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over a week before the NFL Draft. Now today, one week away from the draft, will review some of their comments, including balancing value and need. Well, Urban Meyer, and we'll get into some of those comments from each side. Balky is a big value you that's big been his big word lately, and you know need and and all that. It's kind of urban Myers the thing of it, and the value is kind of new to him in the NFL. Well, the search for information in this pre draft process has

been interesting. Our comments on that. The off season program underway, and we'll go around the National Football League and some rules changes that we're voted in this week as well logs. Good afternoon, man, good afternoon. How the heck are you. I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man. Day has been good, Gonna get better. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's keep keep the keep it moving up to JP. The

trajectory is up. Okay, that's good, you know, and and and so and here's the best part is that the day has been great so far. It's gonna be capped off with a fantastic meal tonight. Oh and some good fellowship. It's a it's all good. That's pretty good day. Yeah, I know, it's a fantastic dude. You've had a You've had a day. I've had a good We're gonna have

a good hour ahead. That's all we can control. Moving forward here, let's get right into it from yesterday, Urban Meyer Trent Bawky sat down and had their press conference before the draft next week. Of course, did you catch much of it? What's your I read the transcripts and everything, and boy, you missed the the in person. Usually it would be like like a media lunch and to gather and get a free meal and and and here the

coach and the general manager give you absolutely nothing. But but I think the insight was pretty good on Urban's part and Trent Bawky's part. It would have been nice to be able to do it in a in a personal setting as far as like it's been done in the past, but obviously this is the COVID world that we live in. But but I thought they were they were very revealing, and I thought that urban Meyer particularly was very revealing when he started talking about balancing the

value and the need. Uh uh. And we can get right into that because most coaches that they want instant gratification, no doubt, and he's always had that in college. By the way, in recruiting four and five star guys, you doesn't have to go draft and develop again. Yeah, you don't need to worry about that. You don't need to worry about contracts in college. But as a coach in college, look, you can go and get a junior college transfer. You can go have a great recruiting class and change the

dynamic of your football team instant. Well, in the NFL, you've got to be able to do that by balancing the payroll. And that's the hard part. So when when they keep using this term value, value essentially means that you need to get a strong performance for the money that you are paying this individual. So you need to get a strong return for your dollars. And that's something new or certainly different than the college game and the NFL.

That's just the way it is. If you're gonna be a team that has great success, you have to have a roster that gives you a lot of value. Let's hear from Urban Meyer on this topic from yesterday in the media conference. As a coach, I find myself always looking at need and that's where you gotta be cautious.

You start chasing players instead of this whole the whole idea of value is completely new to me, and that's something that, uh, you know, I'm relying on, you know, Joe Cullen and Bebel as coordinators, and Brian Snyder who have extensive experience in the NFL, and then obviously Trent and his staff. So I've I'm a quick learner. I've been working at this now for about three months and the last I can't imagine the last three or four weeks. You know, this has been our entire life in that room,

watching video, stacking the board. So trusting the board is key. I'm at the point almost there that I will trust it. But as a coach, I can see where you, uh, we need this, we need this, and we need this, and that's where you get yourself in trouble. So it's been a great learning experience for me. And ask your question, nervous, I'm nervous, spoilt everything. I think that's Irvan Meyer yesterday. Let's also hear from Trent Balky the other perspective this thing.

I didn't count how many times he said the word value yesterday, but here are a few of them. I think when you when you look at the draft, you're looking at value. You're you're stacking the board based on the value of a player, not necessarily on need. If you do that, you you tend to overvalue players. And you do that consistently, and you're not going to be

in the game long. So you know, what we try to do is just look at the player for what he is, stacked the board for what it is, and and let the board speak to us on draft day and if there's as if there's a player there at a position of need and we have it valued that way, the decision would be to go with the with the need. So It's not like Auji Board talking to you a little different on you know, you stacked the board like

you said. There, so and remember the right, I've never personally played with them, but so uh either way, So that's the difference, right, I mean, urbans trying to figure out what the definition of value is in balance and marriage and things about you. I never knew playing with them about boards, right. Yeah. The one thing that I think is interesting what Trent Balky talks about and you say that, I lost count how many times that he

says the word value. We've we've had some fun around here in the past when you have catch words like that and you count them. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, and you know what I mean. Yeah. But anyway, the the one thing I think that is pretty cool, and this might be a need exercise for somebody that is into the mock draft type of things. Pro Football Focus actually has a mock drafter. Have you ever seen that JP? No,

literally I have not. You go to this website and if you put in PFF mock draft, and you can do this while we're on the show right here, drafter. When you go to it, you actually, okay, yes, you choose which team you are, so you can I'm gonna pick they. So you make your pick, okay, and then what it does, it fills in all the other picks and then you're back on the clock again at so you're gonna pick I woul assume Trevor Lawrence at one, and then it populates the picks two through and then

you're back on the plock. And then you have a value board that you can look at what the best available candidates are and they have rankings and so value would be something of this nature to where you're you do the simulator and you're always picking the person that is at the top of the players remaining on your board. And so but it's a cool little simulator thing. And the distracted Trevor Lawrence, okay, in this mock, you know what will happen is that they will make all the

picks two and then you're on the clock again. And then the safety went three picks ahead. That's unfortunate, Bateman. The wide receiver's gone very tucker. The town a cool thing. It's a really cool thing. And so, um what you do then once you make all your selections, you're making every pick that the Jaguars have, you're making two and round one two and round two two and round four, you got one third round pick, you got your you know,

your late round picks. You do all of them, and then once you're done, they give you a grade on every pick, and then they also give you an overall grade. So it's just something fun to do. So if you're a Jaguars fan and you want to play like Urban Meyer and Trent Balky a little bit between now and the draft next Thursday night, this is an awesome little thing and an awesome little tool I think I ended up getting. I think I did about ten drafts right now.

I would do something different every time, and I did something different a lot of times because they would choose some different things, and I would do it just out of curiosity of what kind of a grade would I get if I picked and reached for a center in round two? You know that was rated thirty players below

the guy that was the top of the board. But anyway, it's a cool little thing, and it's something that I think fans of any team can have fun with and uh and become a general manager for a couple of minutes. I gotta say I'm about tired of mock drafts though, Yeah, but that's like two minutes. But to complete a draft, there's so many mocks, and they all changed after free agency.

To remember that everybody the wave of mox and then totally agency hits, and now we're doing another wave of mox and now there's the week of mocks and trade mocks only, and like all these mocks everywhere, uh it uh and that that's just the way it is. And I don't read, I really don't. I don't read a

lot of mock drafts. I don't I like to read the rankings or how they rank players, how they how people stack players, because I think in the mocks, I mean, sometimes people do things for entertainment value, which is great, I mean, and that's the whole purpose. You want to be entertained, just like with the with the PFF mock Draft simulator. But uh, I get a little tired of reading mock draft you know what I mean. And because there's so many different possible outcomes and so you don't know,

especially like the seven round mocks. Who the hell knows what's gonna happen in the seventh round. Well, if you do the PFF simulator, a bunch of times. You might have a clue, you'll have a better you might have a better idea. I know my homework for the weekend. And the nice thing is, too, is they actually have a little bit of a description about every player in there, so you can for for people that are looking to maybe learn the draft a little bit better, this is

a a good way to do it. It's great, you're gonna you're gonna be doing it the weekend and just just do that. Yeah, JP and Jovi doing the Funday And when we get back, Joe's wife Lynda is gonna be Joe coming to bed. I'm on the sixth round. Give me, I got a few picks, were trading up. We're trading up. A lot going on, all right, So there your mock drafts are here. We're a week away, man, Finally, well it's not even finally. We're still a week to go.

But well, and I think the best part is we're a week away from what what many expect that this franchise is gonna be the directions changing next Thursday night, regardless of how it how it turns out, it's one of those where it'll be before Trevor and after Trevor. Really it could be if he turns out to be one of the great Um, this is the moment. Well, this is the moment, artless of what he turns out to be. I mean, if he turns out to be the next Hall of Fame type quarterback, it's certainly it's

it's a it's a monumentous occasion. If he turns out to not be a Hall of Fame type quarterback and something bad happens, we'll still look back at it and say that was the day that could have changed the franchise. But I mean, so this is the day that the franchise is changing next Thursday night, and it's changing with that pick and then obviously the ensuing pis But but

it's an exciting time. Look, uh, you know, I've been kind of a casual observer of this draft as far as evaluating some of the talent, I haven't had as much time this year. But the one position that I have watched his quarterback, and make no mistake about it, that Trevor Lawrence is everything is advertised everything. And uh, I got excited about Patrick Mahomes a couple of years ago, and I said that I thought he was the greatest quarterback that I've ever watched film on. You did say that,

and I and and I'm willing. I'm not willing to go to that extent with Trevor Lawrence, but I'm willing to say that he is right there as the second greatest quarterback that I've ever watched film on. He's impressive. Right behind He's right there with Andrew Luck. You know, because I don't go back to the John Elways and the Marinos. I didn't watch film on them, Okay, but watching Trevor Lawrence on film, he can do anything and everything, and he's got a certain presence about him obviously, and

he's had great success. And so when you combine all of the physical attributes, which is what really stood out on film and watching Patrick Moms, when you watch Trevor Lawrence, the physical attributes stand out, but then also just what he's been able to accomplish at a young age in college, leading a Clemson team to a national championship right out

of the gate. I mean, it's just impressive. Plenty more Trevor talk ahead, we'll hear again from Urban Meyer and Trent Baukey on the potential number one overall pick a little later. Yeah, potential, it's it's not that there's still a chance. They got got to talk to ownership first to see We'll hear from Urban and see what you an ownership is saying right now. Probably why you ask Trent Urban. If you don't draft Trevor Lawrence, you might

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know what, we don't have bad players. A matter of fact, we have exceptional players at certain positions, some that have to play better. But we have a good poor You're gonna have a great fan base. You watch what happens to this fan base and we start doing what we're supposed to do. Winson Dan Games. That's The Hunt episode two tonight on Jaguars YouTube channel and Jaguars dot Com. That's Urban Meyer, of course, and welcome back. It's Jaguars

Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman. That's gonna be fun tonight. It's Urban. That's the first team meeting, like it's the first meeting. It's a virtual meeting, but it's gonna be weird, guess to be to be a head coach and to do a virtual team meeting like that where you're standing up in front of the room and talking to a camera and your first interaction with your

team everyday, it's it's just different. It's just so different, and you know, I I hope that uh in the future, next year that you can get back to the normalcy of having coaches and players interact. And uh, I know that this stage of the all season program is is only virtual and then the opportunity for in person stuff will come up in Phase two, three or four days long. It's not it's not a very long period of time, but you know, that's that's what that's what coaching and

the coach player relationship is about. It's not about watching a guy on a phone or watching a guy on a laptop screen. I mean, that's just it's just not normal, you know. So I if I was a player, I would long for having some normalcy of being coached in person, being on the field in person, not being oh hey, you know how you've been Oh yeah, good, and you know, and you might be at home and you got the camera from here up and you know, you look like

your professional prepared. The next thing, you know, you know, maybe the guys got cheetos and we're in his underwear or something, you know, he was off the camera or something. You know. I mean, just just it's just different. It's just odd and just real quick a note, yes lives you know, the NFL p A and I know you're probably going to do this later on, Let's do it now. I know we we had a last week. If you miss our show last week, and I don't know why

you would. The logs, you had a nice run there on the Players Association and their announcements on behalf of certain teams that they were going to skip voluntary workouts in this offseason, and you were against the way they did that. Well, first of all, they put the release out and then cited safety issues with COVID, which is

totally inaccurate. The league has more safety precaution measures in place than anywhere else player could possibly train unless he's gonna train on his own in some cabin out in the middle of nowhere, okay, and not be around anybody. But we all know that that's not the reality. Players don't have the facilities that are available to them that they would have here. Some players, some players, but JP

was very small. But to go back to the league started the off season activities really when Jimmy Johnson came into the National Football League in nine, which is my rookie year. That's when everybody started doing it because Jimmy was winning and he was doing it, so then everybody wanted to do it. And I will say that in my six years in New York, we never had all

season activities with my teammates. We didn't have it. We got together for mini camp and what we did at mini camp was not so much about practicing, but we drank more beer than we did anything out because we hadn't seen each other in a while in the town. But when I came to Jacksonville and Tom Coughlin had his program set and obviously he had it set up to mirror a lot of what Jimmy Johnson did, it was tremendous. And it was tremendous in so many different ways.

Number One, you're working towards the common goal. You're getting to know your teammates, You're getting to know your coaches. You're getting competition that develops in the weight room that made me better, that made me physically better that I could not do that on my own. It created a bond between guys on the team, the guys that were that were on the team. I mean, it was a very special bond because we were together and we were together a lot, and in the bond between the coaches

as well. It was it was it was all part of a process that was formed, and it was all in the in the whole concept of trying to improve as a team because we knew that we were going to be an upstart and expansion team and we had to be at our best in every total way in order for us to be competitive. That's all season in that year I hold near and dear in my heart because it was the first time that I got to experience a team in an all season. And so what the Union is is kind of doing in a way

is encouraging not to have that atmosphere. And if the players don't ever get to experience that atmosphere of creating the sense of team and creating bonds and friendships, I mean, they're missing out. And so that's why it's just kind of disappointing for me from the Union standpoint. And look and I and I understand that the Union is there to make sure that things are that are voluntary are

truly in fact voluntary, get it. But but I think that they're they're going about it in a little bit of a wrong fashion and that they're almost looking down upon some of the great benefits of having the off season together with your teammates. Because I can tell you this, I had a great off season. Corey Mayfield, Joe Shmany, Calvin Pritchett, Don Davy, I mean, all these guys that we had as defensive lineman, Ernie Logan that first year, Jason,

I mean all of us. We had a great time, got to know guys, you know, and and that kind of carried us through the season. And uh and I hope that teams and players on teams that haven't decided what they're gonna do yet, I can remember that. That's also a very special part of the O T A S. That is the as a benefit and not so much a distraction to what the all season can be. Anyway, just wanted to I want to say that because that was an eye opener from e JP I had, even

though even Tom Coughlin was a total pan the ass. Okay, just put that out there. Okay, your battles are noted. He required us to do things that were way over the top, and he violated so many different rules and protocols. There's no question about all that. But I appreciate him for what he did because you know, it helped me experience something that took me back to college and it created a great sense of team and uh and I hope the players in the NFL can experience that like

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know where people are sitting. I want to know what camera, what we're gonna be looking at on the screens, and and Trent's been great, and this is the first time this organization, this uh personnel of this organization and do it. So we're gonna be on point. And so at this point we we've had a couple of dry runs, but we're gonna go in great detail early next week about exactly how it takes place, and so I'll feel much

better after that. That's urban Meyer discussing his first draft room experience that will happen this coming we can welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logovan and Travel Camp presents the Jacksonville r V Stadium show April through May second at t I a bank Field factory. Reps will be on site within sent him special financing and giveaways. So, uh, they got to build the room

and do all that. And they've done that, and you know, it's it's a different space than normal this year, and the normal draft room is no longer in use at least for now, so they've moved i think down the hall to an additional, bigger space. You can have more people in there and that kind of thing. So all that's coming up this week, and it's all coming up because the Jaguars around the clock, they will be number

one overall. Here's something when he when he starts talking about cam and such and where things are gonna be at and because look, the league is going to be watching the the football world is going to be paying attention. The football world is gonna have a camera in this room here in Jacksonville for that first overall pick in the draft. I mean, this is this is a big deal.

So I'm sure that uh, one of the look, if you're drafting, you know, and you're in the twenties or something like that, maybe you're not that concerned about it.

But look, I mean this is also another opportunity at Urban Meyer making a first impression, you know, with the Jaguars obviously in tow to America, to prospective free agents, to all of these guys that are going to be drafted this year, because you're trying to build a little bit of a resume, and so by making a positive impression with everything that is shown from here is going to help reflect well on your organization in the future.

So um, so I get it. I mean, he wants to know exactly what it's gonna look like, what it's gonna feel like, and and that's I think why he said that. You know, look, I'll feel a lot more comfortable once we do that dry run the early part of next week and we know how things are gonna be set up and then and then we roll. So but a pretty cool little deal there, though, you know, because there's gonna be a lot of attention, right yeah, oh, no doubt about that number one overall pick for the

first time ever. And Urban was asked yesterday in that media conference, you know, you said on the Peter King podcast the other week they were leaning in the Trevor Lawrence direction. He wouldn't go out and all the way said he was gonna let the ownership make that move. He was asked again, are you ready to make that decision now? And what's holding you back? And here's the answer.

We are knee deep in the NFL draft process obviously, and you know we're gonna meet with ownership tomorrow and and uh, Trent and I are, you know, working together, but ultimately that's the owner is gonna pull that ticket on that one. And so we're gonna have a great meeting tomorrow, and I imagine we'll get closer to a decision. I wonder, you know, if you're a fly on the wall in that meeting room logs, what would it sound like in there? Mr con We've made our decision, we think,

but with your blessing, we're gonna draft Forrevor Lawrence. Well, yeah, right, No, I don't know, obvious, right, I don't know what else you supposed to say. I don't know, you know, it's a look. Uh, And I think that meetings tomorrow. I think, well, they moved it around a couple of times and then I think they decided that it was today to their days mixed up that there's no windows back there. I

don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean there are no windows, don't know what time of day, and they kind of lose track of what's going on. But yeah, I mean it's uh, you know, like ownership is. Uh. I'm sure is a static about the possibility of drafting a franchise altering quarterback, because that's what truly can change the fortune obviously of this franchise, and you have to have a lot of other things in place to make it all work, but it it is truly a special moment.

Let's hear from Trent Balky, now Jaguars general manager, when asked about the research behind Trevor Lawrence the Zoom interviews, the calling of sources around Trevor to get in his background a little bit. What did they find? Was there anything wrong in the background of Trevor Lawrence? Well, the easiest way to answer that is no negatives. You know,

all the research we've done. You know, you're always looking for the stars to align when you're looking at prospects, whether that be from a physical, mental, character back, you know, whatever the case may be. And with with this situation, like many others in this draft, the stars all aligned, and that's what you're looking for. You told me for TV that we did an interview this week as well. It'll air next week in the UK and then on

television here on Draft Night. Yeah, it's it's about as clean a prospect as he's seen well, and that's, uh, that's incredibly rare if you go to quarterback prospects that are or were incredibly clean. I mean Andrew Luck, I mean Andrew Luck was as clean as a whistle successful, had everything checked all the boxes, much like Trevor Lawrence.

And so, uh, no question that Trent Balky is right and that the stars don't always align on many guys, but they certainly were aligned with Andrew Luck, and they're aligned with Trevor Lawrence. And there are some alignments of

with other guys, but at a different level. Because when you're talking about the first overall picking the draft and it being a quarterback, I mean, it's just not very often that everything aligns, and so a very rare occasion for for and and and the best part is is that it's if you were if you pulled every general manager in the National Football League, every one of them, and if you pulled all the quote unquote experts of who is worthy of being the first overall pick. Would

anybody say something different than Trevor Lawrence? I don't think something. I mean, there might be one or two just because you know, I mean, that's the only one that I've even heard that even has an inkling that it would be something different. I want to say it's Chris Simms came out and said that Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson would be the guy. But he's the only one, and that

and that's that's amazing, that's amazing. And in fact, the Jaguars had an article on jaguars dot com that if you looked in it and it's basically had all of people's mocks, that's the mock draft tracker. But on right and John wrote down who everybody had picked first overall? Was there anybody that wasn't? I don't think so. I don't think that's all. It's all been Trevor all the time. And there was how many how many pet experts were on that list? It was dozens? Yeah, I can tell

you this. I kept going, am I not scrowing the right way? What's going on? Yeah? Right? So there's that, and then you know, We also talked when when we had to sit down with Balky the other day. He has a history of moving around in drafts. By the way, he's not scared to pull the trigger and make a trade that we're not out of that one. He said, never say never on the ozone podcast when they asked

about it. But really at thirty three and especially once you, like we were talking about the other week, you get to those later rounds. Is the value better in two? Is it you know? Or is there a certain guy in a in a position group in a place, a few spots up, Hey, let's put put some picks together and move. He did that. There was a window and

draft he said. I asked him what was the what's the best draft day story, success, trade, moved whatever, And the first thing that hit his mind was where he executed three draft pick trades in like a five minute real time window, up, down, up again, different spots and ended up with Carlos Hide at the end of that. Who's now of course on the Jaguars roster again. But um, that was a lot of moving around and his first drafty took over late because of a change in the

front office. Traded down to get Navarro bowman that worked out, got an extra fourth round pick. The next year used that pick to move up a few spots and get Kaepernick the quarterback, And those guys were a big piece of that Super Bowl run, the first one in San Francisco, no doubt. And I think that with the Jaguars, the number of picks you've heard me say about, Hey, look, if you can trade some of that current equity for

future equity, be great. Yeah. The big question mark is is that you've got to be able to find a willing trading partner to be able to do that. And I think that this year's draft picks are not going to have quite the value. For examples I stretch, I think another way to say it besides using the word value, but this year's draft picks probably aren't going to have the value that they have had in past drafts, just because this year's picks there's a lot of unknowns with

some of these players. Guys that had that opted out, there's guys that teams didn't play, there's guys that didn't go to Indianapolis for a medical check, and so the team is making a lot of these selections without medicals, without a season to evaluate, et cetera. So do these picks this year would they would would they hold the value to trade them away for future picks as they

have in the past. Probably not. You may have to give more up now to get what you used to get in the future because of that, because of the unknowns that are involved with this year's picks or with the information involving this year's picks. So I don't know if you're gonna be able to trade now. Look, can you can you trade some of this year's equity to maybe move up in this year's Yeah, I think for

this year's possibility. Yeah, but for but for trading a this year pick for a future pick, I don't think the value is going to give you as much as it's given you in the past. You know, because in years past, for example, you can move up around basically seven six, two to one, three to two, four to three, etcetera, etcetera. On down the line, my guess is is that you may not get a full round increase from moving from this year's draft to next year's draft. Mhmm. You see

what I'm saying, And see what you say. I think you might. You might only get trade partners willing to do business. In the current draft, you may not get teams that are willing to give up the future equity as willingly just because they're all anticipating that next year, Okay, there's gonna be more normalcy, there's gonna be a combine,

there's gonna be seasons. We're gonna have the ability to evaluate everything, and that will make next year's picks better because we're making determinations based on more information and less on faith as we are this year. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out, though, to see if that does in fact, is that impacted are the value the future values and related to this year are

the impacted and how much it might not be. It might not be at all, might might not be at all, But it will be interesting to see none the lesson And this draft to me, because the Jaguars have a pick at and could move either way with that. If there's a guy they really wanted twenty, maybe they package somethings. Maybe. And then also because of what could happen at three, and then what could happen at four and five and six and seven, et cetera. The number of quarterbacks that

are gonna be at the top of the draft. I mean, this is about as uh of an intriguing of a draft is that has been in recent memory, right, I mean this is I think there's gonna be a lot of a lot of really good storylines in this draft. What was the big quarterback here? Eighty four was the Lway and those guys and Todd Blackledge and yeah that was that was Tony Easton. It was Marino U Marino, Tony Easton, Kenny O'Brien. So that was a big, big,

obviously quarterback here. This this could be one, two, three, four, and yeah, which is this the last time was it where you had this number of quarterbacks at the top of the draft and it was uh, it was like, uh, Achille Smith and a couple other guys right at the top of the draft. I want to say that was and that's the last time that quarterbacks were like eating up the top of the first round. So that means some good players could slide down a little bit all

these quarterbacks. But yeah, I don't like to use the term slide just because that means that you're you're saying you're over you're overvaluing quarterbacks. There's no such thing as overvalueing quarterbacks in this league. There's such a thing as undervalue in a quarterback. But if you're not, if you're not, if you if you don't understand, if you're in personnel, and you don't understand that you have to have a quarterback in this league to win, you're full. You can

value the wrong quarterback. That happens all the time. But you've got you gotta be willing. You've got to be willing to play the game, you know, because if you don't, you know, for example, look the Jaguars that you draft three quarterbacks that you were hoping we're gonna be franchise guys here that are in the Jaguars history. Byron Leftwich, Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles. Nothing wrong with picking those three guys. Okay,

look you take a chance. I mean, Byron had all the intangibles, the intelligence, I mean, you can see that now. He's a great coach, wasn't able to execute as well at a at a high level. Blaine had all the physical actects, great on the practice field, but wasn't able to translate in a game. And he he's improved, but he's still not what you know, you expected to be a franchise guy. Blake didn't have the skill set, but had the moxie and the toughness and the mindset a

little bit. I mean, so the it's never a mistake by picking a quarterback if you're in the National Football League. The mistake is is realizing or not realizing that they're not the guy that you need to have in plays and then passing up opportunities to take somebody else. Admit your mistake. You have to be able to do that. Fix it because everybody's gonna miss. Look, that's the draft

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you missed the live stream of it. But you've a lot of hard work going in to that series and welcome back is Seaguar is Happy Our j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logman and Travel Camp presents the Jacksonville r V Stadium Show April twenty eight through May second at t I, a bank Field factory, reps on site with incentives, special financing and giveaways. You're an r V guy, he gives a r V. Uh. I think r v's have a have a place. Absolutely, they're great. I mean, you know,

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through the proposed rule changes. Since then, the ownership in the NFL has voted to pass a handful of these, including eliminating over time in the preseason. That's done. That's no brighter, Thank goodness. They should have done that anyway. For one year, they will establish a maximum number of players in the setup zone. This is on kickoff return team and what twenty five yards to the line of scrimmager gonnaly be a certain amount of players to help

with on site. Basically, it makes the possibility of having a successful onside kick, it raises the chance of it. So that's UH number one and number two. They tabled number three the rule change there so number four was to permit the replay officially and designated members of the officiating department to provide certain objective information to the on

field officials. No brainer there. There was some that wanted to expand that and actually add another person into the replay booth that would allow that person to solely be essentially a sky judge. That was actually the Ravens pulled that back, UH and then put their support behind this proposal,

and uh, and and I think it's good. The insurement of enforcement of all accepted penalties committed by either team during successive try attempts, extra points or two point conversions, and then adding a loss of down for a second forward pass from behind the line, and for a pass thrown after the ball returns behind the line. There was a Tom Brady play this year where he threw the ball, hit a defender, bounced back, he caught it, and then

he threw it again. The pass and then the penalty basically would have given them another opportunity instead of loss of down. Well, I mean that's not right. He threw two passes, which you can't do. It should be a loss of down, and which now it is, so it's it makes sense. And then of course the last one, which is long overdue, which is allowing more Jersey option numbers for players the different positions, which it should have been.

As I said before, it was getting a little tiresome to not see single digits allowed by players of different positions. It made zero sense to not allow it. Just leave zero out. No, I mean, dude, the longest yard, the big guy that uh, I think I broke his neck it was turned a little differently. He was double zero, right, somebody should be allowed let double zero? Let Jim Otto keep Did he wear double zero? Is that guy and longest yard? I don't know. Ken Burrow, by the way,

is the last NFL player to wear double zero? From here in Jacksonville? What the range? Would you be opposed if somebody wore zero? That's don't like zero? And I don't know your personal preference? They started? Yeah, yeah, okay, So were you against the single digit rule too? Yeah, Like, there's a reason linebackers are certain numbers. There's a reason linemen are certain numbers. There's a reason defensive backs are certain numbers. And make a couple of exceptions if you

have to. But like the Chiefs had to last year. Okay, fine, don't change the whole rule. Do you sit too much noise? And that's terrible walking down the street? Yes, yes, Joe Fortunato Hello, Tom Brady said that it's a dumb rule because people won't know who to block. Now, aren't you just blocking the guy with the other jersey, Tom Brady? Look, Tom Brady needs to stick quarterback good at it's pretty good at it. You know who to block because you

know which numbers they were. You study film. Okay, I know that John wears number one. Joe might wear number fifty something, so I know I got a block number one or number fifty. It's not that hard to figure out. And it's not like you change Oh my gosh, he's wearing a number one, so I can't block him. No, it's where he's lined up at. You could take the numbers. Seriously, you could take the numbers off of everybody on defense offensive lineman. We'll know who to block as long as

they can identify one guy. Okay, the big tall dude with the blonde hair, he's the mic. They can all block after that. Okay, once they set the mic, they know. Why don't they just change all the offensive lineman numbers to let them wear whatever they want. They're not doing that. Well, that's different because it's a little different. Oh, you can't is an eligible number, JP. That's why they didn't expand single digits. Don't don't overcomplicate it. Come on, it's really simple, JP.

It's really not that hard. And they're gonna tonning a point of emphasis this year, by the way, which it's always been a point of emphasis. They just said they got a little lax last year and they didn't call it as frequently as they should have. Should always have an emphasis always, Okay, And when we're not talking about celebration, we're not talking about a guy, you know, doing a

dance in the end zone because he scores. We're talking about somebody who hits a guy stands over the top of him and points at him, or froze spikes the ball in his face or something of that nature. That's a little different. M I did like the playoff one though, where the guy did the victory signed to Tyreek Hill after the final play of the game. It was the rookie safety for the Bucks because he did it to his dad played in the NFL for a long time. What is his name? I forget, but yeah, no it was.

It happened to him. Tyreek did it to him, the peace sign stuff like him. Now he did it at the end of the what Super Bowl? I guess are you giving us the sign Alright, we'll wrap it up, he says, We'll wrap up with some sad news tonight. By the way, former Jaguars linebacker Geno Hayes, he played here in and fourteen, is now in hospice care. He's been battling liver disease for a couple of years. He's

thirty three years old. He's in hospice care at his parents home in Georgia, and he's looking for a liver transplant. Now he's on the Mayo List. Our best wishes to Gino. Hopefully he gets it. Uh, he didn't just play for the Jaguars. He also played for the Bears and the Bucks. Was a draft pick, I believe of the Bucks out of Florida States. So I hope, I hope he gets what he needs. Yeah, no doubt, And he was Those

were some lean years here in Jacksonville. Of course the start of the rebuild, that what they thought was gonna be the rebuild. But he was the third leading tackler in rebuild rebuilding jp S still to this day. But our best wishes to Geno Hayes and his family for a full recovery. Hopefully at some point soon. Let's get that man, Oliver, And thank you folks for listening tonight. We've got a week to go. Loge peace. We're out

of here. Thanks to Brent Reaver, thanks to Joe Fortunado, our entire crew for Jeff Locker, but I'm j P. Shadrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.