Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 20

on a Monday afternoon. Tony Vaselli at some point he's getting ready for Monday Night Football on Westwood One tonight. No telling when he'll join us from lambeau Field, but he is scheduled to be on the program to night. Bronco's over the Jaguars. Of course, in week to we'll review the game overall, felt a little better, but we're not into moral victories here. Social media questions that were plenty of those today, and we'll go around the National

Football League. It's some really good finishes around the NFL that didn't involve the Broncos Jaguars game, but some really good ones. J P shatterck with you, of course, Pete Prisco is along with us to begin the show today, and uh, by the way, is trying to get in somehow because he just somehow the skype came in and he kicked me off of you guys and he was talking to me, so he might be on in a

little bit, but I don't know what happened. Yeah, you know what, this will be the highest rated fifteen minutes we'll have all all two hours. Hey, look, I'm all for it. That more of me is good and that's the way I always say it, no doubt. Let's get into the game, Pete. And you know the offense, well, they were great and the opening drive they go eleven plays eighty three yards and then just couldn't do anything else the rest of the day, no points, only a

hundred six yards after that drive. The arrest of the game, what happened, Well, a couple of things got away from the run. You gotta run. The receivers do not win. The scheme is not good. If you have receivers who can't win and you play the same scheme that they're using, that's a bad combination. What is the scheme? What would you call the scheme? Basic? They line up two by

two or three by one, and they run routes. They don't pick, they don't rub, they don't bunch, they don't do a lot of this stuff you need to do to get guys open. It's a major disappointment. And and I'm gonna put this out there. I don't think DJ Chart was completely into the game yesterday for whatever reason. I look like to me like sometimes he was slow and maybe he's getting frustrated. I don't know. We saw that last year. I think Channault had a bad day.

He doesn't he doesn't separate from anybody, and they're slow. They're slow football team. And the quarterback had his problems as well. And I set out a picture today, a film picture today on him. He threw an Remember when he threw the interception, Luke Farrell was wide open when he turned around why it would have been an easy completion, and he held it and held it, and then Luke Farrell kind of voted out to the outside and he

threw the interception. You got to throw that as soon as he flips his head around, it's a it's a big play. And so the quarterback wasn't good either, and I think he started getting frustrated because guys weren't getting open.

He didn't they didn't adjust well. In the opening series, the Broncos played a lot of man and they hit him up a little bit, and then they kind of started playing more zone and it didn't It didn't seem like they were willing to take the check down, which is a problem, and they were willing to be patient and sit down and zones. I don't like the design of the offense. I just don't. I don't think it.

And people will say, oh, you're being critical. I'm a big believer in a lot of movement and priestnap movement, bunches and get guys over here and and create mismatches and and dictate that particularly, get all guys who can run. And the guys who can run, they're slow. They need to get and he got on the field late. The Johnson kids started getting on the field because of the injury. He needs to play. He needs to play enough enough with the slow guys. Get him on the field. Did

fast guys. That's what everymyre talked about a few weeks ago. They wanted to fast, fast, fast offensive guys at the skill positions outside and it just doesn't seem that way at least early in the season. Let's hear from Trevor Lawrence though after the game. He finished fourteen of thirty three, passing an eighteen yards early touchdown, the two second half interceptions, and a rating of thirty seven point too. But after the game he said, just keep working. Who turnovers gotta

get better at that. Uh, certain made a great catch on the go ball, So that's one of those. It's like, you know, he made a great play. It happens, but the other one was a bad decision by me. But just continually putting these drives together to stay in the game, because you can see where that closed today and just kind of got out of the game towards the end and they ran with it. But I think we're close.

And obviously it's not what anybody wants to see, and it's frustrating and disappointing, but um, we're gonna stay together, and I really feel like we're we're close. You know, we've got good enough players to win these games, so we should keep going to work. I just gotta keep going to work, Pete. I mean, come on, they're they're right there. They're close. According to the quarterback, and I like listening to him talk. He has a way of calming things down around him and has a good handle

on a situation like yesterday. Yeah, when it comes to the postgame press office. But that's not gonna win games. They gotta they gotta be better. I mean getting of offense. This is an offensive era. It's terrible. It's a terrible offense right now, there's all the way to describe it. Say you don't want to be good in the post game lost uh speech category, that's not where you're supposed to achieve. I don't want to hear any of that crap.

We're gonna work harder. We're to be a you know like and what you know, hang in there with those guys. Nobody wants to hear that they've lost seventeen straight games. I mean, Urban Meyer hasn't lost seventeen straight games, and Trevor Lawrence hasn't lost seventeen straight games. But the organization has that's awful. It's terrible. And when you have a quarter I just don't think they're developing the quarterback in the scheme around him. I think it's a disaster. I'll

be honest with you. I think the OFFENSEE and Brady, I mean, Tony, you when you were sitting there yesterday watched the game. The offensive line wasn't that bad. No, they weren't. Wa I watched the offensive tape today and I was expecting really bad stuff from the offensive line, and it wasn't. They were they were, They were not the problem. So the problem was the receivers can't win

well and and they don't. We we're not good enough to drop the ball, like, we're not good enough to overcome opportunities, missed opportunities, you know what I mean, Pete. Sometimes are good enough, good enough. Some things are just good enough, their talents enough where they can you know, they can mess up or have a problem, they just say, no problems, overcome it. Third second, t no big deal, bam bam. First down. I just don't think we're good enough.

You know, we we you know, little things just you know, big third down to you know, a couple of drops on third down. Those are big for us because it extends to drive against this momentum or a young team. So I think that's an issue. And what I'm about to say, I know you're gonna hate. I don't know if it's a disaster. I don't know if I'd go that far, but for what it should be, it is though,

but playing quarterback, it's a disaster. But I s I was thinking back this morning to Justin Herbert last year. Remember how good he was Pete as a rookie, and now they had more town around him. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Ecklers are good back. Their offense line wasn't better though they made the changes they did this year. But you know what they did. They didn't try to protect him from the standpoint. They used his athletic ability and let

him use his athletic ability. I know you don't like the zone read and some of those run plays, but if you go back and watch the l A Chargers last year, they use they let Justin Herbert use his legs. They had a little option here, they ran zone read. They give him the freedom to takeoff and where I think that's important. I think you have to let you know, let's let him go play, let him be like, let him use his athletic ability. That's a part of his gift.

I'm not saying, you know, design offense like Lamar Jackson runs, but I almost think are they are we so worried about getting hurt, Like they're telling don't run, don't do this? You know, why not? Why not stress the defense with his athletic ability and force him account for him? And you know as well as I do, most quarterbacks don't get when they run the ball, they get hurt in

the pocket. But because they're in the pocket a lot more than they are running the ball, I'm saying, I understand that, Pete, but you I I don't know if I'm convinced, but I think I just go back to last year, like let him go. I'm not I'm not

gonna deny that. I think getting him outside and letting him run around and make throws on the on the region, and it loosens you up a little bit, like a zone here, you go, pick up fifty yards, you get dirty a little bit, you come back, you're sitting the next thing because he's not nobody's they're still not getting open. And that's this game. I get that. But here's the other thing that changes. If you start doing that, What does it do? It changes how you play defense? Now

you don't want to play too high safety. To drop the safety down, you have single Hi, maybe getting a board man. You get different looks because you're stressing the defense based on what you're doing with the quarterback as they run threat. And again I'm not saying, by the way, you only have to do it to the four times a game and like all of a sudden they're scared

to death of it. Well, I saw there was actually one play where he where he booted out and if he had on the zone read, if he had get not given it off, he would have had at corner all the way by him. That's right, mind that, I don't mind that. But let's just say they can do that. It's still not going to change the fact that the receivers aren't winning outside, No, but it changes how it defense has to play you. And I think it gets him in a rhythm, and it's it's like like, let

him go, let him play football. But I'm not against that, by the way, I'm not getting him outside the pocket on his own reads. Let him keep it once in a while, let him throw off of that stuff on the move. But he could do it. I just don't. I just think there's there's still how's that, Tony to your point? You know, guys get hurt in the pocket a lot. Well, he almost got hurt in the pocket yesterday, So if you're worried about the injury part of it, I mean, you know, he almost It was very fortunate

in fact, yesterday to not get that knee hurt. Let's go to defense now quickly, as we opened Jaguar's Happy Hour. Today, the Jags defense allowed a few big play three plays of thirty plus yards allowed, and yesterday's game they had six plays of twenty or more. In Week one, they had a couple of deflections down the field, couldn't bring in an interception. Shakill Griffin, couldn't bring that bobbling interception in. It was incomplete. But he said after the game, just

keep the faith on defense. The same message still apply. Um, you gotta stick with it. We gotta continue to believe, have faith. The main thing is, man, we got we can't point no fingers. We gotta make sure we all stick with each other because we still got a long season left. And the main thing I don't want guys to do is start giving up. Now. I gotta be

able to trust you guys on offense. I gotta be trust everybody on the defense, Gotta be a trust everyone special teams that I know you gonna have my back from first quarter to the end of the fourth. I don't need no waiver, I don't need we We might be in, but we never break. And that's that's the main message. You know. I came in after the game. Soon we came in locker room. I went around the

whole locker room. You know what I'm saying, the ones who had the head down, stay in it to you to believe because once it turned around, once it clicks, I need everybody on order. Everybody pete. That means you no wavering. Andrew Winger led the way in tackles yesterday, had a sack as well, one of three sacks for the Jaguars defense. Rashon Jenkins had a pass defense to play after Shaquill Griffin nearly had an interception and a

pass defense. Devon Hamilton had five tackles. Josh Allen had his second sack of the season yesterday to this defense. And in the second half of this game, when you know their lawrence is throwing interceptions and the game could have really got away from him, they did what they could in that moment to keep it a two score game, held them to field goals and gave the Jaguar as a chance and then it turned out the kickoff return. If they get the two point conversion, it would have

been one score game with a few minutes left. At the defense, I think played really hard yesterday. It just didn't really turn out the right way. Tony. What do you think? Well, no, think there's no doubt they played hard. But they're on the field from thirty nine minutes. Now that's a I think that's a combination of not getting off the field, and it's a common as your offense not staying on it. So I'm staying on I'm not playing, So I'm not putting that all in the defense. But

I think the game basically at four yards of offense. Again, um, if you don't, you know, a couple of kneel downs and then we're minus yards. Um, So was it better? Yes, it was better than the Houston game. No, there's no doubt about it. But I also, I mean to be clear, I don't think that Broncos offense is a high explosive, high scoring group. I mean they didn't score many points against the Giants as well and Week one, and so I mean they're a good group. But that strengthen that

team is the defense. The test for our defense will be this coming week with um Kyler Murray coming to town and DeAndre Hopkins and that group, but that this will be a real test coming up. They made JP they played better, They played better, they played better, they made Courtland Sutton looked like a superstar. Oh my gosh. I mean, come on, and and Teddy Bridge ordered through for that's not what That's not what I want to do. I just I don't know. The defense was better, but

it's nowhere near being good. Nowhere near it. I mean again, when you come when you come to the line of script, I thought that, you know, the run defense again, but you look at Williams. Williams average four point nine for rush. It was like they stopped that either. No, they're they're just there was a little bit more pressure the secondary. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't great. I don't know, I do. It's just it's not good enough. And I look, I think Shakie Griffin's smart when he says, you know, I

don't want anybody quitting because you're two games in. If you're quitting now, you've got a problem. Well, I was, I'm surprised. Are you getting that don't quit conversation? It's certaily in the game this early in the year. You know what I mean? He usually don't hear no. Okay too, I agree, I agree, well, I agree with I mean, why would you quit you? I mean, come on, it's two weeks in. That's ridiculous. And I just and the whole stick of we're gonna work harder and let's go

with a game. Nobody wants to hear. People don't want to hear that you're supposed to be working hard every single week, win or lose. We're gonna work harder, We're gonna work to overcome this. Well, what are you to go to? What else are you gonna do? Not work? I just hate the stick. I don't like it. Would want What do you want him to say? Not him? What do you want urban to say? What do you want Iran to say that? I'm saying, we got our ask kick. We're gonna go try and get better. We

hope to be better next week. We're not where we need to be. We thought we would be better at this time. Maybe we'll open it up and have a quarterback competition. That notes let's come back and just to move but plutty ahead of the show today, speaking up the quarterback, we'll get into his day at the office here at t I A. Bake Field. Yesterday's season tickets, single game tickets and group tickets still available. Being part of the new era of Jaguar's foot ball and own it.

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of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think that's something that's a consensus that at once, you know, through one enter to Laviska actually through a heck of a ball, but should have checked it down and and then sometimes it checks it down when the guys are covered. So it's just working through. It's young quarterback stuff and he's, uh, he'll improve, Just coach him through it. Just you know, the one

thing about Trevor Lawrences. Now he's a smooth you know, nothing really phases on that bad so far, and we've got to make sure it doesn't because that's a learning process for a young quarterback. You see it all over the NFL every year. You see that. So he's just gonna work through it. That's head coach Urban Meyer earlier today on the Monday Recap Press Conference and welcome back. It's Jaguar is happy hour in a Monday afternoon j P.

Shadrick Pete Frisco is down in South Florida. Tony Vasselli is at lambeau Field Green Bay for Monday night football preview. What are you a fill in or are you supposed to do this game? No? I mean I've known for a couple months. Oh, I didn't know you were doing this game? Um? What are you doing it with? Kevin Harlan, the Great Kevin Harlan. Kevin's awesome with a classics. That's a good team. I like it, toss Elly, Yeah, So, Um, Kurt usually does Monday nights. I do Thursday nights. He

has some conflict, so I'm filling in. Kevin is the one that if there's a streaker on the field. He calls the live play by play of the streaker running down the field. He does, that is what he does. He also calls the Packers games in the preseason, so he's familiar with that team. Pete, they looked. Did you watch the tape of them? They were awful. They were so bad. And that team and that Saints team got there but beat yesterday. I didn't realize the time we

was getting ready for the game. This week they're starting a rookie center and right guard. Yeah, Newman and Myers both the defensive tackle and the defense. The nose tackle. The rookie nose tackle on the Lions. McNeil is very good. Yeah, he's a good player. So we'll get little talk about money and football later. Yeah, a little bit later. That's all good. Hey, you're at Lambeau and you got a nice view of the proceedings there tonight. We just heard

from Urban discussing Trevor Lawrence. There. Let's get into this a little deeper, Pete. A couple of picks yesterday in the game, he scrambled a couple of times on the On the fourth down play, you picked up a first down on a scramble, finished with a hundred eighteen yard and touchdown, two picks at thirty seven point to rating and for the year now four touchdowns, five interceptions. But as Urban said, Pete nothing phases him. He responds, at least with in the in the in the film room.

It sounds like he's gotta have a little better performance when it comes down to it on the field. And part of that, as you said earlier, is probably how the offense has not been totally balanced yet. They've gotten away from the run a little bit early in the season. If they have some of that and if the field goals are made, it's a different game in the second half, obviously, to a different, different fuel of the game and maybe a different approach offensively. Yeah, but but again I'm gonna

go back to the wide receivers. They don't win. They just don't win. And until they win, he's not gonna look comfortable. And and and so I think he holds There are times when he could check it down and he doesn't check it down, and he should check it down. I think Urban's right about that. But Tony, the play where he threw the interception, the one, the one when he was trying to throw the Ferrell Luke Arrol's wide open. As he said, he was late. He didn't see him.

He didn't and then by the time he saw him, Luke Farrell turning out because he saw the safety coming over, so he turned out his safety. If you go back and I wanted today on the twenty two, the safety is about takes about three steps to the other side of the field. He just leads in it. That's a ricky move. He's just late. But I'll go back. I mean Urban kind of referred to it. Third down, just

bullet He's hit uh in between three defenders. He had no business throwing it, but he has such a big arm and the business should not right in the hands. And don't you look places you have to make. That's a twenty yard catch. It's moved the chains and it was I don't care if it was the wrong decision. It wasn't the wrong decision for him because he can get away with it like my homes. Homes can get away with the wrong decision too. You gotta make those catches.

And then another third time, I'm not picking on the visits. The slant hits him in the hands. That's a ten fifteen yard play. Moved the chains, I mean, and so that one was a little, that one was a little. It hit him in his hand. He's got to catch it though. You're right, it's a professional receiver, but like we're playing, it's not Pop Warner like, look a little Johnny caught the ball. Look look little Johnny had a

thirty yard catch. Whippy. Oh wait, they don't have any I mean Tony the one play and I thought maybe watching the tape today, he looked like he was having problems with the rain when they did rain and that little sequence where it rains. His past is sound you on that corner at post corner and he missed them big time. They came back to it, ran the exact same play later in the game and he tried to go there again and it wasn't open. I mean, he's uh,

he's a worky quarterback. I still think he's gotta let him go. I'd say, listen, go play football. Run it when you need to run it, pass what you need to pass it, like play football. Well you know they want to Urban wants to run more spread offense. You know that. Yeah, well why did you why did you

hire bebble mm? They have that's Urban. That but like, if you look at that, their philosophies don't mesh if I'm convinced if you look at the a lot of the success of young quarterbacks in the NFL the days because the systems that they that were installed are so similar to the systems that they're running in college with a lot of the same concepts at least. And if you go watch Trevor Lawrence at Clemson, I mean he

is He's a dynamic athletic. Yeah, he can play for the pocket, but he moves around, he buys time, he runs the ball. Some of his bigger plays used his legs. I just I know everyone's so scared of death of getting hurt, but you gotta go play. But okay, wouldn't he be great in the Niner system? Yeah? Right, yeah,

I would think. I mean, I mean that just I just think there's systems And maybe I'm being nipiggy, but I just it's like Mike McCarthy back when he was with the with the Packers now that he did it, I was told because Rogers liked it that way, where two guys or one guy on one side to on the other and he cant help identify. He felt that was a way where he could read it better. But Trevor Lawrence isn't that guy. He's got to have guys get freed up with motions and boots and creativity. I

don't see it. I don't see it. You're you're agree with me too, you just don't want to say it. I can see it in your face. What do you think? Do you think they should do more bunch and movement and pre snap movement and all that and picks and everything. Yeah, I think, I mean matchup favorable, matchup as you can. I think the bigger thing is I just i'd let him. I don't know why we're not using as athletic ability. Why not run a couple of zone reads? Why not

roll the pocket more? Why not give him? They did roll a little bit more. I mean they did this week. He moved the pocket a little bit more. But he is I mean, I just remember watching him at Clemson. He's so dang athletic and you see him get aufter. He covers ground like it covers five yards and like a step um. So it's I mean, I think it's it's never one thing, Pete. I mean, as we always

talked about, it's not just the play calling. It's not just traverse, not just to receive, but it's all the above, um, and they're just not they're not executing there there they get out of the right when you think they have a rhythm. They kind of shoot themselves in the foot for the mistake where apparently and you know so pretty much, you know what we're describing as an inexperienced young team

led by workie quarterback. But but like in some games, you sit there and say, okay, it was the offensive line and yesterday you thought it might be the offensive line when you went into that game with Job and Killer and it wasn't. It was not, So what is it? Is it the quarterback? Why he never got comfortable? But why didn't he get comfortable? And I think part of that has to do with the fact that the receivers don't win and they're not getting schemed open to win

when you go back into pocket and you don't. I mean, there are how many times Tony have you when you watched the take? Do you stop it when you fact foot hits the ground? And if you see anybody winning, who's winning? They're not winning? Yeah, No, that's fair. Tyra Johnson needs to get on the field. Well, he went out there and he jumped offsides. I don't care. He probably gotta let him work with the first team. Get some speed on the field. False start is not a

good way to get it going. Let's come back in a moment, a little more defensive talk when we return, also a little later more on Monday Night Football. Tony has got to call on Westwood One tonight and the second hour we'll get to your social media questions and special teams. Talk all that ahead and check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network a free subscription an Apple, iTunes, Spotify,

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the game. You know that was perfect. Situation was great and has build off of it, has continue to build off that, continue to get this defense together. You know. Uh, he's got to start getting turn over continue helped off his out. That is Shack Griffin, Jaguar's cornerback, gave a free agency this year, talking about the defensive performance in yesterday's game and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy our j P Shaderick, Pete Frisco and Tony was Sally Tony is.

It was not with us right now. It was hold on the over under on pregame. Worse. Tony is two and a half and I'm taking the overpeat. It's amazing. He's like shoving chips in his mouth while we're sitting here. We can hear him. I didn't know. We came back on the air, You're going, what do you what? Are you eating their cheeze kurds? No, no, no, it's my favorite potato chip. What do you think my favorite potato chips? Are you never You'll never guess the ones that are

closest to you. Besides the closest ones to me, it's potato chips. I love friedo corn chips, my favorite tra I can't I can't stop eating them any any time a stadium has them, I just go to town and packers have a bunch of fritos. They're so they're so tough when the gut going. The person sitting on the plane next to you know, more so we just heard from look at him, look at he's like, it's amazing. Drinks, Like, what are we doing over here? This is broadcast tonight.

I'll tell you I like it. Glorious. Let's let's get a little more into this defense shot Griffin And they're talking about Culin calling the game yesterday, and they did get three sacks. They got three sacks on Teddy Bridgewater. He's not quite as mobile as the previous week. It's certainly not this week ahead with Kyler Murray. But what do you think of the game that Colin called yesterday, Pete, I mean it was okay. I don't mind aggressiveness at times. I mean the player was no better than me if

it was a good plan or not. But they have to be aggressive in their past rush because they don't have guys who win consistently. And it's not unlike the other side of the ball. If you don't have guys who win consistently, do a better job scheming those guys up. And I think Joe Cohen's got to do a better job. He's and he's has to do a job of trying

to scheme pass rushers on. If you're like Denver and you could just line up von Miller and Bradley Chub when they're both healthy and go rush, then you don't have to scheme a lot of stuff. But they do because they don't have those guys. Well, I mean, I mean, Alan was okay, Yes, I thought Alan did a pretty good job yesterday. Yeah, he said. I mean that, whether it's scheme, whether it's players, whether you know, I meaning towards you, uh, Pete, it's more about the Jimmy's and

Joe's and the x's and os. The bottom line, you gotta go make plays. You gotta you have to disrupt the other team, whether it's disrupt them from the defensive side of the ball, disrupted the opposing offense or offense, disrupt the defense with big blaze and chunk yardage and get them on their heels and get them you know,

you dictating pace. We don't dictate pace on either side of the ball, and that is is critical and that was what you know, you look at that first opening drive there, what they did dictate the pace they were on that good moment and that good a good Caden's out there, that good tempo they're getting up, good mix of running pass, you know, play action and move a pocket a little bit. It. I mean they had you know, they've gotten a rhythm and we just haven't seen that

enough out of this Jaguars team on either side. And I know you you were in the booth thinking, Okay, the first game was an aberration. This drive is what they're really gonna be. Pete. I've been I've been involved in too many football games where the first drive goes a certain way and you're convincing that you're convinced that everything's fixed, and you're like, they made an adjustment. You mean,

they line up the same way every time. It looked at me on the tape that they played more man early in the game and then kind of adjusted back and played more zone as they went on, and it's bothered them. Well, I think man is always easier for a young quarterback to the sect right because it's one on one and you can go throw to the you know, either the open man or throw a guy open who's

on the move. Zone is more difficult because Now you have guys playing in this in space and they're in they're in areas, and so you have to understand based on Okay, what zone coverage are they end the two? Is the quarters? Is it you know? Quarter half? Is it? You know? Cover three? What are they playing? Because that will dictate kind of where those zone drops are and where the holes are, uh in each zone. It just takes more time for you and quite to understand there.

They're all looking at the quarterback, they're all looking back at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, but there's not a lot of stuff in the middle of the field either. In that offense, if you really look at it, there's a lot of plays run outside the numbers. I mean, I'm like sensing a theme that you're not you Daryl Bebble's hall. I don't like this ske whether maybe it's is it his or is it their's or what is

it is a combination of all of them. But I just don't get what what what would you describe their scheme as bland? How would you do? How would you describe it? It's not exciting, it's not tempo, it's not fast, it's not doesn't dictate anything. How would you describe it. I mean, I think it's more of a vertical passing game. That's the sense I get. I haven't sensed a lot of crossers, a lot underneath, a lot of level routes where you're trying to get guys across the field. Maybe.

I mean, I don't go back and watch again. I'll tell you what it is. I'll put it in terms you'll relate to. The Chiefs are like Freedo's there's a pizzas to the taste to it, and the Jaguars offense is like somebody's homemade potatoes without salt on them, Tata chips, there's nothing. They don't taste like anything. I like them. I like them. Yeah, but you don't like it as much as those FreeDOS quit lot. Yeah, yeah, there's it's interesting. Yeah. I mean, to your point, there's not a lot of

pre snap movement. It's outside the outside the numbers. You go here, you go here, you go here, and there's nothing thing in the middle. I think the middle of the field is aside from a slantter two is basically off limits. About off limits, but we're not. But there must be a force field in there or something. If somebody. How much of that is How much does that mean? Is that being dictated by the fact that they have

no tight end. They they don't have a past threat tight end, especially banged up for a little bit now high ankle, so he's out for a number of weeks. It sounds like, well, then Farrell, okay, Farrell dropped the ball, but he was like again, he ran his route, he was wide open. He flipped his head around on the one play. And then they don't use him in the middle anymore. In the middle, let him start catching the ball. I'll be honest with you, Man, Hurts has been a

disappointment as a blocker. I thought he'd be significantly better than what he is. Yeah, And to be honest with you, he might not even be. He hasn't blocked as well as the other guy was blocking before he got hurt. So I don't know. I just there's gotta be a way to get people in the middle of the field. And whether he comes to a bunch and pick and rob and sit down in the middle. And I love

when you started designing place, but get creative. I could see sometimes Tony in a game where the offensive line is getting whipped you're scared, so you gotta maybe keep guys in and chip and help and everything else. But they were, they weren't getting whipped yesterday. I thought, I actually thought that aside from a few run plays, because Cam Robinson dips his head in the run place sometimes

he did it yesterday. But I thought, aside from a few plays here and there in the past, protection they were okay. Yeah, I thought I was solid. I still, I mean, what were Jason Robin's number James yesterday eleven carries forty seven yards of four point three average along of twelve. I still just don't think. I don't either. I don't either. Now that probably there only on the field for twenty one minute, so I'm sure you know. I'm sure. Tery Bebo saying was like, yeah, I agree.

We need more plays, we need to work more third downs, we need to catch the ball, we need to move the chain. So I get that they run a screen, yet, um I do not. I think they ran one yesterday. I don't remember one in Week one either. Yeah, slipping the tight end, sneaking the tight end out on the on the leak play once in a while, roll them left and bring the tight end back around the other. I mean again, I'm just trying to get creative here,

trying to help him out. You know what, are running it over two over here, two over yere, one over here, two over here, and we'll just run little out routes and you run a post corner and we'll hope you get open in that eight yards of the field. And you're working on the other side over there, you are. You are not a happy camper. I I think you're wasting. I think they're wasting the quarterback. I'm gonna be honest about it. Okay, I think what they're doing, they're wasting

the quarterback. When you say they shot and higher, all all all the above. Put something in that's gonna use him as to be able to do what he can do. And you you mentioned it. I don't like the running quarterback, but get him running and moving on the run outside the pocket. Create things for him. But get gets it's just not creative. Can you do that now in the middle of the season though, Yeah, I mean, Tony, how hard is to put in new plays during the week

zone rin everyone's doing the same thing. Okay, yeah, okay, So you don't have a pass place you can put something where that. Yeah, your protections in so you're gonna have your it will be there five, six or seven man protection and put the route route combination together you know, works in the middle of the field. Again, if the offensive line was in disaster yesterday, which I thought it might be, it wasn't, then I could say, Okay, you could blame the offensive line. You can't do some things.

But they weren't, and that's where the problem is. All right, let's come back in a moment. We'll get into Monday Night football. When we returned the Lions and the Packers. Tony has the call. I don't know and there's no word from the booth yet if he's gone over the two and a half brought pregame number. We'll get an update on that when we come back. This is Jaguars

Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back as Jaguars Happy Our final moments of the opening hour, second hour coming up at the top of the hour, of course, and we will get to your social media questions. We'll go around the National Football League as well. Busy schedule this week at Daily's Place, Santana Tomorrow night three eleven. On Wednesday night Counting Crows Thursday, Coheed and Cambria Friday. Tickets available at Daily's Place dot com. Tony, can I

get the couch for Santana or three eleven? Please? If I had a couch, I give it. I give it to you. JP. I mean, you keep saying you don't, but every time I see a photo of Pete, of him at Daily's Place, he's he's at the couch. What is the couch? Is that like somebody like a like a sky box and a football game or the like, just like right around the soundboard. They're beautiful, they're right there. There's no real impeded view at all. Right by the soundboard.

Sounds perfect, easy in and out, access, weight service, all that. Yeah, it's very nice. JP. You're j P. Shadrick. You should be able to hook up yourself up with something. But I'm not, Tony Basely. I know that. You know Basilli gets that that couch whenever he goes, and he won't share. There's no there's no doubt, Alp mount Tony. I always help him out. We're working on it, JP. Has he ever hooked you up with the couch? I don't think we've ever been to a concert. Together, have we, Tony, No,

I don't think so. I've never been invited. Well I haven't either, So you know it's a two way street, Pete. I mean, if you ever came up here any more, you could go. By the way, there is a giant eye at the end of the silly it's not I love it. By the way. You know we were talking about, um, you know, the pocket passing and letting Lawrence run a

little bit. I got a tweet earlier from at Keto Jaguar and I know it's not social media time, but it was gonna go live here, said the Jaguars impeted David care the same way they wouldn't let him use his athletic ability David and Priscoe CBS was one of the talking heads insisting on him being a pocket passer.

Is that true? Read it again? Yeah, the Jaguars and Peter David Garrard's career in the same way they wouldn't let him use his athletic ability and career in Pristo talking, how was it around you impeted David Grard's guards career. I guess so. Uh and uh no, Look I get what Tony saying, but the game is meant to be played in the pocket. It always will be, it always has been. But you can get creative to get guys outside of it when you need to. Because you you

watched Russell Wilson played quarterback. Yeah, he's not in the operating from the pocket all the time, but ideally that's what he's supposed to be doing. Okay, but you mix it up, Aaron Rodgers, you watch him play quarterback? You

patrick ball? No, I get it, Tony. I don't mind guys moving to throw, but designing runs and and moving and not allowing a play to develop is not the way you played quarterback, like, for example, saying that, but having a couple of his own reads a game to stress the defense, to make him, make him account for you. It changes how they play until he gets blasted when when he holds the ball. I mean, I'm okay, gett him outside the pocket to throw. I don't mind that.

And once in a while, there was a play yesterday where he could have kept the ball and he would have had about a fifteen yard game, So okay, once in a while, I get it. But again, this is a guy who should be built around throwing it and getting creative with his arm as much as anything. All guys, we'll coming up later. We'll pick the Monday night football game, Tony, if you want to give us an early look at it. To me, you can't pick. You can't pick the game. Yeah,

you're calling the game. You can't pick. That's right. Yeah, it's rules. It's not yea. Yeah, it's very important. No, it's not because guys have done that in the past, and I'm like, you can pick the damn game. It's in my contract. That's well, I'll say this. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers got blasted by the Saints last week at t I A. Bank Field. They're terrible. Yeah, it didn't look so good. It was. It was all energy either, like and piano. Did you watch any of the Detroit

San Francisco games? Yeah, Like, I don't know about you. Maybe I watched first the Packers game and it's like, I mean, no energy, Like what are you doing it? Like they didn't want to be there. You turn that lions stay and they're flying around. They're not very good, but right around right. That was interesting. The Packers game last week looked like a team that thought it was just gonna go on the field and win the game. But just show up and we went. They were bad.

It was big. Maybe they thought it was the fourth preseason game and they weren't quite ready. I mean they weren't. They didn't look ready, and not just not just I didn't think the receivers won. I thought, and that wasn't a good secondary they were playing because they were digged up in the secondary. The um Saints. But Tony Rogers didn't play well. He held the ball is terrible. Ain't run it, didn't catch it, didn't throw it well. Aaron Jones had five carries. Yea, that's a page out of

Darrel Bevil's book Bad Play. A lot of Lions coaches with Jaguars ties, Tony and of course Brune. There's quarterbacks coach Todd Washs is care now you got the quarterback? You got the quarterback coach? Yeah? Mr Burnell is gonna be on the sidelines coaching up. Jared Goff, watch out, I'm picking the Lions. You already here, upset? Well, I thought you couldn't quit a minute. What are you doing? If I get a Lion is to win the game out right? When the game outright? Shock of the world.

The Packers are in trouble since the three corners that will be covering out there will be a third year guy in two rookies and one and undrafted rookie. Okay, Tony, I don't think so. You know, Noah Kuda, you know he's not playing in this game. No, no, no Couda. Is that with killing is not good? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's the third their third rounder. I gotta find that the flips on his name? Right? Yeah, the kid from Melifon Would How you say Melifon Will? That's his last name?

I said, trying to stay the other guys say the other corner's name? That one I never get right. No, there's probably a pronunciation. Guy right there told me if you'd like to look at I don't know. I have no flip card nothing here right now. It's uh, it's still early. But but their corners will be suspect in this game, and that's a problem against Rogers. Let's be honest about it. You're picking the line is to win, Yeah, just picking. You're just picking your buddy, Brunell, that's all

you're doing. Shocked the world. Hey, what was the other JP? What were the other Jaguary ties before you were talking about. Wash is the defensive frame. Com Dom Caper's is a senior defensive assistant. That's right there. Old Texans teammate Aaron Glenn is the defense corner. Yeah. I think I think Dan Campbell is going to do a good job there. I really do. He's got a lot of work in front of him. They give him time, but he's gonna do a good job there. Alright, guys, Wait, we didn't

talk about the kicker, and we'll come back. We got plenty of show for that. That'll be the Woodbridge by Robert Mundab Keeping It Real segment coming up in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll also get to your social media questions, and yes, there are some about the kicker. We'll get some answers for that when we return as well. We heard Rebert Meyer discussed Josh Lambeau today.

One hour down, one hour ago. We are a halfway home on a Monday afternoon after a week two the Jaguars lost to the Broncos, and this is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. There's a there's a lot of fighting this team there, This team is gonna. There's fifteen games left, and Michael, our goal is to have the strongest locker room that you can possibly have. I feel like it's extremely strong right now. Uh. Players are pissed, players want to win,

players are sticking it together, and that's gonna. That's the best part of our team. The best part of our organization right now is wat's in that locker room. That is head coach turpan Meyer. After the game yesterday here at t i A Bank Field and welcome in. It's our two of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after the Week two loss to the Broncos. J P. Shadrick with you, Pete Frisco down in South Florida. Tony Vasselli is at Limbo Field in Green Bay for Monday

night football. Will get a little more to that game coming up in a bit. The team final Broncos with a win there now too, and oh the Jaguars are owing two. Jags had an opening drive touchdown eleven plays eighty three yards and a twenty five yard touchdown pass from Lawrence to Arvin Jones Jr. The Jaguars defense was on the field for nearly thirty nine minutes in the game. The offense shut down after that opening drive and couldn't get much of anything else, and in fact, got nothing

else done. They scored no more points the rest of the day. The Jags did have a one hundred two yard kickoffer turned touchdown in the fourth quarter, they failed on the two point try and could not make it a one score game with only a few minutes to go, and the Broncos killed the clock, and that was all. She wrote. The especial teams issues, of course, we'll get

to that coming up. The two miss field goals for Josh Lambo, those wounded large and the way the game was played early in the second half, and now the losing skid guys seventeen games. By the way, the league record is twenty six since the merger the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in seventy six and seventy seven. The old time record is twenty nine by the Chicago Cardinals in the World War Two era that included the combined Steelers Cardinals roster and forty four due to players in military service.

So we're not gonna really count that one. The one that counts, and let's just let's cut this thing off. They said, they're gonna break that rocket. I'm gonna do that. That's what Irban Meyer said today. Guys, So break the losing skit. That's priority number one. I'm gonna make a lock. Oh god, this should be good. Do it. I will walk right now for all Jaguar fans. Will not break the all time losing the streak. We don't win. It's so good. You're echoing. I hear it twice. Yeah, why

are we echoing right now? I don't know. It's a good one either way. It's what. It's seventeen now, it's go through the games, all right, let's do it. I'll take he said they won't break the streak. I mean the games, you know, because you said in an earlier show that you know they were gonna win a bunch of games this year. So Cardinals this week at home. No at Cincinnati Thursday night, maybe, but probably no home against the Titans. But wait, that takes us the eighteen

nineteen Titans at home. No London at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium against the Dolphins. No bye week at Seattle, No home against the Bills, No at the Colts, No home against the Niners. Now right home against the Falcons. Baby, that's the one. But would that take him to the record would tie the Falcons game if they lost that and all the other ones would tie the record of at the Rams after that? And when did the Texans come to town way later? Right? Yeah, they're they're there

December nineteen, So they better beat the Falcons. They're gonna have the longest they will win a game. They will not be oh and six, you're gonna win one of these first in the first stretch here, I mean, you know you can only get better, right, I mean, they're gonna they're gonna win one of the next four. Okay, so they're not they beating the Cardinals this week. I'm not picking I'm not picking him the days that Okay, Cincinnati, they have a chance. I don't think it. But there's

there's why. So you said one of the next six. Is that what you said? The next four stretch? And what's the one after that? One? At home? They can win out and nobody, nobody comes into London and gets the Jags. So the Dolphins are going down and they give me the Dolphins. They will win one of those three games. Cincinnati, Titans, Dolphins hashtag oh and seventeen is a possibility. I think to win a couple of games too. I just don't know where they're gonna happen. I just

locked it. It's impossible to happen. Now, what if it? What if it did happen? I don't want to think about it. Gives me a headache. I don't wish one in fifteen on my worst enemy after going through that last year. Well, you know what, you don't have to be weird about it is it will be the longest creak without going over. Why are we talking about? This is not gonna happen. There's no chance. Oh there's a chance, until there's not a chance. But I locked it. I

locked it. There's no chance. Why is it You've done so well with your other locks over the years. I mean in uh in seven before of the season or eleven and six before the season. Yeah, I did not That was a bit. What was your what was your real? Kay? Five wins? Mine was five? Right? I'd like to amend mom Me go ahead and mend it. Mend it to your glass is half empty like Faith's early. It's week three. I will lock for anyone who wants a lock, Bet lock, bet the win Ward two. That's a lock. That's the

easiest spin ever made. And I've never heard other than the fact, other than the fact that you can't pick the games that they're gonna win. I can since it has a dog fight. I told you I thought so too. Mami's a dog fight. Colts never know culture not that good, not that good, being bad or two different things. Falcons go on, the Falcons and the fourth quarter with the have a bay. Yesterday, all of a sudden there was a ball game New York Jets. Come on at the Jets. There,

there's there's one they can get. There's a third. Colts at home. Come on. They've never come in here and win the don't win two games? Maybe that's like five or we just pointed out right there. I mean, come on, you're crazy, is there? That's what this way is? There an upset on the horizon. But they liked it here first upset special. Then go to Seattle and oh my goodness, wow, you want to lock that one to Tony Well the Titans beating him yesterday. I want to lock it every

lock it always lock in it. Oh my gosh, he locked beating the Seahawks in Seattle. I can't lock that. It's already been locked. You can't unlock a lock. Hey, you would have to admit that they have a better chance to go over than they do to win five. Now, oh yes, oh yeah, Pete, I think you want them to go over it. Well, they get a better draft pick, but no, then they can get Caleb on Thipodeaux from from Oregon pass Rusher. He's hurt right now, isn't he. Yeah,

we're not talking about the draft yet. No, No, it's week three. What are you doing, Pete? Trying to find really got him to go there? We're not doing that today. Okay, can we let's address this? Okay, the offensive line wasn't bad yesterday. But so you the Kansas City has five entirely new guys, right, Schwartz gone to all five new guys, five new starters, three of them are three of them were first year starters. Okay, So I didn't a part of the Jaguars think about flipping some of those guys out.

I mean, and nothing becaust any of the guys, but I would it was the same group. It's this, it's the exact same cop eight guys as last year, not just the start five starters. It's the exact same guys, and it's the same starters, and it is the same six and eight guys, maybe seven of eight guys um from two thousand nineteen. Correct, by the way, there was today Walker Little is one of the new guys, and he was drafted this year. He was placed on the

reserve COVID nineteen. It's just a little while ago to there. That's good of the rails, question of the Hall of Fame. By the end of the year, everybody had him in there and training camp. I had a little conversation with every buddy, Mark Long about that. I might have taken a couple of shots at him in the press box. Mark could take it, though he could give it. At the rate they were going, I thought Warker Little would get it before but silly you might know, Wow, wouldn't

that be something? So I mean, but the line didn't play that poorly yesterday. Overall, I think we took that earlier. It did not. It did not, And I thought when Can went out, I thought Barts did an okay job too. When he was in there. Yeah, it's not great, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't a disaster. And what I'm saying, Tony, I agree that I watched temud when you watched it. When you watch the tape, though, you tell me gam Robinson ducks his head on run play sometimes bad whiffs.

Uh I didn't see Yeah, yeah he did. Yeah, because I watched the tape today he dug his head. All right, I'll watch it. I'll report back next week. You know, the progress were actually doing something weird where they kind of let those wide nine rushers come in. It's a little late or something, look like, didn't it What are they doing? Oh the slow rush off the edge. Yeah, yeah, and then probably get tired of getting hit by that tight end. They let him clear and then go Did

you think von Miller was the same von Miller? No, it's still good, but not the same. Not not the same. And Chom got hurt again. Get up in age. That's what the year eleven for von? Is that right? Yeah? And that was the first game that they were scheduled to play what for like three years or something. That was h Yeah, but I don't think they have pointed since eighteen. And yeah, that's a while ago, by the way.

Some injury updates from head coach Urban Meyer today James O'Shaughnessy, the tight end will be out in multiple weeks with a high ankle issue. Leviska chen Alt, Urban said should play this week. Had a shoulder issue, and he'll he'll see some playing time at least that's what the head coach thinks. C J. Henderson a mild groin injury. They'll wait and see with him, and then a j Can

with instring injury should play. According to head coach Urban Meyer, Tony, the c J. Henderson one worries me because this is, you know, a week for a year two and he had Nickson. You know, you have a bunch of necks last year couldn't stay on the field. And I think that was a little bit of the book on Florida two. Wasn't it just you know, availability health like playing through some And I'm not saying to Nick or a bruise righting like that. I don't only he knows, but I

could have to be a little concerned. Well, isn't it weird how some guys always end up being nicked and injured in whatever? I mean, Like, okay, this let's just go through the quarterback injuries. Yesterday in the NFL, Carson Wentz has a history of being injured. He got injured again. Both somehow by the way to as a history of being injured. He got injured again. Different injury here his rib Taylor Tyrod Taylor has a history of being injured. He got injured again. Dalvin Cook got dinged. He has

a history of being injured. I know, but it's just weird how some guys, some guys have injury issues because somebody's gonna fall asleep on us on this on the camera today. I have a feeling I can see you talking his stomach. He's tired now. JP. During the break we figured out remember I Tony said he wanted to go and keyto. He said, I need to lose somebody. You go to dr H P B, D B SL whatever did And I asked him, I said how many calories were you eating on that diet a day? And

he said six hundred a day? And I said, you had six hundred those two bags of Fredos. Look, he said, that's that's that's my advertiser before the broad worst. Yeah, the over under still set it two vegas is not moving yet. Yeah, I I guarantee you I will not have more than two broad Warst. I'm taking the over. Let's come back in a moment. We'll get into special teams. Josh Lambeau ms a couple of field goals. Jaguars had a kickoff return touchdown as well. That's all coming up.

It's keeping it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundab right after this Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Networks to Josh today in seventeen eighteen nineteen, you go back, and I know that was recent history, but he's one of the best in the NFL. And the thing I told him is that since I got here in February, since our staff got here, he's a hard working guys any other any guy the team. So I have confidence

he's going to work through this. You know. I know when the GM and personnel Department's job is to see what's out there and all that. I just I'm convinced this guy can come through it. I just I see the way he works, I see the way he hits it. And I've stuck with Kickers before and it's it's been great dividends. So as of now we're gonna stick with him. I said go gerban Meyer today discussing the status of

Josh Lambo, Jaguar's kicker, and welcome back to Jaguars. Happy our time now for keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. Topic today is special teams and Lambo missed a couple of field goals yesterday, one from fifty two, another from forty eight, and he is now over three for the season in field goals.

Two of those are from fifty or longer. How concerned are you with this kicking situation, Pete to day, I would bring in a new kicker, I bring in There's a million of them out there, and we've seen this playout before in history where a guy team and he's good for a while and then it goes bad. Or the flip side is and the let a guy go like Jason Meyer become a pretty good kicker. They let him go in and kicking Jackson mat was let go

by the box. Now he's become a good kicker. The rams, you could find kickers and when they go bad, it really goes bad. So that's Tony. Why don't you ask the folks in the booth Okay, Tony's out for a moment, but we'll get Tony back when things calmed down in Green Bay. Yeah, it's not ideal because if he makes both field goals yesterday, Pete, obviously, then it's a different feeling game earlier in that third quarter, and you know, you play it differently as an offense at that point.

Maybe you don't have to push it down the field, and you know Trevor's not having to throw those deep balls later in the game. Yeah. And and the other thing is too is is um even this is a guy who when was the last time he was really a good kicker? Nineteen? Right, it's a bit a while. Yeah, But so two things. One, you only replace them if there's someone better out there. So young kickers out there that end up being good Tony Pete, we saw it last year. We went through five and none of them

could do it. Six We went through six. Six. But I'll say this, give about me or Pete being concerned. If you're Josh Lamboll, you're being concerned. Because as soon as the coach says, whenever a coach in the history of the NFL says I have confidence in my kicker, I'm going with him. That means the change is coming. You don't want to be talked about in that manner if you is there a kicker on that practice squad right now? Not currently? No, there's not. There should there

should be, there's not, there's not. Well, there should be in case of what happens if they tested positive for COVID sign one, sign one, it's different than last year because of the vaccinated pete. They can come right in last year. But still but still you'd like you should have one on the I would have one, Like every year, I bring two to camp and keep one on my

team and one on the practice squad. So every year, even when there's only that, it's just that's it's justin Tucker, even when there's only seven talking about now, that's not every year, that's everything's COVID every year that COVID has been around, correct, I bring no. I bring it too every year though, and he with the Saints now. But there's a college the college kid. There's a million college

kickers out there. They're in college and not allowed to bring him in when they come in when they come out to know, don't you don't think there's any way, shape or form, that Lambeau has gone bad, they get out from underneath them. No, sure, I think there is. I'm just saying the bigger concern is when the head coach is talking about you at a press conference and having to reiterate that he has confidence and that you are quote his guy. That's when you're not one more

mess and he isn't his gun. Let's let's be real point. That's my point. Go miss a couple this week. It'll be over all I say, is I remember during training camp when we were out there watching practice that Urban is literally right off the holder's hip during field goals and stands there right at the snap, and and he's right there in the middle of the field goal snap. Who is their special teams coach last year? Last year was Joe Camillis is one of the best. He's one

of the best special teams coaches in the league? Is he not? Yeah? Exactly why the hell did he keep them? Ye? Urban that he's at the Rams now with Sean McVeigh, right, I get it. But I'm saying Joe d would have been it would have been wise move. I know Joe, Joe liked living in Jacksonville. Would have been smart to keep him. He didn't Well, I don't want to tell you, but I don't know. I just think I think they're special teams. You're saying, you're you're saying Lambo has been

bad because Joe d left. Now that's not what I'm saying, but that the special team. Okay, they had a return, I get it, that was the partner has been great putters, great theory. He has been great hunter and two yard returned for a touchdown yesterday. It's a nice return. What have they not been doing good on special teams besides the Lamebo making kicks? Well, that's one of them. Okay,

I don't think that's coach created. I don't think like less Joe was the Lambeau whisperer special team's coach in the NFL. Joe Di Cammillis and Nick Sarrenson. Listen, I'm going with my guy. I'm going with the Jacks. Nick sorson what Jody get out of here, go back. And I know, in fairness to Nick, Nick wasn't supposed to be the special team's coach. I mean, it's like that's not fair to even compared Nick. He's a younger coach.

I get it. But he wasn't even coaching special teams in the last couple of years, and he was the assistant the start of this season to remember, and just got bumped up. So there you go. That is Keeping It Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Bundab opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Roberts Mundab. We're back with social media questions and we've got some today, that's for sure. After a Jaguar lost to the Denver Broncos.

It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday at Thursday. No, it's not, it's Monday. My name is J. P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony was Sally alongside. We have social media questions each Monday. We put out the bat signal and here's the best we've come up with today. Question number one p W three. At what point do we start looking at bebel in the offensive scheme? All rout to go to the sidelines. Nothing is ever over the middle

chart has never moved around or in the slot. Lavisco only does slants announced no good checkdown options. What is this boomer bust offense is the question. And Pete, I think you wrote this in your other handle on Twitter. Well, I mean, the guy's not wrong. He's a real observer of the game. He's picked up on it easily. And I said all I need to say on I'd love to hear what Tony has to say about it, and and don't hold back, Tony, don't hold back. Umduction is

not there. I'm not gonna put it on Daryl Bubble. And I've said it earlier. I think they should run the quarterback a little bit more on some design read options. I think they should use this athletic ability, let him get into the flow of the game. Um, I haven't seen a ton of creativity as the passing game. But you know how much of that is Darryl Bello and how much is that just trying to take care of the rookie. I mean, that's a conference, you know, So

I'm not gonna it's two games in. I'm not killing Daryl Bubble at this point. Well, let me ask you this though, If you're creative in the passing game doesn't help the brookie rookie, Well, you have to get everyone lined up. You have to do the motion. You've only been a trading campsince July. I mean, my gosh, don't yeh had all the reps with the starters. You couldn't

put more stuff you could? That be it? Here we go again, question number two, Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday at Duval Underscore forty three, we overestimated this receiver group. They aren't winning often enough. They have no speed in the slider on outside, they don't play fast at all. What can be done this early to help Trevor the rest of the way? Hashtag it's worse? Hashtag Pete for GM, hashtag Duval Who over who? Over hype these wide receivers?

Because I don't remember anywhere on this show over hyping anyone. Do you remember the talking to running camp the training camp talk was like, okay, the top three, that's not that's that's not true. I'm not saying on this Pete. Pete and I talked about that Marvin Jones was a nice number two receiver at the Lions. He's a professional receiver, a ton to prove. And the mrs was a slot guy that you know it was than up last year and he's slow. Well, Pete had in the slow part.

I was trying to be nicer, but yes, Pete did say that receiver standard, he's slow, you know, the one that surprised me, Pete that the DJ is not having a better year this year. I'm telling you he looks at times like he's floating out there. And he did last year too. I mean, I understandably last year because he was frustrated with the quarterback. But I get a sense that they's frustrated with the offense. I just don't I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it

looks like to me. I remember in the off season, right after Urban came in, they had the conversation and he kind of challenged him to put on some muscle, and he did it. He responded, seven eight nine more pounds of muscle for DJ, and I gotta play bigger, he said, you know, and play stronger as a receiver. That was the because he's got to be able to handle all that traffic in the middle of the field that he never sees. Hey, DJ, you know you know what DJ is doing right now? DJ seeing a lot

of money going out the window. Contract you right, If I'm d J, I either do one or two things. You pick it up or you know, you start griping one or the other. Because this is a money year for him and it's going out the window. He can't get paid. You can't pay him now based on two games right now, you cannot pay DJ jar cannot. I can't disagree. And two years ago he looked like he was on the verge of being a really good receiver, like almost you know, one of the better ten fifteen

in league, and he's not. He's not that now. And another thing too, he doesn't play to his speed. I you know everybody, I I get criticized by fans when I say they don't they're not fast. They go, well, DJ eight time that what we any time at the combine for four or whatever. Doesn't play to that for whatever reason I don't know. By the way, DJ Shark sixteen targets, four catches, one oh five one touchdown for the season two games, sixteen targets four catches. That's crazy

four and one. Yesterday they down field got a pass interference another time to him, well, I mean the one long shot that it was he was over his head kind of and then he missed him on the he was opened on the post corner route. He missed him, and then they ran the route again and he missed him. He wasn't and then the next time he wasn't open. So again I think he's getting frustrated. That's just me frustrated.

Who knows you when you watch the tape, you go watch him closely and you tell me if if he doesn't or he's not fast one or the other. Well, I don't know. Question number three on Jaguar's Happy Hour this Monday afternoon at Jags. There's a lot of long questions today. Can we look at changing the name of the show? Love you guys? A long time listener of both and you two together a radio gold But we've lost seven times straight with no end in sight. Nothing

happy about that. Can we take a page out of Bucky Brooks in the Huddle Up podcast and take to a poll for a new name? Now he's talking about the two of you, it must be me and Pete. He's talking about it here, right, Pete, That's what I was gonna say. There is three of us, right, they left you out. I started out of this one. Tony JP. You know the truth. You know who they're talking about. You doesn't care if you do the show show if hey,

you can put anyone in there. You can be like just a robot, just the agenda, Go Pete, go Tony. So the robot might actually get the day of the week right. You know I didn't get that right coming back? So should we change it to the Tony Show? No? Oh no, oh no, you get second billing. You're crazy. You might be, you might be up in the pride or whatever. You still get a second billing. There's only

one star. It's not you know, you're a star football player on the star media member stopping right, You are a media member and I'm a star. Just to ask him, he'll tell you. Question number four on Jaguar is happy hour tonight at Jags Knowles Magic? Oh wow? Is it too soon to say that training Sydney Jones the fourth to the Seahawks for a sixth round pick was a huge mistake? I was saying, oh wow to the the emailer's handle here Jags Knowles Magic. That's a rough going.

He's tormenting himself. YEA too early to say this. I would have camp. I don't know, yeah, I would have. I mean a huge mistake. Huge mistakes mistake, Sydney Jones. Would you have an extra wind if he was on the roster right now? No? No, But he wasn't a bad player though. It's great, is he? Is he in the future though? No? So they did the right thing getting the pick when they did right? Yeah, because after the quarterback this year, this year's draft has lined up

so well. But you're such a bad person. Well, well go through the draft. The first round. The other first round pick isn't playing, The second round pick, go ahead, not playing, third round pick not playing? Who was the third round pick? Uh? Yeah, yeah, not playing? If the fourth round defensive tackle hadn't even been he wasn't active yesterday yet. Yeah, the fifth round defensive end hasn't been active yet. And then the sixth round pick is who is that? That's I'm trying to think of it on

my head. But for the draft that looks so promising, is it? Didn't you think three or four of those guys would be starting? Um? Let me think I thought Trevor would start. I thought I thought three. I thought three of the four first four picks would start. Yeah.

One to wrap up the draft class, Luke, and I probably say four of the five would have started in the first five pass Luke Farrell to tight end was that six rounder Pete, and then Jalen Camp was the wide receiver from Georgia Tech of then and Luke Farrell looks like he has some talent and maybe he's gonna get an opportunity to show it. But I never really thought about it. Pete, I mean, that's a that's an excellent point. Only Trevor is out there consistently from this

draft class. Let's wrap it up with a six questions today final one at Angela's seven seven on seven Tony slash Pete. How do we fix this patience? The only thing I was gonna say, there's no quick fix, Like, there's no like this morning, I'm Dan and Jeff show. They were ringing, ringing of their hands, wringing their hands, like what do we like? There's no fix, there's no

like magic. I mean, the one thing I agree with Urban is like all you can do is go work, you know, just go go to work, go practice, try to get your own players better. But here's the problem. There's no quick fix. Here's the problem. This is where the fans get angry, and I can understand it. He had all that cap room and you had the number one overall pick and draft picks. And are they better?

Are they better than last year? Yes? I mean yeah, because you have Trevor Lawrence, so yes, but aside from him, aside from him, are they better? Probably better? But okay, okay, but let's go the offensive line is exactly the same. Okay, papers are except for Marvin Jones. But it is And I think is Marvin Jones that much better than than uh, what's his name is he? I mean I think he's a little better, but James robinsons, Yeah, he's a little better.

He's not as fast as keeling Cole James Robinson. James Robinson is uh? Okay? Is man is man hurts? That is? Has he not been worth the money? So yeah, they're not, they're not. I'm not I'm not saying it's that worth the money. But he's not better than effort and they should have Josh Oliver in hindsight? Is he planning for Baltimore? Almost got a touchdown last night? Yeah, like he's on the field. I was on the plane flying up on the plane. Yeah, I don't know what a snap cow

was last night. But he gets on the field he had a great preseason. He had a catch last night one for nine yards. Yeah. I many catches to the Titans have after sha he left last night yesterday. Yeah, zero is my guess on that one. And that was That's what Josh Oliver was gonna be pass catching tight end To this day, I don't understand why you just didn't like see what he was during camp when you I just don't like. There's certain things and I'm sure I do things in my life beat that people look

at like what the hell are you thinking? Yeah, which I'm sure I don't see them because I'm blind to them. But there's certain things we do sometimes as the organization, like or like you're not just us, but like GM or coach on Lake and I'm like, why are you doing that? Like why are you actually like what was like the genesis behind that decision? It's and and defensively, I'll say they're because the line is better than a year ago? Oh much? Yeah? Close? Are they better at

the corner? Yeah, better than Sydney Jones by the way, well jab is better than what? Better on defense? Yeah, yeah, they're better on defense. Josh Oliver played twelve of the seventy six snaps last night, so eight or for the Baltimore Ravens in that game? Did he uh? He had one target, one catch nine yards? Is that his only catch of the year? It is, so let's go back. That'll do it for us social questions today. Thanks for the submissions on social media. We appreciate it. We will

get to them again next week. We're back in a moment with a look around the National Football League and we'll pick Monday night football. Tony is there at Lambeau Fielding in Green Bay and this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon j P. Shadrick with Tony Vasselli and Pete Prisco. The day after a Jaguars loss in Week two to the Denver Broncos. The Jaguars are

owing two. They've now dropped seventeen consecutive games. Still try to snap it this coming week against the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray red Hot coming in to t I A. Bank Field next week. Let's go around the National Football League and take a look at some of the games yesterday and the Panthers all over the Saints twenty six to seven. Bunch of offensive coaches out for the Saints yesterday Pete and that loss. But it looks like a bunch of offensive players were out for the Saints till

they were so bad on offense. And that Carolina defense is one to keep an eye on. I mean Derrick Brown in the middles playing up there where he was the rest of the passer. Chin's a good player. They added horn on defense and Sam Donald the usc Boys playing well. Tony. I thought Sam Darnald couldn't play quarterback. Yeah, it was. He was at the Jets and didn't have a coaching he's doing. I've always been a Sam Doronald believer. I think he's gonna be a really good quarterback and

he's proven it so far early returns in Carolina. They chose the right guy. Are you doing their game Thursday night against Texans? No, I'm not doing downstairsday night, okay, because that that's another winnable game for them this week. They could be three and oh well they're win that game because no, Tyrod Taylor, right, Davis Mills is good as a decent player, though, telling you he's gonna be a good player, you want to like you're picking you

wanna you wanna lock didn't quiet? Quiet? I might take him though, we'll see Bears beat the been. Andy Dalton hurt justin fields time. Be careful what you wish for, because he went in there and threw him one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen in my life, and it almost allowed the Bengals to get back into the game.

It was so is a pick six. It was so bad. Um. But again, he's not preparing to play as a starter now he will be because Andy Dalton is probably gonna be gone for a little while, so we'll see what he has. He looked okay, it was a bad throw though, yeah, I didn't see I mean it will be fun to watch me if if you're the Bears, why don't you let's go move on? Are you really going to do anything this year? Well they did. They did play well in defense on Sunday. I mean they pick h up

and make the playoffs. No not, I'm always I'm a believer in playing the kid. You know that the Browns over the Texans. As you mentioned Tyrod Taylor with a hamstring injury. Baker Mayfield was injured in the game, but stayed in. The Browns rallied to win before Tyro got hurt Pete, and they were in the game, and then Mills came in and through an interception, but then he drove him back in and got it within and they in the fourth quarter. And then the brown scored late

and ended up putting the game by ten. But it was like that game was closer than you thought it was. They lost Landry by the way to Browns. Yeah, yeah, a couple of weeks not not Yeah, yeah, it could be two to four and Odell still trying to get back out there to right. The Los Angeles Rams knocked off the Indianapolis Colt. Carson Wentz has two sprained ankles somehow, Pete. It's amazing thing again, a guy who's hurt all the time, somehow seems to find a way to get hurt. It

just happens in this league. I mean, he in both ankles. How does that happen? And if he if he's not playing. They play the Titans this week, and and that means that you'd play Eason Jacob Eason R quarterback. You have to call that hot. No, no, he did not. The Colts could be in big, big trouble. The division sticks Jacks. The Jags might sweep the Colts. I'm just saying right now, Oh, we're gonna lock that. No, we're gonna admit the division

is terrible. The division that was terrible. That the Titans will win the division. They well at least one playoff game and they might go to the championships games. No, not with that defense. I'm just telling you, you run the ball. You run the ball. In January, crazy stuff happens. Bills over the Dolphins thirty five zip to a with a injury to his ribs and Jacoby Brissette was awful when he went in there. But it didn't matter if two it was in the game. The Bills were winning

that game no matter what. They came in there. They knew they had to win the game. Played like it jumped on a fourteen nothing to him and out. It didn't matter. It did not matter. Pete, I have not seen one snap, so this is an honest question, not making any judgment at all. Play I don't know is to find out every time he throws the ball. I go. They could have had Justin Herbert, that could add Justin Herbert. By the way their offensive line awful, Yet your USC

trojan was one of the worst. What did you think he was gonna be good? Austin Jackson player, I did too. No, terrible, it's early. Don't say he's terrible. It was terrible yesterday. I'm saying, Okay, that doesn't mean he's terrible. It wasn't great last year either. You're being a little harsh on the kid. You know the play play a game. You are harsh on everybody. The speaking of awful, yesterday, Zack Wilson had four interceptions in the game for the Jets

Patriots twenty five Jets six. He was bad. That was vintage Bill Belichick against a rookie quarterback. He looked lost at times. He was not good at all, and plus he was playing without his left tackle. That's a problem. I love when afterwards the New York New York media asking him if you've seen ghosts? Why he wasn't seeing he wasn't seeing guys in the other uniforms and what he wasn't seeing. Yeah, I just love the New York media leading to them unbelievable the forty Niners over the

Eagles seventeen eleven and odd score. But the Niners got it done there two and oh. And the Eagles dominated that game in the first half, dominated it. And then they were on the two yard line, fourth down, up three nothing late in a half, and they ran a trick play, and when they ran the trick play, it would incomplete. San Francisco took the ball when right down the field and scored seven three at the half and that was the end of it. They should have put it,

you know how, you know how teams good teams. If you don't put them away early, you're not gonna get them. That's what happened. Yeah, Raiders over the s to seventeen yesterday and a car threw a couple of touchdown passes two yards through the year for the Raiders who are now too A Derek cart might would be the MVP right now. Raid we'll see, but that was a good wine him. Why we'll see if you think a second,

I don't know if the secondary will hold up. I mean, they ever played a pastor yet, they played Lamar Jackson and they played Roethlisberg. Group couldn't throw the ball down the field yesterday, So we'll see if they played when they played my Homes and they're gonna hold up, doubt it, because they're much better team than they were last year defensive defensively at least Kyler murder that's a that's a low bar scene that they were thirty second. Kyler Murray

through for four hundred yesterday, three touchdowns. He ran for another one through two picks, and the Vikings missed a field goal with no time left and the Cardinals wine. That was a great game. And uh, but I was surprised at how bad the defense was for Arizona. It was so good the week before and then so bad and this one was weird any reason. I mean, what was your takeaway from it? They got pushed around. They ran Dalvin Cook at nineties six yards in the first half.

They ran all over They couldn't stop the run. M Buccaneers put forty eight on the board, five touchdown passes from Tom Brady over the falcon the beat down. Explain to me, Pete, how you get the older you get, the better you get. And I don't understand. This is like the only person in the history of mankind that is better as he gets older. Well, he's not eating fried doz. He eat avocado ice cream. That's the biggest difference. I mean, where do where do I Where do I

get avocado? Not in Green Bay. He's on pace to throw more touchdown passes in his forties already than he did in his twenties. That's not normal. No, no, it's not. The Dallas County hold on JP. He's forty three this year, right, Pete forty four. Remember when we he was like thirty eight, he said he was gonna play into his you know, made the late forties forties, and everyone laughed at him. Yeah, well he's an out talking about playing in his fifties. He should. He didn't win a Super Will get in

this year. Yeah, why they're playing right now? Why would you? Yeah, that's hard. Their defense hasn't played well in two games, though, when you score that many points, you don't have to. It's amazing. He's on pace for seventy six touchdowns. Wow, league record. Cowboys got a fifty six yard field goal with the final gun to knock off the Chargers seventeen.

And you know what, Cowboys did nothing in the second half, and somehow they had had one drive and went down and made the field goal, and and you look, the Chargers were sloppy every time they have a big play, was a penalty or something going on. So they just didn't play very well. There was a Cowboys home game, by the way, Oh yeah, a lot of a lot of Dallas stars that it was all it was half more than half was Cowboys fans. You said, Justin Herbert was on silent count at home. It was amazing. It

was having trouble. Let's put it that way. Yeah, the Titans had a huge second half Derrick Henry on the road, big win, Titans thirty three, Seahawks thirty And that game they had a touch that The Titans are tough. They've taken on the personality of their coach. When when they had a touchdown the Julio Jones could cut it to six in the third quarter, second quarter, and it was a clear touchdown and they reviewed it and they overturned it. You could have folded up. They had poled up. They

rallied and you know how they rallied. They ran the ball Tony, you would have loved it. They gave the ball to Henry and he popped the big one, got it back in the game. They're tough, physical team there. They have a good mentality. Well, if that's what I would. I would. I mean that's what you do when you need to make something happened, give it to your best player. I mean, Derrick Henry's the best player by far, and he's he's an amazing guy. I mean, he is led

the league in rushing three straight years. He might do the fourth. And he looked. It was funny because up until that, even last week against the and the Land didn't play and he was bad last week, but up until that point, why because he heard it. He digged up his knee in warm up. There you have it. And finally, speaking of tough guys, Lamar Jackson took over the game late for the Ravens. They overtook the Chief thirty five. What a game that was last night. It

was fantastic. It was a great game, up and down the field. One moving in on running the ball with the zone read, the other one throwing around. You know, everybody made a big deal out of the bubble late, but Kangas said he had the ball in the fourth quarter up eleven and Mahomes threw a bad interception. They're gonna go put that game away through a bad interception. Alright, guys, it is time for Monday Night Football lambeau Field, Green Bay,

the home opener for the Green Bay Packers. They were blown out by the Saints in Week one in Jacksonville. They'll entertain Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, including Mark Brunell. They lost their opener against the forty Niners last week. Somebody's oh, he's gotta go and less they tie who you got quickly? I got the Green Bay Packers in a blowout, and Tony's already locked it. He's got the Lions. I didn't lock it. Um. I think it's gonna be

closer than people think. I think the Packers gonna win. I mean, I think you know. Aaron Rodgers is six and oh after a loss under UH this regime here in Green Bay under the four UH in four of those games, he's had average four touchdowns, zero picks four tonight, so he's gonna come out. He's got a young secondary, a Coula, the best corners out within thorn Achilles. You've got a couple of rookies and a third year quarter starting.

So so you're getta picked. You know who you're picking? Uh, And it sounds like it's the Packers have a great call Tony Pete will talk to you next week. For our entire crew, I'm JP Shatrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.