Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 15

in just a few moments. We'll recap Week ten, the Colts over the Jaguars seventeen, and the Jags had the ball in their hands down six, with two time outs and a two minute warning with two fifteen to play, and could not get it done. Offensive issues remain. The defense slowed down. The Colts after an early surge of special teams had some issues. We'll get to social media questions a ton of those today. We'll go around the NFL. Here's some radio calls from around the league. Let's touch

on yesterday's game, the Colts over the Jaguars seventeen. We mentioned the Jaguars offense struggling again. They had six three and ounce in eight first half possessions. They had a touchdown a long run by Jamal Agnew sixty six yards, and then they had a field goal right at the final gun of the first half. Other than that, three and outs all first half long. The defense gave up ten early points and then only two field goals in the final ten possessions of the game. They stood up

and played well against the Colts. The Special Team's teams had issues, a block punt, a missed extra point, of miss field goal. After the game, head coach Urban Meyer proud of the team's second half fight. I just sit on the radio that you know culturally. You know, I'm a big believer in culture. I'm a big believer in leadership. I also have been alignment, everybody working together and enough with the almost almost almost. When we figure that out,

that's when you win. And uh, I like it was said. I didn't say much after the game, some players did. And we'll see how we show up next week against San Francisco in front of our home crowd. But I hate to say this because I usually try not to when you lose. But that was at that second half way they on the road against a very good team, they played their tails off man, and um, it wasn't pretty. But they could have sucked their thomb and left after

the second quarter like you see some teams do. They didn't do that. So I hate to use the word proud, but I am. We'll hear more about the defensive performance coming up in just a little bit. But on offense, as we mentioned, the struggle throughout most of the day, Trevor Lawrence finished sixteen and thirty five, passing a hundred and sixty two yards, and there were some issues obviously

throughout the afternoon. Trevor Lawrence talking through a postgame, like I said, I'm hard on myself and I expect to to play really well every every game and put us in a decocition to win and just a lot of a lot of reasons off insily, we just didn't play great today. I thought we picked it up a little bit at the end of the third um mostly in the fourth quarter. Um, but I just gotta play better and that starts with me, and so I'm part of

myself and gotta get better. But I mean, yeah, there's gonna be things you gotta go through, and um, stay positives. I'm what I'm doing right now, and you know the locker room is in, you know, good spirits. Obviously, we're piste off. We you know, had a chance to win that game, should have won that game and didn't. So um, but you know, locker rooms good, and you know I'm good. Just gotta you know, let it. Let us simmer for a day and then move on and we gotta go

play San Francisco. So Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli joined us now on Jaguars Happy Hours. The Jaguars trying to get back on track next week, San Francisco coming in. We're rehashing this game against the Colts. And a good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete, what's up, man? What is up? How are you jp? We're hanging in there. Yeah. I feel sorry for that kid because he has no receiver help. I mean, it's just amazing how little he gets from his receiver position. And look he's got to hold on in the football

in the pocket. That was a bad play. But again they get no help from the receivers. They the design of the offense doesn't help him at all. I'm gonna go back to a play and Tonio probably agree with me on this, but the Arnold play to get him down to the top, down to the what was it the two before they scored, right before they scored a touchdown? You have a nice little slant they picked. It was a great one. The design. It was a design pick. They don't do enough for that. It was easy picked

to catch. They're not in the red zone very often, so it's hard to do. But that's a tight red zone plays at it. But you can use those outside in the field too. I don't disagree. But he also misses stuff. I mean he missed, like he missed a touchdown and listen to channel to put him in the backfield. Yeah, the wheel route and he is running wide open down the sideline. He doesn't throw it. No, he missed that and and uh Agnew dropped the past. I thought he

should have two. I think he should have caught. Yeah, there's no consistency to their passing game at all. And I thought the offensive line actually protected him pretty well watching the tape, I thought they did okay. Well. The way I say it is this is that when you only score thirty three points in three games in the NFL today, then it's not just any one position you're across the board not playing well, and that, by the way, includes Trevor Lawrence. I don't think he's playing very well

the last couple of weeks. I don't think he's very accurate. I think he misses some guys. I was so impressive with him in the pocket, even on that fumble. I thought he started like getting out of the pocket before he had to, instead of just kind of shuffling up like he's had in the past and looking down the field. So you know, it is the InVogue thing to blame uh, to blame the wide receivers. And I'm not saying they're playing well. I'm not saying they're dynamic, but I'm not sure.

I mean Trevior Lawrence is a point breaking football either right now. Well, it's hard to play good football when don't have anybody open. Yeah, but that's I mean, go watch the thing. I disagree with that. When they played Nan, it's always tight windows. When it's a man, you have to throw people open, you have to throw lead them. And by the way, he had a deep out that was open. He missed the one. Was that to uh Barvin Jones? Is that that one? Yes? He just flat

he skipped it. Yeah, he's skipped it. He's skipped He's gotta hit that. He also threw a back shoulder throat of Barba Jones. That was a great throw. I mean, there there are moments where you look at it you go yeah, but there are so many. I just think

there's so much at play here. Scheme development, Receivers don't run, they're slow, and and I think he starts pressing a little bit when when it gets into that, because again, it's easy and I've actually heard people and you guys lived there were there people actually talking about benching him and going to the backup quarterback. I saw that on Twitter.

How stupid is that. I refuse to enter into dumb conversations. Um, and that's a dumb conversation if you think that, like in any universe, benching Trevor Lawrence at this point, it's a smart move. He hasn't played poorly enough to even Warren a bench if he was a veteran quarterback, let alone a rookie quarterback. Give me a break. I mean, look, he's not playing up to the standards that I thought he would play too. But there are a lot of

circumstances at play here. Anybody who's ready to bench him or sit him down or blame him is being misguided. It felt like he was double clutching a little bit. You know, I don't know what that was about. If you went back and watched Tony and Pete. I mean, I think he's I think he's hesitant. I don't think he's trusting what he's seeing. If you're asking me, I don't think he's trusted his receivers. That's part of trusting. When you're seeing Pete, Well, what he's he seeing, he's

seeing guys blanketed and when they're not blanketed. I think he's so surprised that he missed. Sometimes he missed fires. Well, I think you're I think you're giving him too much of a pass in my opinion. I mean, okay, go through the place that he's he made bad throws on Sunday. You can go through all of them and you can Okay, missed, he missed, But it's not just he missed. It was a terrible short yard if he just puts it on its first down. He had a deep out to um

Marvin Jones. He had another back shoulder to Marvin Jones. He missed both those. He Um, he was rushed and you can argue this pressure to Dan Arnley through it early. Um, I guess the more so that's those and then how many were there? Three or four? Yeah, But Pete, you and I see I'm saying the same thing. I don't think it's all him. I don't think I don't think it's all him either. I think it's a combination of

bad receivers, bad scheme. He's not his confidence looks like he's getting a little I would agree with you on that he's not the same confident guy who was three weeks ago. I think his confidence is starting to get a little weighing a little bit and he's getting jumpy. Tony, you're right. If you go back and on to take the last play that where he lost the ball, he looks like he might have ag knew up the field

if he would throw it. Just take a deep breath, slow everything down and look and like a couple of times, like even in those spot routes like hit your fifth step by, and I just think he's a little bit he's not is decisive. That's good as he's been. I'm not like and people are like, are you worried? I'm like, no, I'm not worried he worried about him. No, like the

least of my worries. But I also cannot worry about a guy and say, a guy's not playing well, and I don't think it's playing very well right now now he's and again he's not not playing well. But there are so many circumstances that play that, and and most first and foremost the design of the offense, thinks. I mean, I just put that out there. I hate it. Well, we know that. I'll say it again. I'll say it again. I hate it. Wow, it's a strong word, Pete, you

brought it out. I mean, when you watch the tape, you come away from the tape looking at the the offensive line. I thought, for the most part they were pretty solid on Sunday when you said yeah, I said the same thing. And this morning and Jeff Prosser was yelling at me saying how bad offensive line is, like, like, are you watching the same thing like I'm watching. When you watched the tape, I thought they did a pretty good job on Sunday. Now there were some Norwell probably

had the most struggles in past protection. He's fighting the forest. Buckner's pretty dangn good. Right, Well, he's supposed to be pretty damn good too. He makes a lot of money. I understand that. But you you sometimes are like, it's not gonna go your way ever you play. Did you you watch the tape of the alb as a blindeman. I'm sure you did already. It's an entirety yet, but you would I mean, if you did, you would say that Norwell, the guys had the roughest goal of it. That. Yeah,

and Sony's right, Ben Bart is getting better. I thought Shatley. Shatley is a fighter man. Shatley will fight you. It's not the most give the guy. He's fine. And Juan Camps best game. Yeah, my baby is best game. He's getting better and better. The right tackle Quitty is not the most pass rusher in the history of the main either, and the right tackle was better than he's been. Yeah, I just don't I think. I don't think. Trevor just didn't look comfortable decisive. How about the best way I

can put it, that's perfect. Not comfortable decisive is actually a good description for it. And now it doesn't help matters when the running back is obviously not a ent out there trying to run around James Robinson. They gave it a go early said green light, let's play. And then it felt like he was better as the game went along, but early and I just didn't look right with James. Yeah, I once he got going a little bit, he was fine. I didn't. I mean, he popped a

couple of runs. I didn't think he was that much different than what he's been. Yeah, the reality is, I mean, I don't think he was. I think he you're better when he is. Reality is that you have to get something outside. You have to get And again I'm not blaming everything on the receivers, but how about to catch and take it to the house. How about you know, how about a catch in a twenty yard run? How

about something a little bit you know, extra? And so it's because the game becomes easier and that's just something we're not seeing right now. And and it's gonna be hard, But like will be the last time somebody called a slat. I can't remember. Leviscusnault did it earlier in the year. Right, he caught one of the left side, broke a tackle and then ran like sixty yards. Didn't hear So I guess here's and here's their thing. If you're Trevor Lawrence

and you dropped back, where are you going? Were you like, Okay, this guy's gonna be open eighty percent of the time. Like where is that? Like? Comfort? The only comfort guy is Arnold Dan Arnold right now, That's right, that's it. That's the comfort. He's the leading target, he's a leading receiver, he's a leading yardage receiver. Since he's arrived here, you would think that because of the speed, Agnew would be

that guy. But he's dropped balls and you could just tell that there's he's struggling in his own mind a little bit. It looks like when you agree, y, Yeah, I think he struggles with the deep ball. I think he's fine with the crossers and the short stuff. I think he struggles with the deep ball. Yeah, and that's something you gotta learn as a reseach track the ball. I'm not being critical. I just I just think that's

a part of the development. I mean, he was a dB two years ago, right, what did Lavisca have as usual? Three for fifteen yesterday and that what it was? Three on eight targets? Yeah, I mean does he get anything? I mean he had the wheel route out of the backfield, but I was like, does he have anything down the field for him or medium cross or skinny posts or crosses or any anything in the middle of the field. That's another thing on there. A lot of their plays

everything is outside it. It's like, get something in the middle of the field. Sometimes. Well the other thing that I mean, it's just so interesting this year if you look at it. During training camp, everything was about, you know, vis is gonna be a big part of this offense. How are we giving the ball, were to use them in different ways? Sees a weapon. We just have not seen that developed at all. He had I thought wanting to take that. I thought that when he ran the

ball to one play out of the backfield. The one play, it looked like he was gonna pop that for about twenty yards. But the receiver and I think it was treadwell one of those Bara Jones didn't block the end of the line defensive back and he came down the line and kind of tripped them up a little bit. Do you remember that play. It looked like I thought

the first running had the outside zone. If he cuts, if he plants it and cuts back to the times a huge hole was ye yeah, and he And that's because you're not a running back, right, Has you really been able to see that before? We've got plenty ahead on offense. We'll come back though, and touch on the defensive performance after in early surge by the Colts in the first quarter, the Jaguars defense played big yesterday and of course in the second hour, we'll have your social

media questions will go around the National Football League. We're just getting started. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, Jacksonville Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans ten ten x hour home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I feel like we did well on defense, Don't get me wrong. Um, definitely had some missed opportunities and m clude in my play. Uh. I feel like we did with the world a turn

of things around. I feel like the main thing, the main conversation we had going to half time, this came back to our hall. Um. I feel like, first have you know, uh, you know, you go back to the last game. We were a very energetic, you know, defense talking,

you know, communicating, having fun with the enjoying it. And my main thing was getting everybody to combat now, you know, so going into that third quarter, Um, you can see everybody something blinding up a little bit, enjoyed his game, talk a little bit more, communicate a little bit more, and he started saying things around. So we just gotta utilize that and keep that, you know, and wanted to say each game, each quarter that I continued to play

our ball of folks on the defense. That's Shaquille Griffin, Jaguar's cornerback, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick along with Pete Frisco and Tony Vasselli, we recapped the Week ten loss for the Jaguars to the Indianapolis Colts twenty three seventeen, the final score at Lucas Oil Stadium. We talked a lot of offense earlier, but the defense was a positive in yesterday's game. Now, in the first quarter, you thought, oh my goodness, this thing could get out

of hand. It was seventy nothing. There was a field goal, there was a block punt which we'll get to a little bit later that was returned for a touchdown, and then Jonathan Taylor kept off and eight played drive with

a four yard touchdown score. And in the first quarter Taylor had the ninety three yards rushing and the Jaguars defense seemed to be reeling, but then they put together three consecutive three announced on defense after Agnew scored the touchdown for the Jaguars, make it seventeen six UM and the rest of the day Tony they gave up two field goals and the final ten possessions for Indian gave this team at least a chance if anything would have

happened on the other side beyond what happened, they might have won the game. I mean, they gave up sixty points if you look at it to a team that's averaging over the last four games over thirty and on the year, I mean, they were outstanding. UM, and everyone goes, what happened those first two drives? Well, you see a lot of times in games where you know, the offense comes out, they get hot and it takes a little bit of time for the UH defense to settle in.

And I thought they got a little bit outmanned early. Um. They're running zone and the combination box on the back side, they're agetting the linebackers, getting good movements on the three techniques, and then after the first couple of drives. I thought they were much more physical and did a better job in allowing those you know, linebackers to run backside. They closed that you know backside sea gap down better, more aggressively, you know, taken that away, so there wasn't the cut

back there. So I just thought the defense, I'm not sure you know what else you can ask for. I mean, I guess not giving up that one touchdown drive, but you know it was they give up sixteen points and the Jags you know, have allowed a punk block. So that's twenty three and make it twenty four, and I guess with the two point conversion. Um uh, I mean give it twenty four with the the extra point, and

they just can't. You know, the Jaguars offense has scored twenty four points this year the high low high water Market three. If you know, the first opening drive, they pushed them around a little bit. I thought the first first two drive beats. It was Hamilton's on the field to start. I don't think he was on the field to are early in that game. And then I put they put him in there, and I think they realized that he should be on the field for the run defense.

I don't know I thought Malcolm Brown was on there the first couple of drives, and then he played great in the second half too. Yeah, he's like Malcolm Brown played well. David Bryant made some place. Yeah. I don't think it was anything about changing personnel or anything. I just think sometimes earlier game offense gets in a rhythm, they get it going. You're playing on your heels a little bit. You just just gotta get you know, your sources, you know, you're get your shorts about you, and you

go about and playing. And I think they did that. They did a good job. You know. What's interesting about the defense is like even I thought Tyson Campbell's getting better, he's getting better. That's a good sign. Um. You know that the way they use you, Brudy Ford helps them. Yeah, And I think you know that you mentioned it Tony. Whole year, we've been waiting for those down guys as a group to start playing. In the last two weeks they've played much better, and I think that's the big

one of the biggest difference. Josh Allen looks so much quicker and more explosive than he was earlier this season, doesn't he Yeah, but playing good football all around and and Jason made a tackle yesterday in the past on third down, remember in the flat. Great, but they still they still need that other guy. The last two weeks. The last two weeks, they've played really good defense. I think Joe Colin, Joe Cohen has done some really good things too to get guys freed. Yeah, I think they've

They've given up twenty two points defensively last two games. Yeah, I mean, but but again, I think he's scheming up some things to get guys free to the quarterback. And I think he's done a really good job. And I think they play hard. They do play hard. They do play hard. They have to be encouraged about that group. You know, they're still you still need to you still need the past rush another one, um, but I think going forward that has to give you some hope on

that side of the ball. Remember coming definitely progress. Yeah, and you know, the Jags have been pretty good against the run this year. In fact, they were top five and yards per carry aloud. The Taylor came in and was among the best in the league in that department, and after that first quarter they just shut it down altogether. What did he have on that one run was what on the first play. Yeah, I mean that, so you know, it was a big play that game that no one

will talk about. Second quarter, third or fourth possession. The Colts have it, they run, toss Crack, he goes like for forty and then gets called back holding questionable holding call, and if you look at the tape, it's not I mean it's like, how do you call holding? That's one of those plays that if they don't call holding there and the Colts get that plus forty, do they just keep bound rolling and that put it behind the chains.

They go three and out and everything from that point the Colts never really had another good run for the rest of the game. It's just interesting, you know, sometimes have those plays like what if they don't fill the flag there? It was a questionable one anyways, probably didn't have anything to do with the you know, the success of the run, but they do throw it, so it sets him back and get you three and out and all of a sudden, like something changes. I think those

are such interesting moments in a ball game. Um, and that one worked out from the Jags well, the way we when we're talking about defense, and I know we've talked about offensive defense already, but we we've glossed over something here before the show even started. Didn't didn't our fellow over here locked the game last week? I think he did. We can run back to say if you want, you know, I mean, did you think we're going to forget about that like two hours of course not, We're

not getting I was right. There were ten point dogs and locked my three. You didn't lock that. You locked the win we're talking about. It's my points. Maybe I locked it j P. Yeah, he locked a straight up win and that didn't happen. I said it would be close, and you said they would win. So I won. You lost. If you find take that said where I said in I don't know. You didn't say win. You locked it that they would, Yes, you did, I said you have.

I said take the Jags lock it in victory. Yeah, there was a victory if you took the Jackson point. Don't lock. People are already on I saw somebody on Twitter saying, please don't allow him to lock anything anymore. Well, well, come back in a moment, a little more offensive talk. We gotta get on special teams too. They had some issues in the game yesterday. I don't know what that was. But I think that was him reacting to special teams,

which about right in some instances. Yesterday, of course, check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's free on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods, and give us that five star rating as always the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But we have a lot of belief right now in that locker room, and you know, I'm I'm pretty hard on myself.

And when you have the chance to win the game and fumble on the last drive, especially when you have a great drive going and we had all the belief on the sideline at that just that just stings when you know you in the game that way. And I'm disappointed myself frustrated, But I know, I know how far we've come. And I mean, you look back compared to the first couple of weeks this season, it's night and day of where we're at. And we got a locker room full of guys, you know, coaches and players that

believe and we're on the right track. But on this one and this one hurts just because I'm frustrated to myself. Had a chance to go win the game, and I gotta do that, and I had I had no doubt We're gonna win the game. The whole offense believed it, and I'm just gonna finish. That's Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, of course, after they lost in Indianapolis yesterday, and welcome back.

It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Briscoe and pride of the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli. Gotta finished, Pete, gotta finish. They had had it set up, they had the ball, they had just over two minutes, they had the two minute warning, two timeouts, and gave it up. Yeah, okay, he said they believed. I guarantee, if you put most of the fans on a lot of detective they wouldn't have believed. Not the way that offense has been playing all year.

I mean, you would like to think that that would have happened. But were you encouraged that they would go down to get points? Are you asking me either one of you? I mean, that's how you haven't set up they had not proven that old day at least consistently. But they had scored earlier, they had drive earlier and a half. It's not like they had not moved the ball at all. You know, No, I didn't get it.

I would I would say this. I would say it was it was a coin foot for me because the way the game was going, Like you could see in the Jacks winning that just because they had all momentum and they had really, you know, won the last three quarters of that football game. So at the same time, the jack scoring points and putting a long drive together. It was like low percentage based on the last three

weeks of football we've seen. So I get what you're saying, Pete, but I gotta admit it did have that feel, Mike. Here they come, They're gonna find a way to win this thing. The culture gonna mess it up. It just felt like one of those games. Yeah, I I felt it a little bit. But I in the back of your head, you know, there's not gonna be any chunk plays that had problem. They were chepping away on that drive, right, I mean they had short plays to kind of get

where they got on the last drive. Yeah, But Pete's point, JP, it's hard to score consistently without chunk plays. When you don't get chunk plays, things go wrong. And that's what something went wrong. You fubble. Things go wrong when you don't get chunk plays. How many plays on Sunday did they have? Over twenty yards? Passes, over twenty runs? Over

you had? You had the touchdown one, you had a couple of sea So I've got them right here, ag knew left in sixty six yard touchdown run, a twenty four yarder Lawrence deep right to Dan Arnold twenty four yards. That was in the second quarter. Twenty three yarder Lawrence to Marvin Jones in the fourth quarter, that's the actual twenty three yard that was a penalty defensive holding. There was a left in run by James Robinson of eighteen

yards in the fourth quarter. That's it. Four or three got you gotta have more than that average UM at best best average And when you really look at it, the back shoulder that Barbara Jones was a great play by Marvin Jones's not like he was open or anything. I wonder what the average, JP, you might have this, what's the average you know, big play, uh for a team and again in a given game, like, what's the

average is like twenty plus or more. Well, I think the way they actually do it is it's if to be considered a big play, and every team he's a little bit different metrics. I don't want to say twelve yard run and like a sixteen plus yard passed its considered a big player. Maybe it's eight yards. That's a good question. I know that, Like, um, you know the stats dot com people go twenty five yard passes and ten yard runs and by whatever it is, just pick one. Yeah,

I'll say this. The Jaguars have twelve plays of twenty five yards or more in the air this year, and that is tied for seven in the NFL. That's per game. It's not good the most. Arizona has the most at eight. Well, it's hard to get plays over twenty five yards when you have like a brick wall. At twenty you can't get through. How you can't run through a brick wall. You can't get those plays. There's like a force field there if you go past twenty yards, they just stop.

But we're not very explosive, let's put that way. That might be the nicest thing, but hey, let's let's go to let's go to special teams because I mean, you know, yes, offense did not play great again, and yes chunk yards is a problem. Yes, Trevor Lawrence teams have been play better. Yes you need weapons, I mean all that stuff, like the offensive line. I agree to be watching the tape. But you know, fine, um, but you have you have you have a lack of playmaker issue, um, and you're

not addressing that this year. So how do you score points? Because you did have the ball at the end with a chance to win it. Um, if you go make a couple of plays. It would be nice if you could go hit stuff down the field. And there was a couple of No, I mean I thought that deep end route, you know it was that I mean deep end. It was like third and thirteen, third and twelve. The treadwell was a nice play. I mean you just see

more big play and like more chunk yards. They worked on the field and just seemed I could such torture, you know, did the checkdown just to find a way, you know, hopefully get down there and score some points. So what happened? What's that? It's laborious people? Thesaurus tonight I like that. So what happened on the blocked punts? Urban said today it was a mr assignment? What did you see untaped to bad bad count bad mrssignment? I think with Chappelle, he's forty nine, right, yeah, I mean

he we had three to that side. They it's three f three. It's not hard. This guy loops to the inside. The guy on the you know, the guy on the guard inside of him, switches off to go take the guy inside, and Chappelle just keeps on working to the outside of Mike. It's a man protection. You just got the guy that's inside switch it off. That should never happen. That was just it was a bad play it. I mean, he took it off his leg. I mean yeah, I mean you don't see that a lot. He took it

off his leg because he was like unempeded. He just unempeded. It just went. It's amazing. And then the admitted you guys were cutting the kicker at one point. No see no, I mean he missed an extra point. So he missed a fifty one yards long I don't know about that. So the missed extra point, Well, here's here's making me. My overall summary of the kicker. One. He should not be kicking off. He can't get it to the end zone.

Get Logan Cook out there, who booms it into the end zone because they got some good, good returns and you're playing with fire. Sooner or later, someone's taken to the house call because not only does he kick it short, they're not very high sometimes. So that's my first thing. Um, the kid completely surprised me by making the fifty five yarder. I mean, the first game of the year, he couldn't get it from fifty one and he just banged the fifty five the yard and that was good by four

or five yards. Um at miss extra point unexcusable. Like if let's say he made that extra point. Okay, let's just say he made it, and I told you he would have gone one for two over fifty. Yet yesterday you'd be like, okay, that's pretty good one, it's right, that's right, right, he missed the extra he missed the extra point. I get that, but like, let's call it what it is. It's not missing the field goal. But then last week he missed three of them in one play.

So there's concerned there, I know, But there's concerns there, there's there are concerns there. And the kickoff. You're a fifty plus all year, like, come on, you missed the extra point? JP, I say, any reason I sit there, I sit in front of these I got nine games on at once. I'm sitting there at least kickers. It's your job. Just make your damn kick. It's your job you kick all day of practice. That's all you to

which the make your damn kicks. And you know I send that out and people get mad at me, and Josh Goby to his credit and said, you know what, Pete, you're right, make the damn kids. He's missed two out of nine. Okay, he's missed two out of nine extra points he's kicked. Who's saying that's not good? I know it's that good. I'm just telling you the stats. I'm just whatever. Actually, j that's terrible, Like you should have said that, like you're killing I'm just telling you what

the numbers say. Whatever. And the way the way you said it, JP, like, oh you only missed two of nine, I mean the way you like like you missed it's nine of nine. I guess you know. And theory No, look, there's some questions about him as a kicker. He's made some kicks. We gotta give credit for his kicks. But Tony made a good point about the kickoffs. You can't get golf or you know, maybe you know, get some first downds on offense to get it closer for him.

I don't know, Like, how about that we're talking about. Oh, yeah, I don't kick off. Yeah, he shouldn't be kicking off, right, Cook's got a big enough leg to get that through the back of the end zone. Does anyone he kicks off? Yes? Cooks looking cooking kicking all the way through the whole thing. Yeah, Why don't they do? Why don't they just use him? I don't know. There's certain things that I don't have answers to Pete. That's one of them. That's shocking. You

have an answer for everything, Tony. Well, I give you my opinion, but I don't have an answer. Pete has an answer for everything, that's for sure. Well, I bet Joe d Camills would have an answer. More. Did I really need to go there? I think you did. It's time for a time out. We're back with plenty more a hand. We'll look at the AFC South standings. You

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Jaguars Happy r J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vasselli recapping a week ten lost for the Jaguars that dropped them to two and seven. It was seventeen the final score at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. The offense didn't play that well overall, the defense played pretty well, and the special teams had their blunders yesterday. So the a f C South standings, as you would probably expect, have not changed too much. The Tennessee Titans lead the way in the a f C South with another win. Their

eight and two undefeated in the division. Indie just can't gain any ground at all. Five and five. They're trying to sneak back into that wild card mixer is a bunch of teams bunched up in the middle of the a f C right now, and maybe, just maybe they can kind of hang around and see what the next month and a half brings. Jacksonville two and seven, Houston at one and eight. The only win for Houston you guessed it against the Jaguars week one. They were off

this week the Texans had to buy. So you know, Indie can't gain any ground Pete. But do you think they can make a little surge and sniff around a wild card or they out of it? No, in the a f C, everybody's in it. There's gonna be a lot of teams sniffing around that last wild card. No, we lost Pete. We lost Pete. Yeah, Peters and where Yeah, I'm here? Okay, we lost? Then where did the other two come on? Where did the other two come from?

We lost the first one. If you think the Patriots or one of the teams, where's the other one come from? So you got from the other two the other two wild card teams? Who well, first of First of all, the Patriots, inde get in the Patriots, okay, So so either the Bills. Okay, So either the Bills or the Patriots or one of the wild card teams. So then you gotta get two other ones. Are the Colts gonna get in? I'm gonna tell you right now? You want to you want me to do? You want me to

tell you the playoffs right now? Yeah? Yeah, this should be good here, this would be good. So, um the oh, this is tough Tennessee in but we know the divison. Let's go through the division winners. Do their division winners first, Okay, Buffalo or New England. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Buffalo, Tennessee. I'm gonna say I'm still I think Kansas City is just too good offensively, right, Kansas City. And I'm gonna

say Baltimore. Okay. So there's your division winners. Now we are we are ME and JP had already got to this part where we said either, so that means New England one of the wild card teams. Who are the other two? Pittsburgh I'm gonna say in New England, I'm gonna say Pittsburgh, and I'm gonna say Chargers, are they out of the West? Is the Chargers in Vegas? I'm

gonna say Cincinnati? Cincinnati? So you so you have you have Colts not getting in then so wow, yeah I don't, but you have them so that the ANFC South is easy for the power rankings this week. It's just that the standings are. Yeah. I thought, I thought for sure, and I was a drive away from flipping the whole thing or your guarantee meant it meant it wasn't happening in one or the other. It didn't work out, unfortunately. Not.

How about the Titans? Do you think that wait before we get Toto to do you think that's a good Colts team? M I'm not, Like, where's the pressure come on defense? Like where's the pass rusher? You know, Darius Leonard just stud their secondaries just okay, they have no company. Their receivering threat scary as a receiver, Like if you if you had a good speed guy, Pittman will be a great like correct, he's a number two guy to a speed guy. But there's no like don't scare. They

don't scare down the field. No, they don't scare down the field at all. And the quarterbacks just okay. The offensive line is it used to be good, but right now the way it's constructed, it isn't well. I mean I think it's it's okay. But Quentin Nelson's beat up. He's not moving very well. Oh my god. He he had a bed. He just doesn't look as physical and in past protection on Sunday he was. He was awful. I mean, not awful, but awful for him. Let's put

it that way. Yeah, it was, it wasn't dominant. Let's put that. He ducked his head a bunch tony. That's is that when you get hurt, is that something that happens. Well, if you don't have confidence, if you don't have confidence in your ability to anchor, that can't happen. I mean you can start ducking ducking a little bit. And uh, I mean in a million yeah, in a million years, I never thought I'd utter this sentence. Tavian Brian made Quentin Nelson look like a B player on one player

on Sunday. But what I mean there wasn't just one play. There were other plays where guys made him look bad. But David Brian did. That's the I mean, David Brian David Bryant. I'm gonna give credit. He played. He made some good plays on the Sun. That's two games in a row. Um, I don't know. If you you when you watch Quentin Nelson, you'll you'll know what I'm talking about. It just doesn't look the same dominant guy that he used to be. Who elsem Quentin Nelson? Who else was

going after him? Pete oh Roy Robertson, Harris got him once? Um, I think Malcolm Brown. I think goss has even got him once. So Gosslin's even got him once on one of those plays. So it wasn't good. It wasn't good and they weren't sacks, but they lead like the one. I think Malcolm Brown got a hand on him. Remember he tried that stupid pass where he tried to push it went. Does he do that exactly? Idea? Yeah. There. So the defense had a good day offense, leaving some

things to be desired. Obviously we talked about that week to week and then special teams did not have their best day. They've had good days earlier in the season, Yesterday was not one of them. So the Jaguars can I say something real quick? The defense is better as a unit than they are when you break them down individually, and that's a I think it's a tribute to them

is playing hard. It's also a tribute to the coaches on that side of the ball, because when you pick them apart one by one, they're playing better than what they are as players, and they're playing above that their their talent, I think individually, and that's a good sign and you need that, you really do. So, you know, I given the coaches on that side of the ball and the players on that side of the ball credit because they they're much better, uh as a group than

they are individually. I think where have they gotten better the most? You think over the last few weeks, where have they improved the most? Well, I think the run defense has been good all year, but it's those guys in front of playing better, I think even than they work. And I think you've done a lot of things to get them free up front in the pass rush too. Recently they're getting Yeah, they're getting more pressure on the quarterback,

that's for sure. Um, there's no doubt about that. There's just the overall pressure is better and I think they've simplified stuff in the back half so you're not seeing guys run wide open like you're not. You're not seeing guys get beat mentally. Um, And I think guys are playing faster because I think they're probably doing a little bit less when it comes to coverages on the back half. And you know, putting Rudy Ford in there and the way they use them has helped them a lot too.

I mean, he's not a straight line guy. He's a fast guy, but he's not you're gonna if you get wiggle on them, I think you cant have problems. But they've covered that up with the way they use them. And I think it's been smart the way they've used them. It's all good steps for the Jags defense. And we've reached the end of our number one. It is flown by here on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday. Still to come look back one more time at week number ten. The loss of the Colts will keep it real With

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errors and and uh. But they responded, they came back at defense. You know, the one thing about that locker roomround they fight for each other, they care about each other. And um, but I saw what you saw. How to sink is probably not strong enough word or a description of an offense. But then second half he came down

with the ball and end and chansco win it. So I'd rather focus on We'll focus on getting things fixed, but also focus on focus on the you know, the the relationship in that locker in the locker room we're dealing with right now. That said coach urban Meyer after the loss yesterday and indian Welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, recapping the Jaguars lost to the Indianapolis Colts seventeen. After an early flurry by the Colts offense, the Jags defense stood tall. That was the

highlight yesterday. They only allowed two field goals in the final ten possessions for Indianapolis. Jonathan Taylor had ninety three yards in the first quarter rushing, but only twenty three yards after that point. The Jags defense played pretty well. They allowed only uh has now allowed the defense only one touchdown over the last two games span, of course, at nine to six win last week. The Jags offense,

though another story, another rough day. Six of the first seven drives were three and outs, including three straight in the second quarter that each started right around their own forty yard line. Good field position just wasted in certain points, and then special teams issues Mr Simons on the left side of the line led to a block punt early and attend nothing advantage. Later, kicker matthew Wright missed an extra point and a fifty one yard field goal on

The Jags are now two and seven. They've got back to back home games coming up, guys, the Forts and the Falcons, and then two difficult road trips to Los Angeles to face the Rams and Nashville to meet the Titans. That's the state of affairs today, Pete. Yeah, and look, they're getting better. They're a better football team than they were even a month ago, and that's a good sign.

There's still not a good football team by any stretch of the imagination, but they play hard on defense especially, and I think that carries over a week by week and that's why there has to be in some encouragement in terms of where they are and what they're doing. I mean, the office is limited. It's gonna be limited. Nothing changing that this year, Nothing there will be. So you're basically at the halfway point now. I mean, you know, because or just passed it because seven games it's hard

to halfway point. Was at halftime against the colt so right, we got we got it on your half half, waited a season report at half time. So let's let's say we're at the halfway point right now. They're two and seven, eight games left starting. Oh no, what's their record after these eight games? How many? Well, I'm not curious of how many they winner the eight because I got asked that today too, and so I said, they said how many teams? You know, I was asking how many games

are the Jags gonna win? And I said, you know, it's funny, nothing has changed from what I said at the beginning of the season. At the beginning the season. You know, in pre season, I said, I thought this team would win four to six. Who are you forgetting when you said, what do you say? J At one point I said fourteen and three. It was a joke. Then you saw him play and you went, where is that the men that you know in every sea? I said four to six? And someone asked me, he says,

what do you think they're playing better? How many games you than the win? I said, I still think they're gonna win four to six, Like I think they'll win at least two more makes it gives them four. But if you told me they went five and five, I mean not if they went five dred at the end of the season, okay, because I could see them beating the forty niners. I can see them beating Atlanta. I can see them being Houston in the last game of

the year, if the culture out of it. I can see them beating the Colts at home, which you mean consistent with the last you know, with the last four years playing the Colts where the home teams won every game. So I could see him winning four good in the six and I can see one in two. I don't see any. I don't see any they're gonna win at least two, you know, and I think the ceiling is for you think they're gonna win. Okay, so go through the schedule right here. You're good at guarantee You're good

at guaranteeing things. I just told you the four I could see them winning the schedule. You got to give them for you said you're gonna do you think they might win? Two or four or three? Which one? Pick one? We're gonna go right down the schedule and you can pick them live right here, Tony, if you'd like, all right, let'll pick them with them. I'm not doing that. Yeah, I'll do it. You do it with me. If Tony won't do it, I'll do it. This week. San Francisco

coming to town. They will know, we'll know tonight after tonight. I'll be a better idea after tonight. All right, next week, the Falcons are here. Hold on, back up, you're gonna watay tonight because I watched them on tape this week. I think they stick. So I think they can win that game. But i'd like to the Rams. I'm wanna see how they play the Rams. So, but my point is they're playing up in for San Francisco, right, Yeah, And so short week to go across the country. Forts

aren't winning this game. No matter what. The Jags will win this game, but think about the speed. That's a bad job schedule for the NFL. You can't give a team a Monday night game with an ascid the player country. But they thought it was like an exhibition game when they came. Now scheduling and they're not good, Tony. They're so banged up and they're not good. They're they're bad. They lost mcclinchy the right tackle. Their offensive line is bad. Okay,

so you know what, I might give him that win too. Yeah, And it's a one o'clock kickoff times and am Pacific. We'll give up. We'll give the jag wars to win, all right. And then the Falcons come to town week twelve. I don't think they'll win that game, but they can. They can win that game, I think them too. That's two alright, Tony's got him going on a nine like Rock. He left them out of the wild card picture a

moment ago, Tony. And you know what, I saw somebody put up the wild card picture the other day and they had the Jaguars still in it mathematically. Go ahead, all right, at the Rams, at the Rams, good night. At the Titans, No, home against the Texans. Yes, at the Jets, yes, yes, at the Patriots, yes, because I like, when is that Jet? When is that Jets game? December six? Day after They're going to be golden miserable and they might not even win that one. No, I'm not gonna

give him that one. At the Patriots, No, January two. And then home against the Colts. So two to four, It depends. It depends what the culture doing. If the culture in it, then no, If the culture out of it, then yeah, I got two to four, two to four, two to four. You said you're copying me. I'm not copying you. You are copy you went, you just put If you had to pin yourself down, you'd say too. But you're you're being Oh they could win that one, they might win back, could win that one. I'm gonna

lock it walking four winds. Everybody the building went, No, Ian's gonna come in there and knock the door down and say, gell, where's Posselli. He's not the studio, but get him the hell out of here. Are you you're lacking for total for the season? Or four more of those? He said, they're gonna go They're gonna the rest of the way, just clarified. Let's just make sure that we're

clarified there. Okay, so six total for this. So basically, you're saying the high end of your preseason prediction will be what they are, right and what was my preseason prediction? You said three to five? Okay, and I think I'm gonna be right. You're gonna be wrong. Do you think they win five? They can win five, but I think they're gonna win four. I think they're gonna win two more. Then we're both right because I said four to six. All I know is that they're sweeping the a f

C East too. I locked that one. What if they don't win another one, then we'll both be wrong. We were a little hot. Would that surprise you, Yes, that would surprise me. They did because I think they're getting better. I think they're getting better and they play hard. That matters. There's no chance. There's no chance they're losing to the Texas. That's not happen. You would you would think not, but

they already have once. Yeah, that was the first game, first game of the year for the coach, and came back on the roads. I mean, that's tough. I just I just think that they're getting better on defense and whatever they are on offense, they're limited, period, and the story you can't do anything. You have to have a good special team's day. You still have that. You know, they've scored a couple on long ones on special teams this year. You haven't had a few weeks, been a

little while, but that's a possibility at some point. So, j JP, how many games do you think they're gonna win? I said, they're already sweeping the a f C. So they're gonna beat the Jets. That's that's not the question. They're gonna win. That's too. I think they can get the forty niners this week. I think they can get the Falcons. Four. I'm gonna give them four, and they're not gonna beat the Texans. I'll give him the Texans, not the Falcons. So four. So you're saying the same

thing we're all saying. I think it's four. And then the cold as we go through this thing, how many games have they actually been blown this through the rings and had no chance of winning? Uh? Yep? Week one, Week one? I mean really the Titans game, I mean they came back late, but I mean with a kickoff return or whatever. That's that's three Cardinals game ended up different. I mean it was thirty one nineteen. Yeah, but they were in that game and then they were leading in

the third quarters. They weren't really blown out of that game, right, they were blown out in the second half the Titans gate Tony's right, that was that was they were handled that game. So what three three? The three of them nine and so that that says something too, I think so. But again, they're getting better, particularly on defense, they're better. I don't think they're gonna get better on offense until they get receivers in there. So should we start going

through the receivers? Did you watch the House States receivers on Saturday? I think those guys could they could walk in and start right now. The both three of them, they got them, They got three of them. Hey, let's come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real when you return. YEA, where's my case? It's it's it's under mail. They just called me. They told me it's on the way. Don't worry about it. Do you have

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checks Inville Jaguars, Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after a week ten lost for the Jaguars to the Indianapolis Colts, and it's time now for keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert von Davie. Opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Bondavi. Oh, we touched on this a little earlier, but we're gonna go back to it here. Offensive line play taking a lot of heat on social media. Tony,

how is it? Um? I don't like If I'll say this, if you were giving me a list of offensive issues, the offensive line will be at the bottom meeting right now. It's playing more consistent than any other group. Like if you're saying, okay, who's playing at the higher level and consistently at the higher level? Is it quarterback? Running back? Offensive line of wide receivers? And I'll lump in tight ends with the or put it items as a separate group too. And I'm just saying right now it's Dolfin's

line is the most consistent best group. Could I to help solidify that and to get you a little angry, can I give you some PFF grades from yesterday? All right? Number one ranked offensive player was Cam Robinson would agree with that, alright. Number three offensive player Ben bartche Ben's who called it? Who you did? Did you did? It was only it was only about it's all about three weeks ago. Don't get a little out of yourself. Well

by the way weeks ago it might be. It might even been last week when you guaranteed the then Andrew Norwell sixth best, and I think that grades a little too high. I didn't think he was very good in past protection. Uh Jowan Taylor eighth best and Tyler Shatley eleventh best. So you had of the top eight players, you had four offensive linemen in it on Suddy. So there that that's a little fun. I mean, not that their grades are accurate all the time, but that lets

you if you watch the tape. Yeah, I'm not saying it's perfect. Very few offensive lines are, you know, but they're playing. Are they're playing good enough to win football games? Yes? Okay, And this is a question, so does this mean the end of Lender and Can in Jacksonville? I think Can probably. It will be a pricing question because I think this is his last year and his deal if I'm not mistaken, So I think he might be a free agent of this year. I think he's got it next year, doesn't he?

I don't know. But either way, if if he has one more year, it'll be a big number. If he does it, he's a free agent. Either way. They're gonna ask the question, you know, Yeah, he's on the books for next year. Yeah, and what's what's his number? Ten million dollar capit? But let me see what're releasing him. What we're releasing him would do? They don't save anything. They save the whole thing if they release him. There's

no ambortization or anything, so he could go. Well, question, I think, remember, you have a bunch of calf space already. It said you need his calf space. Um, And I think I'll say this. I would be in no hurry to release him because let's see what you do in the draft, you know, let's see what else you have about there. Are you Are you comfortable with Casey McDermott. Is your backack up to uh Shatley? I mean there's a lot. You think there's much difference between Shatley and Linda.

I think I think Lenda is a little bit better a pass walker, I would agree, but run game probably Shatley is right there with him, right, yeah, I think just as good. So ten million and Shatley's contract is minimal. Not that they need the same money, but well, because you want to make sure you have depth, you don't want to do you don't want to you know, he's also coming off injury. Well that's the other question. I mean, he's been injured quite a bit lately. Um So I

think those are all things you have to evaluate. But I mean, at the same time, I don't think you're in a position to get rid of get rid of good salt football players either. He's only only thirty. Yeah, that's my point. I mean, are you are you really ready to get rid of him now? Do I think you need to pay him ten million bucks a year? Do I think anyone else is gonna pay him ten molton million bucks a year? Tony Baselli Jaguars General manager, what would you do. I'm gonna keep on the roster

until I get through the offseason. See what else? Okay, you get through there, you get through the all season, and you have a choice to bring him back with chat Lee. Do you bring him back? Do I need? Do I need his money to go sign anyone else? You might why I need to know that? I mean, I got but you're you're not gonna bring it back

a ten million no matter what it is. What you're saying, well, I probably based out who go to him and say, let's say I can't get a young player and you or anyone out and free and see you in the draft. I'd go back to him and say, hey, I want to extend you. I want to do a three year deal instead pay you ten next year, I'll do let's do three years, you know, twenty million. You know, I'll guarantee you twelve it or something. You know, you do

something like that because you lesten the cat number. You know, you spread out. You get him till these in his mid thirties. Don't you gotta pay the left tackle? Yeah, you're gonna pay him a bunch of money, and you should pay him right now. He's been, he deserves it. I agree, I would pay him. I didn't think I would be saying that, but I would pay him. Yeah, I think you have to, but I would pay him. I would also say, hey, I want to do a

three year deal. Pame three years, sixty million guaranteed. He ain't gonna do that. He gonna do that? Well, how much is he gonna get on the open market the NFL? As of lines? Don't you see him every week? Well here's okay, that's a good point, and you have to look at what. Well, the one thing I would do is I franchise him. So now you take away some of his leverage, and so I could play this franchise game. Because last year's franchise game was only thirteen million. So

how you franchise again. Let's say it's seventeen million. Okay, I'll just keep on doing this and and you know, look, Orlando Brown will be on the market. He's a better left tackle than Orlando Brown. Is I thought Orlando Brown, Uh no, he's got one more. Didn't They didn't sign his extension. He didn't sign him new extension, didn't thought? I thought, Yeah, I looked the other day that they extended him. No, look at his contract. They gave a first rounder for him. I know that he's got. His

contract expires at the end of this year. Oh, I mean Cam's have way better player than he is, way better, way better. Yeah, I'm taking Cam all day long over him. But I think Brown's a right tackle. I don't think he is. I know he is. Um what Okay, let's talk through left tackles right now in the NFL. Where does Cam Robinson rank? So, let's Trent Williams. But Trent Williams is to hold on, I'm not Why are we going all the way to Trent Williams. Let's go. Let's

just start here. Let's start South. Okay, ye South, I will argue right now, Can Brownson is the best left tackle in the NANC South. Okay, So he's better than Lan Yes, he's better than Yes physical council. Okay, let's go to the a f C. West. He's better than Garrett Bowls. He's better than Orlando. Brown's better. You wouldn't take a moment and Slater, although his later player is decreased a little bit the last couple weeks, I still

like Slater. Okay, I'll say this, it's a coin toss between Slater and him, but I probably take Slater just because he's younger and cheaper. He's younger at Champers, I take him, okay. And then and then you get to, uh yeah, Colden Miller, Yeah okay, Okay, have a rookie left tackle. No Bengals have Jonah Williams, No um Browns. Browns you take? Would you take Wills over them? That's close? Wills is like he's good, okay, and he's cheaper, but

it's close, okay. And then the Ravens, you would, you would take him over the villa in the way, but he stinks. Okay, So there's one. So you have one definite and at a project in Slater, who's you take? There's two? Okay, I'm not taking Miami's. I'm not taking Buffalo's. I'm not taking you would you would consider he ac Cordy Glens as good as I'm not quit But Deon Dawkins, Deon Dawkins is as good as uh this year. The way they're playing, I'm taking camp. They're the same, They're

the same, They're about the same. Come on, okay. If you're I'm putting Slater ahead, I'm putting doctors behind. I'm just I'll get to my point here in a second Buffalo, No, um, Patriots and UH and the Jets. Beckton when he's there, No, I'm taking Beckton is not just then, but he's also played a year and not even a full year of games. I'm taking camp. My point is Cam is he's the second or third best left tackle in the NFC. Go

to the NFC. Now, I'm point he might be. He might be the second or third best left tackle in the a f C. Yeah, but by the way, where JP go? I'm right here, I'm still listening because where just where you getting into converseat? Okay? JP? Now, okay, so two or three, let's go to the NFC. Okay, NFC. He's better than the Giants, he's better than the who has a second year player, So that kid is gonna be good. It doesn't matter. You don't know that. I'm

just saying he's better. He's better than the Eagles. He's better than the Umton Washington football too. And he's better than, not be than Dallas. He's not better than Dallas. Okay, tyrants, but Tom Smith has been heard up. But I'm fine, Okay, let's go to the South. Now, he's better than um Jake Matthews. He's he's better than he's not better than Armstead. Okay, there's two. I would say he's Donovan Smith. He's a better or good better than Donda. So okay, I'm saying,

and uh, who's the other one? Who are we missing? That league? Carolina is terrible? It's terrible too. Okay, he's better than the uh. Okay, not Trent Williams. He's got as good as Trent Williams. Um, he's not better than wit Worth right now? Yes, I'm taking him over with Worth. Watch younger. Okay, go watch him Pete when he when they get stuck playing drop back football, what happens. He's not He's not better Witworth. But go ahead, keep going. Okay,

he's better than the uh. He's better than Al's guy. Right now, I was playing terrible better than the Niners. He's better than Niners guy. Okay, no, no, Track Williams is Niners guy. You're better in the Arizona guys. And then we're going, what's the other division? One? Last? Oh? Green Bay? He's better than green Bay's right now because Mark Dar's out, he's not better than el than Jack Alan Jack is good left tackle. He's a guard, but he's played good at left tackle. But whoever plays there

is better than him. Whoever it is is better. I'll give you that's four. That's four. That's four guys. He's better than the Bears, he's better than the Vikings a rookie, and he's better than Vikings and and he's equal to Decker at the Lions. He equals the same. My point is he's a top pen He's a top eight pen tackle. That's all. My point is, you pay that guy. Pay that man his money. He's top ten, top eight in this position. You would have had him pay Luke jokel

second contract. That's not you're a liar, j P. Why he has been the football? That was a good segment. We get my feet off the table. I was resting while I was listening to this conversation Cam Robinson, who I questioned whether they should franchise in this year. I was. I was hesitant to do what they did, and because I wondered what he show up after he got paid. He's a better player after getting paid than he was before he got paid. But he hasn't exactly got paid,

he got a got a franchise tag. So now he's got you gotta go play again. He's playing for the next deal or for the next year. No he no, you're wrong. He hasn't been paid yet. I tag him and trying to negotiate a deal to my liking again. Like you said, he took the same thing I do. Why just follow me, Pete. I'll take you where we need to go. Actually, you guys, I'll take you where we need to go. Tonight we'll need to come back and get to social media questions. That was Keeping It

Real by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Opened up a winner today Ingredients Award winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. Thirty minutes left of this one. Tonight's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network that the Jaguars listen to ten ten x our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Biselli, glad you're long one us. After the Jaguars fell to the Colts in Weaked tene seventeen,

it's time for social media questions. And Tony I must say, you look really excited for this segment. He loves it. JP. I was on Twitter actually looking at the question, JP. That's why I was scanning your pre segment work. You're researching. I like that. Let's get to it. Then we put out the bat signal earlier. Here's the best we came up with at Berman. What percentage of Trevor struggles to this point or on him? And what percentage is on

the wide receivers an offensive coordinator. I think it's forty three point seven six four three on him and I can't wait to hear the other number. Fifty three uh point to three six five on darrel level. That doesn't add up, No, it doesn't. But what did you do? So you you put it on the receivers, on on him and the the what do you put it on? So me, I'll give you a right here's the answer. I put on. I put ten on the offensive line, I put on the quarterbacks, I mean on the on

the tight ends. I put um, I put twenty five. I put five percent on the running back. I put on the quarterback, and I put on the receivers and on the coach. People added up all right, I put more on the wide receivers. I put more on the coach.

I'd probably go thirty and thirty for them, and I probably go thirty five and because I think the receivers are being problem uh and then offensive line probably ten Like you said, tight ends, I mean, yeah, I guess recently though, it's hard to put it on Arnold, So I'd probably go five percent on them, and then the staff for who they hired put their rest on on the head coach. It's a bad offense. It's a bad offense.

It's a bad offensive. And I will say this, I think there will be major changes to the offense after this season. Major. Nobody's told me that. Huh new often new coordinator, whole new thing. He thinks will be changes at the coaching levels. What are you saying, JP, I've heard that, Yes, and draft a wide receiver and sign one in free agency. Now, there isn't anything in free agency worth the Dan not gett Davante Adams. Two first rounders for Davante Adams, No, would you? Yeah? No? Wow?

By the way, your first two members of you know what why why Pete two? I might trade one and something else. Okay, let me ask you a question. Would you trade your first and second round er ulterorately top ten in the in the round next year to the Packers? We want to Adams? Is he also go to more been to a guy who can rush the pass or two? No, I'm just asking you the question. People, I would not. I would because you're gonna have to pay him the

highest making, the highest paid receiver in the league. To fine you immediately. Yeah, you know what he's you know what, he's not young? Well how old? I think he's older than that? Yeah, yeah, he'll be twenty nine in December. Okay, here's a good five years left him. J P. Would you do that? Or would you draft? Would you drafted? Would you rather have Davante Adams or drafted guy like Garrett Wilson in the first round and come back and get another one in the second round. I'll tell you what.

From from a high stake number five, So would you take Garrett Okay, who's gonna be better for the next three years? Garrett Wilson or Toronto Adams? Ronte Adams? But you also don't have anybody else. If you get another one of the second round, you get too. They need more than one. They need more than one, they need three. So the first three picks of the draft receiver two or from Ohio State, once from Alabama. They're all full. Ye o house steak guys, why not bring them? Which

Alabamacare would you take? Jamison Williams went to Ohio State? Yeah? Absolutely, I'll say this. I didn't. I probably wouldn't make the trade. I didn't know Davante Adams was twenty nine next year for some reason, next year, next month, That's what I mean. I didn't. Next season he'll be twenty years old. Yeah, I didn't. I wouldn't make that trade. That's all that's getting up there. So I would Uh. Yeah, you drafted wide receiver, though, who's the best young wide receiver like

or Jamaar Chase? Would you okay? Would you call? Would you call Minnesota said we'll give you a first and a second for Justin Jefferson. Yes, they wouldn't. They wouldn't do it, would they wouldn't do it? Of course? Not you give two first rounders for Justin Jefferson. I think about it. Type quarterback needs that It used to be you didn't need you didn't need that guy. You need that guy now because here's the thing, Peter Manage a question. Who won the Jalen Ramsey trade? The Rams did, Yeah,

we got the two players. We got c J. Henderson and um and uh what's his name? Jason and c J got those rounders. Yeah, oh no, no, that's I'm sorry. Year. So, uh it was who's who's your before we got it was Chason? Who who's the year? Before? We picked who was this year? It was a running back? It was chased on Sorry et m Chason. But one the Rams did, who would you go sign Chris Godwin? Is Chris Godwin of the number one? That's a good question. That's what

I mean. He's gonna be here. Here's what the receiver are gonna be on the market, Davante Adams if you could get him as a free agent, but he won't come here. You get Allen Robinson. No, Chris Godwin. How fast this Chris? He's not a Burgner. He's pretty good though, he is pretty good. And how much you him? You get some feet they can bring back here. They can really upgrade the receiving corps. They can bring back Allen Robinson and Keeling Goal. Oh my gosh, they're both brain hurt.

I would take a long look at Chris Godwin. How about this, how about we get a young guy in the first round and Chris Godwin because everything I hear about Chris Godwin is he's a pro, he's a great kid. He's a great kid. You get Godwin and your draft Garrett Wilson, All of a sudden, receivers are because anybody then you can fit the third one, and whoever it is, that's right. You're Keepan calls your third Well, DJ Chart come back on a one year deal. I don't know

a choice. Yeah, I mean anywhere there you go, there you go, bring him back. Let's move along. Show they have a cornerback, they can convert to wide. Receivers are by the way, so you're the first two numbers of the percentages you threw add up to nineties seven point zero zero zero seven five. That's well. The other two point zero zero zero five four I give to the tight ends something. Are you just throwing a pile on on the tight end just like Pete does all the time?

Question number two on social media, John row All, what changes would you make an offense to help with Trevor's development the second half of the season, Pete, I feel like this one's just set up for you. I would get those receivers to do more, bunch of picks and rubs and stuff. Get them free. They can't win, and Io's they're not Iso rat receivers. They can't win. There's no we've seen that. Okay, it's halfway at halftime. We were half way through the season, and we still know

they can't win. So do something to get them free. Get creative. I'm so tired here. Pete talked about bunch rubs, picks and everything else doing just so Pete shuts up about that. Yeah, we're even you admit you're hearing it more more and more in that town too. And and people around the league say the same thing. They're very predictable. You know. People around town are saying that Pete's talking about it too much. You know, I don't know people. People are saying, Tony, I hear that a lot, Tony,

I don't know. And I get it on Twitter how smart I am because they all agree with me. I you know, Pete, that's not the one I get. I hear like as Pete gain weight and he's not very smart. That's what I get. Those are the two. No, one of the two is accurate. Just like you three sixty, I get a lot. Does does peanut like a little turkey? Uh? Little turkey? Uh? What's that thing? Turkey neck going? Little beard? All I know is all I know is moving. As I know is all I know is three weeks ago

you told me you're on a diet. I'm starting Monday. No, three weeks ago you said you said you were on a diet, and that was it. It was over with, It gets done with. I got a challenge for you. No, I'm done fat ball season. I got no challenges to our fatball season. Who can lose the most weight between now and Super Bowl Sunday? No, let's do this. Who will lose the most weight by now and your induction ceremony? That could be? I mean, when's that gonna? I didn't

want to say it. I was letting Tony say it. I might not be around for that. He's digging a hole again for you, Pete. I don't know. No, No, that's that's this. That will be next summer. Okay, So how are you gonna? We gotta weigh in? I'm in, I'm not. I don't want to wait. We'll wait you who's that? I'll wait in, like, dude, I canna do it, bete. If BASSELLI gets doesn't get in, I go on a hunger strike. I don't want to talk about that, right. Uh,

just start to get it. We're starting to build momentum. We're building momentum. Let's get the next question. Next question. He always dodges, he does, he deflects. Perry's that puncher. Right, Let's get to one more question on social media. That's all we got time for at Destin Ray. Uh, what's the number one glaring need for this team? And let's not do this question. We already answer all this stuff. What's the number one glaring need? Well, Tony locked the game.

We've already talked about the glaring needers receivers, And yes he's locked the game. This is at Douvall Underscore twenty four. After making some Sky're gonna win four games. Yeah he didn't lock the game. Yeah, I thought I thought you locked the Niners game. You counted that as one of the four games. You count as one of the know, I got four games, no matter, but I think you should lock it. Yeah, you said everything is in their favorite three time zones one o'clock him. Sure, okay, fine,

you know what? Okay, you know if the forty Knights go out to night and destroy the ramty, where's the key? Let's unlock the all right? Our next question that Duvall underscore twenty four. After making scheme adjustments, this defense is much improved. What great will you give them? Now? Who would you pound the table for them to resign for twenty two? I never missed the show, and I hope you keep it going for years to come. Thank you,

You're welcome. I don't know I got ten more to go because don't he killed me a dead Remember a couple of weeks ago he said, I want' gonna make it to um. Okay, there's a lot of questions in there. Who's gonna bring number one? They? I think they simple, They simplified stuff in the back. Calf I ain't got the biggest thing, and I think they got more aggressive in there. And Josh Allen's playing better. I mean he's

playing good football. Are you pounding? Yeah, Josh Allen? I want you gotta I mean I would sign them early as you can. You gotta bring him back. You can't let Josh Allen walk out of this building ever. Okay, but do you let do you let um you also? So you'll tag your franchise tag came Robinson and resigned Josh Allen. But you still have this is on Josh Allen's third gear, so you have them for two more years, right,

you don't? So you let him play next year and there's rookie deal and then you go lock the up and you go lock them up. Yeah, So I'm like, you can't sign him. Who is who's on defense that becomes free agent this year? I'm not I'm not Taven know. I love him. It's great, he's playing better football. But I mean, I'm not gonna pound the table from table. But if you got him on a better minimum deal or something with some sign you'll take him. I'll take

them on defense. Will nobody free nobody? You don't have to pound the table for anybody. They're all back. Welcome back. Uh, there you have. Our social questions are in. We'll come back in a moment. Look around the league and week number ten. Here's some radio calls and wrap it up. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Had Fat Tony Jaguars Today all Jaguars, all NF bel all the time, tended New Weekdays on ten ten x L Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour after Week ten

lost for the Jaguars. J P, Shadrick Pete, Prisco, Tony Basselli, Pete. We're talking about receivers a moment ago in the draft, guys and all that think about Jamison Williams at Alabama couldn't get on the field or Ohio State. He played in the in the playoff last year, but that was it. I mean, he wasn't out there a whole lot those guys. It wasn't exactly on the field all the time for Alabama early in the year either. He was absolutely from day one, absolutely had a nineties. Didn't play as much

as some of the other guys did though, touchdown. The first question, are you are you really questioning JP, who knows all things Crimson Tide. He was on the field old days Miami. The question JP, JP, the other guy was the lead receiver. But the season mat you John match you was I'm with you on that. But Williams was out there. It wasn't like he wasn't playing. He was playing. He was getting the ball too, anyway he could could Ohio State. That's how good those three guys

are are Ohio State, That's my point. And Ohio State might score sixty this week against Michigan State. They have the worst past defensive football. Let's go question question on the um the receivers the next year. I mean, like, let's assume we pick if we win six games, will pick ten. They're not winning six games, so they'll pick six or seven or eight something like that. Will any of those I mean, will those topics be there? Yeah? Mhm. Let's go and and you gotta get a one who

can run. You know that. Gotta run, gotta be able to run. You don't want a slow guy. You're saying, don't get a guy who can't run. We've seen slow guys get picked in the first round and they haven't worked out. Yeah, you can't do that. It's not ideal. Let's go around the National Football League getting some calls. Let's start with the Dallas Cowboys hammering the Falcons. The Cowboys open the scoring Prescott to Lamb a thirteen yarder.

Brad Sham with the call on the Dallas Cowboys Radio network and one oh five three the fan in Dallas Prescott and the gun pointing maybe changing something. One receiver split wide right back to throw looking laugh looking, throwing into the end to from on the outside of the end, leaping touchdown cow Boys. That got him going. They didn't slow down at all. Pete, Yeah, that was. The Falcons made a really weird decision. There was seven three and they had a fourth and Evan and they could have

kicked the forty nine yard field goal. I think it was with a good kicker, and they went for it. Well, they got stopped. It was intively passed, and on the very next play or next drive, they were right down the field and got it, made a fourteen three. The game was over. That was. These guys are out of control with this stuff sometimes. Now what what cowboy team are we gonna get it? I mean it's like, is it the team who played the Broncos and got just

killed or the teeth that killed the Falcon? Who are they? Well, well know a little bit. This week they played the Chiefs and Arrowhead this week, great matchup. First one the forty wins Patriots over the Browns, Big seven, the Builds hammering the Jets. Yes, JP, stay at the Patriots watch out because here comes to Patriots. They have a really best coaching job. It's his best coach team job ever right now. He's a great coach. They got a rookie quarterback. Like.

They make it easy on the rookie quarterback too, by the way, they really do kid smart, accurate, and they make it easier. It's not like he has a bunch of weapons run around out at the receiver position that you're like, you know how to scheme them up. I'm telling you, they're good. That's fun, that's exciting. I'm happy for mac Jones. Lions and Steelers played to a sixteen sixteen tie after overtime. Pat Friar Moves fumbled in the

final seconds of overtime. Dan Miller had the call. Courtesy of w x Y T FM, n W the Ticket and the Detroit Lions Radio Network. Nason Rudolph leans and he's got it. Throws the out pattern to Friar Moves. He loses. The football's free on the ground. It is the Lions football. The Lions picked it up again the second course, buffal and overtime and they come out of there with it. The Lions have got the football. With eight seconds left, recovered box right flowers. One of the

ugliest over times ever. Pete, Well, I mean people act like the Steels would have won the game if he didn't fumble. They had to kick along field gold. Even after that, it would have been a long one. I mean, there's no guarantee in that place. It's hard to kick in that place. It was radiant. That was gross. It was gross. It was a gross game, ugly game. It deserved. End of the time. Titans over the Saints one, Washington over the Buccaneers. What happened to the Bucks? Beat quickly?

You know, it's funny. Early in that game, Tommy was a little jumpy. When he starts getting jumpy, got pressure on the inside, he starts throwballs all over the place. He didn't play well, they didn't play Hey, Pete, what happened to the Saints? You told me the Saints over the beat the Titans. The Titans are the best team in all of the football right now? Are they the best team in all of football? Yes? I picked the Titans to win that game. By the way, I just

said the Saints would be close, and it was. They lost by two. Last week on this show, you said the Saint to win. He said, they have a chance to win. I didn't lock anything. Let's move along. Panthers over the Cardinals. Cam Newton in the game in the first quarter and then the end zone. Nick Mixon on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network six five pounds. Three time Pro Bowler Cam Newton. Kaffrey swings out of the backfield. Why to the right? Newton is gonna run right in

the grass, breaks a tackle, Jaffrey. Everybody celebrating touchdown right side, first play a touchdown, Cam Newton. He's got his helmet off and he's pumped. Oh my gosh. I was yelling with his helmet off after the touchdown. He's back. Pete, Yeah, I like that. I'm back, you know, and you know what he's starting this week. He's their starting quarterback. From here on out, he will be the starting quarterback. And

they need they got a good defense. He was back and he cost the pteen yards in my right would you would you? Bean mad No? Good point. Vikings over the Chargers twenty The Eagles over the Broncos thirty thirteen. The Eagles defense got in on the act of Darius Slay fumble return for his score. Mill Reese on Sports Radio w I p under Ton of this time as Bridgewater,

but belvid Court behind them. Fourth and one, he keeps the court at Gorton is knockdown, football comes loose, Eagles come up with it, Slay picks it up, Slay running with the ball, and Slay takes off to the fourth side of the field, to the thirty to the forty slight running away from people. Slay at the forty the thirty ten five touchdown. I think Darius Slay it counted eighty three yards Eagles with well, I mean, Kedy Bridgewater. What was Kenny Bridgewater doing? Did you say, yes, he

just let me. What would you as a player if you saw that the next day, I would say something like, what are you dealing dude? Like throw yourself in there. Right. First of all, you're not Tom like Tom Brady, You're not Kenny bridge Water make a play because the game was still in doubt. It's not Yeah, they were going into tie it. When he was fourth down, they were going into tie it. Right. If that's like the end, you're down one at the end of the game, get

out of the quarterback. We're still in the game. By the way you tackle them at midfield, get a three, and now we get the ball back right. That was that was embarrassing. The final couple of scores, Packers over the Seahawks, first shutout of the Seahawks in ten years. The Chiefs over the Raiders forty one fourteen. Time for Monday Night football Tonight, the l a Rams at seven

and two get Von Miller for the first time. On defense, they'll visit Santa Clara and the San Francisco forty Niners at three and five will get an early live scouting report. Who you got tonight? I got it's a It's gonna be bad. That's a bad forty Niners offensive line. The right tackle is going to be making might be right. Tacle might be making his first start this week. Mcglinch, he's out. Tom Compton might not be there. So they got problems. What pete, what happens if? What is the

forty Niners record right now? They're they got three with five, three and five, let's let'sten. What if they end up six and eleven. There's problems because there's you're hearing rumblings that there's some issues between Kyle and John Lynch. They have issues. There's issues who goes, who goes first? John Lynch goes, Wow. Wow. There you have it. Monday Night football is in Pete. Have a great week. We'll talk to you all right. Guys, you too, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco,

our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver. That'll do it for our show. I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.