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Meyer Watch continues. Nothing official from the Jaguars as of yet, but plenty of media reports and photographs at certain air fields of a certain former college head coach in town today. We'll discuss it all coming up. Talk of facilities upgrades as part of that. Part of the reporting today involved in Urban Meyer's uh conversations with the Jaguars could be of facilities upgrades, staffing reports who could be on the

coaching staff. And then we have a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock today. Jeff Loghman in with us. And a lot going on around Jacksonville today and a lot of it has to do with a former bowling green Utah, Florida, Ohio state head coach. You mean the guy that's one everywhere, has been everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty good, right. I mean, he's one of the most successful college coaches of all time,

as record supports that. And when you're an organization that has not been able to change the culture and become a winner, then you try to find somebody that can change that culture. And does Urban Meyer fit that billion Absolutely. You gotta have, I think with the head coach, great leadership ability, and he clearly has that, otherwise he would not have the broad success that he's had at different

levels of program. And you're talking about Florida that was a pretty much a perennial winner, and he brought him back to sustain winning. He built the program in Bowling Green that was jp it was Bowling Green right for heaven's sake, and winning there and then goes to Ohio State and re establishes Ohio State as part of the national championship conversation year in a year out. So he's had great success and and I hope he can bring the same to here. And I hope he's tired. Let's hope.

So obviously with the media reports today and the cameras following around he's around the building, and from the last reports, the negotiations continue, but he's around. I'll say that. Well, I mean, nothing's done until it's done. You know, the inks you gotta get get dry. But he's not here for no reason. So it's not a joy ride today. Yeah, you know. But then again, like I said, until the

inc is dry, you never know. And and it's so I think there will be I think a little bit of I don't want to say a split emotion about the hiring of Urban because there's a lot of Florida fans that weren't happy when he left Florida, but if he were still at Florida, they would love him probably. I mean, so, I think there's gonna be a segment of people that that are going to be like, oh, Urban, no,

we don't want him. But then I think the majority of the people are going to recognize that he's one of the best coaches in football and are gonna be extremely excited to have him. Thirty two is a head coach the third best winning percentage in major college football history, trailing only Newt Rockney and Frank Lahy, which is amazing win percentage, and with saying that it's also a different game in the pros, and that you you cannot out

recruit in the pros. You have salary cap constraints. It's a it's a little different game, but it's still once you strip away a lot of the differences, it's still football at its core. And football needs great leadership and uh and I think that he can provide that. And and so I think it's gonna be if, if it happened, I think it's gonna make the Jaguars a part of the conversation with Urban Meyers the coach. But then you have to be able to make the Jaguars a part

of the conversation because you're winning. After that point, I gotta win. And you know, this is one of those It feels like somebody saw everybody's been following Twitter today, of course, and everything that's been going on around this, and somebody made a good point today that I saw it. Kind of I think it was Daniel Jeremiah. Actually, um, I mean it wasn't me. No, it wasn't you, because

you're such a prolific tweeter. Let me tell you, I'm pretty pressed, right, he said, it felt to him almost like a Jimmy Johnson to the Cowboys moment because that was almost a clean slate. They did a bunch of drafting and really started from the bottom in Dallas to build that thing up. And that's what it feels like is gonna happen here because the first overall pick, new coach, new GM coming in UH, an owner that wants to spend and do it the right way. It has that feeling.

I think Daniel made a pretty good point. I think it's a good point, and and I was fortunate enough to be able to kind of watch the Jimmy Johnson to Dallas kind of thing, UH with a little bit of a front row seat because when I was a player at the East West Shrine Game, Jimmy Johnson at that time was the coach of the Miami Hurricanes, and so he was one of our all star coaches then.

And eventually he gets hired soon after that to become the coach for Jerry Jones, the new owner of the Dallas Cowboys, and Jerry I thought made a great decision highing Jimmy Johnson, and Jimmy changed the culture. I got a lot of good friends that played for Jimmy in those early years. Mark Stepanowski, Darryl Johnston. I mean, they all rave about about Jimmy Johnson, and uh, he didn't have a lot of draft picks when he walked in

the door. He garnered quite a few of them because they were able to trade herschel Walker, which was a huge blockbuster trade which allowed the Dallas Cowboys to really select players to help them win. That gave Jimmy a little bit of an advantage because if you go back and you look at the the players that he picked with the with the picks that were acquired from the herschel Walker trade, it was it was literally cornerstone type player after cornerstone type player, and that made a big

difference in the success of the Dallas Cowboys. So this offseason and building the base of the organization and free agency in the draft obviously quite important. Again, nothing official yet from the Jaguars today on Urban Meyer, but he is around. Negotiations continue, That's what has been reported. That's what is happening, and we're discussing it here on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the c s I Companies. You know, the College spro thing. We've seen it works some for

some guys and not work so well for others. Um, there's only been three coaches that have won a national championship and a Super Bowl. Jimmy Johnson's one of those, Barry Switzer is another, and then He Carroll is the third. And some would say that Barry Switzer doesn't really count because he won it with Jimmy's team, but I mean, the simple fact is he did win it, and Pete Carroll was able to do it. So it hasn't been

there hasn't been a lot that have done it. But I think the most important thing is that if you look at the former college coaches that have made I mean I'm talking about really good former college coaches that have made the move to the NFL, there may not have been these this great success rate, but here's the thing,

there hasn't been a large failure rate. I mean, if you look at it from that standpoint, because the reality is is that it's also about the Jimmy's and the Joe's as well as the xs and os and coaching matters. But you still have to have the top shelf players to be able to help get you to that type

of performance. And so herban Meyer is just like any other coach, and from the standpoint of he needs to have good players to win, and I think there are coaches that can have good players and they don't win, And I don't think Urban Meyer is going to be anywhere close to that. So, and here's the other thing, JP, why wouldn't you want to have one of the most successful college coaches of all time and find out if

he can transfer that success to the pro game. For me, it's a it's a lot better when you're trying to do it from the standpoint of, Hey, we want to establish winning quickly and winning quickly now to say, let's take it's not as much of a leap of faith to do it with a guy like a Ramier who has proven that he's done it at the collegiate level as it is per se trying to do it with all these hot assistant coaches in the National Football League

that are considered hot commodities. I think that's uh would be a very tough thing to do and try to forecast success with some of those guys that are position coaches or coordinators now at some other NFL team, thinking that they can be had or have the great success

that Urban Myers ad at the pro game. Urban, of course, one of the innovative offensive minds in college football over the last years or so, starting that spread offense, really growing it and developing it into a system that took over the SEC in Florida and then spread out to other places in college football. And now it's it's creeping into the NFL, which is you know, in the old days, you'd think, okay, NFL pro style, if you have this

kind of quarterback, it won't work in the NFL. Well, now you have entire organizations that are shifting over to college philosophies that are now creeping into the NFL. More and more and more teams are are using a lot of the things that he was doing about fifteen years ago, a lot of a lot of the same type of stuff.

And here here's the crazy thing. For for a long time, it was it was thought that the college stuff couldn't be applied to the National Football League because you have to have a running quarterback, because that's the entire basis of the system that you see in college, and that the quarterback can be a dominant threat as a runner.

It's a numbers game to write a number of the defense as the quarterback instead of now just being ignored now has to be counted as a potential ball carrier, which allows one other person that's not carrying the ball to be a blocker. And that's where the numbers game is. And heck, if if Nick Foles is still running some of the read option and Nick Foles might be the absolute opposite of what you would think might be able

to run or to be a running quarterback. If he can do it, and the principles are working for a guy like a Nick Foles or even uh for example, or Tom Brady who fakes a handoff and it's a read option type principle, it can work for anybody. Really. We know that Tom Brady is not going to run anywhere, but that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But you get my point, and that you don't have to have Lamar Jackson to run some of these college principles and

make them success at the NFL level. NFL coaches have taken it and applied it at the NFL level, and they've also done it a little differently, and that they're obviously the quarterbacks not keeping the ball as much, but the threat still exists that the quarterback can run the football. Curious to see obviously that the coaching staff around if urban Meyer is finalized at some point either today tomorrow, the coaching staff that he would decide to bring in

with him. There are reports of on the defensive side of the ball already of Charlie Strong, maybe as a defensive coach of some kind. They haven't really reported what. I haven't seen many offensive names links yet, but I'm curious, you know, would he have a play caller, would he be involved in that or is he more of a CEO type? And I think we'd find out a whole lot more whenever it's announced and whenever he speaks to

the media for the first time. Yeah, that's uh, let's get to the point where it's announced first, and that's right, and we can we can speculate all day and as people have been speculating about that, I don't think it's very productive. But but I do know that the college game is different than the progame. The playbook for colleges maybe that thick, and I'm basically putting my two fingers together for those on radio, about half an inch part, whereas the pro game it might be two inches thick.

And so it's a little bit different. I think that the coverages are a little bit more sophisticated, and for a couple of reasons. For for one, this is a job, and you can expect players at the NFL level to assimilate the information and uh and be ready to go with it. And because it's their job, that's the only thing they're studying. They're not having to worry about biochemistry or calculus, or anthropology or JP in your case, the

history of art or the history of circuits. You know those classes you talk Alabama, so uh, you know what I mean. And so that now they can just read a playbook. But it's definitely a little bit more complex and and there's a lot more put on quarterbacks at the National Football League level, at least the ones that have been wildly successful. We've got plenty of show ahead, of course, another forty five minutes to sell in this program than another hour of Jaguars Happy Hour at five

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is reportedly in the Jacksonville area. If you followed social media today, you probably saw some photographs of him stepping off a private jet at the Cecil Airport on the west side of town. He is apparently in negotiations with the Jaguars as we speak, and if anything breaks in the next hour and twenty minutes, our hour and forty minutes. Rather, we will bring it to you live right here on

Jaguars Happy Hour logs. We promised quarterback talk, and of course many people feel that the Jaguars will draft a quarterback first overall this year. I think you probably. I

wonder why, and I wonder who it might be. But um, since we're discussing urban Meyer here today, we need to go through urban Meyer's history of quarterbacks in college, considering the system that he had really kind of developed and used over his college time there, and it seems to have a similar feel for a lot of these guys because of the offense and the way they have to run. At Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I must say I

did not remember Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I didn't watch a lot of Bowling Green and No one O two me either. But he was a six round picked by Baltimore in two thousand four and was three seasons in the NFL and the CFL. Apparently then Alex Smith, Utah. Alex Smith's star really rose in Salt Lake in the time that he was under urban Meyer, and he was the first overall pick. That's one of the big reasons why is the great success that Urban had with him

at at the school. And that's Alex Smith. You know Alex Smith would would you consider him a runner? Well? Uh, in in those days, yes, in those days he kind of had to do some of that. I don't think he's a sprinter, so he's not. I mean he's not Tim Tebow. He was running enough. He's an offense Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick. But I mean he ran enough

exactly to make that offense work. And that's the importance is that you don't have to be uh dynamic and a home run threat every time you touch the ball. But you gotta be a threat. You gotta be a threat, and you have to make proper decisions as well. I mean that's a quarterback decision. Offense. You're reading and reacting and if you make the wrong move, the play gets

blown up. Yeah. The one the one thing is for certain that because we're talking about the the potential of of a Urban Meyer type of an offense in the NFL, and I think there will be changes to a lot of that. I think I think a lot of it will adapt to to the NFL game and will a quarterback be a running threat. If he's the head coach here,

I think that he will absolutely be a threat. But I think all the reality is in the National Football League, you don't want to get your quarterback hit if you don't have to get your quarterback hit, because this is a position that if you get the right one and he's allowed to grow and allowed to stay healthy. Look at Tom Brady, look at Drew Brees. You think Tom Brady Drew Brees would have lasted as long as they did if they were these read option type quarterbacks at

the NFL level. I don't think so. Some other quarterbacks in urban Meyer's past, Chris Leak at Florida, he was inherited when Urban showed up in Gainesville. He wasn't a exceptional runner, so he wasn't the great fit. But then Tim Tebow was. He was the ideal football player for what they were doing in Gainesville. Yeah, and and uh Tim, when you hear him talk about urban Meyer, I mean he raves about urban Meyer and uh so interesting and that that you know. And Tim, I think is one

of the great college football players of all time. And when he speaks highly of a coach like he has about urban Meyer. I think that speaks a lot of volumes for for urban Meyer, and Tim obviously was not his game wasn't really meant for the National Football League, which also shows that you know, you've got to have a quarterback that can throw it, that can read it and uh and go through progressions and and that's not

what Tim had. So Urban mars is obviously going to be wanting a quarterback that can do some of those things that Tim could not at the pro level. Then we go on to Columbus when urban Meyer came back into the Big Ten and the first starter for him at Ohio State was Braxton Miller, running threat obviously twenty five touchdowns. He was a Big Ten Player of the

Year in twelve and thirteen. Uh and then he switched a wide receiver later, but in his time, in his days in Columbus, he was a quarterback in a big threat yeah and and uh then was it Cardel after that was in there for in fact Buffalo Bills and then got traded to the Chargers. I believe many people thought that he had a big arm and had very little plane experience at Ohio State prior to entering the

National Football League. But many viewed him as a as a aspect that would just need more time to grow, and he hasn't grown yet. J. T. Barrett was part of that group as well. He played a short time in that championship season where Jones came in at the

very end and won the national Championship game. Miller was the starter and then and then the J. C. Barrett was there for a little bit for a month or so, he got hurt and then in comes which which which is amazing to win a national championship with how many different quarterbacks in a season? Pretty good? That's pretty good. I mean, that's uh, that's what we call recruiting. Well, I mean when you well, yeah, absolutely, in which you can do that at the pro game. But it reminds

me a little bit. And this is obviously a Hall of Fame coach in the National Football League, and I'm not trying to draw the comparison of the two, but it's just interesting how you have a college coach that won a national championship with three different coaches and one or three three different quarterbacks in one season. It's impressive. And when you start thinking about has there ever been a coach at the NFL level it has been able

a win with three different quarterbacks in the same season. Uh, hey many Now if you want to talk about different seasons, Oh sure, Joe Gibbs. I mean he wanted with all the Super Bowls with different quarterbacks, you know, so it's a little bit different though. Those are those are different quarterbacks in the season. Now we look at and I know you've already started to look at Trevor Lawrence tape and that's the player everybody feels that it is probably

going number one overall. Uh. He's a running threat as well at logs and he can use those legs to make this kind of thing work. He's a running threat JP. But to me, that's where hold early in his career. I think he'll lean on that a little bit. But I don't see him from watching this film. I don't see him is that that's gonna be the mainstay or the staple of his game. His arm talent is tremendous. He's got really nice anticipation. He has the ability to

go through progressions. And I've been watching him, uh three different nights now, four different nights now, and every everything that I watch, you just you sit there and you go wow. Um, impressive and I think what I like about the most, and I don't know if this is the way that the offense is tailor of, this is just his nature. He loves to push the ball down the field. I mean loves to push it. And that's what you'd like to have as a quarterback that can

push it down the field. But when he when he's pushing it down the field, he has the arm strength and the armed talent to do that. And you've got to have that armed talent to do that at the National Football League level because the windows are smaller. College it's a little bit different. But if you're doing it playing and play out a game in and game out at the collegiate level, then I think it becomes a little bit easier to make that transition to the pro

game and continue to do that. Something to watch. Well, We've got plenty of quarterback discussion ahead in the months leading up to the NFL Draft, and we've only just begun this is and it hasn't even really begun yet because nothing has been officially announced today by the Jaguars as of yet. But Urban Meyer is the talk. He is in town, he is in the building, and negotiations continue. That is the latest reporting that we can send your way.

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And it feels like, obviously here in town, everybody seems to be most everybody is excited about what could be this move. Yeah, I think it's a very exciting move. I think this move has an opportunity to really reset the franchise. Uh. I've always been very, very bullish on Urban Mary in Jacksonville. Part of it is because I felt like the situation needed a program, build a culture builder, someone who could change and give a vision for the

franchise and everyone could jump on board. And I think when you look at Urban Mary and his track record, not only what he did at Ohio State in Florida respectively, but going all the way back to the success that he had a Utah and Bowling Green, this is someone who has a proven playing, a proven blueprint. He has done it with and without resources, And I think because of that, I think he's will equipped to jump into

this situation and have success at some point. Bucky, with with a college coach making the jump to the pro game, what what kind of a staff adjustment would you expect, you know, the college game being a little bit different than the program. Do you do you see Urban leading on some key players kind of putting that staff together to help make that adjustment to the pro game. Yeah, Jeff, I think it's really important that he brings in a

mix of people. I think he can lean on some of his past assistance to kind of help him from a cultural standpoint, But the pro game is vastly different than the college game, and so he's going to need to lean reach out to some NFL guys, guys that understand the game, guys that understand how to coach pros and bring those guys in. And I think when you look at the way Urban typically gets down as a coach, he is the CEO type. He's gonna oversee the entire operation.

He's going to be involved, but I think he's going to trust his coaches to coach. I think it's really really important with his staff, he has a balance of NFL experience with some of the college guys who know how he likes to operate a program. And then I think that will be the best way for him to

kind of get this franchise jump started. Lucky Brooks with US NFL Network analyst, co host of Wednesday Jaguars Happy Hour during the season and Jaguars Post Game Where and the score Board Show or Bucky loves to take phone calls after love his games, and it might be a

whole lot better in the future. Moving ahead. UM, So we were talking earlier Bucky about the offensive track record of Urban Meyer throughout his stops Bowling, Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio State, and how that offense really he was a big part of the spread coming to college football in the early two thousands and the explosion of it at Utah and at Florida and now it's moving into the

NFL game even more so. But he was one of those one of the minds that really got this thing going and got it off the ground to make it and really changed the college football game the last fifteen years or so. Yeah, JP and Jeff, I can tell you a funny story. I remember as a scout when I was working for the Seattle Seahawks. I went to Utah and it was his first year at Utah, and I'm watching them at practice and it's in August is the Militaria camp, and they're doing things that I've never

seen done before. You have Alex Smith and the shotgun executing the zone read plays. You had a wing back or WHI receiving named Paris Warren who was coming in orbit motion and going behind the tailback and all this and they're running triple options stuff, and they're throwing the ball all over the yard. And I think what really stood out to me was the adaptability, his ability to take quarterbacks with different skill sets and find a way

to be successful. And I heard you guys talking about quarterbacks and what he really likes and quarterbacks and having a conversation with him earlier this year. What he talked about what he really prefers in the quarterback had little to do with their physical ability. It's all about, Oh, we've lost Bucky. We will get the connection coming back. Bucky. You're back with us now. Nope, we'll get Bucky back

in just a moment. There's quite a cliffhanger from Bucky, anxiously awaiting what he was gonna say, But I will say that, you know, Urban has done a number of the he's obviously a five sports analysts the last couple of years and has done a fantastic job on those pregame shows before the new kickoffs and and he's been around the media the last couple of years especially. But Bucky, I think it's back with us now. We lost you

at the keys to the quarterback position. Before you get the keys to the quarterback position for Irvan Meyer, okay so, and talking to Urban earlier this year, the intangibles matter far more than the armed talent, meaning toughness, competitiveness, leadership ability. He will not take a quarterback who doesn't exhibit those traits, meaning he has to be the toughest guy. He has to be a leader who can express himself vocally, and he has to be able to elevate the team. He

is really big on that part of it. When the pieces around you aren't perfect, can you still find a way to get the team to the winners circle. Now, he'll talk about the athletic component because it does expand the playbook and allow you to do more things, But really it's about the toughness, the grit, the determination. Can this guy be a leader of men? Can he elevate the franchise? Think about those traits more than some of the physical things that we can tend to get bogged

down in. Yeah. I think in a perfect world, Bucky, he'd like to have all of those traits combined. I mean, you can rank them however you want to, And some people would view that armed talent is more important than anything at the NFL level, But you know, that's an

argument for an entire show. But with urban Meyer and his past health concerns, Uh, have you ever heard or do you know of any concern that he would have returning to the game and at the pro level, which many view is being even maybe more high stressed than the college game. Yeah. No, I think that's a really valid concern because we've seen how he he lives or dies with the wins and losses, and obviously the pro

game is different. I mean, in in a pro season, if you happen to get to twelve and four, that's a very successful year, going three and one each quarter, and so I will I do believe that will be a bit of an adjustment. He's never really experienced, uh, losing at a high level, and so it can drag him down. Now, hopefully he's been able to manage that

and do those things. But I think he has to come into the Jacksonville situation knowing that he is going to experience a little adversity and that he will map out a way to help the Jaguars work around that.

But I do believe the health concerns that we all may have about him in the stress level is something that we have to worry about, and I think is one of maybe the negative factors that skeptics will have with urban Meyer joining the franchise Bucky Brooks with us NFL network analysts, and that that's why it had to be for urban Meyer, and if this thing gets done,

it has to be the perfect scenario for him. That he could basically pick where where was the best set up for him or he could have just sat in the Fox analyst chair for another three or four years and done whatever he wanted to do. So that's part of the reason. I think why is the health part. But having the football organization a clean slate of sorts.

We talked about this before, Bucky having that opportunity a clean slate organization, it doesn't happen that often in the NFL where it's a true clean slate, So it seems like this was the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I think this gives him the clote, the best opportunity to run what he's always familiar with, which is running a program that is very similar to Florida and Ohio State. Meaning he's at the top, he's the czar. He has the opportunity

to really reshape the franchise, the way that he sees fit. Uh. Some of the things that we will eventually find out about him. Big on the sports performance fees, big on the nutrition piece, big on mental performance, and doing all the things to make sure that the players are in the right space when it comes to being a level competitors. And so it's important for him to have that. Now. It will be a bit of an adjustment because unlike college, you're not recruiting, and so the way that you acquire

and develop players different. But I think his experience at Bowling Green and Utah will help him with that because this will be more of a developmental program. It will be one that I think will skew a little younger based on the roster that they have and the players that they bring in, and so the development piece will be big. But I will say this to the skeptics and the naysayers who talk about this coaches not being able to get it done, I'm gonna bring out Jim

Harbaugh's immediate success in San Francisco. Jim Harbaugh took over a team in the middle of a lockout where he didn't have an off season program, and that year, right away they hit the ground running. I'm not saying the Jaguars are in a situation like that, but it has been done. Matt Rule and what they're doing in Carolina when you're rebuilding the culture, the winds didn't necessarily come, but the culture has changed and they were extremely competitive.

I think sometimes when you have experience and success doing these rebuilds multiple times, you have a tried and true formula that works. I think it's just about him implementing his plan and getting everybody to follow suit and Bucky you talk about how you cannot recruit at the pro level, but which obviously makes the position of general manager so very important because that's the guy that's doing the recruiting for you. He's identifying who are going to be the

a lest type of players. There's been rumors about about who might fill that position if, in fact, or a Meyer is hired. Uh, what do you see in that in that role for the general manager? What type of traits were they that person have to have to be

able to work with an urban Meyer. Well, I think the first thing he needs to have is he needs to have enough NFL experience to understand the workings of how you acquire talent, how you draft talent, how you understand and manipulate the waiver y and transactions and all

of those things. I think it also needs to be a forward thinking football mind, meaning they understand today's athlete, they understand how to get young guys ready to go, and I think they also have to work in lockstep in terms of a developmental plan where you're not only getting young guys going, but you're giving them opportunities to play. We saw how that played out last year, and we saw the amount of young players that got onto the field. But can you get young guys onto the field and

help them have a media success. We saw Pete Carroll take his experience from USC and have that in Seattle where they run a bit of a collegiate program with the NFL sauce on top. I think Urban has to create a situation like that, and he has to have a right hand man that can be to him with John Snyder has been to Pete Carroll. Alright, Bucky, if if if Urban is in fact named the head coach, who do you envision his quarterback being With the first overall pick of the draft. It's in fact they take

one which is still not a done deal. Oh, I think it's a donedeal. I think Trevor Lawrence is a guy. I think people are going to talk about justin fields, but I think Trevor Lawrence exhibits all the qualities that he wants in a quarterback. Trevor Lawrence has always been a winner, going all the way back to high school watching what he was able to do it Clemson. He

is tough, he's competitive. I think this spring we saw his leadership ability kind of really come front when he was really involved in not only getting his team to play, but also what he did with his teammates in terms of uplifting them. I think he is the right guy to be the franchise quarterback, and I think he has the right stuff to be Urban Meyers quarterback in Jacksonville.

And so I think the excitement that is brimming and brewing in Jacksonville is about getting the ultimate QB one to go with a head coach who certainly has a track record for being able to be successful. You know how you can tell Bucky's excited Logs because he's wearing that Jaguar shirt today. Nice shirt. Well, ready man, ready Loggs knows it's been a long time coming. Man telling me win some games. Yeah, it is indeed, Bucky. Appreciate your time man on short notice, and we'll talk to

you again. Suit. I'm sure for sure, Man, be good logs to be good JP. Bucky Brooks out of here, NFL Network analyst. Always a great visit, great insight of course from Bucky and has done a fantastic job for us this whole season, and we'll have him a good bit in this off season leading up to the NFL Draft. Lots to get to We're coming back in a moment, Tony Boselli right around the corner. The Urban Meyer Watch continues,

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let's get to it. Ford Built for the holidays. Welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by the c s I Companies j P. Shadrick with Jeff Logerman Tony Sully coming up in moments. Thanks to Bucky Brooks, NFL Network analyst and our co host on Wednesday's Happy Hour during the Sea Reason and postgame radio like going on today, the Urban Meyer watch continues. Nothing official from the Jacksonville Jaguars as of yet, but the reports have him in the

building and in town. Of course, the photos you've seen on social media today of him stepping off a private jet and being escorted in an automobile through the garage doors and the loading dock at the stadium earlier today, that means he is in the building. The negotiations continue, last we have seen, and if anything breaks in the next hour fifteen minutes, we will bring it to you right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Interesting stuff from Bucky there.

He's got some great insight as a former scout and has been with the NFL Network for a number of years now, and um, you know he's he's bullish on Urban Meyer and has been for the last to the to the Jaguars at least for the last year. So well, I look, I I think that there's good reason for that. And the big reason, obviously is that he's had great success at the college level and and at different levels of the college level. And uh and that's a real positive.

So the greatest chance or the greatest ability to forecast somebody's success is to look at past success. And he's had great success in football at the collegiate level. And can he take it to the pro game If you get the right players, he can be wildly successful. Tony Vaselli you might have heard of him. He's with us now, proud of the Jaguars left Tackle Hall of Fame finalists. The vote coming up next week. A lot going on the last couple of days around the Jacksonville Jaguars. Today

is one of those big days. On social media, Tony, everybody's following what is going on. Nothing official from the team, but he is in the building and negotiations continue. That means it's on the doorstep. It feels like Tony, Yeah, I mean, I have a hard time believing that this thing won't get done at this point. I mean, it wouldn't be shocking if I mean, we've come this far and they have this much water under the bridge. I think, you know, you can't say it's a done deal till

it's it's finished. But it looks like Eric Meyer is gonna be the the next head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And listen, there's a lot of things you love about this. I mean, I'm a firm believer that the head coaching position is a leadership position more than the next and no position. Um. And if you look at his track record,

while it's in the in college, no doubt about it. Um, his leadership is off this charge and he has his had success everywhere and people talk about, well, yeah, it's easy to have success in formid ohiuse state because you get all the players that you want. UM. While that's true, you still have to lead them and put them in a position to win. But you can go back to Utah undefeated, UM success there, bowling green success there where you're not getting the best players. UM. And so I

think he is a leader. I think he's the right um. You know, has that makeup and that you're looking for it. And and but there's questions to Jeff brought it up being going college to pro that's a transition. Some people do it great, So I don't, well, you don't know until he actually does it. Obviously, all the reports out there about health and stuff something like, I'm sure he's fully aware of it's his health. That's something you just got to um be aware of. But does that mean

he can't coach. No, there's a lot of head coaches in this leg and trust me that have underlying health stuff going on. So UM, I think overall it's a pretty exciting um higher. It's a splash higher. Um. It's gonna get a lot of attention, and it's one of those things that, boy, you just hope And I think this is what Shod probably saying, I'm gonna go hire a guy who's one before it knows what it looks like. Um is a one everywhere he's been and as a bona fide leader, and see if he can that can

translate to the NFL, can translate to the Jacksonville Jaguarks. Yeah, we'll see UM. Nothing officially yet from the team, but yeah, the negotiations continue, and it is he's one of the all time great college coaches. Tony and that's the thing. I mean, he's the third best winning percentage in big time major college ball ever, behind Newton Rockney and Frank Lahy. I mean, the guy has won, and he's won it

four different, really distinctly different places in college. So he's been able to build those programs in in different places, in different ways, with different people, and that tells you a whole lot. Yeah, the dudes a winner. I mean, I mean, just look at the numbers. I mean you can and you hear reports, well he's not well liked or it's this or that. I mean, I don't know. I've never met the man. So in my book, you get the benefit of the doubt. Goin met each other,

and um and and and we'll figure that. You figure that out what kind of relationship you have with individuals. But set all that asign he wins, and he's won everywhere. Now it's it's is it different from the NFL to the pros? Yes, is he gonna win at the clip that he did in college? I hope so, highly doubtful. The NFL is a different game because you don't wake up and you have better talent than you know the teams on your schedule it's not like that. But he's

won in big games. He's one in BCS, he went through the playoffs. I mean, every every challenge has been put in front of the Urban Meyers. From a football standpoint, he's been wildly successful. And like I said a second ago, you just the reason you hire him is because you were betting the house that it translates where he did

in college to the NFL Tony. I don't think there's any doubt that that when urban Meyer would walk in front of a team, a pro team, this team, that there would be instant credibility just because of what he's been able to accomplish at all of his previous stops. And it doesn't matter if he hasn't played or won a game at the pro level. And I think that's obviously a big battle, is being able to have credibility

in front of a football team. Now you obviously have to do things to to maintain that going forward, but I think that's a big part of it. And with that being said, the next step, obviously, if you hire in fact, then the inc is drive with urban Meyer.

The next step obviously he's finding elenimal manager and obviously that is critically important to any coaches success at the National Football League level, you know, and I think it's probably gonna be I don't want to say more important because Urban obviously, you know, he's procured players at the call from high school of college and you've got to do the work and be organized and all that um. But you want to make sure you're the right person

because listen, Urban is gonna be running the show. I mean, let's don't make no let's not make you know, let's make no bones about it. I mean, he doesn't take this job lest it's clear that he is in charge of the football side, and so you have to find the right GM who understands his role and says, hey, listen,

my job is to make Urban great. My job is to manage the rest of the building so he focuses on football and everything else, and to make him great, and to find the players that fit the systems that that whoever his offensive parinator is gonna be and whoever his defensive coordinators. You find the right people, and you have to do it in a in a manner that's collaborative. So it's really important that GM has leadership in like the way I would say best because I think this

is what is it is really servant leadership. Your job is to make sure Urban has the tools that he needs and to make sure it's the type of players he wants to fit the scheme and to manage all this stuff around him. So, UM, you gotta find the right guy, and uh, it'll be interesting. My guess is Urban's gonna weigh in on that. I mean, they're probably gonna unless there's something going on that we don't know about, or maybe they take one of the guys they've already

interviewed um and make them the gym. But it's definitely something that I would bet a lot of money Jeff that Urban is weighing it heavily on who the GM is. And the reports today tell me that Trent Balky has been involved in the process. That has been at least reported today by a couple of different outlets. So we'll see what the days ahead hold in that regard. I know what the days ahead hold for you. How nervous are you for the vote this year? The Hall of

Fame votes coming up next week? Yeah, if I'm being honest, I haven't thought about it because it's know, you know, you get remember Jeff, As a player, you have that internal clock, like you know, when training camp starts, you start getting like feel allousy because you know camp stuff coming, they're hit. In the regular season, your body is a

tune to win. The game's gonna be played. Well, this is the fifth year I've done this, and so the last four, like you get used to the like the cadence of what happens, Like you fly to the super Bowl, you do all the work up and then the nerve starts kicking in as you get closer to the Saturday before um Super Bowl. And so this year it's completely different.

I think they're voting h five days from now. I'm not mistaken, and and so it's not that i've I'm very aware, but it's not top of mind because I'm used to, like I really start thinking about when I get to the super Bowl. So um, outside of people like you JP bringing up and asking me, you know, it's it's one of those things that this is the fifth year I've been in this position. I obviously hope I make it. I mean, my goodness, um more than any I mean as much as anything. But I have

no control over they're gonna vote. I don't even know when they're telling us, I don't know how they're telling us the hell of famous let us know that at all. I don't know if I'm getting the calls, you know, the nineteenth night. I don't know if they're waiting until the week of the Super Bowl to tell us. Unless you got JP, you probably know more than I do at that about I don't. That's That's why I was interested in your take on it. But I know it's

different this year in the COVID world. So all that now, you final thought here with you, Tony. You got a game this weekend on Westwood. What you got? Yeah, I got I'm doing the uh, in my opinion, the best game of the weekend. Um and because as the most I think it's the greatest storyline around the Saints and the Buccaneers. I mean, you have Drew Brades is probably retiring, and you have the greatest quarterback of all time who is defying Father Time and Tom Brady. So uh yeah.

I fly out to New Orleans on on Saturday. It's the Sunday game and I'm looking forward to it. Cannot wait to watch those two teams play. I mean, the Saints beat him twice. Um. Second Time handidly beat them pretty easily. Um, but the Buccanteers are playing really good football right now offensively. That Saints defense is good. Uh, it'll be interesting to see how Drew Brees did. I didn't think he looked great last week. Um, you can tell he's you know, father time is catching up with

Drew Brees, unlike Tom Brading's beating him off. But I can't wait to do it, just to see those two guys go at it. Um, two good, really good head coaches on the offensive side of the ball. And Bruce arians Sean Payton got two good defenses, you know, with Dennis Allen's done and Todd Bowls for the Buccaneers, I mean some of the better defenses. I think it's a fabulous matchup with a lot of the storylines. All right, Well, since it's gonna be a fabulous matchup, give us a prediction.

Who you who you think is gonna win? Boy, Jeff, I just get a sense that I think the Bucks are gonna pull it off. And that makes no I mean, if you look at the last two games, you'd say, well, why are you saying that? I mean the Staints have dominated them. Um, I think I think the Bucketeers are playing better and better each week. I think of offensively, um, they're really explosive, and I just I'm not sure how many I don't know how many points the Saints can

put up on the board against the Bucks defense. So um to say that though I picked them last time, I picked the Bucks to be in the last matchup because I thought they were playing well, and the Saints blew them out. So I think it's a close game. But if I had the bet, probably lead towards the Bucks. All right, Tony, Um, thanks for your time, short notice. Appreciate you, and and and whenever this is final, I'm sure we'll do more shows like this. So we're waiting.

We'll all wait and see. It's like waiting for the you know, remember when they choose the new pope in the Catholic Church, you wait for the white smoke to come out of the Vatican. I think we're all waiting for the white smoke right now. I have a good one, Tony. Tony Boselli prior to the Jaguars left tackle out of here. And you know, this is a fun day and it's gonna be a fun week for him, hopefully, hopefully, that vote comes through for him next week. That would be nice.

He look, uh, I got firsthand experienced to to go against Tony and and I don't think there's any question because I went against a lot of other guys that are in the Hall of Fame and played that played left tackle, and and Tony, I think it is better than just about every one of them, to be perfectly honest with you, So it would be a tragedy for him not to get in. But there are a lot

of really good players on that list, JP. I mean, it's it's hard to argue, uh, that that some of these other guys on the list don't deserve to get in as well. And that's the great thing is that you're in the conversation and and clearly all these guys are great players. They are and let's just hopefully we can put that to bed five days from now and you know, enjoy it with him and move on about our lives here now. Of course, today it's Urban Meyer watch.

He is in the building, he is negotiating, and that there's nothing official yet from the Jacksonville Jaguars organization. We've seen the photos and the video work following him around town all day to day after his arrival, so we'll see. And coming up, we've got an hour on the Jaguars Radio Network and other hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, and if anything breaks in that sixty minute period, we'll bring

it to you live right here on this program. A lot of excited folks today logs and rightly so, well, I think that that it's good reason because you're talking about bringing one of the most successful coaches of all time at the collegiate level into your your team, and your team hasn't experienced a lot of winning. So the first thought is, this team is gonna win now they got they got a coach, and they're gonna get a quarterback and things are going to be different. And hope

is a beautiful thing. Jaj it is, it is, indeed, and we're back in a moment. The network hour begins after this. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by the c s I Companies on the Jaguars Digital Network.