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So yeah, I'm cool. I'm a big fan of that. That's good stuff. Love that. That's all coming up this week. The Jags and the Chargers game in week fourteen, right around the corner at four oh five Sunday, here's what's coming up on the show today. The quarterback change will break all that down. Coming up. Jags looking for just to win, just get get in the right direction. We'll see how they can do that. They're facing Philip Rivers. They haven't done that a lot against Rivers over the

history of this matchup the Chargers and the Jags. Four games left in the season, and we'll go around the a f C South all that coming up. Four games left, Yes, four games left, the final chore of the season. Now you're kind of counting them down down in the stretch for me, and that's I know, players and coaches, I mean, they've got a job to do, and their job is to win football games. But I think most people outside of that are are counting it down because mathematically they're alive.

Reality they're not. They're out of the playoff race. It's done. So do you ever watch that movie Dumb and Dumber saying there's a chance, there is, but it's gonna take a lot of help. In reality, it ain't happening. Jp they're playing for their resume, here's the reality. There's a chance mathematically, but it's very small. And you're talking about a football team that has lost the last four games

by an average of twenty point five points. That's a lot. Okay, So to say that they mathematically have a possibility that would be accurate, but that's a long way from something that actually will occur. I may you're you're you're struggling right now as a football team in so many different ways, I mean, as a as an offense, as a defense, organizationally,

the it's not good right now. And uh, I think a lot of people are are less concerned about what happens in these four games and are more concerned about what happens after these four games because people are expecting change. Uh. Fans are expecting change. Uh, and that and that's natural. I mean, it's professional sports. Is is a is not a very patient deal, especially well especially, you know, especially an organization that has not had a lot of winning

like this one. I mean, we were hoping that it was gonna be the new new, But the farther we get away from it, the more it's become just an aberration instead of instead of the norm. You know, because you you consistently are trying to always build a consistent winner, and the consistent winning has not found its way into Jacksonville yet. And at some point you need you need to institute some type of change that that brings that to the forefront. And and until you do, it's gonna

be some more of the same. Possibly the biggest change on the field last week at the quarterback position, Nick Foles pulled from the game at halftime. Gardner Mins You finished the game, and then it was announced on Monday that Gardnerments will be the starting quarterback the rest of the way, starting this week against the Los Angeles Chargers. Mence You, of course started eight games earlier in the season. What did he learn from those experiences? We heard from

the quarterback this week. A lot of times when you're playing, you got a million different things that you're having to focus in on, uh, and you kind of lose some of the bigger stuff. Uh, I guess I should say some of smaller stuff sometimes. UM. But when you when you're out of that role, you can kind of step back and see the little details, and UM, it was

a really good experience for me. So that he's talking about being set back down on the bench behind Nick Foles a few weeks there and having a having it slowed down a little bit, and maybe you know, in a game environment, it comes at your quick. On the sideline you can see somebody else go through it. And that's at least the way he put it this week. Well, I think you're you're always in a position that you can learn, whether you're playing or whether you're watching or whatever.

And I think sometimes it is good to take a step back and to kind of re evaluate where you are at versus where the game is at and where

you need to be at. And so I think there is some benefit for a young player playing for a while and then stepping away and then watching someone else do it, and then coming back into the lineup, uh, and then also having having the chance and I know a lot of people are down on Nick Foles, and look, I get it, but also having an opportunity to watch Nick Foles how he goes about his business, because look, Nick Foles is a pro. Uh. People are have a

right to criticize him for his play. And I understand that I wasn't a big fan of the booing so much or the Minshoe chance, although I have it's part. It's pro sports, and look, you gotta have thick you gotta have thick skin, and and that's the way it is. I get I mean, hell, I was booed when I was drafted. I wasn't even in the NFL, and I was getting my rear end booed. I mean, I get it. I mean, look, I mean it's part of the two. I mean back then, I had to have thick skin.

I went to a a tough market where they weren't really thrilled with the hometown team drafting me. And uh, that's just the way life goes. And you move on. And so Nick Foles will have to move on and Minho was just gonna have to accept the fact that quarterbacks get booted and at some point maybe he gets booed, and hopefully he doesn't. But yeah, I'm excited to watch him play because when he came in, there was a very apparent lift of whatever you wanna call it. Something changed.

Uh there's a little sparks, some energy, whatever that word. But it wasn't. But it wasn't just in the stadium, because you can feel the energy change in the stadium because the people that were wanting Minshew in the lineup got him. But then all of a sudden, the defense comes out in the in the first half, and uh and they do a good job of getting a sack, callst fumble. Well wait a minute, where was the defense the whole first half? Where were the big plays in

the first half? And uh, So it wasn't just offense, it was offense, it was in the stands, it was with the defense. And and I said this a couple of weeks ago. We're talking about Minshew and him having moxie, and uh and I that moxie seemed to carry itself over into other aspects of this football team. The the disappointing thing is that this game was so close to being I mean a game. I'm talking, hold onto the seat of your pants. This thing is back being a

football game. And all it took was one more score that have been down seven. And people say, well, deed, he should have caught the ball. Okay. Uh. People say well, the Jaguars should have run the football every down on first and goal from the one. Well, here's what I say to that, and to all that. On first down of Flettard, Fournette goes the right way, it's a walk in touchdown on first and goal at the one on

third down, which was the interception. Yeah, did he would He's opportunity, He's got his hands on the ball, catch it right, Uh, not an easy catch. Well, on that play, I would say, well, Gardner Minch has gotta make the right throw. And that's that was said in the media this week as well. Gardner said that d Filippo said that today an opportunity. Yeah, there was keeling call all on the end zone. So there's three things that could have and and if one of those three things happens,

now you've got a seven point game. A seven point game in which you had a game that that there was there was no belief, no oh chance that this team was going to get back in It was twenty five nothing. I mean, look, I wish I wish it. I wish they had made the play to make it a seven point game, because then it would have been. It was getting close to being fun, but not quite. The big picture question now around the quarterback position, there are a couple of big picture questions around the team.

Of course, are you know what the decision who will be making the decisions at quarterback? But then the smaller question about the quarterback is what is the future for Nick Foles at the position? Now? Well, I don't think anybody knows. Well I do know this. It doesn't make any sense to let in the future. I don't care who's making the decisions. I mean, you're you gave him fifty something million guaranteed, and what are you gonna do? You and cut that and absorb another even bigger dead

money cap pit by letting Nick Foles go. I mean, I think that's part of the problems organizationally that you've had. I mean, you sign Bordles to an extension and gave him I think twenty six million guaranteed, and now you've got all this dead money that's stuck on your cat this year and he's not even on your football team. And then and now you've got the same type situation again. And uh, I mean, as an owner, you can't be happy with that. I mean, we're we're talking we're talking

real money. First of all, it's real money, okay, that's that's tangible touch cash money, coal harp cash money. Number two, it affects your ability to do other things. When I say other things, well, does it affect your ability to to go acquire a free agent, yes, does it affect your ability to keep more of your own guys, yes. So so these are the decisions that have have hampered this franchise. And that can't happen when you pay that kind of money. You've got to be able to be

getting something for your money. So the future Nick Foles, I think it's gonna be on this football team. Just from a cap standpoint, wouldn't make sense to let him go and then eat up the dead money and not even get a backup out of it. So, and who's to say that next year, all a sudden, you've got an open competition and it's and maybe it's a three way competition. Maybe you have a high picked first round rookie and then Gardner Minshew and Nick falls and say

best man win, Good luck, gentlemen. And there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book, because you can never have too many quarterbacks. You have to constantly search and tell you you do not rest until you find your franchise guy and I and look at Gardner Minshew has such a small sample size. You're not gonna sit there and go, oh yeah, yeah, we we We've got our quarterback. We're good. He's got plenty of the same thing about Leonard Fournette. Just because you draft the

Leonard Fournet, does that make you stop drafting running backs? No, it shouldn't. It probably stops you from drafting him in the top ten, but well, yeah, I mean it might change that. But here's still have to have players. Yeah, and there's another guy in the top ten. It's gonna be better than him. I mean I'm talking way better, like generation, like Adrian Peterson or something. So right, there's there's a It's gonna be an interesting four weeks and

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be one of our goals. Todd Washed, defensive coordinator, discussing Philip Rivers, quarterback for the Los Angeles Chargers, and welcome back to Jaguars Happy our JP Shattrick with Jeff Logaman coming up at five o'clock the Doug Morone Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. That coach in studio, planning to discuss with him this week. He's gonna be uh sporting some cool shoes for the my calls Mike Leats deal too, I think, correct, correct, we'll have a look at those

if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com. Gonna have later, I think. So we're working on this. We're efforting. Yeah, that'd be nice to have. We're for ck So that's coming up a little bit later today. Um let's start on defense though, with the big news today of Miles Jack going on an injured reserve. He missed last week's game and now he's gonna miss the rest of the games this season. He's done, Miles back, done for the year. Logs. What kind of I think when he was out there?

Not a very good one. I mean, if you look, if you if you if you put the standard at being the the year that he had two years ago or or compared to like Lesnis years, Miles Jack was not having not having a good year. He had a he had a good stretch, you know, good stretch of games there for a little bit. We're talking about the the games against uh, the Saints he played pretty well, Bengals, he played pretty well, the Jets, he played pretty well.

I thought Cincinnati might might have been his best game. That you're talking about probably the worst football team that they played, I mean, and arguably the worst football team that there is in the NFL this year. You know. Oh no, I mean, he wasn't having a good year. It's disappointing. Obviously, send the big contract before the season and then this was gonna be okay, let's see. This

is where he takes off and proves all that. And well, when you when you get at when you get a contract extension and uh, and like I've always said this, it's never about the money. But when you do get one, I think as a player, your natural reaction is and look, you want to play well because you don't ever want to give people the impression. And I'm not saying that that Miles the level of play that he exhibited was

a result of the contract. I'm not saying that, but as a player, when you do get a contract, whether you're Andrew Norwell or Miles Jack or whoever, the quarterback Nick Foles, you always want to have your level of play at a certain level to where people go, oh, yeah, he's worth it, you know. And when it's not there, then, uh, the voices or the criticism seemed to get a little bit louder. And and I get it. I understand it. It's professional football, and in some cases it's warranted. In

some cases it's not. I think some people are educated about it and understand what the expectations are. I think some people are a little bit unrealistic because some people expect just because a guy gets, for example, Nicole twenty two million a year, he should lead us to a super Bowl. Oh, there's a lot of quarterbacks out there. They're making twenty two million, and they're not all going to super Bowl. It's just part of the deal, you know.

It's part of the economics of of paying professional athletes. Now, with Miles Jack down, let's take a look at the linebacker room. Now for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it is Jake Ryan is up Lye and Leon Jacobs is up. Donald Payne started at middle linebacker last week. He was on the street a few weeks ago, sitting on the couch. Quincy Williams has been here all year, but he was out of the line up. A good bit of rookie awesome.

And then Joe Giles Harris promoted again from the practice squad today when Miles Jack went down, and you look at the injury deserve guys. Of course, now Miles Jack nag good, DJ Alexander on Wallly, those guys were earlier in the season, but that's a it's a thin group on that linebacker. Well. And Jake Ryan came back off the nf I Non foot Football Injury list last week and he's been playing special teams only the last week,

and I can tell he's not ready to play. You watch him on on special teams and he's favoring the knee that he had had injured. It doesn't appear that he he runs full speed. I think that was maybe one of those things. Well, hey, let's let's get him out there and maybe maybe he can get back up to speeds while he's playing, and I hope he does. I mean because look, I mean, when you when you're out for that long, he's missed a lot of time, a lot of football, and it's it's probably hard to

get back up to speed. But my opinion from watching him in this past week's game, he's not ready, you know, so you gotta you gotta linebacking corps. That's pretty thin. You're looking at a lot of undrafted guys that are gonna be taking some time. The newly promoted Giles Harris off the practice squad. He was an undrafted guy from Duke. Donald Payne was an undrafted guy from the Baltimore Ravens. I think calltro is even an undrafted guy. Quincy Williams

hasn't been playing all that well. I think Leon Jacobs I think it's played pretty well this year when given the opportunity. He had a sack last week. Um, but I mean this defense right now is two things. One, it's struggling to stay healthy and I think it's also number two. I think it's struggling to find talent. That's the reality. That's where they are right now. This is this is it just the back end of the of

the defense last week. I want to say that there was at one point there was like four out of the five undrafted guys, and maybe all four at the same time when they're in base personnel. All of the secondary members were all undrafted. Includes a J boy, a who's now he has been an All Pro, he was undrafted. I I'm not I'm not trying to criticize make them make a negative point. I'm just trying to point that out that I mean, it can be a negative. But in a J Boy's case, I'm not saying that that's

a negative because he has been a pro bowler. But I will say A J didn't play great last week. But the other guys are young, you know, and in one of them, you just you just shipped out in Brian Borders, who was an undrafted guy, and uh, you released him. So life comes at you fast in the NFL. And uh, the guy that they promoted this week, I'm sure we're gonna see him, Perry Nickerson. We haven't even mentioned him. He was activated from the practice squad because

Brian Borders was released. Nickerson, who was a six round pick of the Jets back in the eight team, has been on the practice squad doesn't have the size that a Brion Borders has, but you know, hopefully he can he can show something when give an opportunity or if he gets an opportunity. Philip Rivers is six and two all time against the Jaguars. The two losses were against the last two Jaguars playoff teams and years apart seven And um, he's been very good against this team passing yards.

That's nearly three game, twenty one touchdowns, five picks against one touchdowns, five interceptions all time against the Jags. Pretty good, yes, And he he's had a passer rating of over one five four times out of those eight games. He has been outstanding against this Jaguars football team. And uh, he played better last week for the Chargers. And I'm gonna

try to not say the hometown of the Chargers. That's my goal this whole week, for the rest of the week is to not say l A or San Diego because I will screw it up and I will say San Diego. I've already done it once. You already said it today, did I did already say it? Well, just now you just said sang just gonna be in your head. But but I'm not saying anything. I'm going just Chargers. Chargers. Yeah, Chargers, the Charger, Chargers, Charger. He has been the Chargers quarterback

his old troup. Now he's been pretty good, and last week he played better against a Broncos football team that was starting a rookie. H had over a hundred rating and one of six rating. The previous two games, he was pretty pathetic. Seven picks in those two games combined, and he literally cost his team in football games and both the games against Oakland and Kansas City, he was not good, and uh, he was playing at the level.

Put it this way, he was playing like if the head coach is gonna have to make a decision, he would think about if. Okay, he continued on. Philip Rivers continued on that path and goes and shows up against the Broncos and plays like that again. As a head coach, you gotta think about pulling a Dug Marone taking him out, right, I mean it's tough to take that guy out of the loan. You're talking about a guy who's six all time and passing yards. Yes, phenomenal. Right, Taylor, come on down.

Replacing Philip Rivers for Tyrod Taylor. Let that settle in for you. Let that settle in from Hey, if you're playing bad, you're playing bad. You know this is a team, though, and you got to give him the opportunity to bounce back. I mean, you're you're talking about a possible Hall of Famer, and a couple of years ago, I remember watching Philip Rivers and I said he was done then. And also he had arguably one of the best years he's ever had when he got Ken Wizzen Hunt back as an

offensive coordinator. Well, he said Ken this year, Ken got fired earlier in the year. And then they've promoted another guy to be the offensive coordinator this year. And the new offensive coordinator has been in place for four games, and I want to make sure Shane Stetching, I think it's how you pronounce his name. And they've run the

ball a lot more. And uh, from all indications, the way they've been running that offense this year, and especially with the new offensive coordinator, it is very apparent that they don't trust Philip Rivers to win any more football games by himself. Melvin Gordon held out early in the season and took him a few games, and the decision the last four games or so, he's gotten some yards better there, he's been gotten better. But what a mistake.

Who who is advising him to hold out going into his fifth year when he was a first round pick and they have his rights because they had the option on him, they exercise the option. He's gonna hold out for what? You think you're gonna get a new contract? And you think you're Ezekiel Elliot. This is a this is a guy he had one He had a thousand yards season one time one time, and it wasn't even last year. But yeah, you're gonna hold out and try

to get a contract extension. And all it did is it It hurt himself and it hurt the Chargers football team. And I don't think they recovered from it, and and it's a shame. And he's a good football player. And I remember when he was coming out in the draft, Melvin Gordon, and I'll say, this is uh Wisconsin guy, right, Yeah, he's a Wisconsin guy. He in that draft because it was him and Todd Gurley and uh and watching both

of them, Gurley I thought was the better back. But man, when you talked about open field running, Melvin Gordon was by far the best open field runner or space runner that there was in that draft. He was special, really special and uh and he's a good football player and he's starting to get that groove again. Y had I think twenty carries for ninety nine yards against the Broncos past game, and they've made a concerted effort to give

him the football. But it's not just him, Eckler, the running back who is their backup and who was kind of their bell cow until until Gordon got back into lineup. I mean, this guy is on pace for a thousand yards receiving. It's amazing from running back. Doesn't happen often. Now he's got he's got more catches, I think then Leonard Fournette, he's got sixty nine and what's four Nett got right over sixty five, So he's got four more catches than Leonard four Nette. And he's got uh got receiving.

He's got seven eighteen yards receiving with what four games to go. Yeah, it's pretty good. He's throw around. Not many running backs in league history have ever been at a thousand. I know, Roger Craig, I think Marshall Falk might have been able to do it. Um sure who else has done it. Gosh, there's only a handful. I mean there's the there's not a lot, by the way before new Larry Centers. Larry Centers do it for the first Cardinals. Well for net this year four four yards

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lender and the official bank of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back to Jaguars. Happy I with your Jaguars Digital Update. I'm Ashland Sullivan injury news for you. D Westbrook, Ronnie Harrison and Seth Deval All did not practice today. Ronnie Harrison still doing with that concussion unsure if he will play on Sunday. Miles Jack plays on i RD. That means Donald Payne will get the start yet again this week.

And obviously all eyes are on Gardner Minshew and if you can be the franchise quarterback and prove that in these next four weeks. For now, he's just focused on Sundays. Yeah. I don't think there's any time, at any point of game where you're out there and you're thinking, oh, we don't have anything to play for. I'm playing to beat the crap of the guy across from me, you know. And that doesn't matter whether in practice, whether in games. I don't need some kind of extra incentive to go

out and compete, you know. Stay tuned. Head coach dun Marone coming up at five o'clock for the Dug Marone Show and we're Happy Hour. Coming up next was celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football and he should be over ten thousand yards and congratulations to the great Fred Taylor Back, Jaguars, Happy ur j P Shadrick, Jeff Logoman, Ashland Sullivan with the update there and the Jags and the Chargers. Tea and up at four oh five Sunday

at t I A A bank Field. Busy schedule at Daily's Place coming up by the way, meet in Greece with Danny and Sandy, John Travolta and Olivy Newton John that's December January first New Year's Day All Elite wrestling Dynamite Kane Brown has two scheduled concerts at Daily's Place March and May sixteen. Tickets available at Daily's Place dot com. I like what Gardner said there. He wants to beat the crap out of the guy lined up across from him,

doesn't need any extra motivation. You love that kind of thing, man, That's what it's about. It's good. I mean, look, there's not a lot of quarterbacks are beating anybody up, you know. But what he's talk he wants to win and uh and that's good. I mean, that's uh that I think that's part of what makes competitors who they are and uh and look great competitors. It doesn't matter if they're fishing, playing chess, checkers, playing horse out in the driveway with

your kid. I want to win and uh, and I like that. I'll have that attitude. So hopefully there's a lot of guys that has that type of attitude to have will have that type of attitude this weekend, because I can tell you I've been on football teams where the the the season is is lost and uh, there's nothing on the horizon that you're looking for that you can tangibly touch as far as reward wise. And it's

not easy to play motivated football. It's not. That's when you you gotta start digging deep and saying, hey, look, I'm a pro, and I wear my name on my back and everything that I do, my actions and and my words are everything about me and who I am, and I have to make sure that people see what is the best of me. And that's that's not easy to do. Gus Bradley, the defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles should say that that's not easy for some to do.

Correct others can Some it's it's just natural, you just do it, but some sometimes not. Some others don't. And as coaches are the same way, there's some coaches that that are putting their nose to the grindstone and trying to help this football team or trying to help their football team. And there's other coaches that get in a scenario like this and the doors closed to the office,

they're on the phone. They're taking long walks and taking breaks to dial people up on the phone and try to find their next job or line up their next job instead of worrying about taking care of business right now. And that's, uh, that's an at I mean, it's it's natural, and I'm sure there's people that can do both, all right, then get a team ready and work the phones for their next job. So it's a it's an unfortunate kind of a deal. That's the way it is. Let's talk

about this Chargers defense now. Gus Bradley still the coordinator there, but they have it's some really good pass rushers, obviously, Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, these guys can get home and posted this year with forty six tackles, eight and a half sacks, thirty four quarterback hits, Is that right, the right? That's a lot. Yeah, he wasn't very good this past game against Denver. He uh he missed some tackles. The what's the running back for Denver Lindsay, Philiplins. He was

not very good against Philip Lindsay. I didn't do a great job of getting pressure. But I mean, look for the most part, him and Ingram are fantastic. I mean, probably two of the best edge guys in the National Football League. That defense also added Derwin James. They got him back last week off of I don't know if they had a five list or I R. Whatever. He had a metatarsal foot injury back in camp and they got him back in the lineup. And Derwin James is

a difference baker, and so you add him. And then they also got Adrian Phillips back, who's a safety and other safety. But I mean to go back to the original guys we were talking about. BOTHA Ingram really good football players. I mean, Joey Bosa has thirty seven career sacks and forty seven games. That's getting after it now, thirty seven and forty seven. Let's compare that to H. Gockway. Dockway has thirty five and a half and fifty nine thirty nine and a half and fifty nine. Bosa thirty

seven and forty seven A little difference right there. Uh, Boas has obviously got a better sack per game number. Melvin Ingram is, Uh, he doesn't have the sack numbers. He's got forty seven and a half career and he is in his eighth year. So I mean it's not like he's averaging like double digits a year, and he's not Von Miller or anything. But he is a really

good football player. I think what makes him a challenge is that, first of all, he's a good edge rusher, but then they will stand him up and then rush him, kind of like what the Texans and now the Seattle Seahawks are doing with Clowney, and then they'll put him standing up over of guard. And so he's tough from that aspect, and uh and uh he's great and open space,

he can drop, he can do everything. And then they added in the all season Thomas Davis Jr. Who was the longtime Carolina Panther, and the guy seems absolutely ageless. Fifteen years in the National Football League, three reconstructive knee surgeries, and all he's doing is leading the chargers and tackles. I mean, are you kidding me? And he He reminds me of the Sam Mills, the uh uh London Fletcher, uh, the guys that played middle linebacker that played for you

know a long time. And he's and he's a really good football player. He's and he's playing in an era now where linebackers are expected to be able to play a lot in space, which you know, some of the old time linebackers, you know where they were, you know, smash guards and and box linebackers and they didn't have to it out in space and cover guys. I mean, today's linebacker you have the plane space and Thomas David Jr. Can still or senior can still play in space, which

is impressive. One note a small detail here, but the Chargers. The Chargers official defensive statistics are based on their coaches film review. The NFL official statistics are a little different. Obviously, the sacks are what they are for botha eight and a half. The Chargers have him as fifteen and a half tackles for lost and thirty four quarterback hits. The league has him at twelve tackles for loss and twenty

one quarterback hits. So there's just a little difference. In the winter Chargers, you're talking about Yeah, I'm just talking about in general stats is going off the league numbers. It's a little lower. That's why I was like, thirty four hits doesn't seem right. It's officially NFL has a missed twenty one whatever. Either way, the Chargers, the only

thing that they're probably missing a little bit. They had a cornerback that got suspended a couple of couple of weeks ago for or I think it was for performance enhancing drugs. You got suspended for two games, and that was Michael Davis. He started nine games until his suspension, and so he is out this week against the Jaguar. So he missed the Denver game, and the previous week he was out because it was a bye, and so this is the second game that he means before he

goes back to the active roster. What's your confidence level in the Jaguars tackles right now against this group, Cam Robinson. I didn't play very well last week. I mean that, uh, you know, give me, give me a positive performance a week before and I'll feel good about it. But I you know, with the Jaguars tackles didn't have a positive performance last week. So I mean there's no reason to think that that they can handle boths in Ingram. So I think this is gonna be a tough matchup for

for both guys, both Cam and Juan. I mean, Juan had a rough outing last week. Quarterback got to help him out a little bit though, um And I think having minsh you out out there will will certainly help. But I when you think about it, the two sacks and calls fumbles that went over Juwan Taylor, one of them was was definitely on Nick and it was who

is the defensive end, the guy formerly of the Cleveland Browns. Anyway, the defensive end, he comes in and Nick sees him coming and he's holding on the ball, and then he sees him coming and he still doesn't protect the football on the balls that's not on Juwan. The other one, which was Shaq Barrett, got the sack calls fumble the first one, and uh, Nick Foles is in shotgun and he takes a couple of steps back in his in his back foot or his body is at nine yards deep.

I mean, look, it's hard for a tackle to protect the quarterback. Who are or where the aiming point for a pass rusher is nine yards deep? That's that's hard. And the quarterbacks gotta help Juan Taylor out there. Step up. You know what they call climb the ladder? Okay, Nick, climb the ladder? Oh, anytime climb the ladder. Well, he didn't. Karl Nassa was the other guy, Jack. Thank you. Let's come back in a moment. Standings in the a f C South, the Jags are out of the race and

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Jaguars Happy Hour. My name's j P. Shadrick, his name's Jeff Logovan, the Jags and the champion four oh five Kick Yeah, I wonder I guess that four four o'clock. I don't know. I don't quite get that. Well, the Chargers West Coast teams a lot of times they to have them, you know, have a they don't want to start at ten am their time. A lot of sometimes they sometimes I'm with you, I got yes, too bad. Sorry about it, fellas, But I think that's part of it.

I mean it. Uh, when we have a game in London, it's early here. Uh okay, sure, So what's the problem. Uh, there was a game last week, the forty Niners played a one o'clock game in Baltimore, and it's problem. I don't know, but I think it just happened sometimes. Well, you weren't at one o'clock. Uh. Well, I'm concerned about my fantasy picks. JP. Well you should be, because you've had some issues. I didn't want to say my fantasy guys,

I'm not very good this year. JP. You happen to have a hole a golden horseshoe up your You know what I think I did? Okay, I had Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. That's pretty good week. I got a little bit criticized for picking those guys. I don't know why. Well, I mean, it wasn't Henry was going against the coals. It wasn't me. Probably, Yeah, he knows it all. He knows it all. Just asking. I'll tell you the a f C South standings after Week thirteen. Oh boy, it's

not pretty Houston, Tennessee, Indy, Jacksonville. The Jags are out of the race of the a f C side. What a great game that the Texans played against the New England Patriots. Wow, it's the first time I think that the Texans have defeated the New England Patriots. And congratulations to them. Certainly is Roe Brian the former assistant, Yeah, they they are. They made Tom Brady look mortal, which has happened a couple of times. Now. Ravens did that

to him as well. It's it's interesting dynamic there when the defense is leading the way. It's like the early days of the Patriots dynasty. Right. It was a defensive led team until Brady kind of got things together a few years in and then it turned into an offensive team. Now it's kind of going back the other way. Not the Brady is bad. I'm not saying that, trust me. Tom, If you're watching, I did not say that he's not watching. I'm just saying, just in case the word gets back,

he's still playing. He's still a very good quarterback, but they don't have the parts that they've had on offensive. I think the one thing I've always appreciated about the Patriots is they they never felt that where they were in the season was where they were gonna end up.

They continually improved throughout the year, and I think that's always been the one of the calling cards of a Bill Belichick coach football team and a Patriot football team is that they do get better throughout the course of the year, and then they do seem to be playing always play their best football once they get you know, the postseason, and look, a's the It's the greatest franchise in NFL history. And if you if you doubt them for a second, they will make you look stupid because

they will prove you wrong. They're that good. Let's take a look at the AFC South schedule this week. The game's involving divisional teams, and we start off with the Broncos at the Texans four and eight Denver eight and for Houston, it's a one o'clock kickoff Sunday in the Texans Broncos Drew lock Back in the lineup for his second start of the game. How about it was easy? He last week they threw the deep ball and got

the past interference late to get the field goal. But I thought that was a bad call and it was a call on Casey Hayward Jr. And they were actually gonna take a knee, And the head coach of the Denver Broncos said no, no, no, no, just throw it up and hopefully we can get something positive. Happened. They did get the call and a rolled the field goal union out there and they got a last second victory and it just crushed the San Diego Chargers morale and

Charging Rock coming. He knew it's coming. How you knew it? Charge Chargers, Chargers, Chargers, Chargers Hight the Colts at the Yes, that's gonna be a good football game. Now Bucks at home and uh. Jamis Winston had his streak of six consecutive three and a plush yard passing games broken against the Jaguars. But they were super efficient as an offense. They did a pretty good job protecting the football. Jamis didn't throw an interception. That's gonna be a good football game.

The Chargers Jacks obviously four o'clock Titans Raiders. That's not a gimme game for the Titans and whatsoever. The Raiders are up and down, but when they're up, they played pretty well there at home. And they're at home and it that's their second to the last home game and there in their organizational history in Oakland. The last game will be next week. That's right, I guess the Jaguars, which that's gonna be scary, now scared, I'm not scared. It sounds like I'm just telling you this. I will

wear black. I thought nothing intimidated. You're intimidated by the mike, not have any I might not have any logo to pail. I might just wear like all be the Johnny Cash. You know it's that way. I'm kind of I'm kind of uh franchise neutral. Right, it's gonna be a scene out is that place? Uh? That place is gonna be crazy? Now, yes, it is. It's gonna be crazy. Let's take a look at the a f C playoff picture after last week's games coming into Week fourteen, and of course, the division leaders.

The Ravens are the number one seed currently, the Patriots right there at number two, Houston, Kansas. Any the wild card if it ended today, would be Buffalo and Pittsburgh. The Titans are knocking on the door, Raiders, Colts, and then the Browns at five and seven. You go on out from the How about Buffalo? Now? You know it's a good football team, quarterbacks playing better. He can throw and run obviously, you can do all that stuff. I mean, they they lost that game early in the year to

the Patriots, and they're good. When do they play the Patriots again? That's a that's a good question because that's a game that I would really like to see. And uh, I want to say the first game they play them weeks sixteen, where's it at? It's at New England. Yeah, yeah, I thought the first matchup was in Buffalo, So I mean that's I think that's gonna be a good matchup. I mean, you're talking about a Buffalo built teham been

playing pretty well. Patriots team that has, you know, I mean that's been greatly Look at this schedule now for the Bills coming up home against the Ravens this week at the Steelers, another wild card team right now, they win that game, but there you go. I mean Pittsburgh in the hunt. How about the turnaround that Mike Tomlin has been able to do in Pittsburgh with nothing. They getting the quarterbacks hurt like every what has happened. All the guys are going like, I mean, they get guys

suspended from from the whole deal with the Browns. You know, he lost pouncy. Uh. I mean, you could make an argument that he's coach of the Year if they get in And you're talking about the duck calling quarterback who has been was Devin Hodges? Hodges has been good the story on that right. He's a national duck calling champion, Yes he has. Uh, he has competed in numerous Duck's Unlimited Calling Championship contests and he's won. And uh, who was it? What's the guy that we got benched right

for him? The one that was involved with the with the helmet swinging incident with Myles Garrett. What was his name again? Is that terrible camera he was? He was bad. I mean Rudolph Mason thinking he's not a good quarter I remember he got hitting the chops a few weeks before that and knocked out Coal on the field. And he's not. I don't care about that. I just know this. He's not a good quarterback. And uh if if they kept him as their backup, Wow, you want to talk

about forcing a draft pick on your roster. What did they see in him that made them go wow? Yeah, he's pretty good. He could be our future and from what I've seen out of him, pretty poor play. There's still a lot of business to attend to in the a f C South. Of course, Houston and Tennessee played twice down the stretch here in the next four weeks of business, and they're one week apart, right this week

fifteen and seven. Uh in Houston, I'm sorry, in uh, Tennessee the first time and at Houston the second time. What a great way, what a great way to finish the division ray by having the top two meet twice in the last three weeks of the season. Right, and then the Colts, Let's see what they have coming down the stretch here. They have at Bucks this week at the Saints home against the Panthers at the jack So three out of four on the road for them, including

a trip here to Jacksonville in weeks seventeen. So you know, if they if they come through and get some wins. The other two you never know, never know. It's it's a tight division. I don't know, but I think it's a I think Texans obviously got the upper hand, but it could be anybody's division when it comes down to it. Thursday Night football tonight, the Dallas Cowboys at six and six, the Chicago Bears at six and SI Bears. You got the Bears at home win. No, I got Cowboys winning.

And there's a lot going on in Dallas these I know there's a lot going on in Dallas, And I know Troy Aikman had some pretty strong words about the the structure or the way that that organization operates. And I think Troy was pretty much on pointness comments about that organization, and he would know Jerry Jones is I don't want to say it undermines the head coach, but yeah, it hunderminds the head coach. Is essentially what Troy said and a lot of things that he does. And and

I totally get where Troy was coming from. And uh, the daily updates on from Jerry Jones sometimes can be a little tiring, I think for for the organization as all far as far as football team and the coaching staff. Yeah, Jerry just needs to, you know, back off a little bit. He is the owner of the football team. I know he's the owner. Hey, look, you can criticize some of the picks he's had, there's no doubt general manager to right, that's right. But but he is the owner of the

firing Jerry. No, he's not not at all. Alright, final thoughts here the by the way, Dug Morones show coming up in a couple of minutes on the Jaguars Radio network. Four games to go again, let's rehash it to hear the Jacks at home this week, on the road the next two weeks after that, and then back home right before New Year's to face the Indianapolis Colts. Jags of four and eight and the last four haven't really been that close. And that's the frustrating thing right now, is

that you're really just starting to play out the string here. Well, I think, uh, I think there's gonna there's I mean, there's always a lot to play for as as an as an individual, as an athlete. I mean there's future contracts, you have incentive money, per pride, you know, the the respect for your teammates. I mean all those things come into play, and so there's a lot of reasons for this football team to play well. And this Chargers football team is kind of looking the same boat they are,

you know so, but they have been more competitive. If you look at the scores, They've been in a lot of football games. I want to say, how many what seven or eight there's out of their eight losses within a score, which is not the case with the Jaguars from that stat that I gave earlier. So yeah, it's goods good, and this is a this is a good matchup now for for the Chargers. We gotta we got a rookie quarterback, two really good edge players, two tackles

that didn't play well last week. Uh, I know that I'll be writing my little piece for John O'shure's the Expert's column. We'll be righting at the Johnny Oh tonight. And I don't know where I'm gonna fall on the map as far as any kind of predictions, but you could probably figure it out. I mean, when you lose four games in a row by five points a game probably gonna go with the Chargers. It's not a good matchup. We'll see if the Jackson get it on track. We're

back in a moment on the Jaguars Radio Network. That Doug Morrown Show is next. Thank you for listening and watching the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.