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The fallout from the Jaguars' Week 1 loss and a look around the NFL with Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli and J.P. Shadrick on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet HomeLoans and Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football and he should be over ten thousand yards and congratulations to the great Bret Taylor. It is Monday, September nine. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans and now Tony Baselli's chief epistolari in j Pace Shadrick. I don't know what that means, and I'm not sure I want to know what that means. Your microphone is off, Tony, and let's keep it that way.

Maybe if was paying attention and we have everything ready. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour. Welcome in. My name is J. P. Shadrick. That's Tony Baselly. Pete Prisco is down in South Florida from CBS Sports. What was that word you said? I don't even know what it means? Epistolarian? I bet Pete knows. What do you mean? I didn't. I can't hear you that. How do you say? How do you say? Why did I can't hear him? What did he say? I can hear? Epistolarian? Epistillarian.

It's some religion, right, that's episcopalian. Epistolarian. Do you have any idea what that means epistolarian, No don't. I don't either. Whatever, let's move forward here. Sure, look at the sun Devil shirt repp in your school. Yeah right. Hey. By the way, Tony, I can't wait. The good folks at Westward One get to get a real treat with your preview coming up Thursday's. Wow. Wow, last time I checked, they're not calling you. We've got quite a program tonight. Let's to discuss on reaction slash

overreaction Monday. We'll see which it is for the Jaguars quarterback shuffle some changes and just won't was a go fulls placed officially on injured reserve defensive issues yesterday. Huh, I know, lack of composure. Think I know that too. We'll hear from Doug Morone and Calais Campbell in the locker room on that today, and we'll go around the National Football League on National Football League in a busy first week. Well, I mean this all happened in the

first quarter and a half or so yesterday. The quarterback got hurt, the defense gave up what scores on pretty much every drive. The defensive defensive captain got ejected from the football game that was on a quarter back to back years. We get the captain ejected st Sky was falling yesterday. What in the world, Pete, what's going on? It was awful. I mean, I'm I'm watching this defense who I said had a chance to be better than they were two years ago. They were terrible on the

back end. Guys were one and wide open the entire time. What the heck happened? Yeah, I'm not very good Tony when you watched the take, Tony, I haven't had chance to watch the old Tony two. But what happened? Um? Kelsey abusing every person who covered him? Uh, blown coverages? Mr Simmons, um poor, just awful tackling. Yeah, I mean, should I continue? Yeah? I want to hear the culprits though? Who who? Okay? The miss tackle on the first pass was an obvious one, right, that's easy to see. Who.

I want to make sure you got the right person because it was it was people, not person. Well, the guy standing in the middle of the field missed. Who was that? Like? It was the two safeties, wasn't it. No, it was Ronnie Harrison who came out out of control flailing the first one. He should make the play right away, right there, and then if you rewind that, if you can, Jalen Ramsey is sitting there, flat footed, just watching him run by. Oh somebody's calling you Pete all right, so okay,

so JAYL, what's Jalen Ramsey doing there? We'll watch you just stand there juked. I don't know. He just stood there and the other guy got blocked. And then and the first guy, Ronnie Harrison, just came out of control, flailing up the field like he I don't know what he was doing. It should have been a twelve yard pickup ends up turning in sixty yards in the middle of oy. But that happens all the time. It happened all the time yesterday. Guys are open and it's okay,

they're a good offense. You know they're gonna score some points, but come up and tackle them. It's like the play that Jalen made on Tyreek Hills. It was a speed out. He came up and hammered him. That's fine. You keep on hammering those guys. It gets it gets harder to make those catches as the game goes on. But coming up and just flailing and missing and being flat footed, um it was. It was awful. The linebacker, I mean Jalen,

I mean Miles was. He wasn't very good before he got ejected a j boy a on the one on the one where he was wide open down the sideline. What happened on that one, Tony, Because you couldn't really see from the TV. So I'm guessing, and so I want to be you know, because I don't. I haven't talked to any of the coaches and what coverage. It looked like they were in zone. It looked like everyone else was playing zone except for one guy, Jalen Ramsey.

That's what Dug Maron talked about this today. And from that that there was a crossing round. One of the inside guys is supposed to follow him and then supposed to be a guy outside in that zone. That's Jalen's deep third. He's playing man and everyone else is playing zone. It's just it's a communication bust all over the place. I don't know if it's communication if one guy's if if ten guys are doing it right, it's one guy not doing right. That's not communication. That's a miss assignment.

It's a mental are okay, well, guys, it's a mental are on Jalen, Yeah, I mean it just it looks sloppy, terrible. That the terrible, awful, no composure, missing tackles, talking when you shouldn't talk. You're down by three touchdowns and you're running, you get you get a stop on third down, you run your mouth, give an automatic first down? Ronnie Harrison, come on, what are you doing? There's no accountability to each other, to anybody. It's the same as last year. Well,

I mean that's what it looks like. And I'm not gonna kill him and overact too much, but it was bad. But we're gonna talk about this in depth a little bit later. We'll hear from Doug Marone his thoughts about all that composure issues yesterday and if it will be a recurring theme as the season goes on. Coolis Campbell defensive captain, what they can do in the locker room about it. We'll hear from that a little bit later today. But it is a topic. It's a huge topic. It's

a huge topic. And you know, you come out and you have the we show the first touchdown, just poor execution, poor tackling, you know, pour everything, Okay, it happens, no problem. You gotta three and out happens. It's the flow of the game. It's gonna go back and forth. They go back down, move it. But you force a field goal. All right, it's tend nothing. And now you you go score seven and your quarterback gets hurt. So I mean,

it's as bad a situation as you can. But that's and I said it on the air, that's where if you're a great defense, that's where you get all eleven guys around and say, listen, it's a three point game. It is time for us to take over and to shut these guys down. We have a rookie quarterback coming in. Let's give him a chance. Let's get some turnovers, let's make some plays. And what happened is they able down,

score touchdown. And the only reason it was it was actually a good football game going in a halftime because the offense showed up. Offense did the very thing I was hoping the defense would do. Rallied around the rookie quarterback. The rookie quarterback played good football and kept in the ball game. Heck, if you don't fumble the ball, if Leonard doesn't fun fund with the ball in the first drive, uh, in the second half and you go make that a touchdown.

It's I mean, so the offense rallied and guys played hard and made plays and but defensively you stopped him once all day. You stopped him when it did not matter, and it was it was terrible. It was just on on Sunday, and you would have thought he would have been the biggest worry. When I went to bed last night, I felt the best about the offensive Gardner missus yeah it look yeah, and they executed well. You threw the ball well, made good decisions at composure of the offensive line,

played well. Big shout out, and I'm sure we'll get into this later. Even more will Richardson junior apps stud performance and left tackle having never done before, just played his tail off and played at a high level. I mean, just played really well and really impressed by what he did. And I thought for the most part, the offense played good, especially under the situation that they were in with the ricky quarterback. I do think Taylor played on the other

side good. You get some airs, a couple of things, a couple of holding penalties, but you know, all things that are very physical. It was not. I mean, it's fixable. It wasn't too much for him. He was never physically overwhelmed. He had good footwork. I mean he did there's some things that he can correct and clean up and what you would expect. But for the most part, I thought it was he was fine. Yeah, I think the mine's gonna be okay. To be honest with you, A j

struggled in the first half against Chris Jones. Well, I mean a lot of people struggle against Chris Jones, powerful man. Yeah, he really struggled. Um, But yeah, I thought off it's a line I thought, Leonard ran Hard. I thought the receivers played well. I mean they look like an offense. Like if you said they're gonna score twenty six points, if they don't, don't go for two, really twenty seven points. If you'd have told me, I'm like, I'll take it.

That means where you're they're gonna lose a three point game or win a three point game, right, And not only that, Tony, they looked like an offense when whether it was Folds or Minshew, they were hitting receivers and receivers look like big boy NFL receivers. Pete, if you would if you landed on this planet yesterday and watch that game, you would have said, boy, they gotta they're okay at offense. And they have the worst defense ever

known to mankind. And we've been sitting here talking about, oh, our defense, how great our defense is, and Pete saying they're gonna be the next Ravens and Bear eighty five Bears defense and all this stuff, and they'll come out like that. And it's if you had to give it up twenty four even thirty to the Chiefs just because

they make plays, that's that's no harm in that. But to do it the way he did it, with no composure and penalties and fighting and missed assignments and miss tackles and just and it could be and it was if it was guys going, if you're going down the field, bang bang bang hit here, hit here, hit here, twenty yard played, ten yard play boboo, next thing, you know

on the end zone. You can deal with it. But guys running wide open and busting a and then running through free through the middle of the field without a tackle. B it just didn't look good. It looked awful. Yeah, And the thing is it could have been worse earlier, because you know, Mahomes tries to no look pass for a wide open time he was wide open, overthrows him for no reason. Should have been twenty one. And then there was another in the back of the end zone

where I think he had Kelsey again. You know who busted that one on Kelsey And the one where he tried to no look pass because it wasn't a soul NERO. I'm not sure. It's hard to tell. It could have been twenty eight. The first four drives for Kansas City, Oh, he missed the I mean he also missed uh Damian Williams on a wheel route one on one of the Linebackery overthrew. I mean, listen, it was too easy. The bottom line, they ran the ball with Shady McCoy average

like six seven yards to carry. Um. It was just it was too easy. I mean, I don't know what else say it was. It was an awful performance. But that's not what bothers me the most. What bothers me the most is the lack of composure and like the lack of accountability and the lack of self awareness of what is going around on around you, Like I don't understand what who is talking? In the second half of your on defense and what are you talking about? Yeah,

what the heck are you doing? I mean you haven't stopped anybody yet. I mean they're making plays at will. You have missed assignments, you have blown coverages, your penalties galore. You getting kicked out for five eating. I mean, Sammy Watkins looked like he's in the greatest receiver in history, man guy. And I even said, like with the whole miles fighting thing, like the fighting, Okay, it happens. I'm not gonna be a hypocrite. I got in fights in the NFL um but when it's over, it's over. Walk

off the field if you get thrown out. What was he doing, like literally trying to get out of chiefs place. He was trying to get out of an official What was he doing. I think he was trying to get to the chief sideline and he had to he had to me. It was like me having to grab my eight year old son who was losing it and flipping out and carrying him to his room. I mean, that was he. He looked like he buffled over and I thought for a second, maybe got hurt or something. It

was weird. He was. It was out of control. He had to be escorted off by two Jaguar officials instead of just walk. Was that that took him over? Was that Marcus Pollard, Ernest Wilford and Cedric Scott assistant strength coach. Okay, I mean he was. Yeah, it's a bad look, but he apologized for it. So let's let's uh, let's give him that much. I mean, it's a bad look, you know, Miles Jack, that's out for him. That's a little out of character, I think. And so it's a bad look

at the horrible look. Something needs to be done about that type of behavior. But he apologized for it. Now he can move on. I'm fine with that. My issue is, so this is something we that we were that we dealt with last year and it was supposed to be over right. Problem, that's the problem. What's the blame for that? Tony Well, to me, that's an easy one. That's a leadership, leadership at the highest level all the way to the

leadership in the locker room. Tell you what on that note, let's come back, we'll hear from some of that leadership. Clais Campbell, head coach, Doug Morale. It's personal accountability. Be accountable, you're pro We're off and running. We'll get to your social questions. An our number two tonight they were flying in today. This is very I don't like the start of the show. Feel very negative. Yeah, your glass is half empty? Or is it that we'll see I might

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biggest thing is can we keep it together? You know, especially in moments where you know it can you know, put more points on the board or take points off the board or whatever the scenario mat to be. We understand that, you know, Uh, we can't give up you know, uh free yardage. You know we can't give a penalties.

But you know, you definitely I mean, you know, the chip on the shoulder to guys play with, you know, the motion guys play with, that's what makes it special, you know, so we needed you know, it's just gotta pleasure don't you know, don't you know we don't get penalties for it. You know, it's gotta be that that fine line of that balance, you know, and uh, we'll

get that. That's Calais Campbell in the locker room today when asked about defensive composure issues walking back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, JP Shattrick, Tony Vasselli here in Jacksonville, Pete Presco down in Fort Lauderdale, CBS Sports Senior writer. After the Jaguars fall forty to twenty six. The Jaguars have quarterback moves today as well. Nick Foles placed an I R designated to return. They trade for Josh Dobbs. We'll get to the details of all that

coming up a little bit later tonight. Gardnerment, you expected to start the Sunday against the Houston Texans in week two, But our conversation moves now to those composure issues for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yesterday, Myles Jack ejected from the game after the game, had an explanation as to why. First of almost I got to apologize to my teammates, the city of Jacksonville. That's that's not how we conduct ourselves in any way. Um, in the heat of the moment,

I just felt like, um, Sammy, Sammy Watkins. He ran a route that wasn't around. He came and hit me undneath my chin. I put my hands up. He stood over me, says something, so I pushed them. The next thing I knew I was getting pushed in the back of the head. I didn't see any flags at that point. I just felt like I had to defend myself in the heat of the moment. It's a lot going on. It's a barbary export we play, which is no excuse for my actions. But um, at the end of the day,

I apologize for that. That would not ever happen again. I've never been ejected before in the game, and that that won't come about it ever again. I promise you that. So there's Myles Jack after the game yesterday day, explaining his reasoning behind everything that happened in that game. Well, the best thing he said is there's no excuse. He explained it, he said, but it's not an excuse for the way I handled it, and I appreciate that. I'm with Pete. It's over. He made a mistake, he says,

it will never happen again. I believe him. He has no history or track record of that. Um, it was a bad look. I know he's probably based on listen to him. He's not proud of it. It happens. We make mistakes. Um, as long as we don't repeat them, and they're a continuous pattern of that type behavior, then it's like, okay, I'm okay with it. I'm not okay with what happened, but I'm okay with Like it's time

to move on the Pete. There seems to be a pattern of behavior with the Jaguars overall the team, but not Miles. Right, Let's be fair, it's not but overall, yet he's the next on the list. That's fair. That is a fair point. Right. And we heard from head coach Jugmarone today and I asked him in the in the press conference today, you know, how do you do you consider these kind of one offs and if not, how how do you make this not become a recurring theme?

Here was his answer. You know, those players understand that they've voiced it, they've they've spoken about it, and now it's a matter of of just being able to do it each week and having people that are gonna be able to to help them. Um, you know, we can take them out of games, we can sit them, we can do all that stuff. Um, you know, but at the end of the day, you know, they have to learn that it's gonna hurt the team and and that's

what they can't do. You would already I would have, I said, I would have yanked Ronnie Harrison, not off the game yesterday, would Yes, immediately at some point you got, I mean, but there's a fine balance. You want your best players on the field. Though, Okay, yesterday have been a good point time to make that point because they

were getting killed. That kind of said suation. You get in the hell out of the game at some point though, the Ronnie Harrison thing, Yeah, at some point, like there's two ways you affect the guy in this league, playing time and money. That's it, playing time and money. And so if you're gonna have repeated behavior that is that we've seen that is gonna hurt the team, then I would be I'd start benching guys. Tody, you made a good point about Miles Jack and his fight, because you've

had them before. If the fight itself happened and you gotta flagged Okay, it's still dumb to get flagged, but it happens. But then the extra is what added on to it that you just had to fight. You would have been okay with it. You don't, like I thought it was. It was a silly time and a silly reason.

You're gonna fight like that. But like like the fights I got into are usually because someone was doing something to another player, like cheap I remember, I gotta fight against the Ravens and Bennie Thompson was cheap shotting Jimmy and Keenan all game. And so at the end of a play, I went and we had scored the touchdown and it was already over. So I went and hit him as hard as I could in the back of the head or the back, and off melee erupted and we got fine fifteen him and I and it was

you know, so there's certain things that happened. I get now that one was a little bit. I mean it's hard because it Miles is right. You get pushed from the back and you're heated. I mean you react to that. So I I get what he's doing. And so that's why I've said all day I'm not gonna kill Miles

for that. It's the reaction afterwards that was out of control, which might get him suspended for a game because it's I don't think the fight, but if the NFL looks at and sees us like he's going after the Ben, sure whatever was happening might suspend them. And so but I would Pete. You know it. You've been around a long time. There's only two ways you affect change playing time and money. Absolutely, and at some point, coach, you

have to say you have to do it. You can't let it get to where it was a year ago. You just can't. Now is the time to stop it. I don't care who it is either, I don't care what it is now. If it's a guy who's never had an issue before he gets a personal foul, that okay, that's fine. But if you like you know who, it depends on the personal fouls. Somebody push kind of thing,

fear is it, whatever it is. But if it's a chase somebody across the field and act like an idiot personal foul, then you get yanked and you takeaways money or his time or talking junk after you like you just gonna stop on third down away from the play, Ronnie, here's nothing to do with the play. Nothing. How do you yanked them? I want to know. I want to ask you this, if you watch to take who played

well on defense? Um? I thought, uh, you know, and he got some really nice rushes against Fisher or he was right there. But the guys are so opened the balls gone. I thought Josh Allen had some really nice plays. I thought Clay has jumped offside like a knuckle a few times. But he played well, made a bunch of plays in the run game. I thought Avery. I thought the front four was fine, but after the front four, boy,

oh boy, not good. When Williams was in there was he busting william He took some he took one bad angle, but he plays fast. Like for his first game ever, I'm gonna give a little bit of a pass. He's never played in an NFL game before, and like he showed up and did some nice things. That's like some reaction made, some plays, took some bad angles. There was one gut caught flat footed. If they would have thrown the uh, Damian Williams would have been a touchdown, but

didn't go there, dropped over Quincy. Yeah, so he was flat footed a couple of times. But I expected some rough moments out of him, just because of the lack of preseason and him being a young guy. But I'm not gonna, you know, put too much on him. The rest of them, Well, okay, how about the safeties. Do they get it because it's the first time starting together? They? Oh, I don't. They're both like Quincy Williams didn't play because

he was hurt. And I and JP we talked about this, and so this is not I told you so type of thing. I guess it's a little bit. But I said from day one, and Loggins and I disputed this or not debated it. I would have played the safeties in the preseason. You did say that, Yes, I said, these guys gotta play. Yeah, Like I wouldn't have played. I wouldn't have played Class and Unike and jalen Um. I would have played the safeties. I'd have played the line.

I'd have played Miles Jack. So like Myles Jack, like was dominant. I like more reps. He needs reps. Here here's the amazing enough to fix it. They're athletic enough, whether the good enough, I don't know. I don't see what they do in practice. They didn't play very well yesterday especially. I don't think Rannie played very well at all. But he was the one that was supposed to go to the next step. Well, we'll find out. It's early. It's one game. We're not gonna kill anyone today. But

here's yeah, it's everyone freaks out. But I'll say this, it's ironic to me, and I'm not trying to kill Doug on this, but I was consistent during the preseason. I didn't agree with it about guys not playing. Um, there's a handful of guys. I understand why you didn't. But the Chiefs, they're starters, if I'm not mistaken, played three preseason games, significant time in three preseason games, and you know what, look at the Bears offense looked like

they didn't play at all in the preseason. I think teams are gonna start revisiting this a little bit. So I just think you, like, there's certain guys like I get that you're not gonna play. They've done it for a long time. I think Andy Reid realized he's a young quarterback. Still young players. You know, new defensive coordinator, new new pieces that you have to see how they fit together, no different. The young offensive lineman Richardson played

pretty well. You said he played the preseason, played the whole preseason, right, probably more reps than anybody, right. I think it matters somebody, somebody, I'm not saying, and they don't tackle in practice. So but it's one game. There's sixteen of them. As I told a bunch of people day, let's not forget the Saints, who should have been in the super Bowl if it wasn't for a blown call.

Lost Opening Day to the Buccaneers last year at home, and everybody was talking about how great Ryan Fitzpatrick is and then he got benched. Yeah, so let's not like you can't like like again. Last year we were three and one, beat the Patriots Week two. Everyone thought this was the best team in they look what happened. And so the only the thing that concerns me it's twofold. And we'll talk about the quarterback here is a little bit the quarterback because as well as he played his

store rookie, that's worrisome. And two is does this team have the character, in the composure in the cuts to dig deep and say we're gonna fix it? Because it's only they did last year. It's only gonna happen in that locker room. It's the locker room has to do it, or are they gonna point fingers? And is everyone gonna blame everybody else? Last year they quit, well, then a lot of point fingers, you know, and they quitt quit. Go back to the Tennessee game. They quit that night,

and so are you gonna are you gonna rally? The troops look at each other in the locker room and say, hey, enough enough, let's cut it out. We're in this together. We're accountable to each other, like I'm accountable, you your accountable me. Let's get this thing right. If they do that, okay, it's just one game. But if they start pointing fingers and it's all about me and it's not my faults, their faults, coaches faults, players faults, it's fault. I mean,

it's over, then it's over. It is done. But if they but if they can rally, it's one game, it's not the end of the world. Right. You're never as good as you look in week one or as bad as you look in week one, although the Miami Dolphins might be the exception of that one. And then the Miami Dolphins and one end of the Patriots on the other the Patriots and that this one, this one does look bad though from the outside for the Jags. So

there's no doubt. But so did last year. I go back to that, I mean go back to last year the first t weeks of the season. The Saints, We're like worst defense they were, I mean, they couldn't stop anybody, and we were like the best team in the NFC because we meet the Patriots. Look, look how things ended up. It's a long season. It's a season. Let's come back, Yeah, and they've gotta figure it out at the quarterback position now too. Will come back and delve into all the

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more O. This one's course unfortunately. Um, but at the same time, you know I'm often miss it that it will it will hill quicker, same side, different place on the carbone. And the one in fourteen, didn't you know need surgeries a different it's a hairline fracture. So it's a different situation. Who's quarterback Nick Foles last night, yesterday afternoon, in fact, explaining the different is between his two different color bone entries over the years he has done. He's

on I R Designated to return. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jed hold Loans Tony Vaselli. That I'm J P. Shadrick Jeep Briscoe is our senior of Epistolarion down in South Florida. UM, So let's say I just want to say one thing as soon as he can come back is the Colts game in November, I believe, so eight games between now and then, Pete, what's the record of this team gonna be from? I mean, how could you possibly predict that? With the Gardner Minshew situation.

We don't know what he is. He's prepared. Now your people see you. Now they're prepared for you. And now you have to prepare as you're the guy. Come on, Tony, you know better than that. Let's say how about this. My glasses have full. If he goes four and four, that means that Jags are four and five. When Folds comes back and he does the same thing he didn't, Reilly comes in, uh, you know, back into the season. Here he comes down the stretch. Here's Nick Boles as best.

If there are four and five, they have a chance for the playoffs. If they go five hundred with Minshew, they have a chance for the playoffs. As long as two or three of those wins are against division people, division teams. I mean, that's where you got That's where you have to make your hay is in the division. Um. The one I'll say this, Pete about Minshew, I'm not delusional to think he's gonna go two to seventy five, two touchdowns every week. We had the one pick, but

that was really on four net bounced off his face. Um, so not delusional, not thinking that. But I've said this in JP. We talked about it, and I was the only one who's sitting there on the gardner Minshew's fine is the backup in the preseason. And yet again, as you and Logs and Dempsey were panicking, you did, you did too. Um. The one thing I love about him, and I loved about him all preseason, I never once since he could not handle the situation, and he was

never jittery in the pocket. It was never too big for him. He always had a sense of where to go at the ball, what was happening. He had good presents like it was ugly at times because he made bad throws and he doesn't have the strongest arm, all those whatever and so, and where rookie is get in trouble is because it becomes too big for them and it's too much and they get flustered in the pocket and they start seeing things and they make stupid decisions.

Like no point in the preseason, and at no point during that game, yesterday when he got thrown in with zero reps all week, did he ever get in the pocket and like, oh my gosh, there's people around me. I mean, he was taking hits, he was delivering the ball on time. So I think there's gonna be some ugly moments because he's a rookie and they're gonna they're gonna trick him, and he's in it like he's gonna

get fooled. But I don't think it's gonna be a situation where a lot of rookies where he's flustered and he's in the pocket panicking. I actually I don't think it's crazy saying this team can go four and four. He looked calm, he looked cool, he looked accurate. And you know what else surprised me, Tony, his arm looked better yesterday at any point that it did during the preseason. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't have the strongest arm, but it was. It was good enough. It's a good enough for Bawn

the field. Yeah right. I mean, let me ask you, this, was there ever a game where you watch Blake Portals play here where you said he did exactly what that kid did yesterday, spun around moved his head to made the throws. I almost don't want to say this, but I will. I got home yesterday from the game and my six year old daughter said, Dad, he was better than Blake portals Gardner minsh you and her quote. Her question is, could Blake Parrels ever do that? No, he didn't.

He didn't. Even when he had good games, he didn't look like that. Now I hate, I hate to kill Blake. There's been history here of guys coming off the bench and even starting games where they look magnificent and then you kind of settled in and found out who they were. No, No, I'm not saying he's gonna be, you know, a great quarterback. I think he's gonna be serviceable. I think he's gonna be good enough to help you to win games as long as everyone else pulls their weight. And like, the

defense is the bigger concern for me? Is that crazy going into Houston that the bigger concern for me is the defense that mit chew Because mitche is gonna make mistakes, but he's a backup. He's a rookie, but he's not gonna like lose it. There's not gonna be a lack of composure. There's not gonna be any moment where I go, oh my gosh, he's lost his mind. The franchise found

their Tom Brady. I don't think he has quite strong And then guess what today they made a transaction to get a backup quarterback, Josh Dobbs, coming from the Pittsburgh Steelers for a fifth round pick in I don't understand that move. And Dobbs was inactive in last night's game, the Sunday Night football game. He was the backup and then the Mason Rudolph and they drafted to be the backup kind of I'll play them this summer. That's what

that was. There are a lot of people around the league that like Josh Dobbs jolly, I mean a lot of teams and so I I maybe the fifth rup pick sounds like too much, but this guy had, you know, he had some interest. Well, he was a great player at Tennessee. Um, I'll tell you this. We might have the two smartest quarterbacks on the roster now, because Mitch you like a thousand on the wonder look, and Josh Dobbs is like rocket biology, I mean like like engineers crazy.

He's got something like that. Right astronaut or something. He's like, he's like astro astrophysics or something. He's a he's a genius. So like if we ever go to like one of those, like a spelling bee or like a mind. Uh, the more of those we can gather on this team, the better. So at least we're gonna be smart. We are we have too smart quarterbacks. You know what I like about Minshew as much as anything. Now, he walks on the field and he thinks he's gonna complete pass this. He's cocky.

You can see it. It just oozes out of him. He just thinks he's going to be that guy. Let me let me ask you this. They traded a fifth round pick. I don't for my question with that is not the Pete would know better. I mean I remember Dobbs a little bit in college, and he was, you know, a fourth rounder. He was the middle of the road quarterback, had a good first couple of preseasons with the Steelers. I guess my point is, could you have got it for less if you, well, if you go to your

third guy. I mean at that point, I mean, how much of the get anybody off the street. You're saying, yeah, That's what I'm saying. Why would you why not go get Why get somebody off a practice squad or whatever something like that, Go get the guy he that Dobbs beat out Landry Jones. I mean, I don't know, go get maybe I don't know. Remember they traded a fifth round pick for Marcel Darius. Marcel Darius was a All Pro defensive tackle at one point of his career, starting

defensive lineman. Okay, I'm fine, we'll try a fifth round of that. You're trading for a fifth round. The Texans traded a third round pick for Duke Johnson, Well two first rounders in the second round pick for Larry Matuncil. Right, we'll see how good he is too. But yeah, I mean, look, it's it reeks of desperation for a five. But I can tell you there are teams around the league to think that he could play. Listen, I'm fine with it. What okay, let's play this out. What if ben Hu

goes into throws for well? So the question, that's the question that's fun to think about. What if they what if Minshew those leads his team. There's the when six of the next eight and there six and three and false goes back, what do you do? It would be a great problem. It will be a good show that night, a fun Monday night. I like that. I like that. So did you see the speaking about Minshew where you

said his attitude. He just feels like he walks in the field and like there's nothing that's gonna phase him. So I follow his old coach on Twitter, and Mike Leach posted an instagram that Gardner must have done after the game yesterday. I don't follow a garden Went show. Maybe I need to now And it's a picture of him coming off the field the Chiefs game and he says his quote is I don't scratch my head unless it itches, and I don't dance unless I hear some music.

I will not be intimidated. That's just the way it is. Let's go to work. That's what I mean. I mean, that's the kid. That's the kid. I read that. I'm like, I love this guy. Yeah, I love him. And Mike Leech's uh tweet is one of a kind. There you go. I mean he was fabulous at Washington State. He was a very very good college football player. I mean, the knock on him, he just didn't have a strong enough arm, right, Pete. I mean, that's pretty much exactly what it is. He's

not a big guy either. Can you get can you make your arms stronger? Drew Brees did? Yeah, he did? And what was the knock on him? Coming out? A little guy not a great arm Smart Jaguars have Drew Brees, not Tom Brady Brees. Uh, well, listen, wouldn't that be a great problem to have if he goes six and two and he went six and two, he keep falls on the bench. Oh, you have to and then you get rid of him. God, let's come back. Uh, we'll play crossfire for the first time. This is where we

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in South Florida. We touched in this earlier the lack of composure issues yesterday. Miles Jack in the fight and then ejected from the game and then had to be basically escorted off the field by two personnel people for the Jaguars, and then the towning penalty later in the game by Ronnie Harrison. How And we touched on this earlier, but how and if you were the head coach, what would you do right now? Tony, I'd be yanking people

off the field. I just tell I'd sit down in front of the whole team saying, first of all, this is unacceptable. I'd showed the tape. So this is this is what you guys want to be. This is who we are as a team. And but it's not who who It's gonna not if it's my team, it's not gonna be who we are. And I'm ripping people off the field. I'm telling if you do something stupid, I'm taking you off the field that you're not playing Pete. I'm with Tony on that one. I'm not going to

tolerate the foolishness. If it was an isolated incident or something hadn't happened in the past or didn't bleed into the team a year ago, I would I would say something different. But this is a pattern and they got to stop it before it gets out of control. What if it doesn't stop Benay, Yeah, Benjamin, trade him, cut him, get him out of here. I mean you can't. At some point there has to be accountability for how you play the game and how you behave. A coach without

any discipline is a useless coach. It's it's pointless. Like you just like like then you're not complaining and if you continue to do that, by the way, there's Doug has to come to the podium and say I'm tired of this crap. It's got to stop, and I'm gonna make sure it stops. I don't care if you're saying I don't care if you lose in a game like today, he said, didn't What does this quote? Something happens in the game, You don't know what happened, could have been.

Just stop it. It's gotta stop. I don't care if he comes to the podium or not. He needs to do it in the team. I mean, it needs to stop on the team. It's all about accountability. You have to be accountable for how you play in your action as a player. You're accountable number one to yourself, number two to your teammates number three, to your coaches, number four, to the organization. You're accountable, and if you don't perform, or if you're not giving your best, or if you're

doing stupid things like there has to be consequences. That's how life works. And if there's not, it's pointless. Beach right, it's pointless. What are we doing. You're not gonna win. You will not win without accountability. Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Let's move to the offensive line. Will Richardson made his debut in the NFL yesterday sor stud performance. Let's let's hypothetically whenever Cam is ready to go, is Cam going

back in there automatically? Left tackle? It? Did Will play that? Well? Do you trust him? There enough even a controversy there. I'll say this, We'll played better in that game than Cam did last time we saw he was healthy. Wow, So is there a competition now? Is there a chance he stays there? The problem is he's gonna start somewhere in that line. Yeah, you might be better with campet left tackle and Will riches it right guard. That's what I mean. Will started. Yes, he's one of the best

five players. Gotta have him on the field. Yes, based on that, isn't a more valuable position to the left tackle spot. Who I'm asking number one? Yes, obviously, but the real answers, who are you playing? But Tony would could they move Robinson the guard? Yeah? I mean you can do anything. Well, that's based on and I haven't watched the tape yet, but based on what I saw in the TV, he looked like a pretty natural left tackle over there. Pete. I was shocked, he said today

in the locker room A full times. Where got his feet tanks a couple of times. You can see like he like, yeah, like messed up a little bit, but he had a day and a half of reps and he also was working against some pretty good players. He played really well, Pete, really well. Quickly come there and move probits in the right guard? Can for that job

you know you need to do. You put your best five out there, wherever they are, and you know what, take all the motion out of it, Take where they were drafted, Take what everyone thinks about him, taking all out. Put the five best players out there. One word or name here in this next thought quickly. Greatest defensive concern moving forward, safe safeties, Pete, Yeah, Safeties, Blown assignments, bus Bus and metal Aires. Do you have a crossfire in

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keep getting better. We're gonna believe in each other. And like I told the players, I can't speak for anyone. I can't speak for any of them. I can't speak for the coaches. I made them a promise. I said, the one thing you'll see is I will lead this team to the best my ability. All Right, I'll do the best job possible. Okay, And I believe in this football team, and I think that we will win games. But we make no mistake, we do have work ahead of us. But I feel good about where this team is.

That coach segmaron yesterday after the game, after the Jags fell forty to six to the Kansas City Chiefs, welcome back J. P. Shadrick that he was selling eager to discuss this Pete Friscos down in South Florida, second hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour. Glad you're with us? Yes, Mr Bissella, What do you think he means by saying he feels good where the team is? Is that what he said? It sounded like it to be right. They're gonna win games, he said, he said he feels good about where the

team is. He couldn't he couldn't have felt good about where they were yesterday. This was after the game yesterday, game Yester, That's what I mean? What was he talking about? I don't know. The offense was moving a little bit. Okay, let's gardener, look good, let's let's let's go over what happened.

You lost your starting quarterback, your franchise quarterback, your defense who was supposed to be the strength of their team gave up a scoring every drive except for one d One was a punt that didn't matter at the end of the game they were trying, and the other was a kneel down. Okay, so captain got kicked out. So what I mean? Okay, maybe they feel I mean, the defense can't get much worse than that, though, right, they

can only get better, right, I don't know. I'm just thinking positively here right, Well, you're Mr. My glasses half full of I'm not neat there. Well, I'm not negative. I'm just curious what he was saying. And I like Doug and um, it's tough to be the head coach right after the game in a situation like that, you have to get to talk to the media. I just I want I would love to like if he's in here,

I wouldn't be critical. I'd ask the question like when you say when you say that, like what makes you excited or what do you like about where you are right now as a team. I'm just curious. Well, let's see, the young receivers played well, right, not young, but Conley is not young. But Conley played well, and Chart the young guy played well. Right, that's good for net ran Hard. You just got knocked out for half the season. Your defense was atrocious. You thought it would be a calling card.

I mean, you can't possibly feel good about that team. You gotta be positive, man, gotta leave the ship right the captain if you will. But it's also week one, and Tony you know this as well as anybody. You over analyze everything from week one. It happens. I agree. Still, you can't feel good about that yesterday, not at all. That was a bad day at the office for the Jaguars football team yesterday. Yeah, it it is over analyzed Monday.

You've called it that. It's Monday on the first Monday of the NFL season, in the college season, and the most over analyzed. It's the most over analyzed day in sports because nobody's just good. Lamar Jackson's going to the Hall of Fame this year. Don't you realize that he's already earned his spot. Dak Prescott can do no wrong. Andy Dalton through for four hundred yesterday against Seattle on the road. He's the greatest passer in history. Now, I

mean everything is magnified. Everything good at Man, even in Jacksonville. Huh Pete, Yes, that rationale that really doesn't think that this team is going to do anything close to playing that poorly this week? Yeah, what's the what's the field now, Tony this week, Houston Texans on the road NRG Stadium in Houston Division rival. Of course you're gonna look at I mean, obviously there's two division games within two weeks and then, but this is the one, the most important

one this week. You gotta get this one to get one on one. So you guys want to go ahead and call this game. I mean, so here's the place to night. Uh, they play the h They play the Saints in New Orleans in New Orleans. Tough game, tough game on the road Monday night. I don't know if they'll win that game. I mean close, It doesn't matter.

They're gonna be tired short week. They're gonna be looking at the tape and they're gonna get over confident and they're gonna say, we got a ricky quarterback, we got this defense all over the place. You know what, We just traded our whole draft for the next century to get a left tackle. Like we feel good about where we are. We're confident, and I think the jack is gonna go into NRG Stadium and shocked the world. Shocked the world. Nobody's picking him. Vegas has about nine and

a half point dogs. We just huge in the NFL. That's like being like a thirty point dog in college. And that's before Houston's even taking a staff this year. And if they win, it's gonna be like eleven eleven and a half. I mean, nobody knows what their offensive line is. I like the Jags going in there and dominating the Texans dominated seventeen thirteen. You heard it. If that's dominating seventeen thirteen win, is it a lot? Okay? The Saints and the Dogs tonight, you're gonna change that.

Vick tomorrow, Victory Jacks locked? Are you locking it? We'll check in with me right before the end of the show. Before the end of the show. Yeah, I gotta think of tease, the locked tease, the rare locked tease. Usually he's right in a lot. Yeah, it's a big one though. So you basically think that the Jaguars are going to show up on defense this do I I think if you'd be tough on offense, I think it's gonna be one of those games that Yeah, fits and starts offensively.

I just think the defense is gonna come out. I mean, I gotta believe in these guys. Man, they got their good football players, and they have pride. I can nobody. I don't care. They certainly have passion. We know that. I don't care who you are. You turn on the

tape and you see that. Here's the thing. If they turned that tape on today and if they can't have if they don't have enough self awareness to watch that and get sick to their stomach and be embarrassed by the performance that they gave, then we're we're in trouble. But if they can look at it and say, you know what, that's embarrassing, that's not what I'm proud of that.

I always always just think after a bad performance, like the other thirty one teams are gonna have this film and watch me and what I just put on tape, And so that's what I was like, I don't want that to ever happen. And so if they can look at it and say, enough enough, that was anomaly. That wasn't us, and we're not gonna let it be us. I just gotta feel there to come out and play well defensively. I think there gonna come out and be the Jaguars we expected him to be. Pete, What do

you think of all this? I think they'll play better. Let me see Houston tonight first before I go out on a limb and make that at that pic. I mean, if I see problems on that offensive line again tonight and Deshaun Watson's running for his life and getting picked off and playing poorly, then I might be able to agree with Tony. But I haven't even seen the Texans play a snap yet. Neither. You're scared? Are you scared? Are you gonna lock it? He said? He's you're If

you're not scared, unlock it right now? Um, it's done. It's locked. Is he didnam? That just happened. But you have a pretty good record with your locks, don't you just ask? You know what the locks are good? I got in trouble last year with three double locks at all. That's a very rare bird. I can't bring the double locks out a double lock three and I lost them all there. I think I was. I think I won all the locks except for one last year. So if the Shaun Watson the States in this game, are you

gonna change in the lock tomorrow morning. Uh no, once it's locked, it's locked. The keys thrown away. Hope they looked like garbage. No, I don't care. I hope they. I hope they beat the you know what, I have the Saints, And I hope every Jaguar defenders watching that, and I hope they're ready to come. I hope the ready to show up and play like the players that they are. Not what we saw on that field, the trash we saw, no more. These guys are good football players.

It's up to them now. I've done my part. I've locked it. What I can't do anything every what else you want to do? I mean you you can't go running out there with a se They don't want me to. I mean, there's no there's nothing else I can do. He only has two hips to replace. You can't trace one more. Why you give me away my hip a protective medical information? That's not very fair. Oh God, we can't hear Pete. We can't hear you, Pete. It's awesome. The greatest shows, the best fifty minutes in an Oh

he's back, dang it. You say it all the time, every one of your replacement. No, we replacement you haven't had yet. Think you need replace lobotomy or something, right, I mean spirited. According to Tony, you are Why why would you say such a thing. It's true? How so why I think pizza nice? Nice man? He takes cheap shots at me, more cheap shots at me than anybody. You take more cheap shots and everybody, come to think

of it. Whatever, you could be standing in like in the press box talking to Tony and somebody will walk up and he immediately take a shot. And that's the best thing about you because you give it and you can take it. It's fun though, I mean, you can't take a little bit of jabbing. It can't give it out? What's life all about? The best part? But I liked it.

I liked I like this team in Houston. I'm not sure why I'm saying this right now, but in my gut, like I didn't feel good about yesterday, I thought it was a man. It's worried about it. I'm telling you right now, take it to the bank. They're winning in Houston. Lock it down. In fact, it's a lock. It's done. So that means that Jaguars will be one and one,

and that would go back to your earlier lock. After that, Tony that the Jags would finally knock off the Titans twice in a season, so that would mean they don't have to beat them the first time in the season. I'll tell you one thing the week. The Titans have never seen a player like Minshew that that mustache. I mean no, I mean I'm telling you they haven't seen it. I have not seen that before. And it'll be his third game. He's gonna getting a rhythm play. I like it.

I'm starting to talk myself into this. We just go through the whole schedule here, Pete, and see what we get out of Tony done. Let's see, we'll probably get to twelve and four. He's going, Well, I'm always saying the Titans is I have to because I locked it. I'll be honest with you. So there're two and one and coming out of that, I gotta be honestly. Did they go to Denver Week four? High? A lot of altitude there. I worry about that Denver? Is Are they

that good? Though? Defensively they're pretty good? Alright, So what are you saying? Loss? No, I'm not doing this right now when I don't come through the whole schedule. You got him at two two after Denver, go ahead, all right? At Carolina done, yes, or three home against the Saints, three and three at the Bengals victory. They played pretty good yesterday nothing dalton A four and three home against the Jets, five and three, four Houston Texans at home,

six and three. That's that's in London right now. You got a quarterback controversy and yeah, that that's that's the home game in London. Of course we never lose there and then actually they did last year until year by week and then Indianapolis week eleven. Could be fools coming back at the Colts. Well, I'm only going I only go to weeks. I'm only going to the week nine, six and three. You got him to six and three

and a quarterback controversy. Oh god, what everybody in town, we ask you a question, why the heck did they pay Nick Foles when they they get gardamentship and all seriousness. I don't feel good about the Titans. I locked that early. I try to tell you, I know now you're now you're backing off of it, right, I'm trying. I can't though, it's a it's a the key is gone. I can't find. All I know is when we did this a while back, as they've won six of the last sevens. Me the

bad lock, I hate the Titans. My emotions got the best of me. Um. I think I do feel good about this weekend. I think they're gonna beat the Texans, and well, that's what. They don't beat the Texans, they're in trouble. I'm worried. I mean, the Cowboys were owing two and ninety four and went to Super But schedule that he's playing Tony You just called him the Cowboys and what what in the world? Oh? Sorry, what is going on? Pete? The schedule that he that means she's

gonna have to play, that's brutal. I actually he can't even take him so serious. So so falls is likely going to be back the tenth game of the year, right, the indie game. Yes, well, and we'll see, yes, see how it goes. I realistically think that Jacks would get the four and five, five and four somewhere in there.

I think that's realistic. I got a chance at that. Yeah, I gotta see better defense before I can even make Well, I'm assuming, Pete, I'm assuming the defense is gonna be who we thought they were right, they thought they were then, yeah they could be. That would be that if if this defense that we saw Sunday shows up, they'll be there. Oh nine, bye bye. I mean, let's just let that sink in. Oh and nine, that defense shows up. Nine In the first two weeks of the season, they're playing

the two quarterbacks they passed on to take line four. Net. Oh, you had to bring that up. Appreciate that s in the wound. Real nice, real nice. I mean, I'm just saying facts. Well, trust me, we hear every week from Logoman that they could have picked pick Patrick home for the last two years. Can't say I know he did. Were generational, he's in general. I can't. I can't do it. I can't do it. Hey, let's come back. You know what we need for this show, some social questions. We've

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and seven APR. With the teenager down with a group credit FID the subject prior sail plus tax tagline fees. We're at Jaguars Happy Hour after a forty six loss for the Jags to the Kansas City Chiefs in Week one, j P Shadrick Tony was silly and Jacksonville Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Glad you're with us for the first regular season edition of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday. Tony's already locking wins only one? Only one? Oh no, I'm taking about I found the key. I found the

key for the Titans. Locked. It's unlocked. You're unlocking the Titans game. So okay, you're doing exactly what we just said you shouldn't do. You're basing that on what they did yesterday against the Browns. It's locked, it's locked. I'm not going back. Sorry, I'm sorry, Thank you very much. Is that an unlocking or a lock? It's locked, it's long. It was the wrong key. The key is in the trash. Let's go to our social questions. You know this used

to be the Tony Vaselli Twitter our. It was much better back then, but now we're just taking social questions for everybody. How about that number one? Uh? Chuck Tribu on Twitter asking what was this was the success of our receivers and gardners something we can expect more or was it more about the Chief's bad defense. Well, the Chiefs are not great defensive, or at least they weren't last year. Um, And so you wonder is it a carryover from what they were new coordinators Bagnola a a

lot of new parts and pieces. But I want to I tend to lean towards I gotta give d Filippo and the offensive coaches a lot of credit. And the receivers did a very good job. Um. All three had nice days. The line protected for net ran well. Uh. She had a two way threat run and pass game. And the Rikie quarterback we've talked about had a nice day. So uh, great game plan. Uh. And I thought D. Filippo and the entire staff handled the situation really well

when falls went down. I agree they you know why they let him Now they were behind, but they let him play quarterback. A lot of times in that situation. They don't let a guy go in and play quarterback. Then he gets an obvious passing situations and he gets blasted on third and long or second and long. So I thought they did a nice job of that. Second question from at Mass Serragosa. Do you think the defensive problems were primarily a reflection of not playing in the

preseason and Kansas City's offense did Uh. I think that had something to do with it, and I think it was guys making not making plays, bad angles, bad tackling, mr assignments. Um. Now, I think some of the missed tackling comes from not playing and not tackling. It was the first time they tackled all year, pretty much since last season, so the first time they tackled, So not

playing the preseason I think does hurt you a little bit. Um. I'm not gonna repeat what I've said in the past, but I guess I will because I think you should play in the preseason. I think at least some time, a little more time than they got is important. What they got what they got a quarter, They got a quarter, four drives each plays about Yeah, they needed to play

more than that they played. They had a bunch of The ironic thing is too is the fear is to play guys in the preseason because you don't want guys get hurt when the first quarter your quarterback goes down. You can't. I mean, this is football. That's what Fred Taylor said in the post game, it's a contact sport. I texted, I was listening to you guys on the way home, and I text Fred right when he said that, and I said, the quote was, you are dead on.

You nailed the Fred, because that's right. You can't. At some point. You gotta go play football, and you gotta play. You guys had physical practices and you were playing. Were you more prepared to play in week one? Then maybe later in your career when you didn't have the physical practices and the and the not playing in the preseason? Right? We always played the I played in every preseason, but you got cut as you got older. It got caught down that Tom, you always remember back those days. You

played until halftime of the third preseason game. The third preseason you went to halftime and he had to come out and do a drive because we make sure we understood how to play in the second half. So no, I don't think you need that much. But I think about the head coach. I do nothing in the first preseason game, quarter and a half in the second preseason game, a half in the third preseason game, nothing in the fourth preseason game. I think that's how I would do.

And Tony you know you touch of tackling, angles, speed, it's all part of it when you get to a real game that you don't have. You haven't had that like especially if you angle wasn't bad up. I don't know, he's flailing. I couldn't figure it out and trying to figure out still was he trying to blast him? I don't know if he would be great if he tried to. It was like he was trying to make a play on the ball, but he was three yards late. Yeah, I don't know what he was doing. Third social question

from at Unique Jacks fan. Is Sammy Watkins an explosive wide receiver and did Myles Jack act like a captain should act? Well, that's two questions, not one. I think the first one is a little bit of a reference to Jeff Lockman's comments on the pregame show. Yeah, Loggs was under playing Sammy Watkins and then went out and put almost twenty yards up. Log said, Sammy Watkins can just run straight ahead and it's just the okay receiver.

He juked everybody juked over safeties multiple times. Duke or all pro corner, I mean duked a lot of people he was picking guys ninety yards receiving three touchdowns. I think he had a good day. And no, that's not how a captain should act. And I think Miles knows that when we're not we don't need to discuss anymore. He apologized, Hey, the thing of Sammy Watkins is can he stay on the field? Yeah? Tell me right, that can stay on the field when he's healthy. No. I

don't think very many people besides Jeff Logan questioned his ability. No, and I think that's I mean fairness to Logs. He's not here to defend himself. He was basically saying, throughout his career, he has not been consistent, and he's even when he's played, he hasn't been consistent. And then what happens the next So now let's see. But they are moving him around. That's fair and he didn't do in the past, and that's that's gonna help him become a

better player. I joke a lot about Logs and him and I go back and forth, but I want to make sure not to mischaracterize. He was not saying Sammy Watkins is not a good player. He just didn't live up to being the number one guy. Consistently that he's an up and down player. Well, he's not the number one guy yesterday he was, he will be for the next few weeks. It sounds like Garry Kill just flew

home today. Yeah, he had to stay overnight. Let's go to our next social question from that young BASSELLI I don't know who not related to you. I don't think my question can I Can I hang out with you guys in Miami before Gardner minshe wins us the super Bowl? You know you might want to hang You might want to hang out with us after Gardner minshe wins us the super Bowl. The real Tony, We'll meet you at South Beach, young Massell. Pete will be there too. Pete

hangs at South Beach all the time. Yeah, I'm the old man in the club. Stayed out till four am. Huh I get never. I couldn't make it to two way am. Are you kidding me? A lot of fist pumping doing all that stuff when the last time you made it to four am? Just out of curiosity? Who are you asking? Oh uh um, no comment, Tony, no comment, Pete, no comment. Next next social question, Terence Silly was clearly

right leading up to the game. Jalen Ramsey should have covered Sammy Watkins man the man when Tyree Hill went out due to injury. Why do you think Todd wash did not have Jalen travel with Sammy? It's I it's a fair question. He followed McCole Harding, Hardy or Harding, thank you Micole Hardman. He followed the rookie from Georgia or Marcus Robinson number eleven. Um, I'm not sure why

he didn't. Now he did cover them. They I think that what they ended up doing when they went more right and left, it felt like, uh, Jalen was on Sammy Watkins for the last touchdown he scored the quick out. It was act a good coverage, was a good play two good football players bad off a little bit. He did push off. I mean it was a good it was a bang bang play. Those type of plays I never get on the player. I mean, two guys competing,

that's fine. Um, But I when Tyreek Hill went out, Jeff and I talked about in the booth, I would either put Jalen on Travis Kelsey or Sammy Watkins and try to take one of those guys out because that's who was killing you Me too, me too. You know. Then there's the old theory of um you know, like you talked about last week to Belichick theory, you take away, put the other guys on the other guy, and you put him on the lesser player. Well, they didn't do

that though, they started him on Tyreek Hill. I know. I'm just saying there's also that theory. I know. But Pete, they didn't do that theory. I get it. So you're saying you should have been on Watkins the whole time after Hill it out Watkins or Kelsey. I've been fine with him taking away Kelsey too, because both of them were a problem. Alright, final social red Yeah, they are very There's a lot of players that choose from in Kansas City. Is Kansas Kansas City have the best skill

set players in the NFL. As a group, well, I mean, the running back situation isn't great, right, It's not a star runner in that group, but the McCoy looked pretty good. Damian Williams is not bad. But if you put them all together, Shandy McCoy, Dami Williams, those your backs, Kelsey your tight end, Kelsey's you're tying and Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill, you're one of two receivers. Yeah, it's pretty dark. Homes is the quarterback. Who else would you put up there?

About the Rams? Goss's not as good. Ash is better than the running back. Girl is better. They're tight ends, not better than Kelsey. No, the receivers are probably as good on the speed as a group, the three receivers, Cup Woods and uh and and uh yeah, Brandon Cooks, Yeah, they're better. About the Saints Michael Thomas Kamara, No, they're not. I'm tight end. Jared Cook Jared Cook, Yeah, but not

he's not Travis Kelsey. No, that's the problem. No, but my point is even Watkins now the third to Marcus Robinson or Harden Harding, Hard Hardman, whatever his name was. Hard, I don't care anymore until I have my Thursday night. I don't care what his name is. How about that? What's his first name? McCole, No, it's not it's McCole. Go look at the pronunciation, guy, Pete, JP, I've got it right here. Says it in here, McCole McCole, Thank you,

bam much. Cole Hardman, McCole Harman, not Mi. Cole Pete, You're wrong how do you say the backup swing tackle for the Jaguars? What's his name? Final social question at Rachel f l A. Are the Jaguars cursed? No? I don't. I don't believe that. No, I don't believe that. I don't believe any of that stuff. You're kidding me? How are they cursed? Pete? If you wonder, I mean, look at all this stuff, that's you know what it is. It's the R. J. Soward curse. This franchise has never

been the same. Yeah, I don't believe any of that. It's stupid. Think about it. Let's go through the laundry list of wide receivers that they've taken in the first round and see what happened to those guys. Yeah, you can go and do that. I still don't think it's I don't want to many. There are a lot of things you can look at and say, I mean, it probably happens in a lot of studies, But there are a lot of things you can look at and say, hmm, makes you wonder. I think it's the Tony Boselli curse.

After he wasn't after he wasn't the same anymore, they dumped him and he put a curse on him. Yeah, what it is? You guys might want to come apologize. Did you get paid out of the deal? Pete, I don't want. I don't want to talk about the curse that I put on, that I've employed, that I don't believe in. It's all. All the cursed stuff is nonsense. There's no curse on games. Stupid. That's the Cubs. They'll

tell you, because they stunk. That's the stunk. You did have to look at it, say, I mean, you signed a quarterback is supposedly gonna in the first quarter, he's gone. It wasn't. He wasn't the problem, Pete. No, But I'm saying, though, I mean, you pay this guy all the money because he's your quarterback and he's gonna finally get him to where they need to go. The first quarter he's gone. Okay.

My guess is the Rams were thinking of that too, with Trenton Green and the preseason when they looked like they had the best team in Trent Green just signs a free agent and he blows his knees. That's right. Here we go for Miami. Speaking of this brings up an interesting top before we get a break here of some notable quarterback injuries early in seasons. And you gotta go back in two, right, I mean Bob Greasy was injured week five. Earl Morral comes in for most of

the season. They go UNDEFEATD ninety nine. You mentioned Trent Green injured in the preseason. Kurt Warner comes in, They win the Super Bowl by a foot two thousand eight. The Patriots, they go eleven and five, but they missed the playoffs when Brady was introduced. And that's the one that changed all the rules about going The biggest one is two thousand one or two when Bledsoe got hurt week four, Tom Brady came in. That's right, it doesn't matter.

It's the biggest change in quarterback. The one that is the best change is the Kurt Warner one because he never played before that, he ever played he was, I know, but Kurt Warner wasn't a rookie, either was Tom Brady. But yeah, you're right, but just say that again. You're right, Pete? How do you right? Thank you? How do you say? The backup tackles for the Jaguars name out? We're back, wow back in a moment you wanna keep going, Pete?

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office yesterday in Week one. You don't want your defense to play like that. The quarterback got hurt all that. I thought you were great, though, JP. I thought you had a great pregame show. I listened to the post game. You're shooting friend Dempsey. Outstanding job. You control what you can control stuff. That's what I control. So I thought I was fantastic. I thought you did a fine job. Thank you. Yesterday. You were a great analysis of all

the things that happened. The offensive line moves yesterday. You were right spot on on that I thought Joe. I thought Joe struggled a little bit, but it wasn't up there. I don't know, um, but hey, you know there's fifteen more games to go, so it's an early in the season for him too. It is. We're working with him. Remember, we'll sit down a little accountability talk us, you and I. We looked like the Patriots last night, so rolling from the start. How good is that team? Pete, he's not

bad kid? Oh sorry, oh good he Let's let's continue, um, they'll they're working to get feedback with us as we go around the national Football hege. We'll start with that one. I mean with the Patriots last night, three to three over the Steelers. This, I mean it was Tom Brady being Tom Brady and the rest of them doing what they do. A couple of shocking, shocking things to me, and I fell asleep at the end. It was over.

The Steeler's offense was terrible, nothing going or the or the Patriots defense is better than I thought they were gonna be. Josh Gordon is tutor and forty pounds. Wow, Like, let that sink in. He is two forty pounds as a wide receiver that is as almost as big as our tight ends. And he looked great. And I'm happy for him because I hope he just stays sober and it can beat it. I mean, and are adding Antonio Brown.

Maybe we'll see what do you mean? Maybe I'll believe it when he shows up on a practice field in that facility. Well, he signed a contract where they paid him five million official. I'm just I'm just saying, you know, like there was, we're saying that with the Raiders too. Oh he's back, He's gonna do this. You're gonna do that when he runs out of the tunnel with the Patriots? Is one. I So you don't think he's gonna play? I said, I'll believe it when I see it. I'm

asking you a question. So no, So you don't think you'll ever get on the field, I don't. I think there's a chance. I did say there's a chance we're all gonna get struck by lightning on because he was saying there's a chance. Um, but that Patriot team looked good and the Steelers look lost. But it's week one. No reason to overact, no reason, let's that move Earlier the day yesterday, the Rams over the Panthers and a thirty seven final score. Mccaffred was good for the Panthers.

Touchdowns on the draft? Was he in? Is that two years ago? Yeah? Him and Leonard Ford. But um here comes the Rams with with a nice win on the road. I mean the big stories there and I'm doing the Thursday night game Carolina Bucks. But the big story there is you know how is cam Newtons shoulder coming back after the surgery. He didn't throw anything down the field and he rushed for the fewest yards in his history, minus two. But McCaffrey's really good. The defense struggled at

times but played pretty well. They really the the run defense was not great. Girly had a really nice day, but Jared goff in the passing attack was not that he only threw for six Caroline has a chance. I love Christian McCaffrey. I hated him when he played at Stanford because he abused the Trojans. Uh, but he is such a good player. He had ten catches any one yards,

nineteen rushes hud you know he's uh. You know, there's been two backs in the history of the NFL, Roger Craig and Marshall Falk, that did a thousand yards rushing thousand yard receiving. A lot of people think this will be the year that Christie McCaffrey uh joins that group. Pete Prisco back with us down in South Florida. We're discussing the Rams Panthers game. Pete, you know it's weird about that game, the way they use girly how so they took him out on the goal line. Yeah, Brown

had the two touchdowns rushing. They got Fred Taylord. We were talking about Christi McCaffrey though. Pete he might be the third third guy ever joined Roger Craig and Marshall falk Is. Thousand yard receiver, thousand yards back. Yeah, he's got a real possibility. I mean he's a big time player. And you know, look the way the game is played now, Tony, you know they're gonna see more of those thousand thousand guys.

Don't you think that's that's gonna be the trend? How many guys can run routes like him from the running back position though Well, the concern with him wasn't his routes, though Tony, was his ability to run between the tackles. I think he's proven he can do that too. He does both really well. I got the Thursday night game then, uh, Panthers versus Bucks. I think the Panthers are gonna win pretty easily. I'm looking forward to seeing him, alright, the

Titans over the Browns forty three thirteen. The Browns or the darling of the off season around the league, and because I was so tired of hearing about the Browns, and my goodness, you would have thought Baker Mayfield had three m v ps and seven Super Bowl rings the way they talked about him this offseason. Well, what did I say? Until you learn how to win big games, close games, in the separate games, you can't trust these teams. They can talk to talk all they want. And here's

the other thing, Tony. Their offensive line stinks. Yeah, and that's hard to cover up what you want and all the playmakers and a quarterback and everything else and pass rushers. Their offensive line is bad. And the Titans kicked there you know what's all over the place. I mean just physically. And Pete, I've said it for a couple of years now, Mike Rabel, that team plays with his attitude or I mean, I guess last year is a tough, physical, just get it done type of group. There are two teams like

that in my mind. The Bills are the other one. Yeah, they got they fought out a U fought out a win against the Jets, and uh, the poor kicker ved Vic might be looking for his next third, fourth team whatever it is. Miss next point? When you play Buffalo Bills, don't you agree when you watch him? You saw him in a plot postseason when they beat him. But team plays hard, tough, physical team. Ye yep. The Baltimore Ravens

smashed the Dolphins fifty nine to ten. And now the talk of a mutiny in Miami, Pete, where are you going? You're playing, it's your job. Where are you going? You know that that reeks of Rosenhouse by the way, Um, you know Pro Football Talk report reported that. And he's very close with Rosenhaus. That means one of Rosenhouse's clients probably called him and said, hey, look um, you know my guy's not happy and once out and he called

a couple of other agents. That's really that came. Look, a lot of those guys are lucky to be in the league. That's how bad that team is. Where they going? Well, the bigger story is is it true? Pete? You're an insider. I want you to either confirm or deny this. Are they already shaping the bust for the mar Jackson and Camp. Yes they are. After one game. He is already getting a bust made. And it's unbelievablecause he played against air. He had more resistance on the practice field than he

did yesterday. I mean it was a seven on seven. Drow was awful. You go back and watch the game. Guys are wide open now. He made a couple of really nice throws. But if you got on Twitter yesterday and just fell out, and it's got on Twitter last night, you think that the kid was destined for the Hall of thing. They forgot about the last game. Somewhere between what he did on Sunday and what he did in his last game against Gus Bradley and the Chargers is

probably who he is. Right, We'll wait and see. I mean, I will say this. I did that Charger game last year in the playoffs and he was bad. I watched him in camp when we went to practice, and I was shocked. How much better like the whole throwing motion, the accuracy, how much better he threw the ball. I mean, it was shocking to me. And I didn't see the game yesterday, but I'm I'm anxious to see what he is. He's a great athlete and they love him up, their

natural leader. So we'll see. So should the Jaguars have picked him? Overtabn by it? It's an evil laugh because you know why, I'm laughing more at Tony's response than I am at the actual question. Next question, cross fire. Let's go cross fire, go fast, Vikings over the Falcons. Cook ran for a hundred eleven and two touchdowns for the Vikes in a win twelve. Listen, I think the Vikings, if Dalvin Cook stays healthy, are gonna be a really

good team. He is another back like we were talking about Christian McCaffrey, who's a space player, good out of the back, feel good hands, elusive, make people miss type of back. If he could stay healthy, that's the book that was the problem with them, you know. I think even coming out of Florida State, they had the nagging hamstring injury, blew his knee out, uh two years ago his rookie year. If I love the guy, watched him at f s U. I think he's really special back.

And that defense center Mike Zimmer is gonna be good. You know that they're gonna be tough. Yeah, I I picked al the Cook the lead the league in rushing. That's what I think of him. I think he's special, perfect for that scheme, to that zone scheme. Um, you know they got the little center Tony here from your your kids old school at NC State, Bradbury. Good player, a player, but they're little. They're small. I mean that's a small line. So but the way they play, you know,

the old Broncos line. They cut you on the back side and he runs. He's perfect for that scheme. They play the Packers this week, though we'll know more about them. The Redskins had a seventeen nothing lead over the Eagles and then Carson Wentz leads a comeback seven final Eagles get to win at home against the Skins. And the funny thing is they lose a tough game, a game they had under control. And all you hear at the Washington A Pete is players mad that Adrian Peterson was deactivated.

Who cares, he doesn't play special teams. Of course he was the activated. He's gonna play this week because Darius Guys has another knee injury. M another one, not an a one, but it's the other knee. Heard his other knee. Eagles are the best team in the NFC East. I mean I thought that going in now, the Cowboys look pretty good yesterday. It's early. We'll see, but I like that Eagles team overtime game. Charger is gonna thirty win over the Colts. Philip Rivers three touchdowns, Ekela had the

seven yard runner o t to win it. That was a game the Charges. You have complete control and a couple turnovers. Interception end zone interception that Malee Hooker made that was a trot. Rivers was late in the middle of the field and he came across the field and picked it off. They were going to go up by four tea. Yeah, it was a couple of just but give the Colts credit. Everyone said they were dead after

Andrew Luck. I think it's a very good roster. I think what they've done have they built the roster, they built it the right way. I think Jacoby Burt's better than people think they're they're gonna have yesterday because they have an offensive line. Pete, Yeah, we got offensive line the Colts. This NFC South is gonna be a barnburner because every team has strengths weaknesses. I think it's very close. The Cults will be in it. Until the end. All right,

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for all your tailgating needs. As we probably support the Jaguars this season. Stuy Mart saving is a beautiful thing. Home stretcher Jaguar is happy. Our j P Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Brisco glad you with us. Jacks fell yesterday forty six in Week one. Tony is guaranteed to win in Week two in Houston before Houston has even played a game. Why wouldn't I We'll get money. Yes, let's finish our look around week one. I'm not scared like Pete. Wow. No response from Let's finish our Week

one recap. Seahawks over the Bengals twenty one to twenty in Seattle yesterday. Russell Wilson a couple of touchdowns, was outstanding. John Ross had a big day finally after being a high first round pick. But see, I don't have some problems moving the football at times. Russell Wilson got beat up a little bit. The front got after him, and I'm not sure how good Seattle is. Watch out next week. Seat,

I was gonna go to Pittsburgh get beat out. I think, well, Pittsburgh better figure out a way to get a win because they stunk last night. We're terrible last night. Yeah, I don't think the Bengals are gonna be as bad as everyone thinks. It looks like I don't either. I'm with you. Did you have that as a Jaguar's win? We're not going that far. You did have it? I pulled back, pulled back. Lions and Cardinals tied seven. Did

you see Stafford's throwing overtime late. Oh my goodness, it should have been Oh my god, he got with that one man, I tell you what, it was bad. And then I'm fourth down you guys, you guys didn't give a chance to see the game. But down in overtime. I saw it before they called time out. They threw a little past to the sideline. If the guy drops it, the Cardinals are kicking a winning game winning field goal. What are they doing? What are you doing? I don't

get it? What even close? Is Matt Stafford elite? I don't think so. He's getting paid elite, so is everybody else in Louis. He's not elite. Cowboys over the Giants seventeen and guess what, Hey, everything's all right and big deal of a sudden. Well, the Giants aren't very good. Let's just on defense at all, that's very good. They're terrible and the Giant and listen to the Cowboys are gonna I mean, Amari Cooper was a great trade yesterday.

Dak Prescott's playing good obviously, Ezekie. They got a big offensive line winnings back. I mean that's a pretty good offense, and defensively they got a bunch of guys who can play football. That's a good football team. Them and the Eagles are gonna be fun to watch this season. The Giants outside take Kwon Berkley. What do you got nothing? There's nothing there. It's a bad team, man team. Niners

over the Bucketeers thirty one to seventeen. Let's see Jimmy Garoppolo touchdown and pick eighteen and twenty seven passing the winning result. You're buying Garoppolo, Pete, I'm worried about him. I'm a little worried about him. I mean, look, the defense won the game. They had two pick six is Jamis Switz to turn the ball over? But I'm a little worried about Jimmy Garoppolo. The jury is still out on him for sure. How long does Jami's keep that

quarterback job in Tampa? Where you gonna go? What are you gonna do? It was but that was bad. You cannot turn the ball over like that. But that's the Isn't that the way he is all the time? Tony, That's what he does. That's my point. How long is Arian's gonna put up with it? I don't know who's the back, Who's arians thinks you can fix everything, though, you know that who's the backup? Pete Griffin stinks Blaine Blamee's not there. Blaine got hurt. Remember that's right, it's tough.

I mean, you're not gonna bench James for Blaine Gatherer if he keeps on doing three picks, you are. And that was the one knock, you know, Dirk always told him, you can't turn it over. They dirt it over. Of course earlier we mentioned before when we had Pete away, we mentioned the Patriots win over the Steelers and the beat goes on, right, best coach team, they plugging guys, the best offensive line coach, They plugging guys, they get defend,

They get Jamie Collins back. He was terrible in Cleveland. He comes back there and he makes plays all over the field. The car wash washes the stink off them all it's outside the facility. Is it gonna continue with Brown? Are they going to clean him up to didn't watch the stink off Alberd Haysworth. Yeah, but they got rid of him right away too. What's that They just get rid of guys if they don't, if they don't, if they don't, if they don't get in line, they don't conform,

They're gone right. It's time for Monday Night football. It's a double header to open the twenty nine team campaign. Does Shaun Watson in the Houston Texans visit the superdomin New Orleans to see a team still fuming over last year's playoff non pass interference call? Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints. Who you've got in game one? Go first beat? What do you think? What do you think? Tony fuming? He added, fuming to that one today? Like,

I like New Orleans. I think the Saints are going to the Super Bowl, So I like, I think the Saints are gonna blow them out tonight. I think they win by twelve, by twelve, I'm gonna I'm I'll take one thank you game to Joe Flacco gets his first steps with the Denver Broncos. They'll visit the Antonio Brown free Oakland Raiders and Derek Carr had two preseason passes. Who you got in the black hole? I like the Broncos. I think there's too much noise in Oakland. There's too

many distractions. The Broncos go and win that game. I'm with you, Tony. I think the Broncos win. I think their defense is gonna be good. I think Bradley Chubb is going to be a star opposite Von Miller. They get after the quarterback. Are our offense is gonna struggle tonight since they didn't play really, I don't think Drew Brees' offense is gonna struggle. I'm talking about in the second game. Um yeah, probably, Yeah, I do think they'll struggle. They

had an extra game to the Broncos. Remember that's right, all right, guys, great show. People, talk to you next time. Pete Briscoe's senior writer. I did CBS Sports. That's Tony Boselli, Pride of the Jaguars. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortunato, print Reaber. We'll catch you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network

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