Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 21

I'm Jaguars defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today. He can bring the energy. I might get a word in edgewise. We'll see if what coach has to offer today at four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville, and then the team that he inherited in the defense to line room and what could be ahead. And then Pro Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four forty or four forty five today, we'll get his thoughts

in the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide his thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, j Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Uh Buttner still looked like he's in playing shape. What are we playing? No, he's he's fine, He's fine. Now I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. He First of all, he was a good football player. He played for twelve years. He's a good football player and a lot of you know, teams that rivals of the Jaguars back in the early days Dealer for a while. Yeah, good football player for

a long period of time. And and uh, when you play the position that he did for twelve years, you did something right. So so that's a I think that's a great coaching staff. High. I'm a big believer that coaching matters. I know there are some people thinks that's about the Jimmy's and Joe's and not the exes and the ohs, and I think that they're or is something

to that, But I think that coaching does matter. That's why Bill Belichick has been so successful for so long, and that he knows how to put people in the right position. He knows how to put people in position to win. And when you can do that, you're gonna win a lot of football games. So I like, I like good football coaches. They make good football players. They can't make what's the old thing chicken salad out out of you know, out of chicken? Yes, thank you. Yeah,

that's a good, good analysis, JP. That's deep. I like that. You're good, You're on it. We're bringing the heat today and we'll he'll bring the heat Brinson Buckner at four fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars defensive line coach to get his thoughts on they picking JP did he did? He said, are we we gonna didn't squeeze? You know,

I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna go there with him, because well, you know, I'm curious though, like the process of evaluating all these prospects they come in for visits, like what do you want to know when you have them in the bill thing for a day? Like I'm you know, like what do you talk about with this everything? And it's very informal. I mean, that's that's the whole reason why they like to bring them in.

It's it's a it's a little bit less of you know, you can't as an agent or uh whatever you want to call a person that prepares a prospect for visits or the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an individual for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it for fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that that's I think the the environment that the coaches and the and the personnel people like to get these guys in here because they're out of their comfort zone a little bit,

they're not as quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing. But JP, here we are a week out and you know what we have now entered one week out from the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything that you hear from kind of here until the draft is typically gonna be some kind of a smoke screen, or can be perceived as some kind of a smoke screen to throw people off of a trail or two

do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens. The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting out smoke screens. What's the point. Well, I don't I don't think that. I think that they have somebody in mind. But here's the reality. I think if if they or to get any one of three guys, they would be happy and I don't know who those three guys are. I mean, I've got an idea who I like, but

I mean, I don't know exactly who they like. But but that's how close some of these guys are right at the top of the draft. I really believe that, you know, from uh Neil to Ikey to Hutchinson to uh you know, the defensive entry on Walker from Georgia. I mean, I think all these guys are kind of right there at the top. And I know that typically since you just drafted a quarterback and oh, by the way, you gotta, I think it's gonna be a really good one.

In Trevor Lawrence last year, it would be awesome if there was a quarterback that could be somewhere at the top of this trap, because then you would be able to get a bounty of draft picks to be able to trade this pick away. But you're not going to be able to do that if you're looking for a bounty of picks. So now the question, the next question is would you feel comfortable trading that pick if somebody were to want it and not getting the haul of picks like the forty Niners gave up last year to

move up to draft Trey Land. It's not a quarterback haul in return, you have to maybe change your standard alone. Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the compensation that you could receive if you were to have an offer to move out of that first overall pick. Now, should they adjust their expectations? I think you have to. I think you have to consider that is the phone even ringing? Maybe not well, I think the phone always rings, But is the compensation at the level of the expectation?

And and and that's why I think that if you're if you want to do a trade, you have to be willing to lower your expectation on what the value is that you're going to get for that first overall pick. And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody in the position that the Jaguars are should because there's a lot of guys at the top that are really good.

You have to consider lowering your expectations as far as what you would receive in a trade, if you could trade back a little bit, if you could do that, if that's a big if and deadline spur action we're still a week away. I mean, you could all of a sudden somebody did their deal what a week ahead of the draft last year. But that's for a four quarter quarterback. But at the time, nobody knew who that quarterback was gonna be. But could something like that happen?

I don't think it would happen now, but I mean it could. I mean, could Detroit fall in love with the possibility of having Hutchinson Michigan guy University of Michigan Detroit. I mean we did, Ashley and I did a segment today with Lions website folks um and yeah, they had him in the building the other week, and they've done all this, you know, additional programming around him and these things over the year, and they would love to have

him in Detroit. I think that that that's it's very interesting and it would have been awesome if there were a quarterback who was at the top air. Everybody was thinking that could be a really good prospect, and everybody was saying that we gotta get up and get that Jaguar's pick, and then you could have gotten a bevy of picks. I mean, in a perfect world, that would have been exactly what is happening right now. But it's it's not gonna happen. So now what So I think

it's gonna be interesting. No, and uh, you know most of the prognosticators now are some have Hutchinson, some have Trayvon Walker, Neil uh Ikey from North Carolina states right there near the top, as clear as mud right now, it really is. It's I think it says as this is gonna be as an intriguing of a draft because you know, everybody, everybody puts together kind of their expected picks, whether it be when I say a mock, they try. A mock is a lot of times what people are

trying to predict what the teams are gonna do. A lot of times people make a draft list that ranks the players based on that person's individual opinion the mocks. I think it's gonna there's gonna be a lot of mocks that are gonna be way off this year because there's so many different guys that are kind of clumped into that talent pool area of the first round. And I think a good question is I mean to take,

for example, Kyle Hamilton's safety from Notre Dame. I mean, most people have him rated like the second highest rated player, if not the highest rated player in the draft overall. That's correct. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna go in the top five JP, Right, So you don't know, no idea. So I think that's gonna make it a

really interesting draft. It's gonna be for me, and I've become I don't I'm not gonna say I'll become a junkie of the draft, but I've become a fan of the draft because I think it's very intriguing the whole process of how teams come to their opinion. It's Jaguars Happy Are by the way on tinton x l a M and Jaguars dot Com. JP Shatrick with Jeff Logovan, Brentson Buckner coming up, Jaguars defensive line coach. Were you not a fan of the draft before? When did that

change for you? I would say, I mean, well, I think ever since I started watching more of the prospects.

Then you become a little bit more, you know, because when your familiarity breeds kind of interest, right, I mean when you start watching the film of these guys, then you're like, okay, you kind of have an opinion of where their value should be, and then you kind of compare that to where these teams end up picking these guys, and so uh, twofold that that I think is intriguing for me because you know, I'll watch the top you know, fifty sixty guys and kind of have an idea of

where the first round might go. And then, uh, I think it's also interesting for me because after the Jaguars draft, you go and you watch all of these draft picks because I mean, look, I'm I can't watch prospects, which is what some of these personnel departments are doing. But but then you go back and you watch the film of the prospects, and then you kind of see what

some of these traits are. And so when you watch that film, you go, Okay, I can't wait until I can see them on the field because I want to see this trait that I saw that I really liked. I saw this trait that I think is a weakness and will that prohibit him from having success at this position but maybe fit better at this position. So it's just it makes it more intriguing for me in that fashion. JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one, at least

for two more days. Still working in the classroom. Strength and conditioning is key right now. Next week they're on the field Phase two three week window. Coaches are allowed on the field for the first time, but it's only individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No offense versus defense, no one on ones, no helmets, so you just do an individual running around. Yeah, I like I like the format of the off season. I think

it's great. I mean I wish, I really do wish that the coach and the player could have a little bit more interaction than what the current CBA rules are. I mean, I just think that it just doesn't make a lot of sense to where you have beautiful facilities in a beautiful field, and and parties willing to maybe do a little more work than what the opportunity has given to him, but yet you can't go. I mean, I don't have that mindset. You just can't interact six five days a year. I mean, you can go, but

you can't you. But I mean, by my point is JP, look, if I got a coach and or I want to go against an offensive lineman to work, just you can't do that. I can't. I can't do that. So it doesn't make sense. I mean, in the way people are are taught is that how do you get better? Right? So you you practice, you work on things. And that's an interesting point that you know, quarterbacks and receivers throw together all the time off site. Yeah, and then here

and what would you do? You can do that again, but I mean, but would you want to You're not protected, you're off side. You get an injury. On in theory, you can, yeah, and there you can. But if if you get an injury, you're on your own. And that's too little much, too much contact. You know, you're roll

the dice. For For example, let's say Trevor Lawrence takes three guys and you know, because they've got all this construction going on here, they say, hey, you know, we can't work out here anyway, so let's go to high school field. A. Yeah, we'll meet you there at four o'clock. You know, we were good. We can go out there and one of the guys gets hurt. Yeah, okay, non football injury. Uh, not on the team's time, not on the team's dime anymore. That's a that's a hard that's

a hard risk to take. It goes back to what we talked about about the decision of some of these guys to not participate in the team's off season program and and work out choose to work out on their own. It doesn't make any sense because of the liability issue. The Jaguars Lugs will host the two duval Draft Party presented by Baptist Health a week from to night at Daily's Place six o'clock the gates open. You will enjoy live draft analysis on stage appearances by head coach Doug

Peterson and sellect Jags players will be there. Also, we'll have our coverage on Jaguars dot Com on the big screen after the Jaguars first round pick. Also registered for tickets now Jaguars dot Com slash Official Draft watching you. I'm gonna watch you, JP. I'm gonna watch you Jaguars dot Com. I'm gonna check it out after the pick. I want to I want to hear all the analysis and information from you. It's a free website. Thank you for joining us, and thank you for joining us. Tonight

on Jaguars Happy our defensive line coach Brnson Buckner. After this, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you. Jaff Lagman back in just a few minutes. Brinson Buckner played twelve seasons as a defensive lineman with the Steelers, Bengals, forty Niners, and Panthers. He's been in the NFL and a since since it's coaching intern days with the Steelers.

In two he was the d line coach for three different teams, make it four now since jointing the Jaguars. He's in studio with us today. Brinson is good to see you, coach, my pleasure. Thank you for having Yeah, thanks for the time. Are you settled into Jacksonville yet away from the building, because most of your time, I'm sure it's been spent inside these hallways. Oh. I just got settled last week. Me and the family moved into the house. Uh, but then the furniture and all the

clothes came. So right now we're unpacking boxes. Allows, I'm working here, then I'm going home working. Yeah, working at that's double duty, that's for sure, which is tougher. Right now the unpacking at home with the family are here unpacking. I can do this football in my sleep, you know, Football is what I do. But unpacking and sorting, you know, I'm a man take it out the box, sitting on where I find it, but with a wife taking out the box, put it somewhere neat and nah. In football,

I take football any day. I love it. So we mentioned your playing career, right, You know that gets you attention when you're in front of a room for the first time. But how long does that last until you have to start proving you can help those players get better? Well know, football is the ultimate fraternity anyway, So when you walk in and you sat with those guys sat you get a sort of respect. But it's three things

guys always gonna want to know. Do you care about them away from the field, do you know what you're talking about? Can you help them get better? You know what I mean? And that's where it comes in. But I try to build a trust factor with him. I try to tell them I'm not gonna put any limitation on them or put any high expectations on them, because sometimes as a coach, players get asked to do some unrealistic things that you know because coaches say that you know,

do this, do this. No, I've played that game, so I know it's gonna be some hard downs. There's gonna be some good downs. So I let each guy set what their standard is gonna be, what what their skills can do, not let me help you get better at what you're good at. Brentson Buckner, whether Jaguar's defensive line coach. You go back to Mike Caldwell in Arizona. I believe was your first connection together in a coaching staff and fourteen, is that right? The first time? First time? And now

you're back with him now as the defensive coordinator. What do you remember about the first year. I think he was the inside linebacker coaching. He was inside linebacker coach, and me being a d line coach, So we worked well together. The communication, the knowledge in which he has. Mike has always been that sort of defensive coordinator in a in a position coach body because the way he looked at the game. But me and Mike had a history before that. You know, we played together with the

Carolina pant We played together. Mike married my next door neighbor. You're really connected. Who's really coach Walton's who was the defensive back coach here last year? That's his sister. We went we all went to high school together about that, so it's it's a crazy connection. I've been doing Mike for a while. I know, great guy, you know, just

his knowledge of football and his understanding. And Mike has a unique way of giving people to follow him, you know what I mean, because he's not a me me me guy. He always like, man, you got to put ownership on because I was a brand new coach coming in when we got together in Arizona, he was like, man, you got to give them ownership of it. You gotta

make them feel that they're part of it. You just don't want to be in front of them as a teacher or somebody's just looking down on what you want them to feel that you're all in the same group, working for the same goal, and you'll get the best out of your players. Some good teams in those Carolina days with you guys playing right Super Bowl run there at one point Brentson Buckner with US defensive line coach.

You worked under Bruce Arians of course in a couple of different stops Arizona, most notably in your early time working with Doug Peterson. Do you have any history with Doug? First of all, dude, those guys compare it all the way they may be approach this time of year. Well playing against Doug, you know, because Dog was a player when out when I was a player and now as a coach. But you know, him and Bruce so very similar.

You know that they have a plan, you know, and that's the one thing I like about both of them. They have a plan is written out. We're gonna follow it. These are the standards. We are men, you know, you follow the standard. We're all in this together now. Bruce Cone was a little bit more explicit couch words. You know, Doug is moored the PG version. So but it's good though. But they they're they're both great officers of mind guys. But they find a way to reach everybody on on

on the team. And the one thing that I take from both of them, Bruce was real big on everybody in the organization has ownership of this. We respect everybody from the guy that's cleaning the bathroom, the guy's cutting the grass. Everybody's a superstar. And that's the same thing Doug, did you know what I mean? Because it's sets a respect level throughout the building that nobody's looked frowned upon.

No one job is bigger than the next, because you want to create that family atmosphere, and I see the similarities. Both of them have Super Bowl reads as coaches, So hey, I'm here. That helps, right, You can show off at ring for sure. Brinson Buckner is with US Jaguars defensive line coach. What's your balance of time these days with trying to get the scheme going? It's phase one of the off season program. You can have meetings with players

free agency. The first waves of that. We're busy right on the defensive line especially, and then hey, guess what, there's the draft coming up in the defensive line names have been at the top of my drafts there. How do you balance your time right now? Oh, it's not balanced. It's all tilted to a football. There's no balancing right now. It's all football. You know. My day starts four thirty in the morning. I'm here. I'm here in the building and I get started when I when I took the job,

and I got here, I came in. I got in at seventh third that night. It was like, oh, here go, you're freezing. Let's jump on it, you know what I mean. So we started because the staff actually got together a little late. So it's really not a balance. We're we're a full steam ahead with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you know it started off with evaluating our guys that was here from last year, getting into them. Then you're going

into free agency. Then all of a sudden, all here come to draft and so you're trying to learn those guys. Then you go back into the none. Let's start trying to teach our guys the new system. So football is eating up twenty four hours of a day. Football is getting at least eight ten eight ten right now, And I'm trying to get my wife to here and there he with his unpacking, but she understands right now that football is the main part right now, just trying to

get everything together. So when we hit the ground running, we're at full speed. When you contribute to the draft conversation, is that still ongoing now? Is your input part of that done? Like? How do how do assistant coaches contribute to that problem? I think we we contribute all the way through because Trent Trending, those guys do a good job all year looking at guys, trying to get this get the ingredients out there for the head coached, office

of coordinator coordinator. Who are the shelves trying to get the ingredients and then we come in at suitshelfs is like, Hey, that ingredient takes a little bit better than that one. It'll be a lot a little more presentable if we have that. And it goes all the way through because things changes. No, no guys get hurt. You you might sign a free agent that might take some off, or somebody might pop up that you seems like, oh, I could see him in the Jacksonville Jaguar uniform helping us.

So up until that peak is made, we're always open with knowledge because you got to be ready when Trent called you in there, you know the giving what he wants. Did you work in a restaurant at some point? Are you just eating it? I just eat that. Many of you can tell eat that many of them. I wasn't saying that with US Jaguars Defensive Line Coaches, Jaguars Happy Hour ont xl A M and Jaguars dot Com, j P Shattered with you, Jeff Lagman back shortly, Brentson Buckner

with us, Now are you still big man dancing? By the way, we found the video on YouTube the other day and um there was a promo on like NFL network in the mid two thousand's. I guess when the network started. You just I think finished playing towards the end of your career, and there you go dancing across the stage. Oh yeah, I still dance. That's all great d lineman, our skillful dancers, you know what I mean.

That's a talent. You got to have to be a good defensive line, you know, bad slow feet, don't eat you know what I mean. You got you gotta stay up on your feet. Well, I'm always doing. I got three younger kids, so there's always some kind of TikTok dance going on in the house. And you know, growing up a lot, I dance a lot party around. You know, I'm not the average big guy, you know. I mean I actually I think I sort of grew into this

bottom like a dB A wide receiver. They just found found out he liked eating a lot too, and that took over. So it short to change my destiny, you know, going down the line. But yes, I danced every now and then. We're not gonna ask for it now, Well, we'll wait until the practice field and all that. I'm sure we'll we'll see it that come out. So let's get to your group now that you have inherited, you said, the first thing you do is look at free agents.

Then you're popping in, hey, what do you have here on the team. At what point when you're up for a job or you know you might be up for a job, and then you land the job, do you get into the tape of what you have and and what did you inherit on the defensive line? Here are you always you know, before taking a job or if your name is mentioned in their job, Oh, let's let's go see what was in the cupboard? You know what

I mean? And you know, going and looking and actually this year had some insight because we actually played Jacksonville, you know, being in Arizona, and you see the guys. Royal Robinson Harris a guy that I've admired since he was in Chicago, you know, a guy who was an outside linebacker defense and finally grew into his body now becoming a tior defensive alignment. Davon was a guy at Ohio State that I did plenty of background checks on and talking to him in interviewing when he came out.

Malcolm Brown has been a player since he's been in this league. You know, playing nose guard disrupted three technique. Um I've had um. I had him as Oakland as a second second guy, as a second year player, and you know, Art and has really developed, you know over time. Now he's coming into being that player that a lot of people thought he was gonna be coming out of L s U. And he's matured a lot. And you know,

the violence and the smartest which she's played. And then you know, you start throwing in the free agents and let this go to j J to Foley. You know, I went to his pro day, you know, doing doing COVID and worked him out. So I got a lot of knowledge being around these guys. And what I found out, you got a good group, got a good group of guys, you know. And I told him from day one it's no magic trick to being successful. And it's not an easy procedure. You know, we got to come in first

of all. You gotta you gotta identify and claim what you did wrong. You gotta you got to own it. You got to own it. Now let's go correct it. Because all the time as a D line, you want to be the foundation. And I used this analogy all the time. People you drive I see beautiful homes. Everybody want to talk about the decorations with the paint light the roof. Don't nobody remember the guys out there there was cultivating the ground, landing the foundation, making sure it

was thirdy enough to build this house. And that's what the defensive line is. And what we gotta do is eliminate the cracks and get rid of all the bad pieces. So when we laid his foundation, Mike is gonna be able to build a defense that can stand the test of time because the defensive line has to be the sturdy foundation. Brentson Buckner with a check guars defensive line coach. A couple more minutes with you here we mentioned Art and Key, one of those free agent pickups, but fully

fund a Kasi. There's a guy that came in here, came in the league as a sixth round pick, didn't play his rookie season, worked his way up at the end of his time in New York as a defensive captain, and gets that big free agent deal. It seems like everybody's fired up about what he can bring to this organization and and just hearing him talk the other week, I mean it fits right in with the rest of those good guys in that room. Yes, and fully is a great guy. Been admiring him for a while, you know.

And I'd like to tell fans and people don't get caught up in the draft. Everybody that gets a helm and as a professional football player, everybody can't go number one. But when you get in there and you see a guy, he gets in and he grinds and he works, and the one thing he's gonna have with him when he comes in, it's a chip on his shoulder. Because we all are competitors and we all feel that we should go higher than what we really do. So it drives you.

And that's the one thing he did. He built himself up with the Jets. You saw him area get better and better and better. He's a physical guy. He's a hard hat type of guy. All the great players are not the flashy guys that you see on ESPN and you see those guys, it's somebody else that's doing the hard work. And that's where he brings. He brings a he brings a grown man mentality. As as I like to say, he is his knees on his knees and it's yes, It's always yes. It's you know, it's straightforward.

But it's good in that in that room because you can have the guys that are a little light here and keep it light. But you also got to have the one guy when it's time to go to work. It's time to go to work. But you know, he's been great. He's super smart, young man, like very ship, very inquisitive. Most people signed big contracts and they come in and they got all the answers. No, he steady, he steadies challenges a coach, I kind of get better. You know, what do we need to what I need

to work on? Coach, Hey, these are some things I saw in my game last year. And as a coach, that's what you want. You know, a guy coming there is begging for knowledge because they all got skilled. Knowledge

is what they seek. But then you get guys who really seek it and come for you know, you can't help, but ready get your hands on those guys, right And I'm not gonna ask you about, you know, individual prospects, that's not fair, but I'm curious about the process of evaluating those prospects when yeah, there's a combine you're looking at tape from the last couple of years, all that and then they come in for visits. We've seen the

name reporter that have allegedly come through here. So what do you want to find out in that day that they're in the building that you are you just filling in holes in the evaluation with them? Do you just want to sit them down? How much time do you get with some of these guys when they come in? What do you want to know? Personal? I want to

feel out if I like you or not. I don't want to coach somebody I don't like and I don't want to be around because you know, we spend so much time together, so you got to have that relationship type of guy. I don't want no jerks. I don't want to sit there and coach nobody that he don't like me, I don't like him. We don't have nothing coming. So really, when the guy comes and sit with me, I pretty much know what you can do as a football player. I talked to you and see how you respond.

You know, do you have tough skin? Do you laugh? What you like to do it? You got a family? What drives you? Because me as a coach, I got to know all those variables before I coach you. It's not just you walking here. I coach you and you go home. I gotta know if you if something wrong

with you, something happening at home. I got the baby to know that, and I gotta I gotta be sensitive to that because I tell these guys all the time when when you sit in that room as a final jat war, I've entrusted everybody in this organization with their job. I gave it to you because I told Doug and I told Trent, this guy can help us win. Same thing. You got to entrust your family to me that I can give you everything you need to take care of your family. And so I want to see those guys

who are gonna be ready to reciprocate that. You know, and some guys coming here be great talent. But I don't really want to coach this guy because he's gonna be a me guy. You know, in my room, it's gonna be us. You know, on this team is gonna be us. And so when you sit down, when you get that, then when you go back to Doug and Trent, hey, he's a Jaguar, he's an US guy. It's all about what can he do for the team. He wants to be a star in his role. He don't have to

be the main attraction. Like I tell the guys in the room, Tito Jackson never let us on, but he got very Grammy that Michael got when it was Jackson five, he got very He got everyone. So sometimes you have to be the background single. You're gonna get all the awards. You might not get the hold the mic, but you get all the benefits and those the guys that you really want. When you're a team, it's about the it's about the team. Yes, there were one, two, three, four,

five and the Jackson live last to checks right. Yes, yes, that's a it's a team effort. How exciting? Now next week final thought here, next week's phase two and you're on the field with the guy. There's no helmets. It's not real football. Yeah, but it's as close as we've better a long time. How excited are you to actually get out on the grass with this team? Um, I'm super excited. Because knowledge is not acknowledge until the supply.

So we're in the we're in the room. I can tell you about the technique, I can show you film, but not let me go see you do it. That's another evaluation step. That's another way to sit there getting it on film, making sure you know everything is right. Well, let's correct your step. So but that's football. Football is played in the grass. It's on the grasses. You out there, you're getting the field back into it and that's when

the excitement comes. And that's another valued process, evaluation process. With me, I won't see the guys that look at it as I'm not obligated to be here. This is an opportunity for me to get better every day. That's when you know you got a good bunch when they come here and they're they're ready to go to work. And what my job is and what I pride myself and I want to make it fun because I want you to baby to do something Thursday that you couldn't

do on Wednesday. So you look forward to going out there and getting better than before you knew it. You can start to see what's coming on the horizon because you're putting in all the work. Coach, is great to see you, thanksfuly inside you might have I think you auditioned well. I think you're gonna have a regular segment on some of these shows. I thank you very much. I love man, I'm ha to be a jag war man.

I told the guys before, I've never won as a visited player on the other sideline, so I know what Duval County is about when these jack Ars a rocket and rolling. So that's what we look look forward to doing. Former Steeler Actually with the Steelers, you you played pretty well a couple of games against the Jacks, but that's all. I lost the first one ever down here. Hurt everybody. You know. It was hard coming out here playing this Jaguars longer than years though, But it's great now I'm

on this side, so let's get it going. It's coming soon. The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new look in twenty To join us at the bank this season, lock in your seats at Jaguars dot Com, slash tickets or called nine oh four six three three two thousand. Jeff Loghman back in a moment, Seth Galita a Pro Football focus coming up shortly and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

Hour on a Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Laghman back with us now Brentson Buckner, the Jaguars defensive line coach. Yes, I told him at the end, I think you passed the audition. We're looking forward to interviewing him a lot now. He's fun. He's a lot of fun. And uh I got kind of hold against him a little bit that he's a Clemson guy. Oh yeah, you know Clemson used to beat up my Virginia Cavaliers quite often while after Yeah, I was gonna say that that

wasn't just when you were there. Yeah, but he's uh, you go back just real quick. People remember him probably, and he mentioned his days with his Steelers. I think the most dominant period that he had as a player was one he was in Carolina when he played alongside Julius Peppers and I think it was Rucker and then uh, I pulled it up Chris Jenkins. I mean those four guys that were in Carolina and that was when Carolina was really good and they went to the Super Bowl

and had dom Capers. I mean they were they were bawling, and so Buckner was a part of that defensive line that was so good about that. So his final thought there, hey, you know, never played well in Jacksonville It's it's true.

Like he he only was part of one winning team in one, two, three, four, five trips to Jacksonville, losses with the Steelers in five, lost with the Steelers at ninety six, with Cincinnati in nineties seven here we dominated Cincinnati to lost with San Francisco at ninety nine here for one to three, and then Carolina beat the Jagson oh three here in Jacksonville. So there you go. Yeah, he did have a whole lot of success. That's good. Yeah,

that's why it's supposed to be home field advantage. You're supposed to have that here, right, I mean, that's the way it's supposed to be. Yes, And I'm looking forward to see his interaction with this group of the days. Need to get back for sure. Hey, it's one week till the NFL Draft logs. Pro Football Focus recently launched a special podcast here. He's entitled Hunch. Guess who it's

about um Aidan Hutches. Yes, correct, It's about his childhood, the early years at Michigan, and the incredible one season he had as a Heisman finalist. Seth Galina is senior football analysts with Pro Football Focus. He's been locked into the draft and with a week to go, he joins us on the program. Right now, Hey, Seth, it's nice to talk to you. Thanks for the time today and anytime. I'm kind of wearing a I don't know what color

I'm wearing. I think it's kind of close to teal, So I think I'm, um, you know, trying to lock in here with the Jaguars stuff. Well, we appreciate that. Um, you know, the Jaguars for a second straight year of the number one overall pick. Everybody's watching the Jaguars right now to see what happens. Because as we were talking about Lots and I earlier, it's kind of clear as mud right now, there's all these different monks with different names. What's your feeling right now? I mean, I still think

Hutchison is going to be the pick. I do think where there's smoke, there's fire in regards to Travon Walker potentially being the pick. I really, I mean, like I like I said, I do think it's gonna be Hutchinson. I don't think you can really go wrong with this pick in the sense that there's I don't know, I want to say six to seven players who this season could be a number one overall pick. So then you just got to figure out, Okay, what position do we

feel like we need? Um a player at the most, it seems for the Jaguars to be at edge because you're hearing about Hutchinson and obviously you're hearing about Sponta Walker play in the same position you ever take. So I think that's where they go. But I don't think you can go wrong. Um, at the end of the day, you've got to hope you pick the right one. But in terms of the process and everything, you know, there's

you have your quarter back already. UM. If honestly, if you want to go safety, you want to go corner, I think that would be fine too, but I'll tackle for sure. They could go UM, but obviously it seems like Hutchinson is the pick. So if you if you look at these tackles that are in the in the draft and mainly at the top of the draft, and it seems to be two of them, which one do you like the best? Do you like the one from North Carolina State or the one from Alabama. I like

the one from Mississippi State the best. Yeah, I think there's I think I would put all three of them in that kind of tier one group of tackles that to me, they're all top ten picks. And so just because I like Charles Cross the best doesn't mean it

doesn't mean anything. Really, I think you have to live in a world where let's say the Jaguars do take an edge player at at at one, wherever you are picking after that, you're just you're just saying, hey, let me get one of those guys, and they're all do

something a little different. Obviously with with Charles Cross, um, I thought he was the best tackle in Now we have issues in twenty nine and twenty You can play those off when you look when you look at the history of him there at Missisipy State, you can play them off a bit coaching change and all that stuff. With a Quandu and Neil you have a kind of

a bigger sample size of really good play. Um. But I thought, you know, a Cross was a Cross was incredible in one I think once they figured out what was going on there, playing a different system than he thought he was going to be playing in his career in Mississippi State as they went to Mike Leech from Joe moorehead so I thought he was he was. I really thought he was amazing in one. But the other two are great too. Like I said, top all three

of them are top ten players. Be happy whichever whichever one you get. I think one of the most interesting prospects far as where he will go in the draft, is the safety from Notre Dame South Hamilton. He seems to have kind of a or seems to be kind of a little bit of a cross between the safety and a linebacker. He's got the size or at least the height, it seems like to be like a linebacker. He's got very good ball skills. Many people have him

rated as the best prospect in the draft. But when I look at the forty yard dash time, the speed watching his film, I don't see it. Uh what do you think of him? And where do you think he'll go? Yeah, I wonder if he's you know, with that body time. Now, I will say that his flying twenty I just saw tweet about this day actually, so it kind of eased my concerns a bit. Where his his flying twenties of the last twenty yards of his forty were very good.

So maybe it's an acceleration thing, which obviously you know you're a safety, you want to have great acceleration. But clearly something is is needs to be worked on in in terms of his start, but he is. I think he is still a fast player, and you can kind of see them in film. What I like about Hamilton's it really is the modern safety, right He's not locked into being either a deep stay key or in the box safety or a man coverage safety or something like that. Right,

I think he can do a lot of stuff. I thought what they did at Notre Dame with him, you know, Clark Lee was the defensive coordinator one year and the Marcus Streaman the next year, I thought, just like moving

him around, you know, playing week safety. I think that's going to be a very interesting position going forward in the NFL, schematically being able to double weak side receivers, being able to come down to the box when you need to, being able to play in the deep center field when you have to, but again not locked into a certain role, just being versatile enough to do that. And I think another guy like that who honestly might fall. I don't think you should fall in the second round.

But Lewis scene from Georgia's another player who has that versatility. You really have two really good safeties in this in this draft class. Sascalina from Pro Football Focus give him a follow at PFF Underscore SETH. Couple thoughts with you here before we let you go here. You know, Jaguars have the thirty third overall pick. Too, um, they're still kind of looking, feels like for that deep threat receiver.

First off, it feels like it's a pretty deep wide receiver class at least from what you see and read. Maybe not at number one overall, but thirty three that could be in play. Well the Jacks, could they find another interior offensive lineman somewhere at that point to like a lender bomb? Does he fall that far? That's two big questions in one. Let's start with wide receiver. What's what do you make over all of this class and

could that be in play at thirty three? Yeah, I think wide receiver is one of these position groups that not just this year, and we've seen in the past few years, and honestly, we're gonna see the next ten years or so where every class of wide receivers coming out is going to be a very good class, just because this is how football is played now. High school

kids are in past heavy offenses. They're going to play seven on seven in the springtime, they're getting all these reps, and then obviously they're going to college, and you know, college offenses are also um, you know, getting past heavier as we go on. So you're going to just have a lot of receivers and it seems like we're we continue to find really good ones in that twenty to pick five type of range. So in this one, you know, there's obviously you know, you're thinking, you know, down the

field vertical threats. Jamison Williams is the top probably the top guy in this class. Obviously we're not thinking about the Jaguars getting him. He should go on the team somewhere. Someone like Christian Watson from North Dakota State, another flyer um there could be available at thirty three, and the sky More from Western Mission could be available at thirty three, another speed receiver downfield. I think the interesting with the receiver class this year is when does the first receiver

get taken. I see them all as guys who in that Tier one group who would be somewhere in the teens, but the team feels like they need a guy early, and I mean I've seen this before, Garrett Wilson in the wide receiver from Ohiou State to the Jets at four, all of a sudden, that might start the run. And now if you're the Jaguars at thirty three saying hey, we need a receiver, um, some of the guys you

might like might be already gone seeth. Every year, it seems like the first round has some type of surprise, whether it be a surprise from a team trading up, or a player being selected, or even possibly a player that was really undervalued who ended up being maybe one of the best players in the draft in the first round. Do you see any surprises on the horizon? I mean, I know there's a player that I really like, um,

the defensive end from Penn State, Arnold Evidketty. I think his there's I've seen such a wide range in terms of, you know, ranking on a big board, even through mock drafts. I truly believe it's a top fifteen overall type of player, and it is a really good edge rusher class as well. So the second to me he falls past even twenty, you're looking at a guy who me is great value and it's honestly going to be a starter. Look, who knows, but I feel like he's going to be a starter

right away. So that would be my surprise. UM, either a surprise that he goes as high as I think you should go. UM if another if you know an NFL team feel the same way, or this is a surprise where he goes in the late first or second round and then he's putting up sacks from day one whatever team he goes for. Well, you're on the record now, we're gonna hold you to that, Seth. Come Draft night

a week from now. What do you have coming up in the next week getting ready for the drafte Yeah, we have obviously you guys talked about it the hutch podcast. You can go on PF or go on YouTube and find that and listen to the Future Jaguar I I would assume, and Hutchinson talked about his life and yeah, I'm just where. We have our draft show Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, all day draft recap show Sunday. So it's all draft, all the time with PFF right now

and no doubt about it. Thanks for taking some time out at PFF Underscore Seth. Seth Galina from Pro Football focus. We'll talk to you soon. Seth, see you guys. We're back in just a moment. Blogs. We're gonna go around the NFL and we'll like recap some of the things we just heard from Seth there about the Jaguars. I think it's an interesting guy to talk with and p f F is ah, it's a very different way of evaluating things sometimes because they use a lot of metrics.

They don't do you even know what that is? Well, I've got three minutes to find out during this metrics you know, I was told there would be no math. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back at Jaguars Happy Hour. If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com or the Jaguars social channels lives. Those are Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. You're looking live at the Football Performance Center outside t i a A bank field. Concrete blocks are going up, and I mean multiple stories

worth of concrete blocks. They keep expanding the footprint of concrete being poured and things are happy, which is cool and it's uh, it's it's very cool. Hey. By the way, you mentioned YouTube, Yes, did you see the Hunt? The Hunt? Yes, absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. The next edition. I'm just a little while away, I think, But yeah, you can check out

the first two episodes of The Hunt. But the incredible behind the scenes access granted by the football department and getting ready for the combine and then free agency and everything around, it's access access like that. I you know, I think for for the longest period of time, the NFL teams always thought that it was just you know, I can't let anybody in as you know, you know, they'll figure out what we're doing. I mean, come on,

it's not rocket science, it's football. And then I think the access it just it just makes fans even more interested in the great sport. You don't show the draft board or anything, and it'd be nice. I mean what, I don't even want to know. I'd love to see everybody's draft board after the fact. Would be kind of fun, right,

Hey see who was ranked? Right? What what I mean telling honestly, wouldn't it be cool if you had if if the NFL required every team to turn in their draft board before the draft, and you had all the teams draft boards, you know, and not not from the standpoint of trying to tell somebody what somebody's gonna pick, but just out of curiosity about how different people are valued. Well, you know what would happen. Then you would send the fake board in and the real board would be hidden

behind some curtain. That's what would happen. Maybe, but I mean it would be it would be very interesting to compare just the different assigned values that they have for different players. I mean, because I mean, and it has to be extremely very right. I mean that's human beings are different. They think different. By the way, this afternoon, Maurice Jones Drew put out his second mock draft. Who do you have a Number? One? Trayvon Trayvon Walker? Still

he's sticking with it, sticking with Walker. I just I think he's a really good player. He's got great closing speed, he's strong, he's got super strong hands, he's very raw as a pass rusher, and he's got positional flexibility. I think he's a very good player. But the production, you know, year after year after year, I don't know if it's been there, but I can tell you this, He's gonna be a really good football player, really good football player.

And I think he's more of a of a natural three four end and then once they get to four down. He can play inside, he can play outside, he can do either one. Let's go around the National Football League. Only a couple of nuggets today. The NFL schedule announcement date has been announced. A lot of announcing going on, and yeah, because they're gonna, you know, put it over a few different days. May fourth, they will announce the international games, of course, including the Jaguars at Wimbley, and

then May twelfth, the full schedule released. There are a couple other dates where the first game of the year's announced and then select games. So it's a long drawn out announcements. It creates news. I mean that's yes, it does. The The NFL off season has become the NFL out of season and the information still comes flow. And that's that's what makes the NFL great is free agency and the draft and the schedule announcement. It makes it makes

it very interesting all year. Deebo Samuel requesting a trade from the forty niners. Show me the money, would you, uh what would you give up? I mean, would you draft pickwise? Yeah? Or would you even want to? Uh? Well, I mean he's a great player and he's got great flexibility. I would love to have him. What's what's the cost? Think the Niner is gonna give him up? Come on, No, they don't want to give him up. But what's the cost your left arm? No, I'm not giving up my

left arms. Gonna need it. Yeah, loves great show, Seth Galina Pro Football Focus. Thanks for his time and I can't wait to see you on Jaguars dot Com next stor yeah and Jaguars Radio. Oh yeah, we'll do the show. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that. It'll be what sick to seven to midnight seven seven to midnight, Me and Frank and lots of other guests, and you will be a part of those guests. Joe Fortunado, Brent rab

Brentson Buckner, Joe Fortunado, I'm JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logerman. We'll see you next time.