It's Monday, December twenty seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loan and now a guy who believes bed with great power comes great free stuff from all kinds of people. J P. Jag Rick. It is that time of year. Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, We've got a busy show is always on Monday. Coming up. Senior writer for CBS Sports Pete Prisco down in South Florida.
Pride of the Jaguars. Left tackle Tony Biselli will join us as always for review Weeks six seen Jets twenty six, Jaguars twenty one. The Jags had the ball to one yard line. I couldn't score. Social media questions are all over the place today. We're gonna get through a bunch of them and we'll go around the league. And here's some radio call. In week number sixteen, Well, the Jags fell short in New York. Now seven straight losses for
the Jags. Of defense gave up two hundred seventy three rushing yards, tied for the fourth most enfranchise history allowed for the Jaguars defense. Special teams gave up another kick off, re turn touchdown and some other long ones as well. The offense had to ball in their hands on a two minute drill got down to the one yard line but short and interim head coach darryld Bebel after the
game on that final possession and situation. So at the end, you know, we had to ended up having that that play where the ball I think almost got tipped and then uh, you know, and Marvin ended up catching it on the one and um, we ended up taking we ended up spiking it, you know, to get the clock stopped there on on a third down, so the um, you know, to be able to try to get us into the best play and then you know, we just didn't do a good job to communicating and get lined
up on the last play. Um, you know, it should have given us plenty of time, but uh, you know, we didn't. We didn't execute it very well. There. That's Darryl Bebel after the game, Pete Briscoe and Tony WASSELLI joining us now, Pete, good afternoon to you. That's a poor explanation for what happened at the end of the game. Okay, they botched it. There's a better explanation for it. You
botched it. You don't spike. You know third down the downs are more valuable play play football, And why were you running it in the middle of the field with a minute five seconds left? What are they doing? And I've heard fired people blaming Trevor for that. I had guys texted me saying it was that on Trevor. How does he not know? Did they tell him in his helm with the spike? It? Do we know that? Do not know that? I do not know that? But I think he's I mean they when they lined up, I
think they seconds or something like that. Seconds when they got you know, trying to get everything organized. You have plenty of time to your point, Pete, to the quickshand signals, run a fade, run some combination out rubber or whatever. I mean, you should have gotten two shots the end zone um instead of a spike. And then fourth down, which by the way, was all over the place from the standpoint of not being organized and not going out
the lineup, which so they used it. They used the third down well to get organized to get the right play on board down. What are you doing? And then you know you look at I agree with you that, like the thing down, things get enough coverage, is no time out left, you know, zone read or whatever it was it left. I'm like, what do we do? I mean? So, Um, it was interesting to say the least. And there's a couple of things that I thought that for a little
bit surprising to me. One the NFL didn't stop play and review whether Marvin Jones in in the end zone or not. It was really close. Agreed, it was really really close. So I wanted again on the game, did you watch the tape today because on the tape it looks like he's almost in. Yeah, I've seen some pictures. I have not watched it. I've been running around dealing with some family stuff today, so um had not seen that. But yeah, I agree with you, Pete. It looked like
to me, um, from the angle. Now you know you can the angles can fool you, but it looked like it at least deserved to be stopped to play and take a look. Here's one of those like, if they're not rushing to spike the ball, do you think they have time to stop to play and look at it. Well, the NFL should be getting that before anyone else does. Like in real time. This is what they do. They have fifty thou televisions in the New York office. They should have seen a glance at it. One glance says
stop buzz stop playing. Um, you know, because all they have to do is they all they have to do is buzzing. As long as the buzzer comes before the play, You're fine. Um, JP, it's a fair question. I mean, do they if they take an extra couple of seconds to call it play? Um, do they maybe get it reviewed and maybe win the game? Now, it was a it was a break. Let's be honest. That should have been a pick sick. I mean six wasn't It wasn't a tip. It was a dropt interception that ricochet to
Marma Jones. I mean it was a terrible It was a terrible decision. Yes, it was a gift. I mean that should have been taking house called the other way. And by the way, UM, if I put my Pete brisco hat on What's best organization, the best thing happened, got got experience, Uh in a two minute situation, great learning and lost. We're probably gonna have the number one
overall pick. I was amazed that you just said that because I'm sitting there watching in the green room yesterday and I told those guys I go on Monday, when I go with the selly, I say, this is a great for the organization. He always argues with me, you you you've been I've wore you down. You're done. I've
never ever ever indeed that. But I mean, if you're looking at if you take all the emotion out of it, a player, our coaches respect him, have the number one paints better than not if you're gonna stink, like why stink so bad? And get the number three pick right? And you proved you could drive it into two minutes row he just didn't finish it. And and by the way, on second on second down, Marvin Jones almost in the exact same spot on the other side is wide open,
and he decided to throw it to the back. Why, I had no idea. But the other thing is it was a gift that they were in that game as well. If Ron Milton wasn't wasn't allergic to kicking field goals, it would have been a time that was like that was like a how not to for a coaching resume. Dude, It's like someone someone told them you're not allowed to get field goals today. I mean so, I mean, all in all, kind of like it. It ended up kind of how he probably deserved. I mean, my mind is,
we still don't make enough plays. I did like the fact that we're pushing the ball down the field. We pushed the ball down the field. Guys don't catch it, they don't hang on to it, they don't make plays. It has to make perfect. Everything has to be like perfect. That's not how the NFL works. So you need you know, receivers doing something. Um, I thought, sure it was much better. Now. Did he benefit from the fact that he was playing the worst defense in the NFL who was without five
starters because of COVID? Yes? Was it benefited from that's the worst pass rush and the history man kind, so you have time back there, back there, allay, those are all good things. It did it help him that he was playing against the secondary that had like guys who showed up thirty seconds before the game and put a Jets jersey on for the first time. Yes, all things that helped. It doesn't matter. It was a good day overall. He learned and hopefully give be a confidence builder and
the kid can play. I mean we've said that all along. Put some weapons around and give me a little bit of time. He has he has huge upside. There was some I think it was Rotal World and put out a tweet today asked about how he's the worst quarterback in throwing the ball down the field in some time or something, and I'm like, okay, but that he's Treadwell has to catch that one down the field, Marvin Jones. Marvin Jones on that one had to catch that one.
I mean there were two big plays that were dropped, and then there were a couple other drops as well. Marvin Jones dropped too, if I'm not mistake, and yesterday, I mean, it's just look, he was better. It's funny to see. And he still is. Accuracy at times is okay.
But I'll give you an example, Tony. There was a play where he hit Treadwell on the cross from the rights that came in from the right side where he opened to the left, look, stood moved up in the pocket, and then fired a shot to the middle of the field for about sixteen yards. I think it was on the right side. The very next play he comes back, I think it was he had he didn't wait long enough and he had to. I think it was the tight end behind him on the back. But those are
the things where you can see it's there. It's just a matter of what he gets there consistently because he has it. Yeah, well, and and now the trick is gonna be the running game. Obviously two weeks ago James Robinson has done a torn achilles that was awful, a non contact play early and you know it's gonna be a goon ba wally a lot of the way, it sounds like the rest of the way a running back. Yeah, well, he missed a lot of He missed a bunch of
holes yesterday and that's when he watched the tape. There were some cavernous holes there and he missed them. He's not a guy who's a great cut. He's downhill, you know, one to zero cuts. You know, he's not a He's not gonna jump up and see the backside and get there. It's just now I feel sorry for James rob I feel really bad for James Robinson because he handled everything
this year like a pro. Could have been complaining and moaning and growning, and I know he went on with Brett Martine and those guys and complained a little bit, but not really. When he was asked the question, he answered it. And here they try to get rid of them. They drafted, they got to replace him. They can't give the ball. First couple of weeks he carried them all and got going. Then he got hurt, then he fumbled
that he was bench. Then he was said. I mean the whole thing has been a disaster for him, and you wonder now will he ever be the same guy? I mean, let's be honest. I mean cam Akers just came back. He's already on his way back now after tarn is Achilles earlier the year. But that can sometimes be a tough injury to come back from for a running back. Well, the good news is much like you know the A C l of old, it's every year it gets better and better the surgery and the rehab
and how guys will turn from that beat. So, I mean cam Akers is gonna is active after five and half months. You have never seen that in the past, in the twelve month injury. And so no, he's a young guy. You know he's gonna have the best medical team and surgeons and rehab. You know that you can get and let's hope for the best. But the reality is the concern is, yeah, he was one of the guys I was talking about, you can build around it right now you can't. You got questions. You have more
kinds of questions. So now you're looking at Okay, now we gotta go maybe address the running back position. So now, how many guys on the offense can you build around? I got like to maybe two, two and a half three. I was at three to four before. It's like, it's camp. It's camp, Robinson, Trevor, that's it. Maybe E d N. I don't know about who. You don't know, but he's gonna be there. But you're right there. But I didn't see anything in training camp that I think he's a
carey guy between the tackles running back, I don't. No, I don't either. Nowadays how many guys are though, Tony, you had one until you just towards the killing. But no, he didn't get game. No high Okay, last last year he was how about that? Thinking about that. He never got in the game. And we've got plenty ahead of course, we'll come back. We've got plenty of defensive talk. Zack Wilson ran through the Jaguars like a deer yesterday, Zack Wilson.
We'll get to some reasons why little later, special teams talk that'll cheer us up. Second Hour, your social media questions, and much more. We are often running as Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hour. He's brought to you by Dream Finders Homes Homes that fit your lifestyle and by Baptist Health, Changing Healthcare for Good. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, JP Shadrick, Pete Priscoe, Tony Massell.
You recapping at Jaguars lost to the New York Jets and just a few moments ago. The Jacksonville Jaguars have made a number of roster moves, including a fish replacing running back James Robinson on injured reserve. They have added ten players to the reserve COVID nineteen lists this afternoon.
Here they are tight end Dan Arnold, defensive tackle, Malcolm Brown defensive end, outside linebacker Caleb and Chase On tight end, Luke Ferrell defensive tackle, Devon Hamilton's center, Brandon Lender, tight end Chris man Hurts defensive end and outside linebacker Laurenti McCrae, guard Andrew Norwell, and defensive lineman jahad Ward. They've added one practice squad player to the practice squad COVID list.
That's Jared Hawker at offensive lineman. Claimed two players off waivers from the Rams, linebacker Jamir Jones and running back McKay's sergeant. Ten active players added to the four already there on the COVID nine team list. Guys, um, it's crazy, Tony. It's it's gonna get it's gonna get worse. I mean, just look at where the Jets went last week and started off like they and they went the fourteen and they went to seventeen and the head coach like this
Omnikron deal. I mean, I'm not a scientist, but just looking around, you know, I don't think the vaccine is all that effective. It doesn't feel like it because everyone's getting regardless of vaccine or not. Um it's milder though, well like most viruses. And let me just be really careful because I'm not gonna play I'm gonna play a doctor on you know radio. Everything. Everything I've been told is that you know, viruses like this typically get more
contagious and weaker as they mutate. And I think that's what you're seeing. Ye know, early I got that, that's very linit. I got the early case where about killed you know, it was like kill you. And it's slowly devolving where it's not as bad, but it's super contagious. I mean, it just spreads like it's it's like a cold. Remember like remember the old days before COVID was around, Like they are these things called cold to go around and everyone would get them, like it would go through
the locker room and you'd play the game. Guys, some guys who have running noses. Some guys would have a cough as long as you were hydrated and you weren't having a fever, like you played the game. I mean, Andrew Norma plays somebody something snaps just day. He's on the list of that. But my point, that's my point that I mean, my well, I guess what I'm saying.
I think it's gonna get worse. Like I think the NFL's forget the Jaguars right now, because I hate to say this, but the NFL doesn't care about whether the Jaguars have COVID or not because they have the playoffs, are not bank the playoffs whatever they do, worry about the game because New England in the playoffs. They gotta make sure the game displayed somewhere because an impacts the overall standard. Where the NFL has a big issue coming,
Pete is January. Yeah, but maybe if I ended up because like in South Africa ran through and it was gone in about three or three weeks. Oh, I think they got a nation coming then. I think I read I did the research. It was gone in South African about three weeks. Okay, Pete, I hope you're right. I'm just thinking, here we go. But like in the next couple of weeks, you're right, it's gonna be Well. Didn't
they stop testing asymptomatic players too? Yeah, if you're vaccinated, if you're vaccinated, correct, So that means all those people are either unvaccinated or vaccinated and symptoms, right, but like what symptoms? Well, let's put it this way. If you were playing back in the day, Baselly and you had a stuffy nose, I would I would be taking let me tell you what I'd be doing. If I'm just being completely honest, would you tell people you were symptomatic. No,
I didn't think he would let my sinuses. He'd be spreading it through the entire locker room. There's the funnest among us. It's silly. The flip side of that is, I mean, my guess is I probably would be honest, because what you don't want to do is be the reason the whole teams out. Like either you either have to make a pact as a team, like, hey, listen, guys,
we're in this together. We're not telling reporting anything unless you're like really really sick, really somebody really really think and then he ends up in like where you were in marked last two years. But pete, everything I'm reading
in this omniground, that's not the case. Yeah, I heard, it's it's definitely less we've had We've had it run through our building recently at work, and and you know we all have to be tested again and nobody you know, the guy who had it didn't even have any symptoms. He was testing because another guy had it. Yeah, that isn't that funny. I mean, well, I mean, let's be real.
Testing is a big business. I mean I should have got into it much years ago, because right now I mean, yeah, it's uh, it's nuts because I've had I've had I've had to take tests because of close contexts over the weeks of people, and I mean, I have no symptoms, but you never know, take the tests. You're like, I wonder if it's gonna come back positive negative, because you don't have to have symptoms to get this stuff to have it. But you're right though, any little sniffle and
you're all colvid in. I got COVID. Everybody thinks they have COVID. Now they're the flu and the cold has gone away. They don't. They don't exist except for my My wife's exactly option. She just thinks because because I'm overly consciously on the radio show and we have the broadcasting nflos's rule. It was so funny my wife. This was weeks ago and I came home. She's like, see, you know, running nose and not feeling good. I'm like, you gotta get tested. She's I don't have COVID. It's
called a cold, Tony. I have a cold. So all I have And this is before the omnicron and uh, this is once ago. And I'm like, no, you mean and she I mean the best is I wouldn't got tested just because that's what you do. And she goes and comes back negative, and she just looked at me. She says, I told you I have a cold. There's such things as cold. Still, because you're right, Pete, I tell that story because you don't know in every sniffle or cough or heck, because you travel. I mean, you
don't travel as much as I do anymore. But you're on the plane, you hear someone coughing or sneezy, You're like, oh, great, COVID, here we go. Reality, it could just be a hand called. So either way, these are way. There are fourteen names on the list of the moment. That means I guess it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna increase JP I think. I mean, I don't want to be Debbie down or a doomsday guy here. And I hope no one gets sick. That's the most important. I mean, I hope you don't
get seriously sick. I hope it is just a cold that pet and I are talking about. God forbid anyone getting really sick. And I am in law. I've relatives were older. We're very susceptible and have other underlying conditions. So I mean I got tested last week coming home from travel, even though I found no symptoms, just to make sure before I went on. UM, so we don't want anyone who's sick. But UM, good news is these are young guys, they're healthy. The reality is they'll probably fine.
But I think the list is gonna grow. I think the numbers will grow. I think if it's ten today, I wouldn't be surprised if it's near twenty by Wednesday. And then you gotta prep for the game. So like so like the rest of the season, they're gonna be playing with a lot of practice squad looking players. Well listen, maybe it works out because the last two weeks we played teams that were ravaged by COVID and weren't very
good and they beat us. So maybe we can be the team ravaged by beat team Well JP, JP already guaranteed this one. Remember what what if what if it was it was a sweep of the a FC East and what if it's the Jets of all teams that ruined that lot. Yeah, but you know you don't actually believe that, dude, You no, No, I'll be honest. I mean, before the COVID News. They are only sixty and a half point underdog. So my guess is that's gonna increases the COVID cases. But let's go back to the bigger issue.
The NFL has some problem. I don't know how they're gonna get through the last I mean, knowing the NFL, they'll just push through and say we are going and figure it out. We're playing games. But we've seen the NHL shut down. By the way, the league is vaccinated in the NHL, and they've shut down because I mean, by the reports. And again I'm pro vaccine. I've been vaccinated, I've had it vaccinated. I guess smart. It sure doesn't
feel like the vaccine is working against his omnigrond. Then, because because everyone's getting maybe they're gonna be playing games. There's gonna be Look at the Saints tonight, Look at all the guys they're not playing with tonight we're starting and they tried to reach out to Drew Brees and Philip Rivers allegedly. Come on, it's crazy. It's crazy. You know, if the Jaguar, if Trevor Lards got COVID, maybe the Jaguars could call Brunel he's I've seen him throw it.
You can spend it still. Um. You know what's interesting to me what I love about the NFL the arrogance. That's not arrogance, because this is a good thing. Like the attitude the NFL is like, we're playing football, Like figure it out. I don't care if you have to go find the fiftieth quarterback. Go find the fiftieth quarterback. You're playing. This is the season we're playing. Where you see these other leads like the NHL shutdown, NBAS have
all kinds of issues. They're canceling games left and right. In the NFL is like nope, no part of that too, is like the NHL is what what NBA's eighty games? Right? NHL is about that? So they got many more games? Well, not only that, not only that in the NHL and in the NBA, you could push and move it out right, you can't move the Super Bowl. Everybody's got the you've
got this plans there. Well, and I listen, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the people the amount of people who care about the NHL Stanley Cup for the NBA playoff finals compared to the people who care about the super Bowl's minuscule. I mean, corporations planned their entire year around the Super Bowl. Correct. By the way, here's the other thing. Last week you had in the last twelve of the last of the twelve last days,
nine of them have had primetime football. The NFL hates that COVID is doing this, but in the back of their mind they're not so amazing. Did you see the ratings for those Tuesday games last wee? Yeah, yes, and they were split. You could only get one or the other. That's right. Well, listen, we said it last year. I'll say it again. I could argue that the NFL should be playing games on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, take Wednesday off, pick it back up on Friday, takeda Friday, pick it
up on Thursday, take Friday off, Saturday Sunday. Well, they did, that's what they just did it. That's my point, Pete. That's what people want. I mean, do you always read the I always see your brother and somebody the National Brethren say, oh, it's too much, that's too much football. It's gonna be a deluded product. The fans say, no, no, we love it. Fantasy football gambling. This is what we do we want it more? It was more, more and more. You can't you can't feed the beast enough. It's the
greatest reality TV known to mankind. Correct Speaking of that, the reality was Sunday that Zack Wilson ran all over the Jaguars defense. We'll get into that performance talking about we gotta talk Pete, I mean JP and Pete I didn't see this. We gotta talk about that fifty two yard running, some of the effort by some of the players and that, Yeah, we gotta dive into that. We we're gonna go. We're gonna take a deep dive when we come back, a deep dive coming up on the
defensive performance yesterday. Of course, the second hour, your social media questions and much more ahead. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jetol Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. If Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after Week sixteen, j P. Shadrick, Pete, Frisco, Tony Wasselly, Jaguars fell to the Jets twenty six, twenty one, and in yesterday's game, the Jacksonville Jaguars defense allowed the Jets to run all
over them all day long. Two hundred seventy three rushing yards, tied for the fourth most allowed in Jaguars franchise history. Zack Wilson could not be stopped four carry's ninety one yards and a touchdown of fifty two yards. His previous long are high and yardage rushing in the NFL this year he's a rookie, of course, was thirty three yards. His high in college was seventy three yards back when
he was a spry eighteen year old and eighteen. Well, he goes for one, including fifty two on one play Tony and about four guys had a chance in man, see who the quitters will let's break down. Okay, here he goes, he's running down the sideline. Okay, we're not gonna tackle you, okay. And why is someone no one diving in there? A little part of that is a little you're going out of bounds and then you don't rewind that. Rewind it, rewind it, rewind it. Okay, right here,
watch uh, Jason. He thinks about five yards behind the place. And guess what you do. You don't run behind him if you think he's run in front of him, force him to run out of bounds. If you're running behind him, like you're setting yourself be embarrassed like this, and this is what happened, like what are you running behind him? Run in front of him? And then died? Well here's the other. But is it let me ask you, this is there part of it that's tacky for not going
out of bounds. No, I love it because he well he made it look like he was going out of bounds and then he didn't. And you know sometimes remember like Kenny Pickett looked like he was gonna slide and then didn't slide in that game a couple of weeks ago, and then that's different and they changed the rules after that. By the way, correct, that didn't look like he was running out of bounds like he was. He never slowed down. He was running full speed. Yes he did. No, I disagree,
Show it again, Show it again. He did look like he was going out of bounds kind of a high step. It's not really a slowdown. It's like a kind of oaky doked him, is what he did. And that's fine right there at the thirty three yard line. Yeah, Like why is chased on stowing down? Why is look at go back like look, why is Cisco like John like go run brand games on the line. I'll be honest with you now that I look at it. When I watched it first, I thought it looked like he was
going out of bounds and he didn't. He just kept running. I mean, he plans and cuts back. It was all. It's an awful display of hustle. It's an awful display of tackling. It's an awful display of football awareness and beat because if if if Rudy Ford cuts him off in front, he forces him down to bounce. Look at the angle, it's a terrible angle. Well, winger didn't make a very good thing the way it's like, oh, here
we go. And my point of saying that is, and I've been a big fan of Rudy for I think Rudy Ford is a good fine but but this is two weeks in a row. You go look at the kickoff return Um week before, whoever we play at a Houston pretty for Um did not have a courageous moment. I'm going in the makes the tackle and JP you've seen it, I know you have UM. And then this right here, it's back to back weeks. Come on, you can't do that because I think he's a good football player,
Just go you're getting your first chance on the field. Man, you should be busting And he played good, he did some really good things. But you have to bust it on every play. That's what good teams do. By the way, that's what good defenses do. Chase on, what are you doing? Go until he's out of bounds. Go yeah. And that's a bunch of young players who just deserved to see that over and over again in the film room, said I just I wouldn't even say a word. I just go, Okay,
this is what I would do. And I probably can't get away with this and today, but this is what would have happened. And then back in hig school when I was high school coach, just beat this is what I do. I just go And I just I would wouldn't yell. I just keep on going back and forth. And I said, hey, um, so and so, can you explain to me what's going on? Here? Are you on full speed? And I just asked questions in front of everybody. And then back to the next guy, Hey, so and so,
good angle here did you quit on the play? At this guy? Score? Like there has to be accountability. You don't have agree, no, I agree. You know, by the way, you don't have to rip them, you don't call them names. This is professional football, though, there needs to be accountability, and you know what, when you have a good team, you don't even have to do that as a coach because the players in the locker room. If that would have happened in the locker room I was in, you
would have got ripped. Not by the coaches, well you would have. Tom would RiPP up too, but the players like, what are we doing? Yeah? What what's the what's the point of lollygagon? There's never there's no win to lolligag because it's gonna be everyone's gonna see it only hurts you, especially if you're like a bubble and you're gonna see it. Were the tape is out there, everybody's gonna see it. Yeah he I used to say all the time. Part of I would play hard, and I'm sure that someone
can find taping me doing something stupid. I guarantee it. But I was always I'd go in and after the game, I'd be thinking, like every player, because I don't want to be embarrassed. I didn't want my peers around the league. I knew that every coach, every defensive line coach be watching my tape and the defensive line be watching them. And what who I was as a player is my signature I put on that tape. That's who you are a player. You have to understand that that's who you are.
And the only way you overcome that. If you're Rudy Forward or any of other guys or Chason or whoever it is, did you guys say that will never happen to me again. And if that happens, if you take that away, then guess what you'll be. Okay, Well, it's just like at the end of the game last night. If I'm if I'm a personnel guy and I put on the Washington team and I want to see who's playing hard still at the end of that game. I used to say it all the time. You find out,
you find out blowouts. Who your guys are. Who are the dudes who care? Who are the dudes who are like I'm a pro and you know what, I don't care and I'm not. I'll tell you a story. Uh, We're playing the Patriots one year and I'm not gonna tell you the individual on the offensive line who said this to me. Um and we were down. You know, we were down like two or three scores in the second half, and you know it's mid third quarter, and
here we go. This is what Tom said, Okay, we're down, we're going two minutes and we are chucking around the field. We're gonna get back in this scene, and it's an offensive linement that is miserable. It is flat miserable. When you have the likes of William Guinnis and Chris Laide and all these patriots come in to Tenny, Bruce Ki and everyone else and they have their hands on the ground, their ears pinned back, and they're coming after you. It's a long quarter and a half. Say long, it's brutal.
And I remember we're sitting there and we're ready to go on the field and I'm going to go in two minutes. And one of my offensive linemates it's like, oh, come on, what are we doing, and started complaining. And I looked at him and said, hey, listen, dude, this is what we signed up for. Stop complaining and let's go. It's not fun. I don't enjoy it. I didn't want to do it. I'm like, whoa, this is gonna be fun. Let's d one of one pass broken all pro even
to men's were five minutes. But guess what, that's the game, that's what you signed up for. You gotta I guarantee you it wasn't white out. Why that was retired by that because listen, I've had am I from high school through. If I think back, there's a couple of moments where I had coaches question They turned on the tape and and I didn't look great and they questioned me, and that hurt me because I never wanted to be questioned
as a player about effort. You don't want to be questioned ever about anything, and particularly about your work ethic. That's my point, right, and that so if you're not good, If you're not good, you're not good. There's nothing None of the work ethic in the world will make. You're talking about good players who don't show work ethics. I think Rudy Ford is a good football player, straight line. But my point is he's a good guy. Like I wanted him on my team. Is at least special teams
in a down the line secondary player. For what I've seen the last two weeks, Rudy, what is that like? For the three cords of the season. Up until the last two weeks, she'd been a rock star, flying around making plays violent. Come on, man, you gotta do it for sixteen games. You know what? He didn't call out his team and his players when he was in high school. But he just called that Rudy going after James. But well, I mean, are we not are we not saying you're
watching it? I mean, it's not like now you're you know, you have every right to call him out. I'll bring it back. And I like Rudy Ford. You don't have to preface it by saying that he dogged it on the plate to say it. Why can't you sound like you sound like a network analyst sometimes? Oh well, you know, I'm just saying. I'm only saying I like him because you idiots are making coming after me now, so I'm defending myself. So hey, plenty ahead. We need to hear
from Trevor Lawrence. We haven't done that yet. We'll hear from the Jags quarterback talk about we gotta talking about the whirlybird coming up. Dude. Oh yeah, that's going to be oh, I said, I said out on my Twitter. Look at the whirlybird. Was in action again yesterday. Okay, I gotta looking up. I haven't seen it. We'll do a little research. We'll go through the draft order when we come back as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented
by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Networks. Compared to all the games, it's tough to say, but like I said, the guys they played creative front. He can't ask for anything more, you know, but hardly any pressures at all. Um had a lot of time and that was an emphasis I wanted to make this week too. Was sitting in there trusting those guys a little bit more instead of looking to scrambles. Were just sitting in there trusting those guys. UM, allowing myself to have an
opportunity to make the plays downfield. And you saw, Um we made a lot of them. We even left something out there, and we gotta, you know, miss a couple of throws. Um, a couple of guys go out and make you play like there's there's still more plays out there as well as we you know, or as many big plays to be hit. So that's that's a part of the thing. As Trevor Lawrence, he was sacked once hit four times in the game yesterday, the loss to
the New York Jets and its Jaguars. Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans and Veterans Choose v A for the benefits you earned, visit Choose dot v A, dot gov JP Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. Second hour coming up. Of course at the top of the hour, we'll get your social questions to go around. The NFL will continue to recap the JAG's loss yesterday. The one sack, though
in the game it was costly. It was a nineteen yard sack and a fumble and a return of six yards to flip the field and pretty I saw, I saw the worldly bird. Well what is that? It's not it's a I mean a lot of teams do it its but but but usually he has to take inside. You can't miss the guy about that, right? Well? He The idea is, well, who's supposed to block the outside guy the tight end coming across right? Yeah? Yes, and then lender should have gotten tried to get around to
get mostly here's the deal. The the Jets hit it right with the blitz. That's a tough block when the blitz is on and I hit it right with the blitz and that's the situation where then like, okay, I know the play I know the situation, like punting's okay, I just like get down, take the sat Like how many times have we seen Tom Brady when that situation he just goes down. He's like, okay, I'm done, like
like the good ones. No, it's like it's over. I don't remember you guys ever using the world birth did you, um Karents think? I mean, I reverses his stuff like some reverse pivots and stuff like that. We didn't call it the world broom. But yeah, I mean I'm not It's not a bad concept. It's just Trevor's gonna be smarter. I mean he's gonna know like, hey, I got nowhere. You get that ball security and if you're gonna try to run away like that because he is athletics, so
athletic quarterbacks can do it. We've seen it. You gotta have great ball security. So you so to the worst two of the worst place of the year came because of the Worldly Bird. Well it's not. Yeah, maybe we should take it out in the playbook right now. Hey, hey,
you speaking only because we talked about this early. I just saw on Twitter because I was looking through Pizze stuff that um and this is Caitlin Collins, who is this uh DNN correspondent for UM White White House coming out that the CDC is now shortening the isolation period from people who test positive not just were around it, from ten days to five days, and that you know you're free to go after ten days five days, just wear a mask for the falling five days, I mean.
And so I think what my point is saying, this is what Pete and I were saying earlier. This new variant is more of a cold that comes on quicker leaves quicker, and the hope is going back to our comments about how will this impact the rest of the season.
Obviously big story right now with the ten guys from the Jaguars, And I did see on why And the only reason I bring this up because it was on Twitter that UM Andrew Oyl's is probably is out no matter what, for ten days according to the the NFL because he's unvaccinated. So he's gonna be out for sure for the game. But there might be a number of other guys on that list that will be ready to go by the gotta test back in. Yeah, based on the new this isn't even saying you know, doesn't even say
it the test. You just have to find that that's c d C. That's not the NFL. The NFL. You gotta test back in and we'll see if the league changes there. Stand watch the NFL change it, Peter. I'm telling you, I'll bet you dinner by the end of the week end that one's going to go. Where's dinner? By the way, what what? What do you call that variant? I want you to say it again for me? What is it? JP? What? Barry? What's the name of the bariant? Hang on, look, I don't know. Not Omni Crown it
is and it's not in Atlanta. I c r O N the house that Dominique built. Let me unbelievable. It keeps it within the theme of the show though. No matter where we go, there's always a country. I don't even catch on to it until you just did. I did see something on Twitter. This was two weeks ago that multiple like, there was a question on Twitter and then it was I looked online and they said, um, nobody actually knows exactly what the right pronunciation of omikron.
It's not omnique to your point, I butchered it. I'm not saying that, but like people all see it. I just I brought that up because I think it's I mean, this is just coming across in the last ten UH. Ian Rappaport just did five minutes ago that from the CDC they're changed. So this is a moving target with this whole UH, with the whole deal, and it'll be
interesting to see how the NFL reacts. We saw him last week with no CDC guidance basically come out and say, if you're vaccinated and you're close contact, we don't care anymore. You're playing football. Well, you gotta remember the c d C and everybody else they follow the everybody follows the NFL. Well, but but if if the CDC goes this far, you watch the NFL is coming back says we're done testing play football, Let's take a look at the That's actually
good new hold on p JP. That's that to me, And I know, like we have to be careful still because are you know, compromised individuals, underlying health conditions or older. We still gotta be careful. I'm not saying everyone's freaks out and like it's over. But this is like as a country, like, this is good that this thing is becoming less serious as far as getting people sick, and you know, saying I was just talking to a buddy
of mind who runs the health system. He says, we're seeing people come in, but we're seeing less people who have omnikron um, whether they're vaccinated or not, ending up like in the ice see you really sick. And so this is good. And trust me, I got a family member right now who is sick with this and not and it feels like, you know what. But overall, I just want to get I think all of us, whether you're an NFL fan or not, want this behind us. So we go on and not every five second you're
worried about, you know, this dang virus. So hopefully this is the start of us getting to the other side of it. And selfishly from an NFL fans standpoint, someone who works around the NFL, I hope it does not impact the playoffs because I think we are getting ready to have one of the best playoffs that we've had in a long time. Because there is so much parody amongst the top teams. There is not one team or
two teams that you need to say are dominant. Even the Green Bay Packards if you look at the point in differential, they win a bunch of close games and they're the best team, and they're gonna have probably the number one scene. So this is gonna be a great playoffs and I don't want to see it interrupted with with this daying virus. You're right, these playoffs are gonna be fantastic. Unfortunately we just have to sit here and watch it. Though again that's the problem. Well that's a
different story, JP. We're gonna break down the second I mean, and you know what the way things are going to be watching again next December. I mean, let'sten, I think, JP, and I know we're getting up on a hard break and not being in there today for multiple reasons. UM, just tell me when to shut up, but I am. We need to. I want to talk about, you know,
because think the big stories. Where does this team? Because today it was the first day that the Jacksonville Jaguars could start asking permission to talk to assistant coaches on other teams and could actually officially start the coaching search. And let's talk about where do they go? You know what are you know? What is the plan moving forward? Um? We have not gotten it right as an organization for a while now. I think that's pretty clear based on
the records it wins and losses. It's the best way to measure it. Coming off a tough season with the Urban Meyer stuff and where there was so much hooplah and I've never seen a a fan base an organization turned from being so excited about getting an individual to wanting him gone as fast as it happened. And you know what happens at the with the GM is truck Balky gonna be involved? Is he not? I mean, let's talk about that because this next decision that Sean Kan
has to make is critical to the future of this organization. Um, we have a young quarterback, we have a franchise quarterback in my opinion, but you better surround him with the right people and the right culture and the right organization to have success in you know, we need to get it right this time. Hey, by the way, Pete, you'll like this. The OMNI was closed and demolished just for the record in Atlanta, Well thank you, destroyed by the
CLI unbelievable, well believable. Um, flood of you ahead. Second hour of Jaguars four are coaching, search, talk, your social media questions, and much more. One hour down, one hour ago, It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jed home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Yeah. I was really proud of him. I was really proud of him today. You know, I thought he did a really good job of managing the game. Um, he took a lot of he took the checkdowns that
were there, He took the shots that were there. Um. That's probably the thing impressed me to it was the shot opportunities that he had that Um that he took those. And you know, whether it's one early in the game down to the tread well, you know they've got a past interference even late. You know the ball that he threw to uh the Tavon there on the right on the rights at their sideline in that two minute drill did a really good job of taking that. Um. So
you know, I like the throws he was taken. And then when they covered a dep he took the checkdowns and um got a lot of completions. I don't know what he ended up, but uh, I like it where he played today. That center of head coach Cheryl Bevil discussing Trevor Lawrence's day at the office of MetLife Stadium and East Ruthaford, New Jersey yesterday in week sixteen, a Jaguars lost and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour, our number two. Your social questions coming up. We'll go around
in the NFL as well. Alright, So one the final score. The Jags offense did move the ball. They had the ball in their hands in the final two minute drive, but came up a yard short. The Jaguars defense was depleted gave up two hundred seventy three rushing yards, tied for the fourth most allowed in Jaguar franchise history. The
special teams had a rough day again. Another kickoff returned touchdown, six total returns with the Jets for two dy eight yards, and now the Jags are dropped seventh straight for a two and thirteen record. Now it's not in New England to face Bill Belichick, Mac Jones and the New England Patriots. In week seventeen, Pete prisco Tony basely back with us. Well, Basselli's hands and his phone are back with us. I don't know it's right in front of camera. Second to go,
I don't know what are you eating? Sorry? My daughter biting at me some food. I want to be rude. Yeah, what are you eating? It's like uh, and she's like posted French breads with some kind of dip. It's outstanding. What a spoiled father. You beable? It really is. It's amazing. That doesn't that's like a snack too, that's not dinner. Oh. I have five, five kids. If you don't know that, you do now, two boys who were older and three
girls who are younger. I love my boys. I mean we're tight, but they're useless when it comes like taking care of that. My three girls are rock stars, Like I am like a king. This is like my castle, and I get served. They're just such good girls. I'm like, I love being I'm glad that I had boys and girls because they're so different. But the saying that girls love their daddies, it's like, I mean, I'm telling you what, you know, what's that old saying? Being a girl dad
or a dad girl and whatever? The girl that it's a good thing. So yeah, well you know she knows, she knows the way to your heart is so your stomach. Oh yeah, she knows she can have the credit card and go do it her next you want. She's smart. So yeah, that was my second daughter who made this, Alexis. So she's all three of my girls. Good girls about that, very nice. We're all jealousy. What were we talking about? Defense? Yeah? Poor defense, offense and the goal line at the end.
And now it's really about moving forward here. This is the Today is the day where the window can open to start interviewing over zoom candidates that are still in the national Football You talk to anybody's not in the league at any time you want. But the window opened today, and Tony you brought it up. You know, what is the general description of what you would like around here? First of all, start with the parameters. Yeah, well I'm back up even before that, JP, I think the first
thing is what's the process is going to be. Who's gonna be involved? Um, it's something that you know, Sean has kept pretty close with the best for the most part throughout the years of how this process goes. And I think the biggest question right now and I have no sense and I don't think anything you hear on the national media, I would not believe any of it. Not that any of the national reporters are doing a bad job, but I don't think anyone really knows outside
of shot com and maybe his closest advisers. Um, is what is he gonna do with the gym, because that will dictate what the process looks like. Is Trent Balky gonna be involved? Is he gonna be the gym next year? And if he is, will he be involved in in picking the next head coach? And that he was involved in picking the last head coach? And I don't know if he was. I mean he was, Yes, he was,
Yes he was. I don't want to go backwards beating debate that one way or another, because I mean, we could go back and forth, and because each of us have only heard partial information, because um, I know for a fact you haven't sat down and talked to shots specifically, nor have I on the topic. So I'm not gonna speculate looking backwards, um, but we can look forward and and if he's going to be a part of the process or not doing on the boat the other week
beating pizza on pizza pizza outsider. Uh, But you know, I'm I'm half joking about the past. I'm more looking for. I mean, pe you agree. The next biggest decision is that you have and I think you need to make it before you pick your next head coach. Are you sticking with Trent Bunky is your GM? Because if I'm a head coach interviewing for this job, I want to know it's just a guy he's interviewing me. Is he
going to be the guy? By the way you say, I'm an out well, I had influence again, coach fired? Oh my, we can pick that. That's a that's a whole show by Okay, I'm I'm being sarcastic. I'm kidding. I look, I said it along before most people said it. But I have no bearing whatsoever on that, none zero, Nor would I pretend to think that's the case. I just when I tell you this stuff, I tell you from what I would do if it was my team, and it was my team, Trent Boggy would be gone.
I'll be honest. I just think you need fresh, new blood, new star and so why why And like you here talk in the scuttle butt that maybe Shod likes Trent and he might keep them. I don't think that's a good decision, and it's not a look try and had his moment. He had his moment San Francisco, a bunch of them. He has his moment there. It just it needs new, it needs fresh now who that is to be determined. But I don't think you can. I don't
think it's the right thing to say. Okay, well we got rid of bourbon Meyer, but we're gonna keep the general manager because the roster so stocked, so let's keep the general manager. Right. So I just think you have to move on. You know. Look, I'm gonna say some things that I probably we'll shouldn't say, but I think they need to figure head. Start. That's never stopped. They need to figure head. But you might stop if they
need to figure head in the organization. They need not a figure head, but a guy who can trickle down. And I've said this before, I've said it over the years. I think you need to have some kind of role in the building. I'm gonna stop you there because I do not want to have that conversation. I'm not gonna have it on air. No, I'm not gonna have it on you. I'm just in my opinion, I'm not few
and me I've never talked about this. I'm just telling you, whether it's you or somebody else, they need somebody above above that GM, and they need that guy to hire the GM, and the GM and that guy to hire the coach. That's what they need. Want I want to go to different I want to go a different direction on this. I think it's critical and you and we and I think it's a fair conversation of what structure the organization you should have and how, And that's fine.
Like I don't even if anyone brings my name up, I'm shutting down the conversation because I have nothing to do. Like I have less to do with this than you do, Pe, So I have nothing to do with it. I'm sitting on the show having this conversation with you, and I get it. But I'm just saying the structure organization, whether it's you or or whoever somebody in that role down.
But the big but the bigger issue now with the window opening to go interview coaches, I think you have to make a declarative statement to set the tone whether he's gonna be here or not, because that's gonna impact who you want to get and how you the interview goes and what's basically you decide today whether you fire him now or or I would have to we have to. So if he's here tomorrow, then you are. Then the decision is if they made well. I also don't think
I mean, yes, the windows open today. I also don't think you have to like, oh my gosh, that's race because we might miss out on the guy because you're I mean, unless you plan on hiring that the guy before in the next two weeks, which I don't, and I'll tell you who I what style coach I go doing a second, I'm not as worried about that. So no, I don't think if we don't hear something tomorrow, it's
too late. I just think over again, you're right, though, Tony, if if Trent is involved in the process, then he's gonna have influence in the process, which if he's not gonna be your it makes no sense for him that influence in the process. Agreed, That's my point. And so I think over the next week to two weeks, one or two weeks that it is important for shankn to come out and say either Trent Balky is the GM and he's moving forward and it's part of the process,
and that's how we're gonna go. And we're gonna go hire a head coach or he's not, and I'm gonna go rebuild, and I'm gonna cut, I'm gonna I'm gonna wipe it clean. To your point, your your recommendation is wipe it clean, start fresh, and we'll argue the structure later. But you need a new GM, new head coach, and we're gonna go do that and go find those individuals. That is an important thing in my opinion for the future of this franchise, that that decision needs to be made.
But then that will influence who the next guy is. Well, okay, you can't. So if you're gonna talk to somebody this week, Trent Falky can't be involved in the influence of it unless he's unless you know, in my opinion, if if if Sean Conord asked me, I say you to keep him or don't, that's your call, right, but you're not gonna keep him. He can't be involved in the process. I agree that's the way it should be. And if
he's not involved in the process, then who is. Well, that's why I don't have an answer for that beat. I have no idea, but I don't I don't fully understand who was in the process the last tires well Trap was well, Trap was Trent was in the interviews. I don't know how the decision was made or anything else. But again, I'm gonna go back to structural organization. Here, lean on him, here, hire him, and then they hire
the next guy. And and I just think, I just think, if it's if he gets rid of if he gets rid of trap, let's just say gets rid of trap, who's running it, who's running the search, who's making those interviews, Who's who's talking football with the guy in the room. That's the problem. I would I agree. I mean, you and I are in the same page here. I mean, let's let's be honest about Trent's body of work. Okay, he had he did some good things in San Francisco.
He can't take it away from him. You can't. He did something. He had some issues with some of the coaches in San Francisco. We know that the Well document, the Well document. Hold on, let's make sure because not everyone knows that like you and I do. He didn't hire Jim Horroball, but there was issues between him and Jim Horroball. And if you talked to a bunch of the media and Pete you you probably know this better than I do, that Trent was part of getting him
out of there. Correct. He hired Jim Thomasoola. Jim Thomas does not like him one bit, and I've heard I've heard the same thing that Jim thomasoul is not a fan. He hired Jim Thomas, suil fired Jump Jim Thomas Dole. He then hired Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly did not work out, and I heard there was a major friction between Chim Kelly. But I mean and understandably a so, because Jim Kelly could have friction with anybody. But that's a whole lot. And I'm not the way. I'm not blaming Trent for this.
I'm not saying that this is all transfor I'm just saying that's the way it was, that's the reality of that's the reality of it. Then he comes to here, he's second in command, Then he gets then he gets promoted and in the while second in command big big from what I heard, big proponent of Urban Meyer. So that's his higher Essentially, he pushed for it. So he pushed for Irban meyer failure, his draft and his free agency because that's him failure. So why not just start
over again? Well, I mean because I'm gonna be consistent here because I've never done it and I will never do it on this show. I'm not gonna fire or hire anybody, um, and I'm fine with you doing it. You have a different role than I do. I will say this, The decision has to be made and it needs to be crystal clear whether he's going to be the gym or not. I think that greatly impacts how you hire a coach. I think it impacts who will come be the head coach here, and so that that
needs to be done before you start the process. Because Daniels doesn't coming here to work for Trent Baulky. I don't know that. I don't know if jo is gonna come here anyway there anyways, but he isn't coming there and work for Trent Bulky. I'll tell you that right now. He's not. He didn't go to Indy. What to Andy for a day isn't left. He didn't go to eat. But the reason he didn't go to Indy supposedly was because there were issues with the interview and he thought
it over and his family didn't want to go. That's different. Look when your family doesn't want to go, you don't go. By the way, For the record, Tony, didn't you try to fire Haze on this show one time? Yes, that's a good point. I did you know, Carlin um Which is funny because Hayes is one of my favorite people and the meeting jacksonal media. Um. But I do like giving Hayes a hard time and he ticked me off that day, and if he does it again, I'll fire him again on the air. And who have I fired?
I don't fire people on the show. You fire Urban, just recently fired Urban, You fired Doug, you fired Days, fired everybody. Nice to have it's nice to have that. I did fire hay Yes, that's a good point, JP. I don't fire coaches. I fired media members. You know, it's just frustrated because they need to get it right. This is an organization that's been through misery and misery and misery, and they thought they got it right. They didn't get it right. They didn't get it right. They
blew it. They hired the wrong guys. So get it right and structure and organization matters. Who is he going to lean on? Who will he listen to? I don't know, but this is right now where we sit as an organization. We have had nine out of ten seasons since he's been the owner. And it goes before him too. I'm not just talking about Shot, so it was bad before he got here. I'm not putting this all on Shot by any means. And I said it all along. What's frustrated me. Shot has done a lot of great things
as owner for this team. He has stabilized the franchise. There's no longer talk about moving to another city. He has invested in it. He wants success. He has done so many good things. The problem is right now it has been so bad for nine out of ten years Double Didget losing seasons in nine of the ten years that people are forgetting that. His legacy is now tied to what is on the field and it's not good. But he but the difference this time is he has
a franchise quarterback. He has a guy who can be great. You have to get it right now, and if you get it right, you can flip this quicker than you ever had in the past. They have the quarterback. They have money, the right guy at quarterback and an owner willing to spend, and they're building a new facility and they have a passion fan base. It's a great job. It's a great job. And and look, do you know what they need? Tony Mark Lamping has been very successful
on that side of the Jaguars, very successful. They need that guy on the football side, and they haven't had it. Well my point and I agree Mark has been amazing. I mean, did a lot of the stuff I can just talk about. The business side is responsible for undershot um, so there's no doubt about it. We've done great there. My point is on the football side, you have to get it right this time because otherwise you are and
I said this during the season. All that matters right now is you have to build this thing around your franchise quarterback and Pete, all the things you said, Yes you have Trevor Lawrence, Yes you have money, Yes you have new facilities, Yes you have a great city. Yes you have fan base, Yes you have non no state income tax. There's so many positives. None admit matters, Pete, None of it matters if you don't get the right
higher I get it so get the right guys. We'll take your time out, but for the for the record, but that's why I'm talking about Pete this next two weeks. And I think the first step is that is you have to determine what you're gonna do with trend. You have to my opinion, nobody keeps the guillotine sharper than Pete Prisco for the record, that's for sure. Um. Jaguars Gave Day Radio is brought to you by Vice Start Union,
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I have not had any yet today. Our topic today, how concerned are you over the running back position at the moment after everything that's happened the last day. I'm concerned because yeah, I'm concerned because it was one of the positions. I thought you could at least like check the box and say, Okay, we don't have spend too much time in the offseason on because you have to spend so much time in other places offensively. In my opinion, I mean, you gotta build the receiving corps. You need
a tight end. UMU is it maybe that Dan Arnold and can be that matchup issue. I think you got to build the interior of rofensive line. And so I was hoping that running back would be the one position like, Okay, check the box, quarterback, check the box, left tackle, check the box. Were good. Um, that's not the case now with James Robinson. I don't know what I don't. I have no idea what Travis e t n is. I have no idea. I didn't see anything in training camp
that jumped off the page and like wow. But in fair it is Fred Taylor's first training camp. A lot of people were saying the same thing about him, like he couldn't even beat out here. He didn't. He did not beat out James Stewart. James Stewart was the starting running back until he blew his knee out, and Fred was not getting many touches. And now we all know what the career Fred Taylor had once he got on
the field. So maybe that's Travis et N. I don't know, but there's question marks now that I didn't think I was gonna have because that I was comfortable James Robinson for sure being a guy I can count on. That's not the case now. Yeah, that's it's bad, I mean, and more so than anything, I feel bad for James right. Like I said earlier, I just think it's a tough blow for the kid. It's hard to come back from that when you're running back. I mean, people do it,
don't get me wrong, but that's a tough injury. Um, you know, but you've made a good point or something. I think he did, Tony. Medicine has come a long way, and that used to knock you out for a whole year bare minimum, so like an A c L used to and it's not the case anymore. So, um, you know. Maybe I don't think he'll be back, Maybe he's a pop guy for the first part of the season or
something next year. But that also means you don't have a running back unless E. T N is all the way back, and we don't know where he's gonna be. I mean, that's a he had a that's a major injury too for a running back, and Liz Frank puts her injury. You mess with the feet ankles of a running back that worries you that Liz Frank's no joke. Um, So your your question, your point is correct, Pete. I
have big concerns at the running back position. I think it's something you have to address in the free agency for the middle of the draft now. And that's not something I would want to do because you have so many positions to fill. Or here's a whole idea, get a system. We're just working around it, like the forty Niners. Whoever runs the football. Yeah, I mean I have to go back to the days when you guys played the
Broncos back in the day. They didn't matter. They threw Derek Level back there and he went for over a hundred and the fourth quarter gets you guys one game in the fourth quarter. But you know what I mean to do, you get it too if you run that kind of scheme or something there back itself. If you have a guy that can make a cut here and there, like you said about together guy doesn't cut, then you
it'll work. Whoever it is. How many guys have the forty Niners rolled through in the last couple of years that run the football to run it well, well the best one they have. But okay, but Elijah Mitchell, who they found in late rounds was running while until he got hurt. I agree that Jeff Wilson when he goes in sometimes I mean back to Matt Brito when he was there. I mean, those guys all run the football.
But my point is, now you have to spend a fourth pish six seventh round draft picks get a guy, right, I mean, and you're hoping you didn't have to do that. You probably would have had to get using at some point. You had to use the back anyway just to do it, that's sure. So that was Keeping It Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert mndab opened up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mondavi. We have a boatload of social media questions today, Okay, inquiring minds want
to know about this Jaguars team. We'll get some answers when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday afternoon, j P Shadrick, Pete Priscoe, Tony Vaselly. The Jags lost to the Jets yesterday, seven straight losses for the Jags and two and thirteen record two games to This week, the Jags will face the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, the place they've never won.
And then I got a watch, were coming back? Who are you blowing kisses? I'm going miss that. You blow kisses? Dude, I don't know. I gotta contact, I gotta hair of my contact lens that he's gotta count his contact. He's blood kisses, kisses the people kissing? Let me keep eating. Wow, No, I said enough, This is more entertaining than seven straight losses. I'll say that. Let's get to social media questions number. We gotta bunch of them. Ought to be good at
the you've all special? How much of the old line can be fixed this offseason? Well, the whole thing is gonna be big. Um. Well, okay, you're gonna you already said you're tagging camera Robinson bare minimum, right, I am, yeah, okay, So tag no, well gone, Linder gone it was bad yesterday. Of all of him, he was probably one of the worst ones. Right guard. I mean, I think you're keeping Bards, You're keeping will Richardson, you're keeping Shatley. Um, so you
keeping all the backups. I think you end up keating John Taylor. One thing I would do, well, he's not expensive, No, not one thing I would do Pete And I just don't know who's like making these decisions down there now. I think I put Joan Taylor on the bench. You're gonna put walk a little out there and say you're playing right tack on two weeks someone to see what you can do, or you said that last week, and I would consider it myself. Know what else, Hey, Nora,
you're gonna sit, I'm putting walk a little. You're gonna play left card consider that too. He's got to play somewhere the last two weeks. Maybe maybe he's the left guard this week. If nor Well's out, so he like a man and barches on the COVID list, right be off by next way he's on it. Well, the question, I mean, what we don't know is BArch backstead or unback stating because he's not if he's unvacstaated. He's there
for ten days no matter what. So okay, So if he's out and nor Well's out, then a little almost has to start a left guard. I would start him no matter what, Pete, I want to see what he can do. I agree, I agree, and and so okay, So offensive line, one shore guy back in his spot. If you want to tag him, that's it. I'm tagging him. That's a lot of new faces will be on the roster next year. That's the question. Who's on the roster next year? What do you mean? Who's the roster from
which guys are coming back? Um? I think Cam bart little, I think Jowan Taylor's coming back. Um, he said he's been up and down, he's done something good, so bad. Um Shotley's back, Um, Casey new Dumans back. So Cans Uh, Norwell, Linda all gone. I don't know about Can. I don't know. It's his contract up, I think so, and I don't know what not. He makes too much money we have in knee injury. And I he didn't play well. He didn't play well before he got hurt, but he played
so well last Year's my point. He did. I'd love to have lender back. Linda just can't stay healthy. At some point you gotta move on from that. Yeah, Can is a free agent after the season. Yeah, so he's gone. Yeah. My guess is those three are gone. I guess so they need to find they need to find mom as a linement. That's hard to do in the NFL where
there aren't many. That's right, that's a struggle. Our next question social by the way, which means you might not be able to do it, Pete, you might have to bring those dugs backs at Devil X Jaguar x a D two year in and year out? Why are the Jaguars so undisciplined? Silly penalties, drop passes, can't get lined up? I could go on. I just want them to look confident and be competitive. Is that too much to ask?
I don't know about year and year out? I would love one like fans do this, Pete and picture I um or people like make these general statements over years and years. I don't remember, like and maybe it's the case. Maybe Devil X Jaguars two has a better sense than I knew. Um that the silly penalty I don't remember last year that like they were a bad team last year, I don't remember. Silly penalties are undisciplined play last year, they're just bad Uma teams Bay he was poorly coach.
May have a lot of penalties. And that's that's what's gonna say. When you're a bad team, simply get more penalties and make the mistakes and you're you're in the inferior team and you look like you don't belong and and drop passes are a result of this year. This year is bad bad receivers. They're not good. They're not good. I mean, ideally, Trentwell right now is probably their best receiver and he should be a four. He wasn't on the team middle of the season right in best case
scenarios before, he looks like a fourth receiver. That's what he is. He's the best receiver right now. Did you there was a play yesterday where they did actually cross. Do you remember this play and they almost ran into each other again? Did you remember it? Tony? I can't do it. Let's go to the next question. Marpe Jones like having like sides one pizza wants all these picks and rubs. That's what you get at Cardinal Thomas. Do
you play the right way, damn it. Do you have any thoughts on rushing quarterbacks faking going out of bounds? We touched on this a minute ago, but I think we all came to the conclusion it was just a nice run by Zach Wilson. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't think. I still think. Here we go, pezz flip flopping again, the flipper. Here comes Flippers. JP. I haven't watched. I haven't watching the defensive tape yet. You can't tell off the TV tape. I'll watch it on the defensive tape.
I'll tell you that he's the flipper. When I watched it, initially I thought he'd faked it. I thought it was the Kenny Pickett thing, only on the sideline. You know, they shouldn't, Okay, if they had blasted him on the sideline where they have got the penalty, if he was in bounds, he shouldn't have at least. And guess what if you're Rudy Ford. If you go take the right angle and you cut him off in front of him, that's a whole another story of taking the right angle.
Somebody chance to get that. Well, here's another thought too. Then you forced it. You forced him to make the right decision, which is going out about So it is it worth just popping him one time so he doesn't do it again? So I think about it next time. If I'm rooting for the next time, like we played the Jets and Zach Wilson, I'm going to take his head off and say, Okay, dude, he made me look bad and I got okay that, Tony, Why is that? Why are you gonna take his head off? Well? Because
what did you wrong? According to you did nothing wrong. I agree he did nothing wrong. I'm just saying, as a player, you want to try to make up because you look bad, and you can say I'm gonna take it off. Not because he made him look big, because he looked like he might be going out of bounds and he slowed up. That's all what you're saying. He makes all up. You look at it. He never slowed up moving along. Why are you shaking your head, Yoki,
doke them a little bit. That's okay, it's part of it. Yeah, that's fine. Next question, Tony, I take his head off next time I saw? Yeah, I agree. Us can go one all of a sudden. With Jayrb's injury and e TNS come back on certain running back looks like a serious need heading into the offseason. How devastating is it to add yet another position of need for this depleted roster. Yeah, they already had a long list. Yeah, we already talked
about this. Well, you know what, Adrian Peterson had probably been Willy Place wherever you can get all thirty two teams in the league. Let me on, bellow, not good, not good. Get the right offensive system in there, and you can plug in the running back. I'm telling you, But what is the highest round you would take a
running back? Pete? Just in general? Well, I mean if if I was doing the draft and Fred Taylor was coming out and I get him in the second round, take second round, though, you you're still not a first round running back guy. Now the game is involved. So my friend, if Fred Taylor played today's game, you could split him out wide. He catch catch sixty five passes, So yeah, I consider him in the first round. Somebody
like that, What about Jonathan Taylor? How good would Jonathan Taylor be if he was running behind the Jaguars offensive line? How about Derrick Henry? How good would he be running behind the Jaguars offensive line? Derrick Henry is good behind any offensive line. They changed that thing over and they're
not great at Tennessee. Yeah, I'd probably take one of those two in the first round back end, but if I had, Let's put it this way, if I had a pass rush problem, which I think the Jaguars do, I'm not taking the running back over the pass rushing. I agree with that. Next question social media rolling along today at Nick Pope Joy Is Matt Joins Matt Jones going to run for one hundred yards next week? I would guess no. But yeah, Matt Jones was not very
good about speak against the Bills. No, he was exposed a little bit in that game, and I hate he's a jackal kid, but they just everybody had him in the Hall of Fame. And that's slowed after yesterday. That slowed a little bit. That's still nothing down the field from him much, right, Pete, No, not at all. It was bad. He was bad yesterday. At one point I think he was five for eighteen. He was bad. That's not good, not good, not good coach, not good coach.
Next question social media bringing it today at Eric M. Davenport, Trevor looked as comfortable as he has since the bye week. What was done differently scheme wise that made him look like who we've been expecting to see from a number one overall? And is it sustainable? There was no pass for us. You're playing against the worst defense in the NFL, who had seven starters out because of COVID. If he was a pion catch, it was a seven on seven. That's not good, Like like, be balanced. I'm not gonna
kill Trevor before the way the season's gone. I still think he's a great He gonna be a franchise quarterback and be really good. I'm also not gonna say everything's fixed because what they did against the Jets. And by the way, that's the worst defense there were scoring defense. There were without seven starters and they still only managed one. And by the way, receivers were actually open yesterday. That's how bad that defense was. Gosh, well, they don't get
open right in there. Next question social media Twitter today at b for Brendan, what did you guys think of Walker Little's performance as a slat wide receiver? Could that role be expanded in the future giving our receiving lows and current depth to tackle? Hashtag for hashtag four to six A to B no more doing this. By the way, I wonder, Pete, maybe you know this. You've been around a while. How many times in league history have there been two touchdowns by offensive lineman in the same game.
Pretty amazing? You saw that, right, I mean, I don't think that's happened. I do know this, Dak Prescott was the first time that a guy is throwing a touchdown past to a running back, of wide receiver, a tight end the offensive line. That's crazy spreading the wealth um. Of course you will Richardson recovered. You never had a ball thrown to you, did you No, I was never
even eligible. Tom didn't do it. I blame him. Were you a tight end in high school to Yes, I think I could have averaged like catches a year if they wouldn't give me the opportunity. Yes, you're a big, old lumbering body coming down. They would have no way. I wonder if he had like two or three touchdown receptions, he'd already be in the hall. Pete, what do you think, Well, well, no, we'll know if he's making the finalist on Thursday, right.
They cut it down this week. Yeah, there's I hope both you and Fred make it the finalist and Leroy Butler. I was on radio in in Milwaukee the other day with Leroy, I said, would be a great, a great um ceremony if Tony, Leroy and and Fred all got into the same year, I'd be fantastic. It would be fun, be a heck of a week in Canton, for sure. A couple of questions left on that Twitter today. This is at lacks or five six for Pete and Tony. If you're the GM, what are you doing with the
first overall pick? Pick a pass rusher or trade back? Depends what what am I gonna get for trading back? Right? If I can trade back and get the Giants to first round picks, I'm trading back. I'm trading I get. If I get two first round picks from the Eagles, I'm traded back. If I yeah, if I get if you get two first round picks, your trade back. It depends what I mean? Are those I don't want to go all the way back to the end of the first round. He would take one in the ten and
one and one in the top ten. One in the Yeah, one one has to be in the top ten, is my point. Yeah, I would try. I would trade back if I could trade back, I'm trading back. I don't think there's a I mean, don't get me wrong. Hutchinson and Thibodeaux are both really good players. But I still think there's so many knees on this team that you have to address. Address But who was the pete? Who's going up again? Who was gone? Nobody? There's no one giving a top ten in another first rounder to go
up to number one. No, not without a quarterback in the spot. Teams only do that for the quarterback. Right, there's no quarterback, so they're gonna be stuck picking one. So who are you picking? I don't know. I mean, I've seen glimpses of ball. It's either gonna be to me. To me, it will be Hutchinson or Thibodeau one or the other. You don't like to tackle from Alabama? Oh, he's good, really good. But I think you can get a lineman. And you drafted a line in the second round.
Its supposed to be started next year. Well that's what you have to find out in the last two weeks. We gotta play him. I'm with you. I'm with you, Tony. I agree. One more social media question This is from a UCF underscore Jaguar. Why do guys like Mike Mayock and Lewis redde goot GM interviews but Pete doesn't. Is Pete not as smart as he leads on to believe? Good point? I think that must be a secretly dumb person. Well, you know what, let me think Mike mack hasn't done
so well? Has he? Aren't? They did they win the other day? They haven't been in the playoffs. He hired Gruden? Where they he was part of the Gruden thing? He didn't hire And what about lou Riddick. He was part of the He was part of the dream team in Philadelphia. Hey, okay, here's all you need to know about Mike Mayock. He drafted Cleveland Farrell when he when he could head that
what's overall? That's that's fourth overall that draft, they had three first round picks they draft to Cleveland Ferrell, Josh Jacobs, and who was the third one? He was one other one and it didn't work out. Josh Jacob is a good player. He's a circlusable runner. W the service of a runner. Do you when you do you stop? When Josh Jacobs going, Oh, my god, what a player. No, who was the other picking that draft? Was? It wasn't
Johnathan Abram? Was it? I don't remember. It was a quarter like drafted him too, and he's not any good A little bit in that. Let's see, Farrell was at number four overall. That's the mystery. And I heard from people, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, I heard from people that they were all pushing for Devin White and that was John Ruden going rogue on Cleveland Farrell. So defensive Mike Mayhon, it was Jacobs, and then it was Jonathan Abram, the
safety from Mississippi State. Yeah, so okay, you gotta bust with the one at four. Jacobs is a serviceable running back, nothing special, and Jonathan Abrams the box safety that draft I love. Well, you know that's what side of it. What would you pick Pete? What did you What would you have picked then Pete? I wouldn't. I wouldn't have taken Cleveland Farrell. Everybody knew he was an end. It had no speed, no twitch. It was easy to see
he was a big end. Plus. Should we go through the history of those clums and ends, remember gains atoms and all those bus back. No, no, and I would never take a box safety in this error ever, just like the Seattle traded picts from Jamalo Adams, he's a box safety. What are these guys doing? Do they not know? The game is an air game. It's an air game. Now you don't take box safety's thanks for all the social media questions today. I think we hit most basis
in this edition. I'm smarter than Mike Mayo. I was. That's what I was waiting for. I mean this at clothing line and that's all I mean, that's all. You know. He puts smarter than Louis Riddick and Mike Mayo. You just ask him, he'll tell you. We're back with the Look around the NFL and just a moment's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Well back Jaguar's Happy Hour, our final few minutes we always go around the National
Football League. Let's take a look at week number sixteen. Thursday, the Titans will win over the forty Niners twenty to seventeen. A couple of Saturday games, Packers over the Browns twenty four two, the Colts over the Cardinals twenty two sixteen. So the Colts keep pace at least in the a f C. South Falcons beat the Lions. Yesterday, the Buccaneers
hammered the Panthers thirty two to six. The Bengals with an incredible day by Joe Burrow one of four touchdown passes Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty and the Bengals radio network are already for the shotgun snap Joe has the ball drops back three steps. He fired his
cought by Tea Higgins touchdown Bengals has. He ran a post pattern cut position inside of Darryl Worley at Halls in Burrows fourth touchdown pass up the game five hundred twenty five passing yards, the fourth best passing day in league history. Peak, it was incredible. Watch now. The Ravens were down a bunch of guys and they're banged up in the secondary. But that Bengal's offense is really good. It's fun to watch and he plays with that swagger. Look.
Wake Martin dam made the crack about not putting him in the Hall of Fame, and you know, you know he didn't like it. I think Joe Burrow has it. Um. He's gonna be the real deal for a long time, and it's hard to believe that Jacksonville led them by what twenty at one point in that game. Yeah, I mean, and then you know, then whatever happened after the game happened and that was the end of that. But um, I just think that Burrow is the real deal. I mean,
that's a good team. They're gonna be dangerous in the playoffs. To play the Chiefs this week. By the way, there'll be a test this one. We'll find out if they're for real this week. Right the Texans are. They don't look now, they're on a winning streak. They beat the Charge one to nine, the Rams over the Vikings thirty to twenty three. The Buffalo Bills going to Foxboro and get a big win on the road. Josh Allen to the tight end late John Murphy on w g R
Sports Radio five fifty in Buffalo. Second and goal from the two. Josh Allen gonna go shotgun, death snapped, keeps it himself. Josh flings at the Dawson Knocks touchdown, touchdown, Buffalo. They're headed to the exits now here in Foxboro. The Bill score a touchdown. Josh Allen the Dawson knocks for the touchdown. That's your guy, Pete Josh Allen. Look, that was a proven game. People still had doubts about them
and still have doubts about that team. They went in there dominated that thing from start to finish, and and it wasn't just on offense. Defensively they were outstanding. I remember this was the team that got pushed around in that game, but they had different guys were missing in that first meeting when the wind and all that. So that's a The Bills are gonna win a division. Now they play Atlanta at home and the Jets at home.
They're not losing again, so they win the division. So but if if both teams went out, the Bills you win, Yes, based on the conference division, Yeah, because because they're not losing that home to Atlanta and not and not losing at home to the Jets. Well they have the Patriots, have the Jags and then miamis Yeah, we'll get to Miami is a tough game. But is New England in the playoffs. If they win one of the next two
they get the ten wins, Yeah, they'll be in. They're in the Yeah, that's right, I mean, I mean, let's get serious. Here, Tony. You got a big game this week. Come on, like the Jags are going to Foxboro the Eagles. You are guaranteed at JP still standing by it, well guaranteed. The locks gone out because the Jags lost to the Jets. Yeah, but you can still say you got three out of four. You're not standing by it either. You don't you you don't you know at all? Double down, I'm gonna lock it.
Oh God, don't do that well, Baselly locks always fail mine only three out of four times. All right, baby, don't get baited in by Pete. I've done it too many times. You can get baited to lock something. That's a bad lock. You just got bamboo. Only got two opportunities left to lock something this season. Eagles over the Giants ten, Thank you, Joe, The Bears over the Seahawks and the Snow four. The Chiefs blew out the Steelers, starting with an early Clyde Edward Hilaire touchdown Mitch Holters
on one of six. Five the Wolf and the Chiefs Radio Network. The Chiefs go Giant, Giant, Giant because Hellic, Grundy and blythe and they only have eight offensive lamb in eligible and seven are in right now, they try it on a push left side, break it up, this side, touch down, Chansas City clide. Edwards Hilaire was hit in the backfield, was not d and angles near side and the Chief's gonna touchdown for their first drive of the game. Pete. They just beat the hell out of the Steelers, and
I'll say Big Ben just doesn't look even close. Well the team, that team isn't any good. I mean defensively they got pushed around too. They can't stop the run. Edwards Hilaire, by the way, I got hurt again. He's what he looks like. He's gonna be one of those guys that's always hurt. Um. Just when they get going, they put guys in there. Williams went in and ran it, Gore ran in and ran it. I mean they can
run the ball. They're they're back and they're playing good defense. Yes, they're the best team in the a C. Don't you think right now it's gonna be Chiefs, Bills, box Packers. Yes, that's the final four. The Raiders over the Broncos. They took the lead in the third quarter. Britain Musburger on the Compass Media Las Vegas Raiders radio network. Barbara now will be right next to car first down and goal from the five opening series of the second half. Now
it's Barbara turned daylight dives over the top. Anybody signal? Oh, signal yet? Check? Put Baby Vegas touchdown. I'm like you, Brent, I didn't see a referee signal and anything. Just there just walking back there. Interesting call there. The Raider is gonna win though. Pete in the division waiting for the hands in the air. Yeah, that's a big win for the Raiders. Now they got a big game. Now. They played a pseudo playoff game this week at Indie. That's
a tough game. It's not a great matchup for the Raiders. Wait, Indy wants to play and run the ball. Indie is that danger team in the postseason because they're physical. They played the defense right. Cowboys over Washington, they found he won the division. Then they went out and beat Scenes in fifty six to fourteen. Are you scared of Dallas moving ahead of here? Dallas is the one team. Here's
what Dallas is. If they get the lead, they're gonna be so dangerous because they can rush the pastor with so many different guys. Now, you got large back. You got Gregory, got Parsons. They rush the pass and so they gotta but they gotta play with the leagu because they're not a big defense and get pushed around a little bit in the run game. What's with your lighting outside? You know? Helectri fill his mother some What is that? Well? I started the show out on the porch looking at
the ocean. Sometimes I'm staying in the condos. We're building a new house and they just started getting dark night. Just looked at my camera. I'm like, oh, it's really dark. So I just my phone and myself. Hey, can you tell us some ghost stories? Unbelievable. I'm trying to just I'm trying to produce and everything over here. You're doing a great job, Tony. Time for Monday Night football. After starting one and seven, the Miami Dolphins have reeled off
six straight wins. They hold their playoff destiny in their hands. They could move into the seventh scene in the a f C Playoffs via the fifth timebreaker. For the win tonight, the seven and seven Dolphins had to the big easy. They'll face rookie quarterback Ian Book and the seven and seven New Orleans Saints with back up Blake portals who you got tonight in the Superdome? What's your evaluation to that? Tony, what's your evaluation to that? It was okay, it was
better than last week. Last week was so bad it was embarrassing. He rebounded a little bit. It's better than your lighting, better than your lighting that you started well, you started well. You kind of figured that he didn't finish strong. He didn't finish Who you got the Superdome? Pete answer the question, I have the Saints. I think Sean Payton relishes this. You know what I did the other day, I went back and wats Ian booked preseason tape to see what he was like. I liked them,
and I liked them. They're in book. Well, well tonight I think I'll take the Saints. Remember the question they asked earlier is why Pete do have a GM job? And he dummer than and read it. Yes, the answer is he's dummer. It's the Dolphins all day, all night in the big easy takes them to town. Do you have it? Pete Prisco, have a good one. See you guys. Pete Frisco out of here. Tony Boselli is in the dark for Joe Fortunato and Brent Reber, our entire crew.
I'm J. P. Shadrick. The Jaguars are trying to staff a seven game losing skid next week in New England. Wants you guys on the COVID list, of course, checking us out tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon. Rather with Jaguars Happy Hour that's at four o'clock on tint Excel and then the Jaguars Coaches Show at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
