks coach. It could happen, but they also could look at maybe supplementing another position with that coach position, other so they

don't have to have a quarterback coach. Maybe they bring in, you know, an extra offensive line coach or extra offensive assistant just in general. You know. So I don't know, but he could, but I don't expect that to happen. I mean typically, I mean once you once you have a certain number on your staff, I mean that's there's a reason why you have that number. You have a belief that it takes that many people to be able to do the job on one side of the ball

or the other. The point is, I guess there's no limit on how many you can have or not have, right, I mean the twelve if you, if you, I mean that's that's the unity, and that most teams aren't like the Patriots. The Patriots are very unique. You know, they have And I understand why Bill Belichick does that. Bill wants to have as few voices as possible in the player's ear because he believes that the less voices that are in somebody's ear, it creates more clarity for the players.

And he's probably right in a lot of instant is. But with some of the changes in football and the the expanding staff, a lot of coaches, head coaches like to have bigger staff because there's always a lot of change in the National Football League. And so let's say that you lose somebody to be a coordinator for another team. Well, okay, we lost so and so he took a job to be a coordinator another team. We had an assistant position coach. He can just move right up into that position that

was vacated by this guy who got an advancement. So there's a little bit of that philosophy. But I'm a big I would probably be more along the lines of what Belichick believes in having less coaches and less voices for the players to have more clarity. Well, it helps when you have a quarterback in an offense that's been going at it for darn near twenty years. Well, you know, yeah, it helps. There's no doubt to have the goat. But at the same token, Belichick has one without the goat too.

Do you think that castle, Jimmy Garoppo, I mean, I know there's a limited Yeah, say that again. They want to have missed They won eleven, they missed the playoffs, the playoffs. You think we'd be happy with when eleven games and missing the playoffs around here? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, we'll take it any day the way. Super Bowl week we'll hear from Tony Boselli and them coming up down in Miami, Ashland. Sullivan's down there, John Osan as well. Um, a little thought about the the

game this week. I mean, this is this matchups fun to watch Chiefs forty Niners. I know you're not one. You're just ready to watch the game on Sunday. This matchups, Well, let me kind of correct a little bit. I don't watch a lot of TV the Super Bowl week. I still keep up with reading and clips and kind of what's going on at the super Bowl or during the week.

But I'm not one of those people that's just gonna sit in front of the TV and then just listen to a million different people give an opinion over and over about a thing. That's not what I'm gonna do. But when there's news that comes out of the Super Bowl, I'm gonna I'm gonna be able to get it. I'm gonna read it, and I'm gonna even do more research into some of the things that I think are pretty interesting and I but I think to talk about the game itself, it's I think this is a great match up.

I think it's a great matchup, and I hope that one thing doesn't happen. And then a lot of times in the Super Bowl, I call it the magnification of mistakes and that everybody expects as when you're in a Super Bowl and you're a team and a Super Bowl player coach everything. You want everything to go so perfect, and when something goes wrong a lot of times that leads to another mistake, that leads to another mistake, that leads to another mistake, and then before you know it,

it's a butt kicking or it's a lopsided game. Because you don't overreact to those things in the regular season. Hey, let's just keep fighting at sixty minute game, no big deal. But the added pressure of it being a Super Bowl and the pressures of having that perfect game and we can't mess this up. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. A lot of times, one small mistake and it might be on on a scale of one to a hundred as far as mistakes go, it might be a ten.

But because it's during the Super Bowl, you make it feel like it's a thirty five or forty, and then that ends up messing you up, you know, and plays down the road. So you hope that that doesn't happen. And uh, with with the coaches in the game, with with Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan, they've been in a big game before. Hopefully the likelihood of that happening is small. That was my next point was Andy Reid's been in this game before with a different organization. Of course, did

not win. It was right here in Jacksonville, UM, but he's been at this for so long and in playoff games and everything kind of understands it. Shanahan I'm rooting for him, was in it. I'm I'm rooting for Andy Reid. I'm gonna tell you that right now. And Well Shanahan was Remember him was offensive coordinator in Atlanta when they had the huge leading loss to the Patriot and which you know a lot of the people penn the loss on Kyle Shanahan's for some of the play calling that

he had offensively. If he chose to run the ball there at the end of the ball game, more than

likely that Lanta Falcons would be both champs. And Kyle Shanahan doesn't have that kind of of backing though that Andy Reid has I said this before that you can go and pull anybody that has ever worked for Andy Reid, even people that he has fired, including Bob Sutton, who was his defensive coordinator last year, who Andy Reid just recently came out and lauded and said, hey, Bob something was a big part of what we are doing here now because he helped build the foundation. How many coaches

do that. And if you asked Bob Sutton about Andy Reid and he got fired, he would not say a bad word about Andrew. That's what Andy Reid is there there are no people in the National Football League that have anything bad to say about Andy Reid, because there are so many good things to say about Andy Reid. And he's been through a lot in his NFL career, and he is a purely a football coach and uh, and he's wired for football. And there's a lot of people that out they are out there that are rooting

for him, and I'm one of them. Uh. And I don't have any connection with Andy Reid. I just know a lot of people that have worked for Andy Reid and people that played for Andy Reid, and the love and affection that they have for Andy Reid is very apparent. And so you're you naturally root for somebody Like that quarterback matchup Patrick Mahomes Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, and it's clear that Mahomes is the better player. I mean, it's it

is what it is. But Garoppolo is capable. He has a more than capable run game to support him, and he has a more than capable defense to support him as well. I'm just curious how long that defense can keep up with Kansas Cities guys offense, because they've got a track team around Mahomes and then if you cover him, then he can run forward too well. Who knows. The

biggest thing is is that? And I think Robert Salez is I mean this, This has to be a big game on his end, and the back end has to play really well because Ken's City is good enough to where sometimes no matter how good you play up front, Patrick Mahomes can make you pay in the back end even though you're playing really well up front. That that's that's how good Patrick Mahomes is. That's the difference between

Patrick Mahomes and Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo, you play well up front, you're probably gonna end up playing very well against Jimmy Garoppolo. Against Patrick Mahomes, you play really well up front, it doesn't mean you're gonna play really well against Kan City and Patrick Mahomes. That's the difference. That's the two. That's probably the thing that separates those two quarterbacks and Mahomes and carry a team on its back. He's that good. Putting your head on Jaguars Happy Hour.

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forget that it's your money. All loan subject to approval, insured by m c U A Yeah, Miami, Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Jeff Lagman Smith, The pan Uh Jaguars Happy Our rolls along Super Bowl Week. The game is in Miami, South Florida this year. Saturday, the Hall of Fame voting will go on for the UH the fifteen finalists, including Tony Boselli. Um, we're gonna go down to South Beach now Radio Row. That's the Miami Beach Convention Center, and we have got a foursome

standing by as Sullivan, John O. We're live here. Radio Row's close, Thank goodness, Miami Beach Convention Center. We had good we had a good like off the that was a good like a good podcast. The question was who would it be cool to see walking through Radio Row? Because Tony's not can't come up with anybody. He'd be

over athletes. I've got a list of about a hundred people that would impress me if I saw like you would be like when you say impressed that you'd go ask for Like, no, I'm not gonna ask for an autograph at one level, not until they got out in the parking lot and you've run and follow. But I think, like you see Hall of Famers, football players, you know all that stuff, walk through it, okay, But like if a famous actor walk through, I would think that's cool, Like, hey,

there's Russell Craille, Kevin Costner, that's cool. I'm not gonna talk him and chase him down and all that stuff, but I think they'd be cool. Okay, Yeah, I mean I guess, all right, well we're different. I was team j Loo, but that's just me. Yeah, so i'd run and crime why but not Shakira. Do you like her music? Yeah? I think she's awesome. So she's doing the half yea, she sinks Jennifer Lopez. Really, I've seen her act. But I have bought an album sciences they still call them albums.

They don't do albums anymore. But how about CDs? Do they do CDs? No tracks? Yeah? The old guy in the group there is you know she's doing the halftime show. Oh,

I'm aware. And so one of the perks of doing the sidelines for Westwood One is one of our producers helps get the uh sideline all the he's an engineer, gets everything set up and so he go he watches the rehearsal the day before, and so he always comes to us and says, Okay, this is where they're gonna come out, this is we're gonna end up, this is how close And so we get musician where when Lady

Gaga performed a few years ago. Remember she dumped. I was from media right next to each other when she got out and walked next to her issues finishing, and you were in tears. So I will I will get, I will get from me to you. I guarantee you somehow. To Jennifer Lopus, please tell her I say hello. All right, Tony Boselli, Mark on radio wrote Mark, I know you're here for a reason, So do tell Legends Yes, UM for two reasons. One to see the big lug get

in UM and too so UH. The NFL six years ago started UH an organization out of the NFL office called the Legends Community. It's our alumni group. And so every year at the Super Bowl and at the Combined Draft, UM we host this year will probably have four or former players come through and with the Legends Lounge, I'll

be there, Tony will be there. It's a safe place for former players to go, free food for drinks, no media, just a place to hang out, hang out, reconnect with former teammates and UH, guys that you played with, guys you played against. We've been doing it for about six years now and and it's great to see guys that played in the seventies or eighties. Uh, reconnect with someone that they played against, you know, And and uh, it's

a lot of fun. The stories and the camaraderie. The thing you miss the most, miss most about the game. It's it's the it is that camaraderie. And uh, and you get to see guys relive that to a degree. Um. And so it's a lot of fun. So we'll have that tonight, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you know. And and it's a good thing. It's fun. It is fun, but it's some sort of danger. Yeah, we're in my hand. Yes, on a serious note, here's what I want to because I know we don't have that long with Mark, no

things to do. You give each other grief all the time, but it pretend Tony's not here, which tell me what, Uh, you know what it's it's long overdue. It's well deserved, you know. And you know, I'm on Twitter and I see all these you know, people saying this about Tony Boselli. He was the best at this, and you know, you look at all the clips and Bruce Smith talks. I got to see it firsthand. I was on I was in the huddle. It's on the fields in the locker room,

don't listen to this. I got to experience really the greatness day in and day out, the leadership, the work ethic, how he played, how he approached the game on the field, off the field. So I mean, I know it better than anybody, and I know how deserving he is. And it's going to happen at some point. I really wanted to happen this weekend because I can't take this anymore. Of him not getting in. It drives me. I know he gets nervous. I do too, but again it's it's

it's uh, it's deserving. The Hall of Fame is for players who were rate a Tony BASSELLI was a great player. Okay, Tony, you can come back into the room. Now he's getting emotional because that's what he does. Yeah, I'm taking a I'm taking a new approach this year though. Okay, so for the last few years, this is the best. The last few years approach. Now, our our approaches we flipped. So the last three or four or five, however many years we've been doing this, I have been mr positive.

Especially that happened last year. I was on it's gonna happen, Tony I'm telling you, in my gut, feel it in my gut. I know what's happening, you know, I just I just know what I can't I can't tell you how strongly I feel about this. I was felt so good about it, and then it doesn't happen. And then as soon as it didn't happen, the first thing out of Tony's mouth when he gets off the phone, Yeah, so much for your gut. Now, So this year I'm changing up. Okay, I am Mr Negative. Okay, we'll have

to wait till next year because this isn't happy. Okay. I don't trust the voters. I hate them all. They all suck, you know, But it's not happening. We'll be in Vegas. We'll be in Vegas next year's and maybe it'll happen then. But I'm Mr. Negative. First of all, that's Vegas. It's not you can go to Vegas Vegas. I gotta stay out of Vegas now. Vegas is dangerous. You need a safe place there. I think a legends

la Vegas. I think I've told like I've talked, been on the radio road and I said super Bowl in Vegas like eight times today. You know they're all looking at you. Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to tell you. Guys, I don't talk about that. I don't think we have. I mean, I've been on the show with you guys separately a lot, but it's not every day we get to gist together. What a treat um, you'll be invoiced. It is a treat Uh. I ain't paying ums, by the way, we never pay any for any help. This

is for the Jaguars, um. Mark, tell me from your perspective, maybe your best Besselli story on the field, maybe a game. You remember anything that the fans maybe don't hear all the time. You couldn't. I've been sitting here for an hour. You couldn't asked me to think about that before I need time, was busy talking to Sally. So I'll tell you if i'll tell you my uh my favorite. You

hold off, I'll tell you until five I go. I'm gonna tell you because Mark, it's about because it goes to the whole Legends thing, the Legends line and what they're trying to do. And it's fun this week because you get around a lot of guys try to replicate

that comradery, that locker room stuff. But like my favorite memories about playing with Mark were, yeah, the games, and I can tell stories of things that happened in the games and crazy things, but like the trade, like the kind of the schedule, like you got into and the fun things like back then were you roomed with somebody. Now players have their own rooms. You can have your own room. Back when we played, but you had to pay for your own room. Neither of us were gonna

pay for anither right now, and that's not happening. So we roomed together, and I think back like the fun, like we'd go to dinner the same time, pretty much the whole time. You play again and again to the same we go to the same not the first year. We don't like each other, first year, second year. Yeah,

we go to the same restaurant home every year. Every week on the road, we had the same routine and part one of my favorite things the routine was at night, like we get over everyone you know, you bed check and Mark and I were at eleven o'clock on Saturday, turn up. That's that was later we turned on a Saturday Saturday night line and we had a tradition before every home game. Now every I mean every whole more road game. We would watch Saturday Night Live. Didn't miss it,

did not miss it. Every one. Absolutely, he would fall asleep. I had to finish it. I had to watch the whole thing go like twelve thirty whatever time I'd fall asleep, or on midnight because you I had a trouble sleeping anyways, and I'd be up at the crack of night and so um. But we'd watched Saturday Night Live and we'd laugh and joke and then we'd be telling I mean, and so that was during good Saturday light. That was

will Ferrella great and so fun. Just little things like that, like you don't get it, like like grown men hanging out and watching and laughing and then go and playing the game. Those are this thing. It was really the any other situation he would be frowned upon. Yeah, yeah, questioned question. For sure. I think it probably back then when we were you know, playing for uh the Jaguars, it was probably the only two hours of enjoyment we had the whole week. But the only time you're allowed

to last come in and hang out. Hey what's on? If Tom's listening, He's like, That's why Bruneill never want a Super Bowl he's watching. He might have find us if it found out totally the SNL fine. Tom was great, Tony Um. The memories every time the memories are are off the field stuff, and uh it's locker room, it's the weight room. It's just you know, the meals. On the field, he was all business. I mean, he didn't didn't say a lot. He competed. I used to love

it when getting fights and he talked trash. Um. I think the money Night game against you know, Jason Taylor saying, you know, come on, and that was pretty cool. I I saw that, honestly, and maybe I just don't remember. And on the field, uh story where he said sorry because he just kicked everybody's But every time he went out there, you know, it's the same thing. And he wasn't getting boring at all. He used to He used to cuss at me when I'd run out of bounds

on his side and get a sack. He would he would amen, he would cuss me out because because we'd roll out to the left and you know, instead of throwing it away, I'd stepped, I'd step out of bounds before the line of scrimmage, which, as you know, is a sack to his side, and so I'll give you a perfect one time. He said, yeah, one time, he said, he said, I ran at about he said, you're costing me the holiday. That's why we're here. Five years later, so we're playing Seattle. It's on that run and uh,

Michael McCarry was the right end. He end up going to Baltimore. So I played him. I played fifteen time, one of the best players when we played, and uh, and I knew it was a tough match and we're playing, going about it. And at the end of the day, I look at the statue and he has three sacks and I'm like, what, Like, I remember one he got a good bull rush, the pocket collapse, Marcus trying to you know, had to hold it for a second. And

it was allegitately Michael Curry beat me. He was a good play by him, And okay, fine, whatever, And I'm like, when did you get two other sacks? And then I'll go back and I look at it. Well, on a naked naked bootleg, instead of throwing it away, Brunel runs out of bounds one yard behind the line of scrimmage. It would have hurt my rating sack because McCarry was the closest one, like okay, and then the next one I remember, I had stone Michael McCray on the line

of scrimmage. He's running around there like he does, trying to find somebody, can't find anybody, and instead up again throwing away. He tries to run up into the line of scrimmage and gets tackled for no gain and the hell that's a sack. And I'm like, I'm like, you're killing me, man. I mean, he gave up three sacks

that day. You were terrible killing me. But my favorite story about Market is as a player is on the field, there was very few guys as tough physically as Mark and and what epitomizes in my memory, I don't know.

While I remember we're playing in Baltimore Ravens and they had a safety Eric Turner, I think his name was strong safety and we're blocking and they bring a blitz blitz from the secondary and Mark's hanging in there and I'm blocking my guy and he's kind of trying to move to the left a little bit to buy time because he knows that the free safety strong safety is coming.

And it's one of those throws where he's throwing it, and as he's throwing it, Eric Turner's crown of his helmet he is on his chin, driving him to the ground and I could hear like the air like leave his body and I and I'm blocking my gun. I turned around. The ball's gone, probably completed, and I looked down and he is just looking up at me with his eyes wide open. And I'm like, is he dead because he's not moving, and I'm like, brute. He just looks at me and he's not moving. So I helped

him up. Comes back in the huddle. He's like barely sit there and he's trying to call the play and he can't call the play. He's like just sitting there as we call time out and I'm like, yeah, I'm like he's done. I'm like someone, you know, here comes some whoever the backup was then, I don't remember it was. And I'm like, great, we have the backup now, you know, to be harder. And all of a sudden, here comes

eight jogging back and like nothing had happened. And like so for people like it's different now because the quarterbacks are more protected. I mean back then, I mean they were they were free game back there, and this guy rarely missed the way where they missed the game. And I mean it's so that's always those memories, and those are the great things I can tell stories about a lot of guys we played with. It's the it's the bond that you have and Mark and I, you know,

rained friends all these years, the best of friends. And and because it's partly for a lot of reasons, but part of the history of them being together and doing something together and the memories around it on the field, locker room, traveling, all the things that uh happened around playing for the Jaguars. Let's not forget though, that this is your fault. He addressed that. Yeah, because he doesn't,

because he has on you half the time. He just sit back there and just like I'm like, throw the ball. How about you throw it before if we're gonna go. This isn't seven minute, This isn't seven Mississippi. Okay, hold on, hold on, here we go, here we go. Okay. Just think of because I was a left handed quarterback, how many times I saved him because I could see when he got beat and because I can move around, I can see when he whipped and I made somebody miss

got rid of the ball or ran you know. So the truth is this, now, never tell he never gave up a sack. Well, yeah, because I was there, I could move, I was I was Gardner Minshew before Gardner Minshew. No one was touching me. You know, like like tapes like coaches will put together of quarterbacks and like how to do something like like the whole thing. Mike McCarthy at these tapes of Joe Montana and how he taught

just drop backs and that's what you do. There was a tape of Mark of what not to do, because that's not true. Mark fans. Mark would like drop back and like whatever reason, it would be straight dropped back, but he did like a half roll to the left, like bru, what are you doing over here? He's like, what do you mean what? I didn't trusted you? Like, this is supposed to be my area. There's actually some truth to that. There's actually some truth. This is my

area and not your area. Go to your area, my area alone. But it's funny. It's it's funny because this week, you know, talking about the last couple of weeks, is there's so many mobile quarterbacks now and I I got asked, I said, what about Patrick Mahomes And he moves around and they said, you played with a guy like you played like Patrick Mahomes a bit before. You know, the guy asked you didn't that. I'm like, he didn't watch very much film. But I said, I said, you're right,

And what Mark did that? Back then? It was frowned upon. This was the crazy thing when he first came in. It was a frowned upon the way he played. And there was because everyone else was a statue. You drop back, you big tall guys sit in the pocket and today's football like Mark was really good Pro Bowl player when he played. I'm convinced he'd even be better now because

they would let him play. His ConTroll tendency, which is to run around by time, uses athletic ability something everybody said you couldn't do it like, you couldn't do Now it's like if you don't do it like, you can't play. So it's funny how airs change what's expected. The players changed. It's different game. It's a different game. And I thought it was to come back. Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. You might die out there, right even though were that

could be the Jaguar quarterback. We would be one in fifteen and that'd be the game that I play. Yeah, well, let's hope you're negative energy that Actually you know, I'm half kidding on that. I mean, uh, just it's time. It's it's deserving and uh, I mean it's Antony will speak to all of this, but uh, it'd be great for he and his family and his teammates, the fans.

We are something we can all celebrate him. One of the greatest days in Jaguar history was the day we got him, and this would be another great day in Jaguar history. Uh, the day he gets into the Hall of Fame. That day is coming. Hopefully it's in in three days from now. All right, thank you Mark for your time. All right, thank you, JP. Back to you in Jacksonville. Alright, Ashland Sullivan, John Osier, Tony Boselli, Mark Brunel. I'm sure you've heard some of those conver stations before. Logs.

Oh my god. Uh. It reminded me of the nineties, six seven, eight years back in the day when you had those two amigos hanging out together all the time, and they were they were the same, like grumpy old men they are now. It was the same way, but they were just a lot younger. But did it get too We'll hear from Peter King when we come back. We'll go back down to Miami as well more with Tony Busselli. I'm sure they'll discuss the his feelings going into the weekend as well. Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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Lynches this week, I said, please tell John. I mean, obviously his family is going to be here because of the Super Bowl, but please tell John not to me any plans not to do it. I mean, because you just don't know. Every year, when I go into that room, I write down the five people I think are going to get in, and I have never been correct at the end of the day because I'm just trying to make a guess like everybody else does. And um, and I think one of the things that becomes difficult is

that things change when you get in the room. Peter King, the legendary sports writer and the member of the selection committee. Jaguars Happy Hour continues, Jap Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman. He's been at this for a long time. With that room, he's been at it for a long time. And and the reality is is that we're talking about a finalist list, and everybody who is on the list is deserving to be there. And so there's definitely cases to be made for one over other people, but for the most part.

I mean, uh, throw all the names in a hat and then throw out five on the table, and they're all legitimate. And so there's a lot of deserving candidates right now. They're deserving on the final list, and there's also deserving candidates that are not on the way and at some point might be down the line it used to come. That's how it works. Let's go back to Radio Row at the Miami Beach Convention Center. Tony Boselli,

Ashland Sullivan, John Osier are standing by. Thanks guys, we're back live on Radio Row Miami Beach Conventions that are getting ready for Super Bowl fifty four. Thank you to Mark Brunell for joining us. It was story time. I was saying in break we should have a new segment on Jaguars dot Com just the two of you. Oh yeah, it'll be fun. People probably get tired of here in after a while. The stories. We could give our opinions. We can make fun of each other and say bad

things about each other. It'd be humbling stars, movie stars. He is Jlo. He didn't know who Jlo was. He thought she was an actress. She's first a musician. Well, she was first on that show. The dancer. That was our first thing. Jlo was the dancer on what was the show you know I'm talking about. Yeah, I can't yeh, that's right, name good good. But he isn't fat. He loves he loves movies and actors and get stuck. I just don't care speaking of Starstruck, but I'll say before

we go star go for it. It actually hit me because I asked the question about how Air has changed things. I mean, he would have been like the perfect He was good when we play. Were you imagine in this wide open spread offensive you know, we're mobile quarterbacks are promoted because that's what he There would have been more concepts designed around it. And I mean the guy ran like four or five. I mean he could fly. I

mean that's what I mean. And they like remember it was like the knock on him, keep him in the pocket before the knee injury. He would have been exactly what's wanted. Now. Yeah, it's interesting, all right, my question because we just talked about it before you went on the year. I'm fascinated by the new uh, the new strategy. Well, you know, and John, you've been around this whole thing with me the last three years. Leaving up. This is your four being a finalist, and it's always been year one.

I didn't even know what to expect. I was just happened to be the kind of thing. But human nature kicked in after that, Yeah it did. And like then I go back and forth, I'm gonna make it, I'm not gonna make it. And you're trying to talk to everyone, like I see a voter and I want to talk to him and like tell me, and you'd like live on. I'd like, like just hang on every word they're saying that, trying to read the time, Tea leaves and Tete, who'd you talk to? John? Who'd you talk to? You're like

trying to figure out is this a year? And then you get and it's like maddening. And so this year I'm coming into it. I'm like, you know what. And it was actually partly because I remember watching a thing of last year's you know, announcement, and I saw, uh, the video video of Ed Reid in his room, like now it looked different, like he knew he was getting in probably, but he was had people in there. He's like that he like he like loves cigars, smoking cigars.

There's like just hanging out and like people were laughing, there's like music, and I'm thinking that is so different because John was in my in the room I was in, like everyone's silent, intense and like the phone was right there, like it's like and it was miserable and it was awful. And I said, I'm not doing that this year. And so this year going in and I said, I'm getting in. I'm getting in the Hall of Fame, and I'm gonna

act like I'm getting in the Hall of Fame. And I'm not gonna try to like if I see a voter, if they're friends, all gonna say hi to him. But I'm not even ask them. I'm not gonna talk to them like it's unless they want to ask me a story or what do I think? And everything else, And and I'm gonna have positive thoughts and I'm gonna trying to visualize, like hey, this is happening. The knock on the door and in the room and John I'll be there again. I'm not gonna let people sit around. I'm

gonna we're gonna be laughing. We're like if I had to play music, I don't care what We're gonna enjoy I'll bring some games, bring some we'll play twister, and I mean, we'll do I'm really really good to my shoulder, my shoulders a move, but it's a good distraction. And so and I'm gonna like and someone says, well, and my wife said something leading in the week and when if you get we're not saying that when I when I get in, And so that's our whole family thing.

That's how we've been doing. Now. Is that gonna make me get in? Like? Can I like self will and self visualize myself to get again. No, I don't think that the forty eight voters are gonna decide. But what it will do is I'll enjoy this week more and I won't be stressed about it. And I'm gonna I'll still be nervous in the room, There's no doubt about it. But I'm gonna sit there and we're gonna enjoy it and have fun. And when the door knocks, we're all

gonna cheer and have a good time. There are times in that room where I feel more storry for g didn I do for you, because she lit Is she able to take your preps? Yeah? I think so. She's super positive listen. But as much as I'm gonna try to do this, like, it's still gonna be nerve wracking. But what I'm gonna try to do is like, hey, let's like we don't have to sit here pacing right

and listen. Every time my phone rings because people call, I'm gonna call because it's because they don't know any better. No one call and they don't know. Shack called, yeah, Shadow called. My son called one time, well, the one like here's the thing that always happens because they have that nowadays, they sell your cell phone number, so you have all these tele people call, and so you'll get like the phone ringing from I just don't answer it and uh and so that would be nerve racking, I mean,

because you can't change that. I mean, it is what it is. But I'm gonna try to enjoy it, and I'm gonna believe the best and we'll see what happens. A new positive Tony gotta love it shatter, I know you guys love that back like the old shatter, I mean the oldest, like the negative, like bad and angry, and it could come out, don't worry, it could come

out Saturday. Give it time don't work all right, back to you guys in Jacksonville very much, And uh, yeah, that's funny you bring up bringback the double shot because we got j P on the show. It didn't work. Funny. Yeah, it would have been a lot funnier if you noticed.

That's okay. It is an interesting dynamic though. I'm sure that room because from all reports and he said it right there, it's tight last year and there you know, the whole family's there and everybody's there, and it didn't happen. And now the approach, you know what, for mental health purposes, might be better that way that it's it's gonna be a fun time. Look, he's in a wonderful place. I mean, he's a he's a Hall of Fame finalist, and uh,

enjoy the ride, you know. So a lot of times they say it's not about ending, you know, your destination, it's about enjoying the ride along the way. And and look, he's got an incredible ride that he's enjoying right now. And at some point I believe he's gonna get in. Is it this year? I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball, because there's a lot of worthy candidates, and Tony is one of the worthy candidates, and I

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Or use five oh five as a gua Marley starters you love five oh five Southwestern. It's tough because what happens is, you know, you look at that list of fifteen and you tell me who doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. We're only allowed to get five in. And what happens is you have a couple of years like we just had where there's two or three first ballot Hall of Famers, so that only these a couple of slots. So you have build ups at certain positions. We had to build up, and it's been

We've got to get rid of it. At the offensive line. Tony Baselli deserves to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Alan Fanica deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Steve Hutchinson deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. The order sometime is tough to accept, but as long as the recognition is there, that that should happen. It's got to happen. John Clayton, the professor ESPN Radio in Seattle now is a main role and he is on the selection committee and he'll be in the room

with seven others on Saturday in Miami. Jaguar's Happy Hour continues. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, Let's go back to South Beach one final time. Ashland Sullivan standing by again back on Radio RO Live for a couple more minutes at the Miami Beach Convention Center. Tony Boselli Big Day on Saturday. I want to know what's on the playlist. Since you're

Mr Positive, what tunes do we ask my question? I'll probably leave it to my eighteen year old daughter, so, which means you've never heard of there's like this lizzoh, oh, she's great, my daughter. I don't really know where songs except for the one where they tossed the hair back song. Yeah yeah, my daughter loves Lizzo. You're a big loser guy,

probably be like that. It's so I'll probably leave it to them, let them to do the playlist, which means like you've really like knock someone out of the party. I have to ask a sort of a serious question, and again you told me is right before we talk for the show. I asked you, at some level this is still cool though, right, but you said it's less cool at the used to it. It's getting less. But I've always liked your perspective on it because you do

get that it's an incredible honor. You're one of fifteen, which is really cool, but I want to be one of five that has come. Yeah, it's it's less cool, and not because the honor is any less. The honor is still just as much as it's ever been. Because bottom line is, you look at the list. There's fourteen other great players on that list, and to be included

in that in the process is amazing. Um the you know this year and maybe it happen in the past, I don't remember, But like the comments by guys I played against, the Bruce Smiths thanks to ashlyn Um, the Jason Taylor's, you know, all these players, Mike McQuary, I don't want you to go lost over that. That meant

a lot. That meant a ton to me because those are guys I played against like they know, like they like, especially the position where there is no stats look, those are the guys that know, and so that means a lot, Like that stuff is so cool and we'll never get old, like the nerves and the exactly, and like this is the fourth year. And I was talking to John Lynch

about it. A good friend of mine, Jim for the four nine ers, and this is his seventh year, and and so like he's like here we like his family didn't even bother anything a call, but he's like, here we go again, and it's just like, hopefully this is the year. And so that part waynes on you a little bit. But the honor your peers talking about you, that stuff will never get older. Well, here's to hoping this is the year, not hoping, and Naston might be a big part of that. I mean gold started her

getting Bruce Smith. They're gonna give me a call. I'm gonna get a lot of money for this one day. I mean you should like I leverage that. It was the coolest noncommittal thing I've ever heard. Comments he just didn't want it. He got close and he went pretty he went pretty far, and only because Ashland. But you've never really talked to Bruce, right, I haven't talked to him since the last time we played. I don't think he likes you that much. He faked it for like

thirty seconds. Whatever works, all right, JP. Back to you guys in Jacksonville. Well done. Everybody down in South Beach and John Osier, Tony Boselli the finalists of the Pro Football That is interesting. I don't know if you saw the Bruce Smith stuff the other day. I haven't seen it. The Pro Bowl, Ashlands the Pro Bowl, right, and they're

on the practice field and Bruce Smith is there. I don't know if he's a captain or something was going on and went up to him because Bruce Smith was talking to Josh Allen clay as Campbell at the time. You go up after practice and she's they're like, hey,

you gotta get Bruce Smith. Okay. So she goes up and Bruce is kind of an intimidating figure, right, He's a large human being, and um, she's like, hey, I'm gonna ask you about Tony Bassilli and apparently he just kind of glance stat her, I guess, and then they started the interview, and yeah, about Tony. Boselli has some pretty there's the the most notable things he said about Tony I'll say that, um, that he worked in pretty good and deserves to be in. Maybe the career wasn't long,

but uh, it was. It was the most that we've heard out of Bruce Smith about Tony Boselli in this regard. Well, it's good. I'm glad that Bruce has come out and said some nice things about him because a lot of times Bruce was very hesitant to talk about Tony for a lot of years because it was essentially, when he's complimenting Tony, he is somewhat criticized in his own level of play against Tony, and Bruce wasn't one to have

that kind of conversation much. And you know, hey, that's part of the story though, But if that Tony Tony's the narrative, they'd be great. Tony kicked his butt, yes, and that's that's the reality. And uh, and Bruce didn't want to talk about getting his butt kicked. But you know, with age comes a little bit of humble miss, I guess you could say. And and Bruce maybe is finally real, Liz,

what the real truth was, because he denied. I mean when people asked him about that game, he did not want to admit and that's recently to yes that he did not have a good game, and he did not have a good game against Tony. One last thought about Tony here before we we pack it away. When he came in the door as a draft pick, he was unbelievable.

I've never seen anything like that. I mean, now here, I was a veteran guy expecting to work over a rookie and you know, for the first couple of days, you know, you you got a little bit of him. But I was a veteran player, and uh he was. He was fantastic from the get go, and you just don't see that and uh, truly special, truly special player. Let's put him in. I mean, that'll be the biggest bust in Knon if he gets in, though, I'll say that the biggest, the biggest head. Yeah, it'll be the

biggest bust in Canton. Yes, there's no doubt about that. That in that whole all, he will stand up. You know, JP a lot of guys when they come in in the National Football League, there's there's typically they're still growing to do physically, you know, because when you're playing college there are some boys in there, some men. When you come into the National Football League. There are still some boys that are going to be become more of men.

And when Tony came into the National Football League, I mean essentially his body changed a little, but he was a man from the day that he stepped on the field as a rookie. And that's very rare for for a player to come into the National Football League and to be able to play the very first game he played after missing time because I busted his knee up

in training camp. First game he plays against the Green Bay Packers, he was beaten Sean Jones all up in the head and face area and worked him over, worked him over, And I was I had a front row seat, and I knew what kind of a player he wasn't. I was literally not on the bench when the offense was on the field. I was watching Tony. Tony kicked Seawan Jones. But in that first game here love it. Hey, guess what. There's more Baselli talk to come the Moron

Shows next. It's the final Doug Baron show this season. In fact, back with more on the Jaguars Radio Network coming up. Thank you for listening and watching. Thanks for all our folks down in Miami for the contributions to Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network

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