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finishing the season. Some big question is about the future. What is the future of the organization. We'll find out after the season is over. Colts Jaguar's Preview will take a look at this game coming up. Quarterback play and that's slowing down the Colts running game, something that Jaguars did not do last time out. We'll see if they can do it this week in week seventeen here at t I A A. Bankfield. What's up, guys, Hey, welcome

back Mary post Christmas? Right, I tell you what I need the first of the year again here because I need to stop eating it's out of control. The amount of sweets and like desserts in my house right now, and that I cannot stop eating. It's so bad. I'm eating like cookies and pound cake and for for breakfast. Join the club. It's like out of Actually, I've taken a page out of his playbook and I have gained I think eight pounds in the last week. Out of control.

It's that time of years, in the holidays. I just got to get to the first of the year, and it's clean eating for me. I just done. I haven't done a very good job. You have a lot of wiggle room. You have some room that I mean eight pounds for me, that's a lot immediately, not like that. But I can tell you what it's been damn good. That's the problem. I enjoying the last week. So a week seventeen. Jaguars Football twenty nineteen coming to a close.

It's good. I mean, it's I mean it's good. I mean, look, I mean it's been a lousy season. That it's coming to an end. I mean, I'm glad it's coming to an end. And mean, to be perfectly honest with you, I mean it's this is when you want to just go ahead and tie the bow on this season and then then move on. I mean, there's no other two

ways around. And you know, I mean, you want to want to have some type of positivity to end the year, but you're at the point now where I don't know if you can find any type of positivity to end the year on. And you know, I go back to all the way back to the very first year of the franchise, and Tonty remember this. I think we won our last game of the year. We did. We beat Cleveland and we stunk and we knew it. And that

was after losing seventh straight. But I mean, I don't want to say that propelled us into the off season, but at least it gave us a little bit of a taste of success to where it kind of gave us a little bit of drive for the all season ago. You know, we want more of that. But it was such a difference in aario, but it was totally different.

That's my point. Expectations that yes, we're I mean, they were just happy we were in the league, and you know, we had some early wins and we were a young team and we had I mean, you know, rookies and first year players all over the field, and we were competitive at the end of the year for most the most part two outside of the Detroit game, And yeah, that was a bad one. That was day they were

taking a knee. Was a rough dad at the office and what what what time was on the clock when we were taking it, like about ten minutes left in the game there first and going to five and this TOI three nuts and gave us the ball. Might have been the worst game ever. And I'm glad I wasn't a part of it. Yeah, I was, unfortunately part of that.

The best was your language. The best was shut out. Okay, the best we were down like forty four nothing, and we decided we're gonna go two minutes for the whole fourth quarter because like we have a great chance to get it back into and Robert Proche Prochet on the rushing full speed. But yeah, in the difference, I think with Jeff saying he's right because let's say the Jacks win this week, and but does it make him feel any better about anything that's happened this year? Does it

make you feel better going in the off season? I don't think. I don't think it does. Yeah, I think it would be you'd have a hard time. You want to win the game, you want to win. But well, you always want to win. But do you well, I mean, you could argue in the big picture, no, you want to lose. You want to lose the game because you have better draft, a better draft pick. But if you're a player on that team, you're not worry You don't

care about the draft picks. As a player, you want to go out and win because every time you staid on the field, you're competitive. We want to win. I mean, but if you look at take the players out, where could you go? I mean if if, for example, the Jaguars right now, the draft pick is like sixth overall, and then if you win, you probably go to ten or eleven. I mean that's a that's a significant drop. And if you lose, you might go to four. So

and and here here's the point. Most drafts, and obviously as a player and as a team, you don't want to talk about any of that. But as as as as how the draft goes, typically most of them have the elite, and the elite are typically anywhere from four or five guys, maybe going to seven guys at the top of the draft. If you're lucky now said, and then then it becomes then it drops to and it's not a big drop, but I mean typically it's viewed as they dropped down to the next level of athlete.

And so if you can stay in that top part of where that elite is, that's I mean, you're never going to a game thinking that as a player or a coach, as a team, but I think as a franchise, when you look at a big picture, you can look at it and look at it that way, right, and we can look at it that way. Absolutely, we're on the radio, were supposed to look at it that way.

I mean, for the for the long term future of this franchise, is it better that you win a game that doesn't have any significance whatsoever, or to lose it. I'll give you a perfect example. Was it five years ago, six years old, no, seven, eight years ago? It was probably the Colts last game of the year. Came in here, neither team was going to the playoffs, neither team was

playing for a lot um. The Colts ended up losing that game, a tight game, and they went from having the second overall to the first overall pick, and they got Andrew luck instead of RG three. Now Andrew looks retired early, but I would argue that the tenure of his time with the Annapolis Colts was very successful and they got a franchise quarterback. So I mean, do you think they cared about losing that game when they were sitting number one picking and they signed Andrew Luke through

the deal after that April draft? I don't think no. And then you can if you if you end up at four or if you stay at six. With where the Rams draft pick is, I think it's twenty nine. It's it's I mean the playoffs. The first playoff team is twenty one, so they're out of the playoffs. So it's somewhere in there. So somewhere in that range. So if they lose this week, that could improve. Yes, the Jaguars loose, So now you're looking at you will have

you have? If both teams lose, you have what would it would take to move up to get where you want to get to maybe get a guy who's a franchise type quarterback. You think you think you'd have enough. Let's say you're five and the U and the Rams are at seventeen. You think the five and seventeen or one. No no, no, no, no, not not first overall. Yeah, but I think that's I mean, how many we haven't done the work yet, and we'll do We'll move it'll give you the ability to move up somewhere in the top.

But this is a weak quarterback last three. Yeah, this is a weak quarterback class. If Joe Burrows and then everyone else and this this Jacks team needs a lot more than just a quarterback right now, We've we've talked about that already. So the more picks you have, the more big bodies you can get, the more big bodies you can get. And then also maybe trade if there's not a quarterback that you like, then maybe you trade out for future picks, so then you can get where

you want to get, you know. So, I mean there's a The bottom line is there's a lot of work in this offseason to do. I mean, because you look at obviously at the draft and you have to go through all the process there. You have free agency, but the biggest issue you have to deal with immediately is you have the cap and you have cap issues that you have to uh deal with, and there are starters in this team that you're gonna have to let go.

And so not only do you have the holes that you currently that we've discussed later ones that are glaring, but there's gonna be some that are gonna be vacated because the cap. Because of the cap is my point, and so you there's a lot of places you gotta feel.

So there's a lot of work to be done. You have the draft, you have free agency, and reality, some of them may not be vacated because of the cap, but strictly because the performance doesn't equal to pay, you know what I mean, So maybe some guys you end up releasing because of that. You could you could afford them under the cap, but you don't want to pay them because their performance isn't commensurate with what they're what

their level of plays at. So like it would be interesting to do if you have the twenty two starters, take away the teams, the kickers will be back. But if you take away that you just looked at the twenty two starters, they're on this they're gonna start Sunday. How many of them will be back next year? That's a great question. M that's a great question. I mean, have you have to go there and sit there and try to add him up. But I mean you can

depends on who's making the decision too. We can go back to I mean, look, look, I think some of the glaring ones, I mean the question marks whether they're going to be back yet or not. I think a boy he's got a pretty significant cap number at the level of no, he hasn't played where you're paying a match, so I think, you know, he's a guy that you would look at. I think Clay's Campbell is a guy

that you would look at. He's a marvelous guy. He hasn't had the year that he had the last two years, and so do you can you justify paying fifteen million dollars a year? Probably not. Marcel Darius is a guy that you can't. You're not gonna pay him, you know, ten eleven, twelve million dollars or whatever you know is looking at that situation. So I mean, those are those are three guys just from a pay stand point that I think you have some holes on defense that you'd

like to get better guys for. I mean, you'd like to maybe find a Mike Backer and maybe end up moving Miles Jack to the week side. You like to find a three technique Taven Brian has not shown that he you would have a lot of confidence in him fulfilling that role going forward. You'd like to find a one to get better at stopping the run. I think Abrie's play at times has been up and down. I mean, so,

I mean there's some holes on defense. I mean, some of it is due to pay and some of it's just flat up performance and unrelated to pay that you're gonna have to address in the off season. And that's just the defensive side of the ball. That's a lot. That's a lot to deal with. Am I wrong? No? I mean I will do that all in one year. Well, you know, here's here's the one thing I will say, though, is that there's not a team in the NFL that

goes into a season. So saying everything, I've got everything fixed, there's no holes worth good. Everybody's got something that they're going. Man, I wish we could have gotten better there. You know. That's that's that's okay. But you'd like to address as many as you can, or to patch as many as you can to make yourself feel better and to make

your team better. Well, and I think just right, I mean you're never You're never satisfied, and if you are satisfied, you're in the wrong business because you always are trying to get better. But the concerning thing is is you can look at every level of the defense and say that there are there are holes and significant questions that you have to address. And at the defensive line, it's

probably a couple of positions. Linebacker you have it as you have a cornery of issue, and I think there's questions that's safety place I wouldn't disagree with there, you'd like like to maybe get an upgrade. That's probably one of those positions that you go, yeah, we can probably make do for a year, um, but if you can find a way to improve it, you'd feel better about it. And then and then you we haven't even talked about

the offense yet, and I think there's a similar situation offensively. Well, we can discuss that when we come back. Also, when we come back, Jimmy lock head equipment manager, will join us, will unveil the uniforms for the Sunday the Jaguars wear. Did Jimmy bring me a pair of shoes today? Well, you can ask him in about three minutes from right now. Prior to each game, entertained guests and air conditioning sweets.

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what's up coming in the show. Yesterday? If you just commended, just unveiled the jersey's no, we we took we should have, right man, that's I mean no commitment. We did hang out yesterday, so I don't remember seeing you here either. Yesterday. I was busy, they were busy. It's a total commitment, right. Um. The holiday kind of chick. We'll hear from coach Dugmaron about how the schedule and stuff changes, but um, it kind of mixes up to practice schedule a little bit

and that everybody the day off. Yeah, it was nice. That's uh. Doug's done a real good job with getting h Thanksgiving, Christmas off, working the schedule around. Some coaches don't do that, but it's been He's been real good about that. Is it tough this time of year. Do guys trying to come in and get Christmas presents for their families and stuff from you, like shirts and hats and like our analysts over here trying to do Does that happen occasionally? But it's not too bad. Everybody's pretty

good though. Jimmy, he's a tough get you know. I mean a lot of equipment guys like here you go, you go, here you go. And Jimmy tight Man, Jimmy tight I'm just kidding, he's good equipment guy. You gotta be a little bit tight. Yeah. People take advantage. You do, get asked a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's for sure, all right. I knowe some equipment guys. Now that I'm in the past, uh, remain side business nameless like a store in the world before we get into any more trouble.

That's um. What are the We always unveil the uniforms here. So this is the final time and it's obviously the final home game with the scene. So what will the Jaguars wear because we're going at home? Got the black jerseys? Okay, the mayor there, Clays Campbell very nice, and then we get we'll go with the Theeal pant. Oh yeah, I like that Black over Teal. We were Teal last week. We weren't deal last week down Black. It's a great record in the Teal pants, but I think they look good.

There's way more important, Jimmy, I'm glad we cleared that up. A great record. Two on the with the Teal pants, right, three this year and one this year, only one time last week until last week was the first time. Alright, we're do for a victory, Black over Teal. Very nice, Jimmy, thank you very much. And getting killed over here, mum, Jimmy, thank you. We'll talk to you soon. Alright, gotta here,

we'll continue with our conversation. As we promised going into the break offense, we could play like we did on the defensive side a moment ago on the offensive side. How many players could be back on this team next year? And how many holes do you have to fill in a year's time, Because you've already figured out you can't fill all the defensive holes in a year's time. It means the number one hole that you need to address period overall, in the entire team as a quarterback hole.

And until you know that you have a franchise guy. The search should continue and you keep swinging and try to find that guy. I don't think i've seen anything out of Minshew or Nick Foles that says we're okay at the quarterback position. The quarterback you need another wide receiver. On d D I think has had an off year and maybe related, but the reality is that you didn't get the production that you wanted. DJ Tark Chark took a tremendous step up. I don't think you have a

tight end right now. You're playing with a bunch of guys that really had no role of being an expected starter this year. I think offensive line, you'd like to have two new guys where you'd like to have a left tackle that that you feel really good about. Cam Robinson has been a little off this year. Is that the first year back from the knee. Uh. I thought he made some steps, but Tony is probably a little bit harder on him than I am. Um. I think he can get better, but is he gonna be enough?

Because Logs always throws it back on me when it comes to the offensive line, Well, I mean that's your that's your stuff, man, that's your that's your's. I love Cam But the reason I don't know if it's about the knee is because I see some of the same technique deficiencies that we've seen since he's gotten here, and the fact that that hasn't kind of a whole lot better, it worries you. Um, it's Cam talented, Yes, is he big, got a good big strong guy, good athletes. Sure. Absolutely.

I'm not saying you can't do it. But at the end of the day, it's you're based on your You have to look at the production and to look at the tape and and what you're getting there. And I think it's something when you're five and ten and you have to evaluate everything, and when you are aging over the last seven games, three points for a game in the first half, I mean it's not good enough for some point won something a game in the first half. And so it's just it's something that to valuate. There's

not enough playmakers in this offense. Um offensive line needs to be better. You need to be able to run the ball consistency, consistently, and I think you I don't think there's a position I would not look at on the offense. We look at that stet last seven games twenty two points in the first half of those games. Total average in thirteen yards in the first half, five first downs in the first half, third down conversion is not very good. And that's kind of been a season

long type of deal there. I mean, those are not good numbers for for for an offense in the first half, and the points are the most clarion one that's there. And uh, you know, and with with running back, I mean, I I don't think that Leonard four Nett is the total solution at running back in the future. I think you've got to find a guy. You have to find a make a miss guy. You have to find a guy you can throw ins you miss. I mean, does does Leonard four Nett? And I always kind of use

this analogy. How many running backs do you have on the roster when they get the ball in an open space? Makes you hold your breath? Does for net make you do that? JP? No? I mean no, and uh And I'm not saying that there's a lot of backs that do that, But if you can get one of those backs. And Leonard he's had he's had a great year compared to where he was at last year, incredibly consistent. You know, the seventh in the league and rushing, and he hasn't.

He's been able to do that without a lot of attempts. Recently, he's got a tremendous amount of catches on the year, seventy six, which is fourth among running backs in the league. It's a Jaguars record that's pretty incredible. Fourth in yards per scrimmage. He's been available every game, which is a big step up for him. But boy, at what happened to the offense if you lost him? Is Raquel arm instead that guy a guy that can make it. We

haven't seen enough of him. I haven't seen enough of him, but I can tell you this, if it if it ain't him there hand, there's nobody the the bar, and I don't think there's a lot of hay in the barn, you know So, I mean that's a position I think you all you always have to have the injury. I mean, it's as simple as just looking at the numbers. The numbers at this point of the year, you are what

your numbers say you are. And this is a team that does not score points, does not move the ball, is not explosive, and so as you look at it, is that coaching, is that play calling sure they get to evaluate that as well, but this is a team that needs more playmakers. How many guys on the offensive side of the ball. If you were game planning Jeff as a defensive coordinator, would you say, oh my, this guy scares me. Um there, I think think this one.

You would probably game plan of defense to where you would put extra guys in the box for two reasons. One, that's the style that they want to run, not because they're so good at it, because it's Leonard four Nette. And then you also have a quarterback that can't carry the weight of the game on his shoulder, so you would wait the box to try to counteract the running game in Leonard four Nette. And then at a critical

situation you might lean a safety towards DJHR. Fair enough, Yeah, But at my point is there's nobody that you're not You're not waking up in the middle of the night and having nightmares of X player BTU. There's no, there's no I mean, look at some of the weapons that are on some of the top teams in the league Kent City. But that's the amazing thing about them. They have so many that makes a defensive coordinator worry. But you don't have one of those guys. Kelsey, you're a

Tyreek Hill. I mean I would put those two and that's probably about it. I mean those two guys are the ones that change defensive coordinators plans that are on that offensive team. UM in San Francisco, Kittle in San Francis with the quarterback Lamar Jackson, and he makes you change the game plan. Yes, And you don't have a guy on offense that makes you change a defensive coordinator's approach or his game Polo Atlanta, you don't have one. Don't grow on trees. Teams have an offensive player that

you could. I mean, go go through the top. Just go through the playoff teams real quick. Kansas City we already talked about. Um. If you look at the Houston Texans, I mean they have Hopkins, will Fuller scares the you know, you know what out of here when he's healthy, and Shawn Watson. If you look at the Patriots, Patriots don't really have a guy terback Tom Brady and Edelman. They've got two guys. Um. If you look at the Buffalo Bills,

the Bills are a team that's built defensively. Probably not a guy who stands out that scares you if you look at um. I'm trying to think who Tennessee would be one of them right now, Tennessee j Brown. You know, you got a couple of guys there that you know, big offensive line. You're the Saints of Michael Thomas, Camara, Drew Brees, Packers, Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams. I mean, I mean, just go through the Cowboys. I mean they all not

everyone doesn't have a bunch. I'm not saying you have to have a bunch of we have to have that guy. You have to have that guy that changes how a defense has to play you, that can beat you even if you do it right. It's like last week, Julio Jones, Todd wash double Julio Jones. He's good enough to beat you. And so there's certain guys in this league and you want to have one or two of them, preferably one

and a quarterback would be great. Well most of the time, if you don't have a quarterback, then you don't have a franchise. Got another position for them. I mean it's like I'm talking about receiver position type. For the most part, that's not always the case, but this is a you know. I'll use the example of Lamar Jackson. Now he's a different dude, now, totally different. The league has never seen

anybody like him. But I remember doing the game when the Jets play the Ravens and game plan, getting ready to watching tape, and you'd watch and defenses would do it perfect, and he would still make the free guy miss. And you see it all the time. You see in Carolina Christian McCaffrey. You do everything right, but he beats the guy one on one. You have to have those guys who can win the one on one matchups. They can just beat the guy even when everything else is

done right by the defense. But they're that good. And that I mean and it's no different than an offense. I'll take it to the offensive line. You want guys who can whip the guy across from them. But you don't have to scheme. It don't have to be double, doesn't be perfect. But there's just guys that can win because it allows you to do so much. No different

than defense. When you have that guy on defense and as an offensive lineman, let's say it's a pass rusher and you have to game plan for them, that changes everything else you do and it opens up so much for you and things that you can get done. And so I think that's as I look at this offense, and there's some good solid players in this offense, but I don't know if there's difference makers on the offense, and I think that's one of the things you gotta find.

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We've talked about an accomplishment that has been for him that he has not been on since the last week of the season. Another accomplishment is getting DJ charts to one thousand receiving yards. He says he doesn't want to do it for him, he wants to do it for his family. At first, you know, we'll leave. Bnasa's podcast is really from my family to se Apple out car last year and actually I never had a thousand yards. Um, it's about the Black corpor I never been in a

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at the same time. Those are all things that can happen. So if those are and then it becomes the tiebreaker. But the Colts playing to the tiebreak there whether they're seven or nine or eight, which is strength of schedule matters for those teams. So um, the Raiders need the Colts to win, the Steelers to lose, and the Titans to lose and for them and they're in m and they had to have like four things last week happened to get to this week, and they had them all

happened last week. How about what I was talking about this someone earlier. They gotta be kicking themselves that they lost the game to the Jaguars because they had that game under control. They'd be in control their own destiny right now. Really, just good game management, they probably win and they'd be in the driver's seat. If it's truly destiny, clock management, do you even control it? If it's destiny, it's destiny. Right, that's a little thing about that's pretty deep.

J J. Let's move on, my brains are you have to go hang out with Joe and think about that? Right?

We just started from Ashland there and the injury report, Leonard for Nette appearing on it for the first time, that story exactly what the deal is that that just came out just popped out the injury report officially Leonard for Nett is on it with a neck issue limited Wednesday, did not practice Thursday, what would have been Wednesday, which was actually Tuesday, was limited, did not practice officially today, spoke of the media today. Um, so that that's not

a good look. No, I mean, I would think Leonard, you know, would want to try to find the way to if he can to play all sixteen games, continue to get more rushing yards into build on his best year as of pro So we'll just have to stand back and watch to see, you know, how serious and neck injury it is and if it will stop him from playing of the year. You guys, recall that any point in game last week where he came out I do not. I don't. I don't either. Interesting how it

pops up. But we'll remember follow that slept on like slept on wrong. Maybe bad pillow maybe, so maybe these one of those those travel y Yeah, I wake up sometimes I have a crick in my neck and it's called the old age. So that's the story to follow. Moving ahead here defensively, and last time these two teams played, they the Colts ran all over the Jaguars and it was multiple guys doing it, a couple of guys and the fourth worst rushing day against the Jaguars in franchise history,

in fact, sixty four on the ground. And if I'm not mistaken, that was the game. The Jaguars only ran the ball eight times. Yes, they had twenty nine yards rushing in the game. The Jags did eight or nine times they ran the ball. Can't remember exactly what it was, but yeah, they got dominated up front. Um, Marlo mac got hurt that game, missed a couple and he's back has over a thousand yards rushing just over but only missing two games. He has over a thousand yards, so

he's a good back. I really like him. Um, He's not much of a receiver out of the back. They and and I think the reason is is justified because the few balls that I've seen thrown his way on film and in live action, he doesn't exactly have great hands. He would have the nickname probably from Roberto Duran Hands of stone, so not so good. That's why uh naim Heims catches a ton of balls for them. Returns punts very well, as a matter of fact, only two for touchdowns.

Last week, He's uh one of the all time great punt return yardage games in NFL history. Last week against the Carolina Panthers, he had three punt returns. This is the running back now, heem hims Now. He had three returns for a total of a hundred ninety five yards. One of them I think was seventy one yards, the other one was like eighty four I think somewhere in

that range. What a tremendous day by him. And the crazy part is what the hell took the coaches so long to find a way to get him back there. He's only got seven returns on the year. The only reason he's back there, Jeff, because Chester Rogers got hurt is on that's my point, what are you doing? Coaches? Come on, he tried. They tried to get him back there. Last year's rookie, he struggled catching punts and that's I think that. I don't think that the confidence that he

was gonna feel it, so he was the backup. But you read all the reports of Indianapolis. He's worked tirelessly, uh since last year, in this offseason even the season to work on secure in the ball and catching it. And when he does, he's a dynamic player. I mean, they got three, They have a good backfield, and they

have a good offensive line. Um. Obviously Hines we're talking about right now is part returners outstanding, but you look at Marlon Mack behind that big offensive line, they are very successful and they need to be because Jacoby Brisset's not playing very good. Hines as a receiver out of the backfield and he obviously is a kind of that smaller third down type of back. In two years, he's

a second year player. Hundred and four receptions. That's pretty impressive now for a second year back to have those type of numbers, so pretty pretty good. And Jacobo proct you're right, he's not been playing very well. At all ever since the ear at the knee in Pittsburgh. He was playing great up until then, and then since then the numbers of uh plummeted. I know you like to think he's a franchise guy. I might be rethinking a well, they think I thought no, no, no. I thought he

had a chance to be a franchise guy. They did too. Did you read Jim Merseys commentary? Did you read it? Because he was asked, he was actually asked about the possibility of Andrew Luck coming back, and he said that we have to plan to move forward at that issue with Jacoby Brissett and the draft. He I mean, when you start saying Jacoby and the draft, okay, then they understand that Jacoby precept may not be the guy. And just like in the Jaguars situation, if you think you

have a guy, then you're making a mistake. If you act like you know you have a guy, you always insinuate that we don't have a guy until it is a done deal. Lock Stone Cold, we got a guy, if you had to pick. The bigger issue of the Jaguars run defense this year is the lack of Marcel Darius for the better part of the year, or the lack of Miles Jack when he was out or not playing well during the five guns stretch Jack was or his let's let me rephrase then not play in that

time frame. Well, I don't think they've been getting the front seven anywhere, especially on the interior. I think they really struggled on the interior part of the defensive line. I don't think the linebacker has been very play very good with uh Simon based football. Their eyes aren't very good. They get out of position a lot. And the combination of those two is they've been getting gash between the tack.

You add that and then you have not stellar play by the one, which is Avery, and then you have some poor play by Tavin Bryan. I mean literally at

times it's been poor, like out of your gap. Uh. You know, you put that together and it's and it's not good and uh and I know I think at the beginning of the year, a lot of people wanted to to beat up Tavin Brian, and I kept telling everybody kind of wait a minute, let's let the young guy develop a little bit, and this is your two and we have not seen a step forward out of his level of play. In my opinion, and I think

at times he has a total liability in the run game. So, Jeff, I mean, is there anything area where you would be comfortable going into next year with him as your starting three technique? Is there as you look at this defensive line as it sits right now? Um, Josh Allen's the starter. Oh and he's just study. I think he needs to be playing more around but he is. He's a starter caliber yes, yes, yes, Um David Bryant said, no, not

a starting caliber technique, Avery Jones starting caliber one technique. No. Uh, I don't see any scenario where Clays is back under the current deal. You know, I don't think you can afford it. But here, but here's here's what we would like to see if he wants to play, because he's starting to get at that point in his career where take a pay cut. Clays might just say, you know what I'm done. I mean, the reality is he's made

a hundred million dollars in his career. So I mean, when you get to that point, you know you can see you you know, I've enjoyed it, It's been fun. I want to win. I want to play with a contender maybe or maybe to look how I'm done, and I'm gonna walk away. But and he might want to go play with the the continer. Say I want to play twenty five snaps the game and that's it. Yeah, or in a perfect world, love to have him back at at half the number and half the amount of snaps snaps,

I mean twenty snaps a game. Sub rusher, I would love him. So let's they came off. So let's Tay came off another starter. So now your other defensive end is right now in Gockway comfortable in ways. No, I want to have I want to have Yon Niche as my starting sam on first By the way, I agree with you. I think I think y're on perfect position for him, which I think he'll excel at. Is an outside linebacker on first and second down in base personnel.

And as soon as they go to sub put him as a hand down on the ground, hand in the ground, because he's a fabious bass rusher, he's athletics, I'll get out. So we would have to put it right now. Smoot as a strong Smoot a starting caliber defensive end. I think you could get by with him. So he's one of those guys we put in that category of you like to improve and get better at. But right now you thought he's had a pretty good year this year.

You have one and a half starters. If you give a half to smooth and you have do you have to obviously just say too. But that's where you're And then if you do the same thing as a linebacker, you need you feel good at. I don't think if a mic linebacker on the roster and so now you're looking at your center of your defense. This is why you struggle to stop to run. That's where you need. You need help. I mean, you gotta you gotta dress that. That's hard to do. I mean it's hard to do

in one year. I mean specially when you're up against the cap. But also you look at are you comfortable with you comforta with Baby Jones being your rotational guy coming off the bench. I'd be happy with that, absolutely, Okay, with Tavin Bryant coming in and playing fifty snaps and your rotational three. No, you're not. So you don't think you don't think there's a place on this team for Tavin. But no, I'm not saying that. But a couple of years left this contract here, I have a place for

him on this roster. But he's got to get better. That's fair. I mean, so you're talking about it. They're going into his third year. So I'm not saying that he can't get better because there's times that he has plays. Yeah, I agree with you that he just keeps the crap out of people, you know, and unfortunately, most times when he kicks the pooh out of somebody already said, he doesn't he doesn't come off and make the play, you know. So can we take that next step with him? You know?

I I don't know. But here here's the reality. He's got to get better. He's got to get better to be because right now, and this is I think this is the truth, Kim Spence, who you got off of the street, is playing at a higher level than Tavin Brown. He's not saying that equal if it's better, not, I mean I wouldn't. It would be tough to Okay, but he's not big. I mean, he's not big enough body any bigger people. Let's come back, we'll talk about some

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a close here in just a few minutes. The Dug Marone Show comes up at the top of the hour that coach Jag Maroon will join us in studio. That'll go out of with the Jaguars Radio network. So, yes, are we talking to other? I wasn asked Jeff one more questions? We want to go over? We can do whatever you'd like, Tony, Please go for it, Jeff, let's say let's say the draft position doesn't change, all right, you're six and nineteen. You're at six. That's six. That's

my fault. Joe is in my ear. I'm sorry I missed something here at six. I'm with you from the sense of I believe you have to draft a quarterback almost every year, if not every year, until you have the guy, until you have Somebody else said that a few years ago, and and somebody kind of laughed at me. No, I never laughed at you, I agree. Did you laugh at me? I honestly don't remember, But anyways, I agree with you now if you have and even if you have the guy in the back half, I still think

you needed uh six seventh round, always be looking. But when you don't have a guy, you have to almost every year draft a guy at the sixth overall pick.

Would you draft a quarterback With all the other holes that we've talked about during this first hour of the show, and the need for big people, the need for interior defensive linement, a middle linebacker, possibly an offensive linement, I think you need two tight ends on this roster, at least one blocking, especially the way that uh, assuming the reports that your Doug is coming back the way I know he likes to play football. You need at least at one tight end. If not to would you draft

a quarterback at six, No question. You you can talk about all the holes you want, but I mean, look, the Indianapolis Colts were able to cover up so many different holes because they had a quarterback, and a quarterback fills more holes than just a quarterback position. If you get one. And where was Deshaun Watson in ten or

nine or ten? Right? Seven and eight? And then like ten they were like they were all like I think they were both they went like top five between seven and eleven, because I want to say Trabsky was it like was twelve? I mean lucky if you could take one, get one of those types. And then Lamar Jackson obviously was he was late whatever it was the second last pick in the first round. Thought So yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any there's no hesitation on my part.

But at six, you have to know, you have to have really you have to you have to have a strong feeling this is the guy, like he's he's a future franchise quarterback. Do you ever really know? You never know, but you know, you know what I'm saying, like strong conviction, this is the guy that can we can play football with for the next ten years. Yes, take him. Yeah, I would agree with you. By the way, we talked about this Monday night and I said the same thing.

If that guy is there, and I haven't done any work on these guys outside of Joe Burrow watching him play. We said to Uh, I probably wouldn't take to it because of the injury history. And I'm with you same thing. You know how much I watched but two of the guy to me injuries. I mean, you have the Herbert guy out in Oregon that people have questions about big arms. He declared today to think about from Washington. There, guy that's a big arm. Think about when we're talking earlier

about uh Andrew Luck. Okay, when Ryan Grigson drafted him first of all, he did, but that was a no brainer. No, I means no brainer, right. But my point of that is is that did Ryan Grigson have any good drafts after that? T Y Hilton was a great pick um, uh, very good. He missed on a bunch, he missed a lot,

and he neglected the offensive line a bit. Yes, But my point is he missed on a lot, which which left a lot of holes with the Cults, which became very apparent when Andrew Luck wasn't playing for the Colts anymore. So it just goes to show how many holes at a quarterback, a good franchise quarterback, he he covers a lot of sins. Let's go through the playoff picture in the a f C. First, the Baltimore Ravens thirteen and two.

They've pretty much clinched it all off field advantage. I mean, I arresting everyone there might pick to go the whole way to win it all the way they're playing football right now, I don't see anybody stopping them. Patriots are right there though familiar territory for them. They're twelve and three. Here's the thing I'm with, Jeff. I think the Ravens the best team. I've said that for a number of weeks now. The way they play, they're a good defense,

They're playing good football all the way around. I would still sit here today and tell you I'm picking the new as long as the Patriots when this week and they get the number two seed, which is not a guarantee because if they lose in the Chiefs Water they have the Dolphins. I believe Dolphins are Jets. One of the two Dolphins Dolphins, So I think I don't think it's an issue. It's in New England. I don't see Dolphins going up New England win that game. The Patriots,

we'll have to go into Baltimore. But the one thing I guarantee you, Bill Belichick will have a plan for Lamar Jackson seeing him once already, and if you go back to that game in the second and a half, they changed made some adjustments and slowed down Lamar Jackson. That's the team. I'm telling you what Brady and Belichick playoff football mean. No one gave him a chance to go into Kansas City last year. Meet Patrick Mahomes and I did that game and I was right there with

the bandwagon. It's Mahomes, it's Kansas City. There's no way that the Patriots can keep up. And my goodness, you know what they did. They beat them. I mean they are And so that's the one and those three teams though there, they're gonna be a lot of fun to watch. The Ravens Patriots Chiefs. Uh that that's gonna be some really good football. Watch out for the even the Texans with the play of their quarterback. That's what makes them so special. If I saw them on Saturday, they're not

that without will Fuller, they are. I mean, they're not explosive. I know, I know. But when when DeShawn Watson is playing like he did against the Jaguars where in London he was dominant, I'll tell you the team dominant makes the noise in the playoffs. It might shock a couple of people. As the Buffalo Bills, you have their quarterback is crappy. Yeah, I disagree with CP. Yeah it's just strong. But it's a strong word. But he's the Weekend put

it this way. The weakest quarterback in the a f C in the playoffs strong well, weaker than Tanny if he gets in. Yeah, Danniehill is getting good maner than Derek carr I tell right now, I take him over Derek carr Um as a passer you don't like, you would take him over. I would take them over Duck Hodges. If the Steelers get into Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's

pretty pretty simple on that one. In the NFC and the Niners, the Packers are in, the Saints are all twelve and three they're in that order right now, seating currently Eagles at eight and seven. The wild Cards, the Seahawks and the Vikings. That's not that's not. The Seahawks play the uh. The Seahawks play the forty Niners this week. If the Seahawks beat the forty Niners, they go to

the number two or three seed whatever. However, the rest shorts out in the forty Niners will go from the two seed all the way to the five seeds quick a big turn. And when we have to have the Cowboys and the Eagles, the Eagles control that. Eagles have to go to New York. Daniel Jones lit up the Redskins huts downs. They almost beat the Eagles. They almost beat the Eagles with Eli Manning in Philly. They got to go to New York. I think I don't think that's an easy game, by the way, and then you

have you have the Cowboys going to Washington. It's it's gonna be a fun weekend. Week seventeen in the NFL, the Jaguars get the Indianapolis Colts here at t i A. Bank Field. We're back in a moment. The Jaguars radio network coverage of the Doug Morone Show after this Thanks for listening and watching Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.