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day outside. I hope you're doing well. Uh, with everything going on still, we're all trying to stay at home as best we can, including this radio program. Here's what we're getting to today, and we've got a busy show ahead. John Osier week capping the Dave called Well, Doug Marrone press conference, the pre draft quote unquote luncheon. If you will us today over zoom, we'll hear a couple of bites from those guys and see what John Osier has taken away from that. You can read about that on

the Jaguars website currently. Prior of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor joins us. We caught up earlier this week. You'll see the full video tomorrow on the team website, but you'll hear a little bit from Freddy t today about where the Jags stand and some maybe what they could do in the draft. We'll hear from NFL network analysts Charles Davis and Charlie Castlely and get their thoughts in some of the position groups in the draft this year.

And Jack's analyst Jeff Lockman wraps up the show with us a little bit later today. Dave called Well and Doug marrone on a conference call today. Dave called Well, with twelve draft picks this year, to work with picks, very it's huge, man, And you know this is the most draft capital we had here and and we need to hit on all twelve. And that's our and that's our philosophy and in our processes that we want to

make every one of them count. And if if we could use one of those to go maybe trade up and get a guy that that we want in the select round, we'll do that too. And and you never know, we may we may acquire some more throughout the draft. Well here from head coach Doug Marone coming up. We go to the phone line now and welcome and Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osier, who was on that call today as well. John, Good afternoon, How are you good?

How are we Well? We're here, which is good and uh we we've had a lot of Jaguars news today, which is also good. When when the head coach and the general manager get on a pre draft conference call, video chat, whatever you want to call it, that's always news. Now. I don't know if Dave really said anything there. He said he has twelve picks. They couldn't move. They could not There was anything definitive there, but that's kind of

how it works these days leading up to a draft. Well, you never expect any breaking news from the pre draft call or the luncheon. Did you get your pizza? By the way, j p PR staff s pizzas to everybody on the call, including John and I apparently, yeah, that made it official. So um, I don't think anybody expected Dave to say, hey, we're trading up. I mean not, what do you say going into the draft. It was interesting.

He was asked late in the show by Stamp or a late in the conference by stam Qvars, how many guys do you have that you absolutely wouldn't trade to pick four? Which you know, I means how many guys like Josh Allen or Jalen Ramsey deal love in this thing? And he said four, which I think is you know you would think and I'm putting words in his mouth, but you know, Brown Simmons, a Kuda, uh, guys like that probably in that range, maybe a quarterback who knows uh.

I thought it was most interesting about what Dave said was the tone of his response when he was asked how key is this and he was asking the nature of the rebuild. Dave doesn't use the word rebuild at this thing, but he said it's huge. They've got twelve pick they need to hit on him. You're not gonna hit on all twelve. But it was clear I thought in days answer j P that he understands how important it is they have traded away veteran to get twelve picked.

Here you're putting a lot of cards on the table with his draft, and he understands the importance of it. So if if twelve guys show up here and then we've talked about this before that a lot of those guys, if not all of them, you feel like would make the team because of the roster or the salary cap situation or all that. That's a lot of youth running around the field compared to some veteran players or here before.

So that's a risky proposition. Well, it is, and you know it's it's gonna put a huge emphasis on leadership from young guys like Josh Allen, John Taylor Gardner Minshew, you're turning the keys over to the franchise to a young bunch, and you know that's scary. It didn't necessarily work out great when they did that in thirteen and fourteen, but I don't think there was the talent base back

then that there's gonna be with this bunch. Um. It's been interesting every time Doug talked about this team, Doug Morone, and he did again today. He's talked about being excited about this group for a number of reasons. He talked about the culture. He talked about having a bunch of guys that you're not dealing with the distractions of recent years. You know clearly they're taking the approach this is gonna be a young team, a fun team, a talented team

that probably didn't have a whole lot of expectations. Uh, but it's gonna be a case of, hey, let's go out, let's not worry about off field stuff. Let's not worry maybe about personal things, individual things. Let's go have fun playing football. Uh. That's clearly Doug approach. And I guess we'll see if that works. Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Os, you're joining us on the phone. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon. Glad you're along

with us today. Let's hear from head coach Doug Maron. Now. A big topic of conversation and starting to get a little rumbling in some of these mock drafts is the quarterback position. And he was asked today head coach Doug Maron was what his position is on Gardner? Minshew, and do they want to back it up? We evaluate everyone in so we evaluated, you know, the quarterback position, just like we evaluated to Van running back radition, everything you know.

And I think a lot of times you look out there and you know, right now you know this this question. I hope you already gets tripe right now. If we want to play garden menshos our guy, and I'm excited about that. But do I want competition for him? Absolutely? You want competition for everyone, though you know, I don't want to make it where you know, I'm answering this question and Maron is not a confident or Maroon wants competition. I want, you know, just for the quarterback. I want

competition for everyone. The one thing about Gardner that you know, he has shown some good things last year. You know we did win obviously a six games with him. Uh, he's the guy right now is working his ass off still again, you know how we're working on getting a better football team. Like Dave said, if we bring someone in or you know, the other thing is they bring some people in around that can help that position at quarterback. Interesting stuff there from the head coach and in the

same kind of idea. It's not like he's gonna show you everything, but they do like what he brought to the table last year. They like his work ethic this offseason, and then time will tell what happens. If there's a you know, if there's somebody that shows up in on draft night that you have to go get, you have to go get him. Well, I think a lot of

fans don't necesarily want to hear this. But you know, Menshu is not the guy yet, meaning capital T, capital G. And he showed enough to give you to make you hope that he is. He showed enough things to make you think that maybe he is. But you know, the franchise right now is not ready to on April six, give him the keys to the car and say, hey, let's go. Uh. I think there is a situation where they still he's a young player. And even if they do feel that way, which maybe they do, they don't

want to publicly say it yet. They don't want to tell Gardener, hey you're the man. Uh No, let's keep working, Let's keep taking the approach if he's got to earn it. And I think most importantly right now, JP, don't tip your hand going into the draft. Hey, there's no way

we're not taking a quarterback at number nine. You know, because if you're sitting there at number nine and there's a quarterback on the table and and teams want to trade up for him, you want to make sure that teams know that you're not necessarily not gonna take one if you will. So I think there's a lot of reasons for not saying that yet. Main I think that they don't want to necessarily, they want to make Gardners

still earn what they hope he can earn. John Ozan with US Jaguars dot Com Senior writer, nothing new on the Unique and got Way front. That was going to be a question that you knew was coming from somebody, and Dave Caldwell has pretty much said all he's gonna say about until something else happens. It feels like, well, they've taken the approach. Unique is going to say what he's gonna say on Twitter, and I think that's his right. Uh,

they understand that he's unhappy. They understand that he's gonna stay thaying. The organization from the time last season ended and really from the start of all this and said, hey, we want him, we wanted to play for us. But they're not going to get into announcing their feelings about the whole situation on Twitter. They're not going to respond to what he said. Uh, you know, that's really a spot where the player says what he's gonna say. I

wasn't surprised Dave took that approach. I think they'd still like to have him next year. Uh, and if they get something to blows them out of the water, they would trade them. But I don't think that that's there. Uh. I don't think that that's their want. And they're certainly not gonna come out to day and say we're cutting ties.

That's not the way they feel. John. I know you've you've covered this over and over again after the press conference today, and you've got both your stories available now on Jaguars dot com. And what do you got up tomorrow? What's coming up the next day or two from you? Wouldn't you like to know? Jake Noyes, Actually, I'm not gonna tip my hand either. No tomorrow. It kind of parsed through a lot of what Doug said about the

off season program. I think it's interesting how the virtual off season programs a lot of people know, much like the draft is virtual, it's gonna be virtual for the players. It's an important time, meaning Jay Gruden's got to get his offense to these guys and how they're going to go about doing that. I think the big thing to know about the off season program the communication between coordinator

and quarterback. It's really going to be the key, and I can't imagine that there's not gonna be a lot of conversation between those two elements, but overall they're gonna get the information. They're gonna get the guys in the cloud. It's gonna be up to players to consume that information and be ready for when they come back. So we'll talk about that a little bit and the stories on Jaguars dot Com. Looking forward to that. Always look forward

to chatting with you. And we got draft coverage next week. How about that. About this time next week will be uh three or four hours away from the start of the NFL Draft, and that week will go by quickly. John, good to talk to you. Always appreciate your all right, buddy, you stay safe every videose too. Thanks da. Enjoy your pizza by the way, uh John John Oser, jointing us jack Coars dot Com Senior writer. We've got plenty ahead on this program. We're back in a moment. We'll hear

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and operating under normal hours. Pick up a fresh they don't order some or a sandwich from Daily's Dash today and, as Tony Vaselli says, get that Dash sauce. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, Busy Show. Our thanks to John Ozer, Jaguars dot com senior writer for joining us. The entire Dave Calledwell Doug Marone video conference is available on the team website as well. You'll catch John's riding there as well. It's now time to catch up with Pride of the

Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. He's our co host on Jaguars postgame radio as well. Always good to catch up with Freddy t down in South Florida. They're hanging at the house he and the his why life and all the kids running around. I think there's seven people in the house. So food has been a little bit of an issue with growing children eating all the food and not keeping notes. They're trying to keep everything straight down there. But all well so far. In the Fred Taylor household

down South. We talked about plenty of things here, including what the Jaguars have done in this offseason and what they could be doing a week from right now. Mr Taylor, how you holding up, sir? I'm good man, I'm good. Just um, just trying to stay positive, you know, trying to stay patient. Unlike everybody you see on social media, everybody's started, you know, frantic, and they're panicking in their

own right. You know, every everybody's talking about not staying at light all right, you know, frustrated by being at home. You know, I think this is a time, you know, you gotta you know, just a dig deep, you know, discover something new about yourself and just adapt the best that you can. And I think more importantly, uh, just

do your part. You know. It's Uh, we talked about the country, you know, then you talk about community, but yourself, as the individual, you're the foundation to that all I think, Uh, me personally, I've just been trying to help where I can't help. But I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm trying to keep Eyeland things. You know. Uh, it's bad enough as it is. I don't always jump into you know, sport.

I started run away from everything. But now give me a little bit more of an opportunity to try to dig in a little bit and keep my eye open on things that's going on. Fred, let's talk a little football. It's been a little bit since we've been able to catch up with you, and there's been a lot that's happened for the Jaguars over this off season. Some big games have moved on in Calis Campbell traded away to Baltimore. You got a fifth round pick for him, a j

boy going to Denver. Nick Foles, for goodness sakes, is with the Chicago Airs now or the fourth round pick. That's a lot of moving parts that they had to do, some of these things because they were up against and in fact over the salary cap at the start of the year, right. I mean it was necessary moves, you know, as a fan, as a Jaguar lifer, as a fan. Uh, you know, I think the one that surprised me the

most was the Klais move. Uh. Just a big guy leader, you know, someone who's gonna be much needed in that locker room. So we have to you know, another question alongside who is the draft picks you're gonna be is who's going to be the leader? You know, who are the young guys that are either already there or coming in. You know, who are they gonna follow? Who are they

gonna look up to? I've seen somewhere where Leonard, you know, he's been sort of uh saying, well, man, I'm not gonna have any more teammates left on his social media, But I really firmly believe that this is an opportunity for Leonard to solidify himself, you know, as a leader. Go ahead and accept the role. Man. You know you've been there as Ah's fourth year guy coming up, so I think this is the time to accept that role

and try to find something positive in it all. But a lot of moves made necessary moves for salary cap but it's gonna be tough to replace some of those guys, namely Calais. You know, boy he he he didn't quite necessarily have that same you know, smoking fire behind him as he did when he first arrived. But cornerback position, I think that's the need too, but more importantly that defensive You're not gonna win any games if you can't

stop anybody or getting pressure on anyone. So replace the Calais. I think that probably should be, in my opinion, one of the more important or one of the big priorities in the draft. Bred won't get to your thoughts on the draft a little deeper here coming up in a minute, but we mentioned there obviously Nick Foles on, so that means Gardner, Minshew and Josh Jobs are in the quarterback

room currently. So it seems like it's Gardner Minshew's job at least for now to putting what happens in the draft. Maybe Dave Caldwell pulls a fast food and sneaks a quarterback in early. You never know, right, but it seems like Gardner is the guy that was a good rookie year for him. Yeah. No, it was really good rookie year. And uh, you know, he and they have to they have to compete. I think it would be nice if

they could somehow either find another veteran guy. It would be tough at this point, but someone else to come in, you know, sort of help bring Gardener along even more. Um. I thought Folds did a great job last year of taking him under his wing in spite of, you know, all the other things that were going on. But it's always good to have a better guy in there that's been through that scene. It knows how to prepare, can help teach Gardener because he's still raw. You know, he

had a solid rookie campaign, but he's still raw. What we say, fourteen games he started thirteen a nine one h QBR quarterback rating, twenty one touchdowns to six I and t s ards passing. That's all good that's all good, but you know, the errand throws the other opportunities he had where you know, he didn't necessarily have to flush the pocket, you know, but he was seeing things and then he started, you know, trying to attempt to menshu magic and get creative, and you know that possibly could

be in him naturally. But I think that he needs to come down a bit, you know, and become that guy who could actually, um, you know, just this step up and be a little bit more dependable. So but you never know, you never know what they're gonna bring in, who they're gonna bring in, if Dave Paul will Is gonna draft another guy, but right now Gardner is the guy. Uh,

everything's on his plate right now. Fred Taylor was a spread of the Jaguars running back for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and her co host on Jaguars postcame part of that argument. If Gardner is a guy, get him some more weapons to see if he's really the guy to help him out fully. Right, they have d J. Charcoo into the Pro Bowl last year. They got for that, um, they've added the tight end and effort. Oliver is gonna come

back off injury. So maybe finally they'll figure out the tight end position and have some success their long term. But they could use another guy on the outside right, I mean a wide receiver opposite chart. That would be a really nice get earlier in this draft. It would be really nice. It would be really really nice. The the receiver from Alabama, Jerry Judy. He's a great skilled route runner, you know. I think he can get better

and catching the ball. He had some some drops, but he's such a great route runner, and you need that in the NFL because of the timing. You want to precision. Uh and in the routes that the depths the proper depths, knowing how to maneuver in zones, the man versus man coverage. He's shown some great ability. So I like Jerry Judy, and I also like Justin Jefferson. You know, he's a guy I think would be really nice, you know. And

uh he's a guy who terrorizes the slot. I think he was six one two oh five or somewhere in that ball park, and he showed outstanding hands at l s U. Uh just his campaign last year was amazing. So I and and he and uh DJ to have familiarity then to L s U. Guys, I don't know if we can handle three. L s US got to say, we're a little enough of tigers over here, Fred, But uh, you know history usually works that way, man. Uh. You know L s U has been a great collegiate program lately.

They've always had solid players. You know, they finally got a coach and play and then they had a quarterback that went out there and played well. So those guys, you know, they have some ability. We'll see what happens. Or maybe even Derek Brown at nine. I mean I liked every Brown at nine. First I said, Calais was you know, the already was defensive line in my opinion. He's the beast. He could play any position across the board in my opinion. So I like him at nine.

You know, I love that ninth pick. Ninth pick did okay? Uh that was me everything. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. Hell yeah, So that I was ninth pick and ninety eight. So I got a lot of love for that slot. And Derek Brown, like I said, he's a beast out there SEC guy or either it just fall back and get a receiver at a twin who knows. But they got a lot of room. Fred Taylor with US proud of the Jaguars running back and Fred, I think you could be a video or TV producer in your future.

Because that's a perfect segue to the defensive talk for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've added some pieces there obviously in free agency, and it's because the second part of the season they were carved up in the running game and especially right up the middle of the defense. And you can't get much done when you can't stop the running game, especially you're right up the middle. So they got a middle linebacker and showbirge. Um, they're moving Miles Jack to

the weak side. But the big question now is what's that interior going to look like? And either if it's brown or it's kin Law or somebody like that, you feel like that's still um the final one of the final pieces missing on this defense. Yeah, whatever it is, of whomever it is right now, he's gonna have to be a young guy that comes in. He's got to

be a beast. You know, he's gonna have to have a dog attitude of mentality because it starts with the down for you know, um, the question, one of the big question marks, uh and I'm pretty sure concerned for the team when it comes or when it came down to if they wanted to, you know, extend unique to a long term bill. You know, you have to as well as good at a pass rusher as he is, he has to be a little more stout in the run game. He's a side of the player, don't get

me wrong. And we all have some strengths and weaknesses. I struggled catching the ball. That was one of my weaknesses. You know, he could be better in the run game, and he will do that through his quickness, but you have to have those guys in the interior to make his job a bit easier. Now he can just rat shot with his speed and his quickness. Uh and also even with the guys that they're bringing in the moves, the changes that linebacker, I think Miles is gonna do

well on the outside. You'll he'll he'll be able to give himself an opportunity to move back to that position where he could just use his speed, hit his athleticism cover those guys in the slot. He's a better zone defender as opposed to just drop him back in the middle. But more important, you have to have that down down for to protect those guys in the run game. It

starts with the down for. So it'll be interesting to see what UH Doug and the defense what they do UH in that in that UH in those positions to make them those guys better and give the team an opportunity to get back to where they were a couple of years ago in the run game. Fred another need for the Shaguar football team is a true front line starting cornerback. Jalen Ramsey's in Los Angeles. A J. Boyer is a mile high in Denver right now. So, hey,

guess what. Trey Herndon had a pretty good year last year. D J. Hayden's going to stay inside at Nicola. It sounds like they got somebody in free agency, but it's a competing free agent. Feels like that they could go cornerback pretty high in this draft too. Yeah, it definitely does sound that way. It does sound that way. I mean, I like C. J. Henderson, you know, of course I do, you know, but he's he's long, he's rangy, he's fast. You know, he's a guy who's familiar. You know, he's

great and press coverage. The defense that they played down the floor some blitzing a lot of man and man shadowing the receiver. He didn't shadow a lot of receivers because he, let me say, he blanketed a lot of receivers.

So I think that would be a solid pick. Whether it be they could go defense the fense, you know, because with with those fourth rounds, you're gonna find a receiver, you know, But if you have an opportunity to get a lockdown cornerback, you know, a guy like a Derrick Browner, so in the top ten, you know, go for it. Because offense, if you build your defense to be great, and we don't know what these guys are gonna bring

to the table. It's all about potential and possibility. But if you build a defense to be just likes out great, you're gonna give your offense more opportunities to get the ball back to to to try and work their magic and make something happen. And with those opportunities you have, you always have on your side potential for penalties, you know, with deep shots to the receivers, uh and everything else that comes along with it. So I don't think defense

defense is bad. Um I did like Jefferson at twenty or receiver at that big but um receive were cornerback for that second pick? I think they go either way right now. Because the offense does have some guys returning, I think cornerback might be more of a necessity. Um, but I mean who knows called well he has, you know, to make those decisions. I believe Doug is gonna get a bit more involved, you know, because he's their roster. You have to have some familiarity with your players and

the guys that are coming in. So if these guys fit my philosophy and my style of play, you know, and in communication more than anything between the front office and the coaching staff, that's gonna be so big for the team this year, more so than it had been in previous years. Fred Taylor, pride of the Jaguars running back, joining us. The full conversation coming up tomorrow in a

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you didn't, you should have go there. It's a free website, Jaguars dot com. We UH caught up with Charles Davis, great college football analysts for a number of years, has moved to the NFL over the last few years on Fox as a game analyst there and around draft time he jumps on NFL Network and helps out with their coverage of the NFL Draft to build up to it

as well. We were talking I guess last Friday, and that was the day that all the stories broke about CBS is in Charles Davis, and I believe was the next day where the reports came out of a verbal agreement. So he's in the process of moving over to CBS. Anyway, Charles Davis really really good when it comes to the draft process and raking prospects and going through what happens each and every year. Here's part of our conversation Charles Davis and what he thinks about the Jaguars early in

this draft. And let's go right to your most recent mock draft. You go Tristan Worth's the Iowa tackle at nine and Trebon Digs from Alabama the cornerback at twenty. I've seen a lot of people go on offensive lineman at number nine lately. Why did you go that direction? Just when that direction with with looking at what they're

doing and how they're constituting things. Can they continue to get Leonard four Nett going, can they fortify that offensive line and if Gardner Minshew is going to be there, guy obviously get it protected. I just think value is there as well. And JP you got four big time offensive tackles that I think on in every draft room, they will be the four in whatever order people have them. Right worst will be one of them. And that's right in the midst of an offensive tackle run and by

late this mock draft. But I think that there's a possibility that Jack Bars could go in a number of different areas, a number of different directions. Because if somehow that young man from Clemson, Isaiah Simmons, drops to nine, I don't know how you don't hop on him there. Could they surprise us all and grab one of those receivers early? Could they go defensive line? Is Derek Brown still available from Auburn? Is Javon kin Law in their

wheelhouse from South Carolina at number nine? And Dave called well as the GM I remember him pulling a fast one on all of us with a guy named Blake Bortles then no one saw coming. What if he decided, Hey, I'm gonna fool you all in this draft and come back and get another quarterback and create some competition for the guy we already have. So I think there's a

number of ways they could go. But that's how I went into this latest mock draft, and Traybon Digs, I gave you a twenty because I think he can play corner and there's a screaming need for you there. But I know he can play safe if if indeed that doesn't work, and he can swing back there and give you value. So I think I'm getting almost not a two for one, but I'm actually backstopping myself a little bit by if he can't do one, I'm pretty sure he can do the other and be a pretty darn

good player doing it. Do you feel like there's gonna be at least early in this draft, maybe ahead of the Jaguars, a lot of movement, a lot of trading around. There's always that threat of phone calls and a lot of times we don't see it happened. But um in front of the Jaguars, how much chaos could there be that slides down to number nine? If there's going to be chaos? Does it started too with Washington who have made a little bit of noise about maybe taking a

quarterback there. Remember they traded for Kyle Allen with Carolina to compare with Dwayne Haskins. Does that lesson matt Idea Detroit at three? You would think that they would be open for business. But part of what's it they've got a battle is did in their ownership group tell their GM and their head coach, you've every played meaningful games in December, so so so are you going to get out of that one? Or maybe they look at it

and say, someone really wants a quarterback. Come get that quarterback you wanted three and give us a couple of picks and maybe they add to their rosters. So their impossibility at four with the Giants, they get him in the GM, whether it's been at Carolina or his short time, and with the Giants JP, you know, and he's never traded out of his pit, so they're less likely to be that group. So let's just see what happens as we go forward. Charles Davis with us from NFL Network

Serious XM Radio. You mentioned earlier in the cornerback position when you mentioned Trayvon Diggs at number twenty in recent mocht. It seems like there's a bunch of other names there. And then obviously the Jaguars have a need there with everything has happened in the last calendar year. Jalen Ramsey out of here, a J Boyer now gone, so there's an open spot at outside cornerback to compete at least if not start right away for somebody coming in pretty high.

Of those guys who do you feel like can come in right away and started outside corner, well, I think if you want to really be bold at nine and take C. J. Henderson from Florida, he would be that guy. Because I think Jeff of Couda in Ohio State has probably gone in the first five picks or so it appears. It would be a surprise if he slid down, But if he does somehow that can alter things too. And could you imagine him sitting there at nine. I think that jack boards might very well have to go in

that direction. But I would think Henderson would be in play at nine. And then if you come back with twenty, I already talked about Diggs, but you got a Christian Fulton from l s U who would be a big, big time player there and someone that people don't look at.

And a J. Terrell from Clemson also would be someone that would be discussed during that time frame, and both of them I think would be on the board and be in play, sitting there in the number twenties spot, along with a guy like Treyvon Diggs that I've already talked about previously outside of guys like Burrow and to Uh and the kid from Oregon, Herbert, who were some maybe second tier guys at quarterback that could be in play,

you know, second, third, fourth rounds here. Yeah, I think I think at that point, because I think Jordan's love from Utah State, someone's gonna grab him in the first as well. So let's get beyond that. Jacob from from Jake from because I keep hearing from his bands, we haven't called him Jacob since he was a freshman. Okay, my fault. Jake from from from from Georgia has been nothing but a winner and productive. I think he's more

like a third round guy. I think Jalen Hurts is a guy that you better keep an eye on coming out of Alabama and Oklahoma, who I think rose during the preach draft process and was really good during the All Star Game process. And remember this about it. He's a plat out Jim Rat. You know, he played for his dad in high school, so he was that kid that was watching tape as a kid, right and going to all the practices and and and that fit and the practice field was more of his babysitter and he

just got gathered by us Moses. We always talked about other quarterback acts at what Let's not lose sight it out with Jalen Hurts. He gets it, understands the game. He would be a guy. The guy with the biggest arm in the draft I think is Jacob Eeson out of the University of Washington, But we don't know what we feel about him in terms of maturity, leadership, those capabilities, because there were question marks about that at Georgia and

at Washington. But if you want to play a game of catch Jping, you better bring double padded gloves when you play with him. This guy can absolutely spin it and playing it. So those would be some of the guys that would be next in line that we would be talking about. You know, a Jake Luton from from Oregon State would be more like a third day pick. But those are the types of quarterbacks were talking about. Charles Davis from NFL Network NFL on Fox I guess

previously and reports sorry he's going to CBS. We also caught up this week with Charlie Casherley, longtime executive of the National Football League General Manager, former GM of the Washington Redskins and the Houston Texans. Three super Bowls with the Washington Redskins. Two is an assistant GM one as the top man in charge there. What does Castily think of the Jaguars overall needs and how they relate to this draft. I think they need a couple of things here. Uh,

and that's why they've got two first round picks. Okay, one of them is Jail and Ramsey. So I think there's a couple of things here. Offensively, I think i'd like to see him get another receiver. I think that would add to the offense, cause more problems with the defense, loosen it up for for Net to run. You know, A lot depends on, you know, how Minshew Minshew develops as a quarterback. Can he have the consistency over sixteen games? Um?

But I think weapons will help him. Defensively, Uh, you know, Campbell was a good player, but but he was kind of, you know, on the downside a little bit there. He was not an outside rusher anymore. He could he could be a decent inside rusher. So a defensive tackle I think would really help in the draft. That would be number one. I think a owner on the outside. I think those are the things that I would look at. They can fill those needs, then I think they can

take a jump and be competitive. So I think they'll be competitive. But we're talking about trying to get to the playoffs. I think those are the positions they got to check boxes in. And finally from casser Lee, what is the biggest need at nine and which way could the Jaguars go? Well, I think you have to take the best player there. Uh, and and that's number one. But I think they could get lucky and take have a defensive tackle sit there. So this this is where

you gotta keep your fingers crossed. Uh. Javin ken Law of SAFA excuse me, South Carolina and Derek Brown of Auburn, I ain't both are outstanding players. Kim Law might have a little bit more flexibility position wise across the front, but I think they both can stop the run. They both can rush the passer from the inside, which is hard to find. I'd be happy with either one if I were them now. Uh. And my last Park draft, the fingers weren't crossed enough. Okay, both were gone, and

that can happen now. I don't think you will, but I think it can happen, and so at that point I didn't see another defensive tackle to take. Jeff Amacuda. The top corner was gone. Uh, they could take a wide receiver Jerry Judy. Uh. That may not be their top need, but he would be the best player sitting on the board. That's changed the offense right away there. But I gave him Isaiah Simmons, who doesn't appear on the surface to be a major need outside linebacker. He's

not a middle linebacker. Now, he's not a middle linebacker. I don't think or safety, but I think this guy would be their best cover player on nickel. He bade the best safety because that's where he should play it. I think primarily he would play the same position as as Miles Jack. Uh. So that really isn't necessarily a need, even though I think he would be better there. This guy is a top ten pick. So that's kind of

one that throws a wrench in there. If you didn't like that, hey, and you couldn't trade up or trade back, I take Judy and go you got you got the best receiver in the draft. Interesting stuff. Charlie casser Lee from NFL networked the full conversation available on the team website Jaguars dot com. We're back in a moment, will get the anchor leg of the show with Jeff Logman, Jaguars analysts Congrey and Pen. The farm is closed until further notice, but you can still order products from the

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eating good now. But I mean, heck, I got on the scale last week one day and it was after workout, so I was a little bit hydrated, and I was to twenty nine. I haven't been to twenty nine since college. I might not recognize you back together. Well, you know, I'm working on it now. I went back and started eating appetizers before every meal, so I've gotten back to my normal range. I must say I haven't missed a beat.

I'm still eating and eating well yeah, oh yeah, Like I saw some of your pictures now, even tweeting out or instagram and out whatever it was that I've been seeing, and uh, you're a mighty fine cut man. Well, I mean, the problem is I have to eat at all. There's nobody else here to eat it so bad. I have to do like a drive by and you can throw me a path, you know, throw you a barbecue rib out the window, thrown in the window, the passenger window, all have it open as I go by. I like that.

That's a good idea. Dave Caldwell and Doug Barone spoke today and they did their pre draft luncheon with air quotes there. It was over a video conference today. You're not really gonna learn any anything from this. Have you ever learned anything at a pre draft conference? We learned that they like lunch about it. Yeah, I mean, you're

not gonna learn anything there. And uh, you know, I know that Peter King reminded everybody in this column earlier this week when we talked about how you know the best poker player, one of the best top five poker players in the business to Day called while he wanted to tell his wife who to pick it. You know, so, why is he gonna sta share any information whatsoever in a pre draft luncheon. He's not, you know, so, Uh, it's gonna be a big mystery. You know. The Jaguars

put it this way. The Jaguars have a lot of needs and there's so many different directions that they can go. I think it's very difficult to forecast or try to pin their pick the one or two guys. Uh and and look and position. There shouldn't be a closed position on the Jaguars draft board. I mean, can you think of a position group JP that you're still great about?

Like they're okay, they don't need anybody no, I'm not really no, no, no, no. So so there should not be any position that should be closed for the Jaguars, and including quarterback. And you know, and I know that they talked today and Doug talked about how he wants to get competition for everybody and and also would like that competition for the quarterback. And that's the reality. And

I said this before and I'll say it again. You know, you've you've got to look at everybod and you have to evaluate every position, in the quarterback position being the most important. You have to even look at even drafting somebody. Hi, even though, uh, this is gonna be a very difficult season, a very difficult season, I think for young quarterbacks because of the situation with the coronavirus. So it's gonna be

hard to get a young quarterback up to speed. It's gonna be hard to get a young football team up to speed. And I think it's a great challenge, a tremendous challenge for the Jaguars football team this year because they're gonna be young in a lot of areas, and they're gonna be young that the most important position, regardless of who the quarterback is at that position, and with a new offensive coordinator news system. You know, so this is this is gonna be a challenging year for the Jaguars.

And we knew it was going to be a challenging year from the get go when they started to make salary cap room and release them some veterans, and so talking about a young team that may not have an all season, that may not have a complete preseason, and I think as every day passes, you know, it's kind of getting harder or harder to envision an NFL season being anywhere close to normal less for sure. Jeff Lagman with US Jaguars analyst on the phone line on Jaguars

Happy Hour. And that's that's a great point, Logs, because you can do all of the classroom work you want. You can get the game plan and the playbook from Jay Gruden down from the cloud and and go through it in your living room and do all this, but at some point you have to get on the field

with eleven guys and run through this stuff well. And and when you're talking about you know, a team that's gonna have a lot of draft picks, it's gonna have a lot of young players, you know, you're talking about learning a new offense. You're not gonna have the repetitions that you normally would. I don't care about all this

virtual stuff, Like virtual stuff is for the birds. I mean it's good and that you're doing something, But Virtua was not the same as it his hands on and you know, even this week you talked and I don't know if you saw the interview with you Want Taylor, I'm sure you did, and he talked about getting equipment sent to him from Milo and players getting money to get equipment or getting equipments. I mean, look, I go back on and I think I mentioned this Kap what

was it a month and a half ago? A month ago, about how the world of players gonna work out? You know? So, I mean we have players that don't even have workout equipment, some players that are having to go to a neighbor's house in a garage weight room. I mean, look, NFL players with a lot of weights. There's not a lot of at home workout rooms that have enough weight for an offensive lineman in the NFL or for NFL players,

you know. So, I mean this is this is gonna be such a challenging year, and so many different aspects and the more veteran team that you have, I think, the more a depth you're gonna be at adjusting to this because veteran players typically have figured it out, They've learned how to be a pro, They've acquired certain pieces of equipment through the years. They're more sedentary, they have a home, they have a house, you know, so being a lot of young players, they don't have any of that.

You know, they don't have any of that. I mean a lot of them are still living in an apartment, you know, at college. And some of them are still living an apartment because they just finished their rookie year in the NFL or their second year in the NFL, and they haven't figured out, you know, what they want to do for living arrangements yet. So uh, a tremendous challenge again for the Jaguar because they are young, and

because they're gonna even be younger after this draft. All right, lock, final thought, whether you here in ten seconds, what will the Jaguars do with the ninth pick next week, a week from today? Ten seconds? Ten nine eight? I don't know, JP. I mean, look, Derek Brown, kin Law, Who's what do you want him to do? What do you want him to do. Who do I want him? What do I wanted?

I wanted to get Chase Young JP. I want him to get Joe Burrow And you know what, they've got some graphic capital to maybe go up and get one of those guys, Isaiah Simmons. I'd love to see them maybe slide up a little bit to get him. But uh, and look, I haven't been able to watch a lot of the quarterbacks yet. I'll do that between now next week. But uh, big question mark JP. It's a lot of picks that can work there. Take the best one, great stuff. Way to close it out, Logs. We'll talk to you

next week on Draft Night. Looking forward to a JP. There is Jeff Lockman. By the way, three cheers our new segment on the show last week, to Letard for that seven thousand meals per week, to the second artist of New Orleans, Tyler Shantley helping out senior citizens in our local area. And Carl Davis defensive lineman as well. Thanks for our entire crew everybody behind the scenes putting this show on. I'm JP. Drink and the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network w j X L

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