Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, January 10

busy program. Is always CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco coming up prior to the Jaguars, left tackle Tony Boselli has chosen to grace us with his presence tonight in studio or review. Week eighteen a Jaguars w eleven the final score. That's only the fourth time in league history that final score has happened. By the way social media question, there are plenty of those. We'll go around the league. In Week eight teena playoff pree of you all that

coming up. The Jags with a stunning went over the Colts that rocked the final week in the a f C playoff race. The Jags offense rolled early, had a long touchdown drive and opening drive touchdown for the first time since Week two for this Jags team and they were off and rolling after that. Defense had a couple of second half takeaways, the best all around game the

Jags have played all season. After the game, Trevor Lawrence on moving forward, I think I think everybody was kind of saying that in themselves, not not where was this, but just, um, it's always, I guess, mixed emotions. I would say always Today is mixed emotions of we finished the way we want to finish and you can't ever go back. And that's something I've learned, is you gotta do everything you can in the moment because you can't

go back and change it when it's done. So um, you don't have regrets, but you do have that feeling of just, man, we could have been doing this all season. It's it's disappointing, um to look back and think that, especially some of the close games we lost and then just games where we didn't play well, but just to think that, you know, that's who we are, that's what we can do. But you're not that unless you do

it weekend in a week out. So um, But honestly, more more so than that, just the confidence that this builds, you know, going forward, like that's a good that's a good football team that we just we just beat and really dominated the game, and just really proud of of our guys. That's the quarterback after the game yesterday, Pete Frisco and Tony Boselli joining us now, good afternoon and Tony,

good afternoon. I I liked his comments there because it was it was honest that you know, it felt good because if you know, they have a good taste in their mouth going forward. And I know there's gonna be a bunch of changes. We'll get into that in a little bit, but let's just talk about Trevor in that comment, because he is a big part of what is going to move forward, and so there's that good taste of saying like, Okay, we can do this, and I think it's even I can do this. Not that he ever

lacks the confidence or had. He's handled himself, you know, beautifully this year, Um through a really tough season and really some tough moments and chaos and and just dysfunction if you really want to just call it what it is, Um. But then he was also honest enough to say, but that's not who we are, because it's only who we are if we do it week in and week out. And that's the truth because that you know, don't get

fooled to think that's who this team is. Maybe it's the potential of what they can be, or what we want them to be, or what they should have been, but it's not who they are. Who they are is a thirteen and four, three and fourteen team. UM. But yesterday it was fun and it was good, and it was dominating, and they did dominate a good football team, UM. And they played it perfectly. They took away what they wanted to do, and they forced a quarterback who struggles

to win and he couldn't. And I thought it was outstanding. It was fun to watch, And the entire NFL and all the fans in this whole world should be thanking the Jacksonville Jaguars because what they did yesterday set up for the as much drama as this ever happened in the last week of the season in the NFL regular season, for that Sunday night game last night between the Chargers and the Raiders, And because if the Jaguars don't win, it's a different feeling now, that game would have still

meant something. Who goes to playoffs and who doesn't, but Pittsburgh would. It would have met all the trauma. The tie. I mean, that was awesome last night. And that doesn't happen if that football team, the Jacksville Jaguars, doesn't play the best game of the season. Pete, good afternoon to you. Um, that's something to hang their hat on. They helped the league yesterday, they did. We helped the league, Pete. The Jaguars helped the league. They helped themselves. They actually looked

like a football team on some day. I mean, they hadn't looked like that in a long time. And and the quarterback looked like the real deal. I mean that that was the best thing about it. The numbers weren't gaudy, and they still don't, you know, get the gaudy numbers. He could have had good numbers if tread ball catches the ball down the left sideline, which he should have caught. Um, but he looked like an NFL quarterback that throw he made,

rolling right over the top of the defensive back. And now Marvin Jones was that Marvin Jones I made a great catch and about in the end zone. But it's a great throw. I mean, there's only so many human beings that can do this, and he did it, and that just if anything comes out of the game, forget

about the winning because that doesn't carry over. But what does carry over is the fact that there were people making comments that he might be a bust, that there's concerned about him, that he doesn't go through his progressions fast enough and whatever. Yesterday he did all of that.

And there's a throw in the middle of the field and I gotta remember who was because I watched the take today where he is looking to his left as he opens and he kind of stays left a little bit and throws a shot into the middle of the field for about twenty yards because he held the safety. That's big black quarterback in That's what he has to do and that's what he got to yesterday, and and it was just that's taking everything else away. Yeah, they were.

It was good for the league and made drama on Sunday night, and it was good to win one that might. You know, it doesn't carry over. I don't believe that. But the young players showed up on Sunday, a lot of them and he first and foremost, Trevor Lawrence did So that's the good, good thing to take from that game. Can you imagine what the Colts plane ride home was like yesterday? Pete, Well, that's one of the major choke jobs we've seen in a long time. And I watched

the tape today, Tony. I don't know if you watch the tape, but there were guys that didn't look like they were playing that hard. Mean, there's a play where Darius Leonard is blitzing and it looks like the ball is gonna get out before he gets there. But he meets the running back in the hole and usually he's one of those guys that might try and run him over. He kind of pulled up. And where was the Forest Butner for most of that game? I mean, he did

get a pressure, a couple of pressures later on. But what were they doing that's supposed to be that's supposed to be a good defense. They were terrible. Think they did? They look flat? Do you think the pressure got to I think they're tight? I think you know. And if you watched the week before the Las Vegas Raiders game, it was similar. Uh, the Forrest Buckner didn't show up until late. He was a non factor. Um, the Raiders

really controlled that game. Um, it was closer because the Colts didn't make it running lead in the second half, but then the Raiders ultimately held on and won it um. But yeah, I think they were tight Pete. I think that opening the Jags go down and score and then they get to stop and fourth down. And I've been a part of situations, you know, when you're expected to win and you're much better than the other team, and like it's not going your way and you you're playing

for everything. They're playing nothing to lose and you have everything to lose. Like that, the pucker factor starts happening on the sidelines and you start looking around and you start pressing and you just don't you're not yourself. And that was I mean, I think that's what Carson Wentz is personally. I think he's an erratic quarterback. I think he makes poor decisions. I think he's you know, he tries to do too much. I don't think he's great

in the pocket. So, you know, I don't think that surprised me as much because I think if you can stop Jonathan Taylor and forced them to be one dimensional, they don't have great receivers, and I don't think Carson Wentz is a great quarterback. But defensively, I agree with you, Pete. It was shocking that because I have high regard for that defense, and that's a that's a Colts team who had seven Pro Bowlers, the most of the NFL, and they didn't show up yesterday. And I don't want to

just say that's why they lost. I thought the Jaguars played their best game. They were crisp, they were sharp, um, offensive line protected game Trevor time, the defense was flying around. If you would have watched the game and didn't know who was going for the playoffs and who was playing for the number one overall pick, you'd have thought to put the Jaguars have everything to play for the way they are flying around and hitting and making plays, and

that the culture just playing out the season. They get the number one overall pick. So um. I mean, we could talk about this peed, but I mean where we can do it later. The Colts have major issues. They don't They don't scare anybody down the field. The major they have major issues. This organization. Have a really good defense, have a good offense line, they have good back. Pittman's a nice receiver. They have no speed other than that

at the receiver position. I liked their tight ends. Doyle's a good tight and Alley Cocks good tight and they're good players, but they don't a quarterback. They don't have a franchise quarterback. I'm sorry, Carson Wentz. Isn't that guy? No, And but it's funny how in a span of two weeks they've gone from the team nobody wants to play

the team that's sitting at home launching two weeks. Remember, they beat New England at home one of the road and beat Arizona two primetime games, and everybody's talking about, oh the culture here here come to Coats. Watch out. Nobody's gonna want to play him. And if I'm not mistaken, there were certain people on this show that we were saying they were gonna run down the Tennessee Titans at

one point. Remember I thought that, not as much because I thought they were a good football team, better than what they finished the season at and a lot of people did. I didn't think the Titans, And this is why I think Mike Rabel should be Coach of the Year. Hundred and one different players played for this year. They had most injuries, most of anybody ever in a non strike season ever, and they had their best player out for the second half. That was out for the second

half of the season. I mean, that was the greatest coach. He's the coach of the year what he did to get the number one seed. And I didn't think they'd be able to do that peat when Derrick Henry got hurt, and I thought that the cultural closed ground because I did think they're a really well rounded team with that running an attack in that defense, they faltered down the path, down the stretch, they folded their tent. The Raiders went in there and beat him at home, and the Jaguars

beat him on the road. Here's the other thing about their colts. They don't rush the pass with that well, no, but the worst Buck is a good player. He's a really good player, but he's not a great US. No, they're not a great pass rushing He saw that in the second half against the England. Mac Jones stood there and did what he wanted to and the Raiders did what they wanted. They don't rush the pass are well enough, so think about their flaws quarterback position, pass rush, and

they don't have any speed outside. That's a problem, all of it. So now moving ahead. The Jaguars coaching search will take full headline status for the Jags moving ahead. Here. I asked a question. It didn't look like on TV that there were many clowns in the stands. Were there? Many didn't look like they were were there? Twenty I was. I was not in the stands. I was in the studio, Tony, you were out there. It was not overwhelming, Pete. So the clown movement didn't go far. I guess it's a

vocal minority. I God bless Mike the Rocket had a great tweet because he said the clown still there, the costumes off door in the national hand respectful. Yeah, I mean I just look, you know how I feel. I've said it time and again. Ball he needs to go clean it out, get him out. I mean, you see what the Bears did today. They just blew them all out,

Ryan Pace. And we see what the Vikings did today, blew them all out, get them all out, scoop them up, Ago Miamie, Miami, didn't they just they just got rid of flores. Chris Greer keeps he survives there about five different coaches. I mean, I don't get it. I don't understand it. Uh, and they kept showing him in the press box on TV. We had the sound down, but

I just don't understand clean it all out. And again I think they're still using him to for the process because I don't think you're gonna get the right guy. He makes that decision. Well do we I mean, do we want to talk about that now? We want to come back and talk about what's coming forward and the changes. Let's let's get our let's pay some bills, as they say, we'll come back into the moment. We got a tease. Tony did a tease. He's a prom pro, he's a

producer too. I like that. I'm just trying to keep us honestly. We're back with plenty ahead of course, second hour, your social media questions. We'll go around the in NFL on an exciting week eighteen. We're recapping at Jaguars win and we'll come back and look ahead to the offseason. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. It was a great play. I'm bad he asked about it. You know, it was a great play and a play that we really want um

and know that ever has hipbility to make. You know, those are plays that I've seen Russell Um you know, in my recent recent past, and as well as Matthew Stafford's seen them make those plays right where things aren't exactly perfect. And so to see Trevor make that, you know, that's one of those things that I think showed progress of where he's at um. And it was not an easy play. First. He had to you know, had had

to secure the ball. We had a free guy coming off the edge well and navigated that and then put the ball where really it wasn't in harm's way right, said that he gave Marvin an opportunity to catch it and no one else and Marvin made the play, so it was it was a big time play for him. Darryl Bevel, interim head coach for the Jags after the game, Yes, actually that was today recapping the game yesterday and welcome back.

It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was silly Pete Priscoe and his name, he actually said today he had been approached and he will have a conversation about the role moving ahead, so he should get an opportunity, didn't you know? He came in his intern head coach. It was a tough car. He was dealt a tough uh hands of hand of cards, and he played the best he could. And you know, the one thing you

can say, the guys played hard for him. And so I think you should deserve an opportunity to interview or have a discussion with Sean conn about it. Hey, all the guys that went to the game and clown suits, did they take the van back yet? Are you saying it was one clown cards game? Wow? Yeah? One fan it Wow, it was a little bit, I think to your point, Pete, and listen, I love our fans and

I've said there's people in the building. I'd rather have them passionate like that and angry and when it's good, excited, just don't be apathetic. That's what I don't want. And so I'm joking about it because you know, there was it was the biggest story in town going into it, and it was not quite um the turn out maybe that everyone thought it was gonna be and um. And so it's fun to have to though, don't It isn't hard to find clown stuff. It's a big commitment, I'll

tell you that much. It's a commitment to show the football game in the clowns. It is. Look, I'm not mocking the passion and the fans. They got mad at me last week when I said what I said, I'm not mocking it. That's good. But seriously, so Pete, we we left. I mean, I'm with him. I'm with him. I think they need a change. I've said it any time. You've been clear you think that Trent Ball should be gone. And so that goes in just where we're going. You

know what's next? Where does this organization? I mean they've interviewing number of guys and it's after season, but that's all that matters now when you're three and fourteen and you fired your coach and there's um, definitely a lot of opinions out there about the general manager and what they should be done with him. And and to be clear, Shot has not come out and said anything Trent. Trent is under contract and so if you're under contract, you expect to come to work just like the coaches are

on the contract. Came to work today. Um, And so it's not like Sean said, yes, keep it up, No,

I'm firing him. He just hasn't said anything, which is his right as the owner and and Pete, I think as I look at it, you know what is the right decision and I and I've said this on this show and I've said it on the Breakfast Basel in the morning on Mondays is in my opinion, and being around this place and knowing people in the building and being a part of this organization for the better part of twenty seven years now, I mean I came here

in I mean, I'm getting we know, we know. Remember I'm getting old, and I've been here a long time and I've been around the game of football a long time. And this the organization is, in my in my opinion, is like two different organizations. If you look at it and you look at the business side of the Jacksville Jaguars, it is world class. I would argue that it is as good as any organization and professional sports. They are first class and they do things at a exceptional level.

And then you add on the fact that it's a small market team and what they do under the leadership of of um Mark Lamping and all the leaders that he has over there, they do an outstanding job. It's world class and you've seen what they've been able to do, and Sean's been able to do as the owner, to

stabilize this franchise. And you know, I no longer or anyone else no longer has to go out there and defend this team is not moving and going to l A or going to wherever St. Louis, whatever other city they used to say, that's not a story anymore, and that's we has a Shot con. It's because what they've done on the business side and how they've stabilized this organization. Outstanding job. They've invested in the infrastructure, they've invested in

the city. Right now, by the metrics that only matters is wins and losses. It is a very poor organization when it comes to football, when it comes to UM execution on the field, when it comes to competing UM. It's a team that has double digital losses nine out of tense seasons since Shot has been owner. It's not good. It's poor. Fans are mad, people in this building are mad.

Everyone's mad. Hec the media is even mad. When does the media get passionate about anything because it's bad and it's it has to change because because it's the reason this organization exists is to play football. It's a professional football team. It's in the NFL. It's to compete, it's to win football games, and they don't do a good job of that today. And so and I think a lot of it has to do with the culture, the alignment, everyone,

you know, being on the same page, the structure. I mean, you can go down the list, and the question that I think you have to ask is do you think that the people in the building can that they currently have can fix that. It's not just about picking. It's not just about picking draft picks and all that stuff and transactions. My goodness, we have the number one overall pick.

Last year, we got a generational quarterback that we all think it is the franchise quarterback, and we went through one of the worst seasons and buy several some metrics, the worst team ever. It was not any better than last year when we were one in fifteen. They were the lowest scoring team through sixteen games in franchise history. I mean, it's bad, and so obviously just getting more high pixes and can fix it. It's bigger than that. So the question is do you have the people to

fix that? People? Huh, everything, the feeling in the building, the culture. That's what I said, the culture everything, and that's where you have to take a long, hard look at it. And right now it shot because the GM and the coach report. I mean, he's over football, and I think and my guy like, if you have to make a decision, is do I have the right people

to fix it? Because you have to fix that. I would argue you have to fix that before you have to worry about who you're gonna draft or anything else. And and you need to fix that and have an idea of what you want that to be as you go in to hire this new head coach. Is that part of these early conversations though, with some of these candidates, just to get their idea or thought or well, it depends. Are you going to have a structure where it's run by the head coach and he is overall everything. Is

there gonna be a two headed monster? The GM and the head coach are equal footing and they both report to the owner. Is it gonna be a actually like they had when here's that guy, where's that guy? They haven't they haven't mentioned that where's that guy? They haven't living in there not talking about that saying okay, yeah, no, here's the thing with Trent. Okay, if Trent's there, is he hiring a guy that can work with him for

his benefit? In other words, would he push shod away from somebody he doesn't necessarily think he can work with. So he's not necessarily hiring the right candidate. He's hiring and pushing for the Trent candidate. And that's not a good thing. That shouldn't happen. And that's why they need to get him out of there, because it's not he He shouldn't. They shouldn't be basing their higher on what Trent Bulky wants or needs. They should be based in their hire on the best football coach, the best guy

to lead that team. And if that guy says I don't want to work with him, then get him out. If that guy says, I can make him a scout, but he's not gonna be influencing my decisions, I'm gonna get another general I helped get another general manager in here. Then you make up a scout. There are ways around it.

The bottom line is Trent Balky should not be making the decision to hire the new coach, nor should he be influencing that decision to hire a new coach, because if I'm Trent Balky, human nature tells me I'm looking out for nobody. He's done in a lot in his career. You look out for number one. And if you're looking out for and and look by the way, I'm not gonna fault him on that, because that's the credo of

mine for a long time. But if you're looking out for number one, you're gonna hire somebody that you can work with rather than somebody that might be best for the organization. And that's where the problem is. Well, that's why I wouldn't hire you either, because I don't think you need someone looking at for you know, there's no there is an eye and ten. I think all the difference, Tony,

here's the difference. If I was the generman I'm joking, were general manager and I was the coach, we'd find a way to make it work, because we're smart enough to realize if you make it work, it's gonna be great for both. I agree with you, Pete, I'm joking about that somebody that you brought up a good point, though ego has brought down many an NFL team. Well we saw, I mean it didn't work in San Francisco. I mean, and listen, I have nothing against Trent Malky.

I'm just saying you have to look at history. You have to look at where you are, and you have to look at what this team and organization just went through and whether it's right or wrong. Trenton Urban were together. Well, I mean you hear these stories San Francisco Harbor and Trent bad Harbor and Tom Seula bad hardball. I mean, I mean Trenton, Tom Seula bad, Trent and chi Kelly Moron, Jip Kelly, Trent Moron went bad and Tread and Urban were tight and until the end where it was, they weren't.

And so you see a common theme in there. Well, and I think I want to take a step back to Pete and because you talk about getting there right the right head coach, but I think you before you, even as you're going down that path and find the right coach, I think you have to look at the structure of the organization. I think that's why I'm saying

you can't just have dread there. I'm not disagree with you, and and and I mean actually because I have an opinion on this, Pete and so much you hear about it. It's not just about the Jaguars. This point is, well, all these jobs are opening up, but now there's competition, you better get be first. I just don't know how much being first matters in this. It's I'd rather get it right. And now, obviously if your first, you have

your whole pick. But my fears you start to be first, you start rushing things and you're like, I gotta make a quick decision because I don't want to miss out because all these other Because here's the reality, there's only thirty two of these jobs, and these coaches will do anything and say anything to get one of these jobs because they're they're they're a gold mine and then strives to be So I'm not I'm not faulting them, by the way, I'm not saying these coaches are bad people.

I'm saying this is like human like, this is what they're striving for and these are hard to come by. And so I think you have to take a whole step back and look at it from a macro sense of like the big picture and like structure and like who we want to be and how do we want to do this and what is best um for our organization?

Gives us the best chance to win. And in this case, because you have a young franchise quarterback who I think is the future, you better be thinking about him as you're structuring this organization and who you have involved in it. And here's the other thing. You don't necessarily have to go out and find the hot coordinator from a good defense or a good team. You need a leader of men who can delegate, and maybe not even a play callers. Some of the best coaches in the league haven't been

play callers. It's Mike Thomas doesn't do anything on the sidelines plays. John Harbaugh is pretty good. He doesn't do anything. Yeah, and and so that's the kind of guy you need to find. You need to find a guy like that. But I agree with you on the structure. If you go for an E D P up top, then the general manager, then the coach all working together. And I don't see that. We haven't heard Have you heard anything any talking to that and I have not. I have

not heard anything. But that doesn't mean I mean, it's not like I mean, it's not like you there's a statement from the owners, like you know what I'm saying. No, I agree, but he has to think jaguars like, for example, the Bears are leaning on Bill Polly and to help him in the church. Ye, and I have no idea. I have no idea, and there's only one person who does. By the way, it is Aim is shot con. He

happens to be the owner of this team. And I'm sure he's talking to certain people and getting input, but ultimately this isn't be his call. And this is where I go back to Trent and we can move on after this. But you know, right now, Trent Balky is the GM, he's under contract, he is working, and he might be the GM next year and he might not be. We won't know. And maybe in Shan might just say, why am I making a statement. He's the GM, he's

under contract, We're moving forward. Maybe he'll come out and say something, maybe he'll make a change. We don't know. I just thinking, look at the big picture. Something has to drastically change because whatever we've been doing for the last ten years isn't working. It's broken, and that's just I mean, that's not being I love this place. There's I would argue, there's very few people who love it as much as I do. So I'm not being critical Shot or anybody. It's just reality. And that's what the

numbers tell you. And it's it is what it is, and and it is what it is, and what it is needs to change. So it's something else next year in the years to come. What it is is not good right now. Um, we'll come back plenty ahead on this topic. Of course, we'll touch on some of the highlights again from yesterday's win over the Colts. Second hour coming up your social media questions. We're gonna keep it real. We always do think we are keeping it real, are

we not. Oh, it's it's real, all right. Uh, and it's spectacular. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after the regular season. This is the final show season, the final time j P, Shadrick, Tony Basselli, and Pete Prisco will be together in this season. Well, maybe we'll, you know, do a one off year or

there in the off season, but I don't know. Pete's agent is tough, Pete is top, but is going to go up this year? Yeah, A lot of things before I don't want to go down that path right now, Pete, please, uh, you know we're talking about we're talking about last segment, all this stuff, right, So let's Trent Balky is the GM. He's the GM, and let's say it moves forward like that. What is the best candidate of the names that are

out there right now that would make a good fit. Yeah, And I think that's a good conversation JP, because I think we should assume for right now that train is the gym, because he is, he's under contract, and UM, transmit around football a long time. He knows personnel, He's been scouted a lot of different places, He's had success. Um. I mean if you look at this draft this year, I mean a lot of people have killed him for

it at times. But I mean I think yesterday, set aside Trevor Lawrence, UM, you know, obviously we don't know about et N. He talked today, Yeah, he talked. But whether you like picking a draft running back in the first round or not, Pete and I are in agreement here. We probably would not. But you know that's not fair to et because he might be a great place Tyson Campbell is. I mean, all it looks like it's gonna be a really good player, and he's gonna be a

good corner, and that Trent picked him. And you look at Walker Little, um shaky early, but he was also out of year. Um it was supposed to be a first rounder before he got hurt and sat out for covid um. I think you look at it. The last two weeks he progressed and you know, like, all right, this is a guy that we feel like has a chance to be a starting caliber and a good football player on this team. He played well and he played good. About the farm on him though, yet he was really

good yesterday. Yeah. Am I gonna bet the farm on him a two weeks? No? But I think he's like but he can be in your plans. Yeah, He's an NFL quality left Yeah yeah. And and I think it does make you have aversation what you do with Cam Robinson. I think right now where I sit, I probably still be leaning towards bringing him back because you have enough holes in that offensive line. Maybe one of them can move to guard. I mean, Walker Little is a big,

powerful dude. You watch him run block. I mean he's powerful, and so maybe maybe you can move him down to guard. I don't know. I mean maybe I don't know. He looked natural left tack. I know I'm not saying you're gonna move him to guard, but you know, you still don't know what you're gonna do it at the right tackle. With Joan Taylor, I mean he's yesterday he looked better too. He's in his fourth year. You know, maybe he brings him back. You know, he said plainly today, by the way,

he's not a guard. He's no, I don't think he is. I don't think he has a guard. If you look at him, if his how his body type and everything else. Um, you know, so it makes you gives you some optionality. Now you have to think about Cam Robinson when you do there. Um, but that so that was his draft pick. Cisco. I think the last two weeks. I don't know why it took him so long to get him on the field, but you know, did some stings, ball hawking running around.

You know, that look good. So, I mean it's hard to say about the uh the young defensive end outside pass rusher. I can't think of his name right now. Jordan or Smith didn't play, had a couple of plays. Yes, yeah, all is someone I have not been overly. I think he gets pushed around too much. Uh. Questions about that one. But that's a mid round draft pick. So my point

is saying, let's assume Pete the Trent staying here. If you're Trent Balky and Shot Khan and we're assuming that the two of them are doing the interviews together, what kind of head coach are you looking for? Peeper scouts the same both report the Shot a guy who's been a head coach before. Okay, of those guys, give me your list. Caldwell and Peterson probably would lead that group. Okay, what do you think about Todd Bowls? I think Todd Bowles could be good. That'd be a good choice too.

I like Todd Bowls. I had a chance with the Jet. I don't think he had a chance with the Jets, So another opportunity for him would be good. And if you've been around Todd and you have uh, Todd gets it. He's not going to play the games and the players will respect him, but respect him. He's very very smart, very very organized. Um, what would be your biggest question mark around Todd Bowls? And what would you want to ask him if you were interviewing him? Who's what kind

of often you're gonna run. Who's your coordinator? I think that's the that's the one thing that could either put him higher on the list or drop him down the list. I mean, if if you were Todd Bowls and you to get Bill O'Brien as your offensive coordinator, that would be a good parent. Yeah. I think Bill O'Brian's a good offensive coach. I really do. And I'm not so sure he's not a bad football coach. I just don't think he can have control because we saw what he

did with control and when it went awry. Here's my problem with Bill O'Brien and Trent Balky. They wouldn't they would clash. That's there. You're gonna get back to the same old, same old. They're gonna clash. I don't think that could work. Jim called Well could work with Trent Balky because he's that kind of guy. The problem is with Trent Balky take advantage of that, you know what I mean? Because Jim called Well is a really nice guy. So when Trent Balky take advantage of that, I don't

I think you have to. And Doug Peterson is interesting. I mean, he's got skims on the wall. He wanted super ball, and he'd be good for the quarterback. He's a former NFL quarterback. He'd be good for the quarterback. But I think of those guys, that's the coaches that have you know, Josh Mthdaniels isn't coming. They haven't even talked, they even put his name out there. What about what about the um the non head coaches? How would you rank the I'll just name you three guys that have

been coordinated Hackett left, which and more rank? I don't I think. Look, I'm big on Byron. I think he's gonna be a coach. I think that the whole thing of coming back to Jacksonville being the coach might be a problem. I mean, Biman had a bad experience in Jacksonville. The fans didn't like him, he didn't like it. That might be a problem. He'll be a head coach. He should be a head coach. I don't know if this is a good fit. Kelly Moore, I'm not sure he's

ready yet. We're rushing that one a little bit. And the other one, who's the third one you asked me about a hack for him? Yeah? I think Nate hack and I've talked to Rogers about Nate Hackett, and he loves him. He loves Aaron Rodgers loves Nate Hackett. Is Nate Hackett ready A and B. He had a bad experience in Jacksonville. They fired him, they made an escape,

goat fired. Yeah, so I think in the middle of eighteen when that happened, I think we're aligned on you know, kind of Todd Bowles called Well, I'd wonder about I'd wonder about Codwell staff, Like who would he be Jim calledwell being. I mean, I have the utmost respect for him, what he's done, who he is as a man, as a leader. I think he'd command respect in the locker room. I think he'd be good for the building. I'd worry.

I'd wonder about who his staff would be, Like, who's like because he's been out, he's been out a little bit, Pete right, And and here's the other thing. He's also sixty six. I mean that's he's not a kid. I mean, that's not that you can get five years out of him. But again, it's not a kid. Here's a guy that's nobody's men to day. Leslie Frazier, I'll give you another one where he Morris. I think Raheem will be much

much better than the second time around. And I think where he would be the first one to tell you that. I don't think Raheem was ready when he got it the first He just wasn't mature enough. He's matured. He's a good coach. I think he'd be a good higher Yeah. And as you look at the and I'll be quick, JP don't know we're up against it. If you look at the three guys you talked about Pete that we're not head coaches. I agree with you him more. I don't think he's ready. I do worry about left which

coming like Pete does coming back here. I really like Byron. I think when a Byron's strength would be a standing in front of the fifty three guys, I think he would command the respect. Um. I've heard good things about him. I just think like he's still he's only been a coordinator and or one guy, Bruce arians he's never been anywhere else. He's only been in that seat a few years as the real coordinator. So he's still a young coach.

I think there's some maturing. And my question would be not that whether Bryan would be will be a good head coach in this league or not? Is him maturing to becoming that person? Best to be done here in Jacksonville with the history and not just the history of his but where we are as a franchise right now. That's a lot to ask, and that the Nathaniel Hackett.

I think Nathaniel Hackett did one of the greatest coaching jobs as an offensive coordinator ever to get what he'd got out of the Jacksonville Jaguars with Blake Portless quarterback. I thought it was outstanding, and I thought he got absolutely done wrong in eighteen getting fired the way he did. My question with Dathaniel Hackett, and this is what you'd have to have long conversations. You'd have to really get comfortable as a as an owner and as a as

as an organization. Can you picture Nathaniel Hackett stand in front of the entire team and commanding the respect of the entire organization of those fifty three guys. Pete brings up a great point. If you can do it with Aaron Rodgers, that's saying something right there all by itself. So I think Davaniel, I think Nathaniel Hackett's a real, real candidate, and they're gonna interview him, and I think it's gonna be interesting to see where that goes real quick.

JP rich Besaccia is the interim coach of the Raiders. He's been around this league forever and they love him and he says and he can have a hammer man. He can be tough on his guy. He'll call him out. But he's not a play caller. He's not a good He's just an overseer and he's involved. But he didn't called the defense, and you don't call the offense. Sometimes out there you can. John Harball was one of those guys.

You can find a guy who could just lead the whole thing and not necessarily be an x as an those guy from a good offense or a good defense. That's what you have to find. And I think there's there and they haven't even gone any of that route yet. These are all been ex coaches and coordinators so far. We'll come back in a moment after order finalize the top sixteen, at least after the regular season is done. The Jaguars land at the top spoiler winn win a

winner winner and a number one overall pick. Yesterday, pretty good day at the office. Second hour coming up just a little bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back Jaguars Happy Hour. Monday. After the regular season, j P Shadrick Tony was Elly Pete Prisco the final time for campaign. Now it's onto the off season and everything that brings. Coaching search is under way and soon the

NFL Draft right around the corner. Yes, the Jaguars have the number one overall pick for the second year in a row. The top sixteen in fact finalized. Yes today Jaguars. The Lions gotta win, so they finished three thirteen and one. The Texans will pick third, Jets fourth, Giants fifth with their own picks Panthers six, Giants get, the Bears pick at seven, Falcons at eight, Broncos at nine, Jets are at number ten. There you have it in the top ten. So the New York teams picking twice in the top

ten and the Jaguars right there at the top. Again, here we go. Draft talk commences. Pete, who you pick a number one? You're the GM You know what. I went back and watched more Hutchinson tape. I'm taking Hutchinson over there, over the organ kid. Yeah, he's a better player here. Here's the thing when I like, somebody said to me, they go is Penn State tape wasn't great. So I went back and watched it. At three sacks

in the game, they chipped them and did everybody. The running backs got on them in the tight end, chipped the one every play. They ran away from him almost the entire game, and they got the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly. He's still got three sacks. He's a disruptor. He's a place hard, his hands ring. You know the guys with the hands, the boases, those guys that know how to use their hands, and they look like when they got to the NFL, they look like

pros already. He's one of those guys. He's got the great get the hands off me as he's rushed in the passer and and he's a big I think he's gonna get bigger. I don't think he's not a thick kid yet. He's watching him against Georgia, whicheverone killed him. Yeah, he got the left tackle was laying on top of him. A couple of times. I mean, I mean, the left tackle is gonna be in starting tackle on the league, by the way, just to tell you. And he wasn't He wasn't bad, he wasn't but he just didn't get

I mean, Georgia has dominated that game overall. Did you watch the Michigan State game Michigan Michigan stake. I haven't watched that one. Check that one out because he only had like three tackles. He did have a sack in the game, but they ran a ball a bunch. That was the day that the running back for State had five touchdown Mike Mike going considered with him. I've watched very little, no tape, just like watching him live so in highlights, So I'm the wrong person, Like I don't

even know who I picked right now. I've watched I haven't watched one college tape, but watching him on TV, he looks really lean, like he looked very strong big, but he's but he is strong though. That's the thing. He's lean and strong because he can bull rush guys, two big guys he can bull rush him. He's strong. I mean, that's the thing. I'm I'm the same way when I watch him on TV. I'm like, Okay, he's lean. He needs to put on about twenty pounds, but when

you watch him, he plays strong. He's a strong kid, Tony. Why do you sour on the Gorgon kid, Pete? I haven't. I haven't soured on him. I just this kid plays tough and hard every lay and he you know what I love when a guy chases down run plays from the backside. You know that tells you that he cares. I mean he I mean, I'm talking across the way. He chases him down. And I don't think the Oregon kid does that, Pete, Where do you rank the receiver's

coming out? M the kid? The kids here to see the Knights the best receiver by watching a little bit of Ohio State. But I've I've watched the number of help Pamma games. The kid could just fly. What does he run? What's he gonna run? Like? Four three? I don't think he's that. I don't think he's the burner.

He's game fast. He's game fast because he can catch it and all of a sudden he can outrun everybody Like whoa yeah, like the kid, the other kid, that's the other top receiver, the other Wilson from Ohio State. He's not a burner on the on the clock either, but they play fast. Yeah, he's the one that that's the one I would day because he's the guy. Every time he touches the ball you have to hold your breath. But you're not. You're not taking him number one overall. No,

I take I take either Hutchinsond, Thibodeau or Neil. That's my pick. If if I'm stuck at one, Neil the left. But I think Little's play the last two weeks gives me some options now, not being forced to take in a Neil. There you have it, Um, So we'll come back second hour of Jaguars Happy all right around the corner. We'll recap the game again yesterday. We'll keep it real. We haven't done that yet, Yes we have. We'll do it again for real. Coming up. Your social questions will

go around the league as well. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. I don't know. I have to look back and really think about the biggest thing I've learned. I think you're for me, um, learning how to really be resilient and tough times and to keep being the same person and to try to

keep that confidence weekend or week out. You know, it's a seven team game season, and just because you have a bad first game or a bad seventh game, you still have so many games left and you gotta you gotta come ready to play each week and regardless of you know, we obviously we didn't win a lot of games this year, but there's so many games we could have winn and we could have won, and we have enough talent, and every team has enough talent, and it's

really about execution. It's about being ready, everybody on the same page. And I think that's the biggest thing I've learned is college it's it's it's more about talent. Obviously, towards the end of the season, you look at the National Championship playoffs, all those talent is kind of equated. But here every game is pretty even. You know, any any team can win any given Sunday. And knowing that, I think that's something valuable that I've learned. Trevor Lawrence

after the game yesterday and welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday after the regular season. J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco. The Jaguars snapped an eight game losing skid yesterday eleven. The final score they scored on the opening drive hit a bunch of field goals moved the ball certainly in the first half. The Jags defense got going in the second half with a couple of takeaways, a fumble off Carson Wentz,

an interception off Wins as well. We mentioned Lawrence he had one of the best days of his rookie campaign on the final day of his rookie season. The Jaguars secured the number one overall pick even though they won Detroit one over the Packers, So the Jags are picking number one overall for the second year in a row. Coaching interviews continue. All the reports of more interviews coming up this week, and we've arrived at the off season. Tony,

you look very excited about excited. You're never excited when you go, you know, three and fourteen and have the season we did. Um much might be much more excited about if we were playing in the If we're in the playoffs right now, that I'm excited. I gotta go do playoff games. I'll be uh doing Dallas San Francisco this weekend. That would be fun. Um um it was spirodidas right, Yep, I'm not so. I'm not excited about like how this season went and that it's the off season.

That's I'm very interested and where this goes though interesting the next head coaches. I'm interested to see what Shaw decides to do. I'm interested to see how this organization evolves on the football side. Interesting thing. Are we gonna do something different or we're gonna do the same old, same old. I'm interested, curious. I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of of having these conversations every year. It feels like outside of one in the last decade plus, because

for even before Shot became owner, it was similar. It's in your point earlier. Everybody wants an answer now like today. Yeah, it's not you're not gonna get it. That's not gonna work, that's not gonna that's not how it's gonna happen. It's gonna be. You gotta be patient. Tony was right, you gotta be patient. Get the right guy, not the first guy. It's the right guy. Hey, real quick, did you you guys watched the game last night for Pete maybe the best and you always do this in like the moment,

but it was one of the best football games I've seen. Outstanding. It was outstanding. But the way that kid threw the ball around, that's what Trevor Lawrence should look like next year when need be to sling it around too fast, good receivers in the passing game he asked to he should be able to do what Herbert does. There's a lot of similarities between it to him. Long, big athletic can really rip it. He should be doing what Justin

Herbert did last night. Now, you don't want to throw the ball sixty times a game, but I'm saying in situations where you have to zing it around, he should be capable of doing what Herbert did last night. That's what he has to get to next year. And not just on him, it's building around them. Yeah. I mean he has some weapons and rehivers pretty good UM good back really good back in UM as long as we don't get the head coach who goes for it and forth in a long one. Ah. Just pet he promised

me that. I mean, what that hell was he and you know these analytics, Ki, you know what it is. And I'm gonna sound like an old fart here because I am. But they grew up playing mad with their buddies. A lot of these guys that the fans out there in the Twitter cult, so when he goes for it, it reminds of them when they were facing their friend and mad and football. What are you doing? Momentum matters in the NFL? It really does? You know? You played Tony? There's a flow with a field to a game. What

are you doing giving him a point? But you gave three points? And it could have been if here's the other thing, if the Raiders hadn't screwed up on the first play after they got that free free field position they ran, they with Mario and what the hell are you doing? But you think he was? It was next time we see only We'll give him crap about that one too. Do you think Brandon Stanley would like those three points back that he just gave the Raiders? Yeah,

he'd be in the playoffs right now. Unbelievable. I mean, I don't. I just don't. There's there's something to be said for being more aggressive maybe than what they used to be. I get it, I understand it, and analytics helped you understand that, but don't be stupid with it. Game flow. And I thought Dean Pas last week you saw demps when he said he went viral for some of the things he said, and he got crucified for it. He was right, by the way, he was right right

everything that game last night. The whole thing was fascinating. The tie on the line, like the time out the Chargers, you know, converting six fourth downs, like fourth and twenty one. I called one, then he had the third and draw. You know, I actually like the time out that Brandon Stanley called. Everyone's killing him. They were gonna run the same play, by the way, I don't know they were,

because they had different they had different personnel in the game. No, But the my point is, Pete, the Raiders were getting up to run the ball, and if they got yardage and they got a first down, they would have tried to get the field goal. If they didn't, they would hope to let the clock run out. And that's why they ran the clock below forty seconds, so that they had the optionality if they didn't get it, they could run it all the way down or force like that

word today. By the way, optionality, like the option optionality baby, Optionality is a good thing to have in life. Beat you gotta have options, you mean options? Option at a real word. That's a real word. Optionality is the world. I'm looking it up, says, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I trust this on the internet. It must be true. Uh, the quality of being available to be chosen, but not obligatory. Thank you. Optionality. It's

a real words on the internet. Though, maybe you should go back to journalism school because I just schooled you the potential for options, optionality, optionality. Come on, I don't think I've ever heard that. Well, you should listen more. But anyways, back to back to the time out. They were going to run the ball and if they didn't get anything, you're right. But he called time out because he wanted his substitute, his big package in and then

he didn't. But you know he did, he put no he You know what he did, Tony he because I went back and watched it. He put an extra defensive lineman on the field, but instead of having two linebackers, he still had his nickel package on the field, so he had a dime safety playing linebacker and that guy made a terrible play because he went the wrong way. You know who had a terrible play. The reason that run was successful. Bosa got blocked by the tight end.

Han't got him. He came in motion down the line blocked him and he cracked in between him. But I still wouldn't let him play it out. Play it out, give me a break. He called time out, but it was almost like they let him regroup in that situation, brought the blocking tight end onto the field. They weren't gonna Did you think they were ever considering throwing in

that situation? No, No, I agreed that. My point I was going back to the fact that everyone on the internet last night was saying that the that the Raiders are just gonna take a knee right there on third down, they were gonna take a knee. They were gonna run the ball again. But they if it was going to be a tie, if they but if they run the ball and they get ten yards like they did on the after the time out, they do the exact same thing and kicked the field ball. But they didn't have

the run grouping in the Raiders. They didn't have the tight end that was the blocking tight end on the field in that situation, and that's the difference. Okay, I'm not arguing that. My point is everyone on Twitter freaking out thinking they were gonna take a knee. There is not the case. They were not taking a knee. But by the way, Pete's being very nice today about the Charger's head coach. Last night on Twitter, it was like, hey, people, just like his answers, like what is going on here?

I called him a moron because it was a more on decision. It's a more on decision to go for it in your own end was on the eighteen yard line. That's a more on decision. I mean. And then what do you I mean, how could you possibly think that's a good decision. Now, the game got loose, So in a loose game like in the third the fourth quarter, maybe and do that, But at that moment, the game wasn't loose at all. They had the momentum. What was

the score at that point, seventeen? What was it? Fourteen? Ten? Right? No, when they were down it was seven. Okay, the game is not loose. You gotta play that game. You gotta conventionally pump the damn ball. Carlson at the thirty one yard, and it was my original point about the quarterback. Trevor Lawrence should be that next year. So the question becomes, how do you get him to that? The Chargers, Tony

made a good point. Echoes a damn good back. The left side in the center of their line is good. The right side is awful. And they have injuries there, but they're awful right now? Do they have a tight end that scares you? Cook's okay, No, he's a big he's a big he's a big body. Pete. That's a matchup issue. And you saw that in Keith third downs and fourth downs yesterday. But he's getting but he's getting up in the years. And okay. The wide receivers Keenan

Allen's really good. Mike Williams. Mike Williams is unrestricted free agent. Would you pay him? How much you gotta pay him? Oh, he's gonna get paid. You're gonna get him Galladay money. Probably what all they get thirteen a year? Yeah, I pay him that probably you could come to He doesn't run as well as you think he runs. No, but he's a dang good receiver. Well you're Jacksonville, you would you would, you would pay I would, I would kick the tires for sure. Pete. You have to get receivers here,

I know. Okay, so you pay Mike Williams and draft, you get one in the draft and it's a good receiver draft by the way. Yeah, I mean because if you look at um like like everyone talks about, you need that burner. Who's the burners on the Los Angeles Chargers? Keenan Allen doesn't run. No, Mike Williams isn't a burner. No, they don't have a burner. Guid is a burner, bid receiver Jacksonville. He couldn't. He couldn't remember the place that that's their burner. H Yeah, Palmer is not a burner.

They're all but they're all big guys and good route runs. Right. Hey, we'll come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real. Have we not been doing that? No, okay, we're gonna do it. We can't believe I got my case this week in the mail. You did I got to Yeah you didn't. You didn't get yours yet? I got two cases. Fucking I got left up. Yeah, I must got JPS. You must have. He's looking around like, wait a minute, I gotta read I got a red and a white. Wow, what a deal. JP's like they left me out. I

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ten ten x our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I just feel like as a now hobby, right if a training camp by bridge it though, and the next master for me is to give that doing weightlifting, Olympic weightlifting, by squash and stuff like that, having with it in the supplying because it is a list foring injury and

then it's gonna bottom with a foot. So the next step is getting back to doing those squash, get in my lags back right and uh get back to the fool speed running and hopefully uh I look forward to being a training camp and just being back to myself. That is Travis E. T N speaking with the media today, first time we've heard from him since the preseason, and

welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and Tony Boselli and it's time now for keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. Bob, I'm waiting. I like to thank Bob. Here's the question today. Yeah, I'm sure you guys are enjoying it. What's the best thing to come out of

this season for the Jaguars? It's over the first round, the first overall pick, quarterbacks, healthy quarterbacks, health that I could argue that Urban Meyer's gone. That's the best thing. I mean, I mean because it was it was chaotic here, but it was dysfunctional. Could you imagine could you imagine what what this team went through and the organization went through going into another year knowing that that's what you're facing. No, you're right, that's the best thing. That's the best thing

so to come out of this year. You found out what he was early. Yeah, you gotta realized it. He could, like you know, it was like a term sometimes in like in startup world of business, like fail fast, like figure out what doesn't work so you can make the correction instead of investing a bunch of capital that you have limited resources of, I mean limited amount of and fail fast like move on to the next thing, figure

it out, um. And I'm thankful that we figured it out quickly who he really was, and that he was a little bit of a it's fraud to pick up a word to use, because he looked a lot about accountable. He talked a lot about of accountability and family and and owning it. And I didn't see any of that from him. Um, we found out early. And I'm thankful that Shod who who took a big swing in the last offseason and and made a big statement and made statements how he felt like he got it right this

time and now everything else. And I'm thankful that shot Khan is not too proud to not to be able to admit a mistake and say, you know what, I'm not dealing with this anymore. I mean, that's good leadership, and I know that you can get on and from be getting it wrong, that's fine. Worse than getting it wrong is not admitting that it was wrong and hang on. And we've seen that in this organization in the past,

not from Shod but from others. I'll leave nameless of hanging on to decisions that end up costing this organization in the long run. But here so the fact that he made that decision so quickly, Pete, I think is really important. And if urban didn't go to Jacksonville last year, let's just say he didn't and he decided this year, I'm in play. I wanted an NFL team to hire me. They'd be fighting for him, the teams if he if he had not experienced Jacksonville and he came out of retirement,

there'll be a lot of teams fighting for him. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't think he. I don't think Sean would would be alone, is your point? No, of course not, because he fooled a bunch of people. Eat fooled people. Well, I don't think he can fool anyone any longer because I think it's pretty obvious. You know what his uh M O was. Yeah, right, when you recruit the best players, you're gonna win a lot of games at college football. You can't do that. Well, he's a great recruiter, there's

no doubt about that. I don't know how, Seriously, I do not know how if he came If I was a seventeen year old kid and that guy came into my living room, I would smell out the bs from from the minute he walked in the door. Beat beat, you are so full of it. You would be going to Ohio state like that? What are you talking about? The only way I'd be going to Ohio days they paid me more than what Alabama pay Wow, but well beating then you'd be one of the few because he's

he has sold a lot of people over his lifetime. Okay, Tony, you were recruited, would you listen to his crap? I think as an eighteen year old kid, And actually I was seventeen when I was getting recruited. I mean when I signed my letter in ten, I was seventeen years old. And if urban Meyer came to me and selling me like in his smooth talking and family and this and this is what we're gonna do tompionship rings in like championship rings, yeah, Pete, I would have fallen for it.

To USC, I did not. I was not a big recruit. I got paid. I could honestly say for Colorado USC where I can honestly say, I could honestly say, giving you know my word. I did not get any money from the University of Southern California or anyone associated with the University of Southern California, any booster, coach, anything else to go to the us UH to USC. Never got anything from them to go to that school. That means that means you short change yourself. Then everybody I wasn't.

I wasn't a big recruit. I was like, I was like the middle of the road guy fighting for a spot. Where were you other options? By the way, So I got I got asked to walk on by a couple of places. Um my five trips you know back then, you know, I think it's the same thing. You can pick five schools you took official visits to. It was you s c UH University of Colorado because I lived in Boulder. They were good national championship champions. Arizona State was a trip pizza alma mater. No, I got nothing

from them. I ended up canceling the visit though, Pete, because it was right after USC and I went on campus at USC and I'm like, I'm not going to a state. There's no chance. Um, so you didn't even go. No, I never showed up. Um Michigan State really yeah, he's LNS. Yeah, you remember that. My senior year was the year that Tony Manager came out, so it was like offensive line, big deal. And then Stanford was my last one. You would got into Stanford and he didn't get the grades

to go to. Yeah, I was gonna say, you know who recruited me out of Stanford? Pete Bill Wallace? No, uh, Denny Green was dead coach at the time. No, but you know who what what position coach actually recruited me? Came to my house home, visit and met with my parents everything. Oh, Brian Billick, he was the wide receiver coach Denny Green's staff. Wow. So then you took the money in with the USC. I never got paid anything, and trust me, none of them were paying me anything.

But when when you had recruiting visits, did no? So no head coach ever came to your house. Bill McCartney did, well, I was down the block. I'm trying to think. I think Denny Green would have. I believe Larry Smith did. He was the USC coach. Uh Perlist did not from Michigan State. I think he would have. I I um, so I took visits to my first visit in December, like early December when you start visits was Michigan State. The next visit was to UM, Colorado, and then before Christmas,

I went to UH. Early in December, I went right to USC and so like the home visit started like in like that fall and so like, it didn't end until February. And I committed before I ever went on a visit to Stanford O or Arizona State UM, I committed on my trip to USC. I walked in that place and I just I'm literally I showed up. It

took me on campus. I walked into Heritage Hall, saw the Heisman trophy, saw the history, went and met with the head coach, Larry Smith, and he says, hey, I went offer you a scholarship, and I said, coach, I'll take it. So so his so he didn't need to sell you on anything. So you didn't go there for Larry Smith, you went there for USC. I went there for USC, right, So that's what I'm saying. When Urban was first starting out like a Florida, they weren't. I mean,

they had the spurior years. But that's I just I don't know, Maybe I'm cynical, but where one family where no, you're not. You're gonna use and abuse me just like you use it of you as every other kid that comes through here for your benefit. I know what it is. I know the game. Just tell me I was gonna play for national championships? Were I gonna be given a chance to be as a starter and a contributor on a regular basis? And can you get me to the league.

That's all I want to know. Yeah, So, Pete, when I was at age, I was like, I wasn't a huge recruit and I you know, back they remember not very many teams were on TV either college footballs and so like USC, like rose Ball and like like seeing them. I just I remember like it was like them in Notre Dame. I was at all and Notre Dame said they didn't want me. Like those two schools are like

the two schools. I was like, oh my gosh, I get it because like when I first went my first year at a s U, they played USC and I remember standing. I was eight seven years old. I remember wanting to come out of the tunnel. I'm like, oh my god, that's USC. So that the Trojans and like Michigan State was a great visit. I loved it. That was my I loved East Lansing and I loved that place. But if I went to see when that When Larry Smith looked at me and says, we're offering you a scholarship,

I'm like, I'm in. I went home to the hotel. I went back to the hotel that night and I called my dad and I said, Dad, I committed to USC. He says, you did what You're supposed to go to Stanford next week. I go, Dad, I'm not going to Stanford. I'm going to US. Then you whispered in the phone. You said, yeah, you should see the envelope they see. That's not true, period, not true to your point about Urban. I didn't buy his stuff. I'm forty nine years old now,

and I've been around the block. You've been around the block. You've seen too much. That's why you never bought it this time. But I was I was a seventeen year old cynic. I didn't care. I didn't believe anybody's crap, never have except for your own right. Like I said, in the world, Hey, the people in the world are beeps, and the other one percent have to prove they're not. I mean us. At least Tony, you know, contributed a Freedom Bowl trophy and a cotton Bowl trophy to that

trophy Roman at Southern Cow yea. You know, teams were very good. My senior year we were good. We blew it. Rob Johnson got hurt. We lost the Oregon He remember Pete he played half of the Cotton Bowl and they put him in the Cotton Bowl hold he played one half. We were by the end of the By the end of the season, we were the best. I mean we had a young team besides, I mean Keishan Show had just shown up j C transfer. By the end of the year, no one wanted. I mean we beat Texas

Tech in the Cotton Ball to ten. I mean we were rolling. But yes, fourteen yeah sorry. Um. The biggest were, like my biggest regret, not regret, disappointment in college football, and one of them in football overall is we had first and goal from the three yard line, maybe maybe the four against U c l A my junior year. If we score a touchdown, we go to the Rose Bowl and we got stuffed and through a pick, got stuffed on first down, stuffed on second down, through a

pick on third down, and lost the game. Who would you have played in the Rose Bowl? Wisconsin? Oh, the Badgers? What year was that nineteen three? Was that was that Ron Dane? No, that might have been a Darryl Bubble game. May it might have been Daryl Bebble. You know who was on that ninety three team that we would have played. What was the defensive linemen we drafted at the sixth

round out of Wisconsin that year. Mike Thompson. Mike Thompson, he was on that Wisconsin team one and one Wisconsin was And yeah, they beat U. C. L A in the Rose Bowl. Who were the backs on that team? Yeah, Darryl bebl was the quarterback then team? How about that? Yeah? First in goal? Why why did they run behind you? We ran twice and then we got stuffed. Did you get blown up? No? I mean I didn't, but I didn't dominate. I was. It was my second game back

after this locating my knee cap. I missed five games that year, and I mean I I think I stalemated the guy. I mean I didn't dominate him by any means um, but we got stuff that by the way, it was Keeping it Real Presented by Woodbridge by Robert Bundavi opened up a winner today really ingred against award winning wine by Robert Mundavi. I hope you guys are enjoying it. What's in that cup? Tony? I can't. I don't want to speak to that. Were on the air, Okay,

marinate on that. We're back in a moment. Social media questions, Happy New Year, Tony, thank you. YouTube's Jaguar's Happy Hour on the jag Wars Digital Network. Welcome Back. Its Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselly the final show of the season. Pete, I know you're doing. Uh, you're doing playoff games. You're in studio. What are you doing? Thankfully? You know for me to go to playoff games and there's not really any access like it used to be.

It's it's almost defeats the purpose. That's a good point, Tony. You're you're doing the first round for sure. We knew that. I'm doing all through. I'm doing Uh. I'm in um Dallas for the wild Supercard wild It's the super wild Card weekend. You might want to get that right, wild Card Wild week. It's gonna get wild bat. You might be heading somewhere else. Plenty of places in Dallas to celebrate that. I think it's super a wild card Sorry

sorry super wild card weekend? Um, and then division Oh, I'm hoping I've requested, but I won't know until after the games this weekend. I'm hoping to go to Nashville because it's easy close. And then it looks like I will most likely be in the n f C city for the UH Conference championships, which will probably be Green Back. Okayez, I might go out in the championship game. It depends on what the restrictions are. Well, if you do come to Green Bay, pete with me. We'll hang out. I've

been there. I was there when Coughlin beat the Packers in the freezing cold game. It was the cold Goldens I've ever been in my life. Come out. You should come and we'll go get a big stake tonight before tell us, we'll tell lies are you? Are you going to the Super Bowl? Um? I'm not working in the Super Bowl this year, so I will only be at the Super Bowl if the Hall of Fame comes calling. They're gonna vote on that before the Super Bowl. That's why I just said I only go if that, let's

watch it on television. I'll be watching it at home. Yeah, I don't wanna my my days as a sideline reporter are over. So I retired from sideline. Why you don't like doing it? I don't enjoy it. They like what you like. I just don't enjoy it. It's like, but it's a long day. My back hurts. I'm like, I just don't enjoy it. And I told him this year, I'm like, I don't want to do it, So I'm not fair enough. Well, I mean, at some point you gotta get in life and do what you enjoy doing.

And that's not something you want to you'd like being in the booth. I like the booth and the championship game. You're gonna be in the booth for one of the championship games? Yeah, I have the last the five years, four years, whoever it is, six years, whatever it is? Um, who who do you worked at last weekend with either Iron or Kevin Harlan, depends where they put them. Yeah, Kurt will be in one booth. I'll be in the other booth, and Kurt will do the super Bowl. Kurt Warner.

Kurt Warner. Um, seeing that he played in several I never did, so probably we'll never call a Super Bowl game from booth because I never played in one. Well, there you have it, and you wouldn't have played in one have had they made it ninety nine either? I would so oh you know a funny story about that? Uh pea. Um My my son had COVID. One of my kids had COVID, and so he's quarantined. So he

went back and started watching old jaguarging. He's he My boys are the biggest Jaguar fans, both Andrew and Adam, my two boys, I mean love, live and die Jaguars. And my second son, Adam went back and watched old playoff games from the ninety six and old games and he'd be like calling me. I'm like, dude, I might go away. He's like, Dad, I was watching, like describing play son. I was there, and remember Pete. He went through the AMC Championship game in ninety six and he

was like distraught that we lost the game. He was, I can't believe you lost a stupid special teams play blah blah, and it was I just made me laugh, brought back sad because we didn't make it. See you, I can still see you try to chase down after the bumble, and I can still see it like it's yesterday. Yeah, And Brunell's interception was terrible because Jimmy ran the wrong route. I told on Jimmy, I told on you it was

He tried to tell me it wasn't him, it was him. Well, you know what, it's all spilt milk and you can't do anything about it. Now, what's gotta move on. That's right, We're moving on to social media questions we've got. We put out the bad signal, of course, earlier on Monday. Here's the best we come up with for the final show number one today at g MAC five six seven. After seeing Walker little improved over the last two weeks, is it enough for you to make him the starting

left tackle next year? Or would you still bring Cam Robinson back this offseason? Um noted left tackle? Would you like to answer this question? Um? I did? I answered it earlier. I I to be determined. I gotta do more work. I mean it also depends, you know, what's the franchise number. What are you doing with the rest of um the offensive line? Where the holes you gotta make decisions with Linder and um Norwell, I mean, so there's a j can I mean, there's a lot of questions.

Yet I don't think you make that in a vacuum, that decision, because you have five positions to fill um. Cam still is the best left tackle on this team right now as of this year. That doesn't mean Walk a little Cancer pass them. But if you're just looking, who had to, you know, look at all the tape for the entire year. Cam's better right now. But I don't know if Cam had a game as good as

Walker Little hat on Sunday. I haven't watched it yet, Pete, because I was he got beat he got beat inside once by Buckner on a rug play, but he got he got he got bowled by uh quit quit pay one time. That's all yeah, yeah, yeah, so. But but again, you're right, Robinson in the big picture is a better left tackle right now. But why not have both of them back? You can figure out a way to play them both somewhere. I agree, That's what I'm saying my brain.

I don't know if it's one or the other. I mean, Walker Little's coming back for sure. That's a no brainer decision, is I agree with you, Pete. Why do you have to make a decision? By the way, I noticed him walking in with the with the quarterback after practice today. So like you, he's last onto the quarterback to keep his spot on the roster. It means he's smart. He's a smart man. Stay close. He went to Stanford. What

do you want? Stay close to the franchise quarterback. And here's one thing, Pete, why couldn't you franchise Why couldn't you franchise Cam Robinson and trade him? You could, you could, depending on what else you do. You're right, you could just to protect yourself. Yeah, why would you let him walk out the door for freeze unless you're thinking you can get a cop pick back for him. Maybe you

can get a second rounder if you franchise him. The last time the Jags had a compensation pick that hasn't happened. Usually that's how it works, all right. You still have a lot of money to spend JP, a whole lot, a whole lot. And if they make some of those moves like they make changes there, then that opens up even more money. I mean, Linda and Noral, those are the big ones to watch for not being back on offensive.

And I think I don't know what he thing. I'm just saying based on injuries, based on performance, based on a lot of contracts, contracts, no money spent. I mean those are I'd be looking there. Next question social media today at britt Jack in the momentum yesterday's win carrying the next season. I know the consensus is normally no, but that win felt huge yesterday. The momentum of the wind doesn't carry over. Gonna a whole new staff, you have a whole new team. This team will look remarkably

different next year. In a lot of ways we can carry over is the confidence of the individual players and the performance they have. Because you have a good taste of your mouth, it gives you something to build on. You have good feelings moving forward, so I think that you can build on it. But building on as a team win too much turnover is gonna happen to this organization? Yeah, I don't. I don't think it carries over. I just don't.

I mean, it's for a guy like Trevor Lawrence. It probably says, oh, you know what, I know I could play this league. Now you know that. That gives me validation. But I don't think it carries over the next year. Easy enough. Next question social media at Duvall Underscore buck Eyes victory Monday Boys. If you were to rank the open coaching positions, where would the Jags rank Pete? It would rank up there. I don't know where i'd rank it, but I think you've got an owner that's willing to spend,

you have a lot of cap room. You have the first overall pick. I think we said this all last year. By the way, um it's it's it's in a state that has no staying income tax and you get a new facility and you're by the beach and the weather is good. So aside from that, what's wrong with it? And Minnesota weather staks Miami? You gotta you know, like jack there's the problem. Like Jacksonville, you inherited general manager

because Chris Careers staying the Raider. I think the Raiders are gonna keep rich pisaccia um and the Broncos job. That's where's the quarterback of all those teams? The Bears have a quarterback, the Jaguars have a quarterback, and the Raiders have a quarterback. So that makes them and to up. If you think he's good, and there's questions, you're still out there. Do you think two is good? Do you think he's a franchise quarterback, Pete, I don't I leaned

towards you. I haven't seen as much as you have. He got better, he got better, but nothing but nothing jumps off the pages like being dynamic. Tell me like one like, what is one thing he like, physical trait or quality that he has? It's just over the top and that's what worries me. I think the great ones do. Um the I think the question about where this job ranks is is how is how is the question mark of Trent Balky or right now he is? How does Trent Balky being the GM? Um? How's that play? Across

the league? There's a lot of strong opinions about Trent ball. What was that, Pete? That doesn't play well? Right? And Pete? But don't you agree? I mean, there's a lot of strong opinions about tramp, about Trent Balky around the wing. At least that's what I hear. Pete, you're more even connected than I am. I mean, asked a lot of people. But there are a lot of people questioning him being in that job, still in that job? Yes, absolutely, so

there you have it. Um, let's get let's get one more in Why not one more social why not at Lloyd are one L. Pete should be a GM, right, JP and Tony No, I like this guy. I like this guy. They didn't ask you, Pete. They asked J P JP. What's your answer? Uh? They asked me, h Nana, that's two knows you lose. It's just football, It's not that complicated. Really. I will say this about Pete Priscoe in all series and Pete and I have known each

other twenty seven years now. Yeah, and there is not a harder working I should maybe there's a harder working, but there's not a guy who studies the craft and studies film and actually really looks at it and actually makes phone calls and picks up and ask people who know more than he does about film and what they're looking at to confirm whether he is right or wrong. And so I'm not saying Pete will ever be a GM, but could Pete be a part of his staff to

help build a team. Yes, Pete knows football, he knows personnel and more than anything, he's a grinder that would work at it to study and uncover um the right type of people I mean, because he I mean, So you're right, Yeah, you're right. About the GM part of it, because I don't want to deal with them, with with somebody's uh, you know, shoot contract or or you know, did you get the building painted? Or or you know who who's are we gonna get a new support staff.

I don't want to deal with it, and I just want to deal with football players. That's all. I want to deal with, getting football players, acquiring football players, making decisions, grinding the tape watching players. No, he and he would. I mean this morning, we both happen to call the same head uh, same coach in the NFL and then at the same time. And my point is, I mean Pete does his work, and Pete he texted me all the time. He sends film to me. He says, hey,

is this right with am I looking? Am I seeing this right? About this offensive lineman? And I'll say, yeah, this is what you're looking at. And so I always you're changing your answer to yes. I don't think he could be a GM. I think he could be a part of it either because I don't want to be the GM. I don't think because the GM is more than just picking players, like be a pro personnel guy. I think he could be a part of his staff

because he knows football. He has he has strong convictions and he would do the work to go figure it out. That's why I think, hey, um, let's come back. We gotta get around the league and we're up against it, against it and do a quick around the league. We had to say goodbye for the year. We gotta get proper goodbyes short around the league. If you could talking, we might be able to care. This is Jaguars Happy

Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy our final few minutes for the final show of season JP Shattered with Tony Boselli and Pete Frisco. We will change our look around the National Football League with a look ahead to the schedules on Super wild Card Weekend. Tony, you might want to learn the name of the weekend. Okay, super wild Card Weekend. It's not Supercard Wild Wild Weekend. No, it might be a wild weekend weekend. I got confused. Yeah,

that's in the real off season. The let's start the a f C coming up. They have Saturday and Sunday schedule in the a f C. The Raiders and the Bengals Saturday for Patriots Bills Saturday at eight fifteen, and then Sunday eight fifteen the Steelers and the Chiefs. Who do you like in these think? Um? I like the Raiders. I do like the Raiders. That's I think it's a

really tough game. They've already played each other once. On paper, it looks like the Bengals should win this game because of the way Burrow and Chase and everyone else is playing. I think the Bengals are a young team, young coach, I can see them. The Raiders haven't been there either, No,

but I just like the Raiders are scrappy. Pete. You know what the Raiders remind me a little bit of is that our nineties six team, Like they had to win out to get in, Like they've been playing playoff games every week, and like they were everyone had them dead to rights at six and seven and the huh and they could rush the passer like I just like, I think the Bengals are the better team. I think they have the better receiving corps. I think they have

a better quarterback. I think they you know, but I like the Raiders. Um, I'm going Patriots in the upset. Wow, I'm not. And I'm going to Chief on the road, I'm going Chiefs. At home, I'm going Bengals, Bill's Chiefs. Although I think the Raiders game is gonna be really close. You're going all home games. You know that never happens, So that's okay. Let's go to the NFC schedule on

Super wild Card weekend. The Eagles at the Buccaneers Sunday at one o'clock, the forty Niners at the Cowboys, Tony, you'll have that game Sunday at four thirty, and the Cardinals at the Rams Monday. I'm going Buccaneers. I think that's the worst game of the weekend. I think although the Eagles can run the ball and they have some success in the second half when they played the Buccaneers earlier of the year, to make that game close, but I think the Bucks win. I don't think the blowout.

I think playoffs usually close to be close. I think it's forty Niners on the upset on the road, and I like the Rams at home. I don't. I think arizon is gonna beat him again. I think both those teams are kind of floundering. I think Arizona beats him again. I'll take by the way Tony. The Rams offensive line the other day was terrible against the terrible. I'll take I'll take the Niners, and I'll take the box you have at the schedule for Super wild Card weekend in

the NFL playoffs. This is our final show of the season. UM, it's been a pleasure doing it with you guys each week. What is this You're six? We've been doing a while now, I know that, um. I. First of all, UM, it's fun as always. I always missed the show. Love working with Pete as usual. Pete and I have been good friends for a long time and go back and forth and see a lot of things alike and a lot of things in a different view at the same time. UM. J P, good job this year putting up with our

our stuff. I was about to say another word that I can't say on the air. Fair appreciate you A good job steering the ship and keeping it making sure we're on course. Joe, good job producing Reeves in the background. We have a good team here. This is a good show and I love doing with you guys. I do too, And uh, I echo everything you just said, Tony. JP keeps up with us and puts up with our garbage, and uh. The other thing is we're allowed to say things.

I'm allowed to say things. I love that. That's the greatest thing about this show. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't. I give the Jaguars all the credit in the world because I can say what I need to say if that's what makes it fun. And one more thing, next time when we reconvene, somebody's head isn't gonna fit in that studio. I'm telling you, and I'm not talking about yours. JP with you, Oh, with you, hey, Pete, um from your from your mouth to God's ears, bat baby.

And also we have thanks to Chad Johnson for the sport this year. I took over the radio and UH and leads to this organization and during a tough year, a lot of controversy, a lot of things. To Pete's point, his leadership, guidance and allow us to have fun on the show and do what we do. Appreciate it. Chad. Let's do the show again from Canton, Ohio. That'd be fun. Pete. I will that, I will host that. I will host the show if that happens. No, you won't you, No,

I'm not. I'm not gonna host the show. In the Hall of Fame. Let you're gonna I'm not going to show, I'm gonna host all of get fired. No, I'm saying to host every right job. You're fire. I'm gonna host the show, playing everyone. Everyone will be together. Out of here. I don't want to host the show. Pete Briscoe, that's tell Sally. I'm J P. Shadrick. I'm fired. Apparently this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.