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and move forward to Cincinnati. We're on to Cincinnati. Defensive adjustments are needed, certainly early in the game for the Jags, who are down. They gave up three touchdowns the first three drives from Miami. The offense has been playing catch up because of that. We'll get to socials in the second hour and we'll go around the National Football League and here we go, guys, Pete, I must say, this must be what every Sunday is like for you watching

all these different games around the league. I mean, I'm usually sitting here watching the Jags and have red zone on, but not really watching it yesterday, flipping around all the different games, sitting at the house. That's pretty neat, man, it's a real neat. But you know what's keeping up with all the scoring can't be hard the way these defenses are playing, right, God, up and down, up and down, up and down the entire day. But I love it, you know, I mean, I love offensive football, but I

think these defenses are terrible. Right. Do you think the defenses catch up sooner or later? Pete didn't we say this though on the show. We thought there would be a lot of points early the season because nobody tackled in the angles and you know that whole thing. I thought there'd be a lot of points. Do they catch up? I don't know, Tony. Are the quarterbacks that good? Now? The quarterbacks that good? The rules favor them to that

much of an advantage? Well, I think the rules the quarterbacks being not just good throwers of the ball, but so athletic and put so much stress on the defense. I think it's really hard to defend um. I also think they do catch up a little bit. I think the tackling is just atrocious. And I watched I'm doing the Ravens Chiefs game tonight and watching the Chiefs try to tackle um the Chargers an. I mean it was

like the worst tackling ever seen. The Falcons terrible in the second The Falcons tackling was terrible in the fourth quarter. And you know the Jagboards didn't tackle great the other day either. Yeah, I mean I think they do catch up a little bit, um, but I still think I mean the era of great defenses, you know, um where it's you know, winning games ten to seven. I mean that's over. I mean that that's never coming back. You hold the team that if you hold the team at ten,

bould you like it, it's like a shutout back. I mean because just talking about this game with them doing the cheese, I watched the Chargers Chiefs and they held the Chiefs to twenty points in regulation, and it was like I thought I was watchings. I mean, it was like, oh my gosh, my homes only points. Um, I still lost in overtime by three. But yeah, it's it's so hard to defend people right now. All right, well, let's

speaking of defense. Let's start with the the Tag Wars defensive performance this past Thursday night against the Miami Dolphins. Another slow start. Three consecutive touchdown drives to start the game. Well, it took the Dolphins a little longer to get down the field this time than it did the previous two weeks. In weeks one and two, they were quick strike touchdowns

to start the game for the opponents. Twelve play drive and just under seven minutes of six play drive three minutes and change, and then an eleven play drive in over seven minutes. So the Dolphins dominated time of possession. And that's a that doesn't give your offense many opportunities to bounce back feet when when you're giving up the long drives like that and they're all kept off with touchdowns.

This is a trend, though, It's got to stop for the Jags to to really have a chance moving ahead here. How does it stop? You're not any good on defense, I mean, let's be honest about it. That's not a good We thought they'd be a bad defense, at least I didn't. I know, Tony do you didn't think they'd be a good defense either. And you you have all those guys that you know opted out or the couple of guys one opted out, one was sick um. Would they have made that much of a difference to this team.

Who knows. I doubt it. You have young secondary, you have a rookie corner who's a good player. He's gonna be a really good player. But he got towards the other night. That's what's gonna happen. The line back. I think Jack and Schober are fine. I think if you had people in front of him to keep them clean, they'd be they'd be more than adequate. Uh, you can't rush the passer. You're not big in the middle. You can't push the pocket in the middle. Chason got pushed

around in the run game. I mean, there's a lot of things that aren't working. Not a good defense right now. Well, Pete, I mean, um, yeah, you're right. Uh overall, I think I mean, I think Miles Jack's played really good. I mean, but if you go, I mean, if we're honest, I mean, you go, let's just go with have a three game

sample now, still early. You know, I really think you start understanding who a team is and get a good sense of it, you know, game four through eight, like you know five through eight, then that second quarter, like you really get a sense of kind of war your head. But if you look at the first three games, UM, the Colts never punted, never punted the entire game. It took just two awful throws by Philip Rivers, which I'm still trying to figure out what he was looking at,

UM to get them out of the field. The Titans scored thirty three points and punted zero times in the first half. I'm not mistaken. Maybe once and a couple of times in the second half, but you really never You did a great job against Derrick Henry. UM. But if you watch the Titans play now after three weeks, that's a team built around Tanny Hill as much as anything right now. I mean, Derreck Kenry is still the

power runner and they they'll go to when they need to. UM. But you look at it even last week against the Vikings, the chunkyardage. When they got back in that game, they started slinging around and they're doing it without a J. Brown, who probably is their best wide receiver. UM. And so he lost that game. But you gave up thirty three

points just just like not stop, let's not forget. And then you look at the Dolphins, who never even thought about punting in the first half until the last drive when you had to get a stop, so you don't go down seven. You did it. But this is not a good defense, and he's given no signs that it's a good defense. And I'm not saying it can't get better. It's still early. They have young players. You expect them to get better, but I wonder where the production is

gonna Like I like Josh Allen. I think Jason has a chance to be a good player in the future. He's learning a new position. Let's not forget he didn't play defensive end at L s U. A linebacker. Yeah, he's going to be a good player. Yeah. And I mean, guy about Tavid Bryan in his third year. He he is what he is. He's a he's a rotation guy, a past that's it. That's all he is. And that's fine. Adamson and so they're just hard try, hard effort player. Yeah.

And Abrey Jones run plugger. Hamilton's run plugger. They had no pressure from the middle. Nobody can provide any pressure in the middle of whatsoever is not very good And journey is gone. Um the journey you can go today. What's the rationale behind that? I don't think he was playing very well nobody's playing very well. So you got everybody player that they're gonna bring up. I don't know what their planet is. Who they add they added? Let me look at the practice squad again, but they added

somebody off the squad today. Yes, well I just I just noticed. Why are you wearing the coat and tie? We're just coating tie like you got. I can't barely see him on my screen. I had to we shoot a television show before this show, So look nice. Thanks, I appreciate that. Um. Yeah, so all except from the head up, you can't do much their Pete, but here I mean, yeah, okay, okay, glass houses there, Pete, careful, but Pete and j P. Here's the reality of this team,

if we're honest. Um, everyone got way too excited after you know, week one and week two, and you can say you did You did too, Pete, eleven and five, you did well. That was what I said there eleven and five before the season ever started. I never backed away from my five and eleven, And I don't think they're getting the five um stop stopped of his prs. So but it's a it's a young team, and and it's a team that we said this year. The most important thing is to figure out do you have a

quarterback or not? Is he the guy that you can build around? And we're three games in and after two games, everyone locally, national media, I mean everyone was like, he's the guy. My comments to everyone when I would get asked, is he a franchise quarterback? And my answer has been consistent the entire time. I don't know, and I don't have to make the decision right now. And that's why you play sixteen games, and you want him to be able to play sixteen games so you can get a

good feeling for what he is. Because at the end of at the end of this year, you think about it, he'll have twelve starts under his belt from last year and hopefully sixteen starts. Unders about this year, it's twenty eight starts. You should have an idea and know whether you're gonna build around the guy or not. I bet you're leaning more towards no now than you were a week ago. Where do you say, Pete, I'm leaning more or no, I'm actually this is the same as theact

spot I was last week. You asked me last week, I said, you know, I don't know. I mean he does a lot of really good things. I like, UM. I thought he digressed in his pocket presence. I thought he was really poor in the first half. UM in the second half, especially the last in the last quarter of the fourth quarter, he was getting killed. I don't think the offensive line after Cambra Hobinson went out played very well in these passing only you know, obvious situations.

They struggled before that. I thought the pocket was fine, but he continues not to drive the ball down the field consistently. UM, And he is very uh at times. And I don't know why he looks uncomfortable in the pocket when he has a clean pocket. There's like after one Mississippi to Mississippi three, like two and a half Mississippi, it's like, I gotta go, It's time to go, and I gotta get out here. It's almost like he doesn't

see or something. I don't know. But but Tony the first I think it was the first third down of the game, he tried to throw short in the flat to a guy on the right side, and he had the receive, were clearing on the next level and didn't even try and take the shot. Didn't even try it. That guy was open you gotta take that shot. That's a that's an eighteen yard twenty yard completion. That's my concern when it comes to the quarterback, that's the concern. Now.

In fairness to him, though he had two big drops and this team is not good enough. You know, we were talking about this morning, Um Chris Connedy drops that third down conversion on Like, what what happens if he catches that and they go down to score? Is it a different game? Very well? You know, you like you compare, like you look at Seattle yesterday and DJ Metcalf. You he blows a touchdown, but it doesn't matter for the Seahawks because they got Russell Wilson. They're gonna go score

another five touchdowns somehow. This is a team that cannot afford. They're not good enough not to take advantage of those opportunities. And I think what we saw in the first two weeks offensively, they took they took advantage of every one of those opportunities. They didn't have any of those steaks really outside of you know, maybe an interception that was a poor throw by Minshew and after the review wasn't even a bad throw. He just was you know, miscommunication

who he was throwing it too. So I think it's the reality is it's the team that doesn't have a lot of margin for air on either side of the ball. They have to do things really well. They're young, and there's questions about some of the I think where you have talent where you don't, and it's gonna be a season of ups and downs if we're honest with each other. And he didn't have chart. In fairness to him, he

did not have his number one wide receiver. But here's the thing, Pete, I get that, and that's fine, but this this links played without the number one guy a lot of times. And guess what all I heard and all we talked about is how great these young receivers are. Well that if you really have a great room, losing one guy does stay your number one guy? Though, Okay, I mean Atlanta scored some point yesterday and move the ball down and didn't play that well yesterday without Julio Jones.

He did a really order. He threw the rid under what t winter yards in total passing off. Then he threw the ridley fifteen times and the numbers didn't reflect that. Look at the Saints without Michael Thomas. Is that the same passing offense? They dunked it down all night. The Packers still never stop them, Well they don't. First of all, they dunk it down all the time, even when Michael Thomas isn't there. Yeah, okay, and Rogers, Hey, Alan Lazard, he was once in jack Bar. A bunch of former

Jags had days yesterday. By the way, Yeah we will. We'll get to that when we go around the league. By the way, Daniel Equality was promoted to the active roster from the practice squad defensive tackle. Uh. He was a free agent undrafted by Cleveland and eighteen. He was on the practice squad there last year. Played in seven games for the Browns and had four tackles. Washington State product,

he was promoted. Well, they better, They better hope he's a combination of Alan Page and Merlin Alton in their pride, because otherwise it won't matter. We're back at the moment. On that note, we'll take our first time out. Jon JP. I mean, Pete Presco is a bad person. Is no a kid aquality doesn't even have a chance to show him with what he can do, and he's putting all kinds of pressure on the Kenyon. I need somebody in the middle to do something, Jack Sign. We'll get to

this later. But everyone talking about the Bengals like, hey, let's get to two and two. It's for first you know, you know, good start to four games. If you don't rush, if you don't hit Joe Burrow yards he got hit, he got and he was hit eighteen in the game yesterday. We'll get to that. Still through this is no okay, this is no cake walking. Since nat we'll come back Jaguars Defense when we return. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented

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Damish made fresh dailies. It's a difficult position to play it because you know, you gotta play six something snaps full speed all the time really for a possibility of four plays, you know, and it's um you know, that type of mentality, and he has all the ability in the world, and we have all the competence in him, you know, and we're just gonna keep working with him and getting them better because he can be that guy that can you know, that can lock lock somebody down.

And you know, that's why we drafted him, said coach Doug Barone today discussing c J. Henderson Jaguar's first round traffic Cornerback and Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday Week four, I said to Cincinnati this week j P, Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli, glad you're along with us today on Tin ten a M and Jacksonville and Jaguars Facebook,

Jaguars Social channels, and Jaguars Dot Com. Yeah, c J. As you mentioned Pete earlier, it was, let's say, a tough night at the office for c. J. Henderson after he's had some good performances early in this season, especially week wality at the interception, uh five tackles that game with physical made some some physical plays really the first two weeks, but then Week three comes along Thursday night,

doesn't touch the guy down. I remember a play later in the game as well, where it was like third and two. It was a quick out to the right and he's five seven yards off. It was just overall not a great night for c J. And you know, how does he bounce back. How does a guy like this that has talent, that has drafted so high, how does he bounce back from a night like Thursday? He goes and play things right? I mean the first game

one game we've seen many a young cornerback get torched. Uh. You know, Jalen Ramsey, for as good as he supposedly was at his moments where he got torched. You can play a lot of man coverage and you and your young kids you're gonna get tord. Even if you're an older player, that a player, we're gonna get beat when you play man coverage just the way it is. Yeah, it's over. I think it was not a great night

for him. Um, but he plays. He plays a position where you're in you know, you're in the spotlight and you literally could play sixty snaps perfect and three have three bat snaps and everyone think you're in a bump. Um, I just refused me. I'll say it this way. C J. Henderson is not this defensive issue like he is right spot Like the fact that we're focused on him is a mistake. He's not the problem. No, he's not the problem, and he's gonna be a really good player. I'll be

honest with you. The one concern that I had with him was his tackling. And I think, aside from not touching down a guy in the first couple of weeks, has been he's been think about this and I said this on the broadcast, this would be a preseason game number three for the kid. Usually you guess what he just got done playing in high school and college football where you don't tag them down because they're down, like it's it's not the end of the world. It's one play.

Come on, we're making much of it. I agree, but he still should somebody should come on. I'm not saying you shouldn't know better, Pete, but if you're gonna kill this kid for that one player, that's stupid. Look isn't the mental lap. So I'm not killing him for the way he played. If you had a grade him on the way his career started so far, he's probably a B player. He's played to a B level right now. No, he's an A as a first round draft pick with

no preseason, the offseason, everything else. The way he's performed in the first three games. The first game he was very good, in the second game he was very good, and the third game he was a C plus. So it's a bat. He's a bat. No, no C plus, A plus plus. What's the point two? He's giving out grades on here like they gave out at USC when he was a studid pass pass um all right? Well, obviously, the big part of this defense, the the issue is a big issue is the lack of pass rush. Three

sacks is here. They only have a handful of quarterback hits in comparison to a lot of other defenses in the league. Now, part of that is they haven't had the lead except for five minutes this year. You've still gotta get home a little bit more than this one. Yeah, here's the issue I have is if you watch that game, it's not just that they weren't sacking them. They weren't even bumping into him. They weren't even like in his face. They weren't flashing. I just don't don't even remember. I

don't remember the five quarterback hits. I don't remember them. No either. He was sitting back there like stepping up like it was like seven on seven for him. It was ridiculous. And it's not like that was a good offensive line. So that's the big concern. Now they do they have two good? Those two good. Those rookies are gonna be good. Austin Jackson is a good kid and Keenly is going to be a good player. Yeah. I agree, but but again it's their third game. You just said

the same thing about you should have beat him. Someone should have been there, right, and Alan sack, by the way, one, really that's a sack. That's not a Sackay, So let's think about their sacks they have three sacks. One was an effort to play, one was a Miles Jack inside rush, and the other one was chased on wasn't he rushed?

That's right to beat sapphold. But that's it. So they have one sack where a defensive lineman slash pass rusher has beat the guy one And here, you know what, you got a chance this week because that offensive line I've seen him. I've seen him live, I saw him on tape and I'm gonna watch this tape again here so I'll see all three games. Um, they're not good,

like they're bad. Bobby Hart right tackle, he stakes. They have Jony Williams who's basically a rookie because he would missed all last year at left tackle, right and he's okay guard. The guards are no good, no, and the center's decent. He's not bad. He has a chance. But that's it. They should get right this week. Then what you're saying they need, they should they need. If they don't get four sacks and ten quarterback hits for eight quarterback hits, that's a it's a problem because Joe Burrow

and that's and they got skilled positions. Now they have five wide receivers who can threaten you, and they got Joe Mixing. If they don't get after them, it could be it could be not good. Well, what about the Cincinnati Bengals. Radio people are all probably sitting up there saying, off, your offensive line is gonna get right. This is the chance to get right there? All right? I said that this morning. Everyone everyone in Jackson said, oh good, the

Bengals with an easy schedules. You know what, Everyone in Cincinnati saying, we get our first win of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously yeah. They the Eagles sacked Burrow eight times and they hit him eighteen times in the game yesterday. It was bru I had it on one of my games on I'm watching the games and he was just getting brutalized and he's kid man does he doesn't flinch? How

about the Malik Jackson put on him? Malik Jackson lit him up one time with a penalty, but doesn't flinch, gets right back up there, stands in the pocket and and Tony, you know you talk about young quarterbacks and

pocket presents. He has it well. And there's no if you watch him, Pete, there's no bouncing around or just he stands tall, and I'm like, I remember watching him against Cleveland and I'm sitting there watching the whole game and the game before against the Chargers, and I'm going, at some point he's gonna get a little bit gun shot because he's getting hammered. And he just stood there and stood there and just it. It's really impressive. Very

it's gonna be a star. I'm already on records saying he's gonna win one or two Super Bowls in the next ten ten years. How about that. It's a lot of competition too, by the way. You know what's interesting about that too? About him, Um, he wasn't good enough to win the job at Ohio State, and his first year at l s U, everyone's like man man, fourth fifth rounder, and then he gets the right coaching, right system,

and he's a star. And know what, that's who he is, because that's what we're seeing so far, and and he has a chip on his shoulder. I'm telling you, you know me, I've been around. I talked to the guys, I've talked to him on the side, and I think I told you guys the story. I asked two uh at the Super Bowl, I said, if you had been healthy. Would you have come back around and won the national championship? And he went, I don't know. We can't say that,

you know. And I told Joe Burrow that story because I like a quarterback and says, hell, yeah, I would have. I told Joe Burrow that story and he goes yeah, and he goes, you do realize that we beat him when he was there? Right? Yeah? I mean that's the kind of kid he is. He's got the chip on his shoulder. Yeah, he's uh, never forget he's a good one.

They got their quarterback, now they've better. If the Bengals have half a brain, they'll go look at what happened to Andrew Luck his first four years and say, you know what, We're gonna spend the next two drafts. We're gonna get four offensive linement in the first two rounds each of those drafts. We're gonna build the best offensive linement line in the NFL because we have the kids. Or or you spend money to go get one or two,

but there's a young, young one available. You spend money ago get one, but you build you ropp into line around him. Yeah, like you wouldn't end on Bock the Aery because he's getting a little older. You want to die who six years old? Seven years old? That's what you try. You don't want to end up like Indie did with Andrew Luck and lacerated organs and yeah stuff, whatssell shoulders did that? David Carr, I'll take a lot

of stuff from me. You're not putting that on me. No, But if you had been there, you would, if you were healthy, you would. They would have had a better offensive line. But that's not the story that I hear. Anyways, they can talk all day one about his offensive line. He went home at five o'clocket. Well, let's not go down this cat. That's that's for the podcast. That's podcast. Pete is on fire tonight. I must say we're back in a moment. We'll have fliving around to the offensive side.

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do it in a one on one situation? And you know, we started doing some one on one pass protection um, you know, during training camp, and I was like, holy cow, I mean he's and I didn't realize how how good he was it really covering guy's up body and him up the strength and explosion he had. Then I kind of go back and I went back at the weight room stuff, and look at that. He's one of our

most explosive players. You know. I found out out you know what I'm saying during training camp, which what he can do as far as his lower body explos explosion. And then it was just a matter of you know, hey, listen to this guy's gonna be able to hold onto the football when he gets hit in the NFL. And I think that he's proven that. It's Doug Broone today discussing running back James Robinson, what a start that's been to his NFL career and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour,

j P, Shadrick, Pete, Frisco, Tony Boselli. Uh and yeah, let's flip it around here to the offensive side. And this has been a fantastic bright spot for the for the Jags so far this year. Robinson is the only undrafted player in NFL history to post at least three hundred scrimmage yards and multiple touchdowns through three games, and his scrimmage yardage total of three thirty nine is the most ever by an undrafted player through three games. I don't know if you could ask for much of a

better start than we've seen from James Robinson. Pete No, and again, you guys know my theory on running backs, you can find them anywhere. They found one. He's tough, he's physical, he can catch the football, he's a willing blocker in the passing game. What's not to like about the kid? He is their guy right now. He will

be there starting running back for a while. And you know what, they traded away Leonard Fournette, And granted there were other issues there, but they looked at this kid and they said he is what Leonard four Nette is not. He makes people miss uh. And he's a good kid around the locker room. And not that Leonardard. That was a bad guy. He just that he didn't fit with what they wanted to do. It makes all the sense in the world. I love the kid. I think he's

gonna be a big time runner. Well they yeah, well they didn't trade Leonard. They let him go. That's why I said they got rid of him. You said they traded. You said trade, Yeah, I mean I thought I expect more from a national person. But they got rid of They dumped them usually that's what. Yeah. The yeah, he's listen if you flash those stat's back up. The one thing that stands out you gotta get more touches in the run game. You only had eleven carries against the Dolphins.

Not part of that's because you're playing from behind, so it's hard to stick to the run. But everything Pete SAIDs right. He is. Uh, he's a good back. He can make you miss, he's good in space, he's you know, I think the only question you would have is is he a home run threat? You know we haven't seen him. You know, we've seen him make like the twenties thirty

yard run. You know that was the one knock I guess of him coming out was his forty time And I don't know what it was actually at the combine, but four or six they said, I think it was. Yeah, So I mean that was only but he has enough short area speed and quickness that he makes people miss and he whatever he ran at the combine, he plays faster than he ran. The home run. Was Emmett Smith at home run threat? Yeah, I think he was. I mean he had the ability to take because I don't

think his forty time was much better than that. What what did you say? He was JP four six four the combine. Yeah, that's slow. And I don't remember when emmt ran at to get the combine, but I don't it was four five something, remember, correct? But if you run four six at the combine and you play and you run four six with pads on, there's certain guys pet you know this, that whatever they run at the combine, they were just as fast or faster on the field

for whatever reason. And there's guys who can run four four at the combine and they get in the game and they put pads on there like a four seven, right, And I've seen received Emmett ran four seven? Is that possible. M hm No. Emmett in Gainesville at the Pro Day ran at four or five to take that. At the combine he ran four seven. Wow. Wow. Yeah, how about that? That's that's kind of who your minds you a little bit of is Emitt? I mean I'm not gonna say

he's Emmett Smith, but you know what I mean. No, I'm not saying. He put it on Twitter Twitter, Prescot is Kame Drumson is the next Smith. He's building the bus already for him. Put it out here. He runs like him a little bit. He said, he said he's at Smith tom Brady in the pocket, But I don't think he's tom Brady. Um. Yeah, he's listen. He was the bright spot of that game, without a doubt, and he's been, you know, one of the big bright spots

of this entire team in three games. I mean the fact that you found him undrafted and you go from thinking that Leonard Fournette was gonna play at his contract here to cutting him. I mean, let's not forget. I mean Leonard was about eighty percent of the offense last year. Year. Whole offense ran through him. You you get rid of him and you go to the undrafted guy. I don't think anyone could imagine it working out as well. And

it was go ahead. Remember it was real good. Good for him to have that game on national TV Thursday night, not people know who he is. Yeah, and remember last year the Jags had three rushing touchdowns all season, and Robinson has three through three games. So you can find I'm saying that's it's it's as good right now. Three and three is the same Tony, but he's off to a quicker pace. Let's say, once they get down there at least he can he can punch it in when

it's time to touch. Touchdown stats can be overrated at times to a little misleading. Yeah, but only three for the entire year. Yeah, that's not misleading at all. That's just not good. Um, and they were not good at that last year. Now, Gardner's game. We touched on this earlier as well, and obviously Week one nineteen it's twenty afficient as can be. H. Not a bad outing. Week two, you know, statistically at least a couple interceptions in the game.

But then on Thursday night interception no touchdowns, was playing catchup all game? What did you see at a gardener on Thursday night and is it concerning and can he bounce back? Or is this what Gardner is going to be? Kind of hot cold? As we move along feet what do you think? I think this is who he's going to be. I think you can look great for little spurts and look awful for others. That's who he is. He's inconsistent. He's a six round pick who's six ft tall,

doesn't have a big arm. I mean, what do you expect him to be? I mean what what could anybody legitimately expect him to be? To be the franchise quarterback? That's I mean, that's not happening. You know. It happened with a six round pick in New England. But he also happened to be six ft five and had a good strong arm. I mean, there are limitations to his game. And I look, you gotta love the kid for all moxie, the way he handles himself, being a professional. He plays hard,

he's competitive, but there are limitations. That's the reality of it, and you can't sometimes you just can't get over those limitations. Someone made the comparison to me, and I want to be your opinion on this. I'm not sure how where I land on it? As they said, Gardner Minshew is a young Ryan Fitzpatrick like he can get he can get hot for some games and then he will disappear for games and play poorly, really badly. And yeah, yeah that makes some sense. Smart quarterback knows where to go

with the football, doesn't always have the biggest arm. Yeah, I mean that's a decent comparison. I would say so, and and look that means he's gonna have a long career in the NFL, but he might not ever be the star that you need him to be. That's that's why when people say, have you decided if he's a franchise quarterback? If you think he's any way, shape or form Ryan Fitzpatrick, And I could remember the Bills thought

Ryan Fitzpatrick was their franchise quarterback. Remember they pay him, And at the time I thought that was a major mistake. Sometimes you get caught in situations where you are what you are and if I'm Jacksonville, I'm not sure he is going to be the guy that can lead me to where I need to go. Answer the question you need to ask yourself this tonty, and there aren't many of them. If everything is going bad, and the defense is playing bad, and the receivers aren't playing great, the

running game is not working. Is he a quarterback that can rise above it all and lead your team to a victory? Well, I look at it, and I say it differently, Pete. I always say you know you have your guy when you look at him and say he can lead us to a super Bowl and to lead a team to a super Bowl outside of the off her And I think it's more. I think it's even more imperative now because the way the game is constructed, in the rules that are around it. Um canna can

he take you? Like? Can you say he could take me to the super Bowl? Because they do that. There's all be moments during the season where he has to put you on the team on his back and like just rise above and get it done. And and I think that's the question. If I'm you know, Seoan Don and Dave Caldwell and Doug Marone, I'm that's the question I'm asking myself myself. Is he the guy that at the end of it I can see holding the Lobarti Trophy on the stage after winning a Super Bowl? Right?

I mean, Okay, let's say the Jets are asking themselves that question now with Sam Donald, aren't they? I mean, these are legitimate questions and and and no reason I bring up the Jets is they're probably gonna be were the worst. They're gonna probably not win a game this year. They're bad. And so now do the Jets now take Trevor Lawrence and take you out of that sweep stakes if you have a bad year and you can talk all you want Tony about oh well, you don't want

to take your head. You don't what yes you do, because if you get Trevor Lawrens, just like the Bengals now Joe Burrow, you will be set for a decade at least. So that matters. And that's why I don't know if he I'd lean more towards the know right now, because the guy, when you see him, you know it well, I mean to me, it sounds like you've already made the decision. He's not the guy I'm leading that way, And I don't want I didn't want to. I don't

want to. I like the kid. I think he's a good competitor and good player, but you know what the guy looks like? Okay, I'll give you one. Josh Allen. You knew he looked like that, and people said, oh, he can't do it. He won't do it. He's an agative when you can take what he had and turn it into what he is. The last fourteen games, thirty three touchdown, three picks for Josh Allen. Some people I know we're right about Josh Allen. Some people I wonder

who that is. That would be me. How about this scenario, What if Gardner it's better and they win eight games and they get in the playoffs somehow, and the defense plays better, like all of a sudden it's a playoff team or close to it or knocking on the door. Well, and that's what he's got a show in the next thirteen games. He's got to show that he could stand in the pocket and not leave because Tony's right, he's still doing it, and not start spinning around and feeling

herky jerky in the pocket. It's not just when he leaves the hrcy putting the ball in his hands like this. He does that a lot too. That is what it looks like. By the way, you know what I'm talking about. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a I mean, here's the thing. You don't have to decide right now though, in thirteen games. No, but you can start rooting against yourself. No, it's too well, you got you gotta winning eleven games and they better get on

a little run here. They're gonna get hot. Are you amending that? No? Too, But that means that that means you have to take another because that was one you had in the pocket. Let means you have to find the eleventh game somewhere else. Well, yeah, the Vikings, I'm picking that one back up because they're terrible. They're they're bad, they're bad. So there's one. I got one back right there. You're sticking to eleven. This is a muscle win though this week JP I think he's coming off of it.

This This is one where you have to have I'll be honest with you. If they don't win this week, I'm worried about the five that I said, who who's after the Bengals, the Texans and then they're terrible. They lost to the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Steelers. Yeah, they're owing three against three really good teams. We have one more win. We're better. The only thing that matters of the standing in the A s C. South and the Texans are last. Let's come back in a moment

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most of that time, most notably was with Seattle. He has a Super Bowl ring with the Seahawks, spent the last couple of three seasons with the Bills, and there's an eight six percent field goal kicker in his career, so he's on the active roster. The Jags also waived injured Brandon Wright, who injured his growing in his NFL debut Thursday night, and they've added Aldrich Rosas to the team's practice squad. So some kicking transactions today. Pete not

not ideal. Two more weeks for Josh Lambo at least on injured reserve, and Doug Marone said that he's recently come off crutches, so that was a little jarring to the ear today. Yeah, that's not a good thing whenever your kicker goes down. I mean the kickers. I'm a big believer that the kickers nowadays are better than they've ever been across and we've lost Pete. Will get back to him coming up, Tony, are you well? We lost Tony as well, so we'll get back to those guys

in a moment. Yeah. Two more weeks at least for Lambeau, and as I think Pete was about to allude to, their the kicking around the league is strong, really has been strong over the last couple of years, especially things getting better. Peter, are you back with us now? You gotta Yeah, we lost we lost you guys. Sorry, well, you might have hurt each other, but the folks listening did not hear you two. Sorry well, I was saying

that the kickers are better than they've ever been. So if you have a guy go down for a little period of time, you should have a decent kicker ready to step in and and and play. And the sad thing is that poor kid that they picked up NFL experience and he pulls a groin buzzle. I mean that was going to be his job for a while, right, what what's isn't that? What? Lambas to a groin? Hip? Hip injured? Okay? So different? Did he hurt that tackling somebody or something? But I don't remember him. Did he

get blocked or so? When? What did he hurt that hip? It was during that game that he kicked it into the line. I don't know if that was during that time, but it was that game, So I don't remember that. Should we go to our resident expert on hips? Not me, um, not even a smile. You got him on his shoulder earlier. Now you're the hips, You're just you're mean, You're a bad person. Um. But I mean that poor kid though, right? Is it an opportunity? I'm gonna be a kicker. Missed

the extra point? Did he heard it on the extra point? I don't know exactly, must have, must have he was gonna get said packing after that game, after the miss extra point, it wasn't so um, But obviously they would love to have Lambeau back in the fold at some point. He's been pretty darn close to the perfect throughout his time of the Jags. But again, think about that for a second. They picked him up off the scrap, right. So you know, kickers they get hot and they get cold.

You know that, unless you're Baltimore's kicker, he just stays hot all the time. Just Lambo has been hot his whole time here. He's never been called right what I'm saying he was He was released by the Chargers. No, no, I didn't understand that. But that's a loss. I mean when you when you know you're gonna win tight games. I mean, I don't see the Jag Wars blowing people out this year. I mean, the kicker becomes very important.

You see a lot of type games, a lot of THI games, You're gonna need that kicker, Need the kicker. They might need the kicker this week though. Actually, um some other changes today. They Jaguars released Timmy Journegan, who came here during training camp after the opt outs and the retirement uh, so he did not last long here. And Leon Jacobs with a knee injury Thursday night is on the reserve injured list. He's done for the years. That was bad. I hated seeing that for that kid.

Did they show it on TV? Because I couldn't. We didn't get a good look at it. It was almost like a nonc like he just went down planet it was. It was non contact. As a player who played in the league, any relation to those kind of injuries to not having camp, I don't think the knees, most of the knees if you look at most of the c ls and people that getting rolled up on that just happens it Or like Barkley when he planned yeah yeah, yeah, one yeah. But who knows, I mean, isn't it isn't it?

Isn't it the story every time Pete like something changes in the off season or preseason or something's different and oh this is because this X, Y and Z we practice last or practice war. I mean, who knows? And I think every year with the injuries, it's the same thing. Oh my god, this is worse there's ever been. And it's like the same every year they're bad. It happened it's part of football. Guy, it's a it's a violent game.

You know that. Guys get hurt. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, So the Jags have had their share already in training, camping, and certainly now in the first few weeks of the season they had to make all the moves. Today. Coming up in the second hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, we'll recap all the big news of the day, getting ready for the Bengals this week and week four. We have social questions that were submitted earlier today. That's Tony's favorite segment.

I mean, guess there's more. There's probably more social questions this week. After a bad loss, is my guess. Usually it's after the bad loss you get a lot of Yeah, but that happened on Thursday. If it happened yesterday, you probably a few days to let it kind of simmer away, so it's not as harsh as it would have been let's say, last week. Uh So, And we'll get our power rankings in the a f C South, of course, the all important power rankings, and we'll go around the

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the right position where we want to be? And you know, are we doing technically what we're supposed to do from a technique standpoint? And I think you gotta keep it, you know, very precise, very um um. You don't want to be too broad where there's too many things and old the two things that I'm really looking for at a at a you know, this team and the coaches these um you know, these next couple of days and then obviously let's go play and let's see if let's

see if we can make a play. You know, if we're in position and we're using the right technique, then you know we should be able to make some place. And I think that will help us see him and help us get better. Head coach segmentone earlier today, Welcome back, second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli recapping the Jags loss against the

Miami Dolphins Thursday night in week three. It's on to Cincinnati this week in week four for the Jags with a one and two record, now third place in the a f C South. That was the head coach about the approach early this week heading into week four, But obviously the defense slow starting again in the last Thursday's game and loss, give up three consecutive touchdown drives to

start the game, long sustained drives this time around. Then the offense playing catch up, but they couldn't catch up this last time, as they could the first two weeks of the season, and they had to do it without DJ Chark this week. Doug Brown said today that Shark they were waiting on a couple of tests just to

make sure Chark would be good to go. It sounds like it's positive news though for the wide receiver moving ahead, and the Jags did sign a kicker today as well, Stephen Haushka, with Brandon Wright being waived injured with his groin injury and his NFL debut Thursday night. UM an early jump. We're just gonna get one here. I just saw a tweet come in for social questions talking on the defensive side here, The question is what's the split on the defensive side as far as who's at fault

between scheme and execution? Is it play calling? Is at mental errors? And can it be improved? What's the field there, Tony? Yeah? I mean I don't think it's scheme JP watch him UM like, I don't see anything that is um unsound or you know, like they're getting out leveraged or just you know, you know bad, you know scheme. I don't see that now, you know, we're not at practice obviously, so how it's being taught, how it's being communicated. I

mean that's part of coaching too. So much of it is everyone just wants to talk about scheme and you know, the excess and those part of it obviously very important, but also a big portion of coaching is can you communicate what you're trying to do and can guys understand it and can they execute it? Um, And so we're not there, I have no idea. Ah, I've always thought Todd Washing as a good coach. Um. I think you also have to look at the people you're on the

field and look how young this defense is. And I think we knew there was major issues going in. Um, they lost the guys they brought in to stop the run and to plug up the interior of that defensive line to make it stronger and to get the push in the past game in the pass rush, they're not there. And the guys that you know, you know, you have a bunch of you have a bunch of guys in the interior that are rotational players, and you have a

bunch of young guys on the outside. I don't think Chase on you know, I think he's got as the opportunity a really good UH football player, But we gotta remember he's going from an outside linebacker and now he's playing an every down, you know, defensive end, and that's gonna take time from the figure it out. So I think it's I think probably more than anything. Everyone's at fault always and so it's always dangerous saying well, it's coaching,

it's players. It's usually both when you're not playing well. So I think both. I think both of the coaches and the players need to do a better job. But if you're looking for the magic bullet, I mean I saw I read some more. Someone on Twitter said, oh, you know, go get Wade Phillips to come in as a consultant, or you know, fire Todd Wash you don't

do this or that or whatever. I mean, there's no magic bullet out there, um that all of a sudden you're gonna go from struggling UH to you know, being great. And if you look at it, look at the first two games. After the first quarter and a half, they played good defense, but there are big holes they were down. So they gotta start faster. They're gonna be more consistent, and they gotta find the pass rush. They I mean the biggest thing with this team right now is they

gotta they have to learn to it. They have to figure out how do they affect quarterback. Maybe it's blitzing Moore, maybe Todd Washings to get out of his comfort zone a little bit and blitz more. It sounds like they hand be more aggressive. It sounds like they have Tony. I mean they've they've pranked up the heat percentages. Yeah, they did, they did, But maybe you gotta do more. I don't. I mean, but they need to do something. Yeah, but what happens if they do more? Tony, what do

you do? You you expose the young secondary and man coverage all over the place, and it's it's slow death or fast death, take your pick, right, and that what it is? Yes, what would you do? I want to hear what you would do? Um, I think I'd be more aggressive. You gotta start creating turnovers. I don't think you're gonna be good enough just to line up toe to toe with teams. I'm with you. I think you gotta get after him a little bit. I think, yeah,

I would do I bring miles Jack Moore. I Yeah, I'd stunt and I'd line up in the a gap and come after people more. I don't I just I'm with you. I would get creative. You can't just sit back there and let them pick you apart. You don't have to. You know, ideally, any defense and you know this would love to be able to get home with four guys. They can't. Yeah, I mean Todd Wash has always said that, And then then they were able to

do that a lot. Remember back in seventy that's how they played a lot of the defense that year is rush for drop seven and make some big plays. But they also have some different personnel back. But that's the Seattle way. That's where Gusts came from. That Gusts came from Seattle where they play that cover three and rushed with the four guys and get pressure and now and Todd Wash kind of learned at the foot of Gusts.

So where's what does Gusts doing? Sit with the chargers now there and they're good, they're good defensively, right, So it's not a matter of scheme, it's a matter of players. You have to have your players. You have to fit the scheme to the players that you have. So okay, so what would you do with chas On then No,

I mean I'm not saying I think. I mean I worry about like when I see him and Josh Allen out there together, which they jp Amy snaps, they did that together, but I saw it more and more against Miami. And if you get it tied into him, I mean he's I mean he's not a big he's not he's an undersized not undersized, but you know he's a smaller defensive enage. And if you were all tied into him now with a SUDD, he's getting doubled. I mean, it's

just it's a different game. And and I'm not saying he can't do it, Like I think he's super talented. I like him, but I just no preseason abbreviated the camp and he's playing a position he did not play in college. I mean, JP, you watched a lot of SEC football. He was a stand up linebacker, was part. Yes, absolutely, Well what was Josh Allen? And he was at Kentucky.

You stood up a little more than he put his hand down also, Okay, So why wouldn't you stand them both up then and go and put three big guys inside, go to the more three four. My question with that would be Jack and and Showber hold up as inside backers in that. But the Harvard you can't do that. Then there in the middle of season, you can't make that decision. I would I'll be honest with you. I

probably would have thought about doing that before this. Yeah, but here's the things together in a regular off season, maybe right since you're on the field with wasn't that the plan last year? That when that was the that was the if a got Way had showed up normal at the usual time that he and Josh Allen were going to stand up and ever played more of a three four? Could you play could you play like the Broncos do with those two guys? Do you do anything you want? You did? You have to put it in?

Why didn't they put more of it in? And and they maybe they didn't feel confident with a young football team making that many changes and they had all the opt outs and a bunch of changes going on. I mean, I can get it. It's hard. Who would you? I mean, if you had to play that way, you'd play what abriy on the nose or Hamilton's on the nose? You'd play Taven, Brian and Gostus. But you can do it. No, but it's a different scheme. Peat. You don't just you know,

you don't just wake up. You don't wake wake up Monday morning today. Well okay, but when you drafted two hundred fifty pounds stand up linebacker to go with your other two two or fifty five pounds stand up linebacker in April, you think about it, that's fair interesting offense. Now. Of course, the we touched on James Robinson in the first hour of the program and how his start has been its historic is what it is. He's the He has the most scrimmage yards of any undrafted player in

league history through three games. And you can't ask much more of James Robinson. The quarterback play last week statistically was not there. But it's week three. We've got a long way to go, Pete, and this is a group that we saw flashes of what they could do earlier this season. As an offense, we's got to see a little more consistently. What's got to be frustrating two fans out there is one of the things that everybody talked about was if the offensive line gets better, then they'll

be better. Well, the offensive line has been better up until late in the game when Camber Robinson went out. The other day, cam Robinson has played better than he's played at any point in his career. He's played really well. Yeah, and I think the two guards are playing well. Linda Shatley Lender wasn't playing to his level that you normally expect. Um, but I thought Chatley did a good job stepping in and the right tackle up until late in the game

last week had been pretty good. That line hadn't been an issue, and so I think they can get back to doing the things they need to do running the football. Um, and I think this is a Bengals team. Teams have run on the Bengals. I mean you saw the Browns. The Browns gas for what two U fifty yards that Thursday night game. Yeah, it was a you know, the track meet. Yeah, So I think you can run on him if you do have your Now the question is is and I don't know what the injury report is,

but back for that game, there was no Geno Atkins. No, no Mike Daniel right, and are they are they back this week? I haven't seen any reports yet. No, But I mean Geno act different player in there. It's a different defense when he's in there. That's my point. He's bad, much more difficult. Hey, Tony, what do you make of the sorry Pete? Would you make it the ejection of cam Robinson? Do you see the replace? I thought it was bogus. I mean, first of all, he's on a

I'm a pile diving fighting for a ball. He has no idea who's on top of him. People are on top of me. You try to get up pushing people around, and I mean, and it happened to be the officials arm I just don't think if your official you throw the flag there, you give a little bit of you have to understand their circumstances. It wasn't like Camber Robbins was purposely going after the official, which if you do in contact official in that way you should be ejected.

But in that circumstance, no, I thought it was important. I thought it was a really poor call. But the official overreacted and did not take into account you know where they were what was going on, um fighting for the ball? I mean, I don't. I thought it was really poor. I agree, I thought that was a terrible call. By the way Daniels played against the Eagles, so he'll be in for sure. Um, I look at the official.

He overreacted to something that he thought he saw and felt that wasn't there, and and somebody should have stepped in and said, look, I saw it. It wasn't that bad. It just you don't do that in that pile. Been in a pile, you know what goes on, and there guys are flowling and trying to get up and get out of there. That was a terrible call by the official. I thought, Yeah, unfortunate for the Jags, certainly for Cam Robinson. All right, let's come back. I hope he I hope

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Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium. On the banks of the Ohio River, and we'll see if the Jaguars can do what they did last year after they went over two hundred yards rushing last year in Cincinnati against the Bengals. By the way, we were mentioning the Cam Robinson ejection last week. According to the fine schedule through the NFL Operations website the official site, the first offense fine for against a game official physical contact with an officials thirty

five thousand and ninety six dollars. Now, by the way, if you watched the video, there were he one hand of one official and then a hand of another official. So I'm curious if it's one offense or two. I'm guessing it's one since it's one ejection, but a second offense would be seventy one dred dollars and change. He's gonna keep his hands off the official. Yeah, I mean, that's adds up quick. That is pricey, though when you think about it, grand it is. According to the fine schedule,

it's pretty much the UH. It is tied with fighting for the most expensive first offense on the fine schedule in the entire sony. Ever, put your hands on a on an official, I don't know, good question problem, like maybe like maybe just to tap him or something and get his attention. Maybe you wouldn't never tried to push an a fish or anything. Oh no, no, no, no, I mean we've got some fights. I mean, I'm sure it didn't like you're fighting and officials trying to break

it up. I'm sure you touch him by accident or bump him or whatever, like throw him off. I'm sure you'd have been about You've probably have been thirty five grand light or a couple of different times then. But Pete, the rule were so much more laxed back then. They were. You could almost thrown an official to the ground. It was so load. I mean you like had I mean you get kicked out like it had to be like a closed punch to a player like you could. I mean the things you used to get away with back

in the day, huh. I mean it's true, I told you that story. I was sitting around with some offensive lineman a couple of years ago out in Arizona at Bentley's Place. Out there, we were watching the Packers Cowboys game from when Reggie White and Gilbert Brown and those guys were playing that Cowboys offensive line. They wouldn't the last ten plays the way those guys were going at each other. I mean, and they some of those guys might have got arrested for some of the stuff they did.

It incredible, you know. I mean we used to get guys in the ground. If you got a guy in the ground, you would go after him, diving form to head, face mask in their back. I mean you were just like gouging them and then like is beating the hell out of them on the ground. And by the time you had played the rules that calmed down a little bit. Since those rules and even go back, as you go back a decade, each decade, the rules have gotten amazing. Yeah.

But the Gilbert Brown, Eric Williams I was about that was when I was coming in the league. So that's when you were coming in the league. Yeah, And so you can do I mean you could. You could cut guys in the back of their legs. I mean you could. I mean there were Broncos that Broncos used end careers all the time. Yeah, I mean you just went after him brutal. Let's get to social questions, now, Tony's favorite segment. The first question a right from at Jacob Reinhardt too.

Was Thursday a fluke for Minshew? Or have we seen his ceiling? Thanks love you guys. Um, I don't like. Yeah, I don't know. Um. That's the question I have is what we saw in the first two weeks of season, is that his ceiling? Is that like the best of Minshew? I hope not. I hope you can still get better. And I'm holding out like belief that he's going to get better throughout this season. So I'm gonna say it's

a fluke and we have not seen the ceiling. But that's a great question and we'll find out to the next thirteen games. But how do you separate numbers from the ceiling? In other words, he's gonna his numbers were good last year and his numbers so far pretty good this year. But has he been good? Has he been you know what I mean? Tony? You gotta divide them, take the numbers and push him to the side sometimes and just watch him to make your determination. The other

day was not good. I don't care what his numbers were. It was not good. The Tennessee game a lot of really good. It's not bad. The Indianapolis game, the numbers were good, but he didn't throw the ball down the field a grating opening day was quarterback rated guy? No, no, he's not. And how many throws has he completed down the field? There was one to Chark for sure that got Shark hurt. But you have three games and you can almost think about him on off the top of

your head without it right the chart. Well yeah, but commonly had a dropped this week on the underthrown one, that would have been a big play. Mhm um, yeah, not a lot, right. See. So I think the answer to that question is Thursday might have been an aberration of some sorts. But I don't know where the sea. I don't know if the ceiling is that much higher than what we've seen already from him. And that's the scary part. I think it goes back to the other thing.

I mean, because he's still young quarterbacks, you want to give him time. But when I can't get over and I'm not saying it's fair, and I could be this could be so wrong. Um Like, when you think about worries at his young quarterback, his numbers probably like Kyler Murray, um go back, you know, think of a guy like I'm thinking of shorter guys like uh, Russell Wilson early in his career. Um, let's just just just think, uh, Murray and Wilson younger in their careers, probably similar numbers.

Min Sho's numbers might be better. But don't you have didn't you have a different feeling about Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray because of just the talent, the armed talent that they both have, Like they can just make throws that are unreal, and and Minshew is good escaping, but he's not a runner. They were runners. They're both runners. Like, but yeah, that's where I keep on getting stuck with Minshew mentally, Like, and I go back and forth because I wanted to be able to do it and I

wanted to be the guy because it be great. Um, but you knew that those guys, like, you know, Kyler Murray has a high ceiling because of his freakish that letic ability and the howitzer he has for a right arm. You knew that Russell Wilson had a huge, like off the chart ceiling because of his freakish athlete and I mean he has a gun and he is as accurate

as any quarterback in the NFL. Like, so you knew, like the like if they could figure out the pace of like Russell Wilson's issue was pocket presidents work in the pocket, not getting out too early, and like you felt like, hey, give him time, he'll figure that out. Um. And when you think about Minhi, what is like what

like what does he do exceptional? Like like he's like he has moxie, his composure, he is that kind of in fact are all very important, but it's not like he's a top level athlete, does not have a big arm, and so those are always things that you're going he's gonna have to work around. Here's all you have to do is look at the game this week and look at the two quarterbacks. Didn't you know looking at Joe Burrow,

they had their guy? Know it, three games don't be three but you know, and you're gonna let me ask you a question. Do you know that Arizona has their guy in Kylamurley? Yes? Yeah, I think you're right too, And I tend to agree there, Yeah you do, do you? But that's why I mean this game is a perfect example. He's played more games than Joe Burrow, many more games.

But you know what Joe Burrow, you don't know with him yet well, and like it's funny if you go, like if you go over the last three years of young quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield, do you know he's the guy? I don't, No, Um, lam Jackson, Josh Allen, you do? Now you do? Lamar Jackson? Yes, Ma Homes obviously yes, Um, Sam Donald Non, No, I don't. You don't know, you don't. And he's an sc guy. I want to say yes, but I don't. But I mean, could you. I mean

that team is terrible. It's it's unfair to But again, if you put my Homes as is with the Jets, would would you know that Mahomes was the guy? I don't know. It's hard. They're so bad, they're awful. And if you look at Donald, he has he has armed talent, and he's had moments like last year where he was good at the end of last season six and two. So it's it's it's a hard position to make judgments on. And that's where Carson wentz the guy. Wow, that's a

great question. Beat. I haven't watched any Eagles games. He's been awful, tony awful. Yeah, before he was MVP guy. Yeah, but we'll barry guys quick and we'll annoint guys quick. I mean we're we, I mean we all Cam Newton, we thought was done, was never gonna play football, were quarterback at the high level again. And he goes to

New England. He's getting paid a million dollars and they're they're gonna compete, They're gonna go to the playoffs probably, and they're gonna give the Bills a run for their money in these I think the Bills are better. But it's gonna be a great It's gonna be a great. Well, he went through the Belle, he went through the belotchick car washes all the stink off you when you get there.

Question at Meadow World crazy, How will the Jaguars defense be able to stop Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson and Nick Foles. Okay, first of all, take Nick Folds out of that, Like you can't put him in the same category with those other guys. Yesterday Okay, he didn't even complete sixty of his passes yesterday. Um No, I think I think we have a hard time. Like Shaun Watson isn't playing that well.

Right now as I watched the tape. Um, I haven't seen Stafford this year, but staff played well yesterday. Roethlisberger's put that back up. Roethlisberger is playing well. Um, Rodgers playing great, Roger Free, Lamar Jackson is uncle real. Yeah, that's a it's a. Here. Here's the advice. If you're playing in fantasy, make sure you play those quarterbacks that come on you're you're terrible. Well you want to win your fantasy league. That's your fantasy advice. And go back

over that list. Yeah, I've got it. I've got it. So Joe Brown coming out of that list of those quarterbacks that you see right there that are up. Who um, which of the which? Which one? Which are those quarterbacks with the Jaguars beat I think they'll beat Watson, Davin beat Watson once. They might be Burrow. They am beaten. M with that defense. They beating the rest of them. One thing about Matt Stafford, his team might stink, but he he slings it around. Now, well, I mean, but

that's you have to take the team. So you don't think they'll beat the Lions? No, I don't. Okay of this grouping in here, Okay, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Where are you getting eleven wins at? Who are they being? Who are they beating out of that group? Burrow Okay, we'll just say Burrow, okay, bowls there's two, Um and Watson twice, that's four. Five When they play when we always when we we, we always beat their Steelers, that's six.

When they play fools, all you have to do is yelled at him, Nick, you're starting. Remember you're starting, You're out the back, You're starting. I said that to that the other day. I did it hit the other day on that on our stuff, and they said if I was Matt Maggie, I'd make Drabinsky play the first place of could come up the back. He's more comfortable. It's hard to argue that. Our next question at six with it is taven a bus. Why won't they sign a

free agent to help? Alden Smith was signed off the street and leads the NFL and sex So the narrative that there's no one available to help is false. Well, wait a second. All the Smith thing is unique, and the guy was out in the league. I mean, it's a great story. And he actually ran into Mike McCarthy in the offseason and that thing was broken. I mean, and so they take that woman. That's yeah, you can't can't count it never happen. Um, isn't He isn't feeling

a role that they really mean? They have to suppose it pass rushers that they build around here. They need big bodies. If you're gonna you're gonna kill Taven, You're not gonna replace him with Alvin Smith. That's not the same. They don't play the same position. Is Taven a boss? No? Is he serviceable? Yes? Is he anything more? No? So you're saying he's not a bus for a first rounder, Well, I mean yeah, considering he was picked out of Lamar jack that is amazing when you think about that. I mean,

Lamar Jackson is arguably you know in quarterback. Where would you put Lamar Jackson? Ranking him in quarterbacks today? Top five? Yeah, think about it. They passed on they could watch the game tonight. They passed on the homes for Leonard Fournette. They passed on Lamar Jackson for Tavin Bryan. That just that hurts my feelings. You're gonna be doing the game tonight. You could sit there in their entire time thinking about

what could have been. Yeah, the Lamar Jackson on Taven I mean the my homes, Like I don't like any of those, but like maybe I remember sitting there at that draft and we were talking like Lamar is on the table still. I mean, he's still there on the board and you can go get him. And uh, obviously they didn't and the Ravens did. Everyone in Baltimore is happy but to be as good as he is now. But Pete, I disagree with that. I think people like

knew he's remember watching him in college. He's a freakish. He's a freak when it comes at least like you watch them like it's unbelievable watching him against NFL players, how he makes them look. And now you know what he's doing in the pocket. He's standing there slinging it and and everybody in the Ravens organization says, first one in, last one out. So he's working his butt off to get better, and he's Betty, I'm better. I get him all the credit in the world. I didn't think he'd

be as good as he is. He is really good. The only reason, I mean, you know, he's still young. It's probably early to says bust Picked in the twenties. But is he a first Is he giving you first round production right now? Though? But but I'm gonna reference a guy that was picked in the twenties that played for you guys, Ronaldo Win was picked into twenties. Is he as good as Ronaldo Win? It's hard to say, because we're all those on some good teams, good defenses.

Soul wasn't as good. He wasn't good. Yeah, I don't think so, we're all of them. No. Our next question from that the Josh Hampton is now the time to pay DJ Chark realizing how important he is to our offense. Well, they're gonna pay him eventually anyways, So yeah, no, I pay him at the end of the year, not during the pay at the end of the year when he was one year left before the third years over anyway. But yeah, he's gonna get he's gonna get a new contact.

That's not He's a building block. You pay building block. That's right. I agree, simple enough. And the final question from at STU under School Winners Real talk, Chaps. If we lose to the Bengals this weekend, are we done for the season? What does you mean? I don't even know what that means? What do you mean? What if you're what if you run off twelve in a row. He's not like you talking about the playoffs, is he? They were done before they kicked the ball off an

opening week. Oh stop, They just why they're not a good team, and that's okay. What is It's not okay? First of all, trying to win games, it's not okay at all. But Pete just said it's okay. You lose, it's okay. Well you're building something, participating, that's great. You can get orange orange twice is in halftime, everyone gets, everyone gets a trophy, going for pizza after the game. You could have you should have kept a bunch of the veterans around. You could have went seven and nine maybe,

and you've been You've been stuck in purgatory forever. It's better to lose games and get out of Okay, wait to say what veteran would you have kept? It would have added any game. I wouldn't kept any of them. Klais maybe, yeah, that's only won. But I'm saying why not? Just realized this season is what it is. It's about developing for next season. Is that a bad thing? It's week four. Ye, it is. It is when you peg him to win a left No, it's not the reason.

It is what it's only week four. It is when you like, that's what the season is before they kicked off the building for something else, and when you thought this team has constructed, wasn't winning. It's not winning. What if they're two in one right now? Even if that's true, I don't want to hear it. It's not even October,

not even October yet, it's September already. I mean, they got a whole season left the next but Pete is saying JP and he might be right, Pete saying they have zero chance of doing anything productive from the win lost Calum this year, and so the whole folks should not be whether you win or lose, is are your young players getting better? Correct? That's what people right, And

then you're going in the next year. You got a ton of draft capital, but it only matter and then you have money that only works beat if Gardnerman choose the guy, because if he's not the guy and you don't get a cop pick, then you are literally trying to go chase the quarterback and figure out how to you know, build build the build a winning team. That is to say, you only got one so far, so you're still in the running. We'll come back. Thank you

for the social that makes sense. You're your idea, Pete makes sense if Gardner issues the guy. No, it makes sense if you had the first overall pick too. Okay, but there's only one team to get that right now. The Jets are a runaway for it. Yeah, but they'll fluke in the winner too. You might. Yeah, but I'm not saying they're gonna win one. But it wouldn't be a bad thing. All right, let's come back. Social questions

were a hit tonight. Thank you for your submissions today. Wait, JP, real quick, try to win one game and get Trevor Larns or win four and not get him win one. Yeah, of course, but it's week four, JP. You're missing. The point is he is signed off. It is not going to win games. I understand. I understand. Back in a moment, I don't agree, but I understand. Uh, we'll go around

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sixteen and you drive the car. You're don't say you never did anything like that either. Right, let's go around the FC South quickly. We'll move along from that one to Houston. Texans lost to the Steelers. They had a halftime lead and they were shut out in the second half. Three b yeah good, yeah, talking, they're very good, I mean, and they couldn't stop the running the second half. I mean they got beat up defensively. Um Steelers random all right at him, and they didn't get bunch of a

pass rush against Ben in the second half. And offensively they just don't look right. I mean, tell me who scares you on that offense? Well, here's the other thing. What do they do well? They don't run it well. I can't throw it well, but he holds the ball too long. The offensive line isn't good, they don't rush the pass it very well then playing well, and the secondary is not good. Other than that, what do they

do well? I don't think that's a good team. No, I think get eight team at best, at best eight and eighteen, So eight nights, so you think they go eight and five the rest the way probably seven and nine tea, Yeah, they in a couple of weeks. Yeah, the Colts knocked off the Jets thirty six seven. Philip Rivers had passed four hundred career touchdowns in the win. They won two straight after the loss to the Jags. Peak that shouldn't count. I mean, the Jets are terrible,

but I mean they did dominate him though. I mean it was like it was, it was never in doubt. Here's the that's what you're supposed to do against bad teams. Were supposed to put the game away. Here's the other thing about the cold. They're gonna look back, the season's over and go out. In the hell did we lose that opener? How phil Rivers in the fourth down when they should have kicked the field goal to make it

tend nothing that that's a bad start too. Yeah, and the Tennessee Titans knocked off the Vikings thirty one to thirty. Gaskowski had six field goals, including the game winner late, and every Titan's win has been because of a Gaskowski game winner. The best is they're gonna cut Gaskowski after the first half of the opening night game against the Broncos, and now he's has three game winners but they got

they have defensive issues. They're good defensively, they have no one who nobody, nobody, nobody, and I mean Dalvin Cook went for buck eight. Think about that. Justin Jefferson, the rookie was going wild yesterday. They're not good on defense, they can't they can't rush the pastor no. But offensively, their offensive line is not playing that well either. Taylor Wane got hurt. I don't know what his stats is gonna be, but yeah, Derrick Henry and Annie Hill and

they got they got weapons outside. Remember forever it was a team with no receivers and just get you could just run the ball. They're doing this without a J. Brown, a J. Brown back, A J. Brown, uh Davids, Corey Davis and then the Chanou with the little John Smith John Johnny Smith and Adam Humphreys working the slot. And they're good. Yeah, it's too bad. Too bad. They're not like the old Titans, where they were physical on both

lines of scrimmage and dominated that way. They be the best team in the NFL probably, I guess quickly power rankings in the a f C. South Tony I'm gonna go, uh, you gotta They're undefeated. You gotta go them one. I'm going to Jags too. Stay strong, And he keeps saying that, well, they beat the Gold, they beat the Cold, play the Colts the last week of the season. Three because they

beat the Jets, it doesn't count. And the Texans are fourth because they have won a game, Well, the one, I'll have the one in fourteen, Jaguars ahead of the Cold, I'll have the I think right now the Colts are the best team, but I'll put the Titans ahead of them. They've earned it. Titans one, Colts too, Texans three, Jack Works. What is that? This is terrible? It's factual. What it is right for a national organization, YE might put you if we just could strap you in every to a

lighted tector every show. That thing would have enough circuits to put the electric county bridges would light up everything. Yes, you don't believe anything you say. That's not true. I believe everything I say. JP. What I'll say this probably a little bit teo colored Glass is putting them ahead of the Colts. If I was being completely honest in the power rankings, I go Titans, Colts, Jags, Texts. I really think they're better than the texts. I think the

texting drop so bad. It's close. But no, of course, the division standings Tennessee, Indie, Jacksonville, Houston, those are the ones that really matter. The a f C South standings through week three. Let's come back and we'll go around the rest of the National Football League and recap all the games and we'll preview Monday Night football. Tony has a call tonight in Baltimore. One big ball game tonight of great quarterbacks. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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others for a chance to win. Welcome back coming down the home stretch on Jaguars Happy Our j P Shatrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Basselli, Jags and the Bengals coming up this Sunday. Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati the site for that one. Let's go around the National Football League and recap the week three games and first off. As we touched on briefly earlier, a bunch of former Jaguars had pretty good days yesterday. Pete um, Nick Foles, Lazard, Mercedes

Lewis I think scored a touchdown. Shaan Gibson had an interception to see all game. That's a that's a long list. I don't even think I think I've probably left one or two off. Yeah, but which one of those guys would help right now? Louis blocking yep. That's still a mystery to me why they ever got rid of him. I mean, it costs like three million bucks a year, four million bucks here. But Alan Lazard when he was in,

when he was coming out of I was state. I actually put him on a list of guys that I like better than the Scalps that I'd do every year. But I thought he would have to add weight and become a move tight end. So I kind of got it right, but I got it wrong. He's look, he's done. He looks good. But how much of that is Aaron Rodgers is his quarterback? I mean, is he doing that here?

Good question? Probably not. But you know what, he actually showed some ability to run a little bit less you saw it, and I don't know if you saw Rogers postgame interview after the game, he said, look, they were double into the side of Valdes scantling and that left the kid in one on one opportunities. He took advantage of them. All right, let's see, let's get to the games.

The Bears rallied, Nick Foles rallied the Bears in the fourth quarter, another crushing defeat for the Falcons, and dan Quinn's seat is red hot after a thirty to twenty six Bears went over the falcon speed. Oh, he's in trouble. I mean, how long do you keep him? How can you They're the first team ever to blow fifteen point leads in the fourth quarter back to back weeks. I mean, that's how can you keep them? He'll make it to the When when's their bye week? You better because I

don't think you fired them until the bye week. And what do you better hope is he has about four more weeks to the bye week and they run four off in a row and they're four and three at the bye week. Otherwise he's gonna get fired by week A. Week ten, Week ten, he makes you think he makes it to week ten. Here's the here's the schedule coming up, by the way, for Atlanta at the Packers home against the Panthers at the Vikings home against the Lions at

the Panthers and then the Broncos. They could win, they could win four, yeah, five of those outside the Packers, but the Packers is this week. That means they go to oh and four. That's right. He might he might not make it home after that one, and then they'll make a change and then they'll play those bad teams and who Rahey Mars will be the coach problems. But Pete, let's be clear, who are their losses to so far? They start the season Seattle, No, yeah at home, say

I mean no, not to say it's the Cowboys. Cowboys should have won. And then and then the Bears. The Bears are the worst. The Bears are the worst three and the team in the history of the NFL. You don't believe in Nick Foles. I don't believe in the Bears. I don't believe in the Bears either. The Bills. You better believe in Buffalo. They knocked off the Rams thirty five, thirty two. Josh Allen had the game winning drive. They lost the lead, But this guy's MVP material. You weren't lying, Pete.

I worry about their defense a little bit. It wasn't good yesterday, and that's all. And no, I think the Rams are great at scheming guys open and with all those misdirection boots and all that. But they were not good. But Josh Allen is in that offense is fun to watch because he's driving. He's averaging nine yards of completion. I think it is he's driving. All Let's be clear, though they got a break that was not passing. Well,

let's be clear. There was an interception earlier in the game that wasn't an interception that turned the game around. It was dual possession. They called it a pick and it should have been a pick. This guy Tony's defended this guy there, liken't be careful about the bill were chock down. It's just believe me, our critique calls all the just like you guys, I thought the past interference call was debatable at best. All right, let's get through

the rest of these games quickly. So you know, they went to the booth and and the what's his name? I think it was um stator? Wasn't one of those guys said it was. It was holding because he carried him past the line of scrimmage from through I would have been, yeah, well that would have given him first down. Anyways. Nick Chubb ran for eight and two touchdowns for the Browns. They beat Washington thirty four twenty. Rex Burke had had

a big game for the Patriots. Yes, Nick, Nick Chubb is the most underappreciated, underrated running back in the NFL. He might be the best pure running back in the entire league, and yet they give carries degree month. Uh. The Patriots are amazing. It's an amazing coaching staff, an amazing team. I thought they'd be awful on defense, awful. Done a great job and Josh MTh Daniel was a great play caller. Niners over the Giants. New York stinks

so far. The Bengals and Eagles and an overtime tied three. As we mentioned, Burrow sacked eight times and hit eighteen times in the game. Fletcher Cox and Malik Jackson combined for seven of those hits. By the way. The Panthers over the Chargers. Teddy Bridgewatcher of fishing in the game twenty eight passing four turnovers by the Chargers. H Herbert's gonna be good, but um a little reckless with the ball yesterday. Yeah, but he got him back in and they if they hit the hooking lateral at the end

of the game, they win it. And it was there, It was there. Lions over the Cardinals. Seven lead changes in this game. The Lions went in the last second field goal. Bad loss for the Cardinals. You're supposed to win that game. If you're gonna be a really good team. You gotta win that game. The Bucketeers over the Broncos. Brady through three touchdowns, two of those too, Mike Evans both one yard scores early in the game. The Seahawks beat the Cowboys, and a late touchdown pass from Wilson

to Metcalf. Of course, is the best quarterback in the NFL. I know Aaron Rodgers, it's close. Josh Allen, He's gonna say, Josh Allen, that's his guy. Mahomes is the best quarterback, the best quarterback right now. This is I'm not saying the guy. I'm not saying the guy would pick. I pick my Homes right now for the walk. Right now, there's no one better than Russell Wilson. A close second is Aaron Rodgers there, but those two are head and

troulders above everyone else for the way they're playing right now. Okay, but after tonight, when Mahomes boats from fort and four scores, you're gonna I don't know. Russell Wilson right now is amazing and he has to be that. When somebody asked me, he said he through fourteen touchdown passes already three games. I go. Defense keeps playing the same ways. Of course, the Packers at the Saints thirty seven thirty Rodgers hard count on the road. Something to watch all season long.

Now without any fans on the road, he can do it everywhere. Yeah, but the guy, the guy, he's throwing bombs and lasers off, flicking his wrist for sixty five yards to Alan Lazar. Just think about that. The big play is a sixty five yard wrist flicked Alan Lazard. Come on, everybody said he was washed up. It was the biggest joke leading into the sea everywhere, everybody Tony apparently there were a lot of people. I mean, JP, this is another one where Pete got right. So he

wants to make sure everyone else was against them. All right, but you heard you clearly heard the talk that he wasn't the same guy. Yeah, I heard that, but I mean I washed up. I've never quite heard. And the best one is they drafted Jordan's love and so he's playing with fire this year, and then he wasn't playing with fire. Come on, give me a break. Time for

Monday Night football. It's the best matchup of Week three and a battle of two of the best young quarterbacks in football, Chrick Mahomes and the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs meet the defending m v P. Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, both teams to at all. Who you got on the inner Harbor to Night, Tony? Well interesting. Lamar Jackson is twenty one and three in the regular season starter. He has three losses. You know who.

Those three losses are against Patrick Mahomes twice, Cleveland Browns once, and patricker Mahomes twice. Take it quickly, so I'll say this, but the Ravens are gonna win to Night because they're gonna rush for six hundred and eighty five yards against the Chiefs defense. Mahomes my throw eighteen touchdowns, but it's not gonna be enough because the Chiefs defense is bad. He's gonna throw and they're gonna win the game. In the high scooling game, I'll take the Chiefs. Have a

great call, Tony. People will talk to you next week. Thanks to our entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.