Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, January 3

ahead of course, every Monday. CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco standing by well here from Pride of the Jaguars, left tackle Tony Boselli coming up in the second hour of the program tonight or a few weeks seventeen, because we must Patriots fifty Jaguars ten. I'm not sure how they got ten. Social media questions. Yes, social media is an interesting space these days. We'll go around the NFL and here some radio calls from around the league as

well well. The Jaguars and the Patriots. Jaguars are never won in Foxborro. That continued. The Patriots scored on eight out of ten possessions in the game yesterday, including five consecutive touchdown drives to open it up four in the first half and then their opening drive of the second half as well. The Jags defense just couldn't stop the

march of the Patriots offense led by Mac Jones. The Jacks offense struggled three giveaways interceptions by Trevor Lawrence, and it ended up being one of the worst losses in Jaguar's history by a margin of defeat. The Jags outmanned. They had to promote the majority of the practice squad of the active roster due to the COVID nineteen outbreak. Guys signed off the street late in the week twenty on the reserve COVID nineteen list at game time yesterday,

after the game, Trevor Lawrence on focusing what he can control. Yeah, I mean, obviously haven't been here that long, and I've been here for a year. Um, so we'll well, you know, we'll see in this offseason. That's something like I said, we we got one more left, and I'm putting everything I have into this last game and and trying to get a win and finished wrong with these guys and

and on a positive note. But um, yeah, I mean, I you know, I haven't been around the NFL long, so I really you still don't even know how how everything completely works. But um, you know, I'm just trusting you know who's in leadership positions. You know, at the end of the day, of my job is to be a quarterback, um and to lead this team. And you know I can only do so much, and that's what I'm gonna do. So UM. Other than that, you know, I'm just gonna put my head down, go to work,

and UM. Yeah, I have faith that that that we are going to come out um in a way better spot next year than we are right now. So I a hundred percent believe that, and I'm just looking forward to um doing that because a lot of these guys deserve it. That's Trevor Lawrence after the game in Foxborough yesterday. Pete Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer, joining us now, and

good afternoon to you, Pete, Happy new year. Go ahead, tell you what he he comes in or losing Pete in and out just a little bit there, and we'll get back to him coming up in just a moment of course. Uh. You know, give Trevor credit. He comes out every twice a week Wednesday afternoon Wednesday morning rather and actually afternoon after practice, and then after the game each Sunday, even after the fourteen losses, he comes out and he faces whatever fire there is from the media.

And there have been not so good performances from time to time, obviously yesterday one of those with three interceptions, and the Patriots scored off of each of those interceptions in the game. But he comes out and he's answering the questions and doing the best he can to to lead this team and and be the guy out there in front of a lot of things. Obviously that with all the coaching change in such early you're in the season,

he was a huge, you know voice in that. It sounded like after the facts, So you know, it's not anything that a rookie quarterback should have to go through, is it fair? No, But he's going through it. And I thought yesterday he stood up there again after a forty point defeat and gave it the best he could in front of the media yesterday, Pete Frisco back with us. Now are you with us? Pete? Yeah? I'm here? Uh j P. He was the only one who met the media, right,

that's correct? Yeah, I don't why was there any explanation for that? You better done that team, you throw him to the rules. What is that? I don't know. Um, I think it was obviously. Listen, so the state of affairs these days. The locker rooms not open. It hasn't been open all season. Um, there was zoom only yesterday. Not sure who all was in Foxborough or up there for the game or on the zoom or asking for players, but we were on the postgame show, so I wasn't

really involved in a lot of that. But I mean, usually there's two or three players right in addition to him. Yeah, especially if the defense gives up a fifty burger, right, you want to hear from him a little bit. But it just didn't. It didn't have I don't I don't like I don't like that. I don't. I don't like that. That's bad luck. I mean, and look, I understand COVID is a problem right now, but even if you're virtual, you gotta put guys, make them available, make them available.

And I think there's a method to the madness sometimes and not making guys available. Um, and so look it, COVID is is something that's out there. But again, the way this thing is playing out, you got to make those guys available. I'm sorry you put the leaders on. You gotta face the music. And whether it's Josh Allen or Miles Jack or whoever, then again, maybe Miles Jack was driving home from the Windland and he had to get an early head start on his trip. Well, that

was the story. This afternoon, Daryl Bevil explained that after last week when he tell I said positive when the team was up there, he had to get in a rental car basically with an athletic trainer and drive all the way back from New York to Jacksonville last week because it was positive. So but couldn't he have they were going to send a plane or something that. Couldn't they have done that? Or the report I saw was that it was going to be another two or three

days to get it up. Something was going on with it. I don't know what's the deal with that. But they just hopped in the car and came on. What is that twelve hours? Eleven hours. I've never driven to New York, but it's still I mean, it's not pleasant, but I'll be honest with you, the way he played in some of those defensive players played on Sunday, they should have

made them all drive home from New England. That was bad. Well, it was a rough day at the office, I say that, yes, yeah, And and how many guys who are starters on that defense weren't there? JP Shack Griffin, he was out. We're going through it. We're going through it. Shatt Griffin was not there. Uma Smood, Yeah, Smooth was out. That was a late scratch with COVID nineteen UM safety Racheon Jenkins had the fractured ankle. That's a long time ago. He

hasn't played a couple of weeks. So that's right, isn't it? Two weeks? This one week? Last week? Was that last week? Two weeks ago? Friends last week because Cisco came in and played. That's right, that's right, that's right. Last week wing wingered was out. So that's three. Oh, let's see the rest of the list here. Those are the three. That's it. But that's that. Those three shouldn't mean fifty points. Hmmm. Now there was a defensive touchdown. Yeah, still fifty and

they didn't really slow him down all day long. It was a methodical march down the field. Each time the Patriots had the football, they were getting, you know, a chunk of yards every time It wasn't like big exclusive plays for the page. Was just driving down the field. They scored on eight of ten possessions. They knelt down at the end of the game and putted one time that was it. So I don't care they blocked the edge.

The edge was terrible. They couldn't you know, they ran wide a bunch of times and they didn't do a good job with that to jar wars And and then there's zone coverage. Every time he just had somebody open. He thinking dunk it, and there was not a lot of There was almost no pressure. And when they think it was that was that got the pressure the one time and at the face mask don't yeah, well yeah he hit him in the apparently hit him up above the head. They had him on the sack johad Ward

and that was a penalty overturned the whole thing. And I don't think the officially had a quarterback hit all that. They had zero quarterback hits in the in the staff book. Zero. Yeah, they don't get any pressure. It's just it's not a good pass rush team. And if you can't, he's gonna stand back there. I mean mac Jones had all day. There was one play where he just stood back there and stood back there and stood back there. It was. It was just a bad defensive performance all the way around.

And you wonder, um, you know, this is supposed to be a group that they spent money on that side of the ball. A lot of andy better, no, a little bit better. Are they better than they were last year? Last year was all time worse? But there are better. But they don't rush the pastor at all. And and look think about the amount of draft picks and money they've used on that side of the on the pass rush. I mean, Josh Allen's top ten, Jason he I mean he's not there, but he was. He's for the year,

he's the top five guy. Um, they spent on Ward in free agency, not a lot of money, but they brought him in there. They don't rush the passer. The best pass rusher, smooth right right, he's been the most consistent, I'll say that. And he should be a third road. He should be a third guy. That's what he should be. And so that tells you what they do. I don't know, I just it's just not it's a team that doesn't have talent. Now whether and we can blame COVID and

injuries everything else. But there was only an X amount of guys who were't on that defense yesterday, and in the front seven there was nobody of note to was who was. It was smooth, but that's it smooth. Yeah. I mean offense offensively, they they're bad all year, we know that. But in the line is the line had new guys. The line actually played okay yesterday. At times

I thought I thought Walker Little played pretty well left tackle. Yeah, he got the full game, so yeah, everybody, he was one of the better past He was good in past protection. I think he was. I think he was solid. Um. You know, Norwell had his moments where he wasn't good. Juan Taylor was better at pass protection than he's been. But boy, his run blocking is bad. He doesn't hold his blocks and his man comes off and makes tackles

in a lot of plays. The right guard, I thought when they put U seventy seven in and the game ame for his little spurts. He did some decent things. And there's a big, massive man. Now he's a big man. And then and then Chatley is always gonna fight you. He's gonna fight you all the time. And and he doesn't. And so now you look going forward, what if little Ken play left tackle like he did yesterday? Is that enough?

Is that enough of a sample size? And it's gonna have to be right if you're gonna make a decision on it. Your decision would be if you think he can play left tackle, then you get rid of Cam Robinson, then you're saving what fifteen million dollars next year? Or or you play Robinson somewhere else on the right side, baby, because I just they gotta do something up front. They gotta get or or Pete. You draft, have a Neil and then put Walker a little somewhere else too, Well, well,

where's walking a little play? When he went to the right side, he had problems over there. He wasn't comfortable. A NEI could play the right Neil could play right tackle. He has the look of a right tack right. But do you draft it? You know, you draft the right tackle number one overall? That's the question. That's a great one. Uh, you know that's gonna be one. We have a few

months to discuss and and break down, of course. But by the way Hutchinson played the other night, I don't know, yeah, but he got and I haven't watched the tape, but he got chipped a little bit. And you know the problem with being the first team that picks first this year is there's no quarterback that people want to go get quarterback last year and this year you'd like to have somebody want to go get a quarterback. There's nobody

to go get. You're picking first, that's for sure. Um, so we've got plenty ahead, Pete, We've got to break down. There's some have been reported names that have apparently talked to Jaguars leadership and the coaching search. Well, get your thoughts on some of that coming up. All the social and I want to get into I want to get into the fan base and their clown emoji. Okay, we can do that when we come back, because I know you have some thoughts of about that and we will

hear those when we returned. Tony BASSELLI doing the second Hour. Your social questions in the second hour as well. A lot to get to Today. After a fifty to ten Jaguars lost to the New England Patriots were often running It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jacksonville Sports talk for Jacksonville sports fans. Ten ten x our home of the Checksonville Jaguars, Welcome back.

It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Basselli coming up in the second hour today. After a Jaguars loss in New England fifty to ten, the final score, the second are actually tied for the third worst loss by margin of defeat in Jaguars history. Third time in Jack's history they've allowed fifty points or more in a football game. Two of those now to New England. Well, um, there's a lot going on, Pete. Obviously,

on social media these days. There was a report last week that Trent Balky would be back as general managers. Since then, many Jaguars supporters on social media have changed their photos, and you brought it up a moment ago. The clown emoji has really kind of taken over Jaguar's Twitter these days, unfortunately. Yeah, And I'm gonna say, look, as far as Balky, I agree with those in the clown emoji, I think they need new blood in there. I think they need to change it all over, and

I'm not so sure that they won't. My gut on this is Yeah, I heard that Jod like Trent Balky, but my gut is that maybe they're gonna use him throughout the process as somebody who can ask football questions in the interviews. If Trent Balky isn't there, who's asking those questions of the coaching candidates, there's nobody there, nobody, you know, it's maybe Tone Cohn, shot Con and that's and then Trent. That's it. Mark Lamping's on the business side.

He's not gonna ask football questions. You might be in there, but he's not going to ask those kind of questions that need to be asked. So I think it makes sense to keep them around for that, But it doesn't make sense to keep him around after that. Um, I

think you need new blood there. And you keep hearing you talk to people around a link, you keep hearing that there's guys that are turned off by the idea that Trent Balky will be a permanent GM, which is why I think the fans are angry about it, and they have a right to be angry. They want to clean slate. Somebody said to me the other day, if they had hired the coach and then said that Baalk he was coming back to work with them, there wouldn't be as much uproar. But now look at the uproar.

It's crazy how much of that? How much? How much of that? How much of that? Pete is articles stories coming out following up those early reports that candidates are are not happy with the way the things have gone here? Is that one of the the articles and stuff that's been going to people who say that all the time around the league. And look, I don't know Trent very well, I'll be honest with you, um, but his reputation kind

of perceives him and that's not a good thing. So I think I think they need fresh new blood in there. So I agree with the fans. What I don't agree with is the clown emoji. I mean, you've got an owner who came in there, and, granted, from a football standpoint, he's made a lot of bad decisions. So from that standpoint, I get it you're angry with him, But that man is far from a clown. And and look what he's done. He's he's gonna rebuild that stadium, he's gonna help redevelop downtown,

he's gonna build that practice facility, they're not moving to London. Um, So calling him a clown is ridiculous. Calling his football's decisions clown ish is not because they made a lot of bad football decision and a lot of decisions I wouldn't have made. I'll be honest with you. So I understand where the clown ish comes from. But he is far from a clown. The guy's made billions, He's a brilliant His life story is a brilliant story. And what he's done for that city and what he will continue

to do for that city, people should respect that. By the same token, you should be able to say his football decisions are clownish because they are, and I don't like a lot of them. I haven't liked a lot of them. But doesn't make him a clown. And that's why I think the emoji is kind of off the rails a little bit. Um. I understand the passions, good sign a lot of passions still there in that city. I've contended all along that there's a ton of it. I firmly believe that, and you know that I've said

that national shows for years. I've defended the fan base, But this one, to me is a little over the top in terms of the man. Uh, it's probably accurate in terms of the ball decisions. Well, yeah, the the way things have gone on the field, you can't hide from that record and the way things have gone between

the white lines. That's that's what it is. That that's what records are for its disaster anyway, anyway you look at it, I mean that his tenure as the owner from a football on the field standpoint has been awful. It's been awful. So I understand the venom, I understand the anger. I just think it's misdirected when you put a uh, make a clown emoji of his face, I just don't think that's what he is. I think the football side of it very clownish, very laughable. Shouldn't be

It shouldn't be this way. And so I get the fans are mad, but it's a little over the top for me when you put him in in that and make that emoji about him without saying it, you know, it's a football thing. I think you know they're football decisions. Somebody said out the thing yesterday about where they've drafted in the first round in the last decade. What do they have to show for that? Not not much, not much, almost nothing, almost nothing. Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen who hasn't

done a thing in four weeks. Chason, he's out of the top ten. But yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, but he's the first rounder. I mean at the first e t N Now he got hurt, but he's nothing. I mean, David Brian, look at look at their John Taylor. He's been one of the worst offensive line than they have. He's a second rounder. But yeah, yeah, that's what he used the second round. But you know what I mean.

I mean, Okay, let's let me let's go through. Where are the first rounders there elsewhere or out of football? In the last you got Jalen Ramsey yep for net and pick when they made it, Dante Fowler bad pit. Let's go back here, shall we, c J Henderson. Yeah, let's go through, go through all the go back from top from the last year, all the way down for the last decade. This is one Trevor Lawrence and Travis etm. Okay, the verdict, I'll be honest with the verdict on Trevor

Lawrence right now. The book on him is not good right now. So you can that picks being criticized all over the place. So I loved it. I still think he's gonna be good. I'm gonna I'm but I'm hearing rumblings about it. So Travis et m was a bad pick, hasn't hasn't played, hasn't played yet, but we're not. He's a running back bad pick, but he hasn't played yet, but he hasn't played yet. C J. Henderson and Caleb

and Chase on we lost Pete again? Will I get back with the Pete coming up in just a couple of minutes, Yes, c J. Him person gone was traded off. Of course, Caleb and Chaison has had limited results in his time at outside linebacker for the Jaguars twenty nineteen. Of course, Josh Allen has a Pro Bowl in his resume. Uh Tavin Bryanen Leonard fo Nette seventeen is of course now with Tampa Bay after he was cut by the Jaguars. Ramsey,

Dante Fowler, Blake Portals, Luke Jokle. That's and beyond This is Jaguars Happy Our JP Shadrick, Pete Prisco at Tony Basselli coming up in the second hour of the program tonight, Peter, are you back with us. Now, no Pete has gone. We'll get Pete coming up yet. So you could go through this obviously, and that's where it's a disaster. There's no other way to label one. And it's not just this pass regime, it's the one before that and the one before that. They've blown so many picks that there's

there's no there's no talent to build around. There's no guy guy. There's no core Jaguar, no core get Jaguar player in locker room. That's where it comes from. His first round guys. You gotta keep those guys around. They haven't done that, no, and for whatever reason. And and so look it's a it's a and now they have another. They're probably gonna have the first overall pick again. And now it's a year when you don't have value at that pick because there's no quarterback people want to go get.

And so who are you taking. You're taking a pass rusher, Hutchinson, Thibodeaux or Evan Neil or you trade down. But who's gonna want to trade up when you can't? You know, there's no no quarterback there in no man's land. This is not a good year to have the first overall pick. And it's not. I mean, this is not a fix it tomorrow. One change and boom, all the emojis are gone and things fixed. This is gonna take a while, Pete. I thought going into this next year that it would

be competitive for a playoff spot. I thought that when they were drafting. I thought when they had money to spend in free agency. And I don't see it being close to that next year, not close to it. I don't care who the coaches. I don't I don't care if you bought a combo Belichick and uh and Nick Saban, who are too arguably the best college coach in best the NFL coach of all time. If you combine them, you're still only winning six games seven games next year,

no matter what you do. They have no speed. Somebody sent out a tweet I sent out in August today. I don't know if you saw that. I said, can't run, can't run, can't run slow, can't run not that fast. That that and basically said that the team was too slow. And that is played out right. I mean, even even if chart was on the fields, played out to a t. They can't run. They don't run, they don't scare anybody tread was the fourth receiver. He's the best receiver. He

should be the fourth receiver. Yeah, he wasn't on the he want Yeah, where are their weapons? And then okay, New England doesn't have any weapons either. The kid that scored two touchdowns yesterday was I mean what we scored the one? Who is he? Yeah, practice squad guy. They brought him up. Well, you know what they do. They know how to scheme things open. They know how to get guys open, their offensive lines good. They run the ball, sets things up to make it easy on on the

rookie quarterback. I mean, okay, I'm gonna go through his two touchdowns. You ready. The first one, he was lined up on the left, because I watched the tape today. He's lined up on the left, Tyson Campbell's and man coverage and the tight end Henry's in the slot next to him, and they picked them and he got caught in the pick and it was wide open. Matt mac jones went to the right and throw an easy touchdown in the back of the end zone. Easy. The next one,

Tyson Campbell's on him and man coverage. They faked the bubbles green to the left, Tyson Campbell comes running up, wide open, easy throw. They made it easy on the quarterback. When you watch the Jaguars offense, they make it hard on the quarterback. And I'm gonna give you an example from yesterday's game where the quarterback is at fault too when he threw the interception when he was trying to fit it into Tavon Austin on the left side. Do

you remember that play? Little pass? But okay, he had Now, maybe he's not familiar with him, because the guy you just got there, Collie Warring, he had him on the next level wide open for what should have been about a thirty yard yard game. You don't throw it. You don't even see it. I don't think you can see it. See him back there right there, he's got a he's predetermined that ball is going there instead of going to that guy on the next level. He had Warring on.

You can see it. That's even that's not even the ALD twenty two tape. That's the TV tape. You could see see it the screen. So you you have to you have to hit that shot to the sideline and let him have a chance to turn it up and make a big play out of it. He didn't he determine where he was going. Bad throw. This is just uh an awful throw because he doesn't see him brought deck down to the one yard line yet that one, Yeah,

he didn't see it. He did not see him. He doesn't he's looking that he doesn't see him come across. That's just a bad throw. That's a bad try and force the ball throw and look it happens the quarterbacks. That happened to Matt Stafford yesterday. He didn't see his safety and ended up being a pick six. That's just a bad play right there. But the ones where he's not taking the shot on the next now, there's not a ton of him, don't get me wrong, but I

think he's doing more predetermined. He's going there no matter what then he should be doing. And maybe that's some of the hits he's taken. Maybe that he doesn't trust those eyes. Who knows, But that should have been a big play to the tight end one level up and then he could have turned it up and made it a big play. So he's he's not playing that well either. I mean, I'll be I'll be blunt about it. I love the kid. I think he's got started, Joe, but

he's not playing that well either. Plating ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour a little more defensive talk and coming up Tony was selling you. In the second hour, we'll have your social media questions. There are many, and of course this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL Home of the jetson Bille Jaguars.

My biggest messis for them, you know was I mean, we had a lot of different guys playing, and you know, guys were getting different opportunities and and a lot of these guys have fought really hard their you know, their careers, could be able to get this moment that they had, and um I wanted them to continue to just can to continue to play, continue to work for one another. Uh, you know, it's it's not an easy situation for anybody.

But the thing that we that we are planning for is we're all planned for, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars, but also the name on our back and everything that we do is being evaluated. And you have an opportunity to go out, you need to be able to to put forward your best, your best showing, and you need to continue to play and and give us everything you have. That centerim head coach Darryl Bevil after the game in New England yesterday and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour

on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli coming up in a bit your social questions in the second hour. We'll go around the NFL as well. And you know, Pete I was we interviewed Darryl Bevil of course um pregame radio as we always do. And you know I said going into the game, I mean they are tough weeks, and then there's this week. I mean they had twenty seven on the reserve COVID nine team list at one point before the game last week

I think Wednesday or Thursday. And to have guys move around like that and and go, and I mean everybody's most teams are having to deal with it. Obviously the Jaguars have not had to do that yet, but it is a a huge lift to try to get a roster together and a team together and keep playing. There two and fourteen now too, and about to be two

and fifteen if they don't get it done this week. Um, it's a it's a huge ask for any head coach, interim head coach, regular head coach, whatever it is, well it is, and particularly since guys got one foot out the door. I mean you know how that is. And anybody who's been around football teams, you know, when you get on the field, you play hard, but the week leading up to it is your final week you get It's like the last week of school. You know, all you want to do is get the test done and

get out of there. And I think that's the case when you're particularly if you're an interim coach. I mean, you want to you got It's hard to do and when you have all that stuff going on, it's a real challenge. I mean, but it doesn't matter. If they had been focused and had those guys back, it would have been thirty seven ten or whatever it was. I mean, didn't matter. They're undermanned, they don't have talent, team blacks talent.

It needs help in the worst way. And by the way, I just got some people tweeting back at me today just now after I made that. No, I'm not saying to keep balky I'm not defending Balky. I'm not. I I would change it, I would get rid of them. What I'm saying is the owner is not a clown. His football decisions have been clownish. So that's all I'm saying. So people they hear, you know, you guys out there in a Twitter world, you hear what you want to hear.

You don't listen. Listen? Did I say that JP and I defend the tread Bulky that I defend the organization from a football standpoint, probably the biggest critic out there. I mean, I was the one, you know, calling them for the coach to be fired five weeks ago. So no, I'm not defending the organization. I'm not defending their football decisions. I'm just saying the owner is far from a clown. That's just moronic. And if you put that out there,

you're being a moron, not a clown. The football decisions are bad and clownish. The owner is not. Tony this morning on radio said he stabilized the franchise in Jacksonville, and I saw a lot of tweets. What does that mean? What does that mean? What the franchise is here? He's trying to develop around it in downtown. Three teams have moved, by the way, since he bought the team. The Jags aren't going to London. Um. That is a stable franchise

in this place, at least in my thought of it. Well, and then and they're developing that area downtown, and they're building a practice facility, and they're actually going to redo the stadium, which needs to be redone, by the way. I've said it time and again, it needs to be redone. So it's old, it's outdated, it's hot, it's needs to be done. They need to make it like the Dolphins stadium. Put the covers over the seats, modernize it. That's the

same stadium it was you they just upgraded it. That's what they're gonna do. That's what they need to do. But again, I understand the fan frustration. I lived there for thirty years. I know I covered that team from the very beginning. I understand the frustration, and I understand these fans and their frustration because these fans are real fans. I've said it many a times. Jp how many times have I said it? The first round, the fans, a lot of those people just wanted to go to the

games and wine and cheese crowd. This this era of fans are real fans. That's why they're angry. I get it. I'd be angry too, But the clown emoji ridiculous. And I'll say it again. You know, if you want to make a clown emoji for the football decisions, that's fine. But to make the man a clown, you don't really believe that. You if you sat down with Jad Khan as a fan and you talked to him, you wouldn't think he was a clown. He's made bad decisions and

just no chugger coading it. The record speaks for itself. You are what you are. I say it all the time. You are what you are, and they're bad bad organization from a football standpoint, That's what it is. Right now, Hey, let's come back draft order. We've got draft talk, Pete. I know you've you've waited all season to get to it, so we're definitely gonna get to it tonight. I didn't wait all season, you guys maybe wait all right, we've made you wait. Well, now we're gonna get what we've

been uh. I guess waiting for great um veterans choose v a for the benefits you've earned. Visit choose dot v A dot gov. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy Hour, Monday afternoon. It's twenty two, it's January three. I'm J P. Shadrick, Pete Briscoe, CBS Sports Senior writer with US Tony Boselli coming up in a bit. Your social media questions there are many, and we'll go around the NFL. That's all coming up. We're gonna keep it real to Pete, we

haven't gotten there yet tonight. You know, it's days like today. You almost missed the calls we used to take, you know the way it's going right now. Yeah, it would be something. I'll tell you what we did. We did the post game calls, and you just sometimes never know what's gonna come out of people's mouths. Yeah, let's that's why I guess or a really good screener, but it is. It's you know, forty point losses will do that to folks sometime, so obviously, so hey, but part of that.

The Jaguars are now two and what fourteen right, seventeen games this season, so hey, it's they have an opportunity at least to be number one in the draft order. Here is the draft order as we speak through Sunday of week seventeen. The Jaguars would be number one overall if it ended today Detroit two and thirteen. They gave up fifty points to the Seattle Seahawks there to thirteen and one, and basically that's it. So those are the only two still vying for the number one overall pick

in the NFL Draft. A Lions win or a Jaguars loss, and the Jaguars would pick first for a second year in a row. There you have it, Pete. How about the Jets and Giants with two picks each in the top ten as we speak, Yeah, and uh yeah, they have value there. But that's what I mean. If the Jets and Giants, well, the Jets wouldn't go up to get a quarterback. But if the Giants are sitting there,

they don't want to keep Daniel Jones. If there was a quarterback available, they might want to give those picks up to go get one, but they're not. I mean, yeah, you know, most years they'll Pete, like, they'll talk the quarterbacks up enough for something will happen in the top. Not this year. They're not they're not talking to that group up enough. Wow, I've watched them all, I've studied them all, and then they're not talking that. There's not a short fire for fire guy to go up again.

There just isn't. So it's you know, Kenny Pickett from pitt would be one of the guys, but I don't think he's worth the first overall pick. Matt Corral why you ever played in that game the other day, I don't know. But he got hurt. I don't know what was the extent of that. I didn't see it. Yeah, I turned it off early. So the rays were okay, But um, you know Willis you know at Liberty up and down, Carson Strong looks good but doesn't move that well and as bad Meat. I mean, it's just not

a number one quarterback in this class. Sam How's baby baby version of Baker Mayfield? If that you on, Banker Mayfield went first overall. But I just don't think it's gonna work out for Jacksonville in that scenario. So what's gonna happen? You're basically gonna be stuck there. And if you're stuck there, what do you take best player. What if the best players. If the best players a wide receiver,

well you need a wide receiver. And if that's the best player on your board, then I guess the last wide receiver to go first overall, isn't it Key Shan It's a long time ago. Yeah, you better be good. You better be that good at least and that and that was the year the Jaguars had the second overall pick and they took Kevin Hardy. Wow, if I'm not mistaking,

that's the same year. So um, I just think it comes down for the Jackson's gonna come down to do you take Hutchinson, Do you take Thibodeaux or do you take Evan Neil. That's where I think you're at in the draft process. Which one do you take? Good? I'm more convinced now more than every Baselli has always said this, if you're good on the offensive line, your team is

gonna be good, provided you have a quarterback. I mean, if you watched Georgia play the other day in the National Chat in the semifinals for Alabama, they controlled the line of scrimmage. Both of them dominated a lot of scrimmage m HM. And you watched the you know, the like the the good teams usually dominate the line of scrimmage. You know, the NFL is a little different because there's so much more value on the quarterback position than there

is even in the college game. But for example, Bucks last year, they won because they dominated the line of scrimmage. There are exceptions to the rule. And I'll give you one green Bay, because Green Bay is playing with four backups this year right now, but them because special special Yeah yeah, So if you have the quarterback, which I think Jacksonville has, then why not build it around it? Now, there is something to be said for the other side

of that. The Bengals are going to the playoffs and their offensive line isn't that good, but they drafted Chase and all of a sudden they have three explosive receivers, are three good receivers, and they just pushed the battle to the put the pedal metal and go. And so there's two different ways to think of it. Think about that. Remember the big uproar about not taking Pinai Seul and taking Jamaar Chase. Would the Bengals be the division winners

if they picked pay Seul over Jamaar Chase. Probably not. I mean, because you wouldn't have Chase running around like a deer like you was yesterday. Quarterback, I protect them guy corner and that was the Big four. But it's so wide open now it's become the Big five. You need a wide receiver, you need a big play. Why you gotta keep up with people like you. They're gonna score. You might as well go score some points too. But

here's the other side of that. You look around the league all the good teams, where are the first in a lot of the situations like Kansas City, where's their first round wide receiver? You don't have one? Where does Buffalo's first round wide receiver? Mm? Hm, yeah I have one? No, you're right right? Where is Cincinnati has one? Minnesota has one when they're not a playoffs? And of the good

teams Tennessee haven't won. Is a j Brott? Well Julio, but he hadn't played all year, right, he's been hurt. He's been hurt. I mean, I just I just think when you look at you can get too caught up and drafted it. I think if you're good on the line and you have a good quarterback, your offense is going to be good. You have a great quarterback in your offensive line isn't good, then he can got compensated for Green Bay. He doesn't have a first round receiver,

does he doesn't second round? I mean, yeah, okay, the Rams Cooper Well, Beckham's on the team now, but before the Sea they didn't have as they had Cooper. Cup wasn't a first round pick. Woods wasn't a first round pick. They're not first round picks. So, but the game is evolved, even in the last couple of years, where if you get that guy like Chase and Jeffrey changed the dynamic of the game for those teams. They just do. But I still think you get if you can get that.

There's not one of those guys in this trap. Let's be honest about it. As good as Williams is for Alabama, he and Chaser Jefferson I think could be good. I don't think he's really good. He's the number one receiver in the draft. I agree with that. Yeah, he's the fastest, He's got the most skins of the world. I mean a Love and Wilson opt out and the other kid

goes from three over three hundred. He's the guy. Jackson Smith and Jackman was the guy all year because he's the guy and and those other guys Marvin Harrison had three touchdowns. Yes, absolutely, so I just think I just think this is a bad year and to have the first overall pick. Don't scout Hutchinson based on one game. I hate when people do that. It's just not a good thing to do. I don't know. I just saw the left tackle laying on top of him a couple

of times. You know, the left tackle is not bad at Georgia though, But I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Uh, I wouldn't go by one game. Yeah, that's what it is. Though. Um, we'll see, it's only begin and you got to see what you know, who's making the decisions all that. It's still we got a weeked in regular season and then all the stuff going on. You know, we haven't even really talked about the possibilities here, right. Who's the coaches? I mean, there's you know, so there's been all these names.

Agreement with Tony. I think they need a coach with experience, NFL experience as a head coach. Correct. They need to clean up the mess. They need to clean up the culture, They need to clean up the feeling and the building. And I'm not in that building people, but I know people that are in that building, and I've talked to people in the building. It's just dour, it's sad, it's negative.

They need I'm not saying, you know, up with people kind of well everybody, good morning, good morning sunshine, because that's not football justin. But you got to show respect to the people in the building and treat everybody's job. Here. Here's something you learn a long time ago. A lot of football coaches think their job and I used to have arguments with guys, my job is more important than your job. No, it isn't. My job is just as important to me as your job is to you. Period

respect what I do. I'll respect what you do. You you make more money, you have more visibility, you have more notoriety. I get it. But your job isn't any important to you, just like your job isn't any more important to you in terms of being a head coach then the marketing guy in the Jaguars building, or the person that's serving the food in the cafeteria or the trainer. So treat them all with respect. It's all you and making people uptight when they go to work is not

a way to function. It just isn't. And that's the way it was the entire year. So why would you possibly keep any part of what that's been. Get rid of it, get it all, start a new bringing, Bring a coach in there with experience who changes the culture, doesn't make it the miserable place that it's been, because it's been miserable. We've seen the names that at least today, Mark Long had report of Todd Bowles was supposed to speak with Jaguars leadership today. Doug Peterson and Jim Caldwell

the other two names last week. What do you make of those? I think Jim called what would be a great higher, a good man who would not bring a negativity into the building, who has experience and success by the way, with the teach fight Lions as a head coach and the Colts. Uh and and he's great with quarterbacks, He's developed quarterbacks, he's been good calling plays in the past, made Joe Flacco was Super Bowl winner, So I think he'd be fantastic. The concern is his age, but six.

The six isn't old anymore, It just isn't. We see coaches in their seven look at what was Nick Saban seventy? Yeah, Bills Bill Belichick's person seventy or not Bruce arians So I think call will be great. I think Doug Peterson's intriguing from the group of guys who've been next to at the coaches, but I think they need to go

in that direction. If you bring in young guy in, I mean the worst case scenario and that for me this is is it Balky stays and you bring it a young guy that will bow down to him, that's the worst that that Then it's the same old, same old again. You don't want that. So there you have a early look at some of the candidates reported. We've got plenty of time to discuss that over the next week,

two weeks, three weeks. So I wonder how quick this would happen, though Pete, I just don't get a feeling it's gonna be like Monday after the season, like it's gonna be a little while. I mean, there was a report the other day, and I don't know where it came from, that Trent was pushing Bill O'Brien. I saw that too. Look, Look, I I like I'm one of the few people that actually like Big Bill O'Brien. I like Bill O'Brien. I think he's got a curmudginally side

to him, but I like them. I would Bill O'Brien would be a great offensive coordinator. I think Bill, if you could get Bill O'Brien to be your offensive coordinator, to be fantastic. So we'll continue that thought when we come back. The second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour coming up, we'll hear from Tony Vaselly. We'll keep it real. We haven't done that enough yet. We'll go to social media and much more. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. H there was a conversation there in the fourth quarter, um, just just about you know, uh, you know, if we were gonn to put pull him out and give h c j an opportunity, but you know, really some of these experiences that he's having, our our experiences that we think that he needs to go through, you know, just just to

continue to get better. And uh, you know, we we were able to put a drive there together and um, you know we end up scoring touchdown, so you know, um, it ended up working on our favor. It was important that you know obviously that we were that we protect him and do those things in that drive, but uh, you know, I thought it worked out. Okay. That's interim head coach Darryld Bevel after the game yesterday in Foxborough and asked if he thought about benching Trevor Lawrence in

the game and put against C. J. Bethor. This is the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour J P. Shadrick Pete Priscoe Or recapping the Jaguars loss to the England Patriots fifty to tend. The final score. The Patriots scored on eight of ten possessions, including the first five possessions with touchdowns. They were a perfect six of six in the red zone yesterday. The Jags offense couldn't match much

of anything all day. They had an early field goal and then the late touchdown that Bevel just mentioned there. Trevor Lawrence, through three more interceptions, had that late touchdown to a Daria Gnawali on a screenplay. Tied for the third largest margin of defeat in Jaguar's history, and it's the third time the Jags have allowed fifty or more points in a game all time. Two of those now of the Patriots now one game to go. It's the first week eighteen in NFL history coming up, and the

Jaguars hosts the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts have to win to go to the playoffs. Who will be available coming off the reserve COVID nine teen list will be some questions. There were no official transactions today in that regard. Jags fans are restless and relentless. Pete Prisco with us now. I think that last part. I think, by the way, one of those games was a fifty to tenor that I was at Um when Bosselli played in in the Metrodome back in the day, Jonathan Quinn started at quarterback

for the Jaguar. Yes, abused on a month. I think it was a it was a Monday night game they got abut ninety eight maybe yep, that's right because Fred Taylor brought it up. We brought it up in post game yesterday. He's like, thanks for bringing up the Minnesota game.

What it is? They were a playoff d That's the amazing thing about it was the Jaggards were playoff team that year and just got went up there and it was loud and nasty and gross, and they just got whacked and Jonathan Quinn was awful and that was a good vice. That was a good Vikings team too. Was that was that was? That was? That was that Randy mosson um Culpepper was that the was that the fifteen and one team Vikings. I think it was the one

they went to the bowl. That's right now, you're right, yeah, they won the division, went the Super Bowl, the whole deal. Yeah. Yeah. It was fifty to ten and Jonathan Quinn, he was so bad. They lost. They remember they lost the conference championship game. The Falcon's right, the Falcons went to the that's right, that's the one. Yeah. They Jonathan Quinn was twelve of twenty seven for eighty eight yards and two interceptions in that game. It was almost passer rating was

thirty four point two. I mean, let's throwing. That's throwing the Jimmy and Keenan and I don't yeah, and Keenan Jimmy in that game. And they didn't did didn't do anything. Fred was on that team. Think about that now. The most points the Jags allowed in the game was fifty one. That was at New England and that was a day that the Patriots did not punt. They scored on every possession except the kneel down at the end of the game. So that's number one. Those games were all embarrassing. There's

nothing like game in Detroit. Never you could do a thirty for thirty on that game because nobody will believe me when they and Tony knows, they took a knee in the third quarter. They were taking a knee. Could you imagine that happened? Now? No, I can't, I cannot, I cannot imagine that thinking of taking a knee. I think Tony's trying to join us right now, what Tony, Tony Boselli is with us of the second hour of

Jaguars Happy our welcome into the program. Just the right time, Tony, because you were talking about the one of the other fifth the last fifty to ten game you were a part of. It wasn't that thing, No, No, fifty to ten at Minnesota. You were on that team. I forgot about that. That was a are slipping forty four. Nothing is still because we talked about embarrassing games and franchise history. The fifty to ten with Johnathan Quinn, you get a little bit of a pass because of the quarterback just

remember who was who? Who was not in that game? No Brunell, No, uh whoever? The backup was um because Quinn was Jonathan quin was the third string. No Fred Taylor, No Fred was in that game. He started, okay, Fred play? No Leon Searcy, I'm sorry. No. Leon Searcy had like a bunch of starters. Leon started that game too. He did not. I know him for a fact, he did not.

I'm reading the starters right here. Quinn, Fred Taylor, Zach Crockett, Jimmy Smith, Keena McCardell, Pete Mitchell, You, Ben Coleman, Quentin new Year, DeMarco, and Searcy. I'm still I guarantee you start didn't start right, I don't. I think you're wrong, but selly, Okay, whatever, it doesn't matter. We got embarrassed about it, but it's still at embarrassing. Yesterday was embarrassing. Nothing will ever top forty four nothing in the knee of the third quarter. I disagree. I think yesterday was

one of the most embarrassing. Let me tell you why. I think it's worse than the fifties or ten um. Because the fifties of the game, I mean, the Vikings were probably the best team in football that year. You know, I don't think there's I mean, now they lost, they played their worst game their fifteen and won the record season. But you were galthy that year. You were a playoff team here with our sturd string quarterback. Let me know how many sturge string quarterbacks win in the NFL gets

a really good team to do its night. Yeah, but your defense wasn't your defense pretty good that year? And then they gott Oh that was the year they weren't very good. That's right. Next year they were good. The next year they were good. Yeah, they give up all kinds of points. Um, and listen, we were bad. I'm not in the defense. My point yesterday it was like

really bad from this stamp is you. You were playing a rookie quarterback, a rookie quarterback and a team that's not loaded with offensive weapons and a team that's not scoring a bunch of points, and you gave up fifty and really should have been fifty two. They don't missed two field goal extra points and that it bothers me

more than anything, Pete. And you really literally outside of the very end when this garbage time never threatened to score, not even close, and so that that's why yesterday it was like the whole like just how the game went. Now, the fifties and ten was embarrassing. It was probably my worst game as a pro. I mean it was awful. Yeah it was because Randall got you a couple of times of that game. Yeah, no, it was. I played.

I played poorly. It's one of the most frustrating things of my career because and I said this war, I allowed the third string quarterback being in there and us being beat up impact the game for me, Like it bothered me. And that's that's Yeah, fifty attend You're right, that's probably more embarrassing the fifty at ten for you because the third stree quarterback nothing rights up there though they took a knee of the third quarter. Joney. Yeah, but I played well that game, So there he is there,

and there it is. So I said that half joking. That was so the embarrassing thing for that game was what you said, being the sitting on the sideline, And like, the embarrassing thing for me during the Vikings game is we couldn't do anything offensively or defensively, and we just didn't play well and we were a better team than we played, like the Vikings should have beat us pretty bad. They should have probably beatused my two touchdowns, like it

should have been that type of game. And if I would argue, if Brunelle was playing, it would have been probably one touchdown game. Um. It was one of those things that got away from this early that being said nothing. I was a rookie. We're expansion team. That's why it was not as embarrassing. It was embarrassing because they were taking a knee when the game was still like in the middle of day. But at least people wouldn't People

wouldn't believe that. Now if you told them that, I've told people that, they go, there's no way that's true. I go, it is true. The only the only time I remember that was like a college game, FRANCIONI was at A and M and they were getting smoked by Oklahoma, and oh, you started taking knees like at the third quarter. That's the only time I remember anything like that, But certainly not in the NFL, Like, come on, no, it was,

but it was. It was thirty seven nothing in the third It was thirty seven nothing in the third quarter, and then they scored and Jack and and in the Detroit scored a late touchdown to make it forty four nothing. But it was like they were felt so sorry for it was so bad. I wanted to I wish they they just kept on scoring. It'd been better. Thing kept. That's the most the most embarrassing thing is that. That's one of the most embarrassing. The Monday Night lost in

Tennessee was kind of embarrassing that one year too. Or Sunday what was that game in night game? Remember that one that was kind of embarrassing early in two Is that what it was? Yeah, I mean we got we got beat by two touchdowns. It wasn't embarrassing. What was the score late? There was is the year they being the second time day after Christmas and they it was kind of close going in you know a halftime that we now got a concussion and it was a boat race.

That's right. It was a boat race from the second half, from the second quarter to the end of the game. Yeah, that was kind of that was embarrassing because that was the year we had the number one defense in the NFL. Right, they couldn't come to the tight end, right, couldn't tackle, couldn't they couldn't tackle any George or Um quarterback Steve mcc they couldn't they couldn't tackle mcnar. It was kind of it was kind of a precursor Championship game torture. Yeah,

that was embarrassing. I said, I have been a part of the embarrassing games. Like if you play this game long enough, you've been embarrassed. I mean, unfortunately, it's no good. Um, did you watch the take? If you watched the take, I had a little bit of an issue I had to deal with that. I just got done dealing with. You're good, You're good. There needs to be a lifestyle change. And basically, but you know what time, every time, every time we go see the doctor and all of us,

what does he tell us the same thing? Quit eating quick, drinking, exercise. Yeah, but when you call, when you call your doctor because you're not you're having some issues that are non COVID related, and they take go to the emergency room, you're like what okay, and they start looking up the machines and doing tests on you. It's not the most comfortable. After I've done it before. California that one year, remember they did it to me and they told me, they told

me that was the year. You have all kinds of problems, and I'm like, what, yeah, so I just say that's why I think you can watching times so but thank you. Thankfully I am healthy enough that nothing. They ruled out all the serious stuff and now I just gotta go back and do some basic stuff. But all those that that means you're gonna be around this summer. For getting into the hall. Because you didn't make the finalists, we're happy about that. Yeah, I'm disappointed fred Taylor didn't make

it again. I don't understand that. But I really go down and Tony, everybody I talked to in every list I see, if you don't get in this year, I don't know if you're getting in, buddy, because everybody says this is your year. Will see it looks like it now. He's modest That earlier was I played my best game when we got all right, we got we lost forty nothing.

It's all about I played finding you know what. You know, I was thinking about that forty for nothing game on the way off yesterday because that's getting blown out by the Patriots. You know who I had to block in that nothing game. Let me see, ellis, Oh you played the other side, um, and I'm gonna try and remember player. Yeah it was a really good player. Yeah, good player.

Who wasn't Robert Porchet? Yeah Porche, good player. You know you know why I like I remember my I was pretty proud of my something because blocking that guy when he knows his past for a whole half of the game isn't the most fun thing to do in my life. But this is the most of the pressure came from the other side, because I know, because Brian Demarcos swung a helmet at me coming off the field because something we wrote about Luther him. Luther Ellis had a big day.

Hey guys, let's take a time out. We've got plenty ahead and we gotta come back before we go town out had the first hour ago. What I missed? What did he fire? Anybody? Anyone get like kicked out of the state of Florida. I mean anything I missed, But I I did. Look, I I went on a little rat and said I would fire ball ky. I would, But I think the people in the city of Jacksonville gone over the top with the clown emoji on shot.

Con Is football decisions have been clownish. You can say that he is far from the clown continue, especially what

he's done for the franchise in that city. I disagree when we Yeah, can we talk about that when we get back, because I went on a little um I talked about that this morning on Jeff and Dan show on My Breakfast, my Monday Morning him with damn Jeff, I want to talk about that because, um I I got some thoughts around what has happened over the last week accumulating with the clown emojs on Twitter, and let's talk about that from jus the first hour, No, it

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it's time for Keeping it Real. Presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert mun Davi. Pete, did you get your gift from Tony? No, because he didn't get his gift from Bob. Bob didn't come through. Bob sniffed this all year. We got one more week and he still hasn't set us anything. I don't know I got coming. I think we're I think we're getting the whole thing coming. Do you think so? I just got word from your

dodger you can't have yours. And that's a little too close to home right now, Pete? Yeah, what today? Hey, we're keeping it real. That's what happens here. So Tony keeping it real? You want to keep it real? Um, you mentioned breakfast with BISSELLI. It sounds like you gotta have a healthier breakfast moving forward. But um, what about all this clown stuff? Well, you know, and my guess is Peze said something similar. I get the the fans frustration, um, because at the end of the day, this is a

national football franchise. The job of this team in the organization, it exists to play football. It exists to um entertained fans.

It exists to try to win championships, and that is something that this organization has been very poor UM, I would argue the only time that it was consistent was when I played and Tom Coughlin was then coach and when we was an owner, and that was a generation ago, a couple of generations, and if you look at since Shot Khan has been the owner, because that's what we're you know, really always should be thinking about talking about right now, is it's been nine years of ten plus

lost seasons. It's been nine years of no hope of being one of the worst teams in the NFL in a league that is set up for parody, in a league that is set up to bring the bottom teams up to the least the middle and outside of the one year in which now looks like an anomally, if you just start just being completely honest and looking in the mirror and saying, like, let's call it what it is, we're arguably the worst franchise, the worst worst football organization

in the NFL. And that's hard to argue. That's a fact. Those are numbers, UM, and I think, and so I get the fans being really frustrated and really upset and wanting change and wanting something different. What I don't like is the disrespect of using the clown emoji with shot Coom. That's where I don't like I get it. I just don't like it because I think what we forget and it's hard to remember this is that shock common. Since he's been owner, has done a lot of great things.

He has stabilized the franchise. There is no longer a need for us to go out and beat the bushes to defend that our team is not leaving and going to La or some other market there is. You know, he has stabilized. Those conversations are over, those stories over, and he's done. And that is due to him and his vision and what he has done and the way he has stabilized and his just ability to come and say, we are not moving. This is our home and that's

what we're gonna do. That's good stuff. His investment in the city from an infrastructure to development standpoint, infrastructure in the stadium, infrastructure around the stadium, entertainment, what he wants to do, amazing stuff, visionary, all great stuff. The problem is, and this is why he has to fix the football side. Nobody is starting to care about that, and that's too bad.

And that's what bothers me. And that's what I see when I see the emojis, I see fans who are so frustrated they forget, and rightfully so, of all the great things he's done. And if if we don't get the football side right, because that's why we exist. That's the only reason that the only reason Tony to Selly lives in Jacksonville is because there's an NFL football team here. The only reason a lot of people have come to

jackson because it's an NFL football team. It's about wins and losses, and we have to do better there and he has to fix it, and he has to in my opinion, the question I'd be asking myself is do I have the individuals and the people on that side of the building right now who can fix it? Who can not? And it's not about picking players. I'm so tired of hearing like who were in the draft? The receiver, Lindbacker live, you know whatever, Well, the Bangs drafted receiver

and staid off. It's alignement. Maybe we should do that. That is ridiculous talk. That's not what is going to change this organization because guess what, we had the number one pick with getting the best player, a generational franchise quarterback, and it was a disaster because if you don't fix the culture, if you don't fix the football side of the building, it doesn't matter how many high picks you have,

it doesn't matter what you do. You will mess it up ultimately and the players will not flourish because the culture in the football side of the business is poor, and so he has to fix that and that is on him. With that said, I don't like the clown of mosies. I don't like the fans are planning on bringing clown suits to the game on Sunday. I think it's disrespectful. I get it, I understand it. I understand the frustration. I just hope it would wish we would

handle it a little bit different. But at the same time, it's hard for me to blame the fans because at the end of the day, winning, winning and losing is most important, and that's what they want, and we have been really poor at that. Exactly what I said, you said basically what I said. The moves of the clouds fall moves. Let's be real coaches, hiring all the draft picks, the whole deal, all the way down. It's been clownish. So I get the venom. I get the anger, but

I'm with you. I think calling him a clown and making his face a clown is absurd. So that one, I don't get it, and I don't. I don't. I don't like it, but I understand the fans and they're right to be mad. And you know what, that of the team. You can be mad, you could be angry, you can do you can do things like bring your clown stuff to the game. That's you're right that you're a fan, you should be able to pay. I'll say this, I'd rather have the outrage and the anger, the apathy,

nothing at all, that's right. I don't want apathy. And that's my fear. My fear is that that is that's that's around the corner. That's around the corner. You have a couple more years and it's around the corner. And that's why I shot asked to fix it, and he has to fix it by getting a new guy in there. You gotta get the culture changed, get a new guy in there, done over with. And I think, like I want to I want to make maybe I want to

make sure. Maybe go ahead, No, okay, maybe Balky is just gonna do some of the the question asking in those interviews, because who else could do it if he's not If Balky isn't there, let's take him out of the equation. If they're being if they're coaching interviews being done, who's asking the football questions? Shot lamping Tony, No, you gotta have somebody in there, so let him ask the questions and then after the process is done. Yeah. I

don't like that either. Gonna be honest with you. Um, I just think I don't think picking players is what's important right now. And I know people are listening to like, what do you mean we gotta right to the right players? Werena get the right players? Really do we? Because we got the best quarterback supposedly in the history of college football. He's gone backwards in my opinion, and we're a disaster. We are. We are a worst speed than we were the year before, and we got the great pigs we had.

It's not about getting the right picks. Why aren't they Why are the same franchises good every year they picked in the back half of the draft. It's about culture. It's about leadership, it's about alignment. It's about having a vision of where you're going and only people to a standards. It's about everyone rowing in the same direction. That doesn't happen right now in my opinion and from what I've heard,

and that needs to change. And and even if I was not there one day ever in my life, I could look at the analytics I'm using ours and it tells you it's broken and so you need to fix it. And I actually think I was thinking about this. I love your opinion on this speed. I actually think Sean Collen had the right structure when he had Tom Poplin is the e d P. I'm just not sure Tom was the right person at the time he brought him in, because I think Tom still wanted to be a coach.

I don't think Tom wanted to be e v P and do what the EVP had to do and set the culture and what we're doing and oversee the g M and head coach and and push them or gently direct them where they needed to go and making sure they are on the same page. I think he wanted to be in the bed of it. He wanted to be on the field. That may just go back to one of those practices because that's who he is the

coach at heart. But I actually think the structure was the right thing because if you think about where has Sean kanab I had a lot of success in Jacksonville on the business side, how was the business structure. There's one person, the president or lamping. He runs it. He reports the shoan everyone else and outside of the business reports to Mark. He makes the calls, he takes his vision, and he sets the culture. He this is where we're

going pretty dance success. I think you need the same structure, an e d P on the football side that then goes down the coach and the GM report to him and let that EVP report shot him. I agree thinks there need because right now Sean is running football because the GM in the head coach shot Sean's not hear every day well here, but here's the thing he has. He's gotta have final say what's that people, He's gotta have finals say if you hire him. So essentially the

GM would become a personnel man, which is fine. I don't mind that you need a football guy in there to run the thing. I'm with you on that, Tony. I think they need an e v P. And if you hired the EVP before this stuff all took place, then he could be the guy in the interview would I would make that's the priority, that's the priority, and then go get the rest right and stop feeling that he has to be first. Was it? Was it? Nick Sirianni, one of the last hires, and this this last coaching

sagle for the Eagles? And was it? What is it? Wasn't it one of the most criticized coaching hires after the press conference? It wasn't the hot one. They basically got everyone else after Sala and Arthur Smith and everyone else got picked. If if I got my timeline right, I'm pretty sure Donny was the last. What are the Eagles doing this? Uh? January p correcting in the postseason, Nick sans exact. Taylor Zachlor was another one that was hired,

And you want to give the number one? This is why I would if I was If Shod would asked me, which he has not, just to be cleared, I would say shot. Most important to get the guy to stop right. Don't worry about being first and missing out on the hot coach. That's a misnomer in my opinion. Don't worry about that. Get the culture right first. Get the guy who can set the tone for the culture, what the buildings about, and then you can get that because the

culture a pretty good team. Frank Right will when you take him in the head coach, I would think he's a good head coach. I do too. Frank Wright was and after afterthought, because Josh McDaniels turned them down at the after taking the job, all the other jobs are filled and the pulps were quote unquote scrambling to fill the position. I'll give you. I'll give you another example, Tony. It's great. Right. What about the number one, number one seed in the a f C in the same division.

About that culture. John Robinson, general manager close gets along Rabels the coach when he got hired and wasn't like, oh my god, they got Mike Rabel and now they're right now there's the number one seed. Look at their you know what their culture is. They're gonna hit you. Who know what Toppini and Mike Rabel is the coach of the year because what he has done without their best player for half over half the season and they're gonna be the number one seed with all the injuries

they've had. That is the most impressive impressive coaching. John i'vestein this year in the NFL, he's He'll be my vote for Coach of the Year. You can make a case from that. You make you can make it. Ala Force had you know, all his horses for the whole year, pretty much mo he has. He's playing, he has backup off he's playing with four backup offensive lineman. He hasn't starting tight and went out like in the second week of the season. He hasn't as Zadarius Smith and Jayara

Alexander on defense for almost the entire year. Wrong would you? Would you argue you? Derek Okay, let me asking this. When Derrick Henry got hurt after Week six, or maybe it was weekn whatever week it was, when he was the standard point and over a thousand yards two yards more than any other running back, what would you have said? If I said the tense times, maybe then you'd been like,

you're crazy, No, Derreck Hi. You know what I would I probably I probably would have looked at it and looked back on it and said, you know what, running backs, you get him everywhere? They running for two yards and it's New England without them. They've run on everybody since then without don't don't don't be revision yesterday. You just run. Look, he's done a really the coaching coach of the years

between him and the floor. I get it. I understand it, and I understand on what you're saying about the hot guy. Don't get the hot guy, get the right guy. All right. Let's uh. It's about the culture, it's about the standard and how you do things, and it's about the relationships on It's about everyone being a line, everyone rolling in

the same direction, everyone knowing where they're going. There's no question what the voices and who's who's what we're doing in that side of the building that we have not had that over there for a long time. That is keeping it real. Presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. I don't know if we'll top that one. Pete Wow. Putting ahead your social questions will go around

the league as well. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour, Monday afternoon, after a Jaguars lost by forty points to the New England Patriots fifty to ten. J P Shadrick with Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli. And you know what'll cheer everybody up social media questions, we put out the bat signals. Yeah, that's how it works. Peat, here's the best we've come up with today. At nine oh four and more of the Eagles offered their three late first

round picks for number one overall? Do you pull the trigger on that trade? What are there? What are their picks? Standby, I will tell you at the moment what they are. The Eagles at the moment have the pick via the Dolphins. They have the pick. This is of course with the playoff teams come in. That's via Indianapolis and they they would have the nineteenth so fo. Yeah, in an interstant you would do that. Yeah, but what are they going to go up for? Yeah? I guess before I say yes,

Jeff been real quickly. And then you tell me why you would. I'm not sure if I would. And the reason I say that I haven't done enough. But I don't know if this is a deep draft. I don't know, you know, Like for instance, I know we need received, we need speed, like how many how many first receivers are there? Um? I know we need speed on defense, Like, so what is like, where is the strength of this draft? Maybe you know that beat. I haven't done any works. I have no idea if it's a deep draft in

one area another. So depending on what the middle to the back end of the draft looked like would determine whether I would make that trade or not. But theoretically will be ones for the first overall, it'd be hard to pass up, right because if if you're at one, if you're at one, you're stuck. You're taking either Hutchinson, Thibodeaux, or Evan Neil. Basically that's what you're gonna take. You're not gonna take a receiver number one. You're just not.

There's not a I mean there's no chaser in this class, so I don't see one. So you're not gonna take a receiver one. So you gotta ask yourself, do you take the premier pass rusher or do you get three players? You get a wide receiver, and it is a pretty deep wide receiver class. There's four of them that I think will go in the first round, or at least three for sure, and so you could get one there. Then you can draft an offensive lineman there. There's a

couple of good tackles. There's a big tackle at North Carolina State, there's a big tackle at Mississippi UH State. So you can get these big tackles because there are three of them, and then you know Evan Neil will be one of them. And then there's you know, the pass rushers. There are a couple of them as well as the top two. So I do think you can get value for that if you wanted to. You can. You can also take two receivers if you want to. No,

that's right, that's right. I'm saying. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. I want to look at the draft and in JP said fifteen and then two in the twenties, they have fourteen, nineteen and twenty one at the moment, because one thing if you didn't do that trade you might be able to do is take the nineteen in one and trade back up those two pits, maybe up to ten, and get too good, really good reces and fourteen. I mean, I'm just at a mock draft that's done now.

In this mock draft, and that you would be able to get Jamison Williams and Crystal Lava and then you'd still be or you can get a or you know, an offensive tackle Charlie Cross fro Mississippi State. You could get all three of them in that scenario, which and which I think is better for you than taking one guy at the top of the draft. So yes, to answer that watched, I'm only watched a little bit of Hutchinson,

And I mean I want to watch a lot. But he was watching him against Alabama's against Georgia, sorry because Georgia. He's a good player, but he didn't love dominating to me. And I saw him in the Big Ten where he did look more dominating. So you never want to judge a player in one game. That's dangerous, um, but he didn't look like physically dominated me. Remember like like you watched Myles Garrett at THEXT saying that even when he didn't have great games, because he didn't have great games,

I can't remember he played. Somebody may have been Cam Robinson played really well, uh and when Alvan played and m but you just saw like the physical physicality of Miles Garrett. You're like, oh my gosh, this dude, it's a beast. I don't look at Hutchinson and go, oh my gosh, this guy's a physical like man child Uman, he looks what really he looked smaller than I thought, like he got up against those big Georgia tackles that like,

oh my god. Oh next question. Let's get through a couple more here and move along on social media today at Climbers Stephen, if you're hired as the Jaguars head coach, hypothetically, what area of need are you focusing on? First? The first thing? I mean, I think any I think I don't think. It's just whatever structure that shots up with those two or three individuals whoever they are needing to get their first meeting says Okay, who are we going

to be offensively? Like? What is our scheme? Like? What are we going to be? And let's let's think about this in the in the in why of we have this young, dynamic, talented quarterback and what is his skill? Said? What what do we need to build this office around

him to be success? And then based on what your philosophy is gonna be and you're gonna structure it for year around your young quarterback, then that determines kind of how you build it and where you go and where you spend your equity in free agency and in the tramp. Regardless of everything I just said, you still need speed on them both sides of the get faster, you gotta get. You gotta get better on both lines. To Tony, let's be real about that. You're the big You've preached out

all the time. They gotta get better on the offensive line. And by the way, Walker Little, you haven't watched the tape. Walker Little actually played pretty well yesterday. When I watched, I was just gonna say that watching him live, I was very happy with what I saw. But with Walker Little, and so that was promising. I would now again I was head coached for this last game, I'd say, hey, Joan Taylor, you're sitting, I'm putting Walker a Little right back.

I want to see if you do it the right tackle. I might even put in a guard. What about right tackle? Well, I know Camp. I still think Cam's a better left tackle than walk a little. At this point is I'm not saying Walker can't become better than Camp. But go to Walker over at right tackle. See how he does. Well. I agree he's got don't see what he can do? Do you have to make You gonna have to make some big decisions on that offensive line. And you know,

were you gonna spend money in free agency? Were you gonna you have the draft? Probably in the middle of the draft, you're probably have to go and find some betching guys out on the street. A lot of work to be done on the old line. Let's um go one more social media question today and this is at doo val Underscore Buckeye. The only good thing about this season is you three On Monday. I pour a scotch, sit back and enjoy the show. Even the wife leaves

me alone for two hours. Thanks guys for covering this awful team and giving us some enjoyment. My favorite, my favorite social media Twitter person of the of the year. Thank you whoever that was love that really is? That really is nice. There's not even a dig at anybody or anything. Wow, I was waiting for the punch line. There was no punch line. I was waiting for one. That's good. And he's a and he's a Buck guy, so he probably wants Garrett Wilson here. Ah, it's not

a bad option. By the way, Hey, let's come back. How better? How about the kid who's not even draft eligible? Like three yards? We talked about him Jackson Smith we talked about and he was the third receiver on that team. Yesel And by the way, by the way, this is where of not letting guys come out after their sophomore year like a kid like that, complain receiver in this league. Here's the other thing. The fourth receiver will be the first receiver taking in the draft. The Alabama for Alabama

was correct. He couldn't crack the line up there. He had to leave town and go to Tuscal loose. So let's come back. We'll go around the NFL, some score, some highlights, all that coming up. Thanks for the social media questions and some of the comments. At least, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Our final nine minutes of the program on a Monday afternoon, JP Shadrick with Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli.

Let's go around the National Football League and recap some of the games and hear some highlights from radio calls. Rams over the Ravens twenty to nineteen, Jalen Is face swiping teammates in the huddle. Now the Bills over the Falcons twenty nine to fifteen Bears beat the Giants. The Bengals over the Chiefs. Joe Burrow with another huge day, including this touchdown to boy Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN and the Bengals Radio Network. Second and goal from the five.

Burrow in the gut chase out to the right, mix into the backfield to the right of Joe Burrow. The ball on the right hatch, shotgun staff. Burrow retreats looking throws into the bat the end tone. Tyler Boyds got it. Touchdown Bengals here the back pylon. Tyler Boyd with great footwork and now he sits up in the stands and foots his both biceps as the Bengals take the lead for the first time today. Well, Pete went over five hundred last week. He Darnier did it again this week.

He's outstanding. And you know what, he knows how to navigate the pocket. There's been a lot of great pastors in this league who don't have the wonderful athletic ability that we see in some of these quarterbacks now, but they know how to navigate the pocket. He does and makes brows with with a lot of you know, bodies around his legs and He's a heck of a player. That's a good team. I still can't believe when we look back on that season, how the jack Wars let

him by dead on the road. How about that right let him ten on the road. The Raiders over the Colt's last second field goal. Daniel Carlson got the game winning kicked there. The Buccaneers over the Jets. Brady to Cyril Grayson for the go ahead score. Gene decker Off on the Buccaneers radio network. Ready to go, Brady with twenty three seconds to go, but snap a good one, Brady, look at Coxy arm those toward the ends, all receiver all but caught. Ball, touch starts to baby touch stops

Amba by bucceteers technical lead for the first time. Brason makes the catch of the end zone. Buffeteers lead top Brady, You're terrific the final um. What happens on the sideline earlier in the game, stealing all the headlines? Pete, I mean Antonio Brown, who is got some kind of has some kind of issues. Clearly quit again, it's only going to game. He wouldn't go into game, and he quit. He left. It was terrible. Um. By the way I was there in the summer. I watched him get into

an incident. He ran a go route. They didn't throw him the ball. In practice, he moped, he started getting into with the defensive backs. He pouted, he was complaining, and I told some people there, I said, this is gonna be bad for you in the end, I'm telling you, and they waved me off. Well, it was bad for him. You know what, In hindsight, they did get a super Bowl out of it. To have you ever seen that happen before, something like that, No one's ever seen anything

like it. It's I mean, I've seen crazy stuff happening on the practice field, Dad. The game, to remember, didn't Monte Davis quit with the Buffalo Bills in the middle of the game. But I don't think it was this dramatic though. Ready, here's the other thing about that game. The kid who caught the game winning touchdown pass former sprinter two D sprinter at l s U, never played football at LSU. Bounced around seven different teams and they found them. And now he's got a little bit of

juice in that passing game. You can run. You don't think the Jaguars could use a former sprinter or do that, do you. I mean, he was out there. There's that grinch laugh again. By the way, we just heard it coming. You can make those type of risky moves when you have Godwin Evans, Uh, Antonio Brown, Scotty Miller. I mean, those four guys would all be the best receiver on the Jaguars. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Hard to argue that right now for sure. Titans over the Dolphins thirty four three.

Tannahill to Jeff Swain. You might have heard of him, he was on this Jaguars team. Mike Keith on Titans Radio. I Formation for Tennessee. Tannehill has seven rushing touchdowns himself, play fank. He throws badness wide up to that Titans. Well, the Titans have won the a f C South again. They held off the Colts Pete just like we thought they would. And look kudos to uh to the like. Like Tony said, Mike Rabel has done a hell of

a job. He really has. I mean, that's that's a tough, physical football team, and you know where're gonna get every single week they show up, they play hard. They might not you know, win it all because there you know, the lack of of the downfield throws. But if they get that run game going, those downfield throws become a

lot easier. So they're dangerous. They're dangerous team people. Maybe if they beat the Texans this weekend, which they will, and they get Derrick Henry back and he's the Tennessee Titans will win the f CNB and the Super Bowl, Well lock it. I'm not. I don't lock other teams. What are you talking about? I disagree with you. I think they're the getting the way team that scares you. But they just don't have enough to get there. To think anyone who has to come to Tennessee and the

Nancy Title game. I just think that's a physical team. They played good defense, they get that run game. You already got it. You've already got him in the title games. And no matter who they play, he's already got in the title game. I like it he does, but he's not gonna lock it. He's not gonna lock it though. I mean they're not gonna mean in the second round, they're gonna play They're not gonna play the cheams. They can play New England. I think they beat in New

England with Derrick Henry. One more call to get to the Packers over the Vikings thirty seven ten the final play, Packers clinched the number one seed in the NFC. Ryan raft key on West would one. George Love will come up under center of the victory formation, drops down to a knee, and that'll do it. The Green Bay Packers beat the Minnesota Vikings thirties seven to ten. The Packers finished off at eight and oh season here at Lambeau Field, and they have the number one seed in the NFC.

The NFC's rolled to the Super Bowl will run right through Lambeau Fields, So Tony, will the Titans knockoff the Packers if the Packers can run the table. I think the Packers are the best team in football. I think nobody's going to Lambeau and beating them in the NFC Championship. I get to me, I would right now if I had to pick, as long as Derrick Henry's healthy. I think it's the Packers that Titans in the Super Bowl, and I think the Packers win quickly. Pete, what do

you think? I think it's the Packers winning it in the NFC, but I don't think the Titans will. I think it's either the Chiefs of the Bills. Monday Night Football, the last Monday Night game of the season, a renewal of the old a f C North rivalry. The Cleveland Browns have been eliminated from playoff contention, they can return the favorite arrival Pittsburgh. There's seven, seven and one. Who you got at Hinesfield tonight? Bete? I got the Steelers.

Ben Roethlisberger might be his last game. They're playing for something. By the way, if Pittsburgh wins tonight, the Steelers nation is gonna be big Jaguar fans because it's Jaguars somehow beat the Colts and the Steelers win next week. It's a big gasque. Tony, what do you think? I think the Steelers win. I think Pete as uh maybe sipped on the old bottle a little bit if he thinks I don't. I hope the Jags win. I don't see them beating the Colts. There's Pete Prisco, That's Tony Basselli,

Joe Fortunado, Brent Reewar, entire crew. That'll do it for show. Thank you for being a part of it. Thank you for watching and listening. I'm JP Shatrick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday on the Jaguars Digital Network