Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 11

on Monday. Prior to the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli has chosen to join us in studio tonight. We love seeing that Titans thirty seven Jaguars nineteen. A lot of missed opportunities in the game. Some calls didn't go the Jaguars way. We'll get into that coming up and the mindset behind that right or wrong. Social media questions plenty of those, and we'll go around the National Football League and here's some of the top radio calls from around

the league. Let's start off with the twenty consecutive loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars now and five to start the season, and Urban Meyer after the game, desperate for a dub pretty desperate, desperate for win, desperate the way they go to work each day each week, desperate for a win. And uh, you know we can't worry about the past, worried about the future and a trip to London and try to get a win. Guys. You know some guys are playing their tails off, and but yeah, we're desperate

for win. I gotta get it at some point, Tony, good afternoon to you, Good afternoon, no beat today, must be here. Oh, so there you are. Look at the purple shirt. You know you look like you look like either Bernie or Grimace. I can't decide which one. You're the same body tip, you're the same body type you're talking about now you're left tackle. Jacksonville Wars six win seven, three hundred and fifty pounds. Tony selling for the whole, Up for the whole ceremony next year, unreal JP, the

team stakes. Let's talk about the cell he's getting in next year. Okay, because he's getting in. I can you oh you think it's a slam duck? Now, lamp dunk this year. He doesn't like that either, apparently, so Urban. Urban said after the game, desperate for a win, desperate and five they felt like they've been playing a little better the last few weeks, and yesterday happened that didn't feel like a better all around games. Let me ask you,

this is my I actually like Trevor's comments. That's something we might get to later about. Hey, listen, yeah, we want to win. We've gotta go the process, about hard work, you know, and all that. I like this talk, and I get what Urban saying, But isn't everyone desperate in the NFL every Sunday for a win. I mean, when we were winning, I was desperate for a win because losing stinks. I mean so I And I'm not making

light of what he's saying by any means. Um. I do think the danger of that is you start pressing in like like like okay, because everyone is desperate, everyone wants to win every Sunday. It's about doing the little things right, like being more desperate. Um, unless it's gonna make you focus more, unless you to make you do the little things right. And if that's the case and be desperate. But that's the difference between winning and losing.

And that's why I was, you know, making faces that nobody could see um and wanted to say something so bad when you were going down the rundown. Is like, and they're getting bad calls. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. That's what you said. I said some calls maybe didn't go their way, won't go through the instead of that, right or wrong? You want to run back to tape, Joe, don't we can run? Yeah, that's not what I said. What I said again, those are

all things you hear from teams who don't win. Right. And here's the other thing. You want to be desperate? How about desperation allowing you to know who's on the field in certain situations. How about desperation in that scenario? I mean, you know, how about desperation saying that your quarterback can't run the quarterback sneak but he says he can. I mean, there's there's what does that mean? Desperation? Of course, everybody wants to win, but you're desperate for a win.

And he's only had five of them, by the way, you know, there's twenty of them. Some of those guys have had twenty, but they're even probably even more desperate. It just look, it's a bad situation in a lot of ways right now, it really is. And if they don't win this week, they have a legitimate chance to get that record. Okay, I'm gonna put it out there. This is their opportunity to go win the game. Miami's

not very good. Uh, there's some talk that to it could be back this week, but this is the week. You gotta go win the game. And you know they've been they've been in games. Second half has been bad in a lot of situations. Why is that? You know what? What's the reasoning for that? So I think there's a lot of questions here with this team, and first and foremost the head coach. Let's be real in the coaching

the players. We know Tony, we know where the players are. Okay, this roster needs help in the worst way in a lot of situations. But how do you not know Robinson is not on the field on the play now, it doesn't matter. Barry Sanders was in the gaming with the score, didn't know nothing, and I'll go sneak it there or run him inside. Well, Trevor after the game said, you know they shifted up front and close those a gaps.

He was thinking about maybe sneaking it. Then that happened he couldn't do it, so well, yeah, but he still can't. I mean, go go watch Tom Brady, Like, if you want to know how to quarterback sneak, put the tape on a Tom Brady because maybe the greatest quarterback sneaker ever. There's a YouTube video of just his Sitnay, somebody said it to me during the game. He's unreal And it didn't matter what the look was he was getting. He was getting a yard. You can push two Yeah, now

you can push put someone behind. I mean you can. I mean, there's so it wasn't like it was a full yard you're trying to get. It was six inches. If that um and so I would have snuck it there. Um so. So in other words, bad decision, bad decision off tackle I don't love. But again, it ran up the middle and it got forced outside. Yeah, that's fair enough. It was a terribly blocked play. I mean, I'm not I mean, it didn't matter who was in the game. So I disagree with James Robinson not being in there

from first down on, not just fourth down. Um, he's your best offensive player right now now, Trevor Lawrence is going to be your best player, is the most talented player, but your most productive football player maybe on the entire team,

of anyone who was playing professional football in Jacksonville. James Robinson no Urban, said today that he didn't think he was dinged up, so there was nothing to that, and and and get the two fifties going to get every week, so before we go there, but I want to go back because there's been a lot of criticism of Daryl Bevel from the entire series from first and five when they didn't get in and I want to and the James Robins shouldn't been there. Why aren't you running on

them first down? First and five? And I actually don't disagree with Darryl Bubble's play call on first down, And if you go watch the tape, it's a great play call. It's a man coverage, it's a return route, Channault has separation. If the balls delivered on target, it's a touchdown. And we're not even having this conversation right now. Now. What I don't love is after that not having your best running back in the game and giving to him at least once, if not twice because they had not stopped

him all day. Um, but the first down call, good play call. But it was like if when when when the type threw down there that one time, I was sitting there and say I'd give it to Henry four straight times to say go ahead and stop me. That's what do you have to do with a guy like when you got down there, gab Robinson in the game. If you don't want to run them four straight times, that's fine, but at least have him in the game. It is ridiculous bad. So again, is that why they

lost the game? There's no guarantee they come back and win it. It It wasn't. I mean they were still behind, they're still down, they still need a touchdown to win it. It was it had been down five. Tennessee still is gonna have the ball. Um. And by the way, they could have stopped Tennessee again if they didn't. And so there's a lot and this is where I what I don't like, and I listen, I'm fine like reviewing the

game and going through it. But the bottom line, you're down three score game, three score game in the mid third quarter, actually late third quarter, after an eleven play drive to open the second half by Tennessee. So like, let's not put it all on whether we call quarterback sneak or not, you know, in most other games and

we're gonna go through them later. Around the NFL, as we talk about most weeks, there's back and forth games and scores by both sides, and they're down the field and a couple of defenses will make a stop, then somebody will make a play and take a lead. Then there's another This was in desperation to try to get back in the game every week. And you know I've heard a lot you know, well the fanom pass interference call. Well, I guess what if you make the interception before that,

it never happened. First of all, I mean I think there's if you're Tennessee, you could argue there's a fantom hold call that extended to drive. I mean my point is I could do this all day with every game. You can do it all day. The bottom line, the teams that win don't do that. They find ways to win. They find ways to make plays. Like by the way, Shack Griffin is a heck of a football player, and he would tell you he's got to make that play. He said it every week he's dropped plug. Yes, that's

a that's a that's a that's a house call. And he's a great player. He's a probably best defensive player consistently and everything else. Good player. And I'm not trying to kill him and putting the game on him. But this the game, the NFL game is is determined by a handful of plays every game and by playmakers. That's how this thing works out. You know, I agree, I agree, and and And you can't complain about the officiating when you're not a good football team. I'm sorry, you just can't.

Fans can't. They can't. They lost that game. They weren't winning that game, period. They lost the game. They weren't better than the Titans. You had a chance to score and making a five point game and then hold him. Well, then you didn't score. Well, then what do they do? They were right down the field. H It's true, that's true. What better? Were they better in any area yesterday than they have been? Tony yes or no? Robinson? Running the football? They ran the ball really well. And I thought the

offensive line blocked well up front. Uh in the run game. Okay, in the past game, Um, I think a positive it so far. I think Ben Bartch, I mean he was terrible last year as a rookie coming out of the Division three school. I mean he is. He is so improved. I'm notna say he's like all pro, but he's a he played, He's played good the last couple of weeks. He's a solid player. I give him credit. Um, James mc l high ankle. So you're probably talking four to

six Urban said four to five weeks today. Um, James Robson is a stud. I mean, the only thing that is making James Robinson like an all Pro running back is having the extra gear that he can run away from people. That's right, But he is a on that on that run, on that one run down the side, he should have been gone. That's just not him. I mean he can't break away all the way. That's his career long run. Breese Jokes, Drew and Fred Taylor are gone on that run and going by about fifteen yards.

But I'll say this, James, James Robinson has as good as vision is like almost any back, and he makes cuts that a lot of guys don't make, and he is a good running back. They can help blockers. He is I mean, he is good. Gosh, he's a good football player and they drafted running back in the first round. Let's not go there right now. Um, like James Robinson, you can win a championship with a running back like

James Robinson. Correct, Yes you can. And you know what you do, You go find a third down back that you can probably find in the second, third, fourth round. That is shifty. Yeah, like your backup shouldn't be like him, No, not at all. But you know, there's a good moments. I mean that, I'll give him credit. I thought I thought it could go sideways really quick. After the fumble return for a touchdown, they came back and answered that

was big time. That's something you build on. It was like it was like the drive last week where they gave up fourteen straight points to tie the game and then they go down the field and score and regain the king. It shows you that they have some character, they have some they have some guts in that locker room, and Tony up until the last drive, they did a

decent job with Derrick Henry. Yeah, I mean it was the It was like the most unimpactful hundred and thirty nine yard three touchdown game by running back in the history of the game. Yeah, I mean it really was. What did he have going into the fourth quarter he didn't have. It wasn't that much. I think he had like seventy five for It's just yeah, it was a good game. Actually hit him a little bit too, so, but it's gonna be I agree with. I mean, this is a big week and they're beat up. I mean

they're beat up and they're not gonna have lender for sure. Miles. Jack will see day to day, but going across the pond is not easy when you're beat up. Um. You know, we'll see about you know, uh the corner of the rookie corner. Um, we're gonna see as the days go along. Here. Urban said today about Harris Roy should be back, he said that was last week, he said last week. So

hopefully Claybrooks had a little rough go of it yesterday. Yeah, you know what, before we go down this path, we'll come back and we'll get defense when we come back, because there were some communication changes yesterday and I think there were some issues it looked like from from the boot. Yeah, I think so as well, Tony. We'll get into those when we come back. Plenty of Ahead. Of course, in the second hour, we'll answer your social media questions go

around the National Football League. We've got plenty ahead recapping the Jaguars lost to the Tennessee Titans in Week five. We're off and running. It's Jaguars Happier Our presented by Jet Home Loans on the jag Words, Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. I feel like the defense could have done a lot more. Flattened mistakes that we had was the change. It just didn't happen. And um, that's the part we got to do better. We have to fix. Hey, so but um so far. Man, It's it's a tough thing.

It's something that you don't want. It's something you've gotta change. You know, you gotta do it. And one thing about it, I continue to believe it's better thing to have faith. And that's the hardest part, you know, that's the hardest part for everybody to team gears like the LEA. It's not just me, you know, I can't it can't do be one person to leave in the South. And so you know that's the part that to continue to express, continue to talk about get everybody and believing that we

can't win these games. Um, yeah, I mean it's it's it's a tough one. That's Shack Griffin after the game yesterday and welcome back. It's Jaguars happy at We're on a Monday afternoon, but Jaguar was there oh and five, and they dropped yesterday's game thirty seven nineteen to the Tennessee Titans. Now four in a row. They've lost to Tennessee eight of the last nine to the Titans as well, and the Jaguars now dropped twenty consecutive games, the third

most in league history. That will be the national story moving ahead of here. Defense defense, defense couldn't get off the field except for one drive in the first half, and then there was a little surgeon there in the second half where they after they gave up the long touchdown drive to go up three scores, they had three straight drives where they had an opportunity at least to give the offense to move down the field. They stopped them a few times and they ran out of gas.

So not making plays, gett't get didn't get the interception they urban. Meyers said it was a mandate to get to the quarterback. They got there a little bit more, but not enough. That's a bad offensive line. The Jets had seven sacks. The Cardinals had like nine or seven or nine. They had seventeen sacks giving up coming in over four weeks. Yesterday three sacks, four or no, excuse me, eight quarterback hits yesterday and one of the sacks was no game. I mean he was scrambling out. Okay, two sacks,

it's still not good enough. I mean those crossing routs take a half hour. I mean sometimes they go, they come from they come from McClenny on those routes. STU is their traffic on the interchange. I don't know. Yeah, Oh gosh, who would have thought we'd be sitting here losing twenty straight games. That is hard to do in a leak that is set up for parodys. Had to let's get into something here real quick. Okay, what the

side of the ball? Oh my god, he says, why it took you four weeks to find out that Miles Jack shouldn't be wearing the green dot? Because I did a deep dive. What the hell is that? Well, didn't we have We had this discussion a lot last season, right, he wasn't wearing it. It was his best campaign as a prose to we know that you know that Tony knows that. The fans though that why don't they know that Tony? I have no answer. These are there's certain

things I can't even answer because I don't know. Um. Well, when you go to Miles Jack and say, hey, Miles, do you play better? Do you like wearing the green dot? All? You can't trust a player. They're gonna tell you whatever. I mean, go back. I have no idea. I have no idea. The bottom line is. The bottom line is is Week one had issues and not putting this all Miles. Yeah, they had plays, are getting in late guys running on off the field. Week two and three and four he

did not play his best football. So now all of a sudden you're like, oh, my favorite is I still? I mean, it's well, we realized that he plays better without the green dot. Well, okay, we've been Now, if the like if it was me and and I'm assuming like that Joe Colin or or Urban or someone had a conversation with Miles Jack before they decided to put the green dot, and and if Miles said no, I feel good about it, then the comment is, you know what, we tried it Miles really wanted to do it, felt

like you could do it. Um, we're just deciding now based on early early season whatever we're gonna make a change, Like that would be logical, I guess, because new staff. You want to trust your see you want to trust your players. But just to come out, well he played better, Well we know he played better less year without the green dot, Like that was like we all knew that. So here's the deep It took a deep study and before to figure that out. So here's the questions. That's

what they said. You read the quote, Yeah, deep study. It did not say that. Read the quote, Jake, you have it. I don't have it in front of me. I can find it, though, But yes, it was something to that effect. And so who's wearing the green dot when it was not a bunch of people. It seemed like it's at one point it was Damian Wilson, but he's off the field. Like then I guess Rachel and wear it. And then that's a lot of moving green DUTs,

a lot of green dots. It seems not ideal. And it felt like I'm always careful to say this, but from the booth it didn't. It just feel like there was some like this organization at times. Well, I mean the guy's running ten yards wide open on the crossing somewhere and someone didn't and then the tight ended pruitt. No one's who was responsible for that? I think I think chas on and watching the tapeete, everyone else is a man and Chason is just standing and no man's sand. Yeah,

they were all playing. They played banned because they had the crossers and you could see Shack for Eidence's go with the crosser and and he vacated that area and there was nobody. It looked like is that who what looked like? Jason Van said today he had one middle air and I'm guessing that was it. Yes, it was a big one. It was a big one. I mean

he was wide open um. But you know, like there's a play where they tipped the ball at the line of scrimmage, and if you go back and watch that play on the tape, that was a big play kind of on a cross or remember Tony, I don't know if you remember they tipped the ball at the line of scrimmage. It would have been a huge crossing route that might have gone for a touchdown. Yeah, they didn't they. You gotta rush the PA to stop those crossing routes. I don't care how good a defensive back you are.

You give them that much time, they're gonna get open. They're gonna beat you across the field. Look how painful this is the longest place for Tennessee twenty six yards in the second quarter, Tannehill to Rogers deep right twenty six yards. First quarter, Tannehill McNichols twenty five yards, tanne Hill to Brown's twenty two yards, Tannehill middle to Johnson's twenty two yards, and tanne Hill to Johnson twenty yards. I mean, just just Chip Brooks on both of those.

I mean again, though, I don't care if you're the greatest defensive back of the world. That's a tough ask to be covering that guy across the field with bodies getting picked in through there and everything. That's a tough defensive responsibility, and particularly you don't have great pressure, you have to have to. Yeah, again after the quarterback better than it did. Look Chasun was a little more active on Sunday. I gotta give him a little bit of props.

They're not great by no means worth where he was picked, but he was a little more active, I thought. So he made a play in the run game where he came from it. I don't know what you thought. I thought it was a little bit better. No. I thought it was his best game as a pro. Six tackles, sack, two tackles for lost, three quarterback hits. He was running around, he was physical. I thought he played good. I mean outside the n l air. I thought Jason played well.

I mean Hamilton's. Hamilton's made a couple of nice plays again for the second game in a row. But here's the thing. This is the I mean, you gave up thirty one points as a as a as a defense take away, the fumble recovery. No. My point is, but we keep on saying guys are playing good. Well, someone's not playing good if you're getting thirty one points, Yeah, thirty points, thots whatever, one, Okay, like the one play. If I'm not mistaken, then was that it was the

playing McNichols. That was Damian Wilson had to cover him. That was that was a brutal ass covered him across the field. Well, that's because Myles Jack's on the sideline was at the game, or was he just out because of the situation. For situation, it was early in the game, first half, and so you have Damian Wilson a man. Well, he doesn't do that as well as Miles. My guess is he was because in the past Miles has been staying on the field. Damian Wilson has been going off

in certain situations. My guess is, as the green dot, you gotta have a green dot out. You have to have the green dot. Two of them. We'll see. Now that's a problem because strength isn't playing in coverage that everybody we know that we're green and then okay, so so so let's and there it is. There's more coaching blunders. Let's deep taget. We'll just keep telling him up. I mean, that's just bad coaching. If you gotta if you have to keep David Wilson on the field because he's the

green dot, he can't cover anybody a problem. We are assuming that Pete. We don't know that for sure, but that's our assumption. I switched the green dot he was wearing it. That's a pretty good assumption. The second half they did switch the green dot. They gave yeack and you can't have two on the field the same time. So who has it? Who doesn't you know? It's guys coming And I'll just give it to race on the

whole time. He's out there every snapetan guy. Maybe they should do a deep dive this week to see who should wear the green dot, Peter, other teams having these issues with green dots. This is this is the first

I've heard about. Okay, Tony back to who's on the field certain times, I know there are coaches that don't know who's in the game in every situation, But shouldn't we shouldn't urban have known who was on the field, and that you shouldn't you know that James Robbins is not on the field enough or at least in that situation, and I'm wrong about that. I'll tell you what. Let's

come back. We'll get the thrilling answer from Tony Boselli as we flipped back, think about my answer, Yes, a little bit of timeat needs a little bit of time for this one to think about his response. Plenty more ahead offensive talk when we return, including yes, that goal line situation in the fourth quarter when the Jags are trying to rally back. Second hour coming up, We'll get to your social media questions and go around the National

Football League. Check out the Official Jags Podcast Network on Happy Tune, Spotify, or wherever you download your podcast. And this is Jaguar's Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. And that was tough, and you know it was score there and defense goes back on the field, gets to stop, get the ball back to go win the game. Um, yeah, we had a couple of barely miss Lavisco I think

it was on that drive down the red zone. Yeah, he ran a great route, had him in zone, went went to one hand. I'm gonna give him their fur there and then you know I thought I got in and say they reversed it, um or overturned it whatever, gonna play the next play and you think about like four inches just that's tough. You know, they want to be able to punch that in and weren't able to. You know, the obviously tightens did a good job there,

but let's disappointed for sure. That's Trevor Lawrence after the game on the goal line situation and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, and apparently during our time out, Tony Pete Priscoe had a bit of a wardrobe malfunction. According to sources, I don't know what happened there, Peter. You had to take to take my microphone off to do something bad information? Were you sureless? I'm glad we didn't get to see it.

I know that. No. I could promise you. It was my microphone. I had to push push it back up. I do it all the time. My sound is ten times better now, isn't it than when I had the earbuds. Um, yes, it is. I could tell already, you know. Try. I like Trevor's comments. You know, I love I appreciate you. Trevor. He's like, listen, I gotta throw a better ball. He just owns it. He's like, I mean, I could listen to him talk football all day because he's a pro. He's a prose pro five games into a season the

way he handles him. So yeah, I'm impressed. I think you handle any question, any topic, and and just flow with it. It's impressive. But when does when does it start getting Because you know it's coming at some point because everything with him, is his all new and everything. But at some point, you know how quarterbacks get, Tony get a little, a litttle testy at times. It's coming. I I hope he does. He should, that's part of

the deal. Oh, I agree, I agree, Tony. Would you have snuck anyway even after the shift on that fourth and one play? I'm not a quarterback, Yes I would, I would no matter what. Just go for it. Yeah. Now they threw one. They threw one for a touchdown earlier on fourth and goal. I didn't like that call, but it worked. It was a great design for tight ends, getting big people out there gonna match up you like, so I give him credit. I mean a throw to the back left corner with the one yard I wouldn't

like that. Everybody's favorite. I would have liked that on third down. Um, but it worked. Um. I just watch everyone else sneak no matter what, not, no matter what, but like and I and this is such. I mean, this is always here, but it is what it is. Tom Brady, I don't think he was ever worried about who the line. He just would sneak it and by the way, get up there before they can shift. It's quick. Snap him and push and pushed. Right now they had

another goal to go situation where they quarterback draw. That was a great play that But that was like from the third three yards that I was sitting there watching and then I go, here comes the quarterback draw. You could see it right away and he was that's what they were doing. How did the Titans not get ready for that? I was so obvious they were ready the second time when they tried to call it again. Yeah, so, and Tony didn't answer my question before the break. What

was the question again? Have you ever been around where the coach doesn't know who's playing in a certain situation or an important situation, or who's on the field, Yes or no? I don't know. I've never been around a coach who admits he didn't know who's on the field. How about that? But did Tom know it was on the field when he was coaching? I would assume so he knew everything else that was going on in this world world, like what time it was setting the time, Yeah,

he knew. He knew what color they were painting the inside of the building. He knew everything else. So I assumed he knew exactly like my only like coaching like experience is high school. So I'm not trying to say it's the same as the NFL. But I coached the offense UM, and I knew to a person who was out there on every place, especially if it was my best player. Like if the best player wasn't out there, I knew that, like either he's hurt or get him

in there. But you were coaching that. You were coaching the unit. I mean, Urban's technically not coaching either unit. I know because I was. I kind of I helped Mark call the offense, so I knew. I didn't know every position. Well okay, and Tom didn't call the offense, but he was involved with it. But okay, with Tom know who's on the field during defense, certain defensive situations and big moments. I would think, But isn't isn't isn't Urban more of an offensive guy? Though, yeah, he looks.

It's a weird situation all the way around. I guess let's say you didn't know. Let's say so I just wouldn't some things, you know. Part of it, Pete is also how you communicate things you build confidence and how you or you lose confidence. How you communicate Like that's just not for urban it's like all people of all walks of life, and so you don't admit it. I would just say, yeah, I knew he wasn't in there.

I have confidence to Carl's side. Maybe I'm wrong, And now he said he compounded by saying he didn't know he didn't get the carries in the second half they were cut down. He didn't know that. How did not know that? I don't know. Yeah, I'll say today he said today that he has spent most of his time on the offensive side. Kind of let's the defense do their thing with Joe Cullen and and maybe he might be involved a little bit more. Just to be moving

ahead here, But go back to offense. I'm looking at the receiving stats. Channault and Jones combined for two catches in the game yesterday. Yeah, that's not good. Top two receivers right now, Well now they're not their third time receivers, Dan Arnold, Now he is sure. That's what it's gonna look at. That's the amazing thing about that, by the way, guys, is like, look at the go go through to top

the bottom on the catches in that game. All right, here we go, Dan Arnold eight targets, six catches, sixty four yards. Wasn't here to start the season. Go ahead, keep going. Jamal Agnew eight targets, six catches, forty one yards along of eight converted wide convert and wide receiver who was forced to fly because of injury. Go ahead, keep going. Six catches long of eight About that table on Austin five catches on five targets fifty four yards.

Wasn't there until late in the process of the training camp. Go ahead, keep going. Three targets, one catch, fifty eight yards, most of that running. Yeah, and again he should be getting the ball more, you would think, and Urban said they wanted him to be a ten touch guy every game. Marvin Jones five targets, one catch, twenty five yards. She again should be more, Bob, But keep going. And I think if you go, there's two guys that weren't on the team too, there's four more left. Dario Gunbally one

catch nineteen yards late. Yeah, Luke Farrell one target, one catch, thirteen yards, tight end, Go ahead, keep going. Jacob hollisterr. One target, one catch, one yard, touchdown. Wasn't on the team until late in the process. Go ahead, and the final one James Robinson one target, one catch of minus two yards. Okay, that's who Trevor Lawrence is throwing, rowing the football. To think about that for a second. And aside from Austin and Agnew, who are little guys with

speed were what do you expect? Chanel doesn't run, he's not fast, Marvin Jones isn't fast. It's a bad group. It's a bad group. What are they gonna do? That's not a good group? And whatever I think it's the last two. It's the same thing. It's just not a good group. That's what they are though look good and they couldn't get it there is Tony, That's what they would have taken. But are they gonna fix it before London? No? No,

Well but that just tells you. Okay, what I'm trying to say is it says a lot about Trevor Lawrence, is what I'm trying to say. As a player. Anybody who would remotely be discouraged by what he's doing is foolish because he's going to be a star. He's throwing to those guys and he's still performing at a pretty high level. It's not great, but he's still doing a good job. If he had some real legitimate threats on the field, I'd love to be able to see what

he would do. Of course, they probably would use him, but that's all the story. A little shot at the end there. Okay, Pete, Wow, Tony, you've had enough of this. I think because he agree with everything I say and he just doesn't want to don't want to. I can tell why what. I can always look at the selling space. It's just like when I covered up whenever you agree with me and he didn't want to say it. I can always tell by his face. No, it's just I guess, Pete,

I'm along the lines. This is a conversation that should have been had in the offseason to go get the guys. I mean, if you know you're going to get the number one overall pick, let's go surround him with talent that can help him be successful. And so it's either one or two things. It's one of three things. I guess. One you over evaluated your roster as far as talent at the skill positions. Two you tried to go get guys you just couldn't. People paid more, got outbid whatever.

Or three I can't remember my third point. Maybe they overvalue the guys they ended up with also overvalued drafted and you drafted other positions or yeah or you yeah or you just because if you're over you overvalued where you were. You didn't address it in the in the draft because they did not address I mean, now their argument would be well et and was supposed to be a part of that, and I just I've never bought

that from day one. From the standpoint often running back, Like, you don't draft a running back because you're gonna use him as your slot receiver, like as a like number one weapon. You draft a running back because he's would be a running back, he'll be a scatback, move guy, and you can do different things things with I get that, but I think it's it's unrealistic to draft a running back and as a rookie that he's gonna be a major impact in the passing game. He's the compliment or

the second guide to James Robinson do different things. That's what they needed. So that's fine if that's what he was going to be. In my point spot, you couldn't. It didn't need that. That was a luxury pick that they had necessity, they had needs. I'm not saying this is nothing to with thet any I'd be a great player. We haven't seen it yet. Got hurt, not his fault. I tend to agree with Pete, and I've said this privately two people. Um, well, now you're going public with it. No,

I'm just saying. I'm not saying I'm not I'm not just saying this now because it's we're on five is so I've said this in the past. That's thank you. Sorry, I thought you were this was breaking news that I feel like that E t N. I'm not saying he's not gonna be a good player. I didn't understand in a roster that you had significant issues with from a talent, explosive you know, you know, explosiveness, scoring touchdowns. You're drafting a rookie quarterback. Your best player on the team was

your running back. I don't know if I would have burnt a first round or on a running back. I know I wouldn't have. I mean, I I mean, like, go look at the kid and I can't think of his name right now, Denver, who's like a beast at running back, the kid from North Carolina, Yeah, William And look at the kid who played for the Bears yesterday. Khalil Herbert late round picked from Virginia Tech, did a

nice job. If you wanted the third down type of back, Matric felt in the you can slot back and play wide receiver running out of back up place for Cleveland. There are other options out there running backs, They're everywhere. You don't d you don't you know me, guys, I don't ever take a running back in the first round. Just not doing it. Yeah, but I don't want it to be draft. My point of saying this is you

asked me to respond to Pete's point. Yes, is we're not getting productive and this is not We're just not explosive. We're not an explosive team. And you and you could argue that is that because we don't coach it up right? Or is that because we don't explosive players? Well, probably a combination to how many explosive players to the type staff A. J. Brown's explosive player? Right? Yep? Okay? Would

you consider McNichols explosive player? They got him in space, got him a big game, a couple he had a couple of last week too. What about the other kid that had the two crossers? Um John but everything can set up. Everything is set up off of Derrick Henry for them everything. But he's explosive pretty well yesterday to a better way to do this beat and we can go. And I'm hesitant to bring this up. If you went across skill or any position, how many top five players

do we have at their position? I don't like this game. Let's come back and like you have to have those different makers. The Titans offense goes around Derrick Henry. He's like a difference maker. J doesn't ever want to play that game because he does where it's going. And I don't want to play it either because I'm not killing this team. I think this team. Look, I respect these guys as players. They work their tails off, their physical they play hard. They fought their way back into a

game after a terrible start. So this I'm not trying to overcriticize. But you're on five straight loss. What the reality is that they're not fast, they don't have playmakers, they're they're they're not a dynamic offense, and and and so what what's You're not criticizing the player, you're criticizing who they are as a team. I mean, Marvin Jones never was fast and he's not fast now and that's who they signed the free agency. All right, let's come back. Um,

you know it'll help all this discussion. Kicker talk. Oh gosh, we've got that coming up. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Yeah, it's an open competition and we're also searching. So um slipped on the extra point and fifty five yard, fifty four yard and at the crossbar and so, I mean that's a tv UM. So they'll be some competition this week. But we've gotta make a precist here. All police bulletin, all points bullet right, that's all all points whatever it is, that's what we

need right now. And the kicking job. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Are you kidding? Um? J P. Shadrick. That's Tony ROSSELLI Pete Frisco with us. The Jaguars had six kickers last year. They're on their second this year, and it sounds like they at some point could be on their third. That they're looking Pete. I mean, that's that's crazy. Well, it's not just a problem that Jacksonville was a problem all over the league. Yesterday there were

what fourteen or fifteen missed extra points. Yesterday field goals five in one four minutes stretch in the Vehicles Packers game. I mean it was just awful teams getting forced to go for two because their kickers missed extra points. It's just all you do. And I sent this tweet out to it all you do as a kicker, stand there all damn dang kick, that's all you do. How do you not make your damn kicks? Well, it must be harder than I think, because they missed a lot um

But am I wrong? I mean think, but you played. You had good kickers when you played. But when a kicker misses a kick, it's like and back in the day it used to be so much anger and venom directed at the kicker. Now it's like he trudges off because we're in such a calm, friendly world now where nobody says anything to him. Make the damn kick. Make the kick. The uh pete would scare it out of it. We'll also say this, if you watch Matthew Wright, he does not have a big leg like you can see

it like in warm ups. He does not have a big leg. And when he was warming up, he was barely making them from three and now his career long in college was fifty. I mean that's like barely making right extra point. Yeah, when he slepped on the next point, forget that when we lined up for the fifte yard or I'm like, oh, like this is like this is this is maxed out. Everything he's got he got all of it's a crossbar. So what about the other guy?

I don't know, Like when I I've never seen I've never seen a team keep a kicker that's healthy for I like more than one week. More than one week, okay, a week off, it's like two weeks. Like he's not He's healthy, there's nothing wrong with them physically. So why are we like either make him kick or go find someone else? Right? Yeah, I mean you're either on the team kicking or you're gone. Like I don't understand that.

That one's a mystery to me. Does anyone did they want ask urban like why is he still here if he's not kicking? I mean, how much money were paying? Why was he not there last week? The word was the report was personal reasons. I got nothing more than that it was not injury related on the injury report. No, no, no, if it's personal reasons related to family issues or something else involving him, that's fine. If it's a personal issue related to the confidence of being able to make it kick,

I'll say this that I don't know. The gene for NET last week tweeted that they asked for an interview from Lambeau and he declined. For what that's worth, I don't know. He just told them no. That's what the tweet said from Geane for NET last week. Um, there's that. So yeah, kickers, I mean, first, we're you know, we're breaking we're setting records left and right. First team in the Super Bowl era that through five weeks is not made. I feel zero for four. Now there's Pop Warner teams.

You have more field goes through five weeks than we do. It's it's pretty amazing. Now we're not Traditionally the organizations have pretty decent kickers. Yeah, but we're not that far. Like the Saints aren't much behind us speed. They have one make and there one for four and five weeks, but their kickers hurt and they haven't brought it. A couple of different guys, one of them being ros Sauce. At one point he was in Jacksonville. I think he's out there again. By the way, Um, who do you?

I mean, here's the problem I have with kickers there. Their legs are bigger, stronger than they've ever been. They've got more power than they've ever had. We've seen it by all these long field goals. So something is amiss, right? What is it? What is it? Is it mental toughness? Is it because these guys have candids for legs? We've seen this other than a guy like Justin Tucker who stays hot all the time, some guy like Josh Lambo was on the scrappy but he got hot, hot, hot hot,

and then it went bad. They go bad quickly. Why I don't know. Well, maybe you should do a story. Why don't you do some investigative report into it? An a p B of sorts. We're back in a moment the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Right around the corner. We'll get to your social questions and much more. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the

Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. I'll feel comfortable. Um, I mean, yeah, obviously I haven't really ran it before in any game, but if not don't come fable or something we worked, so, you know, but we trust our guys up prow We trust our backs in that situation. Obviously love to get in there. But if we make the play, you know, like it's like no one said anything, but it's the TfL um and that doesn't look great obviously,

so we all can get better. But QP sneak is always something that we can get to and I feel comfortable with. That's Trevor Lawrence after the game. Welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Brisco along. The Jaguars fell to the n to see Titans yesterday thirty seven, nineteen oh and five. Start to the season twenty consecutive losses, the third most in the history of the National Football League,

the second most since the merger. Uh nearing history and hopefully we don't get there. The Jaguars out gained the Titans yesterday. They nearly rushed for two hundred yards a hundred nine rushing yards and a loss yesterday for the Jags. Not great on third downs, had some goal to ghost situations that did not go well, and that was what Trevor Lawrence was referencing there that fourth and really three inches to go and to get to the goal line, and they couldn't get it in. They handed it off.

It was a great penetration from the inside of the Tennessee front and got in the backfield. Carlos Hide was hit three yards behind the line of scrimmage and that ended the comeback bid essentially for the Jaguars. In yesterday's games, some communication changes on defense and as we've noted in the first hour, some communication issues on defense and the coverage, especially some big place for Tennessee in the passing game yesterday.

Five plays of over twenty yards all passes for Tennessee in the game, and that includes a game where um Derrick Henry racked up late yardage when they were trying to churn that clock and he got in the end zone three times. So here we are and five taking this thing to London this week to face the Miami Dolphins at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Yeah that's the state of affairs, Tony. Well, yeah, it's not. It's not great anytime you're own five and

not great losing twenties straight. But you know, the only way you fix it is winning football game. It's the only way you can get this taste out of your mouth. It's the only way the narrative is going to change at all. I mean, we can keep on talking about yards and this and quarterback sneak and who's in the field and this and getting better and getting bad breaks and way, I mean enough, did you just say, I mean,

it's enough. You gotta go win football? Is that a big topic of discussion up there today to getting breaks?

I was on I was on this Morning with Jeff Prosser, my more breakfast Batality, and he was like, I Like, he was like, oh, we're not getting brakes and this, and the officials are I'm like, I wanted to say, what do you think, Like they're sitting in New York and say, hey, let's go after the Jags, Like let's really stick it to them, because it's not just the officials on the field, like when they review it, it

goes to New York. And by the way, every call I agreed with the officials on the ones that were reviewed, the Fumbolt Trevor being short that I think the the p I was tickie tack. Absolutely, But I also saw some of the tellings they called the times were tickie tach. I mean, I like to hit on the sideline? Was the hit on Larrence wasn't It wasn't. That wasn't a penalty, and so we'll take the yardage? Um sure, you know, you know Red Barber said that's a great sportscaster back

in the old days. You know, m vision is a lot of times more emotional than it is physical, because you see what you want to see and you don't see what you don't want to see. And that's why fans are in the stands, are always at odds with referees and umpires well, and today, like more than ever in the NFL, it goes to New York. So unless you are trying to sell to me that there's a conspiracy against the Jaguars at the risk of the NFL losing all of its integrity, like, I don't buy it.

It sounds like a poor loser to me. It feels like you're making excuses go in And I'm not saying anyone in the organizations doing that, by the way, I'm just saying kind of what's on Twitter. I'm not saying urban or I've never even mentioned that no, he's not doing it at all. But but it's always the fans. It always evens out. I'm a big believer in that. I'm not one ever to sit here the ref stink that you know, they're calling them one way. They all even out. Um by the way, I was this one

thing about Jacksonville. Jacksonville doesn't get the national attention ever in its history that it deserves. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Right now, this twenty game losing streak is kind of like quietly been a little bit of a story instead of what I think. It's getting legs. It was on the front page of VSPN today. It's I mean, it's this is a major thing in a negative way. It's not getting But if that did you mamagine if that happened to another team like the Bears

or somebody like that, it would be all over the place. Well, it's only gonna build as they reach. If they don't win and they get closer to it's just gonna build. Well, this is a good opportunity this week. They got a big break because Russell Wilson is not playing. When they do get back on the field, I mean, and they're not beating the Bills and as we'll forget that one donate that week to to to working on other things. Uh, the Colts, you're not that good either, So what do

they need? They need six more to tie it? Right? The Falcons game will tie. The Falcons game, unfortunately, would tie it if they were to lose all of them. Yes, I think they win this week, Pete. They have a real shot. That Dolphins team is not very good. What's going on down there? I mean, but the offensive line is awful. They were The defense was terrible on Sunday, terrible, But that's Brady. Is the shine coming off the the coaching staff in Miami? Yes? And here's the other thing.

They have this co coordinator offensive coordinator system and then one week it wasn't even either one of the co coordinators. Suppose it was calling the place. It was Charlie Fry, the quarterbacks coach. What are you doing? That sounds like something that should be in Jackson? Now? What are you doing? That's not nice? Um? Nobody just weird to what's happened down there? They can win that game this week. What are the Dolphins gonna? I have not watched any film

on them yet. Not seen one game, not one play. But when they're healthy, the wide receivers can run, but they're always hurt. Parker didn't play yesterday. Fuller's hurt again. UM gasket had a great game yesterday, great game. UM. Defensively, pass rush isn't great. The corners are good, but they had a rough go of it against the Bucks on Sunday, and that's probably has a lot to do do with the pass rush not being so good. A great team, it sounds like a victory to me. Are you gonna lock it? Who?

What's the line on that? What's the early line on the I'd be curious. I don't know. Dolphins are favorite. I heard favorite. So that means the Jaguards will be dogs in every game the rest through the street, then pulling upsets somewhere. Yeah, I mean yeah, no kidding, they've lost twenty in a row. I mean all of a Suddeny're gonna be favorite in every game. No, I didn't say every game. I said a game, JP, A game would be nice. I mean, what are we doing? What

do you what do you think? What do you think? Pete? They win this week or not? They win the microphone? Thank you? Um? I don't know. That's I gotta do my picks tomorrow. That's gonna be a tough one for me. We gotta see two of my play this week. And percent by the way he is playing. He heard his hamstring on on Sunday. Who was looking around there? Who's the third quarterback? H? Not very good? Who is it? It's what's his name, Reid Stinnit or whatever his name is? Yeah? Him? Oh, oh,

that guy? So the oh this is old. Yeah, we'll move along here, I mean the Jaguars. It's the eighth game for the Jaguars in London coming up this week. First time they'll play at the new place, Tottenham Hunt Spur Stadium. The Jags, of course have played all their games in London previously at Wimbley. This is a to

fulfill the league's engagement there. They obviously went in with Tottenham Hotspur Football Club to build that great new stadium on the north end of London and Jacks are going over as part of the two game series this year. Last week the Jets and the Falcons played at at the Spurs so Stadium. But it's unbelievable look and they have a retractable field, so it's a true artificial turf field with the rubber pellets and all that, and seating

looks great and and everything. So um, unfortunately we're not gonna get to go this year to go see it in person. But um yeah, but hey, no you're not going this year. We're doing We're calling the game from here. You know what, probably help your health wise, because that beats you up that Tony had sent you back a

whole week almost. Well, it's just a lot. I mean, I wanted to go, but you know there's and I guess rightfully, so there's real strict COVID restrictions to go and to come back, and if you get a positive test while you're there or a false, you gotta stay for ten days. And you know that's staying in London. As much as I'd like to go, it's a great trip in the Jaguars do it first class and a lot of my friends are going. I just you know, are you staying in London? You'd be staying in London

in a hotel. If you test positive, would not be in London. You would be in a hotel. That's the risk. Let's come back. We've got plenty ahead. We'll get into keeping it real. Let's keep it real. Peat when keep it real, Let's keep it real. Where's our product? By the way, we're still out to them. I think we gotta win a game first. Beat social questions coming up a little bit. We'll go around the National Football League as well. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. Hi, welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was Selly Pete Briscoe the day after Jaguars lost to the Tennessee Titans seven nineteen. Time Now for Keeping It Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundab Open Up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundavi. We're gonna keep it real. In the wide receiver group, how do you get your top two receivers more involved? Labisca Chenal and

Marvin Jones Jr. Pete go first, get them open. I mean that's a pretty obvious the answer. I just think the bubble screens and the quick throws to Chenal. I think he's pretty good at those, so maybe do a couple more of those. But I don't know. It's it's tough to get guys open when you don't scheme them open. If they can't run by people and they don't run by anybody, sorry for they on their people. Uh. Pete's answer was boring me. Um, well they got targeted thirteen

they got targeted thirteen times. I think who chin Alton or eight times eight total times five for Jones, three for chinal So first thing you do is convert the ones that you're throwing to them. Um, because you have a little conversion you know, target to catch rate hio two out of eight. Um, not very good. Um. The other thing I think, I mean, Pete, maybe bunch them up, maybe you know, move them, get him on the move,

pre snap. Um. Kind of like what I've been saying all year, and you've been shooting it that running some pick routes crossers, I don't know. Back shoulder Isn't that what I've been saying all year? JP? I think I've heard this a time or two. You know, we haven't. We don't do very much here. And maybe it's because we have a working quarterback and there's working on the timing and maybe or I'm forgetting how about like when once the last time we had a back shoulder throw right.

I know that might be a rookie quarterback in toddy Tony. I think you might be spot onto that. Yeah, it might be. I'm not being critical, Darryl Bebo, all right, I'm just I'm thinking trying to get creative of how do you get I mean, because two catches for your starting wide receivers is not now the argument of me, well, you know between Tabon Austin and uh ag Knew, you had another nine catches or whatever and in thirteen targets. Yeah, eleven and thirteen, so maybe you know, it's not like

that's a great Tennessee defense or secondary either. No, my point is, Pete you can shift and saying well, yeah, okay, our number one and number two receivers in that very good days, but our number three and number four guys did because they don't if you want to look at it that way. But you gotta get your number one and number two in Baltimore. I don't. I don't. Look you win with your number one and number two. Period. The problem is not number one and number two's they're

they're twos and threes. That's the problem. Jamal Agno, as we mentioned earlier, had six catches his long was eight yards. Yeah, because it's all bubbles creed, it's all a little short things. And for Austin, his average was just under eleven yards per catch, and that's after the one big one they broke. Yeah, so it's all short stuff. So what was the yards for? What did the average as a team on the on the receptions yards per catch? Just under twelve yards per catch?

How about yards per attempt? Let me do some math here real quick. So they had thirty three attempts to three yards, so it was it was like, uh, just over eight not good enough, but it's not terrible. But it's going to feel like that if if it continues like it is, right, I mean, if they can't get the ball down the field, they're doing all the bubble screen shorter things if they're forced to do. But you got to remember one of those was on the what was it that was that? Yeah? It was a long one.

It was about fifteen yard passed in a long run total yards, and I think, yeah, it wasn't even that long. I don't think was the total play and I'd say about fifty of it was after the Kisch that's a stretch alright, forty five of it. That's a stretch. Would say into the microphone, this is radio. I forgot. I forgot. We're not just hanging out with the couch right now.

Um yeah, yeah, It's just again, this is the situation you have when you have a two or the three and the fours, that of a one in the two, that's just the reality of it. They don't have a one and they don't you have anything close to a one. Who's the receiver on that team that's close to a one? Yeah? Um, I have no comeback. I can't even argue what it is. I mean, it's just that that that Dan Arnold is actually a good going to be a decent pickup for him.

Remember they were looking at him in free agency. Well, they probably should have signed him in free agency instead of giving away the first round pick after ten top ten pick after ten games. But a whole nother story. He's still gonna be a good receiving tight end. Well, you could argue that you only give a fifth rounder for him, but you only got a third rounder for the first for the first. Do you want to look at it that that way? I do? I want to look at it that way. That's the way I want

to look at it. See, I think the picks were swapped and you got tight again for the first round. Quarter now the fairs to him the first round corner hadn't lived up close to the hype. But did he play this weekend? No? My problem is ten games, Tony? Ten games? No? I agree? He did he play for Carolina this weekend? I didn't see him, so I don't think so. But I'll tell you because I was gonna watching. I haven't watched the tape, but I was in TV game. But you can't give up on You can't give up

on those guys. You just can't too early. That's my problem. But other than that, I don't have any I think Dan arnolds a good receiving tight end, and clearly they needed that. Yeah, they're gonna need it all year. Anderson, No, Dan arna Wait he did, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He played two weeks ago as well. I mean he's been playing, but very little that week. He was actually that he played more. He's uh, they traded to get Gilmore. That's right,

whole new secondary and and Jackson's a good player. They there, but you know you're Sam Donald came back to reality a little bit on Sunday he didn't play well out we'll go around the league here in just a little bit that though I was keeping it real presented by by Robert Mundavi. Opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mandavi. The mailboxes full today on social Oh we've got a lot, Pete, We've got a lot to get. I've seen some of them and

some of them will not make air. But no, no again, by the way, it's amazing how full the mailboxes when the team loses. But when they win and you get here anything when they lose, it's like, well, no, when they win and they're winning a bunch, you here a lot, right, But if you only win a couple of times a year, yeah, you know, you know how many times we've won them the last year calendar year zero, tony, So we haven't had any of those the last win do we have?

The exam week two of last season, so we're in week five, so that's three plus uh three more weeks one right, Yeah, that's I mean, it's around number. Yeah. There was a tweet going around today that had Gardner Minshew's record versus Travel Travel Larns. Did you say it No, I mean, I'll give you, give me a break. Come on, all right, Well, so we're gonna come back and get to the mail bag. Can't wait. I know it's your favorite.

Tony excited, Pete loves it. And then a little later we'll go around the NFL with some of the top radio calls from around the league. As always, thank you for listening. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. That's an interesting way we do. What does act is a tremendous our guy that's upstairs and the official is right with me, and uh,

I said, I'm gonna challenge this. He said, coach already looked at it, and then uh I kept staring at the video and then Um, the guy's upstairs has coached. That is a fumble. It's an open and kept saying open hand. It's an open hand. That is a fumble, critical point of the game. And I'm looking at it and I'm the official was actually great. I said, I'm gonna challenge this. Things to coaching. The challenges Um and upstairs they were adamant. There was a fumble and I

held on too. I so how much one time do I have on this thing until I can't throw it. But the fishers are great on the sideline. The communication was very nicely okay and boom. I really believed it was you know, and some of the guys upstairs. That's Urban Meyer today explaining the challenge on the chaise on a hit and the incomplete pass as it was ruled later. Welcome back at Jaguar's Happy Hour J P. Shadrick. Tony Baselli has a fresh cup of coffee. He was much

more calm there than he was that eazel nut. It smells awful. French vanilla. French vanilla. Pete Prisco's with us as well. He was much more calm they're explaining it than he was on the sidelines during the Did they show that on TV? Him uh being animated during the challenge flag? Oh? Yeah, it was all over the TV. They found it. They had an I saw on him on that play. Yeah. It's like holding the flag waiting to hear officials right there with a lot of a

lot of them. There's a lot of moving parts, man, but part that got me on that bike. I thought I would have challenged it. I thought it was close. Yeah, Yeah, it depends on the angle. One angle. I looked at him like, I think it's I think he lost it, and then you see another angle, it's like, oh, maybe it started moving forward a little bit as he controlled the still. So it was it was probably one of those calls if it was called on the field, yeah,

or fumble. Maybe they don't know it was close. But a stereotour on TV said, yeah, I mean it was the right call to call it in complete pass because but he also said, and I disagreed with him on this, he didn't think the opening drive was a fumble on Dan Arnold. I thought it was clearly a fumble. The turn is the football How I understand the catch today? Now it's changed fifty times since I've been alive, but they simplified it to a year or two and but two years ago they said, if you catch it and

make a football move, it's a fumble. And if you look at him, I don't know how you can catch the ball with your back facing one way and you turn a d eighty degrees and then fumble it and not constitute a football move. I thought that was a fumble. Sarahtoris said no on the TV. Yeah, well that's what I said to somebody, we've all missed some before. By the way, I was pretty darn close to how long

it's been. I said three sixty five plus three weeks, So it's three nine three days, not because I didn't count Monday today. Well that would only explained one day, not the five days. You say it was three or ninety six. I said three sixty five plus three weeks. You said three six five plus one, which is three eighty six. It's you were off by seven days. Yeah close, yeah, whatever that. You can't do math on that note, Yeah, yeah, all three math classes at Alabama. I took her hang off.

Now let's go into the social media mail bag. We put out the bat signal earlier today. Here's the best we came up with at britt jag with it looking like a potentially high draft pick. Would you take a player or potentially trade back and gained multiple I'm not doing draft dock six, No draft do, I'll do it. I'm out. I would take I take the kid from Oregon and race the card to the podium is less. Somebody wanted to give me three first round picks then, and one of them was in the top five or

six or seven. Then I would take that. Is he a defensive end? Yeah? Yes, I was gonna say Petel is down this year. Nobody's watched Organ. I don't think who is this? He's really good? Hey had Alabama do on Sunday? Alabama and Arizona State have the same number of losses, just saying, and you lost to a two loss and empty beat by Arkansas and great, so tell us more about this guy. But no, I don't want to hear this this week. Six physical, powerful edge rusher.

He reminds me a little bit of I don't know how tall he is, but he has that Peppers like play to him. So I knew I would regret that question. Is there any top quarterbacks coming out this year? Because if there's a top quarterback that everyone wants, you can part lay it to a bunch of picks. There is not. There is not. Our next question. We'll save the draft talk for later. Four. What people want to get hope? Oh gosh nine oh four Jaguar. Can Tony Boselli kick

a field goal? We need you, big bow. I think my range is just just inside twenty seven yards. That's not even Yeah, I need I would need one of those Rick Dempsey shoes the flat toe because I'm a straight on kicker Tom Rick's brother. You didn't say Mike Dempsey bringing Rick and Mike's brother Tom. Hey, have you ever tried to kick a field goal? Tony? Yeah? Yeah, if you're a straight on old style yeah, I can't. I can't soccer style do it. I've tried. It goes nowhere.

Plus it hurts our Next question, moving along at j Killed Jags swag nine oh four, that there's two questions here. Are the Jags at least talented team in the league. That's one too. That's the fact that half the staff is essentially learning on the job the ins and outs of the pro game. Is it a factor on why we can't overcome the talent gap? Pete when he's talented team in the league? Close? The Texans are right there with him, Um, and the Lions are right there with him.

And and oh, by the way, well, I'm not gonna I think the Jets that is a good game talent on their team. It's just the quarterbacks I'll play very well. Um. The Jets have this really good linebacker I've noticed. Did you watch him yesterday? He was all over the play Quincy Williams back to back weeks. He's like took over the game. I don't know where he's from, but man, he's a good player. You ever heard of him? And he could have covered somebody in coverage? Have you ever

heard of Quincy Winds? Or No? I mean neither. So what about the second staff? Is learning on the job that makes it tough? Yes, it does make it Tough's he got to become an NFL coach is a big difference. I do not think we're the least talented team. Who is? I have no idea, but we have Trevor Lawrence. And if you have Trevor Lawrence, you can't be the least talented team. Well, you're the least talented team in terms of Hope Lawrence. But he's better than Jarreed Golf right now. Right,

he's so the Lions. He's better than Zack Wilson right now. My point is, I'm not saying it overcomes everything, but the quarterback has a higher weight than being talented. Let's say at receiver, right And by the way, the Lions aren't very talented a receiver either, But but the line, I'll say this, the lines are they have a good offensive line, they have two good back they have two good backs, and they've lost the last two weeks on epic field goals like the old timer last week and

a fifty four yarder this week. With the last three weeks last they're in games. They're in games right to the end. Question number four, moving along, this is at the other guy to nine nine. Jason had the best game of his career. But is it more of a product of the Titans poor offensive line? Um, I would say it's a part. I mean, I think that's part of it. I mean, Quisenberry, the right tackle is struggling in a mighty way. You're being night, You're being nice. Okay.

The right guard is not a great pass walker. Saffold is at the end of his career. Ben Jones is he's a decent center, and Taylor Waughan is coming off in a c L and he's trying to recover and he's nowhere near the player he was pre a c L. It's a bad line, and so yes, it's probably a product of that line. But he can just look more active it. Maybe that might be something that needs to get You can use it to get go. Because he looked like he was faster faster than he so who knows.

He's loved. He's got a long way to go to get to that draft at us. Let's put it that way. It's the second time you dropped that today, Pete. Well, I mean you draft you drafting me supposed to be a dominant pass rusher. He's in draft talk mode right now, Jake, he's he's locked in. He's ready draft when we can see your first mock beat. No, I don't do them to after the season, but we got guys that do them year round. Our draft guard does them year round.

Who's you have? Wait? If the draft were held today, the jab Wards will picked first. Yeah, no kidding, at Pete, that's real nice? Has that ever happening back to back years the same team's picked first overall? I don't go. I have to look. I don't think it has added to the list of things if it continues like this. Let's get our next question in social media. This is from at Dylan Kiernan. Can the Jags just run the ball every play? And how do you give j rob

one carry the first and goal from the five? Run your stud until they stop. You no need to switch it up for the hell of it. Yeah, I mean he only had six carries in the second half. He had a hundred. He had over a hundred yards in the first half. And I don't know how you come out and give him six carries in the second half. I'm gonna I would give him twenty carries a half at this point. I'm being facetious there, but he should. I've said it all along. He's the best, most productive,

best player on this team. Um, Trevor Lawrence is the most talented and will be the best player, and he's the franchise. He's the most So this is how I look at it. Trevor Lawrence is the most important player and the most important asset this franchise has. James Robinson

is currently your most productive player. By the way, having the offense run through your most productive player, James Robinson will help your most important player and most important asset get better and grow, particularly with the way his weapons run the ball. James Robinson carries a game, especially the offensive line is a good They do a good job run blocking. That's how you gonna That's how you're gonna

get your receivers going. Even with the backup lineman. Then are going to go in March is in there and you're gonna have good shots. Played a lot of football. He's fine. Yeah, so run the ball, give it to j rob carries a game, says coach Boselli. Let him go, guys, a good football player. One more question today, Let's get

to it. This is from at stew Winners. Are any of you going to make the trip to London next week and show hit me up for some places to have entirely responsible in a no way potentially scandal us beer drinking over the weekend. I might come now, I'm out. We're out this year. Radio is not going. We talked about it and they didn't. They're not taking the coolest people on the in the organization, the radio tea. I mean that's what it is. Unfortunately, Tony, you made you

made a good point before that. James Robinson is the best offensive player right now? Where would you rank him in terms of the best running backs in January's history? Right now? And then that was a small body of work, but you can tell by the talent where he would right? So number one is Fred right, Number two is um. I was gonna say, I know who would listen to this and give Maurice is the second best by far. I mean the one and two are so far above

everybody else is not even close. And then after that, I mean, James Stewart was a heck of a back. Is he better than is he better than then James Robinson? I think James Robinson is a better um has maybe better vision. But remember when we switched to that zone scheme, the two games that James because in James Stewart beat out Fred Taylor, Fred's the work of year. James Stewart had backed the back hunter yard plus games in the first two games and then blew his knee out game three.

And then Fred came in and did what Fred did, but he went on them he but James Stewart also went on to Detroit, had a couple of thousand yard years. What about what about vintage Natron needs? He was here too short? I mean the playoff running had the playoff running had was all time. And then after those, after after Fred and Maurice, like James Stewart was a James Sruart was a better back that he got credit for one he got hurt when he was starting to roll.

How many years with Stewart here he was here for four years. Um, so if you ranked it would probably be Fred Marie. Then a big separation Stewart. Then who Jay rob Robinson. Robinson has to be there and he and he might pass he might be passed James Stewart when Jay rob had a thousand last year. If he gets in there a thousand yard year this year, which I will be shocked if he doesn't, probably put him ahead. Where does Tampa Bay Lenny rank? He's not as good

as James Robinson? No, he's not. Joe Fortunado chiming in now our manager of radio. Yes, Ja, your guys question about who was drafted first two years in a row. Since n Cleveland has done it twice two years in a row to back number one. That's why they did it with Baker and Miles GARRETTO thousand, Tim Couch and Courtney Brown. Yeah, that didn't work out that well. Yeah, and by the way, Baker hasn't worked out as well as if they had taken Josh Allen. Josh Allen's pretty good.

Miles Garrett was a pretty good pick, though great pick. Courtney Brown was not a good pick, and Tim cap was not a good Courtney Brown was Okay, he was a good player. Now he's okay. He was okay, not the first overall pick. Tampa did it twice. Speaking of that is the only other team Leroy was that Leroy Selman and um, let me think le Roy Selman and it was a half half back half Ricky Bell, Ricky Bell from usc the late Ricky Bell, late Ricky Bell.

Those those teams, by the way, picked them over Dorset. Those teams lost twenty six straight games to begin their franchise, seventy six and seventy seven Buccaneers. It's next up if the Jaguarris continue to lose unfortunately. You know, I was speaking back to the Cleveland and it was interesting. They went back to back quarterback pass rusher. First time did not work out great, but Tim Couch was better. I mean,

he took the Browns to the playoffs. Um, and then he disappointed, all right, but he took him to the playoffs. And Courtney Brown well not as dominant as uh as uh Myles Garrett. He's one of those guys that got off the bus when he's warm up, walked on the field. You're like, oh my, it's me a long day. Because he looked apart. Oh, he was a big, physical, big physical dude. Like he was a good player. He just not dominant like Sacks. You think he had this career probably, yeah,

he was. He was more of a never had more never more than six in a career. He was. He was a right he you know what he was. But he was a left defensive end back in the day. Great, great against the run. Physical, but to your point, not a guy you draft first overall. Couldn't think he's a pass rusher. So the Bucks went. The Bucks went defensive end, and Selman who was a Hall of Famer, and then Ricky Bell who passed away. Yeah, and then they went

quarterback defensive end. Quarterback defense event so quarterback defensive end. That's what will happened. You get there, we're not going to be We're not gonna have yet. You might as well start peaking ahead. It's fun to pick ahead. October eleven. We will not give you. I'll give you. I'm gonna give it to you want my locks? Now? Do you want to wait? Wait? Can we come back? We gotta league. We're two of them. Well we need time for that.

One might be a double lock in a moment. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli will go around the league in just a moment. Your locks, Tony, I got two locks, beat quickly. First lock. It's only a single lock, but it's a lock. The Jaguars will beat the Dolphins this week and get their first win. Lock. It put it in the bank. It's done.

Vault fault, second, double lock. This is I'm so sure of this. I'm doubling up. You can't get back into this one. It's impossible. We will not have the first overall pick this year in the NFL draft. Double lock, double lock. Will it's just not gonna be us. I don't care who it is, not gonna be us. Okay, all right, they don't be Miami this week. In your lock. The other one probably will be a lock. So is a big week for you, don't Yeah, we're gonna win. I got a feeling. Yeah, I like those. Uh the

locks are in. Let's go around the National Football League and hear some of the top sound from radio this week. We start in London, the Falcons. Kyle Pitts had a huge day, including this first quarter touchdown called by West Durham on Sports Radio the Game and the Falcons Radio Network. Jason Spriggs has come in announced as the extra tackle. He'll be on the left side. Lee Smith and Kyle Pitts go to the right side. Now Smith back to the left eye formation. Keith Smith and Mike Davis play

fake by Ryan. Matt gotta throw for the end zone. Caught touchdown, first, rare scoring catch for out Pitts. Yeah, what a day at the office for Pitts. Pete and boy, they they really got him going yesterday in London. Well they've been waiting for that. You know, I hadn't played to that level and they were concerns about him. But you know, he was one of those young players who was just thinking too much when he's learning the coverages. And now he knows the coverages and is where you

gonna get for him? That they played without Ridley yesterday as well, I mean that that's a Matt Ryan was outstanding on Sunday. Outstanding Um and the Jets. Zach Wilson's not ready yet. I mean that's one thing about the Jaguars. There's a real separation between Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson. Right now, I agree, Yeah close. Let's move along. The Eagles and the Panthers. Jalen Hurts with a six yard touchdown run to take the lead in the fourth quarter.

Merrill Reese the Greats on Sports Radio ninety four. W I p H. Look on Hurts. Hurts, he gets its it and he runs in. He thanks the Senators and he runs in the touchdown. Had the Eagles take the first lead of the game. The Eagles win the football game eighteen over the Panthers, and that's a good win for the Eagles. Bay if a Tampa Bay this week, but uh, you know, to go in there and they were behind most of that game and came back and rallied to win it. That's a that's an impressive showing.

They weren't great. Jalen Hurts didn't play great football on Sunday, but he made the plays when he had to and that's an impressive win for them. Where is the Tampa game, Philly? We got a chance? Yeah, I got a chance. Yeah, I mean Jalen Hurts. I'm not saying he's maybe he's the long term answer, but I like I like watching him, Pete. He's competitive, he's a I mean, he's a competitive dude. I mean, guys rally they like being out there with him,

and he's athletic. Yeah. I mean, look, that's that's That team's interesting because they can still awesome Vetteran players and they have some speedy wide receiver verse. This is probably Pete's favorite game of the day with all the missfield goals. Packers over the Bengals in overtime, but Crosby lined up for the game winner. Here's Wayne Laravi on the Packers radio network. They're going to set up for a forty nine yard field goal tempt for Mason Crosby, who smissed

three in a row in this game. Can they get it done? Here? Mason crosbyfore the win snapping placeman. Here's the kick. It is out, it is God got it done. Fourth time of charm, fourth time a chart for Mason Crosby, the Packers winning it overtime to twenty two. Make the kicks, Pete, he made one I had made in a row going into that little hit where he missed three in a row, and he went in. He banned it through. Good for him.

The funny thing was is the McPherson, the rookie from Florida for the Bengals, hit one and he thought it was good and he celebrated like it was good because it hit the flag and it was no good. It was that was that was funny to see. He thought it was a special rule. If you hit the flag, you got four points in seven three. It was incredible. But you know that was that's a Joe Burrow by the way. He needs to learn how to slide. Did

you see the shot he took. Yeah, and he had to go to the hospital for with a throat confusion. And that was on another play Tony. That wasn't even on that play side. Not good. Patriots over the Texans twenty two, the Vikings and the Lions. A last second field goal attempt for the Vikings. Paul Allen had the call on the KFA in Minnesota Vikings Radio Network. Right.

Joseph has one game winning field goal in his career with Cleveland against Baltimore fifty four yard trial leptash snap spot Joseph excellent, way get up there, Yeast Bike Games have the Detroit Lions nineteens seven teen. You're a man hold with the want to win for the Bikes. Yeah, and they didn't play very well in that game. It

looked like they had it in the hand. It was sixteen six and they let him back in it and had a fun Madison fumbled late in the game and gave the ball point blankton the lines who went down and tied the game up? And did you see the weird sideline exchange with Kirk Cousins and Mike Zimmer after the game? It was like pushing each other. What was that? I don't know, Hey, Pete? What was it a good Was it a good idea to start Dalvin cook um

as you're in fantasy as you're running back yesterday? No, considering the announced it before the game that he wasn't playing a friend of mine, A friend of mine started him in fantasy this week? Who was that? Oh? Just this guy knows sitting about six ft from me right now with glasses. What's wrong with you? Pay attention before the game? Obviously not Pete, but fortunately Tom Brady through five touchdown passes. We'll get to him coming up in

just a moment. UH Steelers over the Broncos. Naji Harris, the rookie running back with a d two yards and this one yard touchdown jump Bill hill Grove on one oh two point five w d V and the Steelers radio network on second and goal at the one at to seventeen and winding and the gift and Naji up over the top for the Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown. He did it off left tackle. Wow, that was good job by

they up front people to secure things. And now we got post whistle activity and some angry, angry folks on post sides, both sides angry at that point. Steelers win at seven nineteen. They needed one there. The Steelers did. Oh yeah, desperation, desperation. Yeah. They were better, they tony, they were. The offensive line played better, which had been a major problem. They were. They had that game in hand, and they allowed Denver to get back into it, which

was weird. They had dominated the entire game, and you know how like sometimes it gets away from you and they let him get back into it. J Smith out for the year. He averages eight point eight for for Cats. Anyways, he's not like he scares anybody. We move along to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Miami Dolphins. Tom Brady through those five touchdown passes two of those to Mike Evans,

including this twenty two yarder in the fourth quarter. For good measure, the Great Gene Decker off on the Bucketeers Radio Network, and the slot to the right is Mike Kevins. He caught a touchdown pass our last drive a motioned Tyler Johnson. Here's the staff in your cup, suckers. Brady throws I see caught by Evans. He gets a block touchsdout Tampa Bay Bickens will the block Clee away from Mike Cabins to score a second of the day Malan Carnins. Yeah,

they're firing him. Indeed, all day long in Tampa. Tom Brady through five of those Pete. Yeah, he was on fire. And then look he's got somebody weapons. And Tonio Brown was outstanding, and you knew after a lack was the performance against the Rams, and then it's so so showing in the rain against New England, and he was gonna come home and light it up, and he did. He was. He was. I mean, the guy's playing magneticent. His only two picks, one was a tip ball? What was a

hail Mary? Let me ask you a question, NFC. Everyone's healthy everyone's healthy. Who's the best team in the NFC? Tampa Bay neutral somebody here? Yes, everybody healthy, but right now their secondary not healthy. David Lavante. David's now hurt and not gonna play this week. I mean they have injuries across the board. So but everybody healthy, Tampa Bay is the best team. Yeah, let's move along now. Saints over Washington thirty three two, The Chargers over the Browns

high schooling game. He's a star right now, by the way, star. I'm sure, I'm sure Miami's happy they took two. The was this kid? He just can't rip it. Bears over the Raiders twenty to nine, and then the Cardinals with a win over the Niners. Kyler Murray had DeAndre Hopkins for this touchdown with five thirteen to play and open at ten point lead. Dave Posh on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, Cardinals lead ten seven? Can they put them away?

Can they get a touchdown? Snapped to Kyler, he throws a fade left side in the end zone and it is caught for a touchdown by the hop de hop fought it with Josh Norman draped all over him, trying to pull the ball away. Even if it's a simultaneous catch, it goes to the offense. They lift DeAndre Hopkins up in celebration after an incredible graph for a touchdown. Ended up being seventeen ten final Arizona undefeated. Shocking. Yeah, and that's not a that was not a good look for

them yesterday. But it's a good song. And the reason I say that is offensively, they were stagnant. You know, they didn't play very well. Murray did play very well, and they found the way to win a game. Now, they were playing a rookie quarterback in Tredy Lance. But but you found the way to win a game ugly, and that's usually a sign of a good team. They did agree, they didn't. Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, Pete quickly rank the first round draft picks so far this season quarterbacks.

Trevor Launch clearly number one, then Mac Jones, then adjustin fields maybe, then Zack Wilson, then tre Lance, and then Davis Mills was outstanding on Sunday, the three touchdowns in that game. The Cowboys up with the Giants, by the way, the Bills over the Chiefs last night weather delay at halftime. I didn't that was that was a beat down. They're good. They're the best team. They're the best team in the AF city right now, for sure, I'll go. I'll take

the Chargers, thank you very much. That's look around the national football big time. Now for Monday Night football, it's Old Baltimore and New Baltimore. The Indianapolis Colts are one in three and the last hope this week to keep pace with the Tennessee Titans in the South, they'll head to the Inner Harbor to face Lamar Jackson and the three and one Ravens. Who can keep first place alone in the a f C North with a win tonight? Who you got on the Inner Harbor to night at

the Big Crab Cake. I think it's closer than anyone thinks. I still think Baltimore wins. I think Baltimore wins easily. Back to back the back road games for the Colts three straight. That's brutal. Ravens home for the first time in three weeks. I like the Ravens. And by the way, the Colts can't defend the pass, they will give up a bunch of big plays in the passing game. I love the Ravens. That lock peat lock wo he locked it there it is, it's vaulted, it's in the valls.

I think I can pick that lock though. If you have a great week, we'll talk to you. Man. Alright, bus go out of here. Tony Boselli out of here as well. What a week it's been. Joe Fortunado, Brent Riebart, trumpad Our entire crew. I'm JP Shadrick, thank you for listening and watching. I'm Jaguars dot Com. Tonight, this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. M