Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 28

and the Jack's social channels Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Jaguars analyst Jeff Blagman is always with us. NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks is on site with us throughout the draft. We stole him away. He's here. We're gonna pick his brain all weekend long with this half preview, and we will hear from general manager Trent Bulky. We had a draft day conversation in the Jaguars draft room at the Bank a little bit earlier. Gentlemen, welcome in an happy

Draft day live. Yeah, thank you, and it's great to have Buckey alongside. We're gonna have a little bit of conversation there about some draft picks. We're gonna get some answers out of you guys, were about answers. We've been picking Buckey Sprain for weeks on the Huddle Up podcast, and now it comes down to the night. Now. I'm really excited, man, It's really exciting. Time you have the number one overall pick. You have a chance to kind of change the forces of the franchise if you get

the pick right. It's a lot of fresh did you you guys remember a draft like this where you're just you're going in and there's really not really a known entity that's gonna be the first overall draft pick. I mean, I say, going back to what the Baker Mayfield draft, that's that's the last time you can think about that where everyone was guessing on who was going to be the number one, but no one real, no one really knows. Normally by this time of the day, you gotta have

a sense it's kind of leaked out on Twitter. Who's gonna be the guy. We haven't heard that yet, No leaking. Yeah, I mean we're we'll hear from Balky coming up. I think with you a little bit. No, No, he said they were down to one, so they got that. That's good. You didn't say which one. He wrote it down on a piece of paper and gave it to JP later. I don't even want to know. I'll be quite honest with you. But let's hear from General Manager Trim Balky.

We caught up a little earlier today in the Jaguars draft room here at t I A. Bank Field, his second draft with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're ready to make a picko. NFL Draft is here. J P. Shadrick with General Manager Trent Balky in the draft room at t I A A bank Field. Are you excited? What's the GM feel on draft day? Hopefully relief? You know, we're excited.

Obviously a lot of works gone into this. Scouting staff, personnel staff, put in a lot of time and here we are, you know, on the eve of the pick, and uh, I think we're I know we're prepared for it. Take us through your checklist on draft day? What all do you do? What's your routine? You've done this a number of times obviously in San Francisco and now your second time here. What's your checklist? Well, we had our final meeting yesterday, you know, with ownership, and that went

extremely well. You know, now it's just waiting for the eight o'clock to come here. You know usually what I do now is I'll get away from it. I'll take my run. I'm gonna go on a nice long run here, get get my mind right, and then come back. Try to be in the building around five o'clock and get ready for eight o'clock. Tell us what you can about that final meeting with ownership, shot con in, Doug Peterson, yourself, what happens and how do you guys narrow it down?

You said you were down to four last week. How do you get the number one? Well, we've been working that way for for a while now. And you know, when Shod got this all together, you talked about a couple of things, but you know, a collaborative effort and transparency, and yesterday's meeting was just to make sure that that was exactly what was taking place. And uh, this has

been a very collaborative effort. There's been a lot of people involved, from the personnel side, from the coaching side, and even ownership, and that's the way it should be. And we're just looking forward to the draft and making the picks. How does this number one top of a draft compared to some others in the past. To you, it feels like, I don't know if you read mocks or not. There's a lot of mocks out there, have different names everywhere. It seemed a little abnormal. Usually there's

a slam dunk guy at number one. How different is this year? I don't like to compare drafts. You live in the moment and the moment we're in now. This is this is the draft. These are the available players, and you do everything you can to find the right players for this organization, for your own organization, and then you go to work and and and you make them right. At what point do you make final calls to prospects, wellness checks? Do you do anything like that on draft day?

Is that all done? Have you put a bow in this thing? Yeah? The draft, the skelet sets. What they've been working on the early part of this week is calling all the agents, calling all the prospects on the board, making sure we verified their phone numbers and and that they're healthy and ready to go. Finally, um, you know, twelve picks over three days. I don't know if a GM likes that or not. That's a lot to handle

over the next three days. But what is a successful day for the Jaguars today at the end of the day and a successful weekend meet, Well, I think you just go into it. You never know what's gonna happen. Obviously we know what's gonna happen at one, and then from that point on you really don't know what's gonna happen.

So you follow the board, You trust the board. You put yourself in a position to move up if you feel you need to move up, and you put yourself in a position when it when the board dictates to move back if you can. But you always have to be ready, ready and willing to make the pick because you don't know if you can move up, and you don't know if you can move back, so you're you

just you always have to be prepared. That's trimp Lucky Jaguars general manager a little bit earlier today, we think looks. I think the comment that he made there at the very end is very tellent that you move back if you can, and I think that they would love to move back from number one. But the problem is that

there's no clear cut number one. If there was then this team will be in a perfect position to maybe trade that pick if there was a quarterback sitting there, and then get a hall of picks in the future and now and then maybe get one of those top

four guys that you like. Yeah, it's all about the quarterback. Normally, when you're moving up at someone that is a transcendent talent, someone that multiple teams would love to get, and right now you just don't have that interest because the quarterbacks aren't what they've been in previous classes. So even though Trends is like to talk about previous classes, is one of the reasons why they hadn't been a lot of trade interests. I think it was also interesting that he

talked about it. You you were talking about talking to the prospects and etcetera. I remember when I was a draft eligible player, Man, I the phone didn't stop ringing the day before the draft and the day of the draft. Do you happen to know why j P just to make sure you're not in trouble, to make sure you

didn't get hit by a mack truck. Seriously, to make sure you were still alive and healthy and you know, ready to go, because seriously, they would call you up and say, hey, how you doing, how you feeling everything okay? And it was you were sitting there just you know, thinking yourself out loud, going in there, just trying to

find out that I'm breathing. That's that's really it. As a scout, your job, My job leading up to the draft is to make sure I call everybody on the list, make sure I get multiple numbers, their primary number, backup number, see if they're healthier, stuff, because you want to make sure when the pick goes in, you want to be able to talk to him before you officially submit to pick. About the thought of the meeting last night, Jaguar's owner Shot con came in. I wanted to, as Trent Balky said,

see that collaborative and open effort together. And they've apparently come down to one player they're gonna pick. Yeah, because once the player is picked, he's a Jaguar and everybody in the building has to support him and make sure that he has given everything that he needs to be successful. From a coaching standpoint, that's put him in the rights position.

Make sure the scheme is conducive to his talents. From a personnel standpoint, he once we own whoever we decided to pick, we got to make sure that everything that comes out of the building is positive about this pick. In the process. I think that this is is just uh kind of a sign because you know, there's been collaborative meetings with ownership all along through this process. You know, I think Sean Conn has spent more time in the building this year than he has in recent years from

from what I understand. And so, look, the reality is this final meeting. If if Shan Khan goes, hey, look we're drafting player X. Guess which player they're drafting. They're drafting player X. I mean he's the owner. He's the one that can has the ultimate decision. We'll say that's really never been his style though he kind of lets

the football people do football things. He can have obviously has input when he wants to have input, but he's never really been that, you know, we're picking this guy, come hell or high water. No, I know, I don't think he ever has. But I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, when you have next year name, you know, job description, it says, oh that gives you that. I guess, so do you need another title? No? Just

owner is good enough. Yeah, Yeah, it's Jaguars Happy x L A. M. And Jaguars dot Com, JP Shaddick, Jeff Loghum, and Bucky Brooks ahead of the NFL Draft. There is mother football business going on today with the Jaguars. By the way, Josh Allen received the fifth year option today. The deadline was made second, So that's another year for

a former first round pick. And you know, it goes to the what the organization has talked about you and they haven't done a lot the last ten fifteen years, is get your draft picks, keep them in the building as long as you can, and then resigned them. The resigning parts still to come for Allen, but the fifth year option is big to kind of set the tone

I think on defense. It means from an internal standpoint that they feel good enough about what he's put on the first three years to say, Okay, we definitely want to keep this marriage going into the fifth year and possibly be beyond. We have seen in previous years sometimes people are unable to get that fifth year option. So that bowls well for Josh Allen getting a large term extension.

It also bowls well from the Jaguar standpoint that they drafted a player at the top of the board who has played up to the standard expectation that comes along with being the first round pick. But the one the one thing I will say with Josh from from a negative stand point is that he has not been available at times. That's right, Okay, So I think that kind of maybe impacted the lateness of this decision because from a talent standpoint, Josh Allen being you know, have that

fifth year picked up, that's a no brainer. But you would like to see the consistency and production a little bit more with Josh, and I think that that will come. There's also been reports that Cam Robinson has agreed to an extension three year deal fifty four million dollars. That's the report, no official word from the team yet hasn't signed the deal, but when he does, there you go,

does that change anything tonight for you? Well? I think this is an interesting conversation here because Bucky, this not only involves is the contract right for Cam Robinson? Okay, you're happy with that number, but then it also kind

of ventures over to draft talk. Okay, now that Cam Robinson has or reportedly has this three year extension, does that prohibit the Jaguars from looking at the top two rated offensive lineman and and I don't know exactly what bucky S thoughts are on this, but I love the guy in North Carolina State, Oh. I absolutely love him. And I love what Douck has said about the number one pick. We gotta get the number one pick right,

No more pick has to start. He has to be a starter with the one thing that we know about Ikey Kuanu Ikey Kant is versatile enough to move inside and play guard. So to me, I think it's a no brain if he's available, if you really want to fortify the offensive line, and if you look at the moves that have been made throughout the off season, it is about making sure that the quarterback has enough help.

Will you help him by being able to bring another big body that really creates a fortress but also allows the Jaguars to run the football? Always takes fresh sure off Trevor larn You know, if you go back a couple of years ago and you redrafted the Quenton Nelson draft, if Quint Nelson were drafted number one overall, would you even think twice about it? Now? Absolutely not? And I'm not saying that quantu is is at that level. But

I think he's that kind of an athlete. He has that kind of power and obviously he's a very intelligent guy. Uh didn't he like accepted to Harvard. He's super super Mark. Ye, he's Asian. He's a guy who explain that to j P. So. So when you so, when you think about what he offers, I think it's a no braining because worst case, you can put him in right techn from my guard. You

can move him around to make sure that it's right. Ultimately, when you think about how Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl, he wanted with the best offensive line in football doing what they do control in the church. I love the way he's He's got a little nasty to him. He's got power, he's got finished and he's a six ft four guy. So if he were to play left tackle, okay,

he would compare to the guy in Houston. If he were to play guard, okay, six four is considered a good size for guard, I mean so, and he would be an immediate starter without question. Wow, how about Evan Neil. He's out of the conversation, but this is I'd love to get Bucky's thoughts. On this. I know you guys have talked about it. From from my standpoint under, he's

got all the measurables. Okay, he's been getting at times, he's been overweight and but uh, anyway, he's on the ground a lot, and I don't think he's a I don't know if he's as much of a good of an athlete as Cam Robinson. And the reason I say that is that, look, how many years did Cam Robinson started at left tackle at University of Alabama? It was multiple years, okay, and Neil was a one year guy. And I'm not trying to I mean, look, would you question Nick Saban and his ability to figure out who

the best left left tackles are. I mean, when he's got a guy who's had to move around a little bit um And I'm not saying that that's the number one indicator, but just when you watch it on film, I don't think he's as athletic at times, but he's got great technique. I think there are two things in

the comparison a Quanto and Neil. The technique. Neil is superior in technique, but in terms of physicality and nastiness, a Quanta plays the game in a way that it changes the way your entire offensive line does because Jeff, we'll talk to when you're in those rooms and you see people hitting and knocking people around, it makes other people want to kind of jump in, and it changes

the tenor of your offense. And so a kwan who comes in and brings that, with the athleticism, with the other stuff that you can potentially be on the inside. And that's not saying that Neil isn't worthy of being in the conversation. But if you have a preference, the NC state key gives you that nastiness that you have to have, particularly in a rugged a f C. If you if you look at the numbers, the measurables, you know,

the combine height, weight, speed, all that kind of stuff. Size, don't forget hand size, I mean for quarterbacks, that's everything right. Neil would be your your your pick, I mean, because he's got that, you know, the height, weight and everything looks perfect. Whereas Iky's a little bit smaller, not quite as heavy. And in today's game, a lot of guys and general managers are caught up about size. We are at the two douval draft party presented by a Baptist South.

It's tonight at six o'clock at Daily's Place. Live drafting houses and on stage appearances by head coach Doug Peterson and selects Jaguars players. More info Jaguars dot Com, slash Official Draft Party. Parking will be a bit tricky tonight. There's an RV show in lot Ja. I think there's an Iceman Hockey game tonight. So if you're coming down here, come on earlier. I will tell people this. Just follow the signs. It's it's very well explained when you're coming

in the car. I was coming in the car, and then there's plenty of signs to indicate where you need to park. Gates open at five o'clock. Up next, more draft talk Defensive prospects at number one. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Absolutely, you could, because if you're investing in Trevor Lawrence, you better invested people

who are gonna keep them up, right. Absolutely, But you know, I think you still got Jawan Taylor there, right, So you just invested in him a couple of years ago as a second rounder who we all thought was going to be a shrounder. So you think to yourself, what's the next move. That's why it feels like pass rusher. But they did go offensive lineman, doesn't that sounds like where we started the whole process, And the whole process started with but which offensive line with Jacksonville take and

then it morphed into the pass rusher. So that's why this year is so exciting for all of us because it may not be the five quarterbacks of last year, but the uncertainty breads the excitement of this year. Charles Davis of NFL Network and CBS Sports in Las Vegas with Brian Sexton and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour from Daily's Place, home of the dou vol Draft party. Coming up six o'clock. The festivities begin, eight o'clock the

draft begins. Will be here all night long. Good to hear from our good friend Charles Davis there talking offensive line. But then that shifts us over. We've already talked about the two big names. Let's shift back over to defense. And can I real quick in a comment in there, because because that Jowan Taylor thing, we talked about Taylor there tackle last time I checked that there's gonna be

some competition. That's right at right tackle walker little as there should be competition, said that, Bucky, it's gonna be a competition, But you know, does the person who come in join that competition. If it's an offensive linement, we should be the goal should be to put the five best offensive linement on the field and figure out the matchups. That's what you go through mini camps and training camp in audit. You start mixing up the combinations because it's

a chemistry thing with the offensive line. But do you wanna tell you the walking a little wouldn't discourage me for taking it off as deafens up the board. Let's move along now to some of the potential options on the defensive side of the football and begin with Aidan Hutchinson out of the University of Michigan fourteen sacks a year ago. Broke his leg early in the season but came back. He was a Heisman runner up last year, the defensive player of the Year in the Big Ten, well,

unanimous All American. The accolades go on and on and on. Bucky, you're all about this guy, and it's not just height and wait, it's everything that goes with him on the field. So at the top of the or Typically what you're looking for is a guy with blue chip talent and a blue color mentality. And when you talk to the people around the program in Michigan, they can't say enough good things about how he goes about his business working.

Talking to his teammate David Dajabo, he said, everything that I learned about playing at a high level came from watching Aidan Hutchinson and being with him. And so when you think about a culture change or someone that's more to set the tone, this is what he does. Outside of being a really good player, the football character is outstanding. And at the top of the board, we're talking about

getting someone that you know exactly what you're getting. There's some certainty with Aidan Hutchinson that I liken that I believe it character, productivity. He's athletic, but he's got arms that are short. That's what he got short like a man. He doesn't have that short arms. The time you watch your play football, he's really good and uh and on top of that, what you talk about about how he has that that that kind of dry and that he teaches teammates. When you watch him on film, he plays

every down. He's not a guy that turns it on when he's a pass rusher. Okay, he's a guy that plays the rundowns just as hard he and then he plays him just as good. He's stout. He can stuff guys in the hole, he can get around guys. Is he a super freak athletic guy like a Miles Garrett. No, okay, he's not that. But the productivity, the measurables, and everything else to me, says number one pick overall. And I think you feel him like heaven't watched him up close

in person at the Big Ten Championship game. I felt his presence like it was very clear and fair. In the big game, he turned it up and nuts, he made plays. And I know people would talk about the Georgia game and they said, well, the first exposure that a lot of people had to him was watching him in the college football playoff and Georgia seeming to be handled it. But if you watched how Georgia played, they

didn't go at him. The ball was out quick. They made sure they took care of him because he was the most impactful player for Michigan. I think this guy's a slam duck. Has a number one pick to me he should be the pit. Hey. By the way, from a scouting standpoint, what's short on the t rex I was like a thirty seven and a half thirty eight in sleeve. Like someone is this guy got those listening on radio? He's demonstrating the same time, fantastic You mentioned Georgia.

They had a fantastic defense and national champions and a name going up a lot of my draft the last month or so, at least since the combine, especially his Trayvon Walker, defensive lineman six, five seventy played the most snaps on the defensive line for Georgia last year. He was moving all around. But Bucky, this guy's moving up boards after the combine. Yeah, there are a lot of people that are fascinating, and it started right at the combine because people had a chance to see him and

watch him go to work. And he's a very impressive athlete, super explosive. You see the movie skills, the change of direction, all of those things. And then when you think about this defensive line, he played the most snaps. He was all over the place. The only thing that bothers me about Walker is is a projection over the production. The other pass rushers that we're talking about. We see guys get the quarterback down, and the one thing that translates

sack production. If you sack him in high school, you sack him in college, you go sack him in the pros. And I just don't know if you can say someone who got six secs his final season is going to be a double digit second artist and the pros, it's uncommon to see that kind of jumping because you're you're not only facing a higher level of an athlete, but a more complex scheme. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why the adjustment is is big. And when you

watch him, he's got some great tracks. Now he's big, strong, physical, he's got heavy hands. He does a great job of separating in the run game. Is a pass rusher though what Buckey's referring to with the six and a half shacks, his moves are very limited. He's still loves I don't want to say an amateur, but you can still tell

that he's a developing pass rusher. Where you're watching Aiden Hutchinson, you can see kind of moves that are in play and get put to kind of execution wise, and that's I think there's a big difference there as far as the P word, and I'm not talking about the potential

worst the production. Sometimes there was a guy who was a a scout that I used to know for a long period of time, and he said, the one thing you gotta be careful of is giving yourself a speeding ticket on a guy and getting excited about what you see when they're wearing shorts. And uh. And I think that that looks savon Walker. I think is a good football player. But what Bucky's talking about projecting a guy that sometimes can be interesting and and come sometimes flaw,

you know. And we had this conversation a little bit earlier, and what's the perfect role for a Walker? I think a four or three left defensive end would be a perfect fit for him and this defense here. I don't know if he's athletic enough to be a stand up outside linebacker guy, but he would be more of a defensive end guy. Then he could kick down to a free technique as a pass rusher. Somebody's got some flexibility. But is he gonna be that guy that's just gonna

be lighting up defenses and scaring quarterbacks? Maybe, but I don't think right out of the gate, Dan, it may take a while. And the one reason production matters in terms of sack production, there's an art to knocking the quarterback down. It's one thing to get close to it and to touch him and didn't, but to get him

to the ground. There's a talent to that. And I don't think you can under sail when a guy is unable to do it, because those who do they do it, and they do it year after year after year after year. And the one thing when you watch Walker on film, and Bucky will probably corroborate this, is that when he closes, that acceleration is instant. I mean, he's sure, you know.

And in the difference I think when you look at Hutchinson and Walker, is is that Hutchinson I think plays with a little better instinct, a little better anticipation, whereas Walker is still this dominant, physical, strong guy, but not quite anticipating yet. And I think that's probably a factor in the production. But could he be that guy? Could be?

I think at his high end, he plays like a disruptive run defender like Jadevion clown Jadevion Clowney has never been able to give you double digit sacks I think maybe until this year, but he was very disruptive against the run, and so he would create a lot of negative plays. TfL's force phone was in those things because of the athleticism and the explosiveness. But it's different. It's not what you typically would associate with a number one

overall pick. But he's not as athletic as he's high end. That is what you hope for. One more name. You know, they said they were down to four this past Friday. But one name that was mocked the Jaguars a lot going into the off season, early in the offseason was Cabon Thibodeaux. We haven't heard that name pop up. Why do you think that name slipped out of a lot of these mocks. So, I think there a couple of

things with Cavon Tipodeaux that rubs people the wrong way. Hi. When you turn him to take he is what we call a flash it. When he goes, it's impressive. But there are a lot of laws where he doesn't go, and so you're wondering is he gonna play hard all the time and a lot of times what you don't know is how is he going to change when the fame that a claim and the money and all that other stuff comes, are you gonna be able to get

him to turn it up? Now? To his credit, I don't know if he was coached hard at Oregon to learn how to run and play and go to the ball in those things. But what I will say his first step quickness is outstanding. Snap count anticipation. He has it. He has a natural bend to him that's going to allow him to get sacks to the quarterback. He also does a good job of taking guys right down the middle with a long arm. But the one thing that you worry about is does he love it enough to

go from good to great as a pro? That is the question and concern that you would have that that long arm kind of like a Rickey Jackson back in the day of the Saints. But when you talk about Ben, this guy's got Ben. Now I'm talking if you compared his athleticism to a Walker or Hutchinson, I think Thibodeau is a better athlete than all of them. It's it's different because it's funny because the numbers the other guy's

test better. But on the field, they're only handful of guys that can turn the corn and those three steps like he he has it and so if he decides that he wants to be great, he'll be a great player off the ends. You know, there's there's a lot of things that guys are doing what they do on a football field that shows athleticism. It's how low that they can be to the ground and still be in control. And this is a guy that has that athletic ability.

He can turn his foot it was like one foot towards the quarterback and when he plants that, he's turning and going that direction like a running back has the great ability to plan a foot and then and make that cut downhill. It's kind of the same thing, but a little different with a pass rushing who's the best in the game right now? With Ben been doing that? Von or back back when Von was in his prime, Von Von is not. His legs are getting a little

bit old. Uh Um. I think it's Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett has freaky athleticism anything, anything, and you can't come you can. He is like he's the athlete up here. Okay, everybody else lives down here in this neighborhood, but he's up here. And I think Jeffrey take when he came out, he wasn't a refined technically. He's getting ten sexs just off, I'm a better athlete than you. Almost turn the corner and go hit the court. Now he's learning both. No,

that's scary now for sure. The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new look in to join us of the bank this season was Doug Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence lead the charge. Walk in your seats at Jaguars dot Com, slash tickets or called nine oh four six three three two thousand. What to expect the rest of tonight after number one? Maybe the unexpectedness. We'll discuss it when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, you can make the case for Walker on fit as well, you know, And I look at Caldwell scheme and being there Todd Bowles and think about JPP and the success he had. You know, you could you could make that match there with Walker. I think you know, Hutchinson gett a chance to rush from a two point stance, there would would be pretty dynamic as well. Um So, I mean it's it's what you know right now with Hutchinson. I think he comes

in clear packaging. I think there's some unknown uh there with Walker, But I think that we sell Hutchinson's short on the ceiling, and I feel like we sell Walker a little short on the floor. I think they're they're they're both gonna be really good football players. Let's lead draft analysts for NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah in Las Vegas with Brian Sexton, and we are at Daily's Place for the doll Draft party. Gates open at five o'clock. The

festivities underway at six o'clock. That you draft underway at eight o'clock. JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagam, and Bucky Brooks with us from the next Yeah, who's that Jeremiah guy? We got? We got Bucky that he's the lead, he's a leader, he's at the network. Well, we're glad to have you here with us. I know that that's for sure. No matter what he's doing, it's awesome. No, that's great. This is great. This is great. First time I've been in a long time with the team on draft night and drafted.

The energy should be fun to be around it all over a year. Is there anything better than talking ball and talking home. I mean, unfortunately, that's really where this team has been after the last couple of years, and that's the only thing they've had to hold on to. His home, and that's the draft has always represented home, and this is a franchise that helps it. Some of the picks that they make today can change the fortunes. And that's why the fans I think, are extremely excited

about him. It should be excited. I'm more excited about Doug Peterson coming over, like having played with him, having played with some of the guys that are on the coaching staff, just really excited about the professionalism, Like those guys haven't played. Those guys haven't been on the field. I just think it would be a for a dynamic, different scene in the path you think. I just saying the last year was kind of a train wreck. Maybe So.

Jaguars inner today and there's NFL Draft with twelve picks on the docket, tied for the most in the National Football League. One today, three on the docket tomorrow, one of the second round, two in the third round, and then eight more on Saturday. How many of those do they actually pick? Do they make moves? Trader Trent, does he show up like he did in San Francisco. What happens here, guys, what do you think? Well? I mean, for me, I think this team moves up, and I

think it would be wise too. And when I say move up from the first pick of the second round, which is the first pick of Day two, you've got four or six round picks to seven or two sevenths and then you'll also have a fifth round pick. For me, those picks, use them as much as you can to get find a way to get back into the first round.

And there's a lot of guys to pick from, I think, and and Bucky has a little bit better handle on the overall talent of the draft, but Lucky, there's two guys that I really like, one of them the center in Iowa. The other ones of pass Rusher Perdue, Okay

linder Bomb and then George Carloftis. I think those are very interesting pick because ultimately you talk about Trader Trent, what you should do and what you are doing is you have a wish list that you want to come out of Draft weekend with these kinds of players, and so if you think about packaging, so let's just say we go with a pass rusher at one, then you want to come back in the second round and maybe you get an offensive linement, So then Linderbaum would be

in that conversation at thirty three. It makes at the end of the day, you're like, Okay, we feel good about where we are. And then I still believe they need a speed receiver somewhere in this draft, someone that can take the top off the defense to kind of spread it out from Marvin Jones and Christie Kirk and

z Jones and those guys to do work. And so it's where do I need to get to to get one of the best in those positions, and so trading up getting rid of those six and sevens to move into range to get players that can come in and be immediate contributors. That has to be the folks in emphasis. I just don't think you have enough roster spots for all of these picks that we're talking about if they stay put, to be able to make this roster, whether it be on practice squad or the active roster. I mean,

it's a tremendous amount of players. And then you look at the large free agency class that they brought in with some of the existing recent draft picks that you're hoping to develop. I mean, I think you've got to end up turning some of those picks into fewer picks, but higher ones players over picks, meaning blue chip players, players that can come in and contribute. And to your point,

George got loftis underrated throughout the process. He's a power rusher, and I think when we talk about athleticism, the fact that he was on the Greek national team as a water polo player, to me, speaks volumes about who he is. New to the game, still learning the game. But man, he's a powerful players. The little attitude, he has some stuff to him. He's got a lot of stuff to him.

He's really young. But but athletically, you know, we're talking earlier about the bend uh and and to get off and all the things that are key to a pass rush. The they call him the Greek freak. How to perdue this guy? He has, He's got some tools. How different is it? Then let's say, Hutchinson, I don't know, I don't I don't you know here, I think this is an interesting ban And I said this to somebody. I would not be surprised if Karl Laptus is a guy that could end up having as many sacks as a

Hutchinson could. Yeah, I mean, but he understands the artistry he played. Sorry, you gotta understand where he played at Perdue. There's been a number of pass Russince that's come out of there. He is up there at the top of the list when it comes to production and disruption and all those things. He's a really good player. He might fall out. He's god at the bottom of the first round, bottom of the first round, top of second death where he goes. Sometimes you gotta think about doubling up at

the position. There's nothing wrong with doubling up. If you want to address the need, go twice. Make sure you addressed by getting multiple Have you ever not a team that had too many pass rushers? You can't have right now? And as here's the thing, if you end up going Walker at one, okay, Walker is a is a three technique pass rusher once you get the sub package Nicola and don uh so I think he is. And then all of a sudden, now you need a guy around the edge and the game in the game, we're gonna

be a nickel. So you have to treat it like that. Make sure, you gotta you gotta roll him in. You can't have enough it used to be. The game has changed. It's a passing league, pinball football. You better score because they're going to on the other side. Speaking of that, let's shift our conversation out of the wide receiver position. You mentioned a deep guy, deep threat. Well, I mean, who are some of those guys that could be available lower first into the second round. Guys like Jamison Williams

might be out, a lobby might be gone. Garrett Wilson Ohio State probably gone. What's that next level of guy? Well, next series? Great. So you can see a bunch of wide receivers throughout this draft that can make an immediate impact in terms of roll specific guys for the Jaguars. Talking on Thornton from Baylor is somewhere for to eight at the combat but he's a lieutenant track star going all the way back. Big top speed can take the top off the defense, off the coverage. Then, did Jaguars

need that explosive playmaker? Jaden Tilbert from South Alabama another guy, a speaster that can take the top offer of coverage. If you want someone that is more of the route runner type, Khalio, secure guy from wen Go, Boise State. Another route runner that can do it. Different smaller guys Calvin Austin, but t tiny five seven. I don't know if you want that, but there's plenty of guys in the second, third round, even top of the fourth round they can make contribution as a speed received if the

guys five sevens, he better run like Tyreek Hill. He runs, but he's smaller. He's smaller, but he had to miss him because he's fast. But a little a little self evaluation here with the Jaguars, you have a lot of guys because uh literally with Laviscous Chanal and then Christian Kirk, these guys are I think, are more suited to the inside receiving positions. The one thing that you don't have, and Marvin Jones isn't even one of these guys. You don't have a guy that you can line up on

the outside and go. That's what you don't have. And so if you are gonna find a wide receiver in this draft, you better have a guy that's gonna go shoot, which, by the way, who means really fast, really bad? But what but what Larns is talking about is the way that we think about the wide receiver room. It needs to be a basketball team. You gotta have guys with different tools, sizes, shapes, left speed. You want to be

able to throw different things out there. And I wouldn't be surprised to also see another tight end find this way here based on the way that Doug likes to play twelve personnel two tight ends on the field, because you can dictate so many things in the run game and the passing game with those guys into me. Evan

Ingram is a jumbo slot receiver. We may have him listed he run out the tunnel with tight end, but he's a jumbo slot I mean really, And here's how you know that when when you watch him play, you look at how defensive coordinators play him. Defensive coordinators played him as a wide receiver all year. What you would like to have is a tight end that the defensive coordinator is in a little bit of a quandary, how

do we treat him? Well? The Kelsey's uh and the Gronx Okay of the league, they create legitimate matchup problems because if you put a small guy on him, he'll block and and all of a sudden, now you're out the gate and with the running games, and okay, that's the one thing that Evan Ingram is not. He's not a guy that can really block as a big man

and then catch the ball. So I'm like he's talking about buck, He's talking about don't be surprised if this team finds a tight end, and if they do, it'll be a guy that has the ability to do both and to do both well block in catch. Where do they find that. Tray McBride would be one. Tray McBride from Colorado State is the best one in the class, but he is someone second round ish that can do it. He's a guy that was a three spots standout in high school because from Colorado State called a lot of

pass but looking him block on the edges. Greg Dotches from u C l A walk on made his way into a big time receiver and playmaker formal receiver, but he can get gritty there. I just think it's really important we're seeing tight ends in importance of controlling the middle of the field making life easy for Trevor Lawrence. More tight end is more big bodies, more guys that

can do a bunts of different things. I would be a little surprised if they did go tight end just because you know, you you got a guy in free agency last year that you feel really good about as a blocker, and then you traded for a guy with Dan Arnold, and now you got Evan Ingram. You got two receiving guys and an inline guy. So I I know the draft. You you gotta do what they call trust your board, okay, and you're picking the guys that are had the highest grade, but sometimes sometimes the need

just kind of pulls your way into another position. Group. Going back to the start of our conversation here, don't turn off the television after number one, right, they could

jump back into night. Yeah, I would, I would think because if there's it in a prime spot, one in the top of the second round, So there's gonna be interest for the Jaguars one way deal either interesting coming up into the first round or everyone was the first big because there's going to be a name or two that surprisedly falls out of the first round that people are coming to wanting to get to. So it's a

nice spot for Trent Bak. He has to make a decision if there's someone that he identifies that I want to go get or do I want to play it conservative, back out lit some more picks and go get Well, I think there's gotta be somebody that they really like for them to trade up with that pick, because that pick has value. What we'll with what is called the

overnight factor. You know, if you still have that pick, you get to feel calls from thirty one teams from the end of the draft tonight until the draft starts tomorrow about somebody offering you picks to come out of that spot. So I think that's a very interesting situation to be in. But the number of picks that they have, and I think what we're talking about was if you've got a guy, go up and get them. Trader Trent getting ready. We heard from earlier here on jaguar Is

Happy Hour. We're back in a moment with a look around the National Football League the NFL Draft in Lons Vegas, Nevada. In two Bryan Sexton is out there for us on Jaguars dot Com. You'll see some of his interviews coming up. But he said it is built for the NFL Draft was built for a lot of things, but the draft fits in well. In Las Vegas, the Jaguars had the number one pick. We're back to close out Jaguars Happy

Hour after this on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com Jaguars Social channels, it's a live look at the Football Performance Centered construction site the side of the old practice fields, the side of old Wolfson Park. Well, it's now going to be the site for the new building for the Jaguars football operations and it should be

open and ready in the twenty three training camps. Is that a pool that they're digging in on the left side, It does look a little up. Yeah, yeah, that are a fishing pond. Wouldn't that be a fishing pond? Really, that's what we need around here, some more of those, perfect more yet, so that's to be open little bit. We see the construction every single day and just one of a few things going on here in the sports complex. Tonight, RV show logs, the Iceman have a playoff game tonight.

They have guns and Roses in concert. Apparently behind us, Axel Rose is getting allowed the roar of the Jaguar is going through their their warm ups to get ready for tonight's show here at Daily's Place. Hey, inside the stadium since the practice fields are gone, the Jaguars are having volunteering veteran mini camp on the game field now inside, so the first chance for coaches to be on the field with players. They're doing some minor things, throwing the

ball around a little bit, logs. Good thing. Yeah, pretty pretty neat too, and that you know, for this stadium typically has kind of like a gravel border around the outside eid of it, and they completely changed the field out its grasp completely from wall to wall on the plane field to maximize the ability of square inches as far as grass for the plays. At some point they're gonna start going across the river to Episcoper to use

their fields. But for the moment, for some of this all season stuff, uh, they're doing it right here in the stadio. Nice nice little practice field because that surface there is unbelievable, real nice. It looks nice. It looks nice to be able to do it and wising them practice in the stating. It's a nice feel to being

ever going there and do it. I know. It has to be nice for the players to finally get back to active with a new coaching staff kind of put some of the things they've seen it on the board to put him into player on the ground. It's early in that process, so I mean, right, I mean, we

just started. It's kind of interesting that you hear different comments from around the league about teams getting back on the grass and from Russell Wilson claiming to have you know, the great players that he's working with, and and Matt Ryan having some great receivers in Indianapolis. You know, every team in April feels really good about where they are, really good. You'ren want to be like, oh, we're gonna

stink this year. We know it. In May, like we can't say that we can't sit in the draft is when the optimism really is because now you've got new players, new energy, everyone's in the building the offseason, proach, undefeated. Everybody has a chance to Yes, thank you for that right there, knocking on the door. Let's go around the National Football League a few notes and the news and notes from around the league reports that the Raiders were

looking to trade tight end Darren Waller. Waller was on CBS Sports Radio this week said the team told him a trade is not going to happen. Why in the world would they trade him away? By Yeah, that's a room of going bad. You don't go in acquire Davante Adams to go with Hunter Renfro, signed Derek Carter and extended to then remove an Alfro weapon. No, he's going to be He's gonna be there for he he is, uh, I mean really arguably the second best tight end in football.

I mean, he's unbelievable and I don't think that he's reached his ceiling yet. That is totally false. Whoever came out with that rumor that he was gonna be traded, Raiders are not gonna get rid of him. Who's the number one tight end? Kelsey Kelsey, number one George Kittle, Let's say it was Kittling is good, okay, but Kittle's not the receiver that Kelsey and Kelsey. For a long time, I used to kind of question some of his blocking, but he's actually done a pretty good job and he's willing. Uh,

he's a little feisty. But Darren Waller is just you know, when you talk about freakish ability, I mean in the ability to run in length and catch radius. Uh, wow, he's got it all. Fifth year option week apparently. Of course, we mentioned Josh Allen got the fifth year option with the Jaguars, Christian Wilkins got it with the Dolphins, Kyler Murray with the Cardinals. Well, Daniel Jones apparently not getting

it with the New York Football Giants. How about that, Buck, Yeah, Danny Dives didn't get a fifth year option, but you kind of expected that based on the injuries, the number of turnovers. New coaching staff. You don't want necessarily lock yourself in because then you do it, you don't like him. You have a Sam Donald situation like you had in New York. So what you wanna do is, hey, if Danny Darris plays well, they'll give him his money. But he has to play well. He's not worth it right now.

I mean, that's the fact that's you know. I mean, the reality is is that he hasn't proven to be a great quarterback, and then until he does, you know, teams, teams aren't gonna just throw out the fifth year option at guys unless there's a lot of high productivity, especially at that quarterback position. Because the Giants have some amo in the future to be able to take a serious run out a quarterback in future draft class, not this one,

but in the future. Let's wrap up this Jaguars Happy our program j P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and Jeff Flagman. You know how quickly things can change when you're talking NFL Draft last May. If you're into the odds of number one picks and what way you're could go number one, some of these sports books started putting out their odds well last May. One of them were the initial odds they put out in May of last year for the

number one picked. This year, here's the order they had Spencer Rattler, quarterback Sam how cornerback Cavon Thibodeau, Derek Stingley Jr. Tetan Slova's from sc the quarterback Malique Willis, d G Daniels, Emery Jones. I mean, the list goes on, it changes, off seasons happened, a full college season happens, and then you never know. And of course tonight the Jaguar has had the number one overall pick logs. I'll start with you what happens at number one overall? That I Ade Hutchinson.

I think that's that's who they picked. And I might be wrong, and uh if if I was in Vegas. I might lose some money, but that's who I picked. I mean, if I really don't know what they're gonna do. But if I were making the pick, it would be hard not to pick Hutchinson, and it would also be very difficult to take the quarters, right. I think I usually pick one. I know, but I like both of those guys, and I want to trade back in and get the second and third overall pick for the first

sounds like Urban last year. I want to trade it to get cow picks. Wait a minute, he wasn't well. I did a deep die j p and uh. I think we can get the value for that pick. I like Hudsonson at number one. I'm still in my guts. Something that's telling me that tradebault Walker is going to end up being the pick. Maybe it's the Balky think, maybe it's the history then he had with all this. You know, sometimes it's hard to get out of guests

a year in your own mind. But traybauld Walker a Hudson, I believe it's going to be one of the past. Question and not the office and taunt. You're done with the offensive tack. I mean, I would like you, but I'm not thinking I don't have him pick, but if I did, it would be a Hudson because I believe he's the safest here. Here's the thing, and I think I was. I was posed a question on an interview that we did or I did earlier today with with with a group out on Ask and they said, you

know you are you a believer? They used to golf analogy, do you like hitting it down the center of the fairway or do you like to swing big. I'm a believer in hitting it down the fairway because sometimes when you just try to hit it down the fairway, sometimes it ends up being big because I think, and I'm not trying to be safe, but I'm just trying to you know, you trust your eyes and productivity and uh to me in the film says a lot. And it's hard to argue against the productivity in the film of

Aidan Hutchinson. And then you throw in the football character, because the character really really matters. The guy really loves ball, he's a great teammate, He's done everything that you want to see from a work ethic standpoint throughout the time in Michigan. He's going to continue to be the same guy here. I think it would really fit in well

in this locker room. And and here's the thing. When you talk about locker room fit, you're trying to change the culture here, Okay, and this I think this is a guy that can help change a culture. But if they don't take Aidan Hutchinson, Detroit will go crazy. Detroit will absolutely crazy. And if they don't take Aidan Hutchinson here there will forever be a comparison if the Jaguars take Walker with Hutchinson. There you have it. The picks are in on Jaguars Happy Hour coming up. Our coverage

continues on Jaguars dot Com at seven thirty. It's Draft Night in Duvall our pregame show. If you will for the NFL Draft. We'll get you ready for the number one pick and beyond the Jaguars at number one. The Jags have twelve picks in this draft, at least going into today. We'll see how many they have after today. For Bucky Brooks, Jeff Logging, and our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll see a little bit later here at Daily's Place. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.