Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 14

I'm playing hurt today. And Pete Prisco is down in Fort Lauderdale. What's up, Pete? How are we doing? What's what's the matter. I'm not trying to be funny when I'm about to say this, so don't think I'm trying to be funny. Well, what's wrong? I hurt my back? Come on, give me my word. I was working out this morning lifting weights and uh I got a spasm my lower back and it's just killing me. Come on, what are you talking about? Oh, this has nothing to

do with jailings. Your expansion draft coming up? He did that one, Solli, you were lifting weights? Yeah, why would you do such a thing. By the way, man, you're too old for that. I know that's obvious because I hurt myself. What did you hurt your lower back? Lower back? Just it's like and then I had to go playing this charity golf thing. Oh struggle, I left. So you uh, it's hard to breathe, right, you're having a trouble breathing. Well, it's not. It's just uncomfortable. It's not like I've had

bad back spasms where like you can't either move. This is just like very uncomfortable. Well, are you lifting more since you sent Since JP sent out that picture and people said you were fat in it, which one last week when you were complaining about the offensive line, Oh gosh, I look so fat. That was so fat, look bad. It was bad. Luck, Well, it didn't stop me. I'd had a bag of potato chips, so it's obviously not

affected me very much. Join in here, it is. We've got quite a program for you today, Saints Jaguar's Review. We'll go through the entire game, the offensive struggles yesterday, the defensive bounced back of sorts, homecoming weekend recap, the Big Gala on Saturday night, and all the festivities on game day social media questions. We've got some doozies again today and we'll go around the National Football League, the

AFC South as well. Thirteen to six the final yesterday, the Saints scored that was put a touchdown that was really the deciding factor in the game. Jaguars gave it away one time that led to a field goal earlier in the afternoon, and the offense just couldn't really put much together. And head coach Doug Maron after the game explained a little bit of the reason why we said it during the week. This is probably one of the best teams will face all around. You know, it's defensively,

they're good in all three levels. Um, you know, when they played well today, they did a couple of things, a couple of little wrinkles you know that we were, you know, trying to make adjustments and catch up to um. You know, but you know, we expect that in this league. I mean, that's what happens. It's nothing that you know, it's like, uh, you know, and when you have a young quarterback, you're gonna expect things like that. So there's Doug Marron yesterday and the Saints are now five and one.

Gardner Minshew had a fifty one point four rating in this game. Where do you start on the offensive issues from yes today? So I'm gonna ask a question because I just want to set the table for the whole show. Do you want us to have a conversation and just say like the easy like oh, just this and like the easy conversation that I hear on Twitter and people just spout out like, oh it's this, it's that group

they stink or the stinks. Or do you want to have an in depth, real conversation of what happened yesterday? What do you want to the offensive line? Again, I'm not talking just about that. What do you want a talking about well, because sometimes Pete know you like the easy black and white. Let's just go there and blame one person and it's over. No, we're not blaming one person or one group or one unit or not. We're not. Don't worry. You don't have to defend the offensive line

like you always. Where are you going with this? I'm just saying that was a very good team. It's the best thing they played all year. It might be the best team in the NFC. I think the NFC Title game. If you're asking me right now, it's gonna be in It's gonna be in Santa Clara. It's gonna be the forty Niners hosting against the New Orleans Saints. Don't don't count out the Packers yet. Mm hmm, okay, one of those three teams. Okay, fair enough. Um. So I knew

coming in it would be tough game. I thought we'd win because it was home and I thought that, and I thought the defense would bounced back, and they did. They gave up thirteen points and but offensively we struggled. In Gardner min she was a rookie, and he showed it yesterday and he looked like a rookie, and he was confused that they show him different things they played, They put they showed looks that they have not shown very often this year, at least in my film study.

And the main thing they did is they went to a two man coverage, meaning they had two high safeties playing over the top and played man underneath. And when you do that, it allows you to play a trail technique with your corners because you know you have stuff over the top. They also sprinkled in showing that early pre snapped and then running down one of the safeties and going into a one high man look as well, and watching the tape, I think Gardner got confused at times.

And I also think that as they were trying to make adjustments, it's difficult when you have a rookie because he's never seen it before and so because the two man is not something they had seen on tape, probably didn't have a lot in the game plan for it. You have a rookie on top of that, it then makes it difficult as you're making adjustments, and you can see some of the things they did, and they did some good things, and the bottom line is New Orleans

played better. I was talking to Mark Bartell about it today about two man because it's a you know, it's a it's a coverage that allows you to play aggressively with your corners because they you know, you have helped over the top on both halfs of the field, and you know the way you defeat that is, first and foremost, you have to run the ball because because that is a weak run defense, correct number two, there's not gonna

be stuff over the top. So it's a lot of crossing routes and keeping your receivers on the move, meaning at that point the receivers have to win. So and I didn't see a lot of winning by the receivers. Gardner did not play great, But it's not just enough to say, well, rookie saw something he hadn't seen before, didn't play great. That's part of the story. The other part of the story is is the receivers did not

win enough and the undernew underneath routes. You couple that with a average run game, you end up with six points because you're playing a really good team. Hey, Tony, this is the first time that chart had to deal with the double of the demand, demand and safety over the top. Did he had problems with it on the tape? I didn't watched the tape yet they all they all did. It was for him. He's the one receiver now. Yeah. Sure.

And and this is part of this is why when you have young players in a rookie quarterback, you're gonna go through learning experiences like this. It's the first time they've ever seen. I'm not making excuses. I'm gonna make excuses for Gardner. I'm not making excuses for the receivers. I'm not making excuses for the coaches, but the bottom line is it's there's a reason in the history of this league that it's hard to win with a rookie quarterback.

He also looked jumpy in the pocket more so than and it's something that's becoming a little bit part of his game. Is that rolling and moving her body around and towarding his body and inside the pocket. Well, here's the other thing, because the other thing is this watching the tape, when there was opportunities, he was not as accurate he as he's been in the past and the to date. Let's remember he had a knee injury two

weeks ago in Denver. He showed up in the middle of the week this week with a groin injury over the weekend. Actually both lower body injuries, and you ask any quarterback throwing the balls with your lower body, a groin injury can greatly affect your rotation and how you throw it. I think that groin was a bigger issue in the game than anyone realized watching the tape, because he was not himself. He wasn't moving around the way normally, and the ball wasn't coming out like it typically was,

and the accuracy wasn't there. He didn't set his feet as well as he had up into this point. Now. I think that's a combination of some injury that he's fighting, and I also think he was confused at time, and when you're confused, you're not going to be as definitive in what you want to do. So the whole idea that is over is ridiculous. Yeah, because let me ask you a question. Should the Rams cut Jared Goff? No? And he was terrible yesterday? He through for seven eight yards? Right?

Should um? Should the Cowboys get rid of and cut Dak Prescott? Is he a bum? No? That the great Cowboys only could score ten against this Saints team. It happens. Quarterbacks have bad days, especially rookies who've never seen certain things before. The mania is not over. I hear all of a sudden, now, oh he's that's he's just a sixth round. I mean, it's like we jumped from both ends of the spectrum so quick. Here. Well, the other thing, the other thing, another thing I'm getting a little is

now a little shakier. What did you say? The idea from a week ago that he would stay in as the starter is shakier now. Why one game now I disagree with that. If it happens again, fine, I'm not just saying from that game. If if he comes back and he bounces back and that's three good ones and they win three in a row, then you're right. But as of right now, it's opened it back up again. It was last week we were leaning in the direction that he would keep the job. It's not as secure now.

My leaning is where it was last week, right in the middle. I said it last week. I was not Pete. If you go back and listen, I said, they have to win games, you don't make the decision. And he played yesterday the way he did and they won. Um, you know, they were the team that scored the touchdown and they won that game. Would you still believe that? I think you have. You've covered this league a long time. I've been a part of it playing and covering it a long time. You know as well as I do.

How wins cover up everything. If he came back and led that team down for a drive in the fourth quarter to send it overtime, and then kicked the field goal to win it in overtime, you would forget about what I'm saying. I'm saying play it exactly the flip this. Okay, fine, struggle, but they scored the only touchdown and they won thirteen six. Yes, I think I think the narratives much different. Okay, yes, I mean my experience, and so it's uh, I mean there's a lot of I mean the other thing I love.

I mean I heard it on the radio, I've read it on the internet, and I mean maybe it's just people like in Twitter coming after me because the offensive line that has become a weekly traditions. But I hear the offensive line is terrible. They were terrible. Actually, no they weren't. It's not accurate. No, Taylor got beat twice by Cam Jordan's in the NFL game. The quarterback was hit a total of three times. And and Cam Jordan's a great player. Cam Jordan is an All Pro player.

They were hit three. He was hit three times, two sacks by Cam Jordan. One more time he was hit. If you go watch the tape, he had great pocket, I mean great pocket. Yeah, he was imagining some stuff yesterday. Great kids. The run game not great. Physical the physical side of the offensive line. I thought it was pretty good.

I thought there was three to four times that either it was a game plan issue or they miss idd the front and went and went to the wrong linebackers because you had multiple guys you had because they brought the safety down, you brought the receiver in, and you had an offensive line and a receiver going to the same guy and leaving a linebacker on the backside unblocked. And so there was either a mental air or a schematical error. It's hard to tell. I don't know whose

fault it was. And there was another two times on uh inside runs and subsituations that they had one less blocker than they did in the box, and so you just can't win there. I thought there was a mystery hold call that we'll get into a little bit later that could have changed the game. That happens in this league. It's happening way too much. It's an over officiated league right now. Not just the Jaguars across the NFL, but the offensive line. In my opinion watching the tape was

could they play better? Sure, when you lose, you always can play better, but it's not like what I'm hearing. They are atrocious there. You know, the main issue of the offenses, the line has to play better, not accurate. Watching yesterday's game, you know the tight end blocking is bad. The tight ends. They're out of tight ends right. Well, you don't have a tight now, you know. But when

they're on the field, they're not clip blockers either. It is something that they're trying to scheme around their average blockers. And hence why you see a boy he coming in to me the tight end when they want to run the ball. Well, mar Sides Lewis will be playing tonight in case anybody wants to watch. He is still playing and he is playing at a decent level as a blocker.

Let's come back. We'll get on the defensive side. The defense bounced back yesterday with a fine performance against the Saints, layering issue that they haven't I want to talk about. We can't wait to hear it. That's what we call it. Tease. I like that. We're back in a moment plenty more ahead. We'll get to your social media questions in the second hour tonight defensive talk. When we return, we're off and running. It'st Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on

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You know, we had our opportunities. You know, it's a game an interests. You know, play here, play there kind of made and we didn't you know us. It's tough because at home just a an opponent. You know, it's could have been a you know, very very big forest. But still got life. You know, still a lot of life left, you know. I mean, you know, the good thing about it is gonna the opponents. So you know, let me get to the FC opponent to know these

games are a lot more crucial. Just gotta take it one game at the time, by the way back to know it's one of this crucial one. Yea. We gotta stay locked in in the moment, you know, knowing that this this next game, uh, this this week is crucial. Tours assess this isn't. Calias Campbell in the locker room after the Jaguars lost to the Saints yesterday. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans continues. J P. Shadwick, Tony Boselli, Pete Priscoe. We've touched on the offense, let's

whip it around to defense. Well, Colias says, they still have life. He knows this week is crucial to kind of get this team back week six. Of course, they still have life, right, it's early, right, Pete. I mean there's a lot of football say that. I mean, it's it's far fit. Look at the way the AMC's there's so many teams at two and four and it's not like anybody's running away with the division. Of course, they have life. So Pete, would you say they have life

if they lose against the Bengals. No, it's only seven weeks, it's seven five and you're losing the bad teams. Would you, guys say, would you think they're dead? I think there was a team once upon a time those two and five weren't they were they three and five? They were three and Five's that like the Bengals are getting blown out of we're three and five, three and six, four and six, four and seven. Yeah, don't don't dare, don't dare do that. No, No, I'm joking. Um, yeah, I

actually agree with Pete. They gotta win this game, right like this is a must win game. Well the next two or must win. Yeah, I agree. You have to be four and four going into London. And then when you go to London, you know that little stretch after London is three Division games in a row, two of them on the road. I mean if you after right, yeah, well you no, it's London is the Texans, then at Indie at Tennessee. Right, so if they can win the next five games, they're in great shape. If they get

seven and four, everything is fine. Huh. You already locked the Tennessee game, so they don't have to worry about that one. That's right, that's a that's a that's a done deal. I don't worry about he locked this week too, so that now he's well, you locked three in a rows. I'm not locking. Well, the three in a row? Where any of them? No, you said all three, Three of the next triple locks, three of the next four triple lock. Yeah, triple lock three or four. But by the way, I

know you're gonna lock this week. No, I'm not no worried. He's worried. I'm not worried. I just the lock is losing credibility. Now you're just realizing that. Okay, Um, the Jaguars defense, you know, did this get them back to where they need to be defensively? This performance yesterday, they give up thirteen zero turnovers. They have one turnover on the year, and they're tied for the worst amount of

turnovers in the league with two total turnovers. Uh. Creating turnovers with the one team you don't want to be compared to in any category. And that's the Miami Dolphins this year. I mean, if you had a playmaking corner on the other so on one side, it might help. So you're saying Jalen gives you more turnovers just for the record, they had zero when Jalen was playing. They actually have more turnovers with it. Uh. I'm just telling

you the facts beat. The facts are the facts. They could have a better chance to get more turnovers if he's on the field. The facts are they had zero with him, doesn't matter, they have one without him. He's a star quarter You want him on the field, obviously you want him to know Pete. The problem I'm saying that they're not getting turnovers correct, Well, they're not influencing the quarterback the way they're not affecting the quarterback. They're not.

They're not an explosive defense right now. Did they play good soul defense? Absolutely? They had four quarterback hits yesterday? Not enough who had him too by Josh Allen, one by one smooth on the sack and another by Naja Good which I believe was on the sacks which he kind of just laid on top of the guy. So let me ask you a question. We just said that the Saints had three total correct, and that's not enough. So it's far enough. No, they didn't affect the quarterback,

neither of the Saints. And Teddy holds the ball too that he sure does, So yeah, happening unique and goin. He's not. He's in. He had one pressure of of Bridgewater. He's in the official stat sheet, one tackle, one pass defense. He's clearly not the same player. No, he's not impacting the game. No, and so all that stuff that went on in the off season as an impact of him. I know he got thicked up a little bit, but you're healthier out there. I mean, this kid looked like

you would be a big time pass rusher. And it's not happening. The bottom line, this is a defense that is not played. They played really solid, good run defense. They made it difficult for the Saints to get the end zone. They played good red zone defense. Um, even the ball to Jared Cooked that was caught was good coverage contested by Jared Jared Wilson. I mean it was a great throw, great catch. So there, that was a

solid defense. But they're not they're not. It's not an impactful defense right now, it's not giving you a short field. It's not coming with the big plays. It's not I mean, it's not change in the course of the game type of defense and the big The way you change the course of a game is creating turnovers, and they're not creating turnovers right now, not even not even right now. My My story would be I have to find out what's wrong within god Way. Yeah, yeah, I don't know

the contract. Is he injured? Is it? Uh? You know, what's the deal? I mean, this guy, You think about this. At one point they were offering I mean in the off season there was an eighteen million dollar a year offer on the table, and then it was too low for his people. You think he would take that now? I think it would be an interesting conversation. But Jack

has played like a shell of himself. Lay better yesterday a little bit, but still not the same guy I thought I would see this year, and they paid him already, correct. I mean, your best defensive players still by far as Clay's Campbell, it's not even close. Your second best player is DJ Hayden right now. Probably you know who else is playing good? Wilson's playing pretty good? Yeah, d J Hayden is playing good football and he's playing through a

foot issue. But don't play good yesterday in flashes David Bryant. David Bryant did play. That's a good call, Pete, and you watched the tape. I thought he did a good job yesterday. Josh Allen, Josh Allen does some really good things, Marshall. Darius has not played well the last couple of weeks. And let me tell you who else plays well, and I think he's played well all season for the most part, is big Abrey Jones. Aby Jones is a good nose guarden.

Good job, he does a good job. Okay, So they have a good nose guard, they have a good run player at end in Campbell or whatever he place there. They put Darius in there, and they have to linebacker who they paid a boatload of money. Why aren't they as good as they should be on the defense staff? Well, um, I don't think they're rushing pasture very well. Be four and that's how you create turnovers. Is hitting the quarterback more than anything else. They're not playing with the lead,

so they're not forcing teams to press um like. Those are the two big reasons, and certain guys aren't. I mean, Miles Jack isn't having a great year so far, and Godway is not having a great Godway is not having a great year. Darius is not having a great year so far. So it's performance too, But Harrison hasn't had a good year. You got, you got. You have to rush the teams that create a lot of turnovers, rushed

the passer and play with the lead. I will say this, I think A j. Boyer has played better with with Jalen Ramsey not being there. Why Why is that? I don't know, I don't know. Why Why do you say that? Because his best year was seventeen when Jalen was there. But but don't you agree though early in the year he was struggling and he's played better in but he was beat up three lingering injury earlier year. Pete, I think he's feeling healthier. I think that's the issue. Okay,

he's been better. If you're healthier, you're gonna be better. What do you think of Trade Harden? Yesterday? He played fine? Yeah, you're solid. There's some great tackles, great open field tackles. You heard the nine tackles one for a loss? Yes, yeah, I thought heard to played good football. I mean they're gonna keep throwing at him though, right other teams sure, but I mean they're gonna they threw a threw it a j through it. Everybody touchdowns against Jared Wilson on

the Jared Cook. I mean the question that everyone's getting to is is the outcome different if Jalen Ramsey plays. I don't think so, but it could be. So they get holding the three, because that's all I mean. I mean, one player here there, Maybe there's a like Pete said, maybe he gets a takeaway and a tip ball, they get off the field one extra time. I'll just I'll put it this way. I'm gonna I'm gonna you want to talk about riding defense and not really saying anything.

The statements I'm about the make are gonna be absolutely ridiculous. And I am not the fence rider like U. J. P. Pete rides defense at times. Yeah you do. So you're gonna join us on the fence. Join you on the fence. Obviously you want your one of your best players. I still contend that your best defensive player on this team is Clay's Campbell. You just looked at production would be if he was there playing at the high level. Okay,

last year, who was the best defensive player? Plays Campbell? Right, Okay, and seventeen, who is the best defensive player? Plays Campbell? He's the best piece of player. He's not. He is the best. So my point is, okay, So obviously you want Jalen, who's your best, second best defensive player and one of the best defensive backs in football. You want him on the field because it gives you a better chance of winning. So possibly he makes a different difference yesterday,

But I don't think he does. And you also had him all of last year and you were five and eleven. But doesn't better at coverage make getting to the quarterback a little bit easier? You gotta hold the ball a little bit longer again, Teddy was holding the ball yesterday already. Yeah, well maybe a little another split second and he hold it a little longer. My whole point is what of riding the fence there? Because I said absolutely nothing in

the statements I've made. You don't You don't know whether he makes you better or not, and or he changes the outcome of the game. But you do know that having better players makes you better. So you want him out there, but I I can't see any point in that game where all of a sudden you win the game because Jalen's on the field. So how do you get him out there? Well, he has a injured back that is obviously very severe because he's missed three games.

And you can take a good point last week, Tony, if you're a player and you're trying to get out and you're trying to get into contract, back is not the injury you're going to fake or Jake. He obviously has a very serious injury, right, And if it's this serious, it came out of nowhere because he played on Thursday night and all of a sudden he's hurt, played well and played well, and it's so you know, what do

you do? You're gonna miss three games. He's telling you he can't go, He can't go, you move, I mean, so you gotta try to get him healthy and a little bit left. All you can do is he was limited for three days, Pete, And at least when the times we were out there, it was individual work. Who knows after that individual work what was he doing? What much was he turning and running at all or covering anybody? Was he doing any of that stuff the moments I was out there, I didn't see a lot of the

full speed stuff and individuals. But that's just me. Listen the I want to be careful because no say it, say what you feel. My in my book is you get paid to play football, and if you can't play, you better have a real injury. That's really bad. But if you could play by taking medicine or whatever and you can help the team, you play. I don't care what it is. You go play now, but back, you

gotta be careful with the back Tony. Doug Maron said today in the conference call at two o'clock with the media that they'll continue to get treatment today and tomorrow and then they'll see where he is Wednesday and take it day by day. That was the coach's answer back an entirely different situations. The hamstring. He had a stiff back, right, and that what we were told is a stiff back. Okay, Tony, you're you hurt, You're back today. If you had to

playoffs something, could you play, Yes? Because I would take muscle or laskers and I would do whatever it took to go out there and play. So basically, that I get paid to play. I don't know or I'm not saying anything. I'm saying he's missed three games. Question I'm saying that he should not be I'm all all I'm questioning, is it here? It has to be more than a stiff back. I hope it's not like a a disc where he has to get maybe the surgery, Maybe we

should shut him down for the year. I'm just saying. I'm just saying he's trying to do outside of the Jaguars. My only point is when you missed three games in this league, you're telling your teammates and your team. Because he told us literally to three weeks three weeks ago that all he wanted to do is win, and he'd give everything he had to his team, and he loved his teammates. So now you've been on the injury report and you've missed football games because of a back injury.

So that's it is a very serious injury that he's dealing with, or he's jaking it. It can't be anywhere in between. That's my point, and so I'll be I'm not even the benefit the doubt, and if it must be like we might need the schedule surgery or something something like. I mean, it must be so serious that you gotta figure it out and it's it's not a good situation. So if that's the case, I don't expect

him back anytime soon. If you're well, if you're a teammate of his, are you angry with him with the idea that it might not be as bad? I'm asking the question. I'll tell you that much. Chris Mortenson yesterday before ask a question. You know that Chris Mortenson yesterday had the tweet before the game when Ramsey was ruled inactive, said he participated only in individual drills this week after doctors found nothing tabilitating with his back injury. That was

the tweet from mort report from ESPN. So what does that tell you? Hm, Well, then why don't they come out and say he's jaking it? Then? You can't, sure, you can't, you can't. Let's come back in a moment. Now, you can't getting traded, So let him rot there then, or maybe or let's make sure we get his back fixed, because it must be simpthing, really serious. Well, continue, your sarcasm just is bleeding right through. You don't think he's hurt? I don't know Pete, I don't know. I'm not in

the I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I just know this. He played Thursday night. There was no injury that we saw or heard of. He gets the he wants to be traded. They're not gonna trade him. He gets the flu and then his back hurts and he walks around. I see him walking around, and you hear it's a stiff back. He goes a specialist. I mean, I don't know. It must be so serious, like I just know this beat. You've covered the league for a long time. I'm only going by in the locker room,

and maybe it's changed. Like if you could play, you get paid to play, you go out there and try to help your team. I'm waiting for the story where the anonymous quotes come from the locker room that they're tired of it. I would have had that already. But Pete, am I wrong? Is that not what you do? There's gotta be guys in there questioning that. And so if that's the and here's the other thing I find troubling. What I know about Jalen Ramsey up to this episode

is the dude loves football. It's competitive. Never missed the game played through knee injuries, ankle injuries, came back from surgery quicker than anyone ever thought in battle, I mean, is a warrior. And then now the blue like he's not playing because of the back that we've ever heard of, Like something doesn't add up. It's either so serious because the guys like the one thing I'll never question Jalen about the dude's tough. The dude is a warrior when

he goes on that field and we'll battle anybody. You'll hit. Guys. Oh, he's great. And now all of a sudden, now, all of a sudden, like we have this back injury that you don't believe him. I don't know, Pete, you don't believe him. I can see. I can just read your tone. By the way, did he make the owner look bad? Well, it's it's not I don't know. It's never a good look when the owner says that they had a meeting, a productive meeting, and he believes that the player is

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Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans continues JP Shatterck, Tony Baselli, and Jacksonville Pete Briscoe, CBS Sports senior writer down in Fort Lauderdhill. The offensive talk continues here. You touched on that earlier guys, the coverage on Chark and how at some point they're gonna have to adjustin and other guys have to get open and things have to happen. It didn't happen a lot yesterday. The running game. How

was Leonard for that? For you guys yesterday? I thought he ran pretty hard, made a nice bounce on the one run. I thought, um, yeah, I think he played hard. I think I think Leonard is and I think he's played hard all year. I think Leonard has been a good team man. I think he comes prepared. I think he um is doing his job. I think he's a power back that when there is a crease and he gets going downhill, he's an effective runner. He's just not

gonna make people miss. That's not his game. And that's okay. He's a big, powerful back and he has good hands. He ran a great route and got a big first down um And I think Leonard Fournett's doing exactly what you want from a player, coming prepared, playing his tail off, being a good teammate. And so I got nothing but good things to say about Leonard for that this year. Yeah, he's been He's been a lot better than I thought

he would be. But having said all that, you pop on the tape, like I did watch the tape from last week, Tony, there's times where he just misses and you're sitting there to go there it is, Oh you missed it, you know what I mean? He just doesn't need find the well. I don't know if he misses it, Pete more as much as that's I mean, he's not gonna He's not a great uh. His vision isn't great. He's a one cut guy. Yeah, but his vision isn't great either. Well even but sometimes I think maybe he

sees he just can't get there. I mean he's a big back, he's a big, powerful guy. Yeah, he's been better. I'm gonna give him credit because he's been better than I thought he would be this year. And and you know he's he seems like a different guy now. And you can't give any a guy like that. You gotta give him credit for that. Absolutely, he's been good at the backfield. He's catching the ball. Yeah. I mean he

is in the locker room too. No, that's upsad. I think he's like what like like all right, man, like good player, Like he's doing he's doing his job. He's still third in the league in yardage after this past week as well, after a seventy two yard day on the ground, which is nice. And he's right there in there. He didn't have the big run. He got one call back on just an atrocious hold. Yeah, show that real quick. Yeah. Absolutely, they were a handful of holding calls, two of them.

I think we're off set yesterday for the Jaguars offensive line. This is the worst hole in the history of them This is in the fourth quarter, early about the ten mark. You go first and ten at thet will Richardson's pulling around. He comes right there and he's blocking Tomorrow Davis, and he hits him with his shoulder and knocks down Davis. Did you get the arm out in front? He didn't hook him. He didn't hook him. Watch you can't see it. I can't see it. I can't see it. I'll just

show you all twenty two. I watched he's flag. The flag came in from the side as well. Yeah, because the guy imagines what he thinks he sees. So he's pulling around for everyone listening, and he's coming up in the hole, and Tomorrow Davis, the linebacker is coming from the inside out, and so he's trying to undercut the play, which, by the way, he's never making the tackle no matter what.

So he tries to undercut it. Will Richardson hits him with his right arm and form on the on his shoulder pad and shoulder, and the force of it spins Uh tomorrow O' Davis around and he falls down the side. Judge thinks he sees something that doesn't happen. He thinks he sees he gets hooked and is pulled down. There's no pulling at all, there's no yanking him a nice first down in thirty five yard line, first and tend

at the thirty five. It changes, It changed the outlook, and my problem is it's and by the way, this isn't picking on the Jags. This is league wide. If you watch the end of the Dallas Jets game, six straight plays with penalties, some were actual penalties and some more ticking tack calls that should not be called. And the officials right now are over officiating games. Let guys play call holding when it's agreed, just when it's a whole I mean, call passion of sharians, like the whole

past interference thing needs to be thrown out. If I was commissioner, I would use my executive privileges that I'm not even sure of the commissioner has, but I give them to myself, and I would call every team and saying and every official p I will no longer be reviewable because it overturning anything, and it's a judgment call. Call it as you see it, and coaches shut up and stopped complaining. We're playing football, because that's how we've done it for a hundred years, just two hundreds. We

want to change it. And it's a disaster because the p I against Chris Conley was obviously p I. I would not have challenged it if I was dug. I said on the radio, don't challenge it because they're not overturning it. I did a Thursday night game where they were holding, tackling the arm and holding the arm of the Giants receiver and they didn't call it. It was as clear as p I as you can have. They they're not overturning it, so don't do it. It's a The officials right now are out of control. It's a

tough job they have. I get that, but they're over over officiating the game right now. It's bad for the game. It's not good for the fans. It's not good for the players. It's not good for any of us involved in this league. Let's come back, um, we'll talk about homecoming weekend when we were coming. Second hour coming up, we'll have the more on the jail Ramsey injury situation, touch some of the top stories, your social questions coming up.

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I need some medicine. My back hurts. That was a good event, though I wish I would have been there. I would have been fun. You were invited, don't worry about it. How many guys Tony, how many guys from the ninety five team were there? Showed up? Is that I mean were on the field? Any surprise, Any surprise guys that you didn't hadn't seen in a while, that you think would be there. Well, no, I didn't know who's gonna be there, but I hadn't seen vin Clark forever,

and Vinny was there. Vinny Clark. Wow, Yeah, it was great. It was great to see him. He could have thanked me for saving his life. How's it remind me of that, Pete? How you saved his life? Well? Will you? Joked me an ocean joke about it all the time. Remember when he went off and New England, he was screaming and yelling and pitching a fit when he got cut. Remember he got cut on the plane on the way home. That was yeah, well he ended up getting caught. And

remember he all blame. Remember everybody blamed me and Oshan for that for some reason of me initially. But and so what happened was he went to Cincinnati and they tried to pick up up with somebody trying to pick up I think Cincinnati, and they did a test on him and they found out he had a defect in his heart or something. I thought it was his neck, but maybe it was. I thought it was something else. But anyways, but Vinny, Vinny, you know Vinny, you know

Vinny is He's the Clay. I love Vinny Clark. By the way, but he's the one who threatened to blow up my car in the practice field, which is so funny because Vinny is one of the most fun loving I love Vinny. That's why he got so mad. I could could you imagine if that happened today? He screamed it at me on the practice field. Yeah, I wish he would have team. Was there anybody like guys that, because that's just that's one Yeah in the plasts and I like Vinny Santos Santo Stevens. Oh yeah. He was

always likable, very easy going. Leon Brown, Oh, Leon Brown, the running back. Oh I saw Leon a couple of Leon was a police officer in Taxico for a while. Remember remember his story is the leg went one way and the foot went the other. Yeah. Who else was there? From what was the coolest part of the weekend because there were a couple of ceremonies during the games Sunday, the whole thing, I mean, the gala was awesome. It was a great event, good party. Um being recognized with

the ninety five team was cool. And then probably the probably the top twenty five at halftime probably introduced everybody was there? No no go go Keith go gainis or no, James Williams. I'm sure it wasn't there. No, no, no, no. Oh, Spanky came back. That was great. I've seen Spanky for a while. Dana Hall, Dana Hall was he was in. I thought he showed up in ninety six. Remember it was great. It was a lot of fun. It was

just a good event, a lot of laughs. You know, it's just you see guys for the first time such a long time. It's just so no ring of honor for anybody, I mean, no nobody going up in the ring this year. Huh no, no oh, it's trying to put Keenan up there. Okay. Keen is amazing, amazing, Jack, what he's done all the way around? Maurice. Are the next two that need to go up? O Joe? Yeah? You know what, what defensive player would you put up there? Because you need uh first defensive player? Who is it?

I agree? I was about to say the same thing. I'd say machine too. Let's come back. Second hour is just ahead. We'll get to the top stories again. We'll get to your social media questions to get Baselli all angry. Do you think we can bring like a Massus in here to work on my back backs tight and I'm not This is not I'm not making this up. I'm really hurting right now. My back is messed up. We're back in a moment. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour, not Digital Network.

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get a lot of those. I thought that if you make um my opinion was, if you make contact prior to the ball, you know, getting to the receiver, then he had no chance, you know what I say, had really catching a football, which I would look at its egregious. But obviously they didn't feel that way. And and and

they didn't. They didn't take a chance. I mean, we get you know, they do a lot of a lot of stuff during the week where they give us a ton of film, and um, we know it's difficult to get a flagged down on the field, and um, you know, but I thought at that time, I thought he hit him, you know, before the ball got to him. I thought that would egregious enough. But um I was wrong. Coach Sick Maron after the game yesterday, discussing that challenge of

past interference and Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Our second hour begins, J P. Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco. I could I could feel the pain from here, Bissell. I mean he's sitting down, he's moaning and groaning. You got something in that coffee? Maybe to help you out? If anyone has any like pharmaceutical muscle relaxers that they can prescribe me. I don't want to do anything illegal, but I need some drugs, legal drugs, not illegal. Legal. Carefully,

go down to the locker room. You probably find whatever you need. Pharmaceuticals are legal if they're prescribed by a doctor. I just said, is there any doctors listening that can call me in? Do you have a phone? Don't you you can? There's some doctors listening to us right now. Don't you have a doctor somewhere? I guess what Pete's gonna be doing a commercial soon. I think it sounds like, sure, there's some doctor listening right now to us. We know

he's not a poster boy for anymore. What's that? What's that? Because I'm looking? Have you looked in the mirror lately, buddy? Oh no, I'm not denying. I'm fat but I didn't. I didn't get paid a boatload of money to get skinny either. I was skinny when I needed to be, and I'm no longer it's no longer needed. I love it. I absolutely love it. Wow. I hope you feel of course, we're fat, Tony. I hope your back feels better. I was supposed tolay golf in the morning. There's no way.

Don't even try it, although maybe to loosen or U No, no, no. If there's any chance to me being on the play, I will play. I'll find a way because I enjoy it. But right now I can't imagine. Let's get still, you get come on, That's what I just said. Yeah, don't don't push it. Why what do you think? What do you think the plane rides would be like the Denver on Wednesday? For me? Oh my gosh, are you doing that game Thursday night? Yeah? All of a sudden, All

of a sudden, Denver wins. They're right back in the n f C West, and the Raiders are in it, and and and the Chargers beat the Titans this week and they're right back in it. We'll go around there, crazy, We'll go around the National Football League and recap yesterday's games coming up with just a little bit. Are we gonna spend two segments because there's some games I want to get it. Yes, we're gonna touch the ANFC South and then we're gonna touch the rest of the There's

some fascinating stuff going around the league. There is that'll be coming up. We'll get the social questions coming up. Let's touch again on some of the big stories around the Jags, starting with the offensive issues. Yesterday, they couldn't find anything consistent on the offensive side of the football, couldn't really maintain many drives. They ran the ball, okay, but Gardner Minshew didn't have his best day as the quarterback. So I think the offensive line played well. I thought

Leonard was good. I thought the tight ends were thin, and you know, it's a struggle right now, a lot of injuries. I thought the receivers didn't win in great separation. And I don't think Minshi was very good. I thought he was confused, that's all that's right, That's all right, Okay, Yeah, it's a lot of video with swing he about he got knocked out. So head coach Dug Marone today in that press conference, Pete said, he's in concussion protocol and he uh had a sprained ankle as well. Yeah, it

looked like the play. He like he got knocked out there so badly that he didn't feel the ankle bend back because he was out. You're knocked out, you don't feel anything else, no kidding. So that wasn't a dirty play either, by the way, by Damario Davis, that's just a bang bang play. He didn't leave with it. He didn't leave with his healent. He actually turned his body and him with the shoulder. He just went a little high. Then Davis doesn't have a history of Oh no, he's

a good football player. He's a really, he's a he's one of the most underrated players in the league. Jeff and I were talking, Pete. That would have been a highlight on ESPN when we played. Yeah absolutely, wow, Wow, look at that jack him up because we used to have hits like that all the time. That was not that hit happened all the time. Do you so he's concussion protocol. It's probably not playing this. Here's the other thing, Pete,

how about this. There was a time not long ago when I played that hit would have been celebrated as a great play, and there was a fifty fifty chance Jeff's Wayne would have came back and played in that same game. Well, I mean also his ankle like an ankle out. You know that guys who yes smelling salts. I mean, I can tell you this times I've I mean I've seen guys like their eyes like rolling back in their head and like two series later, the right back in the huddle. Here we go, ready to go.

So if he can't play, then one you gotta go sign somebody. You have to sign somebody off the streets. The seth develop show coming up in Cincinnati for thin there. And I don't think the rookies anytime is I don't think the rookie is coming back this week either, Josh down it sound like today Doug was optimistic in his conference call today. Have we haven't we heard that for a while. And here's the thing, let's say, what could

you do? I don't know. Let's say there's a chance that this is a rookie who's never played the NFL game. I haven't played a scrimmage yet, but he's done nothing full speed because it's not like they go full speed in practice. Now, and it's not like he come into the the league with a reputation for being a run blocker. Then the offseason program he wasn't that either. He was running around to run a rounds, which is what happened to the that's the problem because they can't block the edge. Well,

that's why they got away. He playing tight end and that's why they should watch Mercedes tonight for Green Bay. Well, why he's a packer. He's a packer. What are you gonna package deal for Mercedes? Get your come home. We get your point that they should never have let him passed as in the past. It's not going to change anything now. Don't look back, Pete. Look forward. Don't be a media guy who just tells everyone else what they did wrong based on vision. Look ahead. Let's give us something, Pete,

that we can build on. Build hope. You want to review the last five drafts and see what the Jags could have taken. While we're at it, Pete, you want me to review your picks from this past weekend and how bad they were. No, please don't do that. Hey, at least I can admit my mistakes. I was awful. The defense bounced back. They had a solid game. Yeah they have. That's a good one, you know. That's a

good descript and a really good solid game. They needed it to after a rough outing in Carolina the week before, and in moments at second half of the game in Denver, they stood strong when they needed to. The offense got back in the game. Then at the point was early in the second half, they let the offense work back into the game and held under down. That was my point. The obviously the big drive to give up the lead

was not good. But uh and then last week against Carolina not good against the run at all, but they bounced back. Do they still play a good defensive game? If who plays Drew Brees? Oh, I don't know who we I don't know. It's tough to say. Yeah, I mean, I get it. It's tough to say. But but Bridgewater was not good yesterday. He's four it. Oh, it's just a story that quarterback wins is a meaningless stat at times. It's just a good overall team. Man, have a good

solid team. That line is good right to Yeah, they're good offensive line. They're you know, running backs good good running back. It's very well coached. They schematically got some things that big third down Tastom Hill run um and you know what was coming to right? What else do you don't see? I don't mind when they put Taysom Hill in when Teddy Bridgewater is playing. But I've I even told John Payne, I go, why would you ever take Drew Brees off the field to put Tastom Hill

and a game? What do you say he goes? Have you seen him throw a pass? Like? I don't care if you get throws? Who cares? Did he show you his ring? He thinks he's really going to be a good quarterback too. Did you show me the ring? Well, he only has one, but I'm coach. If I was coach, do you know I would have a ring? Of course, based on your picks this past week, I know as a GM you probably have like seven rings, right, Pete? No, I mean, look, it doesn't mean you can't criticize the

guy for his decisions. I'm not a five star chef, but I sure stact knows know what tastes good. Look at my stomach. That's a good call. Good point. And then, of course the Jaalen Ramsey situation. He today Doug bron said that they'll go day to day treatment to day tomorrow, they'll see where he is on Wednesday. And that's the coach's view of it. The other view of it is that the owner expected him to play on Sunday and he did not play on Sunday with the back issue

after practicing limited all week. And I guess the rule is he doesn't have to talk to the media because he's not active. Is that right? Yeah? What's the league rule there? If I, if I active during the game day, doesn't have to talk to the media. What about during the week if he should be talking to the me he should be made available even if he's on the injury report. I guess my question is what's league policy if like if the he was limited in practice, he

was around, he should be available. So normal Thursday was his day to talk kind of thing. Yea, And that hasn't happened in a few weeks. But that decision not to talk, then he's not talking. All players have to be available for UM Wednesday, Thursday Friday window and you can I think there's two players you can pick to go to the podium only, So there you go. So my question is could the league step in if they

wanted to and say, Jalen, you have to talk. No, we've seen offense, remember the old offensive lines from the Broncos, and they talk for a whole year. Well they can find him, they can find if If that's my point, the league could say you have to talk and if Jalen doesn't, then they can find them. Yeah. I think that only comes if there's a complaint from the media

the beat. Yes, so interesting, but I didn't talk. So Pete, if you were on the beat right now Jalen refused to talk to you, would you complain to the league and say I want it and available. I called the league. When Tom Coughlan hit Jimmy Smith's injury on a Wednesday, of course I would come on it. It's like hear you say it. It's awesome. Don't you remember that day when Jimmy was he wasn't practiced. Anybody was on the injury report. I had warned Tom and I said Tom,

and enough enough, and I went outside. A couple of guys told me Jimmy wasn't practicing. And I went inside and I called Dielo in the league as I told him there's things out of control. Colpan's not putting injuries on the injury report. Next day, Jimmy jumped me in the locker room. How did that go? Well, I go, Jimmy, what are you mad at? Before he goes into my injury, it's my injury. I go, you're not injury. You're not an injury. I mean, if you're injured, you're not on

injury report. I go, it's nothing, no reflection of you. It's reflection at Tom. But he jumped me, and those are the good old days. I used to love getting mad at Pete. It was so much fun. And that was you know what. It was fun because would be in my years covering the league, the five six years or whatever it was that I covered, that locker room was as much fun as I've ever had because Pete did. It was fun because he could go after him and

he wouldn't back down even when he was wrong. You just sit there and start yapping at you right and then, and you guys would gap back at me. It's fun, what I'm saying. It was fun. We had We had the Prisco free Zone. We taped off an air in the locker room. He wasn't allowed to come in, and aside from a few guys, it was never really nasty. It was always in fun. We'd always make fun. There was some nasties, you know, I'm saying with most of

the guys was always in fun, all right. But there were a couple of guys when we did the Prisco Free Zone that was in fun. Well, who were some of the bad ones? We taped off an area? Marco went way over four At times it was a little aggressive, James Williams, I mean rarely aggressive. Tony Brackens didn't talk to me for four years or whatever it was. That's sorry. I didn't talk to many people. Was Kevin Hardy there

this weekend here? Yeah? He was a good dude. Um, But yeah, there were certain guys that that kind of you know, we're hard to deal with. But you know what I used to say, and John Oshan says it now, if they don't talk, they don't talk. So what other guys in the locker room that will talk? Other guys in there? Right now, let's come back. We'll get to the social questions tonight. Oh, I can't love some We've

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we just keep keep working. Can Robinson, Jaguars left tackle in the locker room yesterday after the Jaguars lost to the New Orleans Saints. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Priscoe. Glad you're with us today for the second hour of this program. Time now for our social media questions. Can I ask you one question real quick? What's the up? What's the update on Marquise Lee. Marquis Lee he had a midfoot spring or a lower lane.

He had a boot on yesterday. That's all I know. It looked like midfoot. What they're looking at for me, it was ankle sprain, ankle, ankle, let's go at least it wasn't the knee again, No, it was lower, correct, it was lower lower a break ken a right, I mean that's unfortunately it was on a running play, got rolled up right. Um, just trying to work his way back from the previous injury and here he goes again. Ian Rappaboard earlier said um, minor to moderate, considered week

to week, so he will likely miss some time. So do you have it with Marquis now? Social media questions starting with at young BUSSELLI and I don't think this is any relation to you, Tony. As we've said before, I'd like Tony to rank each of the Jaguars individual offensive lineman's performances this season from one to five overall. Yeah, who's been the best offensive lineman for this team? One to five? Yeah, I'm not going to do that. You've done it before. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it right now.

Why because I would want to go I can look at the film closer and really gather my thoughts. We have six games now, and off the top of my head, it's unfair to do well. I'll give you how how PFF for action. Okay, I don't really care because they don't know focus Brandon Linda one, Andrew norwell too, Juwan Taylor three, Cam rab, Cam Robinson four and a j Can five and the world richest in six Uh correct? Mhmm? Do you agree? I don't know. I mean I have

to game the game. It depends, just like first initial Let's go. I think Linda has been the best center, has been the best guard, and Taylor has been the best tackle. And I thought this path game was Cam's best game. This pass game was Cam Robinson's best game. So I see Cam getting better. Cam played. I thought Cam did a good job. Cam. I think Cam Robinson is getting better too, Cam with Cam's the most physical player. Hey, Cam is a ton of upside Cam Robinson, Cam Robinson.

I think Jowan Taylor is gonna be a stud. I think we have two tackles that are on the trajectory to be book end tackles for the next ten years. They can stay healthy. Both the really good players. I think Will Richardson is gonna be a starter in this league for a long time. I think the Noral gets overly criticized because of his salary um, but I thought he played well this week. Did they overpay for him?

Like every other free agent in the history of the NFL outside of about a handful, you overpay for free agents the way it goes. It's an open market. You've taken a lot of heat for defending norwell, though I don't care best, it was better this week. I just don't. Looking at the TV. You loved them, and now back and watch that tape, Tony. They were more mrs than you gave him credit for. Now he had two in the first three quarters. You want to go watch it.

I'm happy to watch it with you. Yeah, yeah, there was there was happy he was he got he whipped on a on a run play, and then there was one on the protection. I'm happy. I'm happy anyone who liked to come watch the offensive line film with me, I'm happy to do it. But this week, this week he looked like he was much better, particularly in the run game. I'm not saying he's a top five guard in this league. I'm saying he's one of the best guards.

But okay, I'll say this go in the a f C South outside of a South guards are bad except for to both of them in in Indianapois because glue Winsky is better than him, too better Norwell. Yeah, the Titans guards are terrible. Roger Staffold is awful. Just go around the league. Look at the Texans guards. Got a rookie there, he's you know, he's developed, he's just watch guard play. And Andrew Well is physical player. He had a couple of few bad plays against the Carolina Panthers.

One that was egregious that overshadows everything else. I get it. I'll give me a perfect example. He got called for two penalties uh this week. One was a false start, can't happen, terrible mistake by a veteran player. The next one was a whole He held a guy that wasn't his, guy that was beating someone else, and he basically tried to cover up and tackle him so the quarterback didn't get killed. Here's his overall grades from PFF by week. Minus point seven not bad, minus one point five bad.

One is one point seven not good. Positive one against Denver and the game you defended them on they had a minus four point three, so they thought he was awful. I don't care what they think. Well, I mean most fans agreed with him. Yeah, most coaches don't pay attention to that. He's getting everything they say either, do coaches? Do coaches agree with what PFF usually puts out there? The well the teams by it coaches. I'm not saying they.

I'm asking you a question. Answer, Pete, they don't thank you. Next question at Long John Silver eighty five. Do the guys think that the offensive woes were more on the offensive line or the receivers not getting open? I'm already answered that question. The receivers didn't win. The receivers didn't win. The young quarterback was confused, didn't play well? Easy enough, Easy answer, touched the quarterback three times three. That's correct.

That's correct. Next question, bo Offord, who wins this tag team wrestling match Tony and Minshew versus Pete and Calais. I think a w would love to have that on Wednesday nights on t NT. Here's the thing. I want nothing to do with class in my current of health and age, and Pete wants nothing to do with Gardner Minshew. Oh come on now, Pete, come on. Then she was crafty. I think she would wear you out. Pete, I'm crazy. So I listen, Crafty, crafty not more than drafty doesn't

win over crazy. I have enough humility to understand that. I don't want to get in the ring with class Campbell, nor do I want to get in the ring with anybody. Yeah, that's my point. I had to crazy wins over crafty. I mean, if I have to, Yeah, I'm gonna go low and I'm gonna try to get him. You know, listen, I don't even a game plan right now against but the best, Well, his first move would go hit you in your back. I'd be over like he hit. If

he hit me anywhere, I'm done. But now this question, now this, I'll say this, Sally matched up in his prime against class Campbell and his prime playing football. MM, I like what you know? The funny thing is Claiss and I've talked about this before. Place is one of my favorite players, and we talked about football and and uh we talked about that, and I think it would be a great matchup. I have a ton of respect

for him. I told him how i'd block him, what I do and what my game play would be, and he laughed and he he would be a great matchup. It would be a great matchup. Number one eight short set him, Um, I get my hands on take away any you know, ability for him to get going. I would change up the set so because one of the things if you watch Clay's getting the rhythm, he's just brutal because he gets going. And so I'm gonna change

things up. I'm gonna cut him. I'm gonna go low on him a few times to change up, you know, and make him think, but not as much low because I was never a big cutter. I'd probably jump him more than anything and change it up. And then uh, in the run game, just you gotta get physical with him. It's gonna be tough. You gotta in the run game. You really have to take good footwork because if he starts slanting and beat you to the spot, you're dead

and he's gonna push you in the backfield. So with all that said, it would be it would be a huge, huge challenge because he's such a good player. But I would look forward to it. You your experiences, he reminds you of blocking. Um that big and tall and long. Yeah, remember no, and he Reggie White was big, not as long as he was stronger than Clayian, more powerful probably, but he wasn't as tall at that length. No, I don't. I'm not sure there's a guy I like I can

remember being so remember Sean Jones. So Sean Jones. I played against Sean Jones, so that'd be a similar body style. Sean Jones was the first guy ever played against Team greenmy Packers Sunday night football. Yeah, shutout and shut out, Pete shut out, shut out. Next question, but yeah, the long story short. I don't want to wrestle class right now, so that means him and Pete would win. We can I'd quit. We can call Tony conne see if they put it on a w Wednesday night. How much? How

much is that gonna get me? I would we have to take our shirts off? No, we have to wear a singlet shirts off like I would. The fact of like class body slamming would be that would hurt. I'd be tagging Mitschew so fast like go go Gardeners. You're out of the ring like one little boom. We throw me out like you know, boom, right out of the ring. Next questions from the Josh Hampton, what are you angry about the way the team's performing or the way fans

are reacting. And I followed up with Josh here after he asked this question, say what do you mean, like clarify a little more, and he's talking more about the offensive line play and the fans have been talking about it a lot. Are you angry about that? I'm not angry about fans. I that's fine. I have no problem with the fans. It's the easiest I mean, go around, go around the I mean the NFL. The first guy

who's gonna criticize when it's offense is the quarterback. Well, you have a young quarterback is popular and is playing well. After that, the easiest group to blame is the offensive line. Of course, it's easy. That's the easiest thing. It happens everywhere because unfair, I mean, you defend them too much. But it's almost unfair to the offensive line. And I go back to when when I used to do grades

tony in the newspaper back in the day. I'd go passing game, running game, past defense, run defense, and there was always one category for the offensive line. And why nobody else got graded like that, But that's the way they wanted it. So it's not fair to the offensive line because most people don't know what they're looking at,

including PFF. Yes, wow at times. What I'm not gonna because look, I've sat down with you and other Hutchinson and a group of current offensive lineman and to a man, they all say, you have no idea what my assignment is on that play? None, No, and especially PFF graded off the TV copy at the time. And Tony, they were sitting there watching film together, these current lineman and they were watching he said, look, I can't give you

a grade on that. I don't know what your assignment is on that play from from the players, current players, and they don't know the assignments. All right, you're preaching to the choir. So I'm not mad at the fans. It's that's been like that, no problem, I get it. But I'm gonna defend the guys. I'm gonna like, I'm gonna tell you the truth what I watch like if they don't play well, I'll tell you they don't play well. Yeah, but I think this is some of the leftovers from

when you used to defend joke on on a weekly basis. Well, he was a young guy, and I felt bad. It is again go down that road. Again. But okay, j P. Yes, have I not been critical of Cam Robinson into his footwork and some of of things you have. And I love Cam. I think Cam is like his physicality, his attitude, the way he plays the game. I love him, and

I bet he likes the critique. But like I watched him, and there's certain things that he can approve and now he has the potential of what he can be is off the chart. But like I'll tell you the truth, I like I said it on the radio yesterday, Juan Taylor got beat twice by Cam Robinson, I mean, not Camera Robinson, Cam Jordan's and the second one for sure I said it on the air and watching it might have been both, but the second one for sure he

had a time in next to him. Camera Cam Jordan's wide and instead of going out and eating up some ground and getting more uh some width in his past set, he is straight and vertical. You don't do that against Cam Jordan because he's a power guy. He's not beating you with speed. So close the distance and get some horizontal width and give yourself a chance. You're going straight back, Cam rab Cam Jordan's coming downhill on you. It's a bad,

bad combination. That doesn't make Jowant Taylor a bad player. Maybe maybe the bad set. I mean, I think I'm pretty honest about what I see in the offensive line. I mean, yeah, most of the time you are you. I mean some of the guys you defended too much well, and if anything is a result of because people say things they don't know what they're looking at, and they make comments about a group of people that they don't understand what they're doing. If you've never been in there,

never been in those rooms. I mean, this is the one position. I mean, it's the only thing that's even close to it is is a corner, a man corner. But you literally could play if you play seventy players an offensive lineman, you could play sixty eight of them perfect dominating the guy. You have two bad plays that result in tackle for a loss of sack, sack, FuMB or whatever, and now you're the you're the dog though he played terrible. Wait a second, yeah, I had two

bad plays. It's not okay. We signed up for this, by the way, we get in. But it's the easy answer to say, oh, he's terrible. No, that's not accurate. We've got two more questions. Let's stick to it anyway real quick. Remember when you said Josh Walls was going

to be a pro bowler, I never said that. By the way, he started at right tackle for the buck yesterday at Kane's jag will shot Khan ever get one of these for Jack's home games, and he put a photo from the Simpsons of Mr Burns sun blocking device yesterday. It was it was he's officially on the game book yesterday. But I will say it felt warm inside. I mean in the booth, I was fine. Yeah, but you're not. You're not. It was fine, I said it. I said,

I'm joking. In the booth, it was fine. Why I went downstairs and had my spread, my turkey sam My big spread and everything in my free soda and everything's in the crowd. Stop it. Well, you were down there before. The game wasn't hot. Anyone doesn't sound hot. Though it was. It was warmer than that. Remember like every once in a while, Pet, back in the day, you'd have like those late November December games and you get on the field that the sun was beating down You're like, oh

my gosh, it's hot out here. It was one of those games. Are this is October. It was one of those games. It was warm. What what's what's what's the question? What does he want them to do? They want to put this shade like, yeah, I think before that happens, they get a new stadium somewhere where south side. Why they're gonna do you realize they're building all the infrastructure around here. I don't think they're going to But where would they put a new stadium down there? Right where?

Right now? Yeah? But you can't knock that down and build another one while you're you gonna play, Well, you don't have to go play somewhere else for a year. Let's uh yeah, who knows? Do you have to or build their own practice facility first informal post or what you could do? Why why you can build a nice facility and press facility right there by the way. You could do that. You could do what they did in Soldier Field. Build it within the stadium that is already existing.

Could happen, you know what, That's what Soldier Field did. Basically. The final question from Samuel of Duval. Can we finally have a conversation about replacing Tony with Logman on the show? Tony's lisp is distracting and has no at all attitude, is growing thin with a fan base. I didn't think so either. That's like the first I've ever heard that he doesn't know at all attitude though, Yes, Lisp, that's I've never heard that. Samuel of duval um so could try.

That's a swing and miss by you, buddy. Attitude how to present right? And I know it all. Attitude will tell Samuel duval sie you you don't know what you're talking about. You're wrong. I'm right bye bye. See if that was directed to you, you just block him on Twitter? Right? Oh? Hell yeah? The list though, I've never heard that before. You're self conscious. You know what he's doing. He's confusing the way you normally speak with how you read your read.

I was. I'm forty seven years old. That's the first time in forty seven years I've ever been accused of. Yeah, we're back in a moment. I read a card the other night too on the national broadcast. Nailed it. Congratulations, we're back. We'll go around the AOC South. Let's do that and then we'll go around the league. How about that sounds good? It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's Haymade Vodka is America's original craft vodka.

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Pete Prisco. We look around the a f C South. We start with the standings and the order is the same for the last couple of weeks. After yesterday's action, Houston now four and two, India was off their three into Jacksonville and Tennessee two and four at the bottom of the division and all the action yesterday. Boy, the Texans go in and get a win against the Chiefs at Arrowhead thirty one four. They had a long game winning touchdown drive in the fourth quarter to take the

lead for good. Texans got a time well. One of the worst calls of the year that hurt the Chiefs was that they call pass interference. Then they realized they can't call pass interference because the ball is not intended to Kelsey. The reality was a hold all along, you got tackled, which you can't review, and it and it led to an interception. I mean, they just butchered the call. The officiating again, it's just out of control and they were going in to go up nine. Yeah, it would

have changed the entire outlook of the game. But what they should have done is said, look, we can't call pass interference on that. But even so, it's a whole five yard penalty automatic first let down and for or just you know or whatever. The biggest thing is there's an interception on that play, right So but good, Hey, give Houston credit. It's a big win going it's a tough place to go play. They got it done, they got some breaks, but they still win the game. You know,

the cults are off. The Titans are a dumpster fire right now. They've got major issues bench the quarterback yesterday. And so it's easy go look at the standings right now. The power rankings are the same my book, Houston one, Indy two, Jags three, and Texans for Titans for correct. That's the way it is easy and and by the way, the Texans and Colts play this week, where at Pete. Indeed, Colts win that game. Back to back road games for the Texans, that's always tough. I would agree with you.

I think the Colts win that game as well. Oh I'm going the other way because you're picked stink lately, so gonna pick the other team they do. We're gonna lock it. No, no locks. Would you end up this week on picks beat against the spread three and eleven or you lost some money? No, I didn't. I'll tell you what people who follow my picks online. I told him. I said, um, you've got a better chance of flipping a coin. Well, you don't put a lot of time into it, No I do. I just I made that pigs.

I thought I picked Cleveland. I thought Cleveland would beat Seattle. You didn't know I had the Rams. I did too, I had I had the Chiefs. You did too, I had. I did pick Miami to cover, and they did. I picked Jacksonville. I mean that's five right there, and you agree with me to buy Your record must not have been much better, butsell well, I got I got four of those. You just said wrong one I got right. Did you get the Jets? No, let's uh, you're not

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Back Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shaddrick Tony was silly. Pete Priscoe, I'll tell you my back hurts because it's good. More us. Why is it getting worse? Sitting here? The problem stretched at all? No, I take effort. You walk around every commercial break. We don't know where you go. I've not moved this whole hour. That is a lie. I left for coffee at the top. Thank you. That was fifty minutes ago, you idiot. But not to say you haven't moved all day. I said all hours show,

I said all our listen, clean your ears out? Wrong with you? How did you do this again? I was lifting weights this one. That's really What were you doing? What exact exercise were you doing that you hurt your back? I think I got me on the dumbbell squats? What are you doing squats for? Come on? Come on, man, wasn't that your nickname in high school? Dumbbell squats? Weaver says he's got some ibia profen for if you want, who does reverer? I need like eight of the video producer.

Let's go around the National Football League Week six games. The Panthers over the Bucks in London. McCaffrey scored a couple of times. Yeah, there was Uh, that's not the story. He only had like sixty total yards of offense. The story was seven turnovers by the Buccaneers, five interceptions in a fumble by Jamis. He was terrible and he threw for four hundred and it's their their Their offensive line was awful of Yeah, it wasn't all jamis defenses. It

wasn't well. The Jacks had over five hundred yards offense against that Panther's defense. It was not all of Jamis. It was he got hit a couple of times of ball fluttered. Um. But he's got to be smarter with football. Bruce Arians said it best afterwards, Jamis can't be a hero every place. It's okay to punt it away every once in a while. But they've told him that since he's come into the league. Because I remember Dirk Cutterson the exact same thing to I'm not saying Dirk didn't

say it. I'm just saying what Bruce said. Yesterday, we had a free kick try at the end of the first half. Pretty cool, they missed it. Ravens over the Bengals seventeen. Lamar Jackson ran for a hundred touchdown and through one of thirty three for two thirty six. Yeah. I had him in fantasy, so I think I had a good week. Yeah, you had a good week. He can't run that much though consistently. I don't think yesterday slow that role a little bit. Keep going because the

Seahawks over the Browns. Russell Wilson went for another hundred plus rating games. So let's stop right there. I want to talk about Seattle. The f C, the NFC West is fascinating to me. You have the Seahawks who are really good or playing really good, I should say, but winning close games because Russell Wilson is amazing right now, right now, absolutely. You have the ra AM's who started three and oh like world beaters, have lost the last three.

They're three and three and you have the undefeated San Francis Cisco Forts. They beat the Rams seven yesterday with the best with the best defensive football because they have the best defensive line. The defensive football is in New England. Stopped. No it's not, Pete, No it's not. No, it's not. You saw them in first stop in person. No, they're not. They're historically good right now, Pete, Have they played anybody? Yes,

the Patriots have not. The total combined record of the Patriots opponents outside the Buffalo Bills is three and one. So that's why they've been of the teams that the forty niners are beaten outside of the Rams, who are three and three. I don't know. Let's go. Look, they beat the big Tampa Bay, they beat Pittsburghsburg with the first game without doesn't matter. That's that. Don't make excuses, just go through it. That's who they beat. They played

five games, Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland Rams. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of good ones on that that group. It's better than the Dolphins, the Jets. At least they beat a team with a winning records, haven't. So let me ask you a question, what front four would you rather have the Patriots who you can't name, would rather have what what group of cover guy was? Rather well, if Stefan Gilmore's there, i want Stephan Gillmore because he's probably

the best corner of football right now. I'm not saying the pat what they got on the back end, and and John's playing good football. You're not paying attention. The team is playing well. You're not paying attention. Pete Chung has been hurt. Don't tell me, Okay, you've lost all credibility with me. You're out. You've not paying attention attention your own Jackson with Chung's there, he hasn't been playing the way both accordies are playing outstanding. My point is

not I wasn't making the Patriots are very good. I just think because of the front four at the end of the year, the forty niners, if they stay healthy, will be the best defense. They could stop the run. They have Bosa and d four coming off the head the force. Buckner is a beast in the situation. By the way pass rusher Solomon Thomas, who's a top five pick. They are a good football team, and they dominated dominated the Rams and the major issues they got old and

they were getting pushed around. The game I can't wait for is the forty Niners Seahawks. Those are the best two teams. The Rams are the third place team. They might not make the playoffs after being one of the Super Bowl favorites. It's fascinating division, it really is. And let's go to the other team in that game we were just talking about. The Browns are two and four. Is Freddie Kitchens on the hot seat? Well, I mean I thought they were gonna win the super Bowl there.

I thought they were going to the playoffs. They forgot one big, most important thing. They let their offensive line become an issue. And I'll just tell you Pete and I'm not gonna kill him like a lot of people, but Baker Mayfield has a long way to go. He's not He's not great. I've seen him live, I saw him in person. I've watched his tape. You see highlights down. Everyone wants to blame the offensive line, which is not great, but Baker makes him real questionable club throws and well,

they had a chance. They were up twenty to twelve or twelve. I think it wasn't a chance to get a touchdown, and he threw it in red zone interception and zone interceptions he needs. He leads the NFL and interceptions if I'm not mistaken, and uh, I think he tries to force the ball to Odell Beckham too much too. Let's continue with the other games. Redskins over the Dolphins.

When the Dolphins screwed up the two point play at the end after scoring a touchdown, they were gonna go for the win, but they threw like a wide receiver kind of screen thing and right at the line of scrimmage and the guy dropped the ball. I didn't see it. I heard it was an awful play call wasn't in But do they care? I think they're trying to get a quarterback? How about Josh Rosen, former first round Pick's gonna be kicked out from the team by two guys

the first overall pick back to back years. Vikings There, they're gonna end up with twa tank for Vikings over the Eagles. Kirk Cousins was good yesterday. Probably the biggest game Kirk Cousins has ever played because it was against a good team. Right, that's the first I look, I killed a guy. I gotta give kudos to him. He

was outstanding. Um. He sets up a huge NFC East matchup to three and three teams, the Cowboys and the Eagles for the leaded and don't look now, but guess there's one game back the New York Super Giants, right, and they play Arizona this and they play Arizona And if they get they're gonna get sae Quon back. They're gonna get ingram back, and they're gonna get uh Sterley Shepard back. That's that's a team. I watched him against the Patriots. Played really good defense against the Patriots. They

get the production this. The NFC East is another one of a bunch of mediocre teams that'll be fun to watch. The Eagles are terrible on defense, particularly the second BAF. Is they make a move. Should they call the Jaguars about Jaalin Listen, I'll make the trade. You give me two first rounders a second rounder and give me Zach Earth right now, and you can have Jen Ramsey. Okay, yeah, who's gonna do that? Nobody? Okay? How about this? Would you do a one or two in Earth's Yes? I

went to right now. Cardinals over the Falcons. Atlanta missed an extra point late. Jets me the Cowboys the Steelers over the Chargers in front of Steeler fans at the Soccer State. The NFL has a major issue coming right down its path, and it's it's not going away the Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Chargers should not be in l A. They cannot. They cannot sell out at twenty see Stadium with their fans because there's nobody that cares. They're trying to sell PSLs at this new stadium, the Ram.

The Rams are selling them for four times as much as the Chargers. I've been told, and the Chargers still can't sell anyone. They're gonna go play in this new stadium that's gonna seats and nobody is going to be there because nobody cares that they're in l A. They need to go back to San Diego tomorrow. They needed the league needs to step in. They need to go to stand Croskey and say, Stand, we need to you

to let them out of their twenty year leads. Will will take care of it, will help you out, but this is ridiculous. It's a bad look for the NFL. Chargers are at Tennessee, at Chicago and then home against the Green Bay Packers. Another way by the way, the place was all Steelers fans. But I can honestly tell you this. I was at a Cowboys Steelers game in the old tech To Stadium Bay back in the day and it was more Steeler fans in there than Cowboys.

That's not the point, Pete. It's twenty six thousand c stadium. They can't fill it. I agree, it's a problem. Monday Night football first place up for grabs. A big battle in the NFC North. Matt Stafford and the two one and one Detroit Lions visit lambeau Field in Green Bay. They'll face Aaron Rodgers on the Ford one green Bay Packers. The Lions have won four straight in this series. Who you got tonight? Um, I'm going with the better quarterback

and that's Aaron Rodgers. But give Matt Patricia a lot of credit. He's got those those guys believe in. The Lions are playing good football, team football. Nothing one part is standing out. But I mean, this is a team that should have beat uh who they have on the ropes? Uh that they let off the Rams. They should have been the night Arizona and they shouldn't been Arizona. They had the chief Sorry the Chiefs dead the rights. This is a good football team. But I'm with Pete on

the Packers. Make a pick. I'm going green Bay, Pete. I'm going green Bay, Absolutely green Bay. That means the Lions will win. I'm to get one right. JAG's over the Bengals this week, Tony. Yeah, I think the Jacks are gonna win this because I'm not gonna lock it. Because the lock has been bad luck. We're gonna stay away from the lock this week. Pete. I think they win the next two, all right, Things will get back to even. I think they win the next five, all right, Pete,

we'll talk to you. Pete Prisco, CBA Sports Senior Writer, Tony Boselli. We need this one. This is a must You never like having a must win game in week seven, but it is. I'm J. P. Shattrick. See next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network