Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 20

and Jacksonville Pete Frisco down in South Florida. And if you're wondering why if you're watching on Facebook live, this is noon at four o'clock, we're taping this. It's live on faced but we're taping this for radio, so you're listening to it at four o'clock on the radio. It was taped ever today. Just full disclosure. That's okay because Hurricane Dorian's coming up the East coast here. Tony, what's up man? Well, I'm getting ready to fight Hurricane Dorian.

I'm not happy, not at this. Pete. How is it in South Florida? So they've evacuated my hat, they've evacuated where I live. A little overcast, but nothing major right now. Um, it looked like we were gonna get pounded. I was ready to get out of here. But uh, dear to the north and I'm just hoping that that thing goes out to sea for everybody. I mean, that's a brutal storm. What it's doing to the Bahamas is just unreal. Is

the Bahamas even left? Is there anything left there? Did you see they said they had five ft of water at the freeport airport at the airport, Wow, how about that? The whole islands underwater? Five ft of water? Yeah, I mean it's like all underwater. Hm. Now let's let's it's awful. Let's get this thing out to see where. I mean, where do you go? Where do those people go? It's like there's nowhere to go, That's what I mean. It's off. You've been You've been in the Bahamas, right, and it's

like all low line land and everything. It's it's bad. It's terrible. So uh the well, here's what we're coming up on the show today. By the way, Hurricane Dorian changes for the Jaguars this week. The schedules changed a little bit. Miles Jack got paid we'll break that deal down. Some Texans talk. They were busy. Bill O'Brien was busy this week Chiefs Jaguars coming up Sunday and week one we'll go around the National Football League as well. Head

coach Jack Marone today address the media. They a team had to walk through after that, and then they'll be out of here by around noon or should be right about now, and they won't be back in the building until Thursday. So off tomorrow and then off Wednesday, and then back to work Thursday because of the Hurricane Dorian prep here. Yeah, I don't I don't understand that. But in what way don't you understand it? I mean, if if the hurricane is gonna be around on Wednesday, you

don't want to be practicing Tony, but practice Tuesday. Yeah. Stadium is by the way, stadium stadium isn't an evacuation zone. It's in Zone B for the wreck. This is Zone by. Yeah, because it's on the river, that's right. And think about that. Yeah, I guess you gotta go. I would take the team after. I would actually there you go maybe after up into Georgia, get on a plane, fly to Atlanta, go practice Georgia Tech or Georgia State, or go find somewhere to go practice.

Doug said that they practiced on they worked on Kansas City last week, So I mean, right, how much more? How much more can you do the practicing today? Normally you don't practice on a Monday during the season, so you take tomorrow, so they're essentially missing you're missing one day, one day. Yeah, right, well, I mean there are things more important than football, Coach Baselli, what what is that, Pete? It's called life. Football is life, Pete? Look at look

at look at that. Come on, you would have been the first guy that was been so happy to get out of it. Let's get let's go. Time to go the players side, and he's like, yeah, I don't even need to practice. Let's take four days off. Yeah, okay, let's let's seriously ask you this though, from a preparation standpoint. If you don't practice on Wednesday, what's that in what's that do in terms of the week. Well, I just

think it's routine more than anything. And the fact that it's the first week, you're not really into your routine at this point, so it's probably not that big a deal. Um, And it's not like practices are overly physical. This you know in the NFL during the week prep wise, I mean back in the day, we would have missed the whole day of you know, you missed nine and seven. You're inside run stuff. You miss a day of let's pick up team. I mean, here's mission reps more than

anything back. I'm not even sure you know what they do on Wednesdays anymore. Typically this time of year, though, they're padded up at least one practice during the week, So I guess you just do that Thursday were they padded They weren't padded up today. No, I think it was just a walk through today. Yeah, the media was not allowed out there today, But yes, I understand it was a much lighter work today. It was a light

day to day off, Tomorrow off, uh Wednesday. The only thing I would worry about Pete more in all seriousness, and obviously Hurricane Dorian and people safety is way more important than any of this. But as you get ready for the opening game is this is a lot of time off. So they're off Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Yeah, come back today, off Tuesday, Wednesday. So out of six days, the last six days they're gonna be off five of them. I mean, I just think, you know, it takes a

little bit of to get back at the rhythm. I mean, you know, that's a lot of time off. So I just did a lot of I would just I'd be more concerned about just being sharp. So they were off all weekend after the game. Yep, that's why I was told. At least it's true, that's a lot of time Pete.

That's why. I mean I might have I don't know, I might have given him off today and said we're gonna everyone going to the airport, gonna go work, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday somewhere, and then come back Friday, come back Friday. What's the other challenge you're defeating. The whole purpose of people getting ready for the hurricane is their family is with them. You want them move around to try and help with their family. You know, look at look at him,

But you are a callous man. Well, I mean, you've got enough money, go hire somebody take care of your family. It's unbelievable had out. But if you have. I mean, I mean, honestly, if I was a player, I just my whole family on a plane and send them out of here, get out of here. Your whole family on a plane. Trust me, they are. What do you think they're doing right now? They're all leaving and you're gonna hunker down by yourself. Why do you go with them?

Because I got work. I'm here at the radio that I got stuff, have responsibilities, Pete. Unbelievably unbelievable. No, but seriously, I mean, if not all joking aside, if I was a player, okay, and I had a family, I would get them all on the airplane and send them to send them to California. So go see your get out of here. I don't want to worry about you guys. So I don't want to be worried about dam man trying to get ready for a game. Let's go board up the house and let's go. We're good to go.

All that can replaced anyways. But basically, basically, one day missing, one day of practice, it's not that big a deal. It's not, Pete. They're all five of the last six days. So what maybe their bodies will get back to recuperate a little bit. Did you watch how like we performed in the preseason. Yeah, that's backup, So you can't you you're the first one who says you can't get anything

out of the preseason. Now you're evaluating the preseason, you were, you were like that, you're on the big your fence jumper. One time, you're over here, one time over there. Did you not say last week that we can't get anything out of the preseason at all? Um, I don't know if I said at all. I think just yeah, probably yes. I remember you weren't even here last week two weeks ago. Then, like I didn't say that. I didn't even talk to you last week. He flips and flops. You were, you

were at the enemy mahomes. We're gonna get to him coming up a little bit later. Yeah. I do think it's a lot of time off. But families first, gotta take care of your uh in in house and all that stuff. So I get that part. What about game planning a week ago? Like they started doing stuff last week that helps? Well, they probably the inside, They probably inside that the hurricane was coming, so let's uh get ready early just in case the hurricane comes. And here

it comes. Good planning by Doug. Give him credit, you know what? And Maron mentioned this today. I mean he's gone through some schedule craziness before as a head coach in Buffalo two years ago with the snowstorm. How long two years ago? He was here, however long ago? That was so because he's here with Gus for two years and this is his third years. That's five years at least, thank you. So they had the snowstorm and Buffalo players

are stuck in their houses. They had to get a snowmobile brigade out to go get all these guys, get them on a plan and get them to Detroit. They didn't practice at all that week, and Doug said in the past that that's the best they played all year. They just showed and go and uh and played a great game in Detroit and a massive blizzard. But the logistics of all that just kind of came together. Yeah, I mean on a week like this, he's done something

similar before. Typically, I would say one day is not the end of the world. One practice day. The only reason I'm even hesitating with that is that there are been off five of the last They're gonna be off five out of six days. That's the only thing. I mean. If you're just saying, hey, we're gonna miss one day, okay, no big deal. Whatever is it a little bit more because you have all this time off. Possibly, but again, I don't think it's the end of the world. I

think it'll be fine. I'm I'm, I'm kind of with you on this, Uh, Pete, I kind of on your side. Guys. Let's uh, let's touch on Miles Jack here got the deal extension seven million dollars over thirty guarantees. He can thank uh you for that for not signing the contract that he was. I don't think he gets it. If your unique signs for the nineteen a year. It's kind of like what happened in Dallas with Jalen Smith getting the first one in. Right, you don't get your deal.

Everybody else is waiting for their deal. Go get yours. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Pete, you think it gets done if your nique signs to the big deal? Not right now? I don't know. I don't either. I'm not saying it doesn't get done in the future, but I don't think they do it right now. There's a lot of funny money in that deal too. Is a good contract for Miles, but it's got a lot of like incentives for him to make the Pro Bowl and playoffs and all that, and I hear that's kind of what they want to

do the Yons deal too. I mean a lot of funny money. Well, I don't there is no deal for you on right now. Unique steals off the table. It's what I've been told, right, But initially there was a lot of funny money in it. Yeah, I don't know what was accurate in that or not. I think that depends on who you talk to Pete my guests from his side, there was probably a lot of funny money in there. That's why I didn't sign it. That tould be an interesting uh. And we're jumping way ahead, but no,

we are. No what I'm saying, it's gonna be very interesting to see how this plays out this year with Ya. I mean, if he is gonna I mean they'll tag or they'll say them, hey, look dude, let's uh let's do something now, you know what I mean? What what if he has monster the year? So if he has you know, fifteen sacks, Yeah, he's gonna whatever he wants. Sure, he's gonna get tagged, That's what I mean. But then he'll get a deal, He'll get something very good. What

if he has eight sacks? If he has eight sacks, he's in trouble. What do you think if he if he has eight sacks, what happens to him? Yeah, it's a great question, but they can't put the franchise tags no no, become free and then free agent and we'll see what somebody will sign him. Right. Absolutely, he's a Yeah, he's a good football player. I think a lot of it has to do with forty one place. Okay, let's say forty one gets twelve sacks and and John gets nine.

I think, and you win and you win the division because of the pass rush. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you make you gotta tag him at nine. Well, I mean if it's nine and he plays well, you know what I mean, it's just gets to nine. But if that team, okay, let's just say the defense is dominant, they win the division. He has nine sacks, Alan has eleven. They're creating havoc together next to Klaius and Darius in that pass rush situation. You want to break that up.

I would know, but you're gonna listen. You're I mean, I don't know why we're talking about this now, but because it's look forward forward sell But you spend that forward. You're not keeping all four of those defensivelignment. Let's just let me tell you that much right now. Play stories would be the one that would be out. I mean, you're gonna pay Place another sixteen million dollars a year, that's all he plays. Yeah, I'm just saying it'll be interesting.

And the fact that it's always because Miles signed his deal. There's only only so much you can spend on the defensive side of the ball. You're gonna pay Jalen. It'll be interesting to see what they do. Yeah, there's only so much of the pie, and Miles is smart to go get his p's of it. I agree with you well as you say, Pete, what's your favorite saying. If it's good for me, it's good for me, all right. I'm not waiting on anybody else. I'm get mine now.

He's the most selfish person. Yeah, he is with me, No, not even close. How much of that that reading money, when you do those reads that JP helps you with, you tip him with it for it. I give him a nice little Christmas present he did. He was very nice this year, thank you. Yeah, he was very nice. Pete. You mind your own mind your own business. Pete. You know what it is, j P. It's probably something somebody gave to him for free that he great gifts to you.

I mean time is actually but I'm okay, this is pretty good gift. It was a good We're back in a moment. Let's get a good call. Peet. You gave a box at Dandy Sandwich. No, you can't say that's not me. I'm a sandwiches a box of sandwiches. Uh, well, I'm already tired. You can you record the rest of the show without me. We're back in a moment. Texas talk right around the corner as well and division rival making moves. This weekend, It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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the Bahamas by the storm. Are we making light of it? No? No, okay, I think it's appropriate. I like this. We have an early show today. We're live on Facebook at noon and if you're listening on the radio, it's a tap show from earlier today. Welcome. So if you're listening on the radio, call in and add questions, right, they'll be they'll be right with you. That's Tony Basli. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

Pete Priscoe is down in South Florida. The Jaguars are out of here the next two days away from the building. They're planning to come back Thursday and listen, things get really harry the next couple of days. Well, here's the interesting thing about this storm. It's going so slow. I mean, Thursday might be the day when it's off the coast. It's gonna be past Jackson by Thursday. It was going one over the But once it hits that, once it gets over a little bit and hits the thing, it's

gonna go up a little bit quicker. You think it's that Gulf stream and take off. Tody, let me ask you this legitimate question. Would you rather be the team that has the mr isn't a day but is at home and doesn't have to travel, or the team that has to travel it's a full week. I don't think it matters either way. I mean, you know, Pete, the road is the travel in the NFL. It's not hard. It's not a hard trip, a nice airplane, still out

of your routine. And there's got to be a reason why teams don't play as well on the road, don'ty, Typically it's harder, it's the home crowd make gives you an advantage. So what what would you rather be? Would you rather be the Chiefs for a full week of practice playing on the road, or the Jaguars? I always rather be the home team, of course, always. That's a dumb question. But yeah, but doesn't the gate no advantage by missing a day? No? I don't think so, okay,

do you No? I don't, absolutely not. And again, these teams have been game planning for Week one across the league for like the last month. You know how they do that? Like six months? Yeah, of course, So no, Now I gotta deal with the shady McCoy this week. Why didn't we go out to shady? Well? I think they signed him really fast? Why don't we sign him really fast? Like, I mean, can you play for him before? Our backfield is not the strongest, right, I mean, if if it was, if it was me, the second he

got cut from Buffalo, I signed him. He average three point two per rush last year. Okay, so it did for net that's the end. I'll be all either sadis are you thinking? So you think he's done? I don't know if done is the word, Tony. I think he's a spot player. Now, exactly how much do you pay him to be a spot player? Three million bucks? That's what you got. I'm not paying him three million bucks to be a spot player. You're trying to win this

thing this year. I mean the window, the window for the Jags because it's it's built around defense, and Pete, you and I've talked about this. The windows close quicker when you build are on defense. It's like this year, next year, and then you're gonna it's gonna be hard to pay everybody. So as they line up right now, who gets the second of the carries? If Tad, Yeah, I'm okay with that. Okay, he young legs Yeah, I'm

okay with it too. But okay, after apparently not you wanted to sign, you wanted to sign, you wanted to sign McCoy read the read the running back room right now for us, So we got Leonard for the pick up from New Orleans isn't bad either, they picked up two guys, uh one from here we go, here's the here's the here's the running back room. Leonard for Requil Armstead, Tyler Irvan and Divine a Zigbo it's not bad and Alfred Blues on the the I R coming back thing. Well,

how do you know how zigbo? Because he was he flashed it in training camp, that's why. And then out of rookie, out of Nebraska. He's a big dude six uh. And then the other it is little as a little he's not big. Um. Look it's fort for net for net and arnge detal spot. That's what it will do. And urban's also a punt returner, that's what they that's why he's You need someone besides DD returning punts. You cannot afford DD to be out there get hurt on

the punt return. We haven't talked about the cut and he makes surprises for you guys, not really, No, No were you were you surprised? Shatly made it? No? No, you caught him two weeks ago. No, I did not. You talked about it. Yeah, that was that was like four weeks ago. It was the first week of second week of training camp. So you know, and we talked about because A j Can was getting reps at center, and I said this might be the move JP did he cut him. I did not cut him. You had

the guillotine. He rolled it in here. You cut well So you got that one, right. I did do that one. I never cut Shatley. I said, well, you were setting the table. Yeah, because this is what I thought they were doing. Sha and Wells in the same sentence. I do not that much. Do you remember, Like, would you like you go home and listen my voice recordings. I just like to call you out when you're wrong. I'm right. I was right then and I'm still right. I never

cut him. I cut I said Wells would not make it. I said Shatley would just last week. I said, if you'd make it four weeks ago. I said he was gonna make it four weeks ago. I said, they're putting cannet centered to get snaps. This might be a problem for Shatlee and it might be on his way out if if if they can't center. Okay, so he makes it. But the offensive line cuts were pretty much straightforward. Don't you think Brandon Thomas made it right? Right? We said

that all along he would make it. He started hot, he did not. I don't think he played great in the preseason games, so not bad. But basically, guys who set out the last game, all of them are here obviously eight eight guys sitting down in preseason Week four on the old line, so no surprise cuts at all. And on the offense zero not for me, no me either. Yeah, wide receiver they kept. Let's see here they c J Board. What's the guy they kept? But that became a parent

as this camp went along. In preseason went along, he was. He was ahead of Prior, who doesn't play special teams. He was ahead of c. J. Board doesn't play special teams either, though he didn't much, but he was ahead of those guys because he could run. McBride was kind of the guy pushing him a little bit. Yep. What about the tight ends they got rid of Koyak? Yeah, Koyak got cut to day um or yesterday, I should say, yeah, yesterday when they claimed all those guys. Uh, did they

put Jones on the pass squad? Yes, the tight end, yes. I wouldn't be surprised. By the end of the year. If he's not on the active roster, he's a good blocker. He's didnt get a lot of time in games in the preseason. He was hurt, you know. And what's the injury report on the Oliver cat? Oliver has been back on the I mean I remember him being back on the field practice, But we haven't heard when do they put the when do they have to give the injury report? Wednesday?

Right Wednesday? You know the kid they picked up from Cleveland, the All Kids, a pretty decent player. The tight end from Cleveland. Yeah, Seth. They got better at that position. Is it seth the ball or involve? Oh? What? Oh? Now you're gonna be a stickler for pronouncing or ball. There's a v in there at the end. It's called to check. You want to spell it force, Tony, I might beat the spell for me. I want to SWI I like to spell it for me. Put on your

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supplies last Gate serving up more. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans to Pete Kadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco, Thank you Joe the Association bringing us back Hurricane Dorian sending the Jaguars away from this building for a couple of days. All the guys will be home or wherever they need to be, and they'll on Thursday. What yes it was? I agree I thought it was outstanding. Oh my gosh, I don't know what the heck. It was my hurricane dance. That's your make it go, make

it go out to sea. That's I was trying to do. That's get away from Us dance. Okay, And that's not what it looked like. It looked like you were had no rhythm. Well that's the dance, okay, all right, just check it. I mean it's purposeful. That was a purposeful, non rhythmetic dance. No, what was that? Wait? What was that one again? J What in the world non rhythmic? Is that what you said? Didn't you make any sense? Close? It's like he makes a word up a Week's unbelievable.

They just make themselves, Pete. We don't have to do anything. Man, you have too many lobsters last night. This is unbelievable. It's just a joke that keeps on giving it. Just mean, come on, it's too easy fishing a barrel, man, this is easy. Just tee it up. What are you talking about? Can't you make it work? How did not make a word a week? Is an exaggeration completely, Yes, you've had several that you've not pronounced very well. Yeah, well, how do you say make up words? How you said? How

do you say the backup tackle's name for the Jaguars? Boy? Boy? I said again, how do he said? Booy? No, it's not. No, it's not keep trying, no, keep going? What it is? What is it? What is it? Boy? No? It's not No. Wait, you got it? All right? Congratulations? I told you where his real name is, Houston. I only know him by that name, the Houston Texans. The last two days? Um boy, what what changes down there? They don't have GM right now? First of all, and then it's obvious the clowney situation.

He ends up in Seattle. And then they make a massive trade with the Dolphins to get Tonsil and some other guys in there there, trading first round picks left

and right, two first rounders and a second rounder for Tunsil. Yeah, and and and players, I mean, think about it, and players Stills backs were gonna cut Stills, but go ahead, right, And so for me, you can't give away through first round picks for tons of Last time I checked, he wasn't even a top five tackle and a second rounder, right, yeah, and two players. Julie's Davenport was not great, but he's played. I mean, no, I I just for me, it was a bad deal Tony, just two ones. Think about that

for I can't believe they did it. And first off, all offseason they talked about how they're so happy with mc Khalil being their left tackle, and then Khalil was dinged up all off season and they drafted two got two tackles in the first two rounds and they're playing in my guard. So that's a fail from the word get goes. So now they panicked to go get Tonsil because I don't want their quarterback taking it beating. Isn't Tonsil a guy who's missed some time too? He's been

good last year. It was really good though, I mean, but he's not a I mean, you know, I trade two first round picks for a guy unless he's uh, you know, one of the best in the best in the league or two three best in the league. Would you, okay, I'm gonna ask this, would you take trade two first round picks for Tyron Smith? No? No, it would. I I wonder if I mean he I wonder if if Bill Bryan would have just called put out there, like we'll offer two first rounders first two first round pick

for any tackle. I mean, I guess it's like every team, Well do that, Okay, if you're the if you're the Cowboys, Tyron Smith, you would take two ones for him, don't you. Yes, you're the Packers back tr would you take two ones for him? Probably? Yeah, I mean, you know, look at the look at the tackles around. Why would they have just tried to get Trent Williams probably could have got it for less than that. I don't know, and they

packed And I've heard that Tonsil. I mean, he's very good player, but he doesn't love football like he likes He likes football like he likes what like he likes it. But have you heard that beat down there? Love ball? And you know, which is part of probably part of the reason why Flora's who wants the guys who love football. At some point to his contracts gonna come up and he's gonna have some leverage down in Houston, right, I mean, they got to pay him, but they the farm for

That's what I'm saying. So he's gonna happen against it. It's not just that deal. Then. The one of the great deals of all time is trading Clowney for a third round pick. They would have got a compensatory third round pick if they would have just let him go. So they this season, plus they are paying for half of the salary to go play somewhere else. Like, someone's got to explain this. Why then you just don't let him go or let him play play where played? For

the tag, he would have come in and played. Was he going to come in and play? Yeah, he's not gonna leave that money on the table. He would have come in and play. The problem is O'Brien had a problem with him early in his career and kind of held a grudge and carried over and they didn't think he was an elite pass rusher to pay him the big giant contract. That was the way they viewed him. Well, then they were better off just letting him go instead

of tagging him. Well, they could have pulled the tag off. That's my point. But do you understand right they got they would have gotten a third round compensatory tip pick. They just let him go, and now they traded them, he would have a salary agent they would add to play this year. Then let him go. He can't release

him and they get competitory tick for him. My point is, if they they told me they told me when I was solving a couple of weeks ago, they wanted him to come in and play and show that he's worth the money, he would be motivated. They would be okay with it, and then they's something change between now and that. My questions, Pete, if they were to pulled the tag that he's released, he's not released because he never signed it. He's a free agent. But you're making that decision to

pull I don't think they would get your petitory. They would have to let him play and then let him go. Okay, I don't know, But why not let him play, Tony, I don't know why you wouldn't. They were way better with him than without him, Like he was the most disruptive player on that defense. Well, he's not a great pass rusher, he's violent and he plays the run very well, and they move him around and create stuff for him

to go get to the quarterback. So yeah, there's there's a lot to be excited about him, but they don't think he's a hand on the ground. Line them up wide, go win guy. That's the problem. Still a good football player, There's no doubt they're better on defense when he's out there. Yeah, but what you have to ask yourself, he gave us fence. Let's put it that one. They should they should have kept him and then traded to get I mean, are

they that much better by trading to get Tonsiled? Uh? Yeah, I mean Touns is a good player now, but the quarterback holds the ball too. I agree, So I don't know. I just look, they'll be better on the offensive life. They should be better on offense this year, we would agree. Losing Lamar Miller hurts them. Yeah, I mean they got the kid from Cleveland, um Duke Johnson Johnson who was a good football player. Yes, but yeah, losing Lamar does hurt them. I just think the whole management of the

situation is just nuts. But how do you pay? Why would you pay for half of clownees? I don't I don't get that one who has the final say down it right now? Pete. It sounds like, I mean, there's a guy who worked that once upon a time, work inside the Jaguars building that has a lot of juice in there now too, And I don't ever remember him, Jack Easterby, I don't know what about do you remember him in the building to what is it? Was there something?

Uh didn't? The Clowney has some choice words for Bill O'Brien on his way out too. I haven't seen anything where you're doing them up, but I know they had a bad relationship. Yeah. Well, I mean, okay, one of the guys they got back in that deal that Jacob Martin Kidd had three sacks last year. He's got ability to rush the passer. Yeah, Clowney had nine. Right, So the two guys that got back, Mingo and Martin had four. Mingo is getting cut by Mingo is not any good.

I'm just saying party only and nine. It hurts them. I don't care what they say. I to Capitally mad him play by the Way easterbyum in two thousand five was his first NFL job as assistant director of football Operations in Jackson, right with the Jaguars. Let's come back in a moment, Shally, a little more storm talk. We'll get into Miles Jack a little bit more down the line as well. Oh, and the Kansas City Chiefs are coming to town Sunday. The trader, uh Pete was worth

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didn't he? Who's to use this? Yeah you did? I'm digging it. Sorry, Tony was Sally J. P. Shad let a breathe Pete Frisco today. I like it. There's another hurricane song that's the whole I know, pay you gotta let scorpions. I know who it is rock you like a hurricane? Yeah, all right, all right, welcome kind of move on, here we go. Did you get your fill of that, Tony? Now we can move on. We can move on. Producer Tony Today said, we need to listen to the music. Thank you. Well, you had to get

that line and you had to get that. We've been waiting for that, the whole song. Uh, it paid off. Finally there it is. Um. So, yeah, that's the changes in schedule. I mean you heard Doug Moron say there. I mean obviously some players will be affected by those evacuation orders. So the team and not convening the next two days and then we're back Thursday, weather and stadium permitting, and then the game scheduled Stifford Sunday, one o'clock. The

Kansas City Chiefs coming to town. We haven't really delved into the Chiefs too much here, and we will as the show moves along. But hey, it's gonna be a fantastic matchup. Great offense in Kansas City, the whole deal, the m v P everything, Jaguars defense, new look on offense. What's it really gonna look like we'll find all that out on Sunday. What was the final last year? Do we do you remember one? Maybe? Yeah? Defense did well that day and did very well, one of the best

performances against that team all year in the league. Actually, I think it was the we get We held them to the lowest point total of any team. I think the defensive they were a defensive touchdown, right, Yeah, that was a bad performance. It was they got on. It was the offense was atrocious, terrible. It was thirty to fourteen. It was also twenty three nothing at one point. Yeah, but it was if you remember right, it was seven,

it was nothing. It was thirteen nothing when we intercepted them in there on their side of the field, and then we decided to throw a pick six Jones intercept. Question. Yeah, so there was opportunities. Offense was not good. Defense is fine. The question is going to this week, and I'm interested to hear your take, Pete. You sat down Patrick Mahomes. I mean, I expect them to be just as good offensively as they were last year, if not better, I would agree with. And I don't know if he's gonna

throw touchdown passes. I'm just saying it's an offense altogether. Yes, I would agree with you. So it's a huge test for the defense. I don't expect the defense to shut down Kansas City. I think they'll slow them down own. I think they can keep them under thirty. But I expect the Chiefs to score twenty eight points. I think the Jaguars have to score thirty to win if they offense. Argument sake, what if they limited them to seventeen? What's that say about the defense? It says they're awesome if

they did something like that. See for me, what they did against the Colts last year was unreal, shutting that team out. Absolutely absolutely. That team was on a roll when they did that. So I think this game, if they held the Chiefs to seventeen, that show says a lot. We'll sell a lot about the defense to a lot. I think that defense is gonna be special this year. I think twenty eight gets him to overtime, thirty wins the game. Do you think the Jaguars need to score

thirty points to win that game? See? I don't. What do you think Kansas is in the score? Uh? Any one? Maybe? I think Jackson was winning the game? Is it a lock? No? I'm not doing that. But I think the whole thing with the opener, I think they're gonna put so much into this like they did with the Patriots last year. Uh, I could see them holding of the twenty four points. So that's like, alright, type of game they got win. Are you what do you think about Jalen traveling with Tyreek? Yeah,

Todd Wash at the Back to Football kickoff luncheon. There was a panel the other day where that quote came out of Pete where he said, basically, he's gonna follow Tyreek. Yeah, I'm fine with it. Why not. Yeah, it's something he's wanted to do for a long time. You know, they're not gonna That doesn't mean they're gonna do it every play, but when they play a lot of man, he's gonna flip to that side of the field and go travel

with the only Yeah, exactly what it means. The only thing that I would think about doing if I was Todd Wash is put Jalen on the number two guy, which is Sammy Watkins, and let him go man to man with Sammy and then double Tyreek and double Kelsey. Yep, double Kelsey, double Tyreek and put Jalen on Island by himself with Sammy that that might work. But here Patriots. Patriots do this all the time. Billy Check does it

all the time. He'll take his number one corner, Gilmore and put it on the number two receiver and say you are by yourself with this guy, and we're gonna double number one. Right. I agree, that works a lot of times. How about this, though, Jalen on Tyreek is a long corner on a small receiver. I've had many a corner in this league, including Patrick Peterson. Tell me the toughest guys that give them the most fits of the little quick guys, not the long, linear guys Tyree.

I mean, the change of direction on Tyreek is what makes it difficult to speed. So would you do that if you were If you were the Jaguars, put Ramsey on them. I think if I was the Jaguars, I would put Ramsey on Watkins completely, take Watkins out of the game, and then I would double Tyreek because I'm not sure walking to probably get hurt in the third place.

You won't have to worry about it because I'm not sure. Pete, I think Jalen is the best corner in football, but I'm not sure he erasist Tyreek because that's a tough matchup, a tough, really tough matchup, because it's they're so different. Like when you put Jalen on Hopkins, that matchup makes sense right, bigger longer if you put Jalen on Julio,

that would make sense. Jalen on Tyreek Hill that's a small, shifty, quick guy and the the tall quarters have told me those are the kind of guys that give them problems. It's exactly who gives that gives him the most fits. Not that Jalen can't do it right, but I think he erases Watkins like from the game. And then you double Tire, then you double then you double Tyreek with the other corners, and then in the safety, and then you double with the tight end and on with Kelsey,

with the linebacker and the safety. Right then you got them all ticket character and then they handed off to that Miko Hardeman who can fly at a Georgia. Nobody got nobody has them, So you know, I mean, that's I mean that it'll be really interesting to see what to do. But the question is, and we'll talk about in the second hour, can this offense score more than point you don't know. And it's also a new look Chief's defense. Let's not forget about that. You got Frank Clark. Well,

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is this Jaguar's offense? Look, how do they score points in this game? How's it gonna happen? Well? Can they four points? You can? I agree, we said it a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not gonna change now because I don't. I still believe it. The preseason is useless to make any judgments about what you're gonna be or not be. With that said, it's a brand new offense, new quarterback, new coordinator, a lot of new pieces, and I never saw them getting in any kind of rhythm.

Forget about who was who was actually playing, but there was never like a rhythm this offense got into the entire preseason. They played four drives. I'm even the backups. I'm just saying there was never like that sense of watching them. This is like, Okay, we know what they're going to be like, this is the style they're gonna be. Um So I have no idea. I don't even know what to expect, but I hope they can score at least twenty four. They gotta score at least twenty four

and win this game. So you said, I said, I think thirty guarantees them to win at least twenty four. Tony, Are you at all concerned about the Chief's interior being able to block the Jaguars interior at all? Because they got a new center and writer, and they got a new the guard. While he's okay, the Tardif do Rena Tardif is a solid player. But that's not a great group on the inside. Um yeah, I mean, I don't think their tackles are great either. They're good, not great.

Swarts is good. Um yeah, I mean I think but pe I expect our defense play well. I expect them to hit Patrick Mahomes. I expect them to slow down that offense. I expect that. My question is, offensively, can we score? This is a team that averaged the thirteen points a game last year fourteen wherever the number words, and didn't exactly come out and just overwhelm you with what they did in free agency. Outside of uh falls, they weren't stunning in the preseason. They were terrible the preseason.

So I'm looking at it and saying, okay, how do they score points? Where did the where did the points come from? On this team? They're still gonna run the ball, they help right, well, the offensive line is gonna be healthy. Right, They're all playing across the board. So they had played at all barely together right in the entire preseason, So

that's important. Played six points together, right, So we getting norwell and Linder healthy is important compared to where they've been in the last year, right, all right, So that you would assume that would be something that would help them a little bit better. I think for Net looks lighter and leaner and quicker and much more involved. I heard the exact that exact same quote was said last year at this time, by the way, but it was to forty something. Last year. Remember he came in, he

was lighter, he was back to his college way. Ye last year. I'm just saying, like you just repeated what you we said last year about Leonard for Nett and then and then offensive you know, you got a better, much better quarterback. I agree with that. And receivers they're no worse than they were a year ago. Okay, are they better? No? Although I think the d will be better than he was a year ago. My question is a simple one, Pete. Where is the word of the touchdowns?

Who's going to score the touchdown? Yeah, well I gotta you gotta score at least twenty something. Okay, So if you're gonna have, if you need four touchdowns on Sunday, who was scoring four touchdowns? And where is that going to come from? I don't think again. I think they went twenty one twenty this week. That goes against what you were saying to the need ar and thirties are guaranteed. Listen, if they hold the uh, if they hold the Chiefs to the morning point, it's a great It's an amazing

defensive performance. Because I think this, I think this Chief's offense is really good, and I think Patrick Mahomes is better than he was last year because of experience, I would agree, and so I think they're gonna be really really good. I think our defense is really really good. But with the way the rules are set up in today's NFL, it favors the offense. They lock them makes

it really hard. Is it better to play these guys week one before they get really rolling, because there's gonna be rusta Although they played a lot in preseason, a lot more and you're at home on a hot, sunny day. That's help too, Repete, they played a lot in the preseason, they did a lot more than any else. They did well. Interesting to see how they come out. What do you think defensive? I mean that they're switching to that for three. Frank Clark is a beast, Chris Jones is a beast.

The rest of that defense, you know. I think I did talk to Honey Badger when I was out there. He loves the defense. He's actually put on ten pounds because he's gonna be more in the box this year. Um So I think defensively they're okay. But they don't have to be good. They just need to be okay. No, I mean because they're gonna put up thirty five a game or whatever. Just be good enough. But I think they're beatable in the secondary. I think, you know, Fuller

is good breathing on the other side, just okay. I mean, they're just okay at the corner. I understand that starts and plays he's a liability and coverage you can attack him a little bit. P And I agree with you, but you just told me that the Jaguars are just okay at the skill set positions, skill positions as well as far as wide receivers. I agree, I agree, So they kind of offset each other there. Don't you agree DD's better than he was a year ago? Yes, I

do so. There there's a plus that's an advantage. Is chart better than he was a year ago? I don't know. I don't know. I have not seen it in the games. How about that? No? No, I don't know. And the tight end position is a mystery to me, big mystery. I haven't seen a lot of them. You know, Swam has been banged up a little bit. Oliver is a rookie, he's been banged doesn't play a snap. Yeah, we don't

know about that. We have no idea about that. I don't even like, Like, I feel bad for everyone listening because I don't even know what insight to give you, Like, how do you evaluate what they're gonna be? Or? Do I have no idea? You know who doesn't either? The Chiefs don't either. Fair Enough, I would say this though, for that's going to be more involved in a passing game. I know that he also needs to take handoff closer than a lot of scrimmage, the zone read runs he has.

He's much better than when he stands in the back and takes a ten yards behind a line of spermons and does his dance it. He never takes it. He never takes it. He never takes it ten yards back, not ten But you know what I mean. He can't pake a hole. Well, once you say it, tell us what you mean instead of us trying to figure it out. I'm being sarcastic. Tony, okay, sorry, and we missed that part. We didn't come across that way. Said you're very specific in the yard, and so I'm like, wow, I've never

seen that before. Okay, fifty takes a hand off fifty yards. That's now you sound sarcastic. Now it's like you're speaking, you know what I'm talking about. That's yer so hyper much better than what he has to pick and choose. Would you agree? Um? I have to look at it. I have to look at it. But yeah, I think that's fair. Like even his best preseason run, if I'm not mistaken, was his own read like we just took

the hand off and against Miami. If I'm not mistaking, I do not recall Pete you could be you could be right, though, it looks like we're gonna using more in the passing game too. He just said that, Jap, He literally just said that, and you repeated that sarcastic. Were you listening? Were you here forty seconds ago? And Pete said that, you know they might use them in the past year. I don't know. Yeah, let's come back in a moment. Well, um, we'll get into Miles Jack

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you play Sam. I've always felt from the beginning, whether you guys felt definitely not, that in all three of those positions he can excel and be one of the top performers at that position. There was also a time last year where we were getting them ready to play running back, you know, saying a certain situations because of uh, you know, our injury situation last year. So you're talking

about someone who's obviously an exceptional athlete. Doug Marone today discussing Miles Jack the first time the head coach has been in a microphone since the signing the extension of Miles Jack Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy, r j P Shattered, Tony Wasselli, Pete prisco Um and we touched on Miles Shack earlier in the who Stop, whoa? Where's the music? Where was that what we had when we had Doug Marole there. I can't do this segment without some storm music.

I mean, yeah, please, that's what did you just say, Joe? She said, promise, yeah, please get him off there like that highly highly rated show we did a couple of weeks ago when he wasn't around. Huge numbers, huge you know what, you know what beat out that show though? Last week's show no highest rated show in the history of the station last week. You know, you know, you know, Tony, that's just like a normal Thursday. So it's not nothing new about it. When me and log him in there together,

something new. There's a spark there. It's not what Jeff said. He said you brought him down. No, I brought him up. It was nice for a change, not to have somebody streaming at every every turn. You actually got some words in Pete. Yeah, Selly thinks it shows his sometimes. No, sometimes sometimes, Let's be clear, I do not think that I know that, Oh my god, you're a tackle. I'm the quarterback. Never from no, no, just blocked for me, please,

Miles jack instinct thoughts there. There were certain situations last year, or Doug Marone said it today, they were working Miles Jacket running back, which played in college. That was a kind of a not quite a desperate situation last year when he was doing that. But they're they're super confident in what Miles can be for this defense, and they can throw him out there and and pretty much any

situation and be comfortable with him. He is. I mean, I'm remember when he got remember the draft day four years ago. It was I mean, there was talk of him being gone in the top ten and he sat there on day two and we grabbed him. It was a great pick up that we traded up a few spots to get him, great pick up. And he's, uh, he's a he's a special athlete. I still don't think we've seen his best football, though I don't either. I think his best football is coming. Yes, I don't think

we've seen his best. We've seen I mean, you can see you see his athletic ability on display. You can see him. We're in sideline, the sideline. I think he's gonna I think he's just gonna continue to get better. And I think his I think it's a very good signing. I think it's I go smart by Miles, jump on it, get it done while uh we had the opportunity, and he is more valuable to this team this year than

he's ever been, because there's no He's it. When you're starting a rookie at will prop unless not or either a rookie from a small uh small school Williams, or you're going with don j Good, the nine year veteran. I mean, Miles Jack has to be a I mean it's no longer Telvin and Miles and where Miles is kind of took a took He kind of took a I don't wanta say a back seat, but he was kind of the second guy in that. You know, it was Telvin when you thought about Jaguar linebackers, it was

Telvin first. Not anymore. It is now. I mean Miles Jack's room. Miles Jack is the leader, Miles Jack has the talent, and now it's time for Miles Jack be one of the best linebackers in the NFL, and that's a good thing, by the way, um. For from my standpoint, I think Miles needed that. He needs to be the guy that's in the leading the room. I think he needs to be his room. I don't think he needed Tellvin around him. To be honest with you, and I

think it's a good thing it's now his room. But Tony, I thought what we saw from him in the playoffs after two thousand and seventeen would be what we saw from him during the regular season last year, and it didn't turn out that way. I thought that last year was gonna be his year to ascend to be one of the best middle livebackers in the league, and it

didn't work out. So now that it's his room and he has to be more accountable for himself in that room, I do think, like you, he's gonna take the next step. But when you agree that what he showed the playoffs in two thousand and seventeen wasn't what was on the field last year in two thousand, um, he did not play as well, There's no doubt about that. But I love the kid, But I don't know. I mean he was still good. He was really good in the playoff.

That playoff running, Oh, he was awesome. Um, you know, but I'm looking forward to I think he has a big year this year. That's gonna sense. He's gonna have a monster year, like a dominating type of year. How do you think they start that position next to him next week? This week I get to be Quincy Williams. If he knows the defense? Why not? Right, He's faster, he's more athletic, he want He was the running with the ones before he got hurt. He was having a

great camp. I mean, you gotta learn sooner or later. Throw him in there. It'll be his first NFL action at all. You didn't playing the prese Welcome to the NFL. You're gonna go cover Travis Kelsey. Now, let us know how that goes. He's a tough, tough first a siement. He'll get used to the speed of the NFL too. He did to see the fastest team in the NFL for the fastest offense of the NFL Week one. They're

they're fast, no question about it. They're fast. If you were the coach, would you start him or not doing good? Start him? Yes? I think he was asking me Pete. He wanted to ask the football guy. Um, I would start Quincy. Well, then you agree with me? No, you agree with me. I said it first, I know, but you weren't supposed to. That's the point. But if I said it first and then you said it after me, that means you agreed with me, you're impossible. I rest my case. As usually I win one what there was

no competition there? What you win there's always at Yes, you want participation trophy for being here for the show. Is that what you want today? Yes? Okay, I'm well, I asked Dan Edwards when I came in, am I getting paid hazard hazard pay? And I've been evacuated. I live in an evacuation and I'm coming to an evacuation zone working in an evacuations on a holiday. It should be like really like time and half times two, like three three x. I should be getting paid a lot

of math hazard holiday pay. I don't think that's gonna happen. We should be hazard pay for working with you all the time. That's fair. I can't argue that. Hey, Tony, do you think that was the right decision to pay Miles Jack At this moment? Uh, yeah, I do. Yeah, I'm sure they got I mean, I I haven't looked at the deal closely, but I'm sure they got a little bit of a discount. I agree, you gotta get

it done now. I think he's a player you want to keep, You gotta you want to build with, and unless you need to get you need to get some of your guys. The second contracts, Well, there's one. Ramsey will get to a second one. But name the last. I mean in the Dave Caldwell era, right, who how many guys have got to second contracts? Telvin back lender right, Blake Portals. It doesn't out he got to a second No, he didn't. He got to his fifth year. He was

gone for five years. Would do you agree that the Telvin second contract backfired? You know he played a one year right, yeah, backfired. He's not even here anymore. I don't even count Talvin. It's funny how fast you kind of He hasn't even been in the mindset. He's done weeks. I don't think he got a second I don't think he ever comes back with two years left on his deal? Don't they Telvin comes back? No either, I'm not sure they want him back. I would. I wouldn't want him back.

I don't want to play I don't want to play one like. Look, I've been saying it all along. Wasn't like he was the greatest linebacker in the world. He made a lot of tackles, but he made a lot of bad misplays and missed assignments. You know, I don't think they're gonna miss him. To be honest with you, you agree, you agree to because you've told me that you don't want to say it on the air. What you just make stuff up? You never said that, said what.

I stop paying attention to you when you were mumbling that they would that they won't mis him as much as everybody's portraying it as being. Didn't markis you get to a second country? I might said, Yeah, I can't remember if I said that or not. You said it. I know you said it, Okay, I said it. I think they'll be fine because we disagree with log of it on that one. Yeah, I think it'll be fine at the end of the time. I mean they're gonna

be a top five defense again. I think defense is gonna be better this year than it wasn't two thousand, only because there's no way they're gonna score that many touchdowns. Oh but as a dfense, I think you know they might not get as many touchdowns. I think their sack number will go up even more. Do you know they're not gonna score as many touchdowns? Obviously because that's an aberration season. But third, I think from a strictly look

at him on paper defense, they will be better. Um yeah, I worry about the depth a little bit on the D line, interior D line specifically three technique, specifically Tavin Bryan about way to get to that. But okay, let's just go right. But maybe somebody will teach him how to disengage once in a while. Um so he he doesn't have football instincts, Tony, he gets lost, Yes, he does not. He does not reacts. Let's start positive though. What does he do well? He's big strong? Um yeah,

he's big and strong, good athletes. He could get some push once in a while. I just doesn't know how to get off again. He's powerful. It's a powerful human being. Talenticate. He does not have the best natural instincts and awareness on the football field. Can you learn that? Uh? I think a good portion of it is just natural like you, you kind of just have that. Um, can you become

better at it? Yeah? I think you can train yourself and you know, because really work at it from a film preparation and and really try to just overload so you can maybe see things better out there or anticipate things better. And so I think he can improve it. But is he ever gonna be a guy that you say? Boy, he just has great instincts, he has great awareness. You know, there's just those guys that make plays. They're just around the ball at the time. I don't know if he'll

ever be that. But can you get better? Sure? What would you have cut him? No? No, No, If he plays like he said so far, he's played next year, they might be in danger of being cut. Yes, yes, yeah, too early for all that, way too early. But I mean, come on, you pump the brakes. Let's go slow your roll a little bit. Pete, did you just cut Taven right? Did you cut him? Put it out there September? Because he doesn't. The instincts are the only thing missing, and

that might never get him. Do you just got him? Pete? Just got him? Next year? That's very unprofessional? No? Next year? Well, what do you like about the back. Okay, so Aby Jones is a good player. They got Darius, they got they got canambled, they can slide inside. What do you what do you think of smooths A guy who's been around, this is his fourth year. I believe it has never jumped out as a guy that makes place to me or he's never like done anything that just goes wow.

I think he's a solid year. I think he's a solid guy. Um. I think he's They like him. I think they like him to play more three technique, which is an inside in certain situations, especially in sub defense, nickel defense. I don't know if he's strong enough for powerful enough to do it. How he will handle that close contact situation, close close area. Um, So he's a nice player. Were you surprised that Russell made the team? I thought he he gave you more than Elie Anko did,

big kid, and he he moves better than Eli. Is a nice player. I think Eli Eli needs to go play somewhere. Knows in a three four be a big gap to gap knows. So the cuts that defensive line were easy then for the most part. Yeah, Okay, were you surprised that at the linebacker cuts. No, those are pretty easy too write. They like the kids that Giles Harris or whatever. They liked him a lot, right, Yeah, special teams we'll see. I mean he needs to he

needs to make sure. I mean, he will not be here very long if he doesn't play well on special teams. And then the secondary cuts came down to what wind guard against Rebus. Yeah, wind guard against Uh that was the last for the last spot, and we're uh, it's not wind guard either. It's weingird, wingard whatever, wingers. No, let's get it right, Pete. We're professionals here. Wind and Herndon and Borders were pretty much they were going to

make it both. We'll try. Herndon is the fourth corner. Yeah, he's good. I think he's very good. And then Robinson's the extra he and he did great on special teams and he can play. I think he can play all four positions in the secondary, play safety or corner. He's been around the league for a minute too. I mean he's got an experience so that that helped him a lot. So they're specially the guys who made the team for special teams are Robinson, Davis Win, Giles Harris. Those guys

all made it for special teams. Well the other one, uh or did you say last year's special team's days? Okay, Corey, Cody Davis and then uh Lauren mccraigrag mccraig, Yes, did you say that? Did you say mccraig. But he didn't just make the team because of special teams and also brushed the pass he can't. But man, he's a special teams guy. That's why he's here. That's right now. He wanted to do more defensive stuff that I've worked him in the last year, but special teams, that's that's why

he's here. Yes, let's come back. We've got more. We'll talk. Let's let's get into the receiver room a little bit. Well, we haven't really touched on those guys a lot. We mentioned them. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that, great, shall we? Yes, then we'll go around the league. Let's do that, and then we'll get the heck out of here. I gotta go get ready for Hurricane Doran better hurry. Yep, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's

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missed this concert. I know I was bumped. It was awesome. Thanks for rubbing it in, Pete. Did they were in Miami a few days ago? They moved to the concert up a day the Stones? Did you go? I prefer my conscious to be done by guys under seventy five? Okay, then who's your favorite music cartist, Pete? If they're over seventy, eagles are all half of them are dead? If you were gonna go to a concert, what concert would you go to? Ah, don't really go to concers. I just

asked a simple question. If you were going to go to a concert, if there's one left, are all dead? They're not all dead. And you just said you don't go to any harm to you don't go. First of all, you just said you don't go to conscience. These guys over seventy well, I mean the Eagles at least still sound like the Eagles. The Stones sound like the Stones, by the way, they don't. Yeah, they did. I saw with the super Bowl. They were terrible. That's a super Bowl.

It's different. That was in Detroit. That was the Detroit super Bowl. Who would you go see? Miss Elly, Um, my favorite country band. I do like country, so I would go see uh well, he wouldn't go unless there's a couch in daily. Yeah, let's go through genres first. So one of my favorite shows i've seen, I've seen him actually twice is Garth Brooks A great show. It's a great show. Have you seen Garth? Is it not a great twice? When they had to run here a

couple of years. How good a show? Is that? Really good? So good? I'd go. You know who i'd like to go see is Ed Shearing. Yeah that's not my that's not mine. Amazing. Um, I would go see uh oh maybe a little you know who I'd like to see, But they're older and I would like to wish I would have seen them in their original group A C D C mhm great. Yeah, I never saw them. I can't tell you the last concert I went to. Um, who else should I see? I've seen you, I've seen YouTube.

They were good. I've seen Elton John a couple of times. I've seen Billy Joel, I've seen the Eagles. Earth Wind and Fire was fantastic. So let me just I don't want to burst your bubble peete, but you literally got on j P about I don't want to go. I'd like to go see concerts with guys under seventy. Everyone you just mentioned are in their seventies. Every one of them are in the seventies. Yes, the sixties old is old is old? You think the owld Don Henley stand by,

I bet he's I bet he's seventy. I'm gonna guess. I'm just I was just gonna play this game right now, stand by he's seventy to Actually I'm wrong there, Pete, Come on, man, Pete's an idiot. I think I don't think they sound the same anymore. Can you please apologize? No, old seventy six now right, he just turned seventy six. After the concert, he's a young man. He's dancing around like he's twenty six. Now. If you don't like the Stones, that's fine. Oh I love I always thought that I

like the Stones. I just don't think they sound the same anymore. Sounded fine to me. The other night. That was no they wentever they were in Jacksonville. What was that in the nineteenth July Europe and they just played in Miami. Um, they moved it up a day because Friday Miami. That's right. Yeah, I was supposed to be Saturday, so they just pushed up um wide receivers and we touched on CJ board who made it here? But this room as a whole, Pete, you said earlier, you know

they're they're fine. What what do you what can this receiver room be? Can they be? Can fulls make these guys better than they are? Or are they gonna improve? Or what do you what do you make of this wide receiver room right now? Yeah? Well, I think Westbrook's gonna have a big year. I really do. I think he's significantly better than he was a year ago. I do, And I think he's the go to guy now whatever. Conley is flashed and you can see there's a relationship

with him, and I think he'll help them. But what do you get from Chark and Lee? I mean, that's that's the unknown, right What do you get from those two guys, especially right now? Healthwise? It sounds like he's ready to go, right because he's not he's not on the list. Maybe he's not on the list, he's he's on the roster, he's not on the pup list. But we don't know, We don't know what his injury distinction is. We don't know how much he's practicing. We don't know

how his knee feels. We know nothing to say. We are like, that's a huge jump. Would you be there on Sunday? I don't. I don't expect him to play. You think he'll be at don't? No, I do not, that's my I don't. I don't have any idea. I have no insight. I'm if you were asking me to make a calculated guess and to bet on one way or another. I'm betting he does not play. I would agree with you. I don't think he's playing either. No, I'd be shot if he does, will be I mean,

that's great for him because he's a great kid. I hope he is playing, but I would be surprised if he did so. Top three receivers are Westbrook, Chart and Connolly on Sunday. Yes, yep, that's what you're gonna roll with Chart. You gonna make it a jump. We don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know he was looking good in camp and practices, but did he do anything in the games that made you go wow? I mean the one catch on the sideline that got negated by

a holding pedally. Remember they called it a drop. I thought, no, I think they would have challenged that and he would have caught it. But but remember they didn't then because it was negated by the hold of that was actually a good play. No, yeah, I'm I'm I'm just thinking through the preseason games that he played in. I never there was never when I was at that was against the Eagles, Okay, yeah, but there's never a moment where I was like, I mean, he's the guy. Okay, here's

a question for you. This group as is Westbrook, Chark, and Connolly, Are they better than the group that played in the playoff game against the Patriots? That was cole Lee Who's the first and Westbrook was the third as a rookie, right, Yeah, that's the first time we mentioned Keelan Cole's name in this show. By the way, Yes, it's better. Yeah, I would say Spider too, that Kila Cole, I mean killing Cole had the great story as an

undrafted rookie makes the team. It's productive starts last season with the one of the great catches of all time against the Patriots, and like, this guy is going to be a as a chance to be special, has the big drop and then the fumble and London he disappeared. He was never heard of. I don't think we even talked about him. I mean, did he do anything. I mean, I'm not sure he even had a catch. I know I'm being facetious here, but he did nothing after that

fumble in London. It's very quiet. And even that he was staggering into the London game. That was kind of like the you know, the straw broke the camel's back. Keel and Cole last year had thirty eight catches, four yards and one touchdown. Go game by game though, Yeah, but at the end of the second half of the season went zero zero zero to three zero zero four. That's my point. Right after Pete read his numbers after the Philly game and zero zero zero to three zero

zero four two three zero four. So he had nine catches in one to three four or five, six, seven eight and the second half of the season nine after after having in the first three. I'm telling you, he made that catch in New England. We were we were anointing him as like the next great receiver. They had a touchdown. I'm not taking from that. They only touched

at the only touchdown he had last year. Yeah, I mean against Kansas City he had four for seventy ten targets I think he had, and then he had seven targets against the Texans, two to for eighteen. And then he went against the Eagles and with that fumble and he went zeros for three straight weeks. He disappeared. It was over, like the mojo was gone after that fumble. It was it was leaking oil going in because he had he had some drops going in. I mean, he's

the fifth receiver on this roster. If everybody's healthy correct, Mark easily is healthy, yes, meaning they're gonna play much. That's the other guys are playing well. Yeah, sure, yeah, So how did they start on Sunday? On the offensive line? Cam left tackle, who I'm concerned about, uh Norwell left guard, Linder center. I'm going with well start and then the Workie Taylor Young right side. That's how That's how I would do it, and that's how they probably will do it,

don't Yeah, I would think. I haven't seen practices. I don't know how practice is going lately. So none of us do media not allowed. Let's come back, We'll go around the national football. There could be, could be what a deal in Dallas? Deal in Dallas? Right Pete for Zeke, We'll see how for Zeke. I'm looking you know what I'm looking forward to. You know what I can't wait for? What the next song is. We'll find out what the next storm song is a matter of minutes. Final moment

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this season. Stu Mart saving is a beautiful thing. Give her the sunshine, Baby, Welcome back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, Ja Shadrick, Tony Selly, Pete Priss go down in South Florida, Hurricane Dorian knocking on the door and the Jags will be out of the office for the next couple of days. Back at it Thursday. This is a Jacksonville band, Dennis Yost, I know it from Jacksonville. Deep musical history. Back that sunny day right, great too from Jacksonville. Did how about

that at halftime of the game preseason week four? Um that that that's the Jacksonville groups too, the Quad City d J's and all those guys. I didn't realize it was Jacksonville bands, but they were so um as we know that. The musical history here is pretty deep. Let's go around the National Football League and start off in big D where the Cowboys and they're running back might be getting closer, Pete, how close are they? Well? I think they're getting close. Here's the situation. He wants to

be paid more than Todd girl. The Cowboys don't want to go that high. There's a thirteen million dollar contract out there that Levian Bell got fourteen something for Girlie. I would imagine he gets done in about fourteen million. Member. He's got two years left on his deal, so seeing it come in about fourteen, they'll they'll fudge the numbers and make it look like it's a little more. It'll get done before the season starts. He'll play Sunday, that's

my guest. He'll play Sunday Wow this week. Yeah, I gotta have him though, Right, here's the guy. Um, what would happen if he was not available? Like, how would the Cowboys be a running back? Howdy? Apollo is a darn good looking rookie man. Now, running backs you can find them, you can as long as the lines work. But he'll be fine. Can I pay him? If you feel that way, Pete, I'm not saying I would pay him. I'm just saying they will. Jerry played this game in

nineteen four. That was a different era. Though Tony and Emmon Smith held out the first two games they lost, they went oh and two. He rushed signed Emmett. They went twelve and to the last fourteen games went in one issue Bowl after starting going to different error though there wasn't that was more of a run violent error than it is today. Was It's just spread. I'm not saying. I'm not saying you're not right, Pete. I'm just saying this is what happened. It will be interesting to see

if history repeats itself. Well. Well, Jerry dig In and saying I'm not moving until it costs him, I don't think part. That's why I think he gets done. Plus he's got two years left on his deal. Different situation, would you pay him, Um, probably you wouldn't. See the Todd Burley thing is hurt the running back market. I probably wouldn't. Two years early, I better get a discount if I'm doing two years early. I mean, why am I gonna pay you to be the highest paid player

in your position if I'm coming two years early? Right, So it should be thirteen and a half, then something there and they don't get done in that at Ballpark. Okay, the Andrew Luck aftermath continues. Brian Hoyer three year deal with the Colts twelve million bucks. Well, you know one thing around here, everyone's talking about, why don't we go get a veteran guy to back up Folds whilere we going with the rookie. Well, there's one reason right there.

You want to spend nine million guaranteed over three years, twelve total, four year for a backup that you hope never plays. Well, here's the other thing. Packers have Tim Boyle as their backup. If Raver Rodgers goes down, their seasons over And my point, Pete was, we had this big debate and not big debate, with a discussion Thursday night before the game, and I was the only one who said, Gardner Minshew is your backup, and it doesn't really matter because if you go to your backup, your

season is lost. Anyways, I agree, I'm with you, and that's how it is for almost every team in the NFL. And everyone what about the Eagles. Okay, the Eagles had Nick Foles. It was a like, there's not a lot of those backups around. Okay, If Tom Brady goes down to play Jared Stidham, it's over done. If Ben Roethlisberger goes down, right, they're done going to lead him to the playoffs. You saw the one year Brady went down, they were not good. Well they went there were eleven

and five. Well they weren't. They weren't. They were eleven and five, but they didn't win a division. They didn't go to the playoffs. Right, didn't win division. But the autoline is you can get if your quarterback can has to play one game or two games, you can manage it around him and get around him, whether Spin Show or Josh McCaw. If he's got to play eight nine games,

you're done. I agree, That's what I said, along and logg him in and j P and all the rest of them are arguing with me, saying we need to go get a veteran guy. First of all, who's out there that you're gonna get? And I'm not spending twelve million bucks. I'm Hoyer. I'm not either. It's not doing. Everybody's gonna throw at Kaepernick, oh stop, I forget all the off the field stuff with Kaepernick. I don't care

about that. I wouldn't have. I don't think Kaepernick was going to continue as a starting quarterback in this league on the path he was going on as how he was playing. He got bench for Blaine Gabber. That's my point I was trying to say. I mean, so you don't know now. The one that I thought intriguing because I think he might be better than uh garter min jew is Brandon Allen, who got cut from the Rams. And I always liked Brandon Allen. I thought he was

a good player. We remember this a lot, you said all the time him again, though, if you whether, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter one or two games, you're done, it doesn't matter. Right. The Steelers got an extension for Joe Hayden two years, twenty two million dollars. But that's eleven million a year. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's about, right. Yeah, he's a pretty good player when he's been on the field,

he's a good player. That's not a lot of money for a top corner and he's you know, I mean, other thing has been staying on the field. I mean, Jalen when he goes out, he's gonna get twenty a year, correct, twenty one a year. Correct. Wow, yeah, it's a lot of money, a lot of money. Chargers suspending the Melvin Gordon talked until after the season. Well, my favorite thing is is brilliant. They should have done it earlier. They said,

go ahead if you want to seek a trade. Nobody's trading for Melvin Gordon and paying him what he wants. When I had the Texans about Melvin Gordon, they laughed, Melvin Gordon is a nice player. He's not an elite running back. No, and the Chargers pretty much. I saw them two weeks ago, three weeks ago, and they told me the same thing. They said, we don't think he's an elite runner. We think he's a good runner. He wants to be paid like an elite runner. We're not

gonna do that. We'll play with Eckler, We'll play with Jackson and then be fine without him. I agree. I mean, he's not elite, he's good. And when they go out to the trade market and go try to find a trade, everyone else is gonna tell him we're not gonna trade for you unless you're willing to sign a contract that is what the Chargers are already wanting to pay you. The Chargers are willing to pay him. I heard nine million, nine nine and a half million a year, and he said, no, really,

I he's he's a little bit stiff. He's not a great space player as far as change the direction. He's a nice player, though. He's a good back, not great. Right. You don't play great money for good players. That's a curse. No, you actually want to try to play just good money for great players. That's what you're trying to figure out. You have it. There's our look around the National Football League.

Got a couple of minutes left here, Pete. What's um? Well, the storm will be kind of away from down there in the next day or so, so what's coming up? It's going on in your direction. I want everybody to stay safe. Let's hope it blows out to sea. Nobody has issues, uh, And we get back here on Monday and we'll be dissecting that Chiefs game, which, by the way, I've already made a prediction. I think the Jaguars win that game out right, what's the score? I think they

hold him to twenty tony. I think this defense is going to be truly special this year. And if you hold that group to any on opening day and will just send a message to the rest of the league. How special are you going to Becksonville? I got jacks? Are they locks? Both of these? No? Lock is the Jaguars will win the division? You're locking? That locking it? What was my lock? I had a lock? I can't remember my lock was. Don't you remember my lock? It was a sweep of the Titans. You're gonna sweep to

We're sweeping the Titans. I locked. I think that Jaguars are gonna have the number one rank defense in the league this year. Yeah, Tony thinks that Jackson sweep the Titans, a team that's beating him six and the last seven times. That's a lock. That's a that's more of a pick

against Mariota than anything. It is exactly right, Pete. I don't like you picking the way you are right now because historically whenever you picked the excuse me getting choked up, very choked up, very emotional time right now is every time you do it, Pete, it goes again. It's gonna last. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would prefer you to be on the wrong the other side. We when to say they're gonna go five and eleven. That make you feel better. Yeah, because then we're going to be in the super Bowl.

I don't know if they're into the super Bowl anyways. I just think they're a better team than they were two years ago, much better. All right, all right, gentlemen, what everyone? Stay? Everyone? All seriousness? Everyone? What what out there said they're gonna win? Are they gonna win a division? I'm I'm going week by week, week by week? Everyone be safe out there, all seriousness. Listen, don't be like me.

Listen to the experts. Get away from the storm, go somewhere safe, um and be smart and look forward and talk to every one Thursday. Alright, Pete Priscots, don't even sell you our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Be safe. We'll see you next week. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network one