Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 27

Field a final count of thirty one nineteen. Here's what's coming up on the show today, Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli. Prisco is present, ms Elli at this moment is not and we'll get to him at some point. Maybe the third quarter is really where this game turned. Late in the third we'll break down all those situations, including the failed flee flicker and that play actually put Arizona ahead for good social media questions, and we'll go around the

National Football League. Pete Frisco with us now and at Pete and first off, good afternoon to you. We've got a lot to get to today. What's up, j P. Where's uh? I don't know, but we'll take the ratings spike anytime we can get it. Pete, So is he on the golf course or what I mean? Is he on like a teen? Now he's just got done a teen? He's racing in. Yeah, he's probably got a to go cup with him, a little styrofoam walking in here here he is? Hey, what golf course did you play? Tony?

Did you just finish a team? Get a shower in? Like? What's what's up with you? Golf? Today? That was actually just right next door? How did you hit him today? Tony? It's only four oh one. I'm only minute. I didn't play golf for the first nine. By the way, you're six minutes late because supposed to be here five minutes early. Thank you. I don't know. Are we still working on that schedule here? Apparently not, because somebody on that schedule

that's a life lesson. What an interesting? Uh? What an interesting? Things have escalated? Or so. The Jacks had a nine point lead yesterday, it slipped away in the third quarter and they never looked back, and then all of a sudden they traded away at first round corner today to the Carolina Panthers. Tony Well you know, there's so much to unpack there, and I know we want to talk about the game and we will, but the trading away of a top ten pick? Can we talk about C J. Anderson?

Let's do it? Yeah, the trading way of a top we can That's all. Okay, Pete, thanks the trading way. It's official now the team announced it. So yes, trading awave a top ten pick. And I don't know much about Dan Arnold, but would calling him a journeyman tight end with that be fair? I think so. He was undrafted in seventeen out of Wisconsin Platteville and has been a couple of different spots, so journeyman bounced around. My guest is you probably could have gotten in the off

season if you wanted him that bad. They actually Urban actually said that today. We wanted him in free agency. Um, and you had to give away a fifth to get a third. So you got a guy I'm not and maybe he'll try out to be great. I mean I hope he does. Maybe he's the next Antonio Gates who was undrafted. Okay, but you know what I'm saying, Pete, Um, and you you gave him a top ten pick in a fifth or third, basically um and a guy you could have gotten, And so makes you go back and think.

This team has had a lot of top ten picks over the last decade, most of them. Well, I'll say this, we we have a list of them if you're watching on Jaguars dot com. The since or so even there's been ten top ten picks, a lot of first rounders, but only two of the top ten picks remain on the team, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen in that time. Of course, ten is on i R right now. C. J. Henderson's now with the Panthers. David Bryant is here, but

he was later in the first round. The only two top ten picks going back to Tyson ala Al who was one of those, these are the Steelers, Blames with the Bucks now of course black Man, Joco Borders all out of football, Dante Fowlers with the Falcons. Ramsey went to the Rams. Leonard Fournette has a Super Bowl ring in Tampa. And there you go. So, I mean he's say this now the Rams one, the Jalen Ramsey trade.

Oh my, what what? What? I was trying to remember what picks did we get for Jalen Ramsey, what players you got that? Um? Which it was the second? There was the second picks of each round, right, it was the twenty, It was the chase on and the e t N. Wasn't it two? First? Is that it is? Know?

I think it's um, That's right, That's it? Is it? Yeah? Well, I mean the bottom line I mean, and I don't want to revisit the draft or anything like that, but the bottom line is you look at that group of players, and those are supposed to be. I mean, I'm not saying every one of them is gonna hit, but those are your starters, and a handful of those guys are supposed to be the stars and the team, the difference makers. Um, and some of them wouldn't be here anyways in a

normal I guess That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying all of them, I'm saying, but like some should be though. Pete, well, yeah, well Ramsey, if Ramsey hadn't had his um, you know, pounding episode, then he's here. Fowler had all kinds of problems in Jacksonville, Let's be real about it. But but Dante's probably is he as good or better? The name passed Rusher we have on the team right now. Ah. He he had a bad year last year, so he's

up one. Yeah he didn't play well ast okay, um so, but my point is, here's the other thing that if you look at that list, if I'm not mistaken, only one top ten pick, because maybe it was um take out Tyson because I didn't go that far back. But I think only one of them got a second contract, and that was Blake Bart, which a lot of people questioned whether he should have anyways. I mean, you could also look at it and say, let's go through the draft and say that the draft with the quarterbacks with

Gabberd in it, everybody forced those quarterbacks because they were desperate. Um, baby baby Boselli was never any good. But that draft was awful from top to bottom. Remember one of the other guys that were gonna draft in that draft was Dion Jordan. If they had taken Joko and he was a bust. The number one overall pick was Fisher. He's now on his second team. Um, so there are instances for a lot of them, but yeah, they blew the picks. They blew up and miss Henderson pick is really weird.

Because we had the incident, the issue, whatever went on in the preseason, and then he was inactive on Sunday. Now they said he had an ankle injury. I think it was during the week. Was a growing in an illness is what it was. Okay, are those real? I don't know. I mean, the bottom line is it's and it's highlighted. Did you guys think anything was up when he wasn't active yesterday? No? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't expect him to play. I guess it's from the beginning.

I guess does he He never loved the game, That's what you hear. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know if it's true. This is all I know. The only thing that I know that it's true. Is why this is a major issue is because it's not just the missing in the draft and building out the foundation of a franchise that if you look around and go up and down the roster right now and you compared to other rosters, you're probably not as talented to some most teams, and and it's highlighted by the we

have lost eighteen straight games. There's no core Jaguar foundation of blue chip guys you drafted very high and developed and signed again. That just doesn't exist around here, and that's that's has to change now in fairness to Urban. He just got here. Yeah, so that's not that list of people. That's not on his watch, and so you can't put that on him. He's trying to his first draft isn't exactly lighting it up either. Well, and you have well the injured E t N. You know, okay,

the quarterback, to your point, is the only one out there. Really, did you have to running back in that spot? There's always a chance of running back. I could get hurt. Pete. I didn't love to pick either. We've talked about this. I don't love the pick. But the pick Lawrence number one, that was a no brainer. You could have put Tony. Your children when they were eight, could have brought that card to the table and that guy. Okay, so let's not all right? So then E t N been like, yeah,

Tyson Campbell, who is going to get more run now? Obviously, well the ball skills, the ball skills are there yet. And that was, by the way, that was a that was the book on him coming out of Georgia. I mean, Draft night, if you looked at anything any of the reports, it was, you know, finishing in ball skills. And I heard that from other coaches as well. That was the book. All right, Cisco, you skip walker little little has been hasn't been active yet, Um, Cisco, Cisco is can't can't

be an out winger to Felly, he's been inactive. So two guys that you drafted with injury histories anyways, I mean they were both had major injury issues. Go ahead, what Felly defensive tackles Southern Now it hasn't been active yet. I don't think the pass rusher from Birmingham Smith Smith not by the way, he was one of the he was one of the additional picks in that Jalen Ramsey trade. They ended up okay, so Tony. So you talk about those old drafts. This draft doesn't produce as much of

anything either. Yeah, But Pete, in fairness, it's early. I mean, like you say all the time, you can't make it. You can't judge the draft probably two or three years down. No, I'm not judging it. I'm just saying right now this draft is producing nothing except for Trevor Lines. Let's hear from head coach Urban Meyer today. He spoke with the media the day after press conference. The big news though, was about the trade of c J. Henderson. I think

number one is the development of Tyson Campbell. He's starting to perform at what we expect him to be, a very very talented guy. You get Trey Herndon back, which you can play nicole um and we have to improve a lot of areas our team, and uh, you know, just see, it might be a good fresh start for c J. Had a great visit with his wily and uh, I love c J and I spent a lot of time with him and his parents, and I don't think it's gonna be good for both of us. So, of course,

as we mentioned, Henderson goes to the Carolina Panthers. The Jaguars received tight end Dan Arnold, who has been in the league for a few years now. They trade picks, the third round pick coming to the Jags, fifth round pick going to the Panthers, per reports, So you know, and obviously tight end was a little bit of an issue yesterday with Hollister with a drop and that caused the first interception for Lawrence. And there's not a lot of depth at that at least at receiving tight end

these days. So we'll see if Dan Arnold step into that role. I'm sorry, but you don't give up on a top ten corner a year and three games into his career. Remember you only played eight games last year, Pete.

You don't give up on him. There's has to be other things at play here has to be Oh yeah, I mean, obviously you're not giving up on him because if like, there there is a much bigger story behind the scenes, because it's nonsensible that they went to his house and they went to his house and gap they admitted that the doors mostly he didn't want to be at one point you already didn't want to play. Then

well that's my point. I mean, this is like, there's a bigger issue here than just like because I'll I will argue this. He's the most talented corner on this team, or he was. Here's something like, have you just said straight talent? Right, of course he is. Here's something I can't figure out. Did Urban recruit him to Florida? No? Okay, so why in the hell does he spending time with

his parents? That's good, I don't know, he's a man the parents for he cares about like, I don't know it's in house, Tony Coffman all your dad, No he did not, Pete, Okay, I mean your men. You doesn't need to be talking to his parents. He's a man, he's laughing. He's a Carolina panther. Now the trade is done, and trade for You're unbelievable, Pete. I mean, it's just I mean, I agree with Pete from the standpoint, not as stupid tirade about calling parents or anything. Did you

give up on a top ten pick this early? Its talented, that's just added to the list. It feels like, right, tone, I mean, it's just another another, another thing. That's what it is. That's what's happened. Well, I mean, and you go. I mean, and we'll get into this. You know, when you look at this, I give the d you know, looking at the game. You know in the side of the ball that C. J. Henderson used to play for

this team. Um, I thought the defense played well. I I get him credit, But offensively, guys, you gotta score more than twenty points in two weeks, No doubt. We'll come back. We're gonna get into the game peat when we come back as well, and that late third quarters swing in the game too, that's where the momentum really changed and the Cardinals offense got down the field. Those are really the two big drives in that game where the defense didn't perform well. The rest of the game

they did. That's all coming up second hour. We'll have social media questions. They've got a lot to get to on a busy Monday. We're off and running. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. When Jaguars news breaks, you will hear about it first on ten ten X out Home of the Checks in Bille, Jaguars the trick play there and I kind of had a guy on my face, so I threw it off my back foot and I really didn't

see the corner fall off on it there. Um, but I kind of saw him as the ball was coming down. So it's just not a good decision. But yeah, I didn't really didn't really see the guy that I thought we had our tight end Jake open and um, But like I said, I was off my back foot didn't help. And then I got to just throw it away if the guy's close, and you know protect that you can't. Defense has been playing great and just give him seven

points there. It just makes it tough. That's the quarterback, of course, Trevor Lawrence after his interception returned for a touchdown. And yesterday's third quarter in the waiting second, so the third welcome back. It's Jaguars happy. R J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco recapping a Jaguars loss in week number three, thirty one nineteen. The final score. What are you guys laughing at? Can I even get through the

intro of the game? I know you know why whenever I go in one of my rants, I can tell this. Elly agrees with me. He just doesn't want to say. So let's talk about this. Let's talk about the flee flicker. Because we were we were, we were texting earlier, and Pete, you hated the call in that position. Um I, I didn't have as much of a problem with you, Pete.

Pete is correct. Typically you see that flee flicker, that style play called the call it at the fifty or the minust somewhere around midfield because because the wrist reward. UM I didn't have a problem with it. Because if it's blocked up correctly, and it was not blocked correctly. DJ Chark is ten yards behind the defense and it

is a it's a it's a house call. Now, I don't know what the communication was in during the week on that play or in his ear, but if I'm in the kids here in Trevor Lawrence is here, I'm saying, if it's not wide open and not there, throw it in the first row of the stands, and just like, no matter what, no matter what, if it's not wide open, if you have pressure anything else in the first row, because worst case scenari it's thirt and six and our

defense is playing good. Now, the defense was playing good, but they just got drove all the way down and um Arizona was starting to move the ball. But regardless, um it was a higher risk because of the field area field they did. But let's be clear, they had nine straight runs, they were pounding them, they were driving the ball, they're having success and it worked beautifully. I mean, it was a house call. It's gonna block it if you're not gonna block it throwing that stand. So just

a couple of airs there, execution airs. So I put less on the on the play called by Daryl Bevel. You know, Pete didn't love the area of the field that it was done. And that's fair because Pete would Pete's right. Most coaches would not call it that backed up. Yeah, and and they just ran it down their throat to let drive before that. I mean, I get it. That's

when you said that, Tony, and I understand that. I just would have waited to see if you get the drive going again, and then when you get closer to midfield, then you take. Then you pull it out and you do it. You're right, shark was wide open. I mean beat Buddha Baker with that double move and he was wide open. This ball handling involved though and protection issues. And look, if we run that playback, what is that Carlos? What is Carlos high doing? Even I know it's not

his guy, but he could he get up? I couldn't really tell when I can he get a piece of him? Um now because he was turning. He got beat so fast, and it was just it was not executed properly up front, Yeah, it wasn't. And it was you know, the whirling dervish. What what did you call that? Bird? Is what Jan Taylor called it to it's not on carloside. That's on in my opinion, and Will Richardson that's the loudes on. Yeah. But again and I never saw Trevor really looking down

the field. Well, he didn't have a chance because as soon as he caught it, JJ is in his face. Yeah, and JJ takes those quick slant chances all the time, you know how that is. He didn't. But yeah, again, I don't mind aggressiveness from this team. I really don't. And so I understand that you gotta pull off some things to try and win. And they got one on a kickoff return for a touchdown off of a miss or miss field. Go by the way, that was a

terrible decision by Kingsbury. First of all, like two things. One, it's so low percentage of you hitting it, and so what if you do it's a three point game, It's like are you kidding me? And then secondly, second is you have five offensive lineman covering against a guy who just returned a kick for a hundred and two yards the week before? What are you a bunch of fat guys chasing a little fast guy. I'm like that one right there, that was a gift a gift from Cliff Kingsbury. Well,

at least they showed some speed in that play. Pete. I mean, I'm I'm getting down the next part of that. Should they get him the ball? So yeah, I mean I think you could. I mean, he's I mean, you know, he's only played receiver for like a year, and you can gimmick up some garb. But you know how this league is now, they gimmick up crap for guys. Yeah, I mean, I think you get on the field. But I mean he's a heck of a returner. I mean, there's no doubt about that. He has vision and he could,

he has wheels, and he can make guys miss. He's a good players on his way to All Pro right now at this space. But again again, um, they had momentum. They went down, drove the ball down, and I know that the Cardinals had scored James Robinson. They were blasting open holes for him too. Yeah, I would have I would have just pounded it until I got the midfield. That's what I would have done. And you know me, Tony,

I'm a pass first guy. But when you come off a drive where you just rammed it down the throat without throwing a pass, go until they stop it. Yeah, they had done eight straight plays with a run. The first one of that drive was wasn't it wasn't it nine? I thought they went eight on the drive and then one more on the first player. Yeah, yeah, eight on that drive and then nine and then what was the how many what was the artist on the first run that in that series four? It was? It was second

and six. Okay, so go get more and more and you're third to get four more and you got a first down. Then you get the midfield that he take that shot. The timing of the shot, the execution was bad, like you said, but the timing and the shot wasn't good.

It's a good idea if you get to midfield. Um, yeah, it's But it's a bigger issue to me, Pete, because even though we're i mean, the offense did good things in the run game was better, and James Robinson proves out what we've been saying, I mean, I've been saying justin saying I think pet like, from the beginning of the season the offense should go through James Robinson until Trevor is you know, um, it'll make it will be the best development for him, like run the offense to James,

and they finally did. And I'm not sure he carries he had I still give him more um him and Carlos. That's the strength of this team right now, and so I give Darryl Bevo credit there. But even with that, they only scored thirteen points. Is an offense Like, well, they don't have any chunk plays in the passing game. They don't get chunk plays. Yeah, I mean so like like you like like you can. You can blame the pick six like my flip side that Okay, okay, call

something else. Don't tell pick six well, Cliff Kingsbury, don't try to kick a sixty eight hours field goal. So just take those two scores off the board. It's still twenty or whatever. But like, okay, Lawrence has to hit Chark on the deep throw down the left sideline. He's

beating his man. He missed them early in the game. Remember, But if we're a Jaguar fans out there that worry about Trevor Lawrence, the chart touchdown past there's only so many human beings on the planet was amazing the fact that when you throw it, I was like, where is he throwing it, and he had him earlier, but he waited too long and he missed him. But then he got and then he got him there that throw. There are only so many people on the plan who can

make that throw. That's why you're incouraged about that guy. His stats aren't great. He's turning the ball over. The one interception clearly wasn't on him. It went right off his end. This throw here, look at his throw. It looks like he's covered back left corner. There's just no room at all there, and he put it right on the money. Yeah, it was. I mean, I mean the story of the game is the I mean the pick six.

Maybe part of it in the kick return or a field return for a touchdown part of the story, absolutely, But it's it's the constant mistakes. Take those two plays out. It's the Jacob Hosstetler, you know whatever his name, Jeff hoss Thattler playing quarterback, Jacob Hollister. I mean, all, why are you jumping run through the catch and keep going. And I think urban said it last night, that's a catch you gotta have. I mean, help your help your kid quarterback? First, do they still dump c J Henderson

for Dan Arnold. I don't know, but that that minimum you lose three there, maybe seven, right, I mean, and then it flips. It changes the field of the game, right, it changes everything. And by the way, and then even in the in the other one, you're down there driving late in the game and maybe you're down two scores. It's late, it's like four or five minutes left, and James Robinson runs into Trevor's arm fumble like if you

score there, guess what, You're still in it. Little mistakes, but I'm gonna give them credit and you got you probably. I think this is strange for me to say this after where I've been the last two weeks. I think they were better this week. They were better, and that's a good sign. That's a sign of prog rest and grow. Fans don't want to hear that. They don't want to

hear that at all. They're tired of the losing. But if you're looking at this in the big picture of everything, and there are questions about the big picture, they made progress this week. They were better. They were a better football team than they were a week ago. And that's a good thing because this Arizona team is a good football team. Well, and I guess yes, I agree with you, but they are going to have to continue to get

better because now they go a short week to Cincinnati. Historically, it's hard as the road team to win on Thursday night and you're playing against the Cincinnati team that's pretty good. I'm not saying they're great, but they're pretty good. And then after that, you know, now you seven straight teams that ten wins last year, Tennessee in Miami, Seattle, Buffalo, it's like San Fran. Yeah, that records insight. Let's just say that what record the longest losing streak twenty six Yeah,

so that means they lose eight more to tie it. Okay, you just read through the schedule. This week is tough on Thursday night. You know that it's tough. You said it. And that Bengals team has actually got some good young players that are playing pretty good football. I just don't I don't see them losing eighth straight from here. Eleven

and eleven. Well, they they'll tie the Lions this week. Yeah, the Falcons would be the tying if they were to lose Jon in Jacksonville and it's week twelve and then they're at the Rams. The next week. Now the Falcons have some better players who might be looking to uh cancoon by then this week? No, they won this week they beat the Giants. They rally from behind to beat

the Giants. Wanted to got a winnable game this week against Washington, so they could be too adu so they get that game might not be what we think it is. They look, well, here's the thing. If it's more possible than it happens in my eyes than they win three games, all they need to do is win one to not have it happen one. All they have to do Pete has win one, not turn the ball over four times, and they don't do it like that. They lose ten straight.

Then they win three out of the next ten, and if they protect the football one game, they can win a football game. Right, thank you? Please answer my question and say thank you. Somebody agree with me. I agree, please somebody and Jacksonville. I don't think they're getting the record. I think they'll win a game. You just said they're getting the record. It's possible. Just exactly said that. I lean more towards them getting the record. They're not breaking

the record. I'll lock it right now, lock it. Not breaking the record. That's a walk off lock for Tony. We're losing him for the next hour. Pete, It's Me and You is the highest rated portion. Ratings are growing up. It's gonna be huge. Thanks for walking in front of my camera. Ton'tly appreciate that. We We're got floating ahead. On Jaguars Happy Hour and check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's a free subscription on an Apple, iTunes, Spotify,

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our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, the score is going to dictate, you know, winds of losses or whatever. But man, I feel like as a group at the team and I feel like we, you know, we took that next step. We just gotta finish. You know what I'm saying. We're a young team, but I'm tired of hare and with a young team, you know what I mean, we just gotta learn how to finish it. But we're it's coming soon. Like That's what I've been telling to

tell her, right, man, we played Thursday. That probably could have been the best thing to happen to us as a team, as players, individually, as coaches, staffs, and as an organization that we played Thursday, man, because we know we should have won this game, and uh, it's over now. We can move on quicker fast there and just worry

about the next one. That's Josh Allen, Jaguars defensive and and outside linebacker after the game yesterday, a Jaguars loss in week number three to follow oh and three on the season, Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Priscoe with us. Tony Boselli is not He's gone for the next hour. He gone, see you did we trade him? Might be next to the list feed. I don't know,

I don't know what can we get for him? The Turkey sandwich roast sandwich, peanuts, something like that, you know, something like that about it. He's got new hips, so that he's got that going for him. You know what. He liked the flee flicker. I did not, But I just think that I understand the reasoning behind it. When you're a desperate team and you're not a great team,

you take chances. Spark right and talked about I've got it there after the way they drove the ball on the ground before the Other argument is that because they ran the ball so well in the possession before plus one play, that's nine straight plays, that might be a time to do it. It might be go to twelve straight plays and get to the forty. You do that, or you could throw it out of bounds, or you could block J. J. Watt, the three time All Pro.

How about that? If you do throw it out a bound, you're still in third and six from your own end. And but that's the play to throw it out of bound. That's what he should have done. I love by the way. I love the way he handles himself after mistakes. Trevor Lawrence, Yes, correct and he and he handles himself like a pro. At the press conference afterwards, and I have a dealt with him. But I can imagine the guys that do the local media, you know, Mark Long and the Rocco

and that gang John read all of them. I bet they liked the candor. I would have. I would have loved being around a guy who who stands up for his mistakes and stands up for and says what happened and describes it in detail. Yeah, I mean it's good. There's a lot of those guys will bristle under any sort of perceived criticism of their play in a game. We've seen that here before, you know, And it doesn't feel that way with with Trevor so far. Just watching

his post the post JP. You hope that being in the league for four or five years doesn't knock that out of him, right, kid, Right, he's enjoying himself. He's having fun. He's uh, you know, he talks about it when he's not supposed to win games. What will he be like when he's supposed to win game? But that remember though, the question with him was how would he be when he lost games? Because he didn't lose any

regular seasons. I think he's been I think he's a pros pro He's been great so far, and now it's just a matter of putting it all together and and not turning the ball over like I said a moment ago, and and getting over the top and finishing a football game. Part of that peat is on the defensive side. And it felt like yesterday, especially in the first half. I mean, there was a one touchdown drive in the first half for Arizona or Kyler Murray did the naked bootleg around

the left and got into the end zone. That was a seven play drive. But beyond that in the first half, when the Jaguars had forced two three and ounce to other punts and that was it. I mean, they were, they were really in control in the first half. It did slip away though, at the end of that third quarter with those touchdown drives, the Jack's got up nineteen ten, and then the Cardinals, up playoff caliber team, go right down the field in two minutes, twelve seconds, five plays,

boom touchdown to get within two. Then the flee flicker play happened two plays later, so in a span of seven scrimmage snaps, the Jaguars nine point lead was a five point deficit all of a sudden, Well, what do the Cardinals do. They get a three and out on defense and then drive ten plays and sitting nearly seven minutes and kill the game with a touchdown. And that's what good teams do. They put other teams away like the Jags. Yeah, and and I thought the defense was better.

I thought, you know, Joe Colon had a good plan. They still don't rush the pastor well enough. Now it's hard to rush that guy. It's hard to rush Kyler Murray because he gets outside the pocket. He does so many different things with his legs and and keeps his head up and makes place. So I understand that. But they've gotta be better rush in the past. That that's you know, one of the top priorities. But I think all in all, they were okay on defense. It wasn't awful.

I mean again, we go back to the one long past to a J. Green Campbell. There you gotta make the play on the ball. Yeah, it was up in the air forever. It felt like it wasn't dart down the field. I mean it was a duck make a play on the ball. But he's there, so like when you look at that place, Okay, he covered him. He just didn't make a play in the ball, So it's kind of like a plus and a minus. It's better than having a guy wide open twenty yards behind you,

ten yards behind you. So um, there are there were some good things. I thought Wilson played pretty solid at linebacker tackle for lost back there at one point I remember that, Yeah, he was okay. Uh. You know, people have been critical of wingered. He played well, an interception in the end zone, brought it back out and not just in a lot of areas I thought. I thought he was solid on on has the criticism been fair

of him? Though? It sounds like he got a little angry with it this week by some of the stuff I read. Just one of the quotes that walking out a practice field one day, it sounded like he had I'm not listening to it, but I'm listening to it kind of thing. Okay. But aside from aust On, here is anybody else. I think it's social media. The social

media world is all over him. Okay, all right, And and you know, you know me, if i'd criticized somebody, I'm also going to tell you if he's playing well, and he played well, I thought he played pretty well on on on Sunday, So I'm gonna give him credit for that. Let's see, we're going through the Let's see, we talked about Campbell, Miles, Jack had tin tackles in

the game. He led the way defensively in terms of that. Yesterday, Um, how about the back end guys, the safeties beyond Wingered, how about ray Shon Jenkins and yesterday's game, he's a good way. He was Okay, he's a good player. I thought Malcolm Brown did a couple of things here and there,

but Roy robertson Harris's he was out. It was I believe an ankle if I remember right last week, not having him in there showed up Hamilton's stout against run Um Chase on what's the statue, because it wasn't great Chason three combined tackles, two solos, one assist, and the rest goose eggs. And I'll check the amount of plays he played for you. He you know, and it's kind of been that this season so far, right, Pete, It's not like he's had a breakout day yet in three

weeks in the regular season. One of the few first founders left on the team, you know, well here and that's the thing. Now, now you're evaluating that draft, you thought you got your one of your edge rushers at a cover corner and as of right now you have neither because the corners gone and the edge rusher is not rushing. Yeah, Chason played thirty one snaps. That's of the snaps yesterday. They were sixty seven defensive snaps in

the game. Yeah, I mean, he's just he He might be one of those guys were eventually it just goes on and when it does, you know, we've seen that before, Like Jack Barrett was a guy that initially wasn't a great great pass rusher and started doing it. So maybe it gets because he's got a lot of athletic ability, but and he's been better this year. It's just where

he was drafted. He will be always judged on being an elite edge rusher and if he doesn't get there, he's never you know, Dot THEE Faller was the same way. He was always going to be graded on being an elite edd dreusher. Remember Dote Faller was good against the Ron. He was tough, he was physical, and he fall into whatever Saxy had. The one good year and with the Rams when everybody doubled Aaron Donald need to an advantage

of it. But he's not an elite ed drusher. He's just a good football player who is a decent ad drusher. And they need Chase On to become a good football player who's a decent addresher because right now he's not a decent edge rusher. He doesn't provide him anything from there. So the you know, there were a lot of names on that injury report last week, and one of those

has been traded today. And c J. Henderson, if you've just joined us for Mr the news today, C J. Henderson traded of the Carolina Panthers in exchange for a tight end who was undrafted back in seen. They swapped some draft picks in there as well, So a lot of moving parts. Yeah, Dana Arnold's coming to the Jags. The third round pick from the Panthers. The Jags give up Henderson and a fifth round pick in the trade today. That was done this afternoon. And UH, in fact, Pete

by the way, some news a little bit ago. The Jaguars have placed a wide receiver Tabe on Austin on i R designated to return UH and they've signed kicker matthew Right to the practice squad and released Philip Dorset the second from the practice squad. So um, matthew Wright was at Central Florida if I remember right, Pete, he was with the Steelers for a minute, then was with the Tampa Bay Vipers, and the XFL was drafted by them.

If you're into that and then the Steelers, I the short week might be the only thing that saves it, Pete. In my opinion, well, if this kid comes in and booms it for the next two days, then don't you think you can't make a deal. Make it look kickers are weird, it's a weird. Just make your damn kick, because that's all I ever say. If I was a coach and Mike kicker miss one, I'd be all over. I mean, come on, dude, that's your old job. You stand around all day and you kick. That's all you do.

That's you You get paid. And if my my mistaken lambo is making like four and a half million at least next year, well okay, make your damn kicks. And if you don't make your damn kicks, you're gone. There's a million kickers out there. If you find one, and then he gets into a rhythm, you'll have him a long time. You want to see Jason Myers, Remember Jason Myers, he finally missing it, made thirty six in a row. JPT finally missed yesterday. Yeah, okay, another one. Matt Gaye

for the Rams. He bangs them through from everywhere. Well, Matt Gaye was let go by the box. And so once you get one and he gets a Lambeau was released. Was that guy too? He was exactly that guy until he's not. Now now maybe the confidence is gone. So you get rid of me. Get another one, right, and I get the fifty yarders and all that. That's long range. He's always been pretty automatic and those also. But when you start missing extra points, that's when, at least urban

Meyer said it too. You start missing extra points, that's when you start gotta start bringing some other options in. And that's what they've done. Pete. Let's take a time out. We'll come back plenty more ahead. We are Baselli free until five thirty today. So what a program this is going to be for the next forty five minutes or so. He'll be back with us in a little while. Your social media questions when he returns we'll go around the NFL early in the second hour. Coming up in just

a little bit. That's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XEL, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, presented by Jet Home Loans J P. Shattick with CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Frisco. Busy schedule coming up at Daily's Place feet What a couple of weeks it's been already the last couple A little bit of a breather here before October.

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Osborne is kind of country. Um, their brothers named Osbourne. Well, I figured out the musician. I've heard of a suicide boys, I don't know. I don't know who that is. Yeah, I'm not sure who those guys are. And what's a R I don't know. I have no idea. So you're old to then j P apparently. So yeah, last week I went to to last week Pete Santana, which was fantastic,

was very awesome. I had seen him once in a smaller kind of a festival setting and he was an hour and fifteen minutes and they had to get off stage and all the hits, it was all the old stuff. He played for two hours and ten minutes straight without a break. It was outstanding. I bet that was fantastic. And then Counting Crows a couple of nights later, and they were very okay, They're okay to me. Who's your like? Mid nineties? You know it was probably right in your wheelhouse, Pete,

what did you lose mid nineties? You gotta go back a couple of games, dude. I mean, I'm a Earth Wind and Fire guy. I love the old I mean, I've seen Journey now without Steve Perry, but the guy is very good at saying I like all that old rock stuff and Eagles, Um, how many Eagles are left? Like Don Henley and like two others? Right, everybody else has gone, right Timothy Schmidt. The guitar players still there? Yeah, there they got They're still there. The Eagles is one

of the best shows I've ever seen. I mean, I've seen you two, I've seen Elton John you know, but I'm not the new stuff, is I. I don't pay attention to it that much? Right, we need to get you back up here and get Baseli to get the couch one night when we get like Alice Cooper is coming in a few weeks, let's all go to Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper, Yeah, why not? Like schools out for Yeah? Absolutely, he's Freeley is Loopening playing with him from Kiss coming on?

That's not one of my That's not my cup of tea either. That's you said, It's that's right. At the same time, are you talking about get me some earth Wind and Fire in the Gang? Okay, okay, you're that that's more of your scene, not the the hard rock. No, Okay, eighteen in a row, Pete. It is so painful to think about that. And Urban is gonna get a lot of the national heat for especially this week and a Thursday night game coming up. Right, it's not his fun.

I mean, they he inherited three the last three are, but not the first fifteen before that. Um, it's just it's got a break at some point, right if they, like I said earlier, if they just hold onto the ball.

They're doing some other things. Okay, they're playing pretty good defense right now, they've got to take away Finally the other day, if they can hang onto the ball in the red zone, maybe they scored some points, hit a field goal or two, you win a tight ball game, and then that might change the whole mindset of everybody in the building here. But but okay, the Texans were awful on last Thursday. And yeah, I mean, and I know they didn't have and it was week one, though, Pete, like,

you know how week one. I mean, let's look, if you want to look at it realistically, they showed improvement this past week. They were better Jimmy Johnson fifteen his first year with the Cowboys. So it's it's a process. It's gonna take time, but you can't be trading away the first round corner after So what did he end up playing eleven games? There wasn't even his ten games and they didn't play yesterday, so it's ten games. I'll tell you exactly here. It just doesn't look and there.

You know, Look, maybe the kid doesn't love it, or they had an issue with him, or he they wanted him more committed, or he didn't like them, or whatever. The reason they played ten games. Ten starts ten games. You don't trade. You don't trade a first round top ten corner after ten games. You try and work it out with him the rest of the year at least. And then it's not like somebody wound you and said, Okay,

Carolina desperate for a corner because they lost. J. C. Gord calls you and says, we'll give you our first round pick or our second round pick and a later pick. They got a tight end that is expendable because Tommy Tremble, a rookie tight end, is actually playing well, and a third round pick for a fifth round pick. I just didn't I didn't like it. I didn't I don't like I don't like to trade at all. And and by the way, if they trade for Ian Thomas from Carolina.

Then that means they'll have gone Chris Man, Hurts, Ian Thomas, and Dan Arnold all panther tight end. So maybe they ought to make that deal just to complete the room again. Huh. By the way, Chris Man Hurts asn't blocked as well as his reputation since he's been in Jacksonville. Well, that's a little bit of a yeah, a little bit of a thing. We'll get into that when we come back. I saw your tweet on that earlier. Today's second hour of the program coming up, we'll go around the National

Football League as well. Tony Vaselli do back at five thirty. Set your alarms accordingly, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented Jet Home Loans on a Monday on the Jaguars Digital Network, Mike Dempsey at Fat Tony Jaguars Today, All Jaguars All and m bel All the Time tended New Weekdays on ten ten x L. The Bengals are playing very well in a big, huge win. Um, they're playing at a high level. You know, we through three quarters or you know, the first game, nothing, second game, we made it through

a half that we're playing pretty well. Third game we're getting. So we're just you know, I'm looking for custom improvement. I'm looking for loyalty and faith in the locker room, which I have, um that's never waivered. Um. And you know, you know I'm not taking anyway from Cardinals. We played growing up and they don't make some mistakes. Could could have won that game. There's that coach Urban Meyer today in the post mortem of a Jaguars loss in week three,

third one, nineteen the final. It's our number two of Jaguar's Happy Hour. My name's J P. Shadrick Pete Frisco alongside CBS Sports senior writer joining us from South Florida. Tony Boselli is out until five thirty ish. We'll see if he's slides back in earlier not. We'll get to your We'll go around the league here in the next segment coming up in just a little bit and recap some games. Here's some calls from around the league yesterday.

And then when Tony returns, we'll get your social media questions and um, you know, keeping it Real by Woodbridge by Robert Mondabie. That's all coming up in this hour of the program today, Pete, So you have it Cincinnati p quick question for you, A quick not a quick question, but a quick note was that Myers three losses now, and the last time he had three losses in the season was when he was eight and five for the Gators in two thousand and ten. I think it's right.

They lost three in a row that year in Florida. Yeah, and then he walked away after that season, he did. Yes, Yeah, So I'm not saying he's an walk away. I'm just saying that that was that year. But it's been a long time since he's had to deal with any type of losing. Um, Yeah, you're right, and that was that's the last doesn't strike me as a good loser, not that anybody's ever should be a good loser, because I mean, but why would you be? Yeah, you know, I mean

that like this right now should should not be. It's not fun. It's not good what's happening right now, and everybody should be salty about it and try to go out and get better and move past it. He Uh. If I'm a mistake and I was watching the game and I haven't watched the TV play, I watched the tape today, but I watched when I was watching the game in our studio yesterday in our green room when

the interception when the pixis happened. Is that not him on the sideline throwing his hands up if you can, if you run the end zone shot of the pick six to go check it out. I think you could see urban Meyer going his hand. I wouldn't be shocked by that, right, I mean, he has emotions just like everybody else, Pete. He's not a robot. And so I heard today on the I don't know, I was listening to some stuff from up there that he was. He

could have vetoed the call, but he didn't. That's right, he said he after the game, at least in the prost game press conference, he said he kind of heard it come over the headset and didn't didn't say no, so they went for it. But hey, I mean, if they block it up, as we said earlier in the first hour, Pete, if they block the three time All Pro J J. Watt, who's stunning inside, then it's a long play touchdown. In an ideal world, this is not

the offense urban Meyer's running. It had a little which is more, it had a little more yesterday than in the first series, and I had to be honest with you. We talked about that last week. He had to run a little more. He did all that. Yeah, and there was actually a play at one point. I can't remember where it was where had Trevor pulled that, he would have run for a touchdown easily. Um. But I just

think I don't know. The higher of Bevil is a weird one because his scheme and his scheme don't really mesh. So getting to the root of that is finding out where where did that come from? And he recommended him and he got Schottenheimer in there too in that mix. Don't forget about Well, they might have had paths cross at one point. Bevil did coached the Big Tent at one point, so maybe there's somebody there. He was at Wisconsin, wasn't he He might have some he played it was

Wisconsin back on the old days. But yeah, yeah, I think he coached there. But I don't know. There's this because usually these coaches higher guys that are recommended to him where they've met him across paths at some point, like like we talked about George George Warhop and him in their days at in college Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah, so I just think. And one thing about George Warhop we've had we've been critical of him at times. Lines playing okay, not awful and not great, but okay. I thought Cam

was good yesterday. Um he did you know that's a good pass Ruster. He's playing against the Chandler Josie did a good job on him. Uh A. J has had his moments where he hasn't been as good this year. I don't think. I think Linder struggled a little bit, you know, and how in past protection he's had problems were guys. They had problems with some stunts yesterday. That that that I'll say. And j J Walk can be a pain because he shoots gaps and he doesn't do

things in conventional way. And he had some where he came out like he you know, there was a play. For the most part he did. Cam Ram has a pretty good job. And Chandeler Joes remember Chandler Jones knifed around him one time at a run play and tackled the tackled the yea. Um, but I thought I think

the line could be a couple. You know, it takes a while and it's this isn't just something that's going on with the Jaguars offensive line play struggling because it struggled across the board in this league, because it takes time for these guys to kind of grow get grow together, and they don't get the work they need in camp with pads and everything. So it's gonna the line play

in the NFL is bad right now. Yeah, gameplay is about the only time you get a lot of pad work in really, But I didn't think they were awful. I just think hasn't been as good and that would be concerning to me. And past protection Cam Cam was terrible in the first game. He's okay, not great in the last two. And I love a j but he's got to pick his playoff and and yeah, I just and Drewan Taylor was a little better yesterday. The running game overall, they got James Robinson involved a bit more

fifteen carries yards that's a five point nine average. You had a twenty one yard or in there. He also scored a touchdown. He caught the ball six times in the passing game on six targets yesterday for forty six yards. So this Jaguars running game, there were moments though, where hide would come in and when hides in their pete. That sounds like on social media the fans are all over, why are you playing hide over Robinson? All this stuff. He's still getting five and a half a pop, Carlos. Hide.

You don't mean James Robinson to carry the load like he did last year. That's why you got hide. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have Hide getting more than five, four or five carries. That's it though, And I'd probably still give James Robinson more carries. I think yesterday, once he got going, you could see him get into a rhythm. He's he's a quicker back that he was last year.

You can see that. He said he's worked on that pete and you know, I don't know exactly how you know what he's done for that, but he made that a priority in this offseason too. Maybe not the full top end speed, he might not always have that, but a little quickness, a little shiftingness. And we were talking

to him. I had an event with him last week at virtual event, and we were talking about his ability to avoid maybe not full contact, right, he just a little shift he gets, uh, you know, little in a crease and doesn't take a direct hit often and that's that's you. And he exploded out of his runs a little bit yesterday. You know, I like what I saw from him, I really do. And you know, sixteen carries in the first two games was not enough. It just wasn't.

And so I think that's something they got to lean on more and more. I was just thinking about that yesterday when I was watching the game. How if I would and I know the locker rooms not open after games, right, it's not, but if it were, I was just thinking about how I would have gone in there back in the day and got over to James Robinson and said, hey, James, you know you get the carries and you put put

up the numbers. And he would have probably said, yeah, I need to get more carries, or yeah, give me those carries and numbers, and I would have had my story. Here's the headline right there. Robinson says he wants to touch there. It's like one day with Fred Taylor. I said, Fred, you think I think you can get to two thousands, You can get to two thousand friends, So I think

I get to two thousand this year. I had line Fred Tylers, I mean it's yeah, I just so the locker room isn't open at all JP after the game, so not for anybody. Just I think it's just a team, not that I'm going there. Yeah, I think that's it's very limited, and I know I'm not in that group. I'd have a hard time covering a team this year if I was the beat guy, and I know that, I know, I know the guys up there, you know

the Rock and Mark Long and and those guys. It's would be hard because you can't and this is a young team, so you don't have like veterans you can lean and you can't develop relationships. And that was the

whole thing of covering the team is developing relationships. Like I can only imagine in if the locker room were open, the stories that would be coming out of that locker room, because speaking from firsthand experience, when I covered Kauughlin in the early years, the players had stories for me every single day, and so there would be stories about Urban every single day because they're like Coughlin feeling his way around the NFL and finding out that these are grown

men and he's got to learn that and it totally learns that until he learns that it's going to be a disconnect with his players, and they can tell all they want about Rah Rah Ross just boom bag, win one for the varsity sweatshirt or whatever. That doesn't play in the NFL. And so I think until he and he will learn it because he's a smart man, he's a smart football coach. So he'll learn it. He'll figure

it out. I just know he'll figure it out. I don't I don't have any doubt that he'll figure it out because he's won too many football games not to figure out how to win games. The stuff that you prioritize in college isn't what you prioritize in the NFL. And when he figures that out, and it might be this week, it might be five weeks from now, it might be after the season's over, he'll become a good NFL coach. But you know, playing for the coach, no,

that's not in the NFL. You respect the coach, you try and let him guide you in the right direction, but you're not playing for the coach. We know what they're playing for than any coach who pretends that that's not what they're playing for is misguided. You want your players to respect you, and you have to respect them, But you're as man the man, not man to college seventeen year old, And that I think is where the

disconnect is right now with Urban. But it's all it's always ever known, So you and he's a smart man and a smart coach. He'll figure it out. It's just a matter of fans in Jacksonville don't want to sit here and watch him figure it out. Like for example, this c. J. Henderson thing has just reeks of it, like he didn't want to do what he didn't want like it just to me And this is me guessing and some of the things I've he c J. Henderson didn't want to do what Urban wanted him to do.

And I get it, you're the coach. But there might have been a way, Like there was an incident where he rode the bike. I heard where he was riding the bike doing to practice and c. J. Henderson felt embarrassed by it or at one point and I just heard that through the grape fine and and so when that stuff happens. Coughlin used to embarrass players all the time, all the time times five hundred what Urban has done.

But eventually he weeded out the guys. And so maybe this is just the start of the weed out process. I just wouldn't weed out a first round pick ten games into his career. I try and figure it out. And by the way, if he doesn't love football, there's no fixing him. And you do hear stuff that maybe he doesn't love the game and you can't fix him. If that's the case, then they got a tight end

in a third round pick for him. Okay, And I think at a journeyman tight end in the third round pick for a guy who's drafted the top ten after

ten games, but not a good trade. The point is, Okay, if he doesn't love it and you know it and they know it, then maybe, ok he play any worse than the guys who do love it on that field since he's been when he was on the field last this year twice here, here's what you noticed about C. J. Henderson, And I go back to a preseason game when he didn't play for a while and they came back and he made a really nice play in the preseason in the middle of the field. He batted the ballway. There

wasn't a bit of emotion one bit. Now somebody tweeted at me and you, I think on here and said that Shaquille Griffin and and I think it was ray Seon Jenkins talk today and sounded like they didn't really you know, sometimes you say of a guy, because I've been around guys get cut. Oh I remember when I j Rising got cut and he never left the locker room. They sat around them and before you so guys respect players,

they'll they'll defend them. And and I don't know this, I'm just putting this out there with somebody said on the tweet that maybe they weren't so broken up by the fact that he's not there. Just listen. And I didn't catch all that live. I went back and listened to summar rati On Jenkins comments on it, and you know that the question was more about it seemed to me at least, you know, the communication was their distance?

Was there something like that? And and how do you deal how do you get a player involved in your group? And he said, well, we're happy with the group we have. And you know, sometimes there's different ways to communicate with different said he was They said different, he was different. That was part of That's where I was going. So it was part of that sometimes you have a different way to communicate with somebody who might hear it differently.

That's kind of how I perceived the quote from Rateon Jenkins. I don't think he was calling, Oh, this guy's a different good amount of here. I didn't see it like that. But that's the quote between That's the headline, right, That's going to be the headline that's out there because of that little no. You could read between the lines when a guy's talking to you and figure it out. Ragion Jakins is a self made player who got himself a fact contract by working hard. He is a captain to

that team. And if you have a corner who has top tenability and he's letting it rot because he's not in love with the game or putting in the time and the right work to do it, then you don't have you don't want to deal with that. I mean, you've been around people, you work with people that they skate by and you're like, what are you doing? You know they want it now, they want all the trappings of it, but they don't work at it. That That's that to me is one of the most frustrating things

in life. Go do you do? You? And if you're Rachel Jakos, and he did what he did, and he made himself into a big money player by working his butt off, and he's respected in that locker room. Of course, you're gonna be put off by the guy who doesn't. It's not a problem anymore. He's now a Carolina Panther. We are back in a moment. We'll go around the National Football League, get into some of the games yesterday. There were some really good ones around the NFL. This

was one of them. By the way, there were a lot of things that happened in this game. It didn't turn out the right way, unfortunately for the Jags. We'll go around the NFL also, and about five thirty or so, maybe we'll see if Tony Wasselli returns for the stretch run of the program. Today, secure the best seat to the best price. Become a Jaguars season ticket member today visit Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or called nine four six three three two thousand. Yes, season tickets are still

available for the Jaguars this year. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. When Jaguars news breaks, will hear about it first on ten ten X out home of the checks in Bill Jaguars Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. Glad you're along with us After a Jaguars lost in Week three, j P Shatdrick with Pete Priscoe. Tony Vasselli due back at five thirty. So the ratings, what do you what do you think the chances are he's back in five thirty? You're taking

the over the under as it's gonna be after five thirty. Yeah, okay, you might be right. We will find out about oh ten minutes or so little what what what is the better chance of happening the Jaguars not getting the streak or Basselli being here before five thirties? See, that's not even right, Pete, come on, come on, Pete, Pete. They're gonna win a game. Okay, then you think Vasselli is gonna be here before? All I'm saying is the Jaguars

will win a game before they break the record. Yeah, I think I think we're there's a better chance that they win a game than Basselli gets there before. I'm gonna agreement with you on Thank you very much, thank you. Let's and I don't think they're gonna win a game, but I don't think he's gonna be there before five. That's what it is. Let's go around the National Football League and hit on some of the games. Yesterday the Bills, What a day for Josh Allen forty three twenty one

to win over Washington. Yeah, and that Washington defense, I thought it was gonna be dominant, Jack del Rio, what the hell's wrong with that defense? They have a four man rushed with sweat and young on the edges and Alan and paint on the inside. They drafted the first round linebacker is a good player, and they give stop anybody can't do anything. It's incredible, can't do and give it up thirty points in two games this year. They

give up thirty twice all year's incredible three games this year. Yeah, the Cleveland Browns over the Bears twenty six to six. Fields might be hurt now for the Bears. And all three guys are you know, possibly starting for the Bears this week coming up? Yeah, And I heard his hand isn't that bad, so he'll probably play. But they didn't do him any favors. Jp. It was bad that poor kid was brutalized. You would think they would get him outside the pocket, move him around a little bit, us

his legs. They did none of it. He stock back there and they got sacked nine times nine. He was hit a bunch more. He was brutalizing. It was terrible. The rookie quarterbacks are one and ten. I think, yeah, one in ten starting nine times? That right, It sounds right to me. Oh and three for Lawrence, oh and three for Wilson and one for Mills. That's seven. Oh and one for Fields that's eight and one and two for mac Jones. So one one in ten is not good.

The Ravens over the Lions nineteen seventeen. The last second field goal all from Dan Miller on the Lions radio network on the losing end, Sucker's ready, there's the snap spot out kick on the way. It is up and it is off the croft car and throw all my goodness, are you kidding me? Justin Tucker for sixty six hit the croft bar and it bounced through and the Ravens are celebrating on the field. The longest field goal in the history of the NFL has just beaten the Detroit Lions.

It's a heck of a call. On the losing in by Dan Miller. There pete and sixties six, how about it? Well, a couple of things. They completed a fourth and nineteen pass in that drive and from their own end should never have happened. They at a delay of game. They shouldn't have had the kick and should have moved back five yards. Never makes it and there was a grounding. I thought that they didn't get called. I don't know

what Lamar Jackson was doing on the play. He threw it out of bounds, but he was in the pocket and so they got away with one of the Ravens. It feels bad for the Lions, but I'm gonna give Dan Campbell credit. That team plays hard and they played through all the way to the end, and you can see there they're doing things that they're not there. They have no talent, apparely any talent, and they're playing hard. I give him credit for that. Your guy, Justin Herbert

four touchdown passes yesterday the Chargers over the Chiefs thirty. Okay, Trevor Lards will be a star. I have no doubt about that. I just watched some of the throws he makes, and I can understand and see it. You can see it, but did I wars could have picked Justin Herbert instead of They could have traded up with nine and the two picks and gone to get Herbert, and they didn't. We can play this game, love rafts, but but you could have could have had Russell Wilson, could have had

been Roethlisberg. I know, but but they were in a position with two first round picks to go make the move. It's not often you're in that position. So but yeah, the kids special, there is there is something and Trevor Lawrence has a lot of the same things. You could just watch it and see it. It's like I said, the throw in the end zone yesterday that Lawrence made the chart. A few people on the planet can make that. Justin Herbert's the same kind of guy. A few people

can do what he does and nothing phases him. That was fantastic. That was a great game. And Mahomes they turned up all over three times. You can't win that. You can't win turn it and over like that. It sounds like Andy Reid is okay as well, which is good news, thank God. Good Saints over the Patriot and Jamis had a couple of touchdown passes quickly here Pete. Yeah, and uh, that one surprised me a little bit because of everything. Sean Payton's good in that role. We're not

supposed to win. People think we're done. We're on the road three straight games. Look what we did and they made mac Jones look Ordinar mac Jones that we gotta slow the hype train on mac Jones a little bit too, m The mac Jones hype train is coming to a stop. The Falcons over the Giants, boring game seventeen fourteen. So we'll move along to the Bengals and the Steelers, and the Bengals just beat the heck out of these guys

and just dominated him, just dominated physically up front. And you know, Logan Wilson linebackers a really keep an eye on him this week. He's a good player. I loved him coming out. Um, he was one of my favorite guys in the draft and he's starting to develop into a real quality linebacker. That's that's an interesting team with a lot of young players. The Titans with a big

win over the Colts in the Division sixteen. Derrick Henry goes for a hundred and thirteen Tannehill throws three touchdown passes. There in control of the South with back to back wins. Now, Broncos, excuse me, Broncos blank the Jets P twenty six zip. What in the world is at The Jets are the worst team in the league. Jackson might be on the longest losing streak of all, but the Jets are the worst team. They stick, They're bad, They're young, but they're bad.

Onto the Raiders in overtime against the Dolphins, Brent Musburger the Great with a call on Raiders Radio of the game winner. Good snap, good hold, jack pot Baby. The Raiders become the first team in history of the NFL to win their first three games against teams that all won at least ten games a previous season. Bring on the Chargers, that's Brent Mussburger. Of course, you believe in

the Raiders, Pete. I'm starting to. And let's give former Jaguar head coach Gus Bradley some credit because he's taken the defense that was a disaster a year ago and he's made it into a decent unit. Right now, they're not good yet, he's made him into a decent unit. And they were are from that last year. So we'll know more about them this week though, isn't it funny? JP Tom Brady plays at New England and everybody's raven about the biggest game of the year, the biggest game

have a regular season game. It's not even one of the three best games of the weekend this weekend. Yeah, I mean this one. Yeah, Chargers, Chargers and UH and Raiders, Broncos and Ravens's not even in the top three. It's huge. Now, of course it could be a historic evening because Tom Brady could set the all time passing record as well in that game, So I probably will. You only need to come yards moving along now, Rams over the Bucks

twenty four. What happened with the Buccaneers? They got beat up. Their defense is had too many injuries on it right now. They're not very good on the back end. And and Matt Stafford. I'll play Tom Brady. It's really that simple. Likes over the Seahawks thirty to seventeen. Your guy, your quarterback up there and Kirk Cousins with three touchdown passes through for three in the game. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal, And I gotta get because I criticized it,

but he was outstanding. Stood in there, took shots, took shots, made throws. That offense is good. They didn't even have Dalvin Cook and Madison had a big day. Alexander Madison bad on defense. Bad two weeks in a row where they look terrible on defense, and then the game of the day, I thought Pete Packers over the forty Niners. We go to Westwood one. Ryan Radkey had the call of a third down conversion and the game winner. Three receivers right to to the left, Rogers back to pass.

He looks, he throws down the middle, Adams hazard and goes down inside ten seconds left. Packers trying to get lined up. Seven seconds left. Rogers goes under center at five seconds, takes the snap. He spikes the football. Rogers the pulp of the fist. Crosby is coming out, a chance to win it. Wow, Crosby is ready. Here's the snap, ball down, the kick is on the way and it is good. Packers win facing Crosby from fifty one and the Green Bay Packers have stood the San Francisco forty Niners.

They win it thirty What a game, what a finish. Ryan Rankey with a call on Westwood one, and I think he summed it up pretty well to get in there, Pete, what a finished. Hey, I've never heard him call a game. Is he new, guys? Pretty good, he's been at it for a little while. He does a number of different sports for them. Uh. He was actually in the Pacific Coast League when I was at the same time. And he does a bunch of Westwood One thing. Still he

lives out in Reno. Still. Um, great, pretty good, pretty good, pretty good? Not bad? Um, that was a great games messed up to finish. They snapped the ball their touchdown play with twelve seconds on the play clock and they had no time outs left. There's no no reason that they had all their time. There's no reason to do that. They left too much time when the clock rogers. Unbelievable And and by the way, green Bay dominated most of that game, dominated most of the game. There you're having

a look around. The National Football League coming up. Allegedly, Tony Vasselli will be back with barely moved left Tony. Now get now you're in my shot. There he is. He's he's a little late, but we will have Tony Vasselli, the pride of the Jaguars left tackle. He's back on set when we return. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans ten ten x hour, Home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's

called a worthy bird. So he was, He's just like, the whole line is his own and we're trying to sell a run on the front side. And then I said, I can get around to the eam is scraping up the is on the backside and try to you know, give the quarterbacks importation on the back side. Yeah, that he's supposed to. Jj Watan can get behind there. Oh yeah,

because you know when you useoning like that. J J was the guy he doesn't really take on contact in the run game, so when he felt the run, he used to try to jump around to go to opposite diriction and derictions you're going. So that's just j J B and j J. That's Jawan Taylor. Earlier today in the aftermath of the Jaguars lost in week three, thirty one nineteen the Cardinals a winner over the Jags and

welcome back. Is Jaguars Happy Hour and it's time now for Keeping it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open Up a winner today Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Mundavi, J P. Shadrick, Pee Prisco, Tony Vaselly. The topic today, gentlemen, how did the Jaguars offensive line play yesterday? Um? Overall, I thought they played well. I mean they ran the ball well, I thought. I mean a few too many hits. Um, I mean Trevor took

some shots. But overall I thought they did a good job. I mean J wants Jowan Taylor's explanation of the h flee flicker. I get what he's saying, but if I remember correct, I don't have to go back and look again. I don't think there was a edge threat. They did have the tight end back there, and somebody has to account for JJ like it's and again it's either Will Richardson or andrein world. Someone has to count for him. I don't care, like you can do the world worldly

worldly bird all you want. UM. I get what he's saying, and he's not wrong if someone can come off and take off edge pressure, if there is edge pressure, I didn't see any edge pressure. UM. Anyways, that's neither here nor there. The guy I want to call out specifically, UM is Cam Robinson. I think Cam Robinson's had a really good year so far. Like he got paid a bunch of money. Um, he was franchise, A lot of questions of what he would do, and he's playing good football.

He's playing like a franchise left tackle. He played against a guy named you know, Channel Jones coming in had five sacks against the Titans. I think he had two against the Vikings. Um he had been a menace to society, I mean a menace to quarterbacks and for the most part he didn't do much. He had He had a couple of hits, but they were on they were on twists. UM on games he made. Uh, Cam had a bad run block on that led to a tackle for a loss.

Here's Chandler Jones a stat line, by the way, three tackles, one tackle for the lost, three quarterback hits officially one fumble recovery. Yeah, and so the quarterback hits on the most part. One he got an edge late on Cam. The other really were two twists. And I watched three different tackles now, Cam being one of them, and Cam's the only guy who's really blocked him, and he, by the way, they didn't help him. He had one or

two chips the whole game. I watched the tape, Cam Robinson's playing really good football, and if he continues to play this type of football, you got to pay him. I watched the tape today too, and I thought he I said the same thing earlier, right j P. I said he played really well. I thought he handled him. You know you mentioned the pressure Tony, the one came on his thought that was on Norwell and the well didn't yu. I thought the line as a whole was solid.

I think Linder's pass protection has been a problem. We're looking at the one where a j J b him early, not just that. There were a couple of others. They seem to have problems with stunts. They they didn't pick up this, They didn't pick him. The stunts great. And I think the guy who's not who's probably to me that's standing out and not playing as well, is A J. Can Well. He's he's had a rough season. Yeah, yeah, I mean he's had a rough start where he played

so well last year. He's had a rough start. But let's focus on the positive. Cam Robinson, that was my big question coming in the year, what would he what would and right now he I am rooting for him. I hope he stays healthy. Banged up his shoulder a little bit and he was able to come back in, which is great news. He plays like this for the rest of the year, he is going to get a big payday. Hey big. And if they don't pay him here, someone's gonna pay him a lot of money because he

can block people. Norwell got banged up a little bit too and went out and Barts went in for a while and got pushed around. Um, the right tackle was a little bit better yesterday. I thought that he was the first right tackle's biggest issues. He said, so dang deep. He gives himself no margin for erit. He gets pushed back sometimes, like I don't understand some of the techniques things he does. But yeah, he did play better. He did.

He did a good overall good job. Okay, Tony, I got a question for you as a left tackle, yes, because this was on I saw this on Twitter and I wanted to ask you. But I'll ask you on here since we're talking about the outfit line. If there's a slide protection where to the left and the tackle and the guard is supposed to slide to the gap, but there's no immediate threat to the tackles left because

there's no edgesn't coming. Is the tackle then responsible or partly responsible for the guy coming on the inside between him and the other guard, Well you should say what I'm Yeah, you should. I mean, first of all, you don't go block air, so you should slide slow and use your body. You keep your eyes outside and use your body. Two, give that guy nowhere to go and help your guard out, no different than you'd want help from your guard. You know, made it inside because that's

the way I saw it. And I was watching the tunsil last week. There was a slide that you could tell they were sliding left, but there was no threat on the outside the tunsil and the guy came inside of him, but he didn't do a thing to prevent the guy for coming. And the Mr Offensive Line on Twitter, who thinks he knows everything about the position, said, oh, no, that was on the guard because it was a slide protection. If there's no threat outside your left, what do you

do it? Yeah? What are you blocking air? Why are you blocking air? Like? Hey, help your buddy out? And you know t J Lang played in the league and he said, look, I'm gonna differ with you guys here. Maybe that's the way the protection is planned, but there was no threat and he's got it immediately. Team Jay's right. I mean, it's like somebody, if I was the offensive line coach, I'd be ripping the left act like what are you doing? Why? And then I'd ripped the left

guard for getting beat. But why are you leaving the guy out hanging out to dry? Because guess what your job? Guess what your job at the end of the day is an offensive line block, block and protect the quarterback. Like this isn't about personal glory, Like go out there and block nobody. And and you know, I have to bite my tongue because I keep on almost saying a bad word about your buddy, like, well you should be a saying don't blank your buddy. Um, so I think

I know what you mean. You know what I mean, and so I'm trying to I know I can always get I mean, you played the position you played at the eyes level. I know i'd get the answer from you. If there's a live protection and you're supposed to slide to the left, the line slide and the left and there's nobody there you gotta block the guy well. And the only reason I know that is because we never actually slid in Tom's offense, who's always one on one, So I'd talk to somebody else who actually got to

benefit of playing the slide protection Tony. Do you ever have the whirly bird? Um, Yes, in the sense like you like it was a different whorly bird where you'd like go inside and like whirlybird around the end and come back when you could do this crack black crack block back on him the reverse. Wow. But yeah, And I don't remember if there was a threat on the edge. There was almost a positive Pete because I watched it this morning and I'm just, yeah, I get to it.

I don't remember if there were. I don't think there was any threat. I don't know why. I don't know where he was worly murdering too. Again though, if you're your assignment is the whirly bird and there's a threat immediately in your face, you can't let him. You gottad just your assignment. Yes, I have the tackle whirly bird. You blocked the aid right right right like you crash and Will Richardson never touch him. He can't crash again.

Norwell had the block. Yeah. First of all, he's like, you gotta block like inside out, like the threat is inside and like you know, like think like think like okay, if I were really burd and get it like a checkmark on my assignment. But J. J. Watt comes up again in the mouth. That's a demerit is that. Okay, here's what I want to ask you about that, because you you play, if you have a trick play like that, how many times in a week are you practicing that?

Couple day practices aren't that long? The line has to like for that exact reason, the line has to work on in a couple of different ways. Well, you should talk about it. First of all, it's not that hard, like you should be going over the meeting. Here's the look, this is where we're gonna get. It's what we expect. But if you don't, you know, I gotta protect you, gotta protect the guy inside guy. I mean, it's just

you gotta talk through it more than anything. So it's not like a hard it's not like a hard play to execute. So how many times do you actually practice it on the field? Couple actually answer the question, Pete, I said a couple, a couple to a couple of three. Well, a couple is literally two, a single is one, couple is too few is three. Several were saying it's only two, So thank you. You finally said something right, Tony twice whatever,

just shut up unbelievable social questions. We're gonna do that since I screwed up the timing of the show when we come back. Yeah, I wouldn't got a quick nine. I wouldn't play put. But it was a pot pot corse across the street that was keeping it real. Presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today Real Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundabi. Will wrap up the show with social media questions, and they were

pouring in. Today It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars did Little Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the home stretch on a Monday afternoon. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli has chosen to join us again. Let's get to social media questions as we wrap up the show. Today and move on to Cincinnati. In question number one in the mail bag today at m more thirteen underscore oh two Agree

or disagree? Joe Cohen is getting as much out of this collection of defensive talent as possible. Pete, Well, yes, Sunday he did. Um. They still gotta rush the past better somehow, some way. You gotta figure that out. Yeah, I disagree with you, Pete. I think, you know, take away the first game. I don't think they're good. In Houston. They weren't organized. It didn't seem like I'm the same, the whole team wasn't. Yeah, So I mean like that was the fourth preseason game. I think in Denver they

gave up twenty three points. They played good a little ben don't break. I mean, kept good red zone defense, force field goals. They have twenty four points against with the most high powered offenses in the NFL. Great on third down. I think Joe Cohen the last two weeks and his staff and this team have done a great job. Yes, they don't have a great pass rushort. They don't. I mean I think Josh Allen, if he had a little bit of help with someone else, maybe he could develop,

you know, have a better chance. I mean he had some nice rushes. I think he got held. You should have been a safety on the first one when he beat uh d J. Humphries inside he got about tackled, and I don't know how the official missed it. Um So I think Joe Cohen, I give him an A the last two weeks on defense and what he's what they're doing, and how they're stolen teams down all right, while you give it out grades, why don't give a

grade to the offensive staff. I gotta give it, uh Ce, I gotta give a C minus D plus, because when you score twenty point in two games in today's NFL, that's not very good. How about special teams, I give it as I give an F for our kicker, I give an A for our return team, and I give an auter. When you were gone, they announced that they signed the kicker to the practice squad. Yeah, I figured Obeau. I think I think they try to get through Thursday

night and then make a call comes. If it comes in the next two days and bangs the ball around, I get rid of him now I would too, probably, but I'm saying but that's I mean, the problem is a practice squad. It's just such a short week, so you can look at them though. That's all you can look at them. Yeah, I look at them all week, and then my guess is I probably make the change after Thursday night and just say time to make a change. Or if you know, something happens on the practice field,

Lambeau keeps missing him on the progress or something. How often you out in the practiciel now unless you gonna have like special kicking practices and they're out actually on the practice field right now. I believe that they're indoors tonight, but they're working at m Lambo makes a pretty penny, like north of four, it's health's a pretty penny to be Yankee balls all over the place here. I mean, only team the NFL not to make a field goal this year, and I gotta believe we're probably leading a

missed extra points by this time. Would not that I have no patience for kickers, because I think there's a million of them out there once they get into a groove, and we've seen that play out Jason Myers first and foremost. Matt Gay I mentioned it earlier. So if my guy misses a couple and two consecutive games got by kickers and running backs not high on Pete's priorities. Let's move along. Get pass rushers in cornerback, just don't trade them away

after ten games. Thank you, Pete. Let's move along. Question number two that's sick with at what trade of free agent signing can this team make this year and the off scenes to help Lawrence or we have to wait three years while they try to draft and develop because his weapons stink. That's aggressive. Well, I mean, I'll say this offensively. You gotta address I hesitate to do this because it's not But also let me say it this way. And I'm not saying and it's not fair to eat

and I'm not saying he was a bad pair. I don't want to have that discussion. He's hurt. But I watched the tape and he didn't do much against us except for one punt return. But Rondel Moore, the number four for the Arizona Um the first two weeks and especially against the Vikings, is like I'm watching him on the field, like, holy cow, who is this? I had to go look up one. I just started watching the tape of No Roster. I watched four I'm like, who's

this little here's this guy? He's like five seven, Like you need the pizza. Need to get speed on and it's not just straight line speed. You have to get make you miss speed on the field. That's first thing. The second thing, you have to get a tight end. A you need to get someone who can control the huh okay, you need to get a tight end that's dynamic, and you know, stretch the field and play the challenge the middle of how many are there, Tony? How many

are where are the dynamic tight ends? Travis Kelsey, Gronk, O J. Howard Kiddle, Oh Jay Howard play you're telling me? Oh J Howard? Is I walt? Somebody catches yesterday? Finally back on the field. It's been a while. I'm just saying that's the type by Waller Kittle. They're all later round picks, though, Janu Smith, Henry uh Hunter, Henry like keeping. I mean, there's how many first round pictures. I'm not talking about picks? How about this? T J. Hawkinson? How

about t J. Hawkinson? Yeah, there's one they need Henry Ruggs, t J. Hawkinson. I'll take t J. Hackets. I've watched him a couple of games now and he's that kid can play, So it's not no if I mean go get like you know, if you need somebody. I agree they need speed more than Okay, how about this Mark Andrews from Baltimore. You take him right now? Yeah? Speed speed? What was the first thing I said? Right? You would agree those speed is first speed and then the tight end.

But you can't do that now. It's offseason issue. I know nothing that there's no help coming this year. That's what it is. Question number three on social media today at duval forty three. The blatant disregard for Trevor's growth astounds me. Calling flee flickers when you're leading in your own territory has to be the doubest call I've seen in years. They were running the ball at will. The game was over after that. Thoughts on play calling question Mark.

The game was not over after that. There was still a one possession game, correct, but the momentum was come on Beta. They went three and out after that. Well, that's not my problem. That is our problem. Yes, it was, in fact our problem. The problem was they went three and out and that was our problem. I know, But that doesn't mean you have to go three and out after a bad play, like teams all the time recover from a bad play. Here's what happened in the next

drive for the Jaguars. By the way, hide up the middle four yards, Lawrence passing complete short left. Lawrence passed short middle to Jones for ten yards. Penalty offensive p I third and sixteen, Lawrence scrambles for ten punt. Team. I thought that offensive p I was like the one that was called on Arizona, was obvious. I mean Williams the tight and like leaned into him. But if you watched the p I offensive pass inference on the Jaguars,

they're just running crossing routes. The dB ran into the our tight end. Uh uh, what's his name? Man hurts Man Hurts Chris Manners. I did not like that was a call PETE you see all the time, not called. If you're just crossing and run into each other, that's not a penalty Tony one thing you mentioned man hurts Um not blocking as well as expected. No, but you didn't answer my question at the cross Why is that? No? I I agree that was not a past in affairs

an officials didn't screw up the goal. I was right. I didn't have to go three. Now playing as well, we have to ask him he's not blocking as well he's been. He was brought in to be a maler in the run game. Let's go back the other side. More questions. I don't want to talk about. Let's get more questions and the other side and the other time be quiet. I want to hear another fan question. Then we got to hear. Yeah, welcome back to the show. So you're JPS Monday night read. I don't want you

interrupting him again. Get it last. Let's get one more question. And then at Noman Muhammad twelve, Why would we trade C. J. Henderson for a guy who could have brought in during the off season? Well, yeah, Urban Meyers at that today, they were looking at it in free agency. Well then if you want it, Yeah, he was with Carolina they but why trade him for anything when you get ten games in? Yeah, it's it's really quick to give up on a top ten pick who has a ton of talent.

Now that tells me that there are such bad off the field issues that they thought he is. There's no hope. I mean that's maybe his dad told her, but he wanted the house, But Pete, would you agree with me? I mean, if you trade a top ten pick after ten games and not even a year and uh, not even a year and a half. The messenger saying they're so bad off field problems and I don't know what the answer. I have not heard anything, but there's something so like we just can't deal with it and don't

want to deal with it, so we're out. We're done. Well. When you go to his house and training can this is are usually a red flag. The only people I ever knew that where people were going to their houses. And I'm not saying this has been an exact same reason they used to less sneat is now the GM of the ramps used to pick up Andre Rods. Yeah, they're not going over for afternoon tea. I'll say that. I just I mean, well, I just tomorrow afternoon, I'm gonna make sure my dad calls my boss to let

him know that I'm okay with what's going. All right, that'll do it for social media questions. It's time for Monday Night Football and it's an NFC Eat showdown. First Places on the Line at Jerry's World in Big d. The Philadelphia Eagles at one and one, led by quarterback Jalen Hurts Gardner Minshew on the bench. They visit Dak Prescott on the one in one Dallas Cowboys. Who you got in Big d tonight, Tom Cowboys better quarterback. I think the Cowboys win, but I think it's close. I

think it's gonna be really close. With me. I said the Cowboys. You said the Cowboys. And by the way, you said Cowboys, big, I said, the Cowboys have the better quarterback. Listen, clean out your ears. Run this year. Zeke, Who's gonna give the ball today? Because everybody's coming down on him a little bit. Well, here's any thing so far in the first three Monday nights, I'm three and oh. In my picks, Pete is and I'm sorry, Pete is one on one. You were wrong Opening weekend? What was

that game? I picked the Raiders, You picked the Ravens. Correct. Yeah, there he is. Pizza out of here. You stop talk about Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, Joe Fortunato, Brent Reber, our entire crew. I'm JP Shadwick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.