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J.P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco recap the Week 2 loss to the Titans on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet HomeLoans and Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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It is Monday, September one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Albums presented by Jet Home Loan and now the squid Kick of sports Broadcasting. My goodness, Shade che Wow, welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday. After a Jaguars loss in Nashville, J P. Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco. We've got to show a head a review of the

Jaguars loss in Nashville yesterday. The final. The offense rallied with a really good second half, three straight touchdown drives to get back and tie the game thirty to thirty at one point. The defense a little slow starting again, but they did get off the field a few times in that second half to to get the Jags an opportunity to get back in the game. We've got your social questions in the second hour. We'll go around the National Football League as well. And here we are, guys,

Tony Pete thirty three thirty. This is um. This is this offense is is pretty darn strong at times and certainly was again yesterday. They're they're now tied for fourth in the a f C and points per game tied with the Kansas City Chiefs. By the way, Pete, how about that. I'll tell you what. If you're a Jaguar fan, you gotta be thrilled by what you saw. You've seen from this offense. And I'm not just talking about Minshew, I'm talking about everybody, all the young guys. Channel looks great.

Um as a dual threat weapon. He can run the ball into the back of here. We saw that. I think Robinson runs hard and tough. You have a running back, um, you know, Shark is not is not like he's an aging veteran. It's a good group. And then you look at the offensive line. I thought the offensive line was really good on Sunday. I haven't looked at any grades or anything, but just going back and I've been watch A twenty two clearly, but going back and watching the

game again. He had clean pockets all day. He wasn't really pressured all that much. Uh And the one when he got sacked for that big loss that was on him. He left the clean pocket. He was better at it. But offensively, if you're a Jagger fan, you've got to be excited about what you have in this young group of guys. Yeah. No, doubt about it. I thought they played well. I thought the offensive line was very good

in running and pass. Anytime you could have a three out of yard pastor hunder yard rushers, pretty damn good day. And uh that's what they did. Um, And they gotta they gotta figure out to start quicker. You can't continue to get into these holes where you're playing from behind. It happened again. They were a little bit sluggish. I thought Mini started a little bit slow, but he was outstanding,

I mean outstanding down the stretch. And you know, it's it's fun because I don't know about you guys were watching the game, it never felt like you know, once they got they got that first score and it was fourteen seven, you're like, okay, Like this team can move the ball and they do have weapons and they are exciting. And I give a ton of credit to Jay Gruden. I think you know, he is two for two in designing outstanding game plans and the guys have executed them

very well. So um, yeah, so much for taking um so much for being the worst team in the NFL. Uh this, you know it's early, so a lot can happen. They gotta get better defensively, they've gotta rush the pass. The better we're getting all that today, But overall, I think it would be pretty excited. This is a youngest team in football and they very easily could be two and oh right now, Tony, to your point that there were three real key drives that kept this game somewhat

within arms reaching. You mentioned the first one. They're the first touchdown drive to make it fourteen seven. It could have been three score game if they hadn't to score on that drive, a six play drive. And then the opening drive of the second half, they had the ball down two scores. They had just given up the field goal before halftime after the squid kick that hit the front line there, and then they go fourteen plays and just under eight minutes and punch it in with a

touchdown to keep it a seven point game. They answered the next Titans drive another touchdown drive of their own. So those those three, at least to me, were the three key drives to really keep this game within striking

distance to give them an opportunity. I thought the drive coming out at halftime was um a game changer from the standpoint that really I think they went down eight minutes control the clock run passed, stuffed it in for a touchdown, and my guests as they walked off the field right there and said, okay, this is our game, like we are going to win the game. Um, because

it changed how I mean I felt. You know, you go in after the way the half ended, you're a little bit frustrated down you know, two scores, but boy, after that driving like we got a ball game, boys, because I'm not sure the Dykes can stop the Jaguars. And when's the last time he said that about the Jaguars offense, that an opposing defense can't stop him. And the Titans had no answers for the Jaguars in the

second half. They really didn't. And and they have a bad defense and secondary look lost the times guys were wide open. They don't rush the pastor that well. You know I said that all along. Clowney is more name than game. And he did nothing. You're right, Tony. He played pretty good against Denver in the opener, but he did nothing on Sunday. He was nonexistent. And who else rushes the bad Landry? They don't rush the passer well enough. And if this league you don't rush the pastor, you're

not winning period. You will not win games if you don't rush the pastor, which I get. I imagine we'll talk to about in a little bit, because the Januars haven't exactly rushed the pastor all that well. Now the balls come out quick, so uh in fairness, but they haven't exactly rushed the pastor all that well either. Yes, we will get to that coming up, for sure. The Jaguars defensively, though, we'll touch on the big picture. Look at the defense here after solid obviously effort for the offense.

But for the second straight week, Jags are down right out of the gate, and this week it was fourteen zip. First two drives John hu Smith, Corey Davis. They go right down the field. First play is a sixty three yard or to open the game to a wide open tight end who is eating up green grass with every stride. And do we made the save there to save a game opening touchdown? With two plays later they were in anyway, second straight whek this has happened? Why is that, Tony?

And how do they fix it? Well? I mean, number one, don't. The way you fix is do not let it become a mental thing, like you cannot start believing, you know, we start slow and you know, here we go again type of mentality. You know, even a couple of bad plays early, you just can't do that. Um. And so you have to expect to start fast. You know, I've been on teams you start slow or you come out halftime slow, and you know, you try to change practice habits, you try to do things at the end of the day.

I mean, it has to be a mentality, UM that from the from the get go, we're gonna go out there and play and we're going to you know, execute at a high level, and we're not gonna we're gonna play with the urgency. It's almost like they play with more urgency when they get down and you have to have that sense of to see from the first kick. Um. It's a young team. Sometimes it takes time to grow into that. But they have to do that if they want to be a team that which by all signs

early in the season they can be. I mean, again it's very early, only week two. But if you want to be a team that come December is in the conversation to win the division, uh and or one of the three wild card spots. You cannot put yourself in a hole um. Now we've been able to come out of them. But you do that too often, you're gonna blown out one of these days. And we've seen many and many a tight end running wide open in Nashville against the Jaguars in their history. I mean, my gosh.

I can go back to when I was covering the team in the in the mid nineties and early two thousands, and guys were running wild all over the place, and it's been a problem. And it's the same type of thing where you get a guy out, slip them out and he's wide open, and that can't happen. That's just a bus that's just a bad coverage, and that an

easy way to get the team going. And I'll be honest, though, We're sitting here and I was watching the game and I was saying, this looks like it's gonna be bad. And they regrouped, and you gotta give him credit for that. They regrouped and that's pretty good signed for a young team to be able to do that. Oh be, we're in the you know we did the game from the stadium. Obviously, Jeff and I look at each other and go, oh fourteen nothing on the road in Tennessee. We've seen this

story before. Um, it could get ugly. Uh, but that's one thing about this team. And Doug said it from the start that he really liked this team. Um, that he was not worried about how they would handle adversity. And they're resilient group. I mean, they are unflappable. It's not like there's like hanging in the heads, oh my feeling sorry for ourselves, guys laying down, pointing fingers. They just keep on playing. And I got I'm gonna I mean, I don't know this for a fact, but I gotta

give Gardner Minshew a lot of that credit. I think there's a belief on that team, especially in the offense, that Gardener is gonna help, is just gonna hang in there and find a way to get it done. I mean, that's his mentality that's been from day one, and I think it kind of, you know, uh, goes throughout the team. I mean that feeling just spreads throughout the team, especially the offense, because they're a they are a resilient group. Yeah, he's feisty and fiery, and it kind of bleeds into

the rest of him. It really does. You can see it he jumps around, he can get on guys, and he's emotional. Hey look, I gotta give him. I gotta give him credit because I I thought they were getting buried after the start, buried and they didn't Doug Marone after the game, certainly, he has said he likes the mentality of this group, and though they wanted to get this win, of course they were right there on the doorstep of it, he still loves the way this group operates.

I mean, I know this team, and I feel, like I said, I feel close to this team. So you know, I know, I think I look at this game as I Hey, I know the things that you know, we've all got to do a better job of, um uh, that we can really help them out, and you know they can. You know, we could all come together, you know, coaches and players and you know, work up butts off and and and play football and make plays that you know we're able to win games. I think that's what's

what's what's going on. I think, um as far as all the other stuff, all the cliches that you know, you might want to say, hey, they came back, they worked hard. I never I never questioned that from this team. I really don't. Um so you know, the unselfishness that they have, you know, this doesn't matter. I mean they're trying to celebrate with each other and trying to get

somebody to make a play every time. So you know, like I said, we've got to just clean a couple of things up and uh, you know, on a quick, quick, quick turnaround Doug Maroon there. And that was after the game in Nashville yesterday. And you know, talking about spreading the wealth, eight different guys made catches yesterday. Ten last week, eight different players made receptions in this game. You saw

should not a factor again in the running game. So Jake Bruten is doing a bunch of different things in the offense to get everybody involved and and then of course it takes Gardner Minshew to spread it out to all those guys too. Yeah, and that's growth of the quarterback. I mean, you can't just look at one and get out. You got to get the two, three, and four and then get out. And I think there's a lot of

growth there from year one the year two. He's spinning his head, he's moving his eyes, and he's spreading the ball around and they have weapons. You know, there is DJ Chark an elite receiver, maybe not yet, but he has a chance to get there. But they have a lot of guys who gets the football, a lot of them held Cole is one of the most improved players on the team. I think he's uh yeah, he looks like a different guy out there, and so I think you could spread it around when you have a lot

of weapons. Even the tighten if for made a nice catch in the middlefield of Shaunessy's catching the ball. They have a lot of guys who can get open and catch the football. And when d D Westbrook, who's an pretty decent players sitting on the sidelines and active again, that tells you a lot about what you have at the position. Yeah, I agree. I mean, listen, I think Chinault makes him a lot better. I mean, he is

just a different type of receiver. He's a physical president, he's a big body, he's athletic, he's a great run after the catch guy. Um, they're better at the tight end position with Eifort and O'Shaughnessy. They're blocking better as well. Um, they're better in the backfield with James Robinson. I mean, he had another really good game, but let me tell you the biggest difference of this team outside Gardner Minshew maturing offensive lines playing well. Let me tell you what

when you block people. But you know this as well as I do. If you can block people up front, if you can run the ball and protect, it's amazing how much easier everything else is. And Jake Grohom said that at the beginning of the season, when I asked about the offense, he didn't talk about the receivers, he didn't talk about Gardner, he didn't talk about anything else.

He talked about the offensive line and how he really likes this group and a get and he felt like a game a great ends And guess what they are proving him right. And I was just one year early saying this is a top ten unit. Um, he's going back to it. He's coming around. Go look around the NFL. You'll tell me that you're ranked offensive line. They are a top ten unit right now. They are a good unit.

You don't score points, you don't get hunter yard rushers, you don't have clean quarterback pockets where guys could were quarterback can operate, and you don't aren't as efficient as they are unless your offensive lines playing well. Peter they were very good. They were very good. They were very good yesterday. You know who the lowest ranked offensive lineman

is on that team right now? No, Linder Well, you got hurt too, But I'm saying as a whole for the season, that tells you the other guys, we thought Taylor would get better, and he has. Robinson is playing for that contract, just like you said, Tony, you called that one. I'm gonna give you credit for that. He's and for the deal, and he's playing much better. His technique looks ten times better and and he looks like he's a different guy out there. Norwell's solid, played very

well and A J. Cann's playing well. Wait a second, Norwell is not solid, Pete. He is playing like one of the better guards in football right now. He was physically dominating again. A J. Canns ranked ahead of him on the PF grade. Let's not go too far down the p F well yet. Okay, let's tap the brakes today you declared we're not doing it. Tondt watched the tape. That's why I can't argue it. Can't argue it. This week, let's come back. We'll get on the defensive side here. Uh,

and and get into the safety talk. Yesterday Drew Wingered was on the field. Josh Jones was involved of course yesterday, but there were some issues on the back end, at least early in the football game. We'll get into that. The linebacker play ain't good again, defensive talk when we come back, and we can't wait to be do altogether again. The Jaguars are taking every precaution to keep our fans safe at t i A bank field this fall, from

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and make a team one dimensional. So you know, uh, you know, we know we want to stop the wrong with Dick Henry, but we want to stop the wrong with every team to get on the path. As uh as far as the pressure on Tennant here, I think we just gotta do better getting off the play action box and things like that. I think, uh, this game we've probably a little locked in a little bit too in the run kind of bared eyes and kind of worked out late to work against the past. But I

think that's just how it is with every game. I think moving forward, we're gonna just try to focus on that more because I really think that was a real big part of the game. I think our dvs will do a good job, but we just can't leave him out dead covering for about six to ten seconds. Avery

Jones defensive tackle. After the Jaguars lost in Nashville yesterday and Week two thirty three thirty the final Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick Tony was Selly, Pete Prisco your social questions coming up in the second hour program will go around the National Football League as well, But we continue our conversation about yesterday's game. On the defensive side of the ball, yeah, that was priority number one. They allowed eighty four yards on the ground of Derrick Henry.

Forty one of those came in one drive in the first half. In general, overall, I think they did a pretty good job, Pete. With Derrick Henry, what are you doing, Tony, You're on the phone and what is going on here in front of his It is a better looking picture, though, j Pete. What I got lost was reading back for twenty minutes and you're still on your phone. He's millennial. Jon's doing to read. I wasn't stop reading anything. What are you talking about? It's every Monday at four o'clock.

We're on the air, Tony. Just for the record. So I think they did a pretty good job. Uh So, I think they did a pretty good job with Henry. Yes, he didn't break away for the big long ones, but that did opens up some things in the past and game to play action game as we expected, kind of going in was a strong suit for the Titans, and they had guys running open. So overall, it was not the best day defensively because of those big pass plays over the top. Well, I mean I thought we were

mistaken where people were mistaken the discount. Ryan can number one. I think he's pretty damn good. I think how good? How good? Um, he's good enough to get you in the Super Bowl. I mean, he's accurate, he's athletic. Uh, he makes good decisions, he's great out play action passed. I mean he was the highest rated quarterback last night weeks of the season last year. Once he started, Um, they took the ball out of his hands in the

playoffs because Derrick Henry was still hot. Uh, when you look at the first two games, I think he's played outstanding football. Yeah, he's good. I don't know if he's good enough to carry a team on a consistent basis. Carried him on Sunday, he did. Let me ask you, do you think thirty one carries on Monday night impacted Derrick Henry And that's a lot of carries and wearing are in your body in the short time. Yeah, because he didn't look like he had the same pop that

he had against the ball. I don't think they're very good upfront either, by the way, Well, the right tackles just okay, the right guard, yeah, the center there was a little stiffs. Apple is a good player and Lawan is a good player. But Taylor Lwan and I haven't watched the tape of this week's game, um from Sunday, but last week against the Broncos, he didn't play well. No, he didn't, not at all. But they're they're they're interesting on office because they're creative. On offense, they know how

to scheme guys open. Well, I agree, look at their offense, Pete. They got Johnny Smith, who's a very good player. Corey Corey Davis is a good player. A J. Brown is a good player. Adam Humphreys is a very good Davis has been a disappointment up until that until this year. The last two weeks he played outstanding. Yeah. But and no, I get it, Tony. They have good they have good skill people, but they do a great job. I think Arthur Smith has done a really good job of using

what he has to get guys open. You don't agree with that, I do, but no different than I agree that Jake Gruden has a great game, had a good job. By the way, Arthur Smith is the richest assistant coach in the National Football League. Did you know that? Yeah, Dad's uh women FedEx dude. Yeah? Yeah, Um, But I mean, I I just don't. I mean, your point is fair

about Arthur Smith, no different than Jake Gruden. But I think Jake Gruden is a good But I think we're also pretty dangn talented at the receiver position, and I think Tennessee is very talented receiver. And I think, listen, I think Danny Hill is one of the better quarterbacks in the ANFC. Do you think differently of the Titans now than you did last week, now that you see him, yes and no. No. On offense, I thought they were

good offensively. I still think they're good offensively. I thought they're better defensively from the tape, which tells me the Broncos aren't all that great. Um, I don't think the defense is very good. It's kind of weird how they've been known as physical defense, run the ball team, and that's not who they are right now at all. They

are there, Listen, I mean I keep on saying. I mean the quarterback and the receivers, Derrick Henry is very good, and Derrick Henry is gonna rush for twelve thirteen yards and Derrick Henry is gonna take over games at times. And that's the that's the um, that's the luxury you have your Arthur Smith, that you have a running back that literally take over the game. But I would tell

you right now they're passing game. Is the strength of their team with that court, with the quarterback and the tight end receivers that they have that said would take us through. Go ahead, Pete. Sorry, No, I was just gonna say we're talking about the Titans because they're in that division and they are the rival in the division. I don't they still are to me. Um, I worry about them defensively, like Tony said, But Ken Tannehill do it when he has to do it, that's the concern.

I'm with you, Tony. I think he's played well. He played well for them. He's had times with Miami when he played well. But can he do it when he has to do it? Well? He did it when he had to yesterday when they had to go down to score a touchdown. He gotta pass interfere well, I mean late in the game to get the winning field goal, you gotta pass interference. That was highly debatable to get

that drive going. Otherwise he didn't do it well. People like that's not fair to do because you can do that a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of situations where they get a penalty here, they get this break here or whatever. The bottom line is, they scored thirty three points and he was the main driver of those thirty three points. And you go back to the hold on, go back to Denver when they had them a game

winning drive. I give that. That's two weeks in a row when they had to have a drive tanny Hill led them down on the drive. Is Tannehi better than Rivers? Yes? Is Tannio better than Watson? The Watson we're seeing right now and very good, I'll be honest with you, Yeah, I mean what I project Watson to be. No, But how they're playing this year, Panny Hills better. Is Tanny Hill better than Minshew? The way they're playing? I think it's a coin flip. You would take tanny over Minshew.

I said it's a coin flip. Do you know what I'm talking about? You're saying right now, the way they're playing. But for the long haul, would you take tannyo over Minshew?

How long is the long haul? In the fact that you're even the fact you're even considering the debate there is interesting because one is making a boatload of money the other ones in the second year quarterback who's drafted in a sixth round, like the only thing, I mean, the only thing I still like, And it's so unfair to mensh you like, but if I'm just being honest,

my hesitation still is the arm string. But like, as soon as I say it, and I say it out loud, it's stupid because I can you know, Drew Breens doesn't have a rocket for a right arm. Peyton Manning for half of his career, you know, the back half of his career, and have a rocket for a right arm. Um, there's a number of quarterbacks he won championships that did not have rifles for right arm. They were good in

the pocket, they're good decision makers. They threw on time, they saw things, and they had a moxy about him all things. The minshew have ken did he what was the deepest throw he made in the area yesterday? Um, he threw that one. The chart had to be that was the best. That's that's might be the only one in the year so far, right in the first game. But that's it. That he needs to throw the ball down the field a little bit more. That's That's one

of my criticisms. The other one, he still leaves clean pockets, He still gets to May he doesn't leave him all the time. But he feels this pressure starts doing that spin around stuff he does when he doesn't need to. Yeah, but he did it less this week than he did a week one. Yeah, I get it, I get I agree, So I mean progress, But like, like that's the only question I've got mints. You it's like his arm strength good enough? Is it? When he's at pep? I mean,

I don't know. I do this he made He made a throw with clown he coming right down his throat on a scat protection when clown he's unblocked to Chris Thompson where he put it in there where the best quarterbacks in the world would want to put it. That was a great throw. Okay, So he's on pace for forty eight touchdown passes it? Well, he is, right, he threw three and games right the first franchise. Is he the guy? Yes? But two games in he's on that pace, and I don't know if you can still say he's

the guy. That's the thing about numbers. It's a it's a most it's a small sample size, Pete. I know. But all I'm saying because we said before the season, if he got to forty and five thousand, that no doubt he's the long term answer he's the guy. Well, so he's on phase forty eight and what four thousand or whatever. So if that's the case, is he the guy? Do you know? You don't know. Right now? He's done some really good things and I've been nothing but impressed.

But by no means can you sit here and say after two games that he has proven to be the long term answer? Yeah? Um, and it might be that way all year long. That's right. Well, that's why you play the whole year peed I mean we I mean, it's and we shouldn't debate this every week, you know, because yes we should. It's fine. Come on, But he I mean he is. He has something about him. I mean he does. He has a guy's rally and they believe and he like finds ways to get it done.

Like you don't feel like you're out of it when he's playing quarterback. But if you're a Jaguar fan and there are many of them out there, do you hear from them all the time? Do they think he's the guy? I think I think more and more are yes. I'd be curious to see. And you can hit Basel up on Twitter and we can read him online. Do you think he's the guy? Used to think right now, after two games, is Gardner Minshew the franchise quarterback for the

long term? Legitimate question? Numbers are going to get that much better than this. Let's be honest, He's not gonna throw three a game for an entire season. Do you think he is? I don't know. It's almost like you don't know. You can't say. I can't say. I mean, just say he goes out and continues to play this way and the defense is still bad and they lost, and they had the first overall pick. You're still gonna pick the kid from Clemson. You're going to no matter what.

So you can't say, I mean, okay, I'll give you an example. Are the Jets. If the Jets end up with the worst record, are they gonna pick Trevor Lawrence and get rid of Donald? Yeah? I bet they do. Well. Okay, let's say the Panthers have the worst record. Are they gonna pick Trevor Lawrence and get rid of Teddy Bridgewater? Yes? So I think it's in the same kind of situation.

I think it's the same. You might be so wowed by the generational talent, but you know, how many, like, here's a better question, Pete, how many teams we have the number one overall pick would not pick Trevor Lawrence? Okay, well, let's look at the teams at the bottom. Well, let's come back, Hey, let's come back. We can get in this conversation throughout the evening. We got a lot to get too though in the first half. Hey, we got cut off, Yes, we got got off. A p took

us in the wrong direction as usual. Were back in a moment. Shut up, We're gonna get back in the quarterback talk. We got all season for that. We need a touch of the defense to where the pass rush go? Where is it to start the season? Plutty more ahead your social questions in the second hour, It's Jaguars Happy

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H Yeah, I thought even even the first half, a couple of old runs that you know, they almost came out, um, um you know, and he's getting positive yardage and you know he had had you know, really good catch and um that they I think what you what you're what you guys are seeing now is probably what you know I've been seeing all the camp. You know, just uh, you know, real steady, good football player. Um, you know

something there, he's gonna find it. Uh, he's not gonna not gonna make mistakes and and and lose yardage for you. I think that that nature and try to keep the chains going. Um, you know, he's a tough runner. He's got a little burst, you know, getting through the second level. I was happy to see him take that one, you know obviously to the end zone. But um, you know

he's he's solid. Head coach Segmaron after the game in Nashville yesterday and his thoughts on James Robinson, the undrafted rookie running back with his first career one d plus yard game and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jeedolme, Loans, j P Shadrick, Tony was Elly, Pete Prisco, Glad you're along with us today on jack social media and ten ten am in Jacksonville. And yeah, a good day for for Robinson. That's good news. We we will

continue at length throughout the season. The quarterback conversation, guys, that's why I cut you off and we had to. We had we got other things we gotta get to today on this program because I know you Pete, Tony, I mean, you could go on about the quarterback for a long time. So that's why I always about the quarterback. That it's always about the offensive line. Pete, never forget

that and so far offensive. J We got good news today about Brandon Lender not going on I R. Doug Doug Marone did not say exactly what the injury was. Was a knee issue. We know that day to day, but aren't we all? Yes, so, but he is not going on I R. I would say that, yes, the quarterback's vital, the offensive line is certainly vital. But the defense has to stop giving up fourteen points early in the game too. That's another way to go about this thing.

To help out those guys on the offensive side. And you know that they tans fun right, he didn't do it week one. That's a step in the right direction. Good start, but you know in the passage we stop for a second. I'm sorry your buds in right. It's really annoyed looking at you. Those earbuds all messed up. That was on radio. We have to look at me. Let me try to see how that look. That's the bell in the middle of the show. He's looking at his phone reading stories. The Jaguars defense has two sacks

this year. When is the past rush going to get home? They don't have a lot of pressures for sacks. Pressures they're not getting even close um the first week, the ball came out quick, right right, Okay, that's fine, but Josh Allen I expected and again I think he got chipped a lot um working against Dennis Kelly. Um. But so I was expecting a faster start from j Allen based on the tape I saw in camp. Uh, still a lot of football left. I still think he's gonna

have a very good year. But they're gonna have to figure out to get pressure because they don't have a lot of pass rushers on that on that team. Uh. And I think Todd washing is gonna have to be more aggressive and blitz, but that leaves that young secondary exposed in the back half. So it's a tough situation. Um, they continue to do a good job against the run, at least they'll get, you know, hopefully some long down and distances, but they gotta figure out out a way

to get there because they're struggling. What do you think of Chase On He got his first sack, he kind of ducked inside on it and made nice play, But he's not winning outside consistently. Nobody is, Yeah, nobody really is. He had a nice couple of nice rushes against the Wanness. I had been the corner and got you know a little bit of pressure. Um, but they're just not hitting the quarterback, and up I gotta hit him. The quarterback

is not uncomfortable in the pocket against US. They had four quarterback hits yesterday, two of those from Alan and one on the sack for chaise On and the other was C. J. Henderson. Yeah, they're not coming. He's come. He's comfortable back there. You know there was Taven Bryant. My apologies. Well, and they should. They should be able against Miami's offensive line to get some pressure this week. So, like you mentioned, Tony, those are pretty good offensive lines

they faced. Yeah, I was not in pressure Tennessee. That I'm telling you. Denver hammered tanny Hill. It's not like no Bond Miller either. That's true. The Chubb and Bradley Chubb coming off on a c L. It's not like you know that taught you whatever ninety seven out there. I mean he was, yeah, Jeremiah taught Yeah. I mean, I'm just telling you they hammered tanny Hill during that game and the Jaguars got no pressure. Well here's one. Can they rush the passer at all? From the interior

the Jaguars. Um No, I mean Tavin Bryant is the closest and he's not in I don't. I mean, I haven't seen anything. It's tells me he's a natural pass rusher, right, So that that's always that. You gotta have somebody who could push inside a little bit. Tired, Tony, he's big in the middle of the show, he's bored with the defense. You're I mean, did you get up at like three thirty this morning to get where you're at right now or what? Okay, well did he probably took a nap

at least for a couple of hours at some point. Nap. Okay, I'm not like you, Pete. I actually worked. I didn't sleep indle pen and then I don't sleep at all and take another nap after that. No, old guys don't sleep. Our years are coming and going quickly. We don't sleep. You're almost you're are you almost get out of here? You know I'm not even close to that. What are you close? Suit you? What did somebody we know that plays quarterback, that used to play quarterback in Jacksons will

just celebrate this fiftie he did? Oh my god, that makes me feel so old? Where you are old? Well, okay, I'll be sixty in October. Oh, my Gober in October? What do you are you fifty? Nope? Oh, I think you've got backwards a year. You're forty nine. You're turning, you're turning fifty. Parts of his body we're like four years old though, that's the other years parts of his body are. Parts of his body are like hundred the other part, and then the other parts are like twelve

the replacement parts exactly. That's what I mean. So we got to celebrate. How are gonna celebrate on this show? I don't know. Happy birthday to me? I mean, well, I never get into that birthday celebration stuff. I don't know. When is it October? Oh? Yeah, we're gonna have a party. Who we you were on? Yeah, you go to South Beach party since the bars closes, the restaurants and bar the bars aren't open and the restaurant's close at that.

It's a Monday too. We'll have this show on your birthday, Pete, Yes you will. Oh, Tony, we gotta get this going. We gotta get this. What were you saying? I was on? Pete? Your your finals for the holiday you're They narrowed the list down there about a hundred sixty and you're on it. He's a nominee, he's not a finalist. I know, you know what I'm talking about. It will happen. This is the year. This is the year. Hey, let's come back, yere, let's come back. Let's get him the specialty back. We're

gonna come back real quick. You know why it will be the year because we'll be behind two thousand and twenty in his garbage here and then you get the two thousand and one and Selly is in. How about that? Fresh Start is gonna be a great year. Fresh Start, I like it. We have no choice but the rebound from what is going on this year. My oh boy. Uh, let's come back. Special teams talk a few issues for that group. Yesterday, It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

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Congratulations for those folks. Hey guys, special teams yesterday, Tony. Don't let us interrupt you, but special teams yesterday. I had a couple of issues. There was the the obviously the line drive kick or down the line drive was gonna be a squid power kick, but it hit the front line set up the short field for the field goal before halftime. And then there was the muff kickoff return at the start of the second half that set up the long field for the like the eleven yard

line um. And then there was a missed extra point from Lambeau. That's a that's an way too many special teams blunders in one game. Beat Yeah, and the one at the end of the half, what the heck was that? And I mean it's just a missed He was trying to squib it, but he nailed them. There was also did you talk about the bad punt too, right? There was there was one of those also, that's right, that didn't It was a terrible punt. Yeah, So what it

wasn't a good special teams performance? And uh, that's a rarity because the special teams are usually been pretty good around there. You got a good pund er, they got a good kicker. Uh, it wasn't their day yesterday. Neither one of them had a great day. Tony has decided to turn off his video all of a sudden on Jaguar's Happy Hour. But that's okay. What is wrong with him today was not focus? Are you talking about him? Right? Every Monday at four o'clock, I got a phone call.

Someone called me. It was an emergency and I had to answer the call re quick. Sorry, we're talking about Special Team. Well, first of all, I heard you guys talking about it, and I wish Logman was on the call because I said on the broadcast, kick it deep. You can kick it out of the end zone, kick it all the way in the back of the end zone own, and if they try to return it, go

cover it and the pass over. I mean, I don't understand why you like in today's was as far as those guys can kick it, kick it in the damn end zone and get over with. On the broadcast they said side kick no, I agree with you. On the broadcast they said on side kick no, no, no. I don't think I was supposed to say that word I just said. Is that bad word? JP? Sorry that I miss that I said, I said the other uh a word similar to dang. I don't hope you're allowed to say.

Well you just did so, yeah, You're sorry, sorry, but yeah, but I I Joe and Lawns is like, no power kicking. I'm like, why why would you power kicking? Why wouldn't you just kick it deep? What did he do on his first couple kickoffs? They didn't have a return right, so why would you change what you do? I may guess I mean a gain. I guess the thought is, well, so even if it's six seven yards out, no return it because they have nothing to lose. We'll go cover.

Then if they return a hundred and six yards touchdown on you, Shame on you. It's your fault. Yeah, they gave them points in that scenario. I mean they gave him the three ye went and got you gave him right back to him. And then here's the thing that the power kick is such a great kick because it protects you from having someone return to kick. Why why wouldn't you do it every time? That's my other question.

I understand why don't you do it every time? Then it's such a great play, right, I would have kicked. I would have kicked the deep and kicked it out of the end zone and go. They gave three points. They went down and got three points, and they gave him right back to him. I agree, But I think you know, JP, you didn't mention the punt. The punt to me was one of the that was bad because they set them up point range, but pretty much the one tours the end before the last drive when the field. Yeah,

he got the ball at like the forty five or something. Yeah, now what it was, JP? Yeah it started at the forty Yeah, that's a terrible pot. The thirty five yard punt to the Tennessee for you gotta get forty something, forty eight yards or something on that pot. You gotta get it out of there. Well, in speaking special teams, how about if you're good Skowski, you've been missed two extra points in two weeks. You missed every field ll just about week one. But somehow you have two game

winners in two games. Yeah, it wasn't it was a forty nine yard or he nailed the forty nine yarder for the winner. Yeah, and uh no, But I just think the special teams just had one because they're good. They're good. It's a good special teams group. The punter is good, the kickers good. It's a good special teams group. Speaking the special teams in games, no returns, no speaking of uh special teams. And well, the other thing is

we almost have a disaster. Claybrooks, you know, fumbled, He's lucky got that back on the kickoff, the hit and the chest and bounced forward. He's chasing it around started the second half. That could have been a disaster. Do they need to activate D. D. Westbrook and make him the part returner. Well, only if he's gonna be the kick returner too. Yeah, I mean because he was struggled, but you gotta give him their chance. He's a young kid. He's a good he's a good returner. Um. Yeah, it's

you know, speaking of JP's gonna hate this. I'm just gonna take this off the rails, um pete. In the Chargers Chiefs game, the kid made a fifty five yard to win it or fifty eight yard to win it? Sorry, would you have gone for it if you were Anthony Lynn on fourth and one in overtime on my own end, Yeah, probably not. I wouldn't have either. Listen, if they beat you at the fifty eight yard field goal, you tip your hat because listen you stop. I mean that's a

long field. Well it's not a chip shot. And plus it's not like they had got If it was a game where they had gone up and down the field, then yeah, but they didn't. They did. They played good defense on them, So no, I would have pawned it. And they did. They bust them in and they went down. They got a longfield. The best is anything to live. Afterwards, he says, our defense that's gonna stop. I'm like, what do you mean they've gotten stops all day? Yeah, I know,

I don't know what he was talking about. Look, you played with the rookie quarterback who didn't even have any idea it was gonna play, and your defense kept you in the game the entire day. No, absolutely not I would have punted it. But you know, but speaking of those type of situations, I think, you know, and pivots back to the Jaguars. I think Dougs did a good job this year in game management and you know when

to go for it, when to you know, punt. You know, overall there's been no glaring like man, bad time management or bad decision. They went for it. Um the thinking for on fourth that one time fourth and three and mince you scrambled out and got a first out. Yeah, I mean, I like, I think Doug's called a good game so far. You know, it's funny, Tony, when you were playing, if you were in the exact same situation right there, you're punny. Oh back then we punted it

all the time. They had no sense, never went for it. Yeah, fourth and trade no matter where you are, Like, if you're not across the forty or something, you're punny. Analytics have changed a lot of that too, though. Yeah, but they've gone to the extreme on a lot of those two like they don't take into account game flows the new world. Are you great? Yes? I agree with you, as go go ask Mike McCarthy going for it on fourth and whatever instead of kicking the field to tie

it up. A week one, Yeah, I didn't like that one at all. And then yesterday everybody says he did it right. I disagree. He got away with it. But when he was down nine he went for two to go up eleven, No, to go to cut it to seven. So it was nine? Yes, yes, so it was still nine, so nine? Have you missed it? You have to get it on. It's like, hey, everybody the analytical Izeday, well now you know how you can play it out if you get no. You know you you you kicked keep

yourself in the game. Oh no, you're talking about he was down fifteen he went for two to make it a seven point game. I agree with you. You kicked the field goal making an eight point game. It was nine, So you so you end it going for two at the end. You give yourself and stay in the game till the end. I agree. So in essence, he went for it and it was still nine and he still needed two scores and he got him. Look what had to happen for him to get Yeah, But that's that's

the questions that people always ask. If you're down fifteen, when do you go for two? Do you go for two of the first touchdown you score or the second touchdown? I say the second one. Say a lot as long as you can, Yeah, a lot. Let's come back. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Your social questions much more ahead.

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I mean, this is a team has come in that's uh wasn't really expected to do much today by outside forces, but we didn't really buying into that state as team and kept fighting and then um, afterwards we didn't really take let' see what I'm saying pleasure, I guess, and try to get more victories and saying we only lost by three and things like that. We looked at ourselves and kind of said, like what was the problem, Like

what made us lose this game? And then we just came down to it was really just you know, assignments and penalties. I think when we cut out half of those families, I think we would have been a much better game. The offense was doing, UH was doing a tremendous job, and then defense was starting to lock it down in more in that second half when we needed it. Averrey Jones, Jaguars defensive tackle in Nashville after the Jags lost yesterday, Titans thirty three, Jaguars thirty And it's the

second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Glad you're along with us j P Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Baselli, and of course we're recapping yesterday's game. The Jags fall to one and one there in second place in the a f C South. Will get to the division coming up. Your social media questions are right around the car. We'll go to the power rankings in the a f C South,

and we'll look around the National Football League. Yes, Gardner Minshew led three consecutive touchdown drives in the second half to get the offense back on track and get the team back on track to tie the game thirty thirty. The Jags defense, though, gave up early scores down fourteen nothing in a whole early where they really had to climb out of that thing all day offensively or keep it as close as they could to finally climb out

of that hole. Yeah, the early defensive issues continued this week. They did a pretty good job bottling up. For the most part. Derrick Henry John hu Smith had a big game. The tight end on the opening play went sixty three yards and scored the opening touchdown and the third touchdown of the game for Tennessee. But as Abrey said, there the second half, they got off the field a couple of times when they needed to while the offense was moving down the field and scoring and making it a

game again. So here we are one and one. The offense, I think is it's it's fun to watch. This is a fun Jaguars team to watch Tony now and you know it wasn't the case all the time the last couple of years. I'll say that, well, it's fun because they have a chance to score points. And you know, let's forget last year were seven games they averaged three points a game in the first half. I mean, it was torture um. And they're they're scoring points. They have

a feeling, they're never out of it. You know, they're exciting. You know, I think everyone when the offense went on the field at the end of the game, even though they didn't go down and get the field goal. We were expecting them to get a field goal. We're maybe get a touchdown to win it. Um. So that's fun. Now, the funnily lasts so long when you lose, like it's great that we it feels good because you know we played well. You come out and play well and lose

it the Dolphins, it's not gonna feel so good. You know, it's not gonna be that much of fun. Um. And usually what that tells you when you feel good because your team played well but you lost, um, that means most people thought you were gonna lose, and most people felt like the other team was better than you were. And so it's like, hey, you know, we feel pretty good because it was fun to watch and we lost

a close game. Well you say that because didn't what it means you know, we have been very good for a long time and other team is probably gonna was we thought it was gonna beat us anyway. So UM, that has to stop in the sense of, I mean, because it will stop being fun really quick here. I mean you play the Dolphins coming up Texans and then Cincinnati Detroit Texans. So that's what five games. You know you need to be at minimum three and two out

of those five games. Yeah. Actually the schedule coming up is Miami this week at Cincinnati at Houston home against Detroit, bye week, and then Chargers in l A. And then the Texans again. Yeah, so the bye week, four straight weeks Dolphins bingles, Texans lines. Yeah, and those are winnable games. You need to be, you know, probably three and one, two and two at worst two and two. You're you know, three and three after those four games, I mean you

probably feel okay. If you're three and three, you feel really good if you you win three of those four. You know, if you win, if win three of those four, you can start saying bye bye, Trevor. Oh yeah, you three of If you win three of those four or four and two after six games, when you're in the playoffs, might be in first. Well, you had him winning eleven anyways,

didn't you. Yeah, eleven and five. You you thought you thought you had a chance yesterday to get out to two and or you had a chance to be doing Oh, Tony, I picked him to to win. I feel good, No, you were. You are never feeling good in that game. Yeah, I felt good when we got the ball back. I'm like, we're going to score touchdown right here. I felt really good when we got the p I before the p I got called. Yeah, that one was. That's it. I just can't believe you made that call in that situation.

And I know you're not supposed to take situations into account, but you have to. You can't make that call there. I didn't think it was blatant. Did you think it was blatant? No, only did I not think it was blatant. I don't think it was p I p I at all. If you look at it is off hand is not do anything to the receiver. By the way, he's playing good football. Eleven tackles again yesterday, led the team this week. Yes,

he's playing very well. He looks like a different guy in that he doesn't look like he's thinking anymore, just thinks that he's playing football, reacting, you know. And he looks he looks leaner too. Do you know what he looks like? Pete the guy four years ago we thought we'd stole in the second round because we thought prospect exactly exactly right now. I thought, I think that's a pretty good pairing there, those two linebackers like you mentioned

show but it's not a real thumper. But he's a good, smart football player, and he made some nice tackles yesterday one on one against Henry So Um the linebacking corps, I mean, I don't know what kind of depth. I mean, here's the bad thing. I can't even tell you who backs up those two guys. How about that? I guess, Shaquio, what's the term the draft? Um, I couldn't tell you the Leon Jacobs pay to play. Leon Jacobs made a play yesterday, but he's the starting Sam who's our backup

will line Dakota al Ka from Last Chance? You did you know that? Um? I think, Hey, I think Henderson's a better tackler than he was at Florida because it's Florida. He didn't tackle anybody. Yeah, he was physical, he came up. He didn't cover quite as well um this week, but he uh, he did a good job coming up and trying to be physical against Henry. He gave up. He gave up that touchdown pass two to Davis, But that's a long time to cover a guy. Man. That was a great move by Davis at the top of the

route too. He made he made Henderson. He made Henderson hesitate, but still that's that's that route takes a long time. Well, they protected. What do you think of wind Guard? It's Winger insides that. Yeah, how do you say his name? Pete Winger? You good sunshine? He Uh. They compared him the kid Rock on the TV broadcast because Todd Wash called him kid Rock this week in his press conference. That's where that came from. I didn't watch the tape, so it's hard to say. He made a couple of

play flashed a little bit. I don't think it was a major downgrade from what the on the one, uh, the one that Teddy held made with a guy in his face, he should have batted that ball down. And there was one other that I thought he seemed like he reacted a little bit late. Maybe that's what I'm thinking about. Yes, where he came from the slot and Hayden was trailing and yes, yeah he doesn't get and he doesn't get over and make the play. He's got to make that. I thought he was slowing his reaction.

Identification of that one was Josh Jones yesterday. The other safety good, Yeah, he's pretty good. He's a good tackler's solid, good box safety, good come up hit Yeah, good in the run game. I think they're not as bad as many people thought they would be. But they it's more assignment stuff than anything. I think. So what do you think, Pete, You've seen him for two weeks. I had about eleven and five. You had him at four and twelve. What

do you have him now? Maybe five and eleven. So if you do the next next and ten, if you do the next um next four games, what's the next four games? Okay, here we go Thursday night, Thursday night against Miami at the Bengals on the fourth of October in week four. That one's hard for me. I think the in it. Though they win by two touchdowns. It sound bow wow. At the Texans week five, and I don't think the Texans are that good. It's just one of those games that's a loss. I mean they win, Okay,

the poor Texans. They opened up with that Kansas City home against Baltimore at Pitts Pittsburgh, good luck. They've been blown out a couple of times already. And then home against the Detroit Lions week six. That's a win. Jazy Stafford just sitting back there and throwing for four fifty Come on, Tony. Yeah. But listen, the Bills, I think you're like the first team I read in the history of the NFL to win four straight games with double digit leads. They blew them. Yeah, they blew four straight

games double digit league. They're they're all banged up on the defensive side. They got there. They're terrible. They're I'm telling you that I think the Jaguars are five and one going to the by I mean, play the game. You guarantee that five and I don't do locks anywhere. Play the rest of the schedule, because you play the rest of the schedule out the five and one, then that means that you think they're gonna win six more games and the rest of the way. So where are

they winning him? Well, I don't I can't remember the games all right here right here. After the bye week, it's at the Chargers. Huh Yeah, I don't like that game home against the Texans. I don't I think Texans are any good. At the Packers home against the Steelers. I got to win. Listen, we we first of all, we always played the thee is good, big bend. By then he might not be able to throw the ball. That's a stop at Tony. That's a lost home against

the Browns. Wait at the Vikings, they're not they're not very good, but I don't like going up there. I think they lose that game for yeah, there may not be fans up there. And then home against the Titans, when there'll be the times here at the Ravens, that's enough home against the Bears, when at the Colts. When now, so Tony hasn't a twelve and four, then is that what it was feeling good because you had him, you had a losing it. Wait, you haven't losing to the Chargers.

You have losing to the Packers. You haven't losing to

the Ravens and winning everything else. And I'm moving the Vikings alright, So five, so you have an eleven and five If they keep scoring twenty eight and a half points a game, at some point the defense is going to get it together, right, Okay, for some reason, they lost in Miami on Thursday night, because he'll be back here saying he'll be talking about who they're going to be drafted with the top dead big I don't think, I mean, I think that what scares me like Miami

is one of those teams that they I mean, I think it's a tough game. I think it's closer than anyone thinks. Like I think they're a well coached team that's not gonna get blown out. I agree. I think Miami plays hard. They're tough. Fitzpatrick is is one of those guys no matter when you get back, if you get up by ted, he's bringing it back with a touchdown to make it three. Yeah, I think it's I

think it's a really close game. I do too. But no matter what the record is this year, and I know fans don't want to hear this, you gotta be a little excited about the young players so far. Pete. You're only excited though if Mint she's the guy, But you're excited about the guys in around. Whoever the quarter you can go if you can get the quarterback. If it's not easy getting the quarterbacks not easy, we'll lose

the rest of them. Gosh, you might lose the rest of them and still not uh and still not get that pick. The way the Jets are playing, do you think the Jets are going over? Oh? They stink. They're all for their talent. Love, look the win a game. Their talent levels terrible though, By the way, the Rams aren't helping that draft pick either, so far, Let's come back in a moment. Social questions are right around the corner.

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nineteen calendar year total sales. Welcome back, Jaguar's Happy Hour. Sorry, just finishing up a phone thing here, j P. Shadrick, Tony Sell, Pete Prisco Radio. I have no idea. I'm sure there's some of the fans right now that sending UM their tweets would like him to finish the phones situation for about the next fifteen minutes. And when I get yelled at, I don't yell at people. When we used to take phone calls, you used to yell, You used to yell, and then you used to back on

social anymore, you don't audio proof. I'm ever yelled at anybody. I get guarantee that Joe could find something. No, you can't. I bet you it's out there, please, yo, please joke, Please find us some of the old yelling. Please. He's nodding his head. Yes, it might be out there. We got a lot to search for this week. All right, let's get to the social questions this week. Let's start off with at stut Winters, what can the defense student improve the pass rush? In the last two games we

were behind, which never helps. The offense kept us in the game, and off that both the Colts and Titans had to rely on passing late in games. How do you improve this? Guys? Oh, I mean you hope that you can find that Josh Allen gets going a little bit and it can start being the dominant player we know that he is. And you know, pass rushers historically

can start slow. People tell you there are many double digit pass rushers that the first couple of games of the season don't do much and then all of a sudden they're all over the place can't be stopped. So let's not get too panicked about Josh Allen. He's a good player. Um. The thing is, you have to have more than just one guy who can You need some interior push that would help the outside pass rush a

ton um. And if you don't get that, and then you gotta start bringing more than four, You're got to bring five or six guys and take your chances um at certain times in the football game. Yeah, and this is a good week to get it going, Tony. When you look at it, they're not greating on the offensive line down there, um in Miami. Down here, I should say, And and Fitzpatrick can hold the ball the time, So this is gonna be an opportunity to get some pass rush going. And I think this is the game josh

Al does get it going National TV. I'm gonna say right now that he gets two sacks this week against the Dog, Are you lock lock it? We've got a two sack lock to sack lock. That's the first Prisco lock ever. I'm locking it right now. He's getting two sacks this week against Miami. Yeah, Joe didn't even know what to do. He he doesn't have the lock ready because he wasn't ready for that. I was told we

would have no locks this year. But now we've got us two sack lock three already locked eleven and five. What are you talking about. I didn't lock eleven and five. I'm just saying, that's where I get a feeling with my feeling. Is that kind of the same feeling you had before the Colts game last week? Uh? Well, I got that one right. Yeah, I missed this week, just missed.

I got this one right. I missed week one. Let's go under our next question at Danton Thomas, is it time to see what you have with Barkoo and Scott at corner and Thomas at safety? And do you think Chason and Smooth should get some more snaps because of the lack of pass rush. Let's start with those. Those are three rookies that you mentioned there in the secondary. So who are you benching? I don't know who are

we benching to get Barkoo and Scott out there? A rookie that was the player of the week last week? PJ Hate, who's a good nick call? Are you benching? You know? Hayden hasn't played as well this year, so no, that's fair. I can't. He isn't his best games, but I don't. And then I don't think there's been an issue at safety. Maybe you know, if Jerald Wilson stays hurt, maybe give Thomas some reps with Winger back there, Winger back there, But maybe not. I mean, I don't know

where the bar coup. And right now Jason, Jason is getting equal snaps to Josh Allen Lea stee the week one. I don't know about this week. H how about smooth? How smooth played? Uh, he's a nice play Yesterday he played well. I remember one pass rush pressure. I mean he did some nice things yesterday. Yeah. I gotta watch the tape and dig into play by play. But my overall impression he played above app Okay, yeah, I would

agree with you. Okay, fair enough. Let's go to the next question him at real Steve has in DDE Westbrook with a was a healthy scratch again and arguably our strongest position group. Could the Jags trade him to a team have an injury issues at wide receiver? Does he hold any value? Um, I don't think you're gonna get much for Westbrook. I mean it's not like he's put up big numbers in a year that he has been on the field. I mean, he's one of those guys

that we've always felt has a ton of potential. Then we kind of hype up and we want and think he's um has a chance to be really good. My guesses, would you get think Pete maybe a fifth rounder? You get yeah? Yeah, and why would you why not just hold on to him in case somebody gets hurt. Yeah, because why not. He can't be happy, though, I imagine he's not a very happy kid right now. He's competitive, he can't be happy. I mean, you're you're a healthy scratch.

Two weeks in, I wouldn't be happy. I'd make I'll be honest with you, if you give Claybrooks another chance to returns if he doesn't work out this week, I'm getting out of here and I'm make a westbrook return. Fair enough and by the way, um, going back to our last question, Chason had eighteen of the sixty two snaps yesterday Alan had four. He needs to be on the field, according to the Official Game book. Absolutely, he needs to play more. He needs to play more. Figure

it out. You know you always say, well, how do you get get figure it out? Get your best football players on the field, get him on the field. It felt like more than that, but I mean, yeah, they equals cash cash is Marsh play Yesterday he played. He was on the field for cash is Marsh Marsh? He played twelve snaps on defense buttons how many Hamilton's play j Hamilton seven snaps out of sixty two? Yeah and Marsh play d N or outside backer listened a d n here, But yeah, you know you know what he is.

He's he's not like he's a hybrid. Yeah, he's that well, and so is Chason. And why would you why would you give twelve snaps, uh, Marsh and not give those twelve STAPs to Chase on and get him at thirty STAPs? I would give him thirty snaps. He's getting on the field for me. I wonder why though Marsh was inactive week one, Jason got the I wonder how it must not have graded out maybe as I was thought he did.

Oh that's interesting, JP. I'd like you to ask that question in the press conference Marsh versus Chase on snaps noted, thank you. Next question at Jay McMahon underscore. Has your opinion changed about this team? Pete? No, they're what I thought they would be. Feisty, tough, competitive, and they're not gonna win a lot of games. So nothing think you did not think they mean this could offensively? Oh? I did think they'd be good offense, did not. J You

want to go back to get the tape. I said they're gonna have to score a ton of points and they're gonna be good offensively. I did too, said that now you are such a revision assistance. Oh not, I know what I said. But they're still going to win a lot of games. Despite your proclamation that they're winning eleven eleven, it will be closer to total games one pete at four or me at eleven? Me JP. So you don't think they get the eight? No, I don't

think the schedules favorable. Don't get me wrong. Schedules favorable. The next I think when theyre's putting up twenty eight and a half, they keep this pace offensively, they're gonna win more games than a lot of people think. I'll take eight. Yeah, oh, I'd win, then win or chicken dinner. But the offense has keep his pace. Defense has to button it up a little bit earlier and give him a lead to work with. It'd be nice, and then maybe you see how they really play at that point. Uh.

Next next question at no toes down down fourteen? Nothing And I was not depressed. I really thought they would come back. When was the last time we had that feeling? And what should we make of it? Enjoying it's fun to it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch a team that can score points and it gives you hope for the future. But yeah, I mean it's all positive. I enjoy it was what I would do, so I'd feel enjoy it. Be entertained. Are you not entertained? How

good could Chinalte? Oh, he's I think it would be special, like special health Tony, like like Pro Bowl special. Yeah. I think he has he has that typic villain. Yeah, game changing ability. How about him on the in the running in the running back when he ran over the guy yesterday, I just didn't avoided contact at all. He's a physical dude, man. I mean he's like two pounds. It's not a small human being. No, he looks the part. He really looks apart. What about the throw to the

end zone that they tried to hit Colin Johnson. He got blasted on that. Give the kid credit. He goes up, you know, he went right up, but he knew he was gonna get blasted. I didn't look like a cover. Very good. He's gonna being a good player too, he can't. I agree. A last question today, Walkoda, What this is the last one? Tony? This is it? This is it? By now we should be owing to and depressed. But it's one on one and with the illusion intact or

maybe hyped. Uh is it because no preseason games and every team is struggling or it's a really good and well coached team. Well, I mean, I think there's something in between there. I mean they're really good and welcome, like like really good means you're gonna be fighting for the Super Bowl. Um. I don't know if we're ready to say that. I think it's a I think I think they are well coach. I think Doug and the

staff has done an outstanding job. You can I mean what j Gruden has pulled off with no offseason, no t as new system. I mean, it's tremendous. Um. I don't know if I would classify them as really good yet, but they're a solid football team right now. One on one like that, you're solid and you have a chance to if you keep on improving. That's gonna be the key. The key to this team this year, guys, is do

they improve week over week? Because they're young. If the young guys continue to get better and they improve, they have a chance to be a really good team come December. And I have all I have to say to Jaguary fans like that guy out there is don't worry about this year. Worry about next year, because this team isn't going to the playoffs this year. Is team just needs to keep getting better and better, become grow, grow as a team, grow as players, and worry about next year.

You got a ton of cap room, you got a ton of draft picks. You're gonna be even better next year. Don't worry about this year, just continue to enjoy the young guys growing up before your eyes. I love how you just so definitely say they're not going on the This is gonna end up on a bulletin board down the hall. Pete is what's gonna happen? Well, I'm I'm definitively saying it. They're not going to the postseason. But watch that next year. It's gonna be really good next year.

I think you're mistaken. Well, yeah, you got him with eleven wins and in the first round. By of course you think I'm mistaken, Well, eleven wins only the number one scene gets in the first round, by that's right. But okay, you don't think, okay, they're gonna get home field playoff game. Well, I think the Ravens go fourteen and two Chiefs grow thirteen and three. Yeah, and then and then who wins? Who wins the Patriots? Hey, no,

they're not winning that. The Bills are Josh Allen's grown up. Yeah, Patriots. Patriot will win at ten and six, Bills winning at twelve and four, so they'll get a buy i mean advantage. And then you have to Jack's winning the South at eleven and five. What's the best part about it? Don't write them off, Pete. I'm living. No, you're not. You're laughing at your prediction. I mean this team, I mean, they're fun to watch, they're young, they're they're entertaining, but

they aren't going to the playoffs, Tony. They're beating they're beating the Dolphins two and one. You said five and one. By the way. Then they're gonna beat the Texans next, right, and then they're gonna beat the Bengals. We've talked through this already, we went through the I'm telling you what's gonna happen. Yeah, quit writing them off, Pete. There are such you know, why are you such a hater, Pete? Because I'm a realist. I'm a realist. Wait for next year.

Next year is the year you're a realist. You said if the Pact twelve played this year, the Arizona State was gonna win the national title. You're a real I know, I know who wasn't gonna even come close to winning the paxt Well, my school is a better chance of year school. Not this year. You didn't. Your team is terrible? Are your team's terrible? What makes you guys so good? You got a quarterback who can actually play, and they

got and they gotta tough. Yeah, you do. But the issue's got more talent now, well not this year, because they're not issues getting more talent. They're doing they're back to the old ways. I think they're back to the old let's come back at the moment. They got good recruiters. Thank you for the social questions for tonight. So I can't I can't believe you're making those accusations of your almon water. I'm not saying they're doing I'm just saying,

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play that over? Just on a loop? Was that was? I was I drinking? That's it's probably after after you came back from London you were deliver Yeah, I mean I must have just got off the plane on jet lag. I mean something happened there. You finally wised up. Yeah, And I don't think that's it. I love that one that it's almost as good. And you know what, Joe, you you got that out of the archives. Find him screaming at a fan. It's got to make my day. If you do, that will make my day, Joe, we

got thirty minutes. They we'll we'll see if we could grab one this week, but certainly next week. So get ready for if you want a Christmas President, Joe, you'll make sure that all the files are deleted magically. How that works. Let's go around the AMC South and take a look at the teams in the division. The Houston Texans, oh my goodness to oh and two. But as you said, Pete, it has been a tough schedule to get things going, of course, with the Chiefs and the Ravens to begin things.

And now on to Pittsburgh after that they lost to the Ravens yesterday thirty three sixteen. The Colts knocked off the Vikings eleven. The final there there one in one, but the Jags have the tiebreaker and are in second place. And the Titans, of course knocked off the Jags yesterday tennessee two and oh in the a f C South. Um, yes, Texas overrated. And is Deshaun Watson over numbers this year? He got garbage time. He got garbage time against the

Chiefs on that Thursday nighter. You saw that he ran one in and threw late. But he did nothing up until the until that game was out of hand. All right, I've got his numbers right here, guys. So DeShawn Watson five six eight, that's six for eight yards two touchdowns, two interceptions and eight seven rating. It's just been okay.

I mean, you're the second highest quarterback. You're supposed to be much better than Okay, And in fairness to him, the offensive line still despite all the draft capital they put into it and they paying Laramie Tuntl, there's still a lot very good. Larmie Tuncil is getting paid twenty two million dollars a year. It's amazing. And then here the eight sacks this year. Uh, they're not running the ball very well. They're averaging eighty four yards a game.

But they did play the In fairness to them, they did play the champs on the road to open the season, which is always tough, and they came back and played the Ravens at home. Those are two of the best teams, if not the two I will I'll hold judgment of the Texans until we see more because they have. I mean, I want to see what the new against the Steelers, who I think are a little bit overrated. Feelers. Okay, that's fine. I just said what I think. You can

say what you think. You're usually wrong. I'm usually right. Play the day, play the day. You know, when I say I overrated, I mean, um, they're good, not great in the Texans. This is a game the Texans need to win or play like down to the wire where it's like in doubt until the very end. Uh and the Texans rally from oh and three. They did two years ago they won the division? I know, can they

do it again with this team? This team? There's something off with this team just doesn't The defense is not great. Where where they getting production beside I mean pass rush? Who has a good division in the defense in the a f C South. Anybody be a lot of points this year? Yeah? Um, and I I still think they are a different team without DeAndre Hopkins. Every year we played them, That's the one guy I was like, how do you stop them? Now? Tell me who you're worried

about on that offense? Nobody, nobody, will Will Will Fuller is a nice complimentary receiver. He's a good too to a guy like Hopkins because he can stress the field and scary with the speed because he can so much because you have to pay so much attention to Hopkins. But now if he's the focal point of stopping him just now, I don't know if he's a great route runner or anything like that he cooks is a good receiver.

He's not a great receiver. Listen, any time you've been on like fifteen teams and three days, four right, four teams, four teams four years. Yeah, that's that's a lot of teams. They're they're not good right now. No, then they're owing two right now. The Indianapolis Colts gotta win. Yesterday eleven rivers, touchdown and pick. Molly Cox said, hundred eleven yards receiving on five catches Jonathan Taylor and stepped out Marlon Max

done So. Taylor had a hundred yard game in a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, the pick. Pick was off the hands. No, the pick was off the hands of Cox. He dropped it and it bounced into the defender's hands. T Y Hilton dropped a touchdown that would have been a long play. You just dropped it. Defensively is where they got after it? That that looked like a different defense. Kirk Cousins was awful on Sunday because they got after him. Look at

his number. Look at kirk cousins numbers. Thirteen yards, three interceptions of fifteen point nine rating and at one point he was zero. He was awful, and that defense which I thought would be better, played like it. They played much better than they did in Week one that for some reason they were just terrible Week one. I thought these guys played much better this time around. Are you gonna can Backway had his first sack with the Vikings, by the way, Oh good for him. I like gon Um.

The Vikings are in trouble though, well they're not that good on defense, which has been their calling card. The offensive line is little and he didn't look he looked awful. Kirk Cousins, How can he take a sack in safety two weeks in a row. That's hard to do. Um did Are you eating your phone? Tony? What is going on? I'm trying to think. I was trying to think his name, Dalvin Cook? How do you play? He was okay? They I mean that that Colts defense was what did Cooke

end up with? Because I know he got one late? Yea dominant Cook had fourteen carry sixty three yards and a touchdown in the game. They're late, though you look at those five minutes, yeah, five minutes to go agyfore, Yeah, they're not not. The Vikings are bad, but the Colts played much better than they did at jacksondent. You know, as bad as the Vikings are, that's a bad division outside the outside of the Packers. Bears are good, Bears are two? And oh are they any good? Pete? No,

they're not. The Vikings and the Bears play tomorrow. Who are you picking? Where's the game at Minnesota Vikings Chicago? Maybe the Bears. That's how bad the Vikings and the Vikings looked awful, awful. You're not doing that, you know better. They've looked awful all right now. Of course we saw the Titans firsthand yesterday. So gentlemen, are you ready for your AFC South power rankings because we all know how important they are? Yeah, I mean I got mine ahead, Pete,

I'll let you go first. Titans one, Colts too, Jack great, and Texans four? And how is that happening weekend? Please the tape? What have you done for me lately? Destroying the tape? Where I said, Pete, hadn't I had a Um, it's it's the Titans barely the Jags are. It was a coin flip for me between the Jags and the Titans. The Titans ones that give him to do, Jags too, Colts three and the Texans a distant fourth. So the

division standings, that's that's what yours are. But Pete is going there is usually his power rankings are the division standings where he moved, other than when he moves. Jacksonville up a couple of spots. I could argue that they got robbed with a pass interference called the Jags are a better team than the Titans. You're you're at a control. Now let's come back and I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna say it. I said I could and lost the game. They didn't pun in. I mean, you

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goal to knock off the Jackson. The Jackson, of course, rallied from that fourteen point deficit and tied the game thirty thirty at one point, but the late field goal down to them. The Jags are one and one. We've gone over the FC South, We've gone over the game. So let's go around the National Football League, and let's start around the league. Pete. With all the injuries, major injuries yesterday Garoppolo and really in San Francisco they had

four guys hurt yesterday. Se Kwan Barkley is done with an A C L tire. Malik Hooker for the Colts has an achilles tire. Mcaffrey's out four to six weeks, drew locks framed his A C joint. I don't remember one this notable in a long time. That's a lot of big names. It is a lot of big names, and the two biggest are Barkley and uh for the season with the torn A C L and Nick Post I mean, he's the heart and soul of that defense.

And remember they titled Buckner away. They drafted kin Law but now Solomon Thomas is also down for the year. Big What was boss injury? Pete toward a c L A c L. His was an a c L too. His was an a c L and Barclays was an a c L bad and Thomas was an A c L. Is it just me or we get a bunch of Achilles tares this year too? I mean, I mean the tide end up at last Thursday night for the Bengals stores Achilles. Yeah, it was on a mac Poor's achilles.

You know, a bunch of Achilles hare feels like, Yeah, they're gonna People are gonna blame the injuries on COVID. I mean, that's that's gonna happen. You're gonna say they didn't get the work. But if you saw those injuries, the knee injuries, those would have happened. Those can happen, But the Achilles is the one that's curious to me. I don't remember this many Achilles injuries. Yeah, it's interesting,

but there's been a lot of guys go down. Christian McCaffrey's down two to four weeks with her or maybe even longer with an ankle injury. So there are a lot of guys that aren't to be playing and and big time guys. So it hurts and are big trouble. Yeah, I mean you know that Super Bowl hangover. They played without Sherman the other day. He's out for probably three weeks. Uh. They don't have any pass rush that's their calling card.

Garoppolos down now this week. Probably that means Mullens will play. They had problems, big problems. What is bark What is that Garoppolo's injury ankle? He played through it and then he went out in the second half and didn't play bad. The hangover is real. Yea. Let's touch quickly on the games from yesterday. Bears over the Giants seventeen. But Pete, you still don't like the Bears. No, I mean they had that game in hand and let him get back in and and in fact, Daniel Jones was taking shots

into the end zone to win the game. Bears aren't very good. Trabiski's two and oh but does he scare anybody? No, yes he does. He scares you know who? He scares Bear fan? Yeah? Absolutely. Cowboys rallied. They are down twenties and nothing in the game. They beat the Falcons forty nine incredible, worst on worst on sidekick defense I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, how do you not know

the rules? Dan ball? Jack Prescott made himself a little bit more money yesterday, But he's got to go on the road this week at Seattle and prove he can do it on the road. I think if you look at his splits, he doesn't play nearly as well on the road as he does at home, not even close. I mean, but yesterday three rushing touchdowns, boarders fifty yards passing. Atlanta's had no excuse los in that game, Nuns. Yeah,

I mean, how do you like? How do you I cannot believe they didn't fall in the on the football. But speaking of Seattle, pete Um, the best quarterback in the NFL is not Patrick Mahomes. His name's Russell Wilson. He's playing the best right now. But you still take Patrick Mahomes at home because he's younger. But like this year, I might take Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, he is un real right now. Let him cook. He's playing break football.

Let him cook. He's the best quarterback in football right now. Hey, and they're letting him throw. That's the biggest difference, you know, the past, they're Alla's line up playing power football. They know they can't do that because the defense is very good. Yeah, Packers over the Lions for two twenty one. Not much of an issue there for Green Bay Bills over the Dollars.

Defense is good, that offense is good. By the way Aaron Jones ran the ball well yesterday, they got they got a lot of They're going to score a lot of points this year. Bills look good yesterday to Josh Allen had himself a day the Dolphins. He's averaging three or fifty yards passed and he's got six touchdown passes and note pics and his complete your percentages over he's in the m v P mix, m v P mix he is. I'm not sure I'm buying it yet. I need more. I need more. You gotta go go watch

the tape from yesterday. He made some really good throws. He made one throw though that makes you hesitate a little bit where the corner comes off in his own coverage and he doesn't see him and he almost picked it. You know what I'm talking about? Tony and like almost like with C. J. Henderson did the Rivers last week yep Niners knocked off the Jets thirty one thirteen. The Rams over the Eagles thirty seven to nineteen. The Rams looking pretty good. Pete. Okay, let's look at it from

both sides. Sean McVeigh revamped his entire staff. Remember coordinators, goodbye all of them. You know. John bond Omego former Jaguars coordinators now a special teams coordinator there. And they've they've responded. They played very well. Jared Golf's playing good football. They outschem the heck out of them. The script was sensational to start the game. The Eagles had no answer. I thought the Eagles would be decent on defense. They are awful on defense right now, and they have no

offensive line. They can't protect, they can't run, don't do anything. Nope. Steelers, hold on before you wait further. That's a bad division. By the way, the NFC East is a bad division, really bad, really bad. The Cowboys salvage something yesterday, otherwise they being too too. Steelers are two and oh. They beat the Broncos one. The Bucks over the Panthers. Leonard Fournette got his first touchdown and Tom Brady bounced back

for the Bucks. And is this what that's back? In the first half, he didn't look so good in the second half, No, he didn't. And uh, Leonard Fournette got a touchdown run on what do you think? A big giant hole that opened up and he ran through. Cardinals. Cardinals beat the football team thirty to fifteen. And the quarterback there in Arizona look pretty good yesterday, Pete, he's in the conversation. I mean, I'll give you a lock. There's the Cardinals will win the West. I picked him

to go to the playoffs. There's a lock. Sound how about that? Yeah? I picked him to go to the playoffs, Tony, I thought they're gonna win the West, Chiefs over the Chargers in over time twenty Yeah. And Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert looked good man for a guy who didn't know he was starting to get thrown in that situation. He made one really bad throw where he threw across his body into the middle of the field when he could have run for a first down. But other than that,

he looked good. And now they're gonna go back to him. They're gonna go back and Tyrod Taylor is a starter. And then he kept on going. He said, it's not like we won. We lost the game. Tyrod our quarterback. And come on, but don't you, Tony, You've been around the NFL. If a quarterback gets hurt in pregame warm ups and doesn't play, the guy comes in and plays, don't you almost have to go back to the guy who got hurt. As a veteran, you do. Yeah, it's

not like it's not that. I'm like again to what Anthony said, and I only read the comments, so maybe it came across differently, but he seemed pretty like strong, like he was like mad like. I think the answer would have been, hey, listen, Tired's had nothing to lose the job he got hurt. Um, the kid did a great job. We feel like we have two great quarterbacks, but we're gonna go back to Tyrod Taylor because he's a starting quarterback on this team. That's all you have

to say. Yeah, And and when you think about it, you saw the Bengals defense. Tyrod Taylor didn't put up any points against that defense, and they're terrible, terrible defense. Yeah. Time for Monday Night football and what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. And for the first time. Ever, it's the National Football League the opener at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada. Derek Carr, the Las Vegas Raiders, welcome in Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints. Who you

got tonight in the Death Star. Oh, it's gonna be a blowout. The same illink. The Raiders can play defense and the same defense is really is really good. I think the Saints win by ten. Cam Jordan's, one of the better pass rushers in the league, will be messed up against third team tackle Denzel Good because I think Trent Brown is out and Sam Young is out, and so that means Denzel Good we'll have the duties of blocking Cam Jordan's good. Luck with that one. Excited to

see that stage with you. I'm with you. I can't wait to see the stame. There's two bad There's no fans in the stands. Why are there no fans in the stands of NFL games? Please? Somebody explained that to me. You could put twenty thou in and space him out and it would be just to be we're doing here, We got it right here. That's when the Jags do, baby, well, they're gonna have their normals. They're gonna have their normal Thursday night grout and twenty. I'm not, I'm SKA, I'm kiding,

good night and good luck. Tony Vaselli, I think Christo another lock. I'm JP shatterck. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

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