Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 6

thirty thirty seven to seven the final score. Yes, there were offensive issues again, Yes, the defense ran out of gas in the second half. We'll get to social media questions. We'll go around the National Football League. Well, the Rams out gained the Jags by a law arge margin. Yesterday. Jaguars did not get over two hundred yards of offense. They were under it by just a few yards in the game, got a ten nothing whole early, fought back with a touchdown drive. The defense held them to a

couple more field goals in the first half. It was sixteen seven at halftime and then the Rams pulled away with three straight touchdown drives in the second half and they got their victory to snap a three game losing skid, the Jags losing streak now down to four, and urban Meyer breaking it down after the game, I felt like, our guys are you know, obviously we've got a lot of talent. They were playing against there and and uh on the road and all of a sudden, your you know,

tend we drive the ball. It's ten to seven. Our defense is playing excellent past defense. We're playing an excellent field position comprimary football there. I'll find out what it was, but the average starting field position was we we had them pinned down it or most of the first half, and you felt pretty good about it, holding the field goal in it with thirteen or whatever was sixteen seven, thirteen seven at halftime, Man, we're getting the ball. That's kind of where you want to be on the road

against a good team. Let's go and move the ball. And we didn't do it. That's urban Meyer after the game yesterday, Tony Basselli in studio Pete Prisco joining us down in South Florida. Hi, Tony, Hello, um, yeah, here we go again and repeat well, and I actually I disagree with your defense ran out of gas. While they only gave up sixteen points in the first half, that's

still sixteen points. And they gave up I think it was a hundred yards of offense in the first half, which is more than the Jackson scored the had the entire game. And so but my point, I guess was they gave the team an opportunity if the offense had done anything. That's fair. That's the point. And then three straight touchdown drives to the ramps, they're just thrown it all over the right in the first half of you

would have hoped. I mean, here's I mean to me, the telling the turning point or something very telling in that game was it's seven. You pin them back, they have a bad punt. You have the ball, you know, first and ten, with four minutes left and a half at the fifty or forty forty ninety nine, you're right at midfield and you go three and out, punt them away, punt it, pin them deep. But they go right down the field and kick a field goal to make it

sixt seven. The only reason that drive stalled is because they dropped the pass, and so the defense started showing its cracks to me in that first half, and that at that last drive in overall, the biggest disappointing thing for me, and and and we talked about this, and I'm sure Pete awigh and I think you'll agree with me, is that's backed back weeks playing below average offensive lines, offensive lines who are not physical in getting pushed around,

and the team effectively running it right at you much better than they have been. And that was troublesome to me for the defense. So, I mean, and I think what happens sometimes is the offense is so bad that right, well the defense is better. Well, just because you're better than so bad, it doesn't mean you're good. Yeahs is kind. You're being kind to that offense, don't he? But you agree with one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. It is so bad. I mean, it is terrible. They

can't do anything nothing. They've taken a cannon throwing quarterback and turned him into nothing. He's a shell of himself. His mechanics have waned. He seems like his eye levels come down. They don't do anything to get open the run. Games of disaster. The offensive line, which we've been saying for weeks was going to be was decent. Now is it playing well? Because they were dominated on on Sunday too. It's a bad offense and the defense it's not awful

but good either. It's a it's a bad football team. In fact, they're the worst team in the league right now. Can you argue that they're the worst team in the league they're playing the worst football? Yes, I could say that. I think the rights I've seen I've yeah, I've watched the Lions. I mean I called their game. I've actually done two of their games. They're better. Yeah, they won yesterday. Also, yeah,

they're better now. The Texans got blown out, so they I think it's like the argument is like, who's worse the Texans of the Jags, And we're gonna find out in two weeks. Not so powerful rankings from the bottom up. I mean, that's kind of where we're at. But it's and there's so many head scratchers in this game. I mean, the longest pass of the day, thirteen yard crosser to uh Treadwell. I mean, somehow everyone becomes the better, the

best receiver. Who's not the guys we thought were gonna be the top receivers at the ben of the year. You know, first it's you know, Dan Arnold, and then it's Jamal hag Knew and he getserted. Now it's treadwells like the main target. It's just was that what was the length of that passed? It was thirteen yards? I think it was thirteen or maybe you know they ended up with on Treadwell? Was a long I'm talking about in the air, in the air passing he's talking about. Okay,

but but that twenty eight yard play? Did you know what that came out of? What a bunch? Yes, I saw it. Beat. I know where you're going with that. But it's just but nothing's easy. And I think we've been too kind to the offensive line. I mean, they're the fifth worst team as far as giving up pressure in the nflent of times. Trevor Lawrence, Josh Back, he's under pressure and he's the worst quarterback in the NFL while under pressure. That's not good either. So I'm not

taking it off, Trevor. I mean, the whole thing is broken. And then the running back situation yesterday, we're talking about that today, Well, let me let me give me my perspective on the running back. Like one. I don't understand why Urban continues to come to the presconference, says he doesn't know, or saying, you have to ask Bernie Parmarily, the running back coach. When we don't get to talk

to Burn Parmly, I'll tell you what. Let's hear what Urban had to say, okay, yesterday, and we'll hear what he had to say today about he was asked today. Also about Robinson playing in the fourth quarter. Let's start with Urban. Yesterday in Los Angeles, twenty plays in a row without a touch for Robinson, not on the field, just getting a Carlos An opportunity and um and then obviously we we failed it there as well, the ball went on the ground. Carlos also had the phone by

game to stack on the field of next drive. So I'm just wondering an today there was no if it wasn't a benching, it was just all help with Robinson. Um, you'd have to ask coach permanently. You know. That's I don't get two of all. Like I said, I don't micromanag is that you know? And I know he's been he's been dinged up, so I don't know if he's back with the tent or what's going on. But I

know there's injury involved. Parley's call or Devil's call, or putting him in or not based on injury or or even old James is unique because he has fighting injury. You know, if if someone's not producing and you set him down, that's a whole different conversation. But this is really injury based. So that's urban Meyer. Yesterday today Mike Doroco asked the question of Urban Meyer, Hey, you know, if he's banged up, why is he playing in the

fourth quarter? Down by thirty years? His answer, that's a good question. I know that. Uh there's a running back rotation to worry about his load how many carries? And they tracked that and obviously at that time him in the game, they mustn't want to get him a few more carrious Bernie did. I'm aware of it. I'm not in charge of it, but I watch it. I'll say, you know, what's our thoughts here, what's our thoughts there?

Obviously I didn't do it there. With James moving forward, is are you going to be more involved in that or especially with James romps in the instr Yeah, yea, I am, because I just cut up. Make sure you don't want the way I want it done. That's that's Urbandmire today And can I camm it now? Who wants to go first? Okay, first of all, I go back to my original statement of Urban's head coach. Now the head coach he is, the football's are everything that happens

in this building he's in charge of. And we've now heard in multiple weeks, I don't know, I don't ask Bernie palmerly like, we can't like and he said, head, you know it was? De Rock asked, you know is it was? He basically asked, is he benched for twenty plays? Not didn't get a touch? He wasn't on the field for standing on the sideline trying to go in after Yeah, he tried to go in. I pulled out and Urban said it wasn't I mean what I heard him saying, correct.

Remember on JP. Basically he's like, well, it's not the fumble, it's injury. Okay. If that's the case, then why is he playing at the end of the game If he's injured, And if he's that injured, why is he even up? And then today we heard we want to get Carlo's hyde touches Carlos High. James Robinson not healthy is better than Carlos Hide. The stats tell you that I'm not taking a shot at Carlos Hyde. It's just a fact. And yes, he fumbled, He's got to have better ball security.

But before the fumble last weekends the Falcons, he had almost like four under carries without a fumble. This is not a guy like who's fumble prone. And and if I'm not mistaken, I think Carlo's Hide has fumbled as much or more then James Robinson, and he fumbled yesterday and he went right back in like the inconsistency that it just in the message it sends and like the bigger issues, they're not very good, but this is indicative

of the issues. It just doesn't seem like there's clear communication and like a grasp of what is going on, and there's like no rhyme or reason. So I don't get it, Like you can't have it both ways, like you either sat him because you punished them for fumbling, and there's a different standard between him and Carlo's side for whatever reason. Even though James Robinson, I argue, is still your best offensive player hurt and if he's too hurt, then don't put him out there and get him healthy.

But you can kind of have it. Huh, you shouldn't. In the fourth quarter he said, no, I'm not going in. I'm not going in. No, No, I'm hurt. He shouldn't have been Pete. They never even should have put him in. Well, that's another aside from him playing. He no, no, I'm talking at the end in the fourth quarters, they shouldn't even have asked. No. It should have been the last series. They were deep in their own end with what a minute left in the game. What the hell were they

doing giving him the ball? Why I'm not No, nope, I'm not going in my hamstringsacking up or whatever is in? What's his injury? Again? Is his foot in? You don't want me in in key moments because I fumbled and you're gonna put me in at the end. It almost looked like a punishment of swords here. Let's let James run it out because why is he getting Why is he getting Pete? Why is he getting punished in carl side fumbles? He doesn't I don't understand that, insist. I

have no idea. Look, let's be honest about it. They didn't like him from the word get go. They drafted a guy to replace him. They he started this season as the running back because the other kid got hurt. Now, whether they was a winner job where I was better, he would have won the job. Then he doesn't get

any carries in the first couple of weeks. Then they realized, oh no, and they give him carries and he goes nuts for a couple of weeks, and then he gets dinged up and then he fumbles and he's in the dog house when he fumbles, and they don't like him. They don't like him for whatever reason, they don't like him. And the reality is is the kid works his butt off. He's made himself into a good player. It's unfair to him and they should never have put him back in

the game at the end of the game Sunday. That was ridiculous. He should have gone back in. He just said, no, my injuries acted up. I'm not going back in. But you know what, he's too much of a competitor to say no, and that's why he went back in the game. Well, I mean, yeah, the bigger issue Pete and j P I have and I don't know if it's the bigger issue, I guess the frustrating issue. How about that? What just frustrates me is consistent we can week out this. I

don't know, ask someone else, good question. So you can't off to assistance? Is that the policy? I don't think the assistance are available to the media, are they? I think if I don't know if there's a true policy on that, I'm gonna I've never heard any of its must be by league rule. I've never heard a assistant coach speak outside of JP speaking to him in pregame.

We have them on pregame radio. I don't know if they're made available otherwise I must say okay, But he keeps saying, asked Bernie, We'll bring Bernie down to what in the al Aska? Why did somebody say that, Hey, can you go get Bernie? Bring him down here? Ask them? I mean that's the that's the obvious. Okay, you won't answer. You don't know which you should know? Bring Bernie down here? Wells Bernie. Bernie could try and explain it away. It just sends the wrong like it sends some of the

wrong messages. I don't know. Like that's just not and like what is urban known as coming in is like like leadership, Like that's why, Like he's not an excell oh guy, that's not why you hired him. It's building the foundations and culture culture like that's what he's the overseer of all of it and that and that like like when that's what he was brought in to do. That's where he was success successful at these great programs he led. And it's sad. It's sad what happened has

happening to this team in the franchise. And I understand it, Like it's consistent. We penis consistent weekend week out. That's one, then two. I don't understand what they're doing. James Robinson, I don't get it. Like yesterday, like two weeks ago seven for sixteen games, sixteen plays, he was averaging five yards a kerry. You're there to win a game, like you're best player. You know what I do If he bumbles, I put him back in and give him the ball the next play. I want to get him going, like

I wanted to have confidence. That was golden. There's gold and then their hills. If you want to go get a story, I mean you go, if if that had happened when I was on that feat. Oh my god, Oh my gosh, it's gold. These things are they're allus go dunk, come, come on, fellas, and I like the rock. The Rock asked the question, but you gotta ask the follow up questions, why the hell don't you know? Why wouldn't you know? You're yeah, I'm gonna get more involved.

It's only week fourteen. What do you mean you're gonna get more involved? It goes back to the deep dive that this that that that, it's it's awful. It's a terrible look. The franchise is in the middle of another garbage season, and the reason about the hope of optimism that we had before the season. A lot of people thought this team was gonna be good. They stick and they don't have any hope right now. Even the quarterback who gave the franchise nothing but hope isn't playing well.

They're ruining the kids. Pete. Does that lack of hope carry into the future. Mm hmm, Well there's a remedy for it. Let's take your time out. Uh, plenty of show ahead. Well, no, I mean it's a cliffhanger. We'll come back. We're gonna come back for the thrilling conclusion of Pete's thought. Boy, what a show we have already started today, and what a show we have ahead second hour. We'll get your social media questions a little defensive talk

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Jaguar's Happy Hour. On a Monday afternoon after Week thirteen, Jaguars lost at thirty seven seven to the l A Rams J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli Man another one that was a and listen, people listening, please don't feel sorry for me, but that was a miserable trip from the standpoint. I mean, l A is not close to jacksonvill. I don't know if you know that I was a geography miner. I understand that. No longer, let's hear the trip. I want to see it here, play

it out. I want to hear how how it went for Big Big Bow on the road. No longer are we on the team charters with Flight Commercial? Now listen to the average person. I'm not complaining, but I travel a lot. I mean I'm a Thursday night game. I

mean I'm not home much. And so I get home Friday from the Thursday night game in New Orleans, stay one night in Bad, get up, fly to l A. And I'm not complaining, like if we were good because I love football, p you know this, but flying all the way to l A. Get there, you have dinner, go to Bad, wake up, call that game, Yeah, that game, that game, and then take the red eye back home last night and land back in Jacksonville at nine am this morning. I mean it's just and it's the same. Oh,

the stadium is unreal. I'll tell you what. I see. What you get from five billion and you get a nice stadium. It is pete. Have you not been there? Oh it's unreal. It is very cool, great place. The traffic getting in and out or getting out is a nightmare. Um but l A traffic is nightmare anyways. Um but I only bring that up, not for anyone to say, or you getta called football games. Yes, it's a great job Flying Commercial. I do it all the time, not a big deal. It was much easier when we could

find the team charter, COVID protocols, you can. My whole point is, I'm getting tired, and I just called the games of watching how we play. Imagine if you're a player putting the work effort practice and it's the same result every week. And I heard Leon talking about the flight. What's the flight when you get whacked on the West coast? They have a five hour flight at home, Pete. Everyone

handles it differently. There's guys who I'm not saying they did it in Jacksonville, but I'll stay back when I played, guys that might have had a few, you know, bottles of many bottles and the many bottles and the way home when they, you know, are feeling good when they get home. There's another group that are playing cards and just trying to escape. And there's another group that's sleeping, and then there's another group that just sitting there stewing

and how miserable life is about losing. There's just different groups. Everyone handles it differently. I'm not saying there's a right way to do it a wrong way, um, but my I bring up that story not for That's why preface it. Don't feel sorry for me. I have a great life. We don't don't worry, we don't know. But my point

is saying that is what I worry about. If I'm feeling like that, Like talking to Frank and the broadcast after the game, it's just like it's just like another week, Like come on, because you want to live a week two you would have been okay, you'd been like, okay, yeah, we got it's a week thirty and bring that whole story up. Is because Pete, you know this. You've been

around a long time. Jp you've been around long enough now too, like that wears on guys and all of a sudden, now you see guys start looking at the end of the year and watching the calendar and like, uh, you know, you know it just it impacts how you approach your job. And and I'm not talking anyone's their pros, but I don't care how discipline, how much are pro

you are. It's hard and it's a grind. Remember we lost seven straight Pete down that stretch, and we lost some close games too, so it was like we got blown out by the short right. That was the most

embarrassing one of the most more embarrassing days of my life. Um, but we were losing close games and I would dread coming to the facility, just dread it because you knew that it was just gonna be a grind, and you knew the head coach is gonna be grinding you just the death and it and the NFL is a long season no matter what, because it's a physical and mental grind to get through the season. When you're winning, it goes pretty quick, but it's still hard. When you're losing.

It's like dog years. It's like everyone feels like seven and you're just like, uh, like, when do we play? The cold was compounded by the fact you had to go face yea, oh god, I can't even And in this year of all years, I mean this Sunday's December twelve. There's four more games left after this week seven. What a bad year to have seventeen games and nine is the last game? Like what are we doing? Oh my god? Just look like I said, you guys asked me, how

do you remedy it? And here's the answer to that question. You're not but you're not gonna fire Urban and everyone in the building. You just hired them. You can't. I mean, come on, you don't really think Sean's gonna fire urban. There might be a you could maybe you can work something out with him. Well that's firing him. Well, yeah, you would play him all the money, so you would you would recommend at this point starting over, I would

consider I would consider it. And if if he's not going, then he's got to get rid of about five or six sevent eight coaches good bye, So that would leave only leave him with twenty. But how can the biggest step in the league not get anybody any better? He has? Anybody got better? Not the answers, No, Pete, I mean there's somebody had to get you know better, had hurt Tyson, Campbell got better. I think Ben Bart has gotten better. Until yesterday he was dinged up up. Yesterday he played better.

Nor Well was mad. He was bad, both bad. They were both bad, and quite frankly, nobody was any good. It was thirty. Here's the thing I was thinking about that today, Pete, watching the tape, I'm like, okay, who played well on offense? Nobody maybe tread well A couple of nice catches, yeah, okay, but nobody, And then let's go to the defense. Who played well on defense leading tackler's role in the secondary. That's bad. Campbell was playing okay before he got hurt. Okay, who else he's got better?

He's one guy that's gotten better. Yeah, you know who was the Jaguars Radio Network player of the game after the game and the post game logan Cook. That's not good, not good, nothing like it in Cooper cup on Wingered that's not that's doesn't go well. And here's the other thing. As we look at the tackles, and there's one name that is missing there that was absent yesterday. And he's absent on the statue that we're looking at right now. Griffin. No,

he was on the field, but he was absent. Josh Allen, Josh Allen. Yeah. Worth, I haven't. I didn't watch the defensive tape at the Witworth Dominator. Here's the thing, Pete, have you watched Witworth this year yet? Yeah? He had played, he had played up their expectations for sure. He is forty years old. He looks forty and I like Andrew Worth and he's had a great career. He's forty this coming Sunday, Okay, he'll be forty. Um, he can't bend his knees, he can't move, and I've watched teams like

the Packers just physically just got after him. And I thought going into this game was like, Okay, Josh has been playing well, Like get a good rush plan, speed him, go speed to ball, like you're gonna give him fits. And it was the worst rush plan I've seen and he did nothing, and Wit was blocking him fairly easily. And w hasn't blocked many people fairly easy this year. This is not Andrew Whitworth five years ago when he's in his prime. Josh Allen finished with two assists. That's it. Yeah,

he's your game last year last week it wasn't great either. Yeah, but Pete, he's one of your best players. You have to dominate a forty year old left tackle. I agree, Hey, he I think it was he had the little run where he got hot and then what was last week's numbers for him? He wasn't that great either, five? Um, right, Yeah, it tailed off a little bit. Last week. He had three tackles that was at uh, two solos, one assist.

The week before that he had ten tackles and a tackle for loss and a four stumble for the last two weeks he was building to maybe even being, you know, a potential Pro Bowl player. Gone off the rails. And you know, here's the other thing, Tony. You watched it the guys they signed in free agency and then then, Don't get me wrong, free agency never cures all your ills.

It just doesn't. If we went through all those guys that they signed in free agency and put a grade next to where they're at, what would that grade be for each player? And what would the great overall grade be on free agency? You're the guy who likes the great people think about it because remember, leading into the off season, got all the draft picks, got all the money they can go get guys fix things? What are

they fixed? So we were talking about this in the booth yesterday, and JP and I talked about in the Brake beat. Is this team worse than last year's team? Well, that's a good question. They're better. Don't you think they're better on the defensive line? Okay, I'm saying overall, and I'm gonna when we come back, I'm just gonna you're missing my point. When we come back, I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read some numbers for repete and you tell me what you think about has this I'll say differently,

forget about better or worse? Has this team progressed? Are they better than they were last year? And then we will also grade the free agents at this point, at this through this point, we've got a lot to get too. Wouldn't we return if I love it? The first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour rolling along. Coming up. In the second hour, we'll get your social media questions. We'll keep it real as we always do it, and we'll go

around the National Football League. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Hole Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by t I A a bank turned Potential into Progress, and by Public where shopping gets the pleasure. Yeah. I mean that was a really good team. Um didn't We didn't play well, We didn't help ourselves out. But I mean, end of the day, you do have to look at that team and it's

a good team you're playing against. But you know, the way we came out at the beginning of the game, it was ten seven, felt good even going in the half time I think it was sixteen seven. Um, it felt felt good about where were where we were at and then second half we just were very unproductive. Stagny didn't move the ball and then just didn't play complimentary. But um, yeah, it's tough day. Obviously, when you get beat thirty seven to seven, it's not a good day.

And it was want to move past this one and go get to go get the next one. It's Trevor Lawrence of course, Jaguars quarterback after the game at SOFI Stadium in Inglewood, California, yesterday and Week thirteen, thirty seven seven the final Rams over the Jaguars and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick with Tony Boselli and studio this week and to see it in person.

And Pete Prisco down in South Florida. At some point we'll get Pete back in studio with us, but you know, he's he's a South Florida guy, so it's hard to kind of get him in the same place. So, uh, you know, since the bye week Week seven by the Jaguars are now averaging since the bye just under eleven points per game only the season. Not good, coach, it's

not good. Well, the good news is we're gonna we play the Texans in uh two weeks were just a little lesson two weeks and they're only averaging thirt point seven in the game, so there's hope. Wow, and you get the Jacks coming up too, so that's well, let me see what I locked that one already? The Jets are averaging eight teen point one, so we got a little bit. We gotta make up a little bit there. He wishes he could take that one back. They're gonna sweep sweep the a f C. East. That looks terrible.

That's a bad one, all right. How did they by the way, how did they say the same thing? So people we left the last break is the question was asked, is this has this team progressed? Is it better than they were last year? And this is after remember last year they didn't spend any money on the cap. They cleaned the cap up for this year they got the first overall picked new head coach and spend a bunch of money in free agency. Is this team better than

they were last year? Okay, I will argue no, offensively, they were better last year. Let me go through these numbers. Opening day when how many times does this team scored twenty seven points this year. No not. We two lost thirty three thirty versus the Titans. We have not scored thirty. We haven't scored thirty since that game. I think we have not. Um. Then we got blown out by the Dolphins.

Bengals thirty three. Five scored twenty five points, blown out by the Texans, blown out by the Lions, Chargers thirty nine Texans again five like your Packers twenty in Lambeau with the ball in your hands at the end of the game to win it. Steelers blow you out. Browns playoff team five Vikings. I believe they're playoff team to four an' though they weren't last year. And you know, and then they got pretty much blown out the last four weeks pretty bad. Um, they're in games, scoring point

is their score points in games. And this is with three different quarterbacks, one of them being Jake lu Mike Glennon and gardnermentship with the three guys, and I think, and I'm only bringing this up, Pete because it goes to what you said earlier, and I asked the question, is their hope for the future, because there was a lot of hope coming in this year because how excited was everyone when we got the first overall pick at

the end of the last season. Then they were pumped about Urban Meyer, yes and all what he was gonna bring and the one for two bad And if you look at what they've done this year, they've erode in some of that. I mean listening to talk radio, which I know is always dangerous, but just around town talking to people, the questions I get, you know, has Hope left the building? And how do you get it back in?

Because if you're sitting back ten out of eleven years with is it ten out of the eleven years and templus losses? And you look with like the thought like some people thought we were gonna be can playoff team this year because they were so excited about Urban and Trevor. I never did. I thought it was early. I never did. I said early six eight games. I remember a double digit win conversation that was That was tongue in cheek.

You know it as well, before before the season, before preseason started, before camps started, I said, I think they get six eight wins after camp in preseason, we're on the show and we both said four to six. I was lower than you I said three to five. I think, okay, three four or six. And I remember telling people like, what you need to measure this year by is does the young team get better? Does the young quarterback get better? Like that was most important in my concern is this

team is getting worse. It's not getting better. The quarterbacks getting and the quarterbacks getting worse. Right, And that's what worries you because you look back, where's the progress? And I think that goes back telling me, if you're the owner of the team, don't you look at all that and say, hey, wait a second, do I keep this thing going? Do I keep it going? What I mean,

how do you keep how do you keep it? If you know you've got a coach it doesn't even know what is what if that's not in the game, and you keep it going. I mean it just makes no say, look, when you guys stunk for parts of you were building to something. If the next year things didn't turn around. Tom would have been on the hot seat in year three, no question he would have been. But he turned it around. He might not have made it a year three. I had have made it a year three. But where there's

no there's no okay. The team stakes. But more than that, there's no hope because the coach doesn't seem to have hope or direction. That's the can, sir, And that's why. Look, last year you had the first overall pick, you had all the draft picks, you had all the money. They got worse. That has to fall onto somebody. Yeah, that's I mean, that's my point. I mean, last year it was on purpose not to spend money, clean the cap out, get ready, like like, build the foundation. They did it.

You know, you could argue it worked. This year they spent money, got first overall pick, and where's the progress? And that wasn't about money? Would you fire him? Okay, let me ask you that if there wasn't a big money hit to get rid of them, would they get rid of them? I don't think so. For what reason though, um yourself by by signing, by hiring him in the first place? I think, I mean, I think stability is that? Is that a stable team? Right now? I'm just telling

you that, Pete. I'm not listen. I'm not arguing whether it's there was the right choice, wrong choice, or the right choice to fire or not fire. That's not my point. You asked me from an owner's perspective. I think as an owner, you have to look at the overall franchise and in this what message are you sending to the organization also to future coaches that you hire. And so I think it's like at some level, I mean, I'm sure Sean would like some stability in the organization and

that I'm sure he's frustrated. But I also think he's probably like, Okay, this dude want a bunch of college one, a bunch of nations. He's gonna figure it out. I think that's what he's probably thinking. In my opinion, I don't know this, and based on that, I don't think you fire them after twelve games. Look, there's a lot of people out there that blame Dave Caldwell for the roster, and I get it. There's there's some bad picks made,

there's no question. But if you evaluate we I talked about the free agents and the draft picks in this question, if you evaluate this first group, they're not very good. Let me think about it. They're marquee offensive signing was who Trevor Lawrence? No, what the draft pick? I'm talking about? Free agent signing, Marvin Dravin Jones that's a terrible signing. He's been a great, a bust with a capital B, and that's because she signed an old, aging receiver. They

got Man Hurts too. What's he done? Yeah? I mean they said he was gonna be the best, best blocking tight end and he's not even the best. He's not even a better blocking tight end. And the other guy on his own team right now. So that's a bust move as well. So Jack Griffin, good signing or bad signing a great Roy Robertson Harris good signing, your bad sign he's put better lately. Good signing your band signing. That's not I'm gonna say incomplete this point. I'll give

it a C plus just about average. Ray Shawn Jagubs, I ain't good. He's not here. What happened in philm I forgot about him? He was here, he was here. Carlos Carlos Hide, come on, you know all right, we need to take your time out. Was that a good signing? Pete? I get your point. Your point is made. Rudy Ford good signing. He's been that's been at Jamal Agnew ended

up being a good signing. Rudy Ford might be one of your best free agent signings if you put in what you paid for him and all everything right, let's take your time out. We'll come back plenty of this ahead in the final moments of the opening hour. Then we'll get to the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Go through the top and two of the day. What are you laughing at? Top? Top new? Oh the Jags lost yesterday. I don't think so, unless you want to

hear it again. I just want to hear pas response again. We might just do it for that, So back with more in just a moment. Veterans, choose v A for the benefits you've earned, Visit choose dot v A dot com. And it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. And the inaugural Jacksonville Barbecue Festival is bringing the best barbecue in the nation to Florida next weekend December ten

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The Tennessee Titans lead the way in the division with a record of eight and four. Now. They were off this week Indie at seven and six, trying to close the gap they got when Houston they shut out Houston. Texans are not to intend. The Texans are officially eliminated from the postseason after yesterday. The Jaguars could be eliminated tonight. If the Bills win or tie, they would be officially. We can't talk about draft until I know, so we're we got you know, got us wait until that officially

have to go. Patriots, come on, Patriot back jokes. We're still in it. The Patriots win, were still in mathematically they can make they can make a run. They can make a run. They could. They can win games six three the rest of the way and make a run. Only takes one point. Pete only takes one point more than the other team. What about power rankings? How are you doing the power ranking? Ah? Brutal, that's how the

standings are. Rankings are Indy is Indy. They have a chance to do this, well, there are three games back with five to go. Well the good luck, I don't think so, even all those guys out in Tennessee. So let's okay, let's just play this out. Let's say they run the table. Let's look at their schedules. Tennessee has it has won this week to get the nine? Okay, and don't they play Houston again too? I got you.

So here's Tennessee coming up by week this week, Jaguars in Week fourteen at the Steelers, home against the Niners, home against the Dolphins at the Texans. Yeah, so let's just say and I let's say they beat us in the Texans, but ten wins. And so if they get ten wins, that means the Colts have to run the table and get to a lot. I mean, so they have the Colts. The only chance the Colts have realistically is running the table. And here's the Colts schedule the

rest of the way. Bye week this week coming up home against the Patriots at the Cardinals, home against the Raiders at the Jaguars. They're not running the table tough schedule, so no, they have no Tony's proclamation about four weeks ago that the Colts are going to run down the No. I said they had a chance. They didn't lock it. There's no locks. No, you didn't. You didn't lock it. But you said they would catch him. I said they had a chance. JP. Everybody's got a chance. I guess right.

I mean I think he locked it JP. I don't know if he locked it, but he said they would do it. Yeah, he said they'd lock him down. He did. Well, you're the culture gonna make the playoffs. So they're gonna be tenant seven. They'll be in the playoffs. Yeah, I think they will too. Well. Read that schedule again though, they got new Colts are by this week home against the Patriots at the Cardinals home against the Raiders at the Jaguars. Yeah, they go two and two, at least

nine and nine? Nine, and does nine get him in? Probably tight? Hm. So you have that, you have the Steelers out there. That tie kind of messes everything up. Yes, that's right. Yeah, and uh, and then he got a lot of teams like the Bengals. The Chargers are all right in the mix there too. What about Miami. Miami won five in a row there, five and seven, and their schedule is pretty easy. The rest of their waife

on that. They got one with the Patriots, but they're five and seven, they're six and seven, six and seven, six and seven, I mean, won five in a row, six and seven. Right now, it's the wild cards. Would be Buffalo seven and four, Chargers seven and five, Cincinnati seven and five. Then he got Pittsburgh six five and one, Indie seven and six, Vegas, Cleveland and Denver all six and six, and then Miami six and seven. It's a

lot of teams all bunched up together there. Miami's like somebody I read where Miami's the first team since the forties or something to lose seventh straight and then win five straight. No, they lost six day, lost six straight and then straight. Wow, well we are closing down the opening hour of Jaguar. You're right, Peters seven straight, I'm sorry, well straight, Yeah, they were one in they open, they won their opener, and they were one in seven and

then won five straight. One hour down, one hour ago you're gonna be all wake through this, Tony. I got an hour and a half sleep last night on that plane. It was not good sleep, better than zero first class. You were at first class, right, yeah, but it was not like a lay down first class. I got an hour and a half and I woke up from that hour and a half like my shoulder hurts so bad. You're not feeling sorry for me, right, Nope, I'm not. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. My wife does it

just development on the Jaguars Digital Network. I wish I had all the answers and I'd give them to you. I don't know the answers other than I know this that you're gonna keep swinging and keep working together. Is there a confidence issue? Anytime you're you're not successful with something, that's something I've gotta fight through. Confidence is a result of success, and right now we're struggling with time. That's

head coach Urban Meyer, of course. After the game in Los Angeles yesterday and welcome back, it's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco, the Rams over the Jaguars thirty seven seven Jacks found themselves in an early hole again. The opening kickoff returned sixty five yards set up an early field goal for the Rams. Then on the second offensive play for the Jags, James Robinson fumbled. Three plays later, it's ten nothing. Rams.

Jacks fought back though the third team play touchdown drive and got within three points. The offense was shut down after that point. Was it a benching or was it health questions surrounding James Robinson being held out of the

game for three straight drives After that early fumble. The defense held the Rams to a couple more first half field goals and then ran out of gas in the second half, and the Rams threw it all over the yard and scored touchdowns on their first three possessions after halftime. The Jaguars are now two and ten and it's onto Tennessee in Week four. Team a place the Jaguars haven't won since the first year of Obama's second term, has been that literally November was the last two Wars win

in Nashville. That is absolutely amazing to me. There was a Will Blackman game, the Quad infecta game, Oh yeah, I think that put him up by nine, and then Tennessee scored late and they ended up winning in that game. The Thursday night game. It was not a Thursday night sounded like a Thursday night game. It wasn't like your team's exactly, we're good going up there either. Well let's think through that. So um there were the Houston Oilers. So um we won there at Houston. Yeah, nine, six

we beat them in Houston. In at Vanderbilt Houston again, we played the last game in the Astrodome. Seven we beat them in Memphis. We beat them at Vanderbilt. Nine they beat us. I could do through the whole thing. I was thinking when I played two thousand they beat us. There are two thousand one they beat us there. So you didn't your years, your first two years playing in in Nashville, you didn't beat him. And there was in the stadium never I was never when I played, we

never beat him in the state. This day in there, now we beat him in Nashville and Vanderbilt. I remember the no you beat him in Memphis, in Vanderbilt, Memphis

and Vanderbilt both times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he started losing to him in ninety nine obviously, and then two thousand oh one, oh two oh three, these are all their games in Nashville, and then there was winds and oh four oh five up there lost in OH six winning, OH seven loss, oh eight oh nine win and ten loss loss wins and record in their new stadium in Nashville. Would they start ninety nine? Was that the first year?

The first year that stadium. Let's see five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, six, seventeen wins for tennessee uh one, two, three, four, five wins for the Jaguars. Do we do we count? Do you count the ninety championship game that they claim that as their own stadium. There's that evil grinch laugh again. It's not very nice, not nice at all. So here

we are. I mean, it's to a ten, the tenth double digit losing season in the last eleven years, the one that didn't happened the Jags went to the SC championship game. I don't even know what to say, did not. I mean, it's what it is. It's not good, it's not good, and and there's no help coming this year. He said that for the last month. That's why I was just saying that that's the hard part. Because it's the seventeen game season. You have five more games to go,

and it's like, Okay, here's our choices. Lose every game for the rest of the season, or the guys we have out there, players and coaches do a better job. I mean, there's no other option. I mean, you gotta lose them all. If they lose them all, they could have the number one overall pick, and you know what that would me. They'd be the fifth team in history to have pick number one overall back to back. Who was the last thing to depeat? Can you name it?

Can Brown? The Browns? Who was the team that did it before that? Baker? It was Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett. Uh before that? One time before that did the Lions do I'll tell you, Oh it was the Browns said it twice, That's right, they did, Kim Tim Colson, Courton Brown and then the year then before that, the Bengals did it. People forget the Bengals did it? Remember who they did? Big Daddy Wilkinson and Kajohnah Carter. Yeah, they didn't have the first overall pick. Was they didn't earn

the first overall pick with John Carter. They have the fifth pick and traded with the Panthers different but they drafted one the first you're talking about the one who earned it. Yeah, but they picked back to back and then and then before that, the Bucks did it twice, and the Cardinals did it the Chicago Cardinal. Yeah. I think about that. The history of the weak. That's it. Well,

I mean, I mean think about this. I mean, if the Lions are gonna lose, I mean the Lions will win another game, correct, so, well the Texans it'll be. So that's the number one pickfole in a couple of weeks. Well, yeah, the act didn't come down to it. Well, I mean, unless we meet the beat the Jets, beat the Titans or the Jets. But if the if the jag Wards beat the beat the Texans and then beat the Jets, the Jets then beat the Jets. Well that's four weeks.

They're not gonna be okay if they lose to If they beat the Texans and lose to I mean loose to the Texans, to beat the Jets and the Texans, yeah, that'd be close. Do you want the number one overall pick again? No, I want to be in the playoffs. I don't want to be the number one pick. But you're not. You're out of the playoffs. It's done. We're

not mathematics. We we're not we're not allowed to talk about the kick off after eight o'clock tonight, Okay, by night to night you might be out of the playoffs. Do you want the number one overall pick? Again? Are you? We? Would you rather have the number one overall pick A deal with the dealing doing it two years in a row or not? I'd want the number one overall pick. Yeah, if you're gonna be bad, you might as get the best pick you can. But who you? Who are you taking?

You almost spit? There'm not asking you've you've made it, walk right into it as rush from Oregon? Do you take the pass rusher from Michigan? Or you take trade back and maybe take one of the wide receivers? What do you do? How many picks do I get? If I trade back to let's say six or seven, you get an extra two and maybe something else like a three or a couple of three something I know you would.

I did say see this that which is interesting, Like the Jets and the Giants have back to back picks at the moment, and the top ten both of them have three picks and Eagles will have three for a trout picks, right, I might take that Hutchinson kid number one. Yeah, but Tony and I know we don't want to talk draft all the way. But here's why I like him a lot. He's really good. But he's so technically sound that you wonder when he gets to the NFL, is he going to be that you know what I mean.

It's like the big kid in high school that dominated, but when he got to college and he met everybody that was the same as him, you know what I mean, Like there's always guys with the higher athletic ability upside. But I've heard he's a great athlete, Pete. I heard he has like a thirty six inch vertical four six athlete.

He reminds me a J. J. Watt. He does to sixty. Remember, but remember Bosa coming out of a house state had great technique and that was the books, Like, is he just a technician because he had such great hand use? Translated pretty good? Yeah, I look as much as Jamis and Williams would look great. If you can get a pass rusher that can dominate, you gotta take the pass rush, oh, without a doubt, quarterback, But then you gotta work back in and get a receiver. But you know this as

well as I do. You get a quarterback, you protect the quarterback, you affect the quarterback. I agree, I agree, well, and that makes a question about this offensive line. Is Cam Robinson and slam Dunk to come back? Now? Well, you can't fix everything. I mean, here's here's the problem. It's gonna come up. The left tackle is gonna come up no matter what because one year, I mean, I think you gotta sign I probably franchise him again, That's

what I would do. You've switched, You've you've switched on that one a little bit. You were three weeks ago, you're giving him a deal get and now he's tacking. I'm like, yeah, well, I mean he's been. I mean he's okay, he's good, not great. Set again. Here's here's here's the problem you have is how many positions the need did you address in this past draft? Like where you got guys that you say, okay, they're starters. We're

gonna build around those guys. Quarterback okay, quarterback who else? Campbell, camb okay, who else? That's it. You gotta get more than just two guys you can build around. In the draft. That's part of the problem, especially when you've missed on the draft so many years in a row. Let me, this is a this is a serious, serious question. Can't wait for this. Could you see a scenario where none of them are starting next year on that offensive line?

None of the current five? Correct? No, because Bambarts is gonna start after Yeah, he played terrible yesterday, but he'll be a start next year. And he had problems with Grandy Jarred last week. Okay, I'll give you a bed Bars, but you can see a scenario where four of the five might not be starting next year. I ain't John Taylor because he's the right price tag and you can't fix everything. I think he's starting next year too. Wow, man, But there's a there is definitely a chance that four

of the five could not be starting next year. But if you do the means which means this, which means this, Tony, that the five who started the season won't be starting because Norwell has gotten worse. He had he had a bad game Pete yesterday. Don't overreact against a guy who struggles against Aaron donnd has just been okay, all yere, Okay, He's okay. Fish on the deck. Unbelievable pizza. The fish gas me for air right now, popping around on the deck. No,

he's a free agent. Pay him. Well, I don't know what I have to pay him. It's can't be that much. Why can't it be that much? Because who'sna he's an older player. Who's gonna pay him a bunch of money? Okay? What do you do with Linda now that he's got a bam back to go? There? Another injury? I love Linda and I love on our team, but he's been hurt too much. He's not I don't know if you can invest. You can't invest in him, and then Cam if you tag him, I think you have to tag him. Yeah,

you have to tag. And we're getting a favorable long term deal, so quite possibly bare minimum, probably three or three or five are gonna be dow. What do you do? What do you do with Walker Little? I don't know were you drafted in the second round? I didn't draft him, you didn't. But if you draft in the second round, that's needs you. You think he's gonna be starting in year two? Does it not? Yes? Should they put him

out there the rest of this season? Put him where? Where? Somewhere, get him on the field somehow, whatever you want to play. He's not as good as can run routes, He's not. He's not as good as can. He's athletic, I'll say that. And I've heard, and I've only heard this like anadotically, that he's not. That he struggled in practice a little bit right now, That's all I've heard. I don't know if that's true or not. And they see it more than we do. We're not out there, so there's gotta

be a reason he's not out my guess. If he can make them better, he'll be playing. Cam Robinson played guard, Then who are you gonna played the left tackle? Will Richardson has Sometimes he's a better tackle than Walker Little. Right now, Pete, why would you move the better left tackle the guard? What about? What about maybe next year? What about Walking Little playing guard? You said you think he's got the frame, in the in the technique and everything to do it as much as Cam. The dudes.

Have you seen how big Walker Little is? Yeah, he's a big dude. Basically, they needed they need a new center. I mean, look at Kansas City didn't flip their entire offensive line and The question is this, and I'm asking this because I'm saying this with all sincerity. Are they that much better? They're a line though? No, Well that center is really good. Yeah, center is good. The right guards lawler, the left guards solid. He's good veteran. The tackles have been bad, bad, So there's some work to

be done. It sounds like we've got Pete going from the whole new offensive line down to like two new guys. He's offense. I'm starting from scratch. We're gonna call Pete. We're gonna call Pete fish Prisco flopping around like a fish on the deck. No, I didn't flop a bit. He's a free agent. Throw him back, Yeah you do. Let's come back. We're gonna keep it real, Keep it real with Bob Roberts. Your time's coming, Robert. When Dobb you sending this some vino, I need a little red wine.

He needs that quickly too, because he's got to give it out for Christmas. Breast checking the watch over here. Jaguar's Game Day Radio is brought to you by a five star Credit Union, Do good, bank Better, and It's Jaguar's Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. There's not much to say. I mean, after the similar message like San Francisco couple weeks ago. We just we got a lot more than that, and I just didn't didn't play well.

And I kind of saying the same thing. But we got a lot more to offer than that, and we gotta do better. We gotta figure it out. Obviously, if we knew the answer, we'd be doing it. But I keep plugging away, go about to work this week. I gotta get better. I mean, because I was especially offensively how it defensive a really good job early and then we had it. We had a good drive, moved the

ball down. There was fourteen plays to tol play something like that, but then after that just couldn't get anything going. We gotta play better, we gotta move the ball, gotta make plays, and UM trying to trying to figure that out.

There's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Of course, after the game in Los Angeles yesterday, thirty seven seven rams over the Jaguars, Jags folded a record of two and ten on the season, and this is Jaguars Happy our j P Shadrick Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli, and it's time to Keep It Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Bundavi opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning Wine by Robert Mondavi. Well, let's get to the running back situation. We touched on

it earlier tonight. What is the resolution here? What is what is the answer? And will we see more of James Robinson down the stretch here? What do you think? Um? I don't know, because I don't know how healthy is and I am lost when it comes to the overall strategy of the rotation and the overall philosophy of what they want to do offensively. So I can't answer that question. I wish I could. I've been lost since the beginning. Why James Robinson hasn't been the focal point of this offense?

And run the ball and be physical and in play auction pass off that slow down the pass for us. Take some shots, you know, a couple of shots a game, but really run it with James Robinson. Were like, he's getting twenty plus touches in the run game because he's your best back. I don't know. So I can't if he's not healthy, put him on the sideline because you can't have this him disappearing I don't care if he fumbles are not for twenty plays at a time. It

just doesn't make sense. And then throwing him in a garbage time at the end when you're telling me he's hurt. So they would have run the ball even if he was in there consistent, I mean, they didn't get any much. I'm talking overall, Pete, not just yesterday got they got their yesterday. Yeah. Oh yeah. You gotta play, and you gotta give the carries. And he clearly is better when he gets touches in a rhythm. We've seen that play out. I agree, if he's healthy, he's got to get to touches.

I would give him. You said in the pre game, yesterday rushes a game. Yes, And then I tend to agree with you. He's your best play Like I don't know if you've noticed our passing a game right now? Are passing it? Attack isn't exactly explosive, But then again, you always got Carlos high with that extra juice you and that you have the little evil laughter that it's the laugh is strong to that, and it's because the jokes make themselves. Man don't even need a joke writer anymore.

They just they just they just appear. The Grinch laugh like builds as the season goes along with Pete, and now he's in a prime December mode right now. You guys agree, you got Beselly holds his laugh back. I see him, He's like, are you talking about I'm not holding anything back laugh when I think it's funny. I don't want to. Don't you want to laugh the loud laugh that you normally laugh, and you're holding the back. I see you, Pete, I'll see this laughing at you.

It's not funny. Losing football games is not funny, Pete. What's professional football? To win? You gotta win. You'renna win, not lose. It's not funny. But yeah, you're trying to win. It's not That's the That's the thing about it. It makes it funny because there's the things that come out of his mouth. I mean it's comedy. It really is. Somebody I saw somebody put on I think it was Matt Hayes put on Twitter. I love Matt for years. He said he thinks Iran's trying to get fired with

some of the things coming out of his melt. Why was you trying to get fired? So I guess not the working great money. You get your money unless they unless they fire you for cause. Well, and they might be able to do that based on what happened in Uh. The dance hall wasn't a danceholl, dancehole. It sounds like something for like the fifties. It wasn't a suck hop. Well did he say that he was dancing or something? That's why I it was a bar pete was dance.

There you go. We're keeping it real, keep it keeping it real, right square dancing? Uh? Was Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open Up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Mandavi. Hey you know what cheers social today? That'll cheer us up. Social media questions, there were plenty of them. You love that? I mean, you love this be I'm convinced, like you, the more misery, the better he loves it, eats it up. I just hate to

seeing a quarterback rotting away. He's running away before our eyes. I said it, what was it a month ago? Three weeks ago? The most important thing that for this franchise can do is to figure out and protect Trevor Lawrence. He's the greatest asset they have that we have and you gotta build around him. Social media questions. When we return, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back,

It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli, Brent Reber on the audio tonight, Blake Stewart on the video side, glad you're along with us. After a Jaguars loss in Los Angeles against the Rams, thirty seven seven. The final score, it was ten seven at one point, it was zero zero, one point two. It was you were there, you saw it in person. It pulled away in the second half, the Rams did. And that's all

she wrote. End of the first half of the first Yeah, they you know, they missed the touchdown past and settled for that field goal before halftime and all that stuff too, Odell. And then then they connected on many in the second half. Let's put it that way. And the hard part, I mean the hard part is did you look at like the game's coming, Like, let's just take the Titans and they're coming off a bye, coming off a loss for

the bye. No, Derrick Henrys, that's good for the Derrick Kenry usually runs from eight hundred yards against us in Nashville. That's that's a positive, But like, can you even like building your like while the streams of vision where we score more than twenty points in the Titans, Like I struggled to especially like this whole James Robinson saga, Like what's going on there? The offensive line struggling as of late?

It took them thirteen plays on a drive to get into the end zone, by the way, with a couple of penalties. Help yeah, in the red zone? Like how many? How many thirteen play touchdown drives? Really are there? Urban said this again, I think today or yesterday. You gotta have big plays, you know, you have to have big plays to score. It would be interesting to see. And I don't have the statistics and statistic in front of me. Maybe we were can pull it up as he's sitting

there doing nothing looking at the computer right now. Um, where how many big plays do the Jags have this season? And where's that rank in the NFL? M hmm, that's gotta be last. It's gotta be well. I mean, you got the texted out there only average thirteen point seven points a game. They've had more big, big plays than that, though I don't know, I don't even know the number. So big play passes twenty five or more yards. This

is according to stats dot com. Jaggards are thirty one in the league, actually tied for twenty nights with fourteen um the Titans. That's not how many of those are screen passes? That's the question. I mean, it's not you know, we're at the bottom where you guess, near the bottom, So how do you score points? Like that's the thing that's like frustrated, like I can't I can whether or not.

I mean, you gotta have big plays and in explosive plays and field flipping plays and forty yard touchdowns are allowed, you know, but they haven't been able to do it. Let's get to social media questions. That's everybody that that. You know, we put out the bat signal earlier in the day. Here's the best we came up with today. Is it really a bat signal? Its tweet? It's a tweet. There's not like something we put in the sky. No, like a spotlight. No. No, that's just a saying question

number one at Devil x Jaguar. Why is it the talent we do find once in a while, it's horrible in Jacksonville, but they go somewhere else and excel. Is this franchise cursed? There's no such thing as a curse of a franchise Number one in my opinion, JP shaking. You think there's a curse, well, I mean I don't. I don't know what started it. I have no idea there is one. You think teams and no organizations be cursed. Okay, um, what was the rest of the question about being cursed?

Some um pop that back up? Sorry, so why do they find my question and somewhere else? Who are you talking about? Like I think I know Mention probably come on, come on, it's one game. Cardner did that here? He said what he is the backup quarterback who can flash and win a game for you? And I'm happy for him? Like who else? The other one I'm thinking the price? Say in Leonard for Nett Allen Robinson, An's doing nothing this year, Quincy Williams, Jets Cling Cole Ciling. Cole is

the third receiver. He probably the number one here, but it's not That's my whole point to the question, Like, there's not a long list of guys that we cut and go play somewhere else and play ground defensive guys like who the only traded off the guys from the seventeen team. Yeah, but they were good here. His point, someone not good here and then go somewhere else and oh yeah, like you're not placed. Campbell doesn't fall into that category because doesn't, and he doesn't, none of them do.

So basically, I'm disagreeing with the question. Hey, Pete, do you believe in curses? The curse of the Jaguar wide receiver? Yeah, the curse of the Jaguars wide receivers. It lives on, it's gone on since this. First of all, you don't actually believe in real curses of teams now. But the position is jinx. So you say, right what you're like a pete fish. That's that's going to be his name. Hey, Flipper, just say what you mean, mean what you says. The

jinx is different than the curse. Somebody put the curse. You gotta put the curse on something. How do you reverse That's why we have these Italian boards and stuff back in. How do you reverse it? Pete? How do you reverse the curse? Draft j This isn't work next year cursed reversed? Like do you have to do like what they did in Major League and go find like a live chicken or anything like that. It's not that,

it's just it's it's really coincidental that the position. I don't believe it has been a disaster almost the entire existence of the franchise. It's not accurate. True, Jimmy Smith, do you have his issues? His issue is going to the Pro Bowl every year too. But I mean, Jimmy Smith would be walking into camp and if he didn't have his issues. Miss my point, Pete, you're you're wow, you like that, JP? JP? What is that? What do you think you at the club? JP? We were talking

about that the dance hall, Pete. He s, we're gonna clip and save that. We're gonna find that great that it was a perfect setup. That's what it was. Okay, after Jimmy and he had his issues, then all the way through, if there's been something, all right, the next one. So you're done, next question social media at s busting two seven, Given we pick number two, right, at least we get either Thibodeaux or Hutchinson. Sorry, Pete, No wide receiver in the draft is worth a top five pick.

I would I would take one of the pass rushers. I look as much as I would think that they need to get help for the quarterback, as you gotta build around that guy. The way they rushed the passer and influence the quarterbacks. They gotta find another. You gotta stop. We're not talking about the draft. You said we wouldn't have to talk about draft until they were eliminated from the playoffs. You have to say, guess what right is back next week for tonight at mid Next question then

social media? Moving along today at duve all underscore to four guys, what should I tell my sixteen year old son after we just told me? Quote Dad, I can't do this with you anymore. The Jags never win and it's embarrassing. End quote. I just sat there and shocked, as he has watched since he was five. I'm worried for the future of this fan base. Hashtag how much can we take? Well, I don't like hearing what kids don't want to watch, and this, I mean, this is

a young man sixteen years old. First of all, it's that's that's worrisome, disappointing. But as a dad, you have a duty. You say, listen, you were for the Jags. You find somewhere else to live. Son So I told my kids true story. They're they're all Jaguar fans. Oh, they're big Jaguar fans at different My sons called me every game now, they complaining they're not happy right now.

But I even went further. Mhm. I remember one fateful Saturday afternoon, USC playing Notre Dame and my then call him, six year old maybe seven, walks in and starts rooting for Notre Dame. You know what I mean. Pete kicked him out of the house. I said, you either out to the street, kid, beat it. I said, you start rooting for USC, or you gonna find somewhere else to live. You're not rooting for Notre Dame. Out dad's responsibility to make sure the kid roots for Jacksonville. And you have to.

You have to teach them. This is a great lesson in perseverance, overcoming challenges, holding on the hope against all hope, when all is lost and you think death is around the corner and just facing you, you hang on and you don't let go. That's the lesson that the jag Wars are trying to teach that this young man right now, and as a dad, you are responsible. Here's what he's learned it. He's sixteen, so since he's been five, he

knows every year except one that had dead logs. So he's learned to count the ten one education, very education. The dad has to say, son, you have no choice. I will not feed you if you do not root for the Jaguars. No cell phone, no games, no internet, nothing. Get a job, get a gin job, find a place to live. If you're not going for the Jags, you should tell a kid look if they don't start using

Buch formations and don't have roots. Here we go again, let's move along social media on a roll tonight at Barbara Underscore, Mike is Chennault afraid to go over the middle. Why don't we throw the ball over the middle of the field. Man coverage absolutely kills us, and we seem happy to just die from it. Well, man coverage kills us because we don't run. Well, right, that's easy, all right. He used him in the backfield as a running back yesterday.

Experiment didn't turn out well, yeah, that was that was. In other words, he's not Deebo Samuel. No, he doesn't run like Deebo Samuel. Last year, obviously, last year, ring between the tackles. Somebody looked, okay, right, well didn't Here's what didn't Van Jefferson go right behind Chenault. Not draft. I don't know. Why are you doing that? Why are we back to the draft talk? Yeah, that's old draft talk? Had drafted? You do that? Any draft? Pete? Well, we're

doing him this one because he has worked out. Next question, good, Jefferson's a good player. That's why he is. He was in the end zone yesterday. They also at Jacob Ryan Hart too. Is it time to bring back the phone questions to the show? I think it's time to let Tony start yelling at fans again. That would be dangerous. How can you imagine? That's a producer question? You have to ask the who's the director the show? Well, Blake Sun video Studio director, what do you mean? What does

that mean? Who's like the executive producer of the show. We've got like seven of them, But who's like calling the shots? End of day? I call the shots on this show. Okay, let me say, let me tell you the GP your last come with you on that one? So okay, but remember why we got rid of the calls? You do remember that? Why is that because if ASSELLI losing his marbles after time. I mean it was aggressive,

really aggressive. I was was building confidence. You would take a question and the question is not even done being asked and you would just rip in the people well because and not even let him finish. They knew where it was going and it was nonsensical. So I was saving this time. You were the mean man. No, I was the I was the real man. No, you're you're so fake. You like you have you have like three

one liners. Beat you got a bunch of formation and that's like that's his first go to second go too. It's like, what great would you put on that? What was great? What kind of great? You? What? What? And you you berated? The fan said, you said you got the segment out. He has been the same since, No, he hasn't. I think we got another social media question. One more to go. This is at g MAC one, two, three, four, five, six seven real original The team has been rubbish for

too long? Is it players, coaches or ownership that should be held accountable? And what can be done in the offseason to attempt to make this team competitive in the division. Seriously, I think this is a This is a social media like tex tweet, whatever you wanna call it that I've seen it feels like repeat on repeat the last like four or five years, like this time of year. Let's ask the question, who's fault is it? Should we do startles accountable? Let me tell you he's accountable, all of them,

all the above. Obviously it starts a shot. Then it goes to you know the GM that, you know, the head coach, players, they're all accountable. They all got to do better. You need to draw a better, better plays, you need to execute better. JP needs to do the pregame show better. I don't think I think that. I think that, you know, the broadcast is a plus. I'm not sure we need to do better. But everyone else, I mean need to pull their weight. Seriously, who is

to blame everybody? Right? Well, if you want one person to blame, didn't have to start with the owner because he's I mean, in this case, he runs, I mean he's hiring the key personnel. Right. I saw a number the other day where his record as the owner is like forty something in a hundred and thirties. That could that possibly be right? Last year? Yes? And they're up this year after we go you know, fifteen and two ten straight years, we'll be back up to be right there.

Sustainable success comes to the quarterback position unless you ruin them, and you're one. We gotta we got a quarterback. That's what I'm saying. Though they're ruining him. Oh, just don't overstate that. I'm getting tired of people saying that too much. It's too early to say that. Oh I don't. I'm not sitting there because I've had guys I worked with asked me if he's going to be a bust. I'm like, are you kidding me? Well, there's the flipper again, coming

back again, Pete. He's just flipped on. That is this? He soar on both sides from flipping so much? That's how much? Whatever? Where did I? Where did you ever hear me say that Trevor Lawrence would be a bus ever? Basically? Just you said they're ruining him after well? I did not. I said he is a star of stars if they just help them. I heard different. I would you trade? Okay, here's one flipping Lawrence from mac Jones right now? Yes

or no? Trevor Larns from mac Jones, No JP, no way, no way, I'll do it for our social media questions. Tonight we'll come back and go around the National Football League. Here some radio calls. Monday night night. You better be on your game. Maybe the best Monday night of the year. Division leaders, number one seed on the table. I better get some energy out of you. We might just run that back. You just did a promo right there. Thank you,

It's well done. Yeah. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten x, our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. About ten minutes to go on this Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco. The Jaguars lost yesterday. Let's see about the rest of the National Football League. In Week thirteen, Cowboys over the Saints on Thursday. You had that game tone. We're a

bad football game, Pete, I following you on Twitter. How can on Peyton think Taysom Hill is the answer at quarterback. I don't get it, and he's got it. He's always had an affinity for him. He really does. I've I've actually had conversation to him where I told him. He can't pass on it. He tries to defend them, he can't pass. Hm, you told him Pete had a lot of They've had a lot of body injuries. I mean they're no, I mean no, Camara just kills them. Yeah,

no tackles. Well, I mean but yeah, Camara is they're going yet they're owing four without camera. M hmm. Bucks over the Falcons thirty to seventeen. The Cardinals are still good. They beat the Bears thirty three, twenty two. Chargers over the Bengals. But for the Detroit Lions finally got a win the last play of the game. Dan Miller had the call, courtesy of w x y T FM on the Ticket and the Detroit Lions Radio Network. The Lions eleven yards from the ends one. They got to have

four seconds to go. They can win it with a touchdown, first victory of the year. On the line, Golf's got it back. Looks gross and touchdown the tracks. They did it, Ima ross A Brown never Steve began. Oh, they're rushing the field. They've done it. Three zeros on the crock. This game is over. It's Oliver Shared to Ama ross A Brown his first career touchdown. And how big is that? Have a day? Boys, have a day, have a day. Lion's gonna do. That was a long clip. That was

good that we finally got it done, Peter. They do a good job. What were they led? Dan Campbell off the hook, by the way, because he's leading late in the game, goes for it on fourth down, punting away right was from his own to nine. I think it was away. What are these coaches doing? I don't know. They should just watch you on Twitter and let him let you know. You you can tell him what to do. Pete.

That's what you do all the time. I would The Indianapolis Colts and another big day shut out the Texans. Jonathan Taylor with a touchdown now in ten straight games. This is Matt Taylor on the fan and handk FM Indianapolis.

Wait side of the count has Taylor. He's back to the left while they cos motions and the left side they get off the Taylor right up there, gut touchdown and d hy Jonathan Taylor put this second rushing score in the fall game and the Cults have broken and open twenty to nothing, shut out of the Houston Texans. The Colts trying to surge here in December. Yeah, I mean they got, they got, they have yet ta goodbye there by keep talking about a late by thirteen weeks

in this season, Um, yeah, there's three. There are three back against the UH Titans, so small margin of air. Yeah, I agree. But the only she has to have the wind division is they have to run the table and UH Tennessee has to you know, lose three in the next five. It's a big gasque mathematically possible. Dolphins over the Giants twenty to nine, and then the Eagles Minshew Mania hits Philly Merrill Reese on sports Radio ninety four w I p Cho takes the snappy fakes. He's back,

he's looking, he is firing. It is complete, breaking the tackle and going again. F the touchdown and cover thirty six yards. Well, the Vehagles over the Jets thirty eight teen, Gardner Minshew Pete. Well, they threw they ran for a five yards. It's pretty easy to play quarterback and you run for hun eight five yards. And the one throw to Godard that was a touchdown, the long one on the sideline, he underthrew it. He didn't make a great throw. God had made a good play on it. He was Okay,

I get this all the time. When when ever menshe wins a game, I get million people. Oh he should be starting. He should have been Jacksonville. Still, he should have been starting. He's better than starters around the league. No, he's not people who watched him on a regular basis like Baselli and and guys who cover the team. No, he's he can do this for a game or two. But that's what he is. He's a backup quarterback and

he good for him. He played. Wow. Yeah, like this other thing, why why did rooting against guys like I'm happy for him? That doesn't mean I wanted to be the starting quarterback on my team. Happy for him. I mean the question is is does anyone think this franch has to be better with Gardner Minshew right now than Trevor Lawrence for the long haul? No? No, then what

are you talking about? We're moving on to Washington in Las Vegas, and the football team gotta win with a late field goal and this is the opposing called Brent Musburger on the Compass Media Las Vegas Raiders radio network. Looks like it is going to be about a forty eight yard for the recently side field goal. Kicker forty eight yards crowd the one clicks it away off to the right and slides two on the right side to

put Washington ahead seventeen to fifteen. What a pressure kick by Brian Johnson, young man for Virginia Tech Lossington over the Raiders seventeen fifteen. Yeah, I remember the Raiders at one point were with four and pet five and two. Yeah, five and two. They've they've got one in four pretty much since Gruden's firing and then obation in the UH

safety as well, they let go. Yeah, well, give them, give the Washington credit and give Jack del Rio some credit too, because earlier the season I thought their depose was gonna be dominant, and they were bad, and then they lose Chase Young and Montes Sweat and now they've won for in a row and they played Dallas this week with a chance to close to the one game

in the division. Well, you know who's playing good? Pete is Jonathan Allen like dominant, unbelievably good, unbelievably good for Alabama. Yes he did. He went to Alabama, the Ravens and the Steelers. The Ravens scored and decided to go for two. Bill Hill Grove had the call on one h two point five w d V and the Steelers radio network, Jackson and the gun freeman stands to us, right, freeman gets a fake big rush. He throws it. Hey, it's

it's a rapt part. Mark Andrews pick one hand on it out in the right planet and dropped the ball and the Steelers preserved a victory with twelve seconds to go. To Wow. Wow, indeed about it. That's a that's a that's a bad loss for the Ravens because the Steelers are not very good now. Defensively, they're playing bad. They got t J. White back. I actually got the Steelers game Thursday night in Minnesota. I mean, that's that's a playoff game for those two teams. I think the loser

puts him in especially. Yeah, the losers in trouble. But but what the hell did he go for two? He had no corners, he had better kicker. I mean, give me a break, he's had we he had he was down one corner. He's down. I was telling you what he said, I mean, you can, you can? You can? Said, what do you say? What did you say? Flipper? Would you gone for two? All? Right? Final two? Scores here, Seahawks over every Day, the Chiefs over the Broncos nine.

Last night, Monday Night Football, It's a battle in the a f C East. Weather at issue tonight in Orchard Park, blizzard like conditions. The wind is howling at what used to be called rich Stadium's New Era field. I believe either way, it's Mac Jones and the eight and for New England Patriots against Josh Allen in the seven and four Buffalo Bills. Who you got tonight? Tone? You got me more prepared. You gotta know the name of the state, and so it flows that you had to break it down.

You got tonight, Tone, I got the Patriots, and there the better team I got. I'm on the other side. I got Buffalo. I got Buffalo. Bad weather is going to be bad, bad weather December. Who can run the ball better? And the Patriots run it better than the Bills. The Bills have the better run defense, though. Patriots pretty good there, Pete, No, they're not in run defense. They give up twouter six yards last week. The Titans on the ground a Lanta. You told him, Pete, have a

good one, have a good weeks here. That's Tony Boselli. Our entire crew, britt Reaver, Flake Stewart, I'm J P. Shadrick. Will see you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Doing over there with the Yeah I might catch yeah, definitely