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Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli and J.P. Shadrick recap the Jaguars' Week 5 loss to the Panthers on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet HomeLoans and Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's footballers tugging. They know what just happened. They understand that this being just made the playoffs for the first time in ten years. It is Monday, October seventh. This is Jack Buars Happy Hour. Hey now, along with Pete Prisco and the president of the Andrew Norwell Fan Club, Jay Peace. Yes, welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour The Truth presented by Jed home Loans J P. Shaddicks. That's Tony was selling ender of the Truth.

That's what I'd like to be called today. Pete Prisco down in South Florida, CBS Sports senior writer, we got a show today, fellas the Cell. He's all fired up. Priscoe is gonna be fired up too, I think today, Pete, what's up? Man? Peter great, great job. Drop in, Pete. I'm here. I said. We got to warn the audience that Tony has fired up today. Yeah, well he is. I mean, if you look on Twitter today being mean,

I'm not being mean, fiery. I'm warning you the Twitter video told people to get out of here, right I no, I just said, wake up. Let's pay attention. Watch the tape. This is like, we're just gonna tell the truth to dead's all, let's let's talk about the truth. This team lost the game they should have won, and why did they lose the game they should have won? But very simple defense. No two things. Two yards of rushing they gave up. Whatever it is. The second words stay in

franchise history. That's example one. Can't do that and win. Example too. Can't turn the ball over three times. Can't be can't turn it over three times once it led to a touchdown, once or both led to touchdown to left to led the touchdowns. One was point blank deep in your own territory you fumbled, and the other they returned for a touchdown. That's fourteen points. You can't do that. That's why they lost the game. Run defense is atrocious, Uh,

atrocious tis against the Broncos. To the past defense was atrocious against the Broncos. Basically, teams are deciding, like we're just gonna move the ball. We'll pick our pick our poison. This week it was the run game, last week it was the past game. Who thought who thought that we'd be at this point in the season and it would be the defense that was the concern and not the offense with the backup quarterbacking one of the stars. So I mean it was you can't follow the ball on offense,

you cannot fumble the ball. Two free mitsh you. One was on Norwell. It's the bottom line unless someone tells me the fullback came too tight to uh to mits you. But I don't think anyone's come out and said that yet. No. Doug Brons said the quarterback needs to can't keep it. He's gonna keep it tight. That's on Mitch you. That's what I saw on the tape. It was on Midshew.

So two on Minshew, one on Norwell. Can't do it, can't turn it over the front seven the one we was bouncing around Tony where it was like he was trying to do what he did in Denver, where he's trying to find a little lane to the pressure. Once in a million years, you can't do that, you know, you got to get there was no pressure. He was right, he started right. It was fanom pressure. It was, and so he was trying to make now he didn't he

was in the pocket. There was nothing there. A lot of quarterbacks like to bounce it out if there's nothing there after you know, four seconds or so to get outside um. But you can't do it. I mean, you can't fumble the ball there. You're trying to go win the game or tie the game late, you're on the thirty yard line, whatever it is, you cannot fumble there. One we're showing right now. That's on Norwell. I mean he got pushed like seven yards back. He got beat.

It happens. Okay, it's the NFL. Those guys get paid. Mario Addison is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. He just got a six and a half second third best in the league. But he's a good player. It happens. I mean, I listen to all these people on radio and internet. Oh no, Norm's terrible. He's a bomb. He can't play. Give me a break. Watch the tape. He had too bad plays. That was a bad play against a very good player. It's unfortunate happens. But guess what.

Every player in this league, every one of them gets beat, all of them. Everyone has a pay and Tony and you made a point before the show. Look, he's not as bad as being portrayed, and he's also not worth them close to being worth the money. Well, but Pete, come on, you've been doing this a long time. You overpay in free agency, that's what happens. Okay, we have the general manager had on you right now. If you had an opportunity to go sign him again, would you

sign him? Would I signed him again if I had the opportunity. That's the only question we can ask right now. Um, I actually I don't know because I don't remember the situation. I actually cannot remember what was our guard situation back there. I think we were desperate because we came off a year we had zero offensive line, and we needed people and we had huge calf space. So yeah, you make it all right now as is? Would you sign them? Would I pay him as much as he's making right now? No, yes,

okay I would. That's why the fans get all up and all. But that's the wrong question right now, Pete, that's the wrong question to be asking Game five. That's a dumb question. That's why you're a reporter and not a GM because that's not the question you asked. You asked that question in February. Whether you want to go and tell him to take a discount February, well you can't, because a cap reasons. But that's a whole another issue that I'm not gonna get into. But that's a dumb question.

You don't talk about money in week five. You know you talked about is you look at the tape and you grade them based on what they're doing. That's what you do, and if you watch the tape. This year, he has played above average good at times, above average good at times. He's been phizzic cool. I thought Sunday he was physical. He had two bad pass plays. He let Gerald McCoy get on an edge cause the pressure

and he got pushed back by Mario Addison. This is I mean, I want to just say it again for everyone listening, because the people out in that I've listened to today and read on the internet, the people I'm not laming names. We name names on the show, but we name names. Let's put it in perspective. That was the number one, number one Pete rush pass rush team in the NFL and quarterback hits in sacks. Guess so many hits that team had. Pete one one gets so

many sacks they had two? Guess how many total yards the offense had over five hundred. Don't tell me the line didn't play well, have over five hundred yards the total offense b s. Thank you. That's what I'm talking about. You know what, j You know what, this reminds me when he used to take up for Luke Joko all the time. Oh my goodness, chrisco top Rope. I saw Joko on the SEC network the other week. Of all things. Oddly enough, let's well plenty more on the offensive line

to come. Obviously, this is going to be a topic. We circle back to all program here we started here. It's the wrong thing to talk about as far as what the problem is. That's my whole thing. So let's talk about everything else. Will come back, come back right about that. It's not But that's all I hear, Pete, That's all I'm hearing. That's where they open up on the shows and other places. That's what they're talking about. Internet. I get people saying we should bench him, get rid

of him. He's no good. Offen's like I got blown back nine yards. First of all, it was at nine. It was ticks and a half, and it was one play. Watch the rest of the game. Do you guys watch football? Do you watch it? You know? Because I don't know. I watched Zach Marton, the greatest guard in the history of the game, supposedly who plays for the Cowboys, who I think is a very good player. Beat. I watched him get beat. It's like two Sunday nights ago. He

got beat. He got beat the other yesterday gainst the Cowboy. So it should we cut him, beete to be ti him to take a pay cut? Is he awful? But please, actually, please, never ever, ever again. Compare Andrew normal to Zach Martin. I'm comparing the situation pet of one play and over analyzing, over reacting. To one point, It's been more than one play a game for Andrew Norwald talking this game, I'm talking about this well, other people are talking about the

body of work. No, I'm not not not the people on all right, let's come back to watch the body of work. Let's go through it. Let's come back. We'll come back. We're not gonna leave right now. Tired of the fat guys getting picked up, We'll circle back around the offensive line, run defense. Obviously, they are one of the major issues. Yesterday. Miles Jack in the locker room had some things to say about it. Um I had

a couple of in correct cause. So, I mean, I'm really gonna put that on myself, like Tod, I can't put it on anybody. With myself, I feel like I gotta come back, I gotta be better. Um, and I know it's this team to be better. So UM, I'm really putting that on myself. UM, I don't blame anybody else for myself. A lot of that sound in the locker room last night. You heard the guys talking about they missed their run fits, they were not in the right fits. What does that mean? They're they're an eight

man front their gap there their their gap defense. So they play eight up silas safety. There's eight gaps on a football field, and so they should have a man for every gap. And so if you have good run fits, you're fitting your gap. Gaps move as plays move, so you fit your gap. What we saw yesterday was zero gap fits and gaping holes on plays. That I mean, people chasing ghosts all day long out of position, and then when we're in position, missing tackles. They tackle poorly too.

That was it wasn't just missing their gaps, they tackled poorly. The big thing was gap I mean, I mean there were holes in there that I mean they were so bi Wow, come on, that's not fair. That's not fair, Pete. You could have you could have got a couple of first down set I mean they were it was amazing. And then the backup running back comes in and the crack is even bigger. Yeah, that was poor. It was bad. So one of the things we're not gonna do anymore

on this show. At least, we're not gonna talk about elite defense no more. Hell no, no, what are they are? They average? Pete? The average? Pete said this defense had a chance to be one of the greatest defensive history the NFL. The hed No, I didn't say. I said one of the best defenses in the league this year history. That's what you said, Pete. Yeah, yeah you did. So you're you're making them. He mentioned the Doomsday defense, he

mentioned the two thousand Ravens, he mentioned the Jaguars. So anyways, Um, they're not elite. They're not good right now. They're bad. They're not bad there average playing well, they're bad. You never bad yesterday. They weren't good in Denver. They're at average defense right now. So what against Marioda? That's it? So what is the most pressing issue now, and how do they fix that? What is the most pressing issues? The run? How do you fix run? Is it a

discipline thing? Is it an individual player thing? Do you be a hero on every play? That's first of all, it's individuals, right, It's like doing your job. Just do your job. Okay, Belichick, that's it, though, Pete, I'm sorry, that's defense. Do your job. Stop running around trying to be a hero. Do everyone else's job, do yours. Let's name names on the runs, and you you tell me who's the blame for him? Ready, go ahead. The linebacker

level was terrible. Number one. Quincy Williams got benched, that's how bad he was. And Myles Jack was wildly out of position and did not play well. And he's he just told us that the linebacker level was not good. What happened with Williams blocked, poor tackles, bad gaps, all of the above, and he started he was getting it. That's the weird thing. Did he get anything yesterday? Then? Yeah, he got shook a couple of times by McCaffrey on the eight four yard run. With it, there's no one there.

Run that back rewind. They're all running towards the really okay, stop, stop, go back, go back. Watch Pete, it's amazing. Where are please rewind that one more time. He's the left linebacker. He's going with the reverse action. We're watching this on Jaguars dot Com. Jaguars dot com is you can play it back again. He got Samuel in a reverse action.

That's where Miles Jack's going. Both linebackers going like saying, please come down the middle because there's Yeah, the two guys on that are on the down part of that play got blocked too. Well, they got blocked. Okay, it's one thing to get blocked. Getting blocked happens at times. But when you're unblocked, you can't know the wrong way. You can't chase ghosts. Well, that's if you look at it, Tony.

They got the reverse action to Samuel, so Jackie was supposed to go with the reverse action, and and Williams is supposed to pop into the middle. First of all, back up, if you look at it, it's the worst fake of reverse ever. He literally he's literally jogging, so where are you going? That's like every lineman is going the other way. I mean, it's like it's ridiculous. He doesn't. That's gotta be on Miles Jack Come on, it's terrible. It's not good defense. Terrible defense. And Derek Darius is

getting washed down down the side too. He's not playing well either. Right, Um, I will say this, when you give up two five yards in the ground, nobody is playing good run defense on the run seven. There you have it, not even no nobody, nobody. You gotta own it. That's like saying, like an offensive line gives of ten cents. But oh hey, the left apple played well and angle on the one run was atrocious. And then he's heard I don't know what's going on. So suddenly the Jacksonville

Jaguard defense has morphed into a below average unit. I gotta win. We hatta win by point. I guess we have to win by out scoring people. That's one of the most amazing stories of the first five weeks, right there. We just said that. And by the way Jalen was in the game, it wouldn't have mattered either. No, no, no, I mean heard it played fine coverage. Oh they're running for two or five, they don't have to throw as much.

Here's the other thing. We can't get pressure with four and That's why I thought, well, she's having to blitz a lot more. We blitz a lot now, more than we ever have because we can't not get home with four. And this is an offensive line guys that had two backup starting that the backup right. Two of their best linemen were out. Trey Turner, who's their best offensive line in the right guard out played Darryll Williams, who was a tackle. Usually little Greg Little, the rookie who's playing

left tackle, he's out. They started a sixth round pick this year, rookie who was a guard from South Carolina at left tackle. You see, that's where in dock Way and Gang has to have to win consistently. Did not happen. Is he hurt? He's not an injury report, that's all I know. Now. Remember earlier in the year he had the hamstring issue and missed his first game ever, and it looked like remember the week after that, he was still little slowed by that as of right now in

playing himself into a big dollar deal. M let's come back. We'll get back on the offensive side. Yes, the turnovers were bad, there was a lot of good on office. Yes, yeah, we're gonna make that coffee cup half full. Yeah, because it's a mean spirited mood today, angry. I'm I'm just fighting for my the guys up front because I'm tired of the people taking shots that aren't accurate. Get ready for Benshumani with the Saints Jaguars game October thirteenth. That's

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Loans J. P. Shadrick. Someone snuck Tony Tony Basselli, Someone's snuck hot tea and where the coffee pods are one of those days for your base man. That's everything happens when you lose like that. I mean they changed the coffee for tea. The the lunch is cold. You got you know last week I said when you win everything, that's good. Now I got the trouble because I said, you want to kick the dog. Now it's raining brown, grasses brown. Your wife and girlfriend are ugly. Did you

see the tweet that we got? J P says, please tell Tony's not accurate. Pete has owned him in any debate in the last twenty years. Is that your mom? Oh, it's Stephen Hopkins. He's a he's a big fan of mine. I guess it doesn't like the angry man about that. We've we've we've discussed obviously. The turnovers are not good and that that costs the Jags a game, part of the reason why the three fumbles by Gardner Minshew, But

there were some positive things on offense. The first thing is Minshew's still playing pretty well other than the turnovers, right, come on, say that? Well, no, I get to say that he threw for three seventy four yesterday and was three times in the end zone to try to tie the game. I thought, minsh, you played um good, the numbers. I think he's played better. I agree with that the numbers are big because he's playing from behind trying to come back. So that's gonna hapen. They'd rather not have

to pass fifty one times. You know, he had to run seven he threw. That's fifty one drops. That's too much exactly. Um, So what's encouraging is the throws that he makes. What's encouraging is the poise. What's encouraging this. He's a rookie, like you have a guy who can bring you back and you have a chance to win football games from the quarterback position. That's what's encouraging. Um, you gotta clean up things. Uh, you can't turn it over.

Ball security is critical. The one side his fault. He's actually cocking back to throw it and he gets hitting his back. By nowell, that is not on him. I argued with Jeff Jeffs trying to say, he's gotta, you know, do a better job and secureing the ball. Come on, how's he supposed to see the guy was the guy who's throwing to open on the take? Tony No, okay, but still not his faulty. Maybe he's trying to throw

it away. I don't know. Let's I mean the sound we just heard from Minshew there he's discussing DJ Chark, who's looking like this. He could be a superstar this year. A superstar. Yes, that's like the greatest news. It's fantastic. We have not had a number one, true number one receiver in this place since Jimmy Smith and Keena Mark Cardell. Correct, when we had really to two guys you count on did not count he That's what I'm saying. So you would not count Allen Robinson that one year. No, not

like that, Not like this guy. This guy can run, he's fast, he can do it all his hands. You can go up and get it. Playmaking to his body controls unbelievable. That play at the goal line, I mean that was really a touchdown if they had a view down the line to keep it in bounds and to reach out and to even think about I thought he got robbed at that one. That didn't matter. Um, I'll say here's a bold overstatement, over reaction. Let me give

you one right now. It's only five games in. He's the third best receiver in the history of this franchise, you might not be far off. Okay, give me, give me the give me who would be ahead of him? Robinson still ahead of him? Right? Huh? Isn't Allen Robinson still ahead of him? Third? I'm just telling you, well, what are the options Jimmy and Keenan are wanted to? Who else would be one? That's why that's what I make R. J. Soward, Reggie Williams, Matt Jones. I mean,

don't want to or to go. Let's say he's the fourth. I'll put Allen Robinsons the third. It's still it's five games. He's the fourth bench receiver in the history of a Cecil. No, he was better than Cecil. I mean, that's how bad this position is, Ben Pete. They bust it on them all Tony. You think about it. They busted on three first round picks and one was it. One was in the top ten. The kids are stud Now it's early, it's overreaction. It's way to early to say what I

just said. But I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with it because I think he laid us out there. Now. No, there's Mr Logman, come join his logs. He doesn't want any of this tonight logs, you don't want it, you don't want it, defending the fact, guys, the big guys logs, it's a whole thing. Um. So on the other side of the thing. On offense here, I mean Leonard for that had a forty eight yard run in this game,

finished with one h eight for twenty three carries. And there were moments where he's still running the ball really hard, right, But there's other moments where it's going out wide and he can't find traction. I don't want to see this wide run anymore. He's not a He's not a He is not good at going parallel line of scrimmage and

then finding a hole and turning it up. His shoulders need to be parallel, I mean, need to be parallel line scrimmage the entire time when he when he's perpendicular, when he's waste of time and I think he misses holes, yeah I do too. But when he's perfectly, when he's parallel to the line of scrimmage, his shoulders are square to the line of scrimmage. I mean, I'm telling you he runs well, and he has some really good runs, like obviously they can work for McCaffrey. They did that.

McCaffrey can do anything you want. He's the best back, but he's not. He's not different. Different cats, totally different cats. Different and run runs. The one runs to contact. I mean, McCaffrey is the best offensive player in football. Well, it's not named the court. It was not a quarterback. Yeah, non quarterback. He's the best player in football. Agreed, Absolutely agree, it is. In fact, you want to put quarterbacks in there, there's only one. There's not many above him, and only

one or two ahead of him, maybe three mahomes. The only problem is he's a running back, so it would be used up in a couple of years. The way he plays, O pete, he can he can have a long career because he can go to the third down back. Do you remember when they thought he would be able to handle runs between the tackles. We make sure I never thought that. I didn't either people. People did the expert experts opinions or the expert said he was a

third down in return guy. Well he could be. He could run between the tackles for about twenty years, and he can run between those. He's the best football player, offensive football player in the world. Right now. He's in the MVP conversation that the whole universe, there is not a better offensive football player than Christian McCaffrey. You said, except for a couple of quarterbacks. It's a fact. No, quarterbacks aren't hold another category. No, Well, in the m

v P race, it's the best. That's the most valuable player right now. He's my m VP of the NFL. Mine would probably be Mahomes, Russell Wilson. That's you're wrong. He's the most. They got better records at The most valuable player who does the most for his team is Christian McCaffrey. Okay, all right, so okay, here you go, miss Lly. You have a pick. You can take whichever one you want to be your most valuable player. I'll take Mahomes. You would take McCaffrey over over Mahomes. I'm

picky McCaffrey as my as a player before. He's not more valuable than any quarterbacks, so stop it. Really, he's not more valuable. No running back in the history of the league is more valuable than a great quarterback. Not happening. Ever, Brown would disagree all these players we just listed though this year that Jack's could have drafted all of them. Remember that, Russell Wilson, Why are you going back from? Why are you going backwards? They drafted Brian Anger over

over Russell Wilson. That was a good pick. It's a terrible pig. They drafted Leonard four Nette over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson and Kristin McCaffrey. And what was the other one they had? And that's the Yeah, that's the three of them. Well, I don't like to look backwards because number one, we have a very good punter now and number two, if they grow on trees punters. Number two, Leonard Fournett is having a good year. He's a third

leading Russian NFL. Number three we have a quarterback. It's Minshew. We don't need anyone else. So is he in now for good? I mean, has he secured the starting job? Not yet? Not yet? What if they win? See? I think Sunday's game will decide that, because think about it, what does this schedule after that? Isn't it the Jets and Bengals? Yes? Correct, So Sunday's game decides whether Minshew is the starting quarterback in my mind should be it's

Saints Bengal's Jets, Texans in that order. They're winning the next three. Lock it another lock alright, So if he wins the next three, I think he has to win the next four to guarantee startership. And the Texas is in London. Ship, Okay, you know what, So Tony, the Texans are in London, right, so he's gotta win three. This is the week though, because you look at it. If he wins this week, he should beat the Bengals and the Jets are both those games at home. No,

no Bengals in Cincinnati, terrible place. But think about it, Tony, right, so you should win those two games. I got the Skyline Chili the worst chili in America. It's not good, is it? What's the rib place Montgomery and is pretty good? Skyline Chili is the worst chili. And you can tell everyone in Cincinnati. I said it. I think it's awful. It's got like cinnamon in it. Or why they think why they promote this is this is great chili. I don't understand. It's like why to re like barely and

you put it on spaghetti? He put on spaghetti noodles. It's awful, And they're like, even if you want the chili and you want to put it on a hot dog like I like chili dog. It's terrible because it's so runny and soupy. You can't you can't have a chili dog with it. It's the worst chili in America. We've digressed off of our topic. He let's come back. People the questions. So if he wins this week and wins the next two, is he the starter? I said,

he guarantee. He's a guarantee starter. If he wins in the next four, that would make them five and four. I think they're going to false at five and four. Really, you're asked me what I think they do. I think they go to false. I wouldn't, I'd stick with Minshew. All right, let's come back. Let's get back to the defensive side. When we return, shoot the Jaguars. But it also how they get to that five and four matters, Like if he sent seven yesterday, so how do you

backter that one was on him? Yeah it was. He fumbled three times, okay, fumbled twice. He doesn't fumble those two times. They win the football game. There's the difference. Thank you. Coming up with daily place Zack Brown Band and if they don't give up two D talking. What are you doing? They? Zach Brown Band? Will you stop talking?

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participating North Florida get locations limit one per customer. Yeah, that's exactly how we felt, you know, the whole time. And that goes back to what you said earlier, the first question you asked about the misfits. If we could have just you know, did a couple of more fits and a couple more three and hours, we could have put offense in a better position as a defense. And uh, you know we're gonna work to get that better. That's unique and got quite a couple of sacks tackle for

loss yesterday. Are you relaxed, Tony? Your foots on the table, you're leaning back in the chair. You got a nice tea. You're gonna lean back and do the show? And I don't. I mean the tea is it's not my style. I'd like to have a cup of coffee. That's what. Well. The Jags lost, so you get what you get. Yeah, like that I said, when you lose, everything stinks. I mean you got you know, just food taste crappy, that's got it's raining out. You know, it's just just a

bad day. Now. Nothing tastes good. You know what happens Sometimes after a bad day, a good day happens. You know, so let the sun always rises in the east. Well thanks wow from JP. Yeah, well I got to this guy's off the rocket. Can you give you some good news something I love? Something I love about this team? What's love? This team? Every one of them? And I was reminded by watching the video in gock Way coming back. This is a tough group who plays hard and no

give up. I mean, like as negative as like they were bad on defense and their run fits were atrocious, and guys gotta play better, especially the linebackers. But it's not like they're laying down, like they fight down and they did. That's why I actually, I'm really I have a lot of respect for these guys in this team because this team would not have done this last year.

This was a team that quit last year at time like it was just had enough, like we're not and this year, this year, all year, all the distractions of twenty and all the stuff going on, this is a tough minded group who pers severs, who plays hard and fights to the end. And I give them credit. Like they were bad on defense, they were bad. Like I've been there before. I've been a part of seven eights

offensive lines. When you don't want to look at anybody and talk to anybody, and you're embarrassed because it's like bad and there's like you have nothing to say because it's just bad and that, and those are the times in the locker room when you walk in and said Marco was responsible for four of them for holding the football. Well he was, he was. Let's not let's not kid each other. I mean everyone knows it was not the

guys up front, but what they met. But they what they do, and they remind me, they remind me of some of the early Jag teams. They play hard man, they they're they're a gritty group. Injuries, guys come in, I mean, just keep it going. And I give him credit.

I give him a lot of credit. And I think and because of that attitude, the toughness, the mental toughness of this team has I'm confident that come December they're gonna be fighting for the division entitled because as disappointing that loss was yesterday, because every lost thinks, I mean three or two would be great. You've got a tough Saints game coming up. Um, but they're gonna be there. I have a good week. I think they'll come out physical.

I think they're gonna play tough against the Saints. I think they'll be. I mean it won't because of lack of effort or grit that they're gonna, you know, win or lose this game. Uh. And because of it, I think come December they're gonna have a real chance to win. I agree with you. I agree with you. I think they've they're feisty. They just got to clean up a lot of crack. I mean, there's a lot of bad stuff going on. Yeah, there was a By the way,

we haven't talked about the elephant in the room. What's that? Jayleen h twenty? What's the talk about? Well, I mean he a is he hurt? They sent him to a specialist to find out if he is indeed hurt, and then he's in Houston taking pictures with the quarterback in the US to Texans on the day of a game. That's a deal. I don't think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a big deal. Last night after the game, apparently did they send him to Houston or did he go? Uh. The word we've gotten is the

specialist is in Houston. He's going to see today, correct, And they send them there they're going to get the review. I guess today or tonight is what Doug morons. Okay, So if he went there at the request of the team and he so happens to be in Uston, his agent is there with Deshaun Watson and they're friendly, is that a bad look? So it's a bad look. It's not wrong? Does that make sense? So here's the thing. If it wasn't Jalen there was any other player, would

it be a bad look? It's still a division rival quarterback. Here's I guess my problem. And I tried to explain this this morning. It's a bad look because of everything else that's been going on and how it's been handled. It's a bad look. Um, but today's NFL is different. You might as well just come to understand that guys are friends. Social media is big, and this is how

people operate and they live their lives. Now, if it was me and the prudent thing to do, and if you had self awareness, I'm fine with jail and going to Houston because that's where, uh, his specialist is. I mean, I think the right thing is if you're really because he came out and told everybody cares about his team and his teammates, who wants to support them? Why not go to the game in Carolina watched the team play. Support your teammates and get on a flight and fly

to Houston last night. Or if that doesn't work, and then maybe the team didn't want him there, that's a possibility. Sometimes injured guys don't travel, which is fine too. And you want to go to Houston early, and you want to go meet up with your friend Deshaun Watson, you have the same agent. I'm fine with that, but have enough prudence and self awareness to say, hey, de Sean, don't put that on social media for me. Because be clear, Jalen did not put that on social media. The starry

Watson put that on social media. And I think the prudent thing would have been for Jailing to say, I'll hang, we're boys, but do me a favor. It's a bad look for this to be on on social media. The bad look for me. I don't want my team, I don't want to send the wrong message to my teammates, and I don't want to send the wrong message to the fans because, according to jail And, he cares about his teammates and the fans of Jacksonville. Because that's what he told us. Is that not what he told us

in the press company? That's what he said, That's what he said. So if that's the case, then that's a bad look. It's a bad look for those reasons him being there. I don't care if he has a doctor's appointent there, go hang out with your buddy whatever. But it's a bad look, Pece. But I mean, of all the things that has happened, it's the least of the bad looks. It all adds up. It's the wrong message. You know, he's not getting traded, so that lets me know.

But you know as well as I do. And today social media and the way we interact, you have to have self awareness of the message. Let me tell you this. You think that's another shot at the organization. Look, guys, I'm brazen. I don't care. Do what you want? I want out. I haven't thought about it enough. But it might be I actually don't care anymore. You don't care what that if he plays or not, would you trade him? I wouldn't trade him. I would trade him. And you

know what, who's that on? If he doesn't play? Yeah I would, Now I would be doing it. I'd be very strict about what my expectations were, Like, if you're hurt, then you're gonna be a treatment, you're gonna be here, you're gonna do this, You're gonna do this, you're gonna go through the protocols. You're not getting paid or you're gonna get fine contact the detrimental the team or whatever. So I just make I'd be very strict on the

rules like anyone else. Expectation wise. I love the fact that they're not trading him though, because look, you can't allow that to happen. It changes the entire dynamic of your organization. Everybody who goes there's gonna have one or two good years. They're gonna want to get out. You can't do that. I can't let NFL players dictate where they can and can't plays. It doesn't work that way. So I got Stefan Digs doing it. This guy, no, you play for me, and that's it. Well, things got fine.

The vikings are going right after that. He didn't show up. He didn't show up for practice, and they're so what's gonna happen? So the results will come back whatever they are, and either he'll be right get right and play, or he's hurt and won't well. If the specialist says there's nothing wrong, then you gotta play. If the specialist comes back and says he has back issues, then you gotta

fix it, whether it's rehab or surgery. And basic specialist comes back and he has back issues, which it could be the case, then all the stuff that everybody's banging them on they're wrong. Right. And by the way, his value, his long term value, depending on what the back issue is, because having a back as an athlete as a young man is not good. If you're gonna miss time in your third with is this third year, fourth year, fourth year because the back issues, right, you gotta make sure

now that's not one. That's not one that's not to get out there to get out of something because you don't want anybody to know you have backage no play with like yeah, so we'll wait and see. I always try to give the players to benefit of doubt. The guy says he's hurt, he's hurt, So if Jalen's telling me he's hurt, he's hurt, I agree. He got to take him. Look everything he was sick, his wife had a baby, everything he said was accurate and true. You

gotta believe that he's hurt. I don't know anything else. If I come to find another information that he's jaking it, baking it, jaking it. I know I said jaking had been figure. Some people might not know what that means. So that means faking it. Um, have you never heard that before? You've for jaking it before, jakeing it. But you gotta be in a locker room to hear that. Tony JP has never been in one. Oh my gosh.

So if he's faking it, which at this time I have no reason to believe based on information, But if I find out he is, then then then what Yeah, No, I'll call him out on that. Oh he's faking if if it's a bad look, and I would lose respect because and you know what, I wouldn't want him on my team, but I still wouldn't trade it. All right, let's come back. Prior to each game entertained guests and air condition suite to the public's ultimate tailgate party presented

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then that's what you drink it. Welcome back. Um, We've got plenty to discussed in the second hour coming up a little bit. We'll have your social media questions, which Tony always looks forward to. And there's some doozies again tonight. I'll warn you. I will warn you. You should have heard some of the calls in the post game gives the first one out of the gate was fired Todd Wash Okay, yeah, and that's about what I said. That's he's responsible for. I mean, he's only had a top

six defense the last three years. Two weeks ago, he's a genius for second a guy nine times and now he wants fired. A guy was that Haye was calling in what were the other ones? This stuff like that, and then there's some people piling on norwell of course year yeah then I fired Hay. Yeah you did on this show. That's right. Well that means either because they're both still working. I was making a point, Pete, that's all I was doing. You didn't like it, he said

it was media on media crime. It was. He felt that it was uncalled for. He loved it. Don't lie, no, I the guy's entitled to his opinion. No he's not. It's wrong. Yeah, you always say they're entitled to their own wrong opinion. That's your that's your line. Don't share it on the radio if you don't if it's wrong, or in the media at crime. At least rock and see it. Yeah, I mean there were a few others,

like you know, there's some positives. But some people were like it was an exciting game and the Jags right at the end, which was cool. So there's it was a mixed last night. So can I see one thing about the end of the game. Real quick, you don't have to throw a hail Mary in that spot. You're on the twenty yard line to run a real play. Uh, I watched the replay. I would have done. I would have thrown their nineteen seconds left and you see it

all the time. I would have run two quick outs, like seven yard outs because they were giving that up. But after the off sides weren't Yeah, real play, you don't need to run a hail marriage. Weren't they all back in the end zone. They were literally all staying on the end zone. There was no real play to run. Then then run you know what you can do? Remember that play where teams ran him where they dump it down and the guys block. Those guys agree with that.

They could have done that. That would been interesting now of giving you a better chance. I mean, I just hail marys such a it didn't even reach well because the pressure we had pressure from camp yeah yard line on the last play. Yeah yeah, I say, I think, And that's a situation. You either run a real play or you run that play that being Tony were just talking about where you they're all back there, you just

dump it down and go block. Yeah, nineteen seconds left there at the thirty four yard line, and then they try to help Marry from there. From there, that's where I think you could have done like to seven yard outs, just get down to like the eighteen seventeen yard line. How much time was left when they used the time out.

That was a bad use of the time. I thought it was too early, But I think part of the problem was I didn't want and I said on the radio I wouldn't use it there because the defense was tired. You got him on the ropes, keep it going right, But it looked like the receivers we're a little bit asked, but that's you gotta go. And the offensive line cam was a little slow getting the line of screaming you gotta go, big man, come on, get that, get on

your horse, get back to the line of scrimmage. And that wasn't That was not a good last minute and twenty of the clock management at all. I wouldn't have called the time with their but they did. They had a chance to win it. So let's do this. How much time do we have? Okay, two minutes. We're gonna have two columns speak from the game yesterday. Positive, good, you liked, we learned, good for the future, Negative, worrisome, problematic, really bad because everyone calls in about the negative. So

we can do that. So the all buzz off the negatives real quick run fits, linebacker play, um, turned overs by the quarterback, UM getting blocked in the run game, and I can't get pressure with four guys. Those will be the negatives any anything else. Those are the main ones. Yeah, those are the negatives. I mean, and everyone because of that says, you know, cut Norwell, you're not gonna do that to dumb if you're if that's your take, don't

call it's dumb. Fire Todd wash another bad take, don't break, don't call it it's dumb. Uh. But those need to be fixed. Like if you have a take about one of those four things, like that's good, that's positive, like good fandom, like that's negative. You should Those need to be fixed. If they're not fixed're not gonna win football games. Let's talk about positives. Last ninety seconds, you go first Pete quarterback with no doubt. I don't care if you

turn the ball over on those fumbles. He's still positive the adamant position and maybe win the game. So I agree that because again I said it last week, two weeks in a row. Now we're down seven, we're down late, like you feel like you got a chance to win a football game because you have a quarterback that can operate. Else what number one receiver agreed? You have a stud. You have a stud in the development at wide receiver that you can build round that it can take the

top off, that can change a game. It will dictate coverage if he continues to play it this way? What else? Uh for net, I'll give him a positive. I mean, it wasn't great, but he was. You got to give him positive for that. I'm gonna sit change and I'm gonna say, run game. Second week in a row, they had a productive run game, run game? Anything else in twenty seconds? Nothing on defense? Right? Josh Allen continues to be positive. I think, oh, I don't I love the game.

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core dot com. Talk specifically about Andrew is that you know when when a guy has a bad play, it's gonna it's gonna be a really bad play, you know, saying people are gonna notice it and go, um, they don't notice all the good that happens during the game. A lot of times I've always said that before. I know that, Um, you know, and I was the line coaches still all the time. You can you can dominate someone for seventy plays, but give up three sacks and

it's the worst game you've ever played. But in saying that, I think I think that's a good illustration of what happened. I think that, uh, you know, when you have a bad play, it was. It was a really bad play, and I'm sure Andrew would want it back like we all would. That Coach Duck Marone this afternoon discussing Andrew Norwell and the offensive line means where you have it

especially Welcome back, second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco rehashing the Jaguars loss in Week five in Carolina yesterday. The Jaguars are now two and three and were in third place in the a f C South. A little later, we'll recap all the a f C South games, will go around the National Football League and look at the A f C South standings will also get your social media questions. Yes, Tony basically was saying exactly what I said, correct, So you must

listened to the coach early. He listened to me because I said it before him. I said this morning. Dogs are smart man, obviously, because what he said is dead on. It's one play. It's terrible play. That's all anyone wants to talk about. Because they don't watch the game. They watched highlights, they watch the skill guys. They don't know what the offensive line does, and so they see that one bad play, the flash play. It's bad and they want to kill the guy. They don't know what they're

talking about. It was a bad play, and I know that he did, probably thought about it a lot yesterday. And you never want to give give up a sack, never want to give a sack fumble, especially I've done both. Never want to give a sack fumble touchdown. I've never had the opportunity of doing that one um. And uh, it's a weird thing about that Tony Easy getting bull rushed by a defensive end because he's worried about the

speed it can happen. So he's high as hands are outside because he's worried about the elusiveness of of Addison. So you play high and you set high, and you're bad hands because you're just trying to grab him because you know if you get your hands on him, it's over. And Addison does a good job. He gets his hands right in between the shoulder on both numbers, has better leverage,

and he pushes him back because Norwell's off balance. If he doesn't get him, does the ball get out because it looks like Burns is getting It looks like tried to chop Burns and he didn't chop them. The ball gets out, The ball is out, no one else is close. Yeah, yeah, Burns is. He tried to cut him and he didn't cut him, but he wasn't gonna get there. It's over. So it's a bad play. But I mean, watch the game. That's certainly not on the quarter by the way, it

looked like Keithley might intercepted that anyway. Maybe yeah, because you see him jumping in speaking interceptions. It wouldn't have been there have been no end of game clock management issue. If Bradberry just caught a ball at him right between the two and the four, that's that's the one that d D ran into him. Right, But you know, we were just talking about how you were just saying how

smart Doug is everything. Their clock management the end of the games isn't in Their situational management isn't very good at the end of game. You you talk about this all the time around the league too. This is not just that's bad across the board. Well, at the end of the example terrible clock manage. Give me an example, should use the time out with a minute nine left? Well, you because it was a minute too. You were there.

If everyone's exhausted, can't breathe, you call time out? Okay, Well then you don't have any well okay, they were They felt like their guys were what was it? What down was that JP? When he downs? They just got a first down? Spike it? Then timeout is more valuable than the down. Yeah, they had just gotten up to the thirty one yard line. Yes, and then at the end of the game in the Texans I I followed them for that they should have gone for two. Okay,

but that's like, that's part of that's game management. We got to take into account how the game is flowing. The game was flowing defensively, it wasn't an offensive game. You just scored you had I'm not gonna argue. I agree with you. I wouldn't have gone for two either. That they had just got to the forty two yard line. Attention, there was eleven yard game then they called time out. I mean that's fair. I would I mean clock there would have been fine. And he's like, I wouldn't time

I got give an example. There was a score late I can't remember where the game it was, and they went up seven. They went up seven. You don't kick it extra point, you go for two to make it not We talked about this, you and I all the time. Pete. When this happens, go for nine, they're not gonna go for two to beat you at and if you get the nine. In general, when did the Jags do that? Oh? They did, but there was a team I can't remember

his team did it. But all these coaches boxed the end of For everybody who has analytics, guys all over the universe, now they still can't handle the end of games. It's fair. And by the way, the analytics crowd out there. And I know the Jaguars are big and analytics and Tony Khan is I love Tony to death. Like I told Tony though, when you guys could tell me that a fourth and an inch is the same as a fourth and forty inches, don't come talk to me because

they're not the same play. But on the stat sheet, how do they look on the statue more than one? Yeah, it's true. M there you go. That's right, it's they listen. I think there's a combination. There's a place for analytics. It's a combination of analytics and flow of game. And just that you just hit a spot on Tony big flow of game matters. You can't just look at the numbers. You need it all. You need the numbers. The numbers are critical and help you. I'm a big numbers guy,

big big numbers guy. Believe in the numbers. I like numbers too. I'm a big numbers guy. I like data. I want I want all data. I want as much information as I possibly can to help me make a decision based on the flow of the game. But if I hand you data, just raw data, it doesn't take into account flow of the game. That's right. Numbers are numbers. Are we disagreeing on something? We agree? Most numbers guys won't agree with us on that they're hard, fast and steadfast.

On the numbers say to go for it, and that's not necessarily true. Like at the two point play in Houston, it seems like a flow of the game decision. No,

that's a decision. If you look at the analytics, it's actually fifty fifty because it's actually you know, if you took all if you if you have for two every time or went from uh an extra point every time, and you look at the conversions of h two point conversions and the conversion of kicking the field goal or the extra point, it's literally about the same exact statistical

you know, uh percentage of points you're gonna score. But in this situation, it wasn't at two games, so it was a game, so so so you look at that, so okay, it's a coin flip. At that point, you now go into situation and flow of the game. A lot of people say, on the road, you go and

try to win it because you're on the road. I don't buy that as much because what does it matter when you're on the road or at home, or if you're the underdog, try to go win it, because if you play over time, the better team is typically gonna gonna win. Well, here's one to Tony. Okay, hold on, but before before I go to this pelet's what I would look at is the flow that Individu Jewel game and you had a game where they couldn't move the ball,

they had one touchdown off a turnover. You have a better kicking game because of Lambo, and in your offense, just put together a nice drive. She gets some momentum, so it's a coin flip when you get the ball first or not. But let's say you lose the coin flip and they get the ball first. I'm putting a lot of money at they're not getting more than three points out of a drive, meaning you have another shot and you might have a shot them getting nothing and

all you need is three. It's just like a fourth and seven play from the three yard line is not the same or third and seven play from the three yard lines not the same as a third and seven play I'm talking about from your own three yard line, not the same as a third and seven play from the forty three. Right that you all you gotta do is look at the way teams play it. That's not the same thing. But on the statue it says third and seven, correct, not the same. You know you've been

backed up on your own end zone. You know what that's like back there when you're backed up on third and long. Situational football matters, but numbers and what you do with the numbers matter too, So I think there's a place for both. Well, here's here's a number. I don't care what the data says. Don't call your last time out with a minute nine left in the game. There's a minute whatever it is, don't call the last time out. How did let's go back to offensive line?

That was the topic at the top of the show here today. Um, outside of Norwell, that's we've debated that old day. Here, there's no debate. I knew that was what it is. It is what it is. I knew that was coming. I walked into that one. How did the tackles play? How did Cam Robinson play? For you? Tony Well, I can't was physical? Um, he he got soft a little bit on his set, meaning he's a vertical setter, which I'm fine with. I'd like a little bit more wid than his set than just straight vertical.

But that's a that's a nuance. But he he's gotta stay. He's gonna say square a little bit longer. He's dropping in the bucket with that backfoot and creating a short corner. Now he's strong enough and physical enough and big enough to get away with it at times, but he really squeezes the pocket on minshew and and that makes it tougher. But he's physical. I think he's continues to get better. He looked like he, uh, his shape was a little bit better, his wind and everything. So he needs to

clean that up. I think Juwan Taylor is that coaching Tony or is that just him? That's it's bad. It's a habit. Oh wow, my phone just turned on doing Uh yeah, it's a bad habit. He's gotta wrap it out. That means like, for example, when he's when he if he's taking his his set, his feet have to get his left foot has to get wider. He's gotta say square and you want to, you want to, I would try to create a little bit more width as you're going getting deaf list. And he has a very good

offensive line coach. So it's not like George's I mean, George's teaching him the right stuff. Right, you just got hett of it just reps. It's reps. He had that issue last year. It's getting better better than last year. That's good. Um. I really like the right tackle. I think Jowan Taylor's gonna be stud in this league. Physical, good technique, good feet, good hand. I mean, he played well and he's the right tackle, right He's never going to be the guy that goes to the left side

right now. Yeah, well he has some feet now like he's he's athletic. I mean, I'm not saying he couldn't do it. He's a good right tackle though. I like him a lot. Uh Can Richardson both played good. I mean they played solid and Norwell played well. I'm gonna go back to the numbers. Let's just talk numbers because I don't want to bore everyone with you know, you know, technique and nuances and they get to the next level. And how are the double teams because it's all good

at times really good. And the way you know that is if you block the best pass rush and give up two sacks and one hit on fifty one dropbacks, actually I'm sorry, fifty three dropbacks, that's pretty dangn goods unit that came in with fourteen sacks the last two weeks and on the road. Really good. If you rush for one forty on a team, that's pretty dang good. If you have over five and on yards of total offense on the fourth rated defense in the NFL, that's

pretty good. If you score twenty seven, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty dang good. So my point is the offensive line played winning football. A couple of players you want to clean up. Noral is gonna have the big one that he's gonna lose sleep over. It's part of football, it's part of life. Goes h and we'll come back. Get ready. Social questions from earlier today, there's a bad one, ridiculous ones. Yeah, there's some things we've touched up, will

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me that helps me every day. You know, I just think, uh, Chris, I think Keith, you know, because he's because he's always there for me. But like I said, these these guys never given up on me, even last year. You know, man outside you know, uh you know, had they come as the guys in his locker room never doubted me. So I want to say surprised d J Chuck Jr. In the locker room yesterday in Carolina after his fantastic performance a couple of touchdowns and a huge yardage day

against the Panthers. Welcome Back Jaguar's Happy r j P Shattered with Tony Boselli Pete Priscoe. It's time now, gentlemen, for social media questions your favorite Pete. You love it too, I know, right, Oh yeah, because it gets him so fired up. He's already fired up today. I don't know how much more fired up he can be. Ye, ask a Norwell question, you'll get him fired up. It's coming.

Stand by number one though from Riley Underscore Kendrick. I'm sure you touch on this earlier in the show, but what is with the run defense, whether it's McCaffrey or his back up. We couldn't stop anything. The question though, where do we go from here? Now? One for this defense guys, I mean, you gotta just clean up the run fits, but you gotta be better. Um, there's no one coming in to fix it, meaning like there's no like miraculous Superman. You're gonna go sign off, you know,

the waiver wire. I think it starts at linebackers like Myles Jack and Quincy Williams have to be better. Quincy Williams get benched. Miles Jack, in my opinion, was wildly out of position at times and was not at his best. And I think he's played great football lest uh oh year to start the season. Um, he can be better, I think, And I you know, look, I thought Myles was going to be a star this year. I thought he would break out last year. It didn't happen. Um,

he's got to play better. And I love the kid, but he's got to be better. And Quincy Williams his head spinning till he is at what that is. I think I think he saw I think he saw things for the first time in his life Sunday with Christie McCaffrey, and he got a little overwhelmed. And he explained it to me in the locker room this week because I had the question, you know, how different is this challenge than opposed to a Derrick Henry, who's a downhill freight

train type of guy. All he said, well, Henry's between the tackles. He likes to get outside. But you know you're gonna go hit the guy. He's not gonna shake you really too much. This guy can shake you. You gotta kind of go up careful and have a lot of guys around. If you go too careful that you gotta go take a shot at him. He used to be with Barry Sanders. Go take your shot because if you come up and try to break down, he's quicker

than you and more elusive. You're not tackling him. Is they'll always take your shot with guys like that, And and Quincy Williams didn't do it. Yeah, so there you have a question Number two, Samuel of Duvall, can we start talking about the draft? Nor question is that they're be drafting thirty second even when they're playing poorly at certain times a year. But Sell he still won't talk about the draft. Remember right when they were oh and whatever, oh and nine, I don't remember that. Let's go on

a while ago. Move on social question number three, Luker underscore. Can you see the coaches moving Miles Jack outside when Jake Ryan comes back. Well, it's interesting because Doug Maron was asked about Jake Ryan today, where's Jake Ryan? And he was the off season acquisition from the Packers coming off an a c L injury, and he had a setback in the off season and he's on the non football injury life. I've never seen Jake Ryan in my life here. If he walked in here, I don't know

if I could point him out. I have no idea what he looks like unless I went and looked on the Packers media guide. Well, Doug Marron was asked about him today and said, I don't know. I haven't asked. I have no idea. So it doesn't seem like jacko Bolo the money to be a middle linebacker. He's not going anywhere. No, No, He's gotta play better. So Jake Ryan's not walking through that door Jake Ryan. Nowhere is Jack Ryan, Jake or Jack or his brother Jack? Does

he have one? I don't know. You're not getting the Jack Ryan star Jack Ryan, the CI agent that like saves the world. What what are you talking about? Joe? Yeah? Help me out here? Am I right? Joe? I mean? Are you? Are you an idiot? I mean Pete? You know what I meant there? Right? Thank you? Doesn't Matt Damon play him? No? Uh no, the guy from the office plays him? Oh, Steve Correll. No, I know you're talking about Steve Correll. You know what I'm talking about.

I know exactly, I know exactly what you're talking I don't know what the actor's name is, but he's good. It's it's Pam's boyfriend. Yes, what movie is this? Jack? You've never seen Jack Ryan. You've never seen the You never read the books? No? Are you kidding me? What's the author? Joe? The Jack Ryan author? I've read his books, Tom Clancy, him Clancy. You've never read in Tom Tom Clancy is I've never He's the He's like the character like Red Hunt for Red October. I've seen that movie. Okay,

Jack Ryan is in Hunt for Red October. I didn't know that. I didn't realize this. And now now on Amazon Prime, which is a I can say that because they're a sponsor of the NFL has they already have one season of Jack Ryan. Now the second season is coming out like he's like a c I get saves the world. So when I said Jack Ryan's not walking through the door, I mean there's no one coming to save the day. Well that makes more sense now, thank you. It's not as good if I have to explain it

to you. Are you sure that the guy from the office plays him? I don't think he does. What's his name, Joe John Frazinski Ki, I thought it was No, it is Pete. I've watched the fifty times. You might be right. I thought payed him. Chris Who Chris Pine? No, you're ready thinking the movies. There's movies a bit. No, I'm talking about the show on Amazon Prime that plays Jack Ryan. Oh I haven't seen that one. I'm sorry. Let's move along, please.

Social question number four from Chris Pine, doogie do? What should the main concern for next week's game against New Orleans be Camara in the running game or Thomas in the passing game? Oh? Dear, the defense. I'd worry about that. First of all, it's the defense. That Saints defense is really good. Obviously Camara is good. They have a good offensive line. This is a good team and Teddy Bridgewater is getting better. It was good yesterday through four touchdown passes.

He looked good yesterday. So it starts. Sean Payton's, by the way, right now, would be the coach of the year in my mind. Fair enough, So I think it's all the above. How about that you remember that the S A T test like you have a is it this? Is it? Be this? See this and then like d all the above. But if you had to stop when you stop Camara Camara on offense and then take care of the front and seven on defense or the front seven. Next question from that guy Tyler, is it time to

bench Norwell, he's our weakest link in the old line. Also, what happened on the first bubble? Was it intended for the tight end fullback or was it meant for for net? Which one? First it was meant for four net that's on Minshew number one. And no you're not benching. Uh. That's a couple of people today, guys that have asked. You know, obviously it's not gonna happen. You've explained why.

But why not move richardson the left card, you know, and leave Cannon right guard and get Northwhell out of there. That's crazy, right, Yeah, No, no he did. He had a bad play. I saw another one where I had somebody asked, move can the center play Richardson and move Linder to the left guard. No, you're not doing that this year. Now. Maybe now I'll say this after the season, like,

based on how the season goes, maybe you go to restructure. Well, it's contract, he doesn't want to, Okay, then move on. Now you have Cannon Richardson, but not right now, No, nor Wells. You're starting left guard. As long as he's healthy, he's playing. I mean, he had a terrible play. I get it, But you have to go look at the entire fans look at it. They think they overpaid for him. They're not getting banks for the book. That's what they're looking at. But that's not how you have to if

you're a coach, that's not what you're doing, Pete. You put your best five out there trying to win football games. You're not talking to talking to the fans. Well, I'm trying to tell them it's dumb. If he plays poorly, which I don't think he's played poorly. He had a poor play, then yes, the opportunity is to move Will Richardson over there. Sure, that's an opportunity, but he hasn't played poorly. He's just starting to remind me of Luke

Joco again. M hmm, different situation, Pete different. I'm go off the board here, um and get another social just came in. Actually, who is in the tight end room now? Depth chart with the A C L injury for O'shanna. Well, here's an interesting thing. Just an hour ago, the Patriots cut Ben Watson. Do you do you pick him up? Yes? I go get him. Yes, he can still move, he can still run. I didn't ask you that. How old is yeah? Yeah, so yeah, I go get him. I

go get him right away. Just got released. But he's gonna have a clear waivers who I don't know where you're sitting in that process. Probably middle of the pack right now. He's thirty eight years get him. You need help right now. Who's in the rooms? Wayne Swayne Oliver might be coming back, you don't know, Seth DeValve Valve Swain. And there's a practice squad Chrystal Charles Jones and then Salvin Salvin Dane Valvin Dane about and Swain, Jeff Swain,

Josh Oliver, Charles Jones on the practice squad. Charles Jones, I mean, are you gonna bring him up from the practice squad? Right? I think, yeah, bring him up. But I still think i'd look at Ben Ben Watson. I don't know how much work here. I don't how much he has left in him. I haven't watched them all, but came across Twitter. Joe's looking at me like crazy, Is he's still on the roster? Joe, No, no, but I said didn't he didn't he have a touchdown here?

Ben Watson Super Bowl a long time ago, the Patriot. He wasn't playing in two thousand three, sixteen years ago. Five. Yeah, yeah, maybe he was. Yeah, he's older, but he can still play. I think it's worth a look. He's better than nobody. I don't think coming back. I don't think it sounds like he's practicing. Last week he was limited some I want to make this head though. Why are you shaking your head, Tony? You don't think Number one, he's not

a blocking tight end. Number two, he's a rookie. He's never played in the game and missed all training camp. Number three, all those things add up to me, be me being concerned of us counting on him to replace O'Shaughnessy, as Ron Middleton put it to me in the pregame interview this week on radio. Yeah, it hasn't even been in a damn scrimmage yet. Yeah. I mean he's done nothing. I mean nothing. I'm not going to count on him Camp. Yeah. Uh, there you have a social media questions are in. Thank

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Colts knocked off the Chiefs nineteen thirteen. We'reset kind a rushing touchdown Marlon Mack ran the ball at Vinitary, was perfect in field goals and the Colts come away with a big win last night, Pete, what in the world happened in Kansas City? Well, a couple of things happened to Kansas City. A Watkins went out early in the game, the left guard got hurt. Mahomes was gepping around on a bad ankle. Uh, they don't have Tyreek Hill and the Colts defense played pretty well, and then and they

ran the ball on them. They get their backup left tackle too. What's that? Eric Fisher's out to the back. Cameran can't play at left tackle, so they don't look They have a look right on offense the last two weeks. Think about it. He has one touchdown pass in the last two weeks. One um listen, I said there would be three three and two teams because I thought we would be one of them. There's two. I just missed. I thought the Titans would beat the Bills and the

Chiefs would beat the Colts. So that was wrong. The Texans over the Falcons. Falcons are done. It's over. They're done. Are they gonna make a coach and change that's a question. And and Look, here's the other thing about yesterday. Tony Deshaun Watson got the ball out of his hands. That's the first. Yeah, he was quick with the ball getting on his hands and Will Fuller win us. No DeAndre Hopkins though, Oh he's happened a rough goal. He hasn't

been doing a lot lately. It's weird. We all the coverage goes to him, and I think Will Fullers taking advantage of it. They play at Arrowhead this week. The Titans look bad yesterday. Yeah, defense is good. Bills are very good, really really good. They shut down the Patriots. They and then you know, I expected them um to play well against the Times, but I thought, I mean the Times miss four field goals. They make those four field goals as a different game obviously. Well, they got

rid of their kicker today. They caught them a lot of times. Signing Cody Parkey. Yeah, that's not great. A lot of talk between Taylor of the Juan and some of the Bills defenders ye Jack Lawson and Phillips and Jordan Phillips, who, by the way, Jordan Phillips was outstanding yesterday. Outstanding. They couldn't block him. Miami getting's Miami got rid of him. Remember, Yeah, So after yesterday's action, here's a look at the ANFC

South standings. Houston leads away three and two, Indian three and two, both are one and o in the division, the Jags two and three, one and one in the division, and Tennessee at the botto two and three and oh and two in the a f C South. That said, gentlemen, would you like to provide your a f C South Howard rankings? Though they don't matter, the standings are the only thing that do. Pete, would you like to get

a started? Beat your first? Yeah, I'll go first. I'll put the Texans number one, the Colts number two, the Jaguars number three, and the Titans number four. I'm going, Uh, I'm going Colts number one. They beat the Chiefs, they beat one of the best two teams in the f C on the road in Arrowhead, which and I believe that the uh they lost at home last week to the doesn't matter week by the Raiders, and I think the Chiefs are gonna beat the Texans this week. So

I'm going Colts, Texans, Jags, Titans. I mean it's clo. Don't get me wrong, you are wrong. So I will get you wrong because you're wrong. Okay, well after next week it will because I think I agree with you. I think the Chiefs will beat the Colts in the Texas this week. Who are the Colts have this week? I think they're on the They're on the by Are you sure about that? I think so that's correct. They're not on the schedule. Who do the Titans have the

bye two? The Titans have the Broncos in Denver. That could be another loss. Titans are very good. So next week, I see, um, listen, I said early in the show, must say that now we're gonna win the next three games. And that's a lock, a winning streak of three in a row. You know, that's a triple lock. I mean it's the first ever triple lock in the history of

the show. I think they're gonna win this week. I think the saintso a little full of themselves, and and I still think that the Jaguars defense will finally start to show up. Um, And I think they'll win next week and then the week after frankly in London, and if they beat the Texas in London, they probably be in first place. Frankly, I'm shocked I've never given the

triple lock before, but it's a powerful. Okay, if you give about the triple lock that gets him to one five, there'll be five and three after the triple You've already locked the second Titans game that gives him the six, so they only probably only need to win three more games and have them be in the playoffs for your your locked Luckways, don't he think about it. We're only starting. Listen. The triple lock is brand new, has never been put

out before. I double locked the Titans game. So that's done. Um, and locked this one too this week. By the way, Well that's that's we forgot about that. We move on, Pete. Oh, so that luck was broken? It was the key was found. He locked, Yeah, he did. He locked it if he comply forgot to say that. They sniffed it off like a storage locker. They found the keys. Unfair. Um, the triple lock. Let's focused on the future. Um, we got

the triple lock. It's in place. After they beat the Saints, be haired for the second triple lock in the history. By the way, the schedule spunky now at Raiders looks like it might be a tougher game you thought out at Falcons might not be a tough game at the end of the year. Glad Raiders is the last game ever in the Colosseum. Anyway, you're looking way too far ahead. I mean, I can't go to look ahead you. I'm going by your triple locks. I just sweet. I mean,

you're going to the end of the year. I just do a triple lock. I mean you should. If I'm saying it's you triple locked it and you lost the Titans game, that's four wins. That gives them, That gives them the six you need to start looking at the schedule. If you get three more and you got the Falcons, and you got the Raiders, and you got Bucks coming in the town, you got a chance. You got that's nine. Maybe you're gonna playoffs. Pete, could you at least respect

triple lock and not go look that far ahead. I agree with your triple lock, so so really, but I can't figure out his wife's firing a gun for the triple lock something. He said, This is history if you think about it, because I gave the triple lock, and then Pete verified the triple locks. So it's really a double triple lock that we've never had that it's a guarantee just given the wins, we don't need even play, need to play the games. And if it happens that way,

they can't take Minshew out of the lot. I still think it comes down to Houston. They win the next three, it goes to Houston, and it will determine whether Mints show's I wouldn't I'm with you, Pete, but I think the Houston game and when does when does Bowls come back? I think the bye week is it's bye week, but it would be the week after is when that would be the soonest he could be back. We haven't had a medical update on him. That's the first time he

actually could play. Yeah, you won't play that week. I don't think. Well, then if they win that game and they went and their seven and three, then you're not changing yeah, because you all gonna do is win like two more to get in right, it's not it's over. So if they if they go seven, if they get to seven and three doesn't come out, and then then what do you do with foals? He backs up. He's the most highest made backup in the history of the NFL. Wow,

that would be incredible. The question is what do you do next year? That's what it gainst tricky this year. I don't think that we're not talking about next year yet. It's only October. What what happens if they got in the postseason and the kid made a little run. You can't take him out. He's the starter. You got to trade him. Tad falls by the way, Trailers wish they had Josh Dobbs back. Now, how about that, let's come back.

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We're on the home stretch of Jaguars Happy Hour. JP shattered Tony was Sally Pete Prisco Well, you just touched on the a FC South. He took your social media questions. Earlier in the program, we dissected the Jaguars offensive line and Tony support of Andrew Norwell left guard. The Jaguars run defense. We've found fixes for that and figured out that you can't turn the ball over three times and win.

We've done all that in this program. It's been a full show, but it's not over until we go around the National Football League and recap all the games from week five. Before we get to the games, the first coaching casualty Pete Jay Gruden's out in Washington. Yeah, and this was one of those situations j P when you're talking about the owner and the coach weren't on the same page. Remember he was forced to draft Wayne Haskins. The staff and the football personnel people didn't want them.

Bruce Allen Dan Snyder did. Now they're itching to play them. They're own five. It was an easy way to get rid of them. I think it's and Bill Callahan takes over and he said he's not going to play him this week, but it's only a matter of time before. Who who did Gruden want supposedly Daniel Jones. Well, they

weren't picking high enough. They could have made a move to go again him if they really wanted him that much, you know, So my favorite And I didn't see if I read it on Twitter, So I hope I'm not getting it wrong. So it on the internet, it must be true because Twitter sometimes can mislead you. But basically that Bruce Allend, the what is the vice president president of the team, whatever his time is, said they do

not have a cultural problem in Washington. Well, I mean, then why you're firing the coach if there's not a goldural problem and not on the coach, Well, how about the whole how about how about the recent history of this franchise? And he said he's the one who's been responsible for it, right, I mean, I think they do have an issue. Let's get to the games now, Cardinals over the Bengals, Cardinal of the battle of winless team.

What about Byron Leftwich for that job? It's two early, Pete, Like I saw you say that, I'm not saying it's not the right one, but let the team play out right. I don't know if that'll be his job anyways, because you just can you go in there and I mean he's gonna work for Dan Slider. I don't know right now. Let's not kid ourselves. The Buccaneers are two and three. It's not like they're lightening up the but the offense is playing good. Okay, I think Buying will be a

head coach. I'm with you there, but it might just be a little Cardinals gotta win in the battle of winless teams. Cardinals over the Bengals. Uh there, who cares? I mean that bad football? Tyler Murray better yesterday. Will give me his numbers. Kyler Murray ran for a touchdown. He lighting three yards. He was twenty of thirty two passing to fifty two and ran for ninety three yards. I mean, he had a good games, good game. What do you want? That's what they just that's how he

designed the thing. Little man. He looks so little when he's out there. Yeah he's small on the Bengal stink. Yeah, Jack's at the Bengals. In a couple of weeks, Saints over the Buccaneers thirty. Teddy Bridgewater went wild in that game. Yeah, that one. I thought the Bucks would win. Um the way they've been playing, but Pete said it. Sean Payton coach of the year so far earlier in this year. What they're doing, he's been phenomenal. Think about they look

at the runday a little bit. They Seattle right one at Seattle with Teddy Bridgewater, beat the Cowboys with Teddy Bridgewater, and then and now just beat the books. I mean, he's coach of the year right now. So it's gonna be a tough matchup they're coming to town, but I look forward to it. They have really good players, by the way, Michael Thomas Chimera, that offensive line is, the defensive is a bunch of studs right now. You have

at um every level. You have good players on that defense Geordan Davis and Lattimore and then even the back Marcus Williams is playing great at safety. Yeah, they're a good team. They're a good team. Thomas yesterday two yards receiving an eleven catches, two touchdowns. I mean, he's no dj K, but they better hope. They better hope. Jalen has a real good healer with that back. They need him. I don't. I don't see Jalen playing. No, no, really

do get inside information. I have zero, and that he's healthy. The specialist is like, hey, you're healthy. Right, my gut says he's not playing. I hope I'm wrong and I have no inside information, zero, just my gut. I have a gut. I saw it big right now, vikings over the Giants to ten. The Vikes get it done. When is uh se Kwan coming back? Pete? I doubt he plays this week? They played Thursday night. Yeah, I know I'm doing the game. You're doing the game. I'd be

shocked if he plays Thursday night. I wouldn't play him then to get an extra ten days then he could come back down. Yeah, I wouldn't play him either. But I'm looking forward to seeing that Giant's team with Daniel Jones and s Kwon Berkeley. Keep it high on that young receiver from Auburn, Slayton. He's starting to make plays. I liked him when I saw him in the spring. Gallum, the gallum, the backup. Uh he had the concussion or something. They're down to the third back, so they got she

was I can't I mean, and here's the thing. They're going to New England. Bill Belichick, what I'll give you each of Guess what what is his record against rookie quarterbacks at home in Foxboro? And oh yeah, cheated owns them. Yeah it's not even close. He's seventeen and five all time. By the way, Kirk Cousins, the passing game got called out and he responded. But of course it wasn't a big game, right, not a big game. He always plays well in the game. Is not a big game this week?

They got the Eagles. Big games. See how you do this week? Kirk speaking of the Eagles, him out, that's right, that's everybody out the selling. No, you're scared. Speaking of the Eagles defense, they scored a couple of times and not big game is gaze one and done? No, but the gent who's gonna win? Who would win with the garbage they got on the field there? You would really Raiders over the Bears in London at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, first NFL game in that facility. Look great on TV.

It did look nice on TV, really nice. But again the Bears and what this is what they can look at Chase Daniels darting for Jabinski. That's not why they lost. The Raiders beat him up up front. That defense is supposed to be dominant. They Jacobs ran wild, you remember a hundred and thirty yards or whatever, scored twice. They beat him. They didn't him near Derek Carr. They just dominated him up front. That's the Bears defense. That's on them.

Ravens over the Steelers. Three Mason Rudolph knocked out on the field. The cart to get him off the field malfunctioned, so they had to basically walk him off the field. Um, but he won't remember any of it anyway. It's a bad look. He's walking off the field with no face mask on. Not a good look. Did you see the hit? Oh my god, right in the chin, I mean and out before he hit the ground. Oh he was, He was out immediately, and I mean he he didn't think

he was gonna get up. And they have to cart him off but there was no car and then then then they got him off. But the kid came in and played well, the kid from Sandford, he did some nice things. Was it was it a legal hit? No? I got him in the chin, like in the in the helmet, not legal. Yeah, why it hit him in the helmet? Was he a runner or was he in the pocket? He was throwing the ballot, I didn't know. It's all over Twitter. You look at it. You've been

on your on your phone in the last three segments. When, by the way, they did a good, great job on Lamar Jackson, the Steelers did. He was very he was average, blow average yesterday three three interceptions in a fumble, Yeah, he was below average. He killed me in fantasy. Jujus Schuster, by the way, fumbled and over time they had a chance to go get the winning points and he fumbled and then the Ravens turned into field goal. The way to go. Patriots are going to the Super Bowl? Aren't

they beat the Waltz? It's a wolf who's beating them the If the Chiefs are healthy, they can. Chiefs aren't beating him at with that defense at New England. Sorry, not happening. Well, listen, Pete, I don't want to burst your bubble, but they're not going sixteen and oh Patriots, Well, I mean they play the Chiefs, don't they later in the year in New England. If they beat the Chiefs, that's two. They'll be two up on them, and then you're gonna win. That's Week fourteen. They're not gonna win.

They might be going undefeated. To look at their schedule, it's not that hard looking at it right now, Giants, Jets, Brown's Ravens. Bye week, Ravens can beat I'm glad. Where's the Ravens game at It's in Baltimore game they could be. They won't lose that game. Then a bye week, and then at Philly they can lose that game home against Cowboys. They can lose that game. At Houston, they can lose that game home against the Chiefs. They never lose to Houston.

They're not losing that one. They could lose five games. They're going on. They're gonna lose two games and they're gonna beat the Chiefs and the Chiefs will lose. Literally just said something. There's two different things. In the same sense. You said they're going undefeated, they're gonna lose two games. I didnfe they will lose two games and they will go fourteen and two. They will beat them, They will beat the Chiefs, and the Chiefs will have to go

to New England. And said they'll be undefeated and they'll lose two games. No, they're going Look they're going to the super Bowl again. It's a Waltz. I agree with that. Broncos over the Chargers, Broncos first win of the year. Chargers dropped their third. Chargers have to many injuries. It's too much amazing how many injuries. Day now they might be without Mike Fouancy and a neck injury yesterday wrent out of the game. Literally half their team is hurt.

Why does that always happen to that? Why? I don't know. But they're not gonna win it. I don't think they're wearing much this year. No. Packers over the Cowboys THT. Jones had shot rushing touchdown. That was the shocker. How many did Zekiel Elliott run for? Because I watched that Packard defence the week before against the Eagles, they couldn't have stopped Pete and I Zeke ran for sixty or two yards on I watched the game. He got a

lot of it later. I watched the game and I but I couldn't really tell without watching the tape whether he finally put another bigger player on the field. Tony. You saw him get gassed. They were playing that that small little defense they were playing with the dime linebacker. The station killed. And by the way, that Darius Smith was phenomenal yesterday, just dominated up front. They beat they beat, They beat the Cowboys line pretty good. Now there wasn't

no Tyron Smith. So you gotta back to that in as well. You mean you mean Jack Mark got beat one time. Oh here we go, Benjamin defend well again, Benjam. You need to Benjam Benjam Ben Jack Martin the backup right guard in his place. Jack Prescott averages average could be in the last two weeks, still talking about paying him thirty five million dollars. Everybody, you gonna pay him, to pay him thirty to remember, remember he's not gonna

take the deal. Prices going up every game, well the last two games gone down, but you have to pay him. If your Dallas a franchise deal, you have to. Of course they would pay him thirty and he was gonna go to thirty five. Now, yeah, that's that's a good thing. You're having our look around the National Football League in Week five. One more question, sorry, Pete, who's the best quarterback? Give me the top five quarterbacks in the NFL right now,

rank them. Go. Mahomes is number one. Wilson is number two. Wow, that is breaking news. Pete Briscoe said, Russell Wilson is the second best quarter at the NFL. And he's turned. He's turned the corner. Hated him a couple of years. You still say he leaves the pocket too much, but that's his game. I still say he leaves yes, But you know what, I still think that the Seahawks and let him play faster more than they do. Hurry. Okay, so Russell wills to keep going? Uh? Three would be

three is tough. Rogers is still three. You're not playing that great, but he's three. Who's four? Right? Watson? Watson's gotta be up there? No Mitchus five? Five mitshe I'll take mitshe were wins won't Yeah, I will? Okay, get the Eagles just called for trade? Would you take? Straight up? You get Wench for Minshew? Want? I got mine? He's a mustus bro. Oh my god, it's time now for

Monday Night football. The Cleveland Browns are the NFL's darlings of the off season, but the inconsistency has plagued them early in At two and two, they make a West Coast road trip to face the last unbeaten team in the NFC, the San Francisco forty Niners, and they're highly paid but not quite elite yet, but maybe could be quarterback Jimmy Garoffalo who you got tonight in Santa Clara right now? The forty Niners have one of the best

defenses in all football. Their defensive coordinator old linebacker coach here for the Jaguar stala Um. I like the forty Niners. It's in Santa Clara. The forty Nights are coming off of bye. I don't like to buy the Monday night that's weird. But I think they absolutely hammer the Browns tonight. I'm I agree with you, Tony. I think that defense will be all over Baker Mayfield. They will not let Nick Chobb run. And you know what, there's an exte

coach who actually has his linebackers. They actually played their run fifths. Wow, shot shot taken shot by Pete Friscoe. Here you have it, So Pete, you agree, min the fifth best quarterback in the league. I expect you to put it on CBS. Minshu Mania is a great thing for the city of Jacksonville, though it's a great thing nationally. Do you see phil Simms came down and interviewed him on the NFL today. He's been all over the national broadcast the last couple of weeks. He's great. It's all

on the ball in the pocket. If it just end this to it would be so negative. Pete. Not gonna end, Pete, you don't he if he if he plays well, he staying. But what happens if it just ends and folds comes back and then like five years from now, every day go remember that little four games, little run when the Gardner Minshew was the Minshew mania. You're so negative, grow a mustache, but a jockstrap on. Come back to people. Talk to you. Pete Priscoe, Senior writer, CBS Sports. Tony

was Selly pride of the Jaguars left tackle. You've heard of him for our entire crew. I'm j P. Shadrick Trent. We'll see you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network

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