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the stadium. The negotiations continue. Nothing official from the Jacksonville Jaguars as of yet, but when it happens, we will let you know and bring it to you live right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. And yes, obviously one of the great college football coaches of all times three national championships two different schools only Nick Saban is the other coach to have won national titles at different schools since the A people started the nineteen and he's six. There

are only three others before that as well. It hasn't happened a lot. Uh the third old time winning is coached by percentage in major college football history. He's been a winner everywhere he's been. Let's see if he can bring it to the NFL. If this gets done today. I think what's impressive is that he's the third all time winning his percentage wise, but look at the different

programs that he's been at. UM. This is not a coach that Okay gets his first job at Ohio State and then just takes a perennial winner and just keeps the train rolling along and has an unbelievable winning percentage. I mean, you're talking about a guy who was that Bowling Green and UH, to be honest with you, JP Or growing up as a kid, I didn't even know that Bowling Green had a football program. Okay, So so he wins there, and then he goes to Utah, which, look,

Utah is not a powerhouse. Utah is considered for the most part, an afterthought, and UH wins a lot there. Then goes to Florida. Okay, won a lot of football games. We're trying to get them back and to being a contender, and he does to national championships, goes on to Ohio State, wins a national championship there, get that program back to being one of the most prominent programs and all of college football, and that success is still carried on today

with a very good football coach at Ohio State. So very impressive track record that he has. And there's no question that when you're talking about hiring somebody as a head coach, and I don't care if it's if it's a pro game or semi pro or college. You want somebody that's a leader. And if you can find somebody that has proven that they are a strong leader and that they've had success before, it gives you a much

better chance of having success at the pro level. And so, uh, I think it's gonna be exciting if if it in fact happens. We anticipate that it may, but if it if it doesn't, it doesn't, But if it does, it it will be exciting. As we said on a previous show here in Jacksonville just a few moments ago, if there's this much water under the bridge and they're this close to the finish line and it doesn't get done, and that's that would be a shocked you everyone. Let's

put it that way. Yeah, it would be. I mean, look, uh, we don't have anybody telling us, no, it's not gonna get done. I mean it's uh uh. And not that we have had any input that way either way, But I think it's exciting and it's exciting the prospect that it could happen. And I think it's gonna be an instant conversation piece when you talk about when teams are starting to talk about teams around the National Football League, but you know the conversation will will be that way

because it is in fact Urban Meyer. But then it becomes that once the season begins, okay, then you have to win to be able to have that conversation to continue and uh and so that that's part of the deal. And that's just the way it is in coaching. And and it doesn't matter who you are. I mean, ask Nick Saban when he was with the Miami Dolphins and he didn't have great success, but Nick Saban is a great coach. You put Nick Saban back with a pro

team and he's got good players. Nick Sam's gonna win because he's a proven winner and he's a proven leader. But you've got to have the combination of good coaching, good port, and good players to have great success at

the National Football League level. So we are awaiting the official word and nothing yet has come down, but it would be the sixth old time full time head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it would be a big one, a big splash when this thing gets done, hopefully today, and uh, it would change really that the face of the organization. It's really a blank slate. And for urban Meyer, think about since his days at Florida, that was really

the first big gig he got. He got the Utah gig they want a couple of years, and then he got the Florida opportunity. Blew that one out of the water. Was fantastic. Their two national championships, took some time away for health reasons, and then basically got to pick his next spot. And his next spot was really his dream job in college Ohio State. Finished there with some health issues as well, and it felt like, okay, at this point he can pick and choose where he wants to go.

So it feels like he has picked and shows in Jacksonville because of the clean slate opportunity and something like this where you can really make your mark and make it in in your imprint doesn't happen in the league all the time. Log so this is an opportunity. I think it's probably perfect for Irban meer Well. I mean, look, if if you want to have kind of your your fingerprints all over everything. I mean, this is gonna be it.

And I think that it looks if you're someone coming in of the stature of urban Meyer, you're probably gonna have a lot more input. And I know that Sean Commony talked about his press conference. You know, you'd like to be able to hire your general manager and your head coach simultaneously. Both will report to him. You know if if if urban Meyer is hired, I would feel like that urban Meyer has a little bit more input then maybe the general manager in certain aspects. And I

don't know that. I mean that's obviously something that once the deal gets signed and shot kan talks, I mean, will in fact be the case is and is the negotiation processes that all incompassing talking about you know, how far the reach, how much input, how much change can the coach have in all areas of the organization. You know,

there's been talking about facilities upgrades. I mean, that's that that's a lot of conversation and and I'm sure that before you have a coach that feels very comfortable in retirement and doing a TV job comes back and and comes back to being employed as a head coach. He wants to make sure that all of the conditions are right for him, and that's what you get when you're one of the most in demand coaches that there is out there. So I'm sure that Urban Meyer has a

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he's in the building. Negotiations continue and it feels like the there near the goal line here to punch this thing in the end zone lives, which would be a huge get for the Jacksonville Jaguars and the start of what will be an absolutely fun off season around this organization. And it has been a while since we could say there is hope around here. Well, I think also JP the one thing that uh that we're we're talking about is establishing a new culture with a new coach. And

then also, things aren't normal still. You know, we still have a global pandemic, even though we have vaccinations starting to reach the population. But what what would the establishment of a new culture look like with urban Meyer with some conditions that are still somewhat challenging, and still I would imagine throughout the course of one will still not be back to normal as they've been in years past.

And so I think that creates another challenge somewhat certainly, and a big challenge at that for a new coach to come in and and to do things the way that he wants to do to new look to learn new systems and new ways of doing things. So, uh, this is a pretty big undertaking. But the nice thing about it is is that you're doing it with somebody

who's been there and done that. He's established culture cultures at different places, even though it's been at the collegiate level, and it is different when it comes to the professional level, but at the same token, it's still football, and I think the big difference is that some of the dynamics that you're dealing with when it comes to the players. So I think that will be a little bit of a learning curve, but it would be a learning curve for anybody. And Norton Myers a smart guy out I mean,

make no mistake about it. He's a smart guy. He's adapted everywhere he's been and he's been very successful wherever he has been. And if he gets the players at any place that he chooses to go to, if he if the ink drives here, he will be successful here as long as he has the players. You know, we were talking earlier to Tony Vaselli on a previous program here in Jacksonville, and you know, the the idea that

he had is instant credibility. I think you brought it up. Actually, logs instant credibility when he walks in front of the room because of his track record of success at the college level, and most of the players that are on the team went through college when he was still, of course coaching in college winning national championships. How long does that last though, for a new coach, that credibility in front of a team, you have to go earn the

rest of it. Well, it's a great question. And then and actually had a conversation about that with Mike Vrabel, not specific derb Meyer obviously, but it was a couple of years ago. And uh and also had that conversation with another former teammate of mine who became a head coach in the National Football League. And I'll keep him nameless right now. Somebody can probably figure it out, but he said, look, the moment you stop in front of the team, if they know that you played the game,

it is credibility. But after the first couple of times that you get up in front of him, that credibility starts to wane if if they figure out that you're not helping them get better, or you're not helping them be a good football team, or helping be a good football player. You know, the the ensuing respect or the ensuing attention that you gather then becomes on your on your capabilities as a coach and so. Uh but definitely gets the attention right out of the gate, and that

helps things as well. Certainly gets the attention to everybody following the football team outside the building. That's for sure. It is one of the biggest headlines in sports today. And it certainly will be whenever he speaks for the first time, if this thing gets done today or tomorrow, or whenever it happens, whenever he takes the microphone for the first time, that will be a banner moment for the Jacksonville Jaguars well certainly. And uh, Shot Khan has

never done things that seem to have been small. Uh he ish his fingerprints are all over this and and he's always believed in doing things big. I mean, look at the video board. I mean that's the biggest in the world to now, you know, potentially hiring arguably the modern day greatest college foot ball coach ever him and Nick saban So, I mean, that's a that's a big deal. And and to be able to I don't want to say coax him out of retirement, because I don't know

if that was necessarily the case. Maybe uh, it was a mutual type situation. But to be able to to get him to take the job and to be able to coach at the professional level when for all intensive purposes, many thought that he was essentially done with coaching and he was happy and doing the broadcasting and that it made his health better and made him happy. But that may change things. And look, I guess it's a good fit.

I mean, because that's what it has to be. It has to be a good fit for all parties involved for somebody to take a position like this, because it's a very demanding position and it's one that's that that you can't do halfway. It requires all of your attention and all of your commitment. And that's one of the reasons why that people and some of the coaches that do this, that they become stressed and it's hard on

him because it does take a lot. It takes a lot of individual strength and also take a lot of of of of time and energy away from family as well. So I think it's gonna be exciting if it happens. I'm interested to hear when the spark of this started, Like you know Mr Khan said the other day and his press availability that you know that he's known Urban for a while and the Big Ten circles. The Khan

families involved heavily in Illinois. We all know that, and Urban has been at Ohio State for a number of years. So are involved in the Big Ten network, Big Ten Network, Fox Sports, the whole deal. It's all combined. So there they know each other. I'm sure there was probably an event or a place that they were together in a room and a football discussion might have started that spark somehow.

I'm curious if they can pinpoint when that might have begun. Yeah, you know, sometimes those things have a tendency to just to go untalked about because, uh, I think one one thing that people don't want to give the impression and I don't think this is the case, but look, you don't want to give the impression that all these other people that you interviewed weren't legitimate Canada's because I think

they were. But sometimes when you talk to different people, sometimes the the guy that's standing right in front of you sometimes it's the best Canada, but you just don't never get to the point where you have that conversation and so um so, I think it's certainly exciting, it's it's certainly intriguing, and it's it provides a lot of curiosity, certainly for people that would like to know the dynamics

jp A, including you, right. I mean, we'd all like to know the dynamics and be the little the little spider on the wall to be able to hear all these conversations. But we're not private to all that. And at the end of the day, all that matters is that this journey is gonna appears to gonna end with Ibmer being the next coach of the Jaguars. Plitting ahead, we will bring you any live breaking updates up until

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He's been in the stadium for a while. The negotiations continuing, and it feels like we're nearing the goal line of getting Urban Meyer as the next Jaguar's head coach. When it is official, we will bring it your way logs um. You know, obviously we've discussed some of the accolades he's had in college. The third most winning is when for the third most winning head coach by percentage in college

football major college football history. But he's one of only two coaches to win multiple national titles at different schools, Saban and Meyer in the modern era. But then you gotta go way back to when they didn't even award a national champion. They've had to go back later and and you know, teams claim national titles from the twenties and the teens. Howard Jones in Yale at nineteen o nine won a title, and then in usc won four

national titles in the twenties. That's one Pop Warner pit nineteen sixteen and eighteen, and then a third with Stanford in nineteen six and then Fritz Chrysler of Princeton in thirty three and thirty five one there and then one in Michigan in nineteen seven so there's only five guys that have done this all time, even if you count the really old ones. Yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's

incredibly rare. It's certainly is uh when you when you start to go back to that, I mean, you gotta remember, going all the way back to national championships, most of that was all vote, you know, so you didn't have the college football playoffs, and and irban Meyer was able to do it. I think both ways, I mean, and

so um impressive. And I think the one thing that I think has always impressed me about irban Meyer is just his ability to to I don't want to say will teams to win, because it takes more than just will to be able to have football teams to win. But the way that he has adapted at every different program, and when you looked at some of the personnel that he's had, and that's one of the games of the national football leagues that you have to be willing to

adapt to the personnel that you have. If you have a certain player that is good at doing a you can't expect him to do be And as a coach, one of the jobs of being a great coach is making sure that a player that does great with with a is that you let him do it and you find a way that he can do A. And so I think that's always been impressive to me about urban Meyer.

And so you know, if he has a quarterback that can do certain things the best way, that I expect him to allow that quarterback to do things the best way. So and I'm looking forward to seeing a little a little Clemson, Ohio State Florida kind of mixture here JP, because that's kind of what let me add bawling green to that. Don't forget Utah. I mean, look, it's it's exciting and and I can tell you this JP two because if this isn't the ink gets dry, then the

conversation will still continue about urban Meyer. But then a lot of the conversation then starts to continue about urban but then it also starts to the first question he's probably gonna be asked as press conference is gonna be or one of the first questions is gonna who's gonna be your quarterback? Right? I mean not a natural question.

So huh, that's gonna be interesting because he obviously has a recent association with the House State and fields a quarterback there had an incredibly successful game and against Clemson and and Trevor Lawrence didn't have quite as good of a game. So will that conversation and question be at Absolutely, But I think it's a certain level of intrigue, there

is no doubt about it. Speaking at quarterbacks, we have gone through the track record of his quarterbacks in his past, and what's his what's just out of curiosity because I mean you've got you got the his information up there. What's the worst record he's ever had as a coach? I mean that's because I mean, I'm not saying that he's gonna have the worst record ever his first year

as a coach. I'm just saying is that, Look, when you're building a program, there are bumps in the road, and there are gonna be things that you have to eventually overcome. And I'm sure he had to overcome these in college. What was his worst right? So in two thousand and one, his first year at Bowling Green, they were eight and three, they were nine and three. The

next year turn into a Utah twelve and oh. Nine and three is first year at Florida, and then a bunch of double digit win seasons nine and four and oh seven. They're eight and five and twenty ten is last year at Florida was probably his worst. That was the most losses he has was eight and five and twenty ten is last year at Florida. They won They won the Outback Bowl to get to eight So seven and five regular season, okay, I mean, so I mean

still winning record. I mean, that's amazing to me. The first year he's ever head coach at Bowling Green he was eight three and what was Bowling Green the year before? I mean, you probably have to bring it up, but I mean it'd be a great question to know, because I mean, obviously we show the direct impact that irbra Meyer had on the program. To be able to walk into the door in the first year ever as the coach at Bowling Green to roll out eight and three and then year or two go to nine and three,

that's impressive. They were two and nine and two. I mean that right there, That right there tells me, I mean how important a coach is because a lot of people, and I've said this in the past, that the college game, the program is very different because of the ability to recruit players and it there's no question that if that's an advantage at the collegiate level, because look, look at the number of pro prospects that the top programs Ohio State, Clemson,

and Alabama are all churning out year after year after year. And who are the top three programs that year and the year out are in the national championship conversations named those three programs. But to go to Bowling Green and to go from what tow and nine to eight and three, I mean, okay, did he did he get all of a sudden these duco transfers at Bowling Green? I don't think that's I mean, can you do that at Bowling Green? I don't think you can? I mean that that's impressive

to me. If you wanted to evaluate the greatest year and maybe the greatest impact of of Urban Meyer and coaching, I would look at that. You're right there. To take a program like Bowling Green to go from two and nine to eight and three with him being the difference, that's incredible, and then obviously continue to do it on the biggest of stages later in your career is a lot of pressure. When you perform at the places like that and finally get the big jobs, you're gonna go

perform at the big jobs and does well. It just it just goes to show you. We talked about it. You know, there's a lot of sayings Jimmy's and Joe's and the xes and the oh's okay, and then you also have the saying that coaching matters. Well, you know what, if you want to know or understand how coaching can matter, look at that. Look at those two years at Bowling Green before Urban Meyer and then with Irving Meyer in

it ought to tell you that coaching does matter. But then you could probably say the same type of thing and look at some of the other years and look at the players that he had a different years at Florida and to compare the success or maybe the year that wasn't as good when they went eight and five and they had to get that eighth win in a bowl game, to maybe compare some of the talent that you had with the higher win seasons compared to that.

I mean, it's look it, Jimmy's and Joe's matter, and coaching matters to it all matters, And that's that's the thing about is that you have to have all these pieces in place to be able to have the greatest chance of success. Let's come back. Plenty of quarterback talk, plenty of Urban Meyer talk. As the weight continues. He's around, the negotiations are continuing. It feels like they're inside the five and we will bring it to you live if it happens in the next half hour. This is Jaguars

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Negotiations continue and if it breaks in the next thirty minutes, we'll bring it to your live right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagoman And it's been a fun filled day already, following the social media stories and photographs of him getting off the plane and then the video. There were cameras staked out outside the stadium of the car arriving to the garage at the the loading bay doors. So they had it all. They had the whole, They had it all. I walked in the

other side. There's cameras out there, but he was He didn't walk in the front door. I think they took him in some back games. Yes, that's right. To try to avoid all that the work on a day like today, and it's hard to avoid all that. Anyway, we will keep you posted on what happens. It feels like it's very very close to being a done deal, and if it does happen in the next thirty minutes, we'll bring it to you. So we we touched on quarterbacks and

obviously his history with quarterbacks. You go back one thing. We haven't talked about his potential compensation. I mean, I mean that's there's a kind of well, because you know, when we hear or the the reports are that the negotiations are still ongoing, a lot of people might think, Okay, it's about the money, and and I'm sure that that has been part of it. I don't think that that that's part of the conversation once you get down to

the to the finer details. I think that the parameters of compensation are one of the first things you talk about, just to see if the interest is gonna be sustained. But if you if you if you had to guess as far as compensation for a coach of of Urban Meyer statue, I mean you you have to I mean I'm guessing somewhere in the eight million plus ballpark, and

eight millions probably being a little bit conservative low. But I mean, if you compare what Matt rule god in Carolina, what some of the top collegiate coaches are getting at the collegiate level, which is essentially what Urban Meyer had been making at Ohio State. I don't know what he made at Florida, but I mean that's what it cost you for a top college guys, around seven to eight million. But okay, now you're talking about one of the top three of all time winning percentage and to make the

move to the pro game. I mean my thinking is it's probably got to be a little bit even higher than that. So could it be in the ten, could it be in the twelve. I don't know that the top paid coach in the National Football League. Everybody thinks that it's Bill Belichick, but nobody knows for sure. Because nobody knows for sure exactly what that number is. There are reports that are in the range of twenty million

per year. Is that possible? Look, if if you have a player on your roster that is worth fifteen million a year, why would a coach that is gonna change the culture and established winning for you or potentially established winning for you, because nothing's for sure. But I mean, isn't that worth fifteen million? Absolutely? Absolutely? I mean, how many mistakes as this organization made with some high price free agents that didn't pan out and and you lost

millions on no production. I mean, and I'm not saying that that was unique to this organization. That's that happens with every National Football League team occasionally, and so that's just the cost of doing business sometimes. But if you can get one of the best coaches that there is, and if you have to pay him more than so

be it. But I mean, if I had to guess JP, I'm thinking ten to ten, ten to twelve fifteen million bucks a year or something like that out there earlier was twelve and then there were reports, so it's not that high. We may not really know, but his last salary at Ohio State was seven point six million dollars. I mean, that's that's I mean, you have to at least be higher than that. I mean, I'm thinking, like, like, like I said, you gotta be at least getting ten, right,

John Gruden's getting ten. Crudens ten. Uh, don't know what Pete Carroll is is where he's at. But uh yeah, I mean I'm I'm thinking that, Look, it's gonna be near the top of the league. I mean, you're you're talking about and and if if he has the power, and I don't know if he's going to have the power to do everything personnel wise or anything of that nature, because you want to allow personnel people to do what

they do best. And and just because you were a great college coach doesn't mean that you're a great personnel guy at the NFL level. So you you hire qualified personnel people to be able to do that. So but I mean you certainly if you're if you're hiring a coach of that magnitude, then then his reach is a little bit farther, I think, and and input is a little bit farther than most. So and with that input

and that reach comes a paycheck. That's right, that's gonna be a little bit more than most and a little bit higher and reach a little farther than most. Now to clarify also, I mean folks who are around the team and follow it all the time understand it. But the normal fan who really kind of tuning in maybe for the first time in a while today. Uh, that has nothing to do with salary cap It's totally different.

It's whatever basically the owner wants to. And David Tepper, the owner of the Carolina Panthers, was has quietly been criticized by other owners in the National Football League because he kind of broke the scale, so to speak, on hiring a coach with Matt rule and paid him an immense amount of money to be the head coach of the Carolina Panthers. But the reality is that if you're gonna if you're gonna hire qualified people, don't you want to get the best or what's viewed as the best.

And so sometimes you look at if you want to get the best, you gotta pay for the best. And Herbert Myer is clearly one of the best coaches that there is in football. And I don't want to say one of the best coaches in in pro football because that hasn't yet to be established. But if you just want to say one of the best coaches in football period, I mean urban Myers right there at the top of

the list. And and I know, if I'm an owner of a football team and I'm not jp trust me, I'm not really okay, But if I were, I would feel a lot of comfort knowing that I have a proven commodity, even though it's not at the level of the NFL. But I would feel better about having a proven commodity that this coach that I'm hiring has one versus John Smith, the hot offensive coordinator for the UH

Alabama Dragons in the NFL. You know, just to use a hypothetical football team and then a hypothetical name, I would feel a lot more comfort and knowing that I have a coach that has one and one big at the collegiate level. And that little stat that we talked about taking Bowling Green from two and nine to eight and three in the first year of er Meyer's career at Bowling Green, that I mean, that kind of that makes me feel really good. Let me think about it

like this. To Matt. We mentioned Matt rule now with Carolina, he was a college head coach for seven years, seven years and forty seven forty three record overall. Irban Myers was ahead college head coach and never had a losing record for seventeen seasons, So that kind of tells you the difference, at least track record so far Our rule was the hot day in Canada. If you so, if you're Urban, I'm I'm sitting there, gonna wait a minute.

Uh right, Matt rules getting X, so I should get X plus y Z, A and B. There will be lawyers and mathematicians involved. Let's say that. Let's come back in a moment. Plenty more ahead as we await the official word. Nothing official has been announced yet, but Urban Meyer Watch continues its Jaguars Happy Hour on Jaguars Radio. To wait for the Holidays is over, America. It's time to make some joy, and we're here to help with

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Urban Meyer watch continues. Nothing official from the team yet. We'll keep you posted in the next twenty minutes or so if anything breaks. If not, check it out on Jaguars dot com throughout the evening and we'll see it feels like it's very close. Logs and j let me ask you a question, okay, hit me okay, Because there's a lot of hot candidates that that are a lot of openings on the national football Yes what six this

year seven? If you know some of the candidates of Doug Peterson is going to be a candidate because he's won a Super Bowl even though he just got the boot from the Philadelphia, which is amazing to think about three years ago they had the Philly Special, which is unbelievable. It's it's really it is, it really is unbelievable. Super

Bowl when he coach gets gets canned. Um. And then you have Author Smith, offensive coordinator with Titan Eric Enemy for the Kansas City Chiefs um linebacker's defensive coordinator was a linebacker coach here, Robert Sala. I mean, all these candidates that are viewed by some Marvin Lewis some extra out there. Jim calledwell Jason Garrett exactly. And and so if you if you look at all those candidates, how many of them are proven? Jason Garrett. You got a

track record on Jason Garrett. That's about it. You got a no track record on anybody else. We left out Reale Morris, he was the falcon. He's got a little bit, He's got a track but small. That's about it, though. But the track record of Urban Meyer, even though it's at the collegiate level, I mean, the number speaks for itself. Is winning percentages is unmatched. And and if and you know, when you talk about how he's in the top three win percentages of all time. Okay, let me ask you this.

The other two coaches that are up there with him, how many programs were they at to be able to establish their winning percentage because him at Uh, basically he's baton eight fifty three. Right for using a baseball analogy, I know you like those. If he's bat in eight fifty three as a head coach and he's done it at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio State for programs, how many other programs were the other guys in the top three? How many were they? Rockney was it Notre Dame, Notre Dame,

and that's about it. And Frank Lahy was at let's see, he's at Boston College and Notre Dame. Okay, so to Boston College for two seasons and Notre Dame after that. Okay, So essentially both of them were at Notre Dame. Back when Notre Dame was the powerhouse of college football. They were. Everybody went to Notre Dame and nobody else was even close to being at Notre Dame level of talent or anything else. Rockney was one of one five twelve and five was his overall record. LA He was one of

seven thirteen and nine. Let me ask you a question here, Bear Bryant, Paul bear Bryant three three wins, Okay, but what was his win percentage? Because i mean, look, Paul bart but I'm just talking just at Alabama, because he was at Kentucky and Maryland. That's right. I want to know just just at Alabama. What was Paul bear Bryant's win percentage at Alabama? Two wins at Alabama, forty six losses, nine ties. That's pretty good. Yeah, I'd say that's pretty

good right there. I mean, he's above those guys. He's better. Yeah, that's it's amazing. It's oppressive. We'll see, it's uh feels like it's close. We will keep you posted. We'll take another time out. Plenty of urban Meyer talk still ahead, quarterback talk. A lot going on around the Jaguars, and that there's those reports of maybe facility changes involved as part of this negotiation. We'll discuss that when we come back at Seaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Radio Network

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a watch. I mean, it's now it's got to be getting pretty closed right there in front of your face, that's right. I mean, when when you have hurricanes, you have a hurricane watching a warning and then what's what's the one that means like it's coming, Get the hell out of dodges the warning, right, I would have to saying this might be an urban warning, I mean, but it's not really a warning, right, there's to the two

hurricane flags are up right now for Hurricane Urban. Um, it's about to make landfall, we think in the next few minutes. It feels like, so okay, if he takes the job, signs um, then he's got to assemble a staff. And there's all these reports of some big names that have been former coaches and college head coaches that could be involved. But that staff, the offensive defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator, those are the three big ones underneath him

to really start filling that staff out. Yeah, and I think that, uh, I think a lot of coaches. One of the first quality that they look for is loyalty,

because you want to hire people that you trust. And Irving, having spent a lot of time at the collegiate level, is gonna want to hire guys that he has had that have been very loyal to him and and some of those guys may or may not have experience at the NFL level, but I think that many that he's worked with have probably had experience at both coaches have essentially cross pollinated between the n c A A and and in the NFL, and that's happened, and it's been

pretty frequent, So I'm sure that he's had exposure and experience with people that have had experience at the NFL level. And I think that if if he feels like that he needs to have somebody that that he doesn't know very well, but he would reach out to somebody that could maybe guide him, or that he could ask that, hey, look, you know who is the best qualified to do X?

And I need somebody that has experience, then look, you go and you hire somebody that's got experienced because that's obviously, uh, it's a little bit different of a game, but it's still football at the end of the day. And I also think that the the establishment of a lot of the coaches and then also all the support staff around it, and uh, and I'm sure that a part of the negotiating process is you know, how much input does does

he have on every everybody else? And and in reality is I think it's probably a nervous time for some because you're talking about support staff like the training group and strength any of that. It could be anything, um, could be anything. I mean, that's that's the one thing I think that you know, Look, when you're trying to establish a culture, sometimes you're trying to bring in your people. So does that make certain people at risk? Sure, I mean that's that's part of uh. When you have a

change in staff that sometimes things change. And so I'm sure it's a it's an unnerving time for some people that are with the organization right now and on football support staff because when when Urban comes in, I'm sure he's gonna have a vision in mind. And sometimes when you have a vision, you have to be able to have people carry your vision through. And so your comfort level with people maybe that you've worked in the past. I think we'll will certainly play a part of that

or and it should play part of that. I'm sure that process has already started to figure out who he's probably been on it for a while. Well, we've we've heard many reports as far as two weeks ago that Irvian Meyer and I don't know the accuracy of these reports smoke, so there's fire somewhere, But the reports were saying that urban Meyer was in the process of assembling the staff and was in the event that he would

take the the Jaguar's job. Well, uh, that's all part of it, because if you are thinking about taking the job, you want to make sure that you're securing the best network of people to support you and the job that you're going to have, and to make sure that they don't go anywhere else quickly. So um, and that would be the wise thing to do if you were considering

taking the job. And the reports were exactly that. So um, it'll be interesting to see how quickly things happen once he gets hired, and then also what happens with the general manager position, because that's obviously that's the next big thing that not that needs to happen. As we said many times before, when you look at Hall of Fame coaches, and I'm not talking college college hall of Fame coaches.

When you look at the NFL Hall of Fame coaches, what is the one thing in common with almost all of the Hall of Fame coaches, with the exception of maybe one or two, they all have Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I mean, if you, if you if you look at the Hall of Fame and the in the exception Joe J. Gibbs, who had multiple super winning ball winning quarterbacks, but if you look at the Hall of Fame coaches, nearly every

one of them has a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's impressive and and and it's it's it tells you that you've got to have the players to be able to do it. And with the Jaguars having the first overall pick in the draft and the expectation the Jaguars will draft Trevor Lawrence and many people saying that, I'm not saying Trevor Lawrences hall of Famer, It's like, what's that's way down the road. But the potential of selecting a franchise changing quarterback to go along with a franchise is

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and here's your host, GV. Shadrick. Welcome back, coming down the home stretch of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logaman, Glad you're along with us today on what has been an eventful day for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Nothing official has been announced yet what Urban Meyer is in the building, and they're getting close to a five analized agreement, and if it happens in the next three minutes, we'll give

it to you. If not, stay tuned on Jaguars dot com and Jaguars social media for the latest from t I A. A. Bank Fields so almost so imminent. We keep looking looking through the windows. You're gonna walk to the left going okay, are they gonna come over. We're gonna give us a thumbs up or or or thumbs down. I don't know. Yeah, the white smoke, because Tony said is is uh, maybe they're fir enough to fire right now to put the white smoke. The conversation about some

of the negotiations involved facilities with urban Meyer. Albert Breu reported that Sports Illustrated that the facilities and staffing, facility upgrades and staffing or some of the negotiation in the final final minutes. Yeah, I think staff. The facilities part is a natural. You know, we've had the opportunity to

travel and to watch this Jaguars football team practice. Other teams in Minnesota, Vikings, the New England Patriots, uh Baltimore Ravens, and all of those play has had facilities that were amazing. Minnesota had facilities that were just, I mean off the chart amazing where they essentially are developing an entire area and they have a stadium of many stadium in there that they can actually hold scrimmages and they can host high school football. I mean, they have an orthopedic medical

part to that whole complex. But I mean, if if you wanted to look at where the Jaguars are and where they may be behind compared to other teams in the National Football League, the facilities is probably the biggest one. And that I would think that if verbon Meyer had been him coming from college football or college football. It seems to be the Great Arms race, which is the facilities race. Every couple of years. It's you know, the Ohio States and the Alabama's in the Florida's, I mean,

all those teams and where he's been. I mean, the facilities have been just unbelievable, so coming here and having and look, they work fine and work fine for me, but I mean in the new modern NFL, the facilities need to be upgraded and to attract free agents. When money is even and everything, maybe it makes a difference. And if it, if it does make a difference, then you want to have the best of the best. So

I'm sure that was part of the conversation. I'm sure it was, and I'm sure at some point you will hear the news on that front as well. Logs. Great to see you, great to be seen, Yes, sir, it is, and we'll talk to you next time. Thanks to Joe Fortunato, Trumpada, Brent reeb our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Stay tuned to Jaguars dot com and at Jaguars on social media for the latest whatever it is announced by the Jaguars Urban Meyer in the building. Thank you for watching

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