Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 13

Titans twenty Jaguars nothing. Urban Meyer taking some heat again after some weekend reports offense was shut out in the game, the defense fault the best they could. Draft talk begins. Because the Jaguars has been officially a liminated from the postseason, social media questions will go around the NFL. In Week four teen, Let's review the Titans over the Jaguars twenty to nothing, the Jaguars second five game losing streak of

the season. The jack shut out for the first time since two thousand nine, held under two hundred yards for the third time this season and now in back to back games, and the worst part of it a franchise record low eight rushing yards on a franchise record low

eight rushing attempts, seven of those by running backs. This performance after the weekend report by Tom Pallisero of NFL Media of discontent and tension boiling over the coaches, players, and head coach Urban Meyer, and then Urban after the game on his conversations with owner Shot Khan and Urban's belief on getting this turned around. I assured him that

we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast, you know, that depends on Once again, I still think there's good pieces you watch, don't you watch out there today Myles Jack and that defense and some of those kids. Uh Roy smoot, I mean I was those guys are playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it.

So what's the answer. Start leaking information or some nonsense. Now, No, that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again, I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that. I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No, let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy very little my time. And if if there is a source,

that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds. If there's some source that's doing it, that's Urban Meyer yesterday, Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco with us now here on Jaguars Happy Hour, Good afternoon, Tony, good afternoon. Well they're is a source to be clear, I mean, let's be clear. I mean, and I appreciate what Urban said, but Tom pal Sero is a national writer that's pretty well respected.

And Jason locking For which I know everyone can't stand in Jacksonville, but popular guy, but is also we're so Tom Pella Serlo with the NFL dot Com, Jason locking For with CBS Sports, which is Pete's company, UM employer. Like, these are respectable guys that typically and I'll let Pete speak to this, don't report stuff unless they have confirmed sources in a building. So it's either coming from the building or it's coming through an agent that got it

from their client in the building. So there's sources. I mean, there's I mean, now Urban has said the whole thing is not true about the Marvin Jones. He said that today again in his press conference. Um, and I'm not here to say who's right, who's wrong, who's telling the truth. I mean, I'm just telling you what's out there is and so he's denying it. Tom Pella Sero doubled down. The bottom line is this, in my opinion, like this thing is not working right now. I mean you are.

You're regressing as an offense, your first overall pick is regressing as a player. You have scored nine points a games since the Bay. You have talked about wanting to rush the ball and you ran it eight times. They had six rushes JP and I don't because I heard Urban today and I disagree with them. Well, the game gets out of hand, No, no, no, no, it was a ten nothing game in the middle of the third quarter and you would run the ball six times. That doesn't line up. And so, I mean, those are the

things that are going on. We'll talk about it all today. But it's uh, there's not a lot of happiness in Paradise right now. Pete Prisco, good afternoon to you. What is up? Look, their journalists they don't stuff up, They're not making it up. Um, I mean, look, I just happened to look back at a tweet in August and from the ten ten xcel account. I just found it. It said Pete Prisco is hearing players aren't thrilled with urban Meyer. I mean that was a long time ago.

I didn't make it up, okay, And to say that journalists or whoever make it up is ridiculous. Your your reputation is on the line. There's stuff there. There's plenty of stuff, and I've mentioned some of it on here. Okay. We we've mentioned plenty of it on here. I've mentioned plenty of it on CBS Sports HQ. Over the last four months, there have been incidences, there have been issues, players griping, moan and grown it. Okay, that's happened. For him to say he's not concerned about it, Okay, maybe

he isn't. That's the same as Tom Coughlin used to say he wasn't concerned about any of it, and then he can complain about all of it. They of course they're concerned about it. Um, that's it's the way of life. It is. And I've had many of talk with coaches. I said this to him, I go, why would you care so much about it. Why And a lot of it is, you know, their reputation. I get it, but it's not made up. Let's be real. It's not made up. So how can you prove it's made up? You can't.

If you go ask Marvin Jones if it's if he had that incident an issue with Urban, what's he gonna say? Yes, I did, then Urban's lion. No I didn't. Then Pallasaro like it looks bad. So I just I think there's where there's smoke, there's fire, there's it's a situation in Jacksonville. You can't deny that. And Urban, if he was truthful, he would know that he knows that there's nothing warm and fuzzy with him and his coaches and his players. It just isn't now. Whether he can fix that, who knows.

Who knows, And whether Sean Khan wants him to fix it, we don't know. Maybe he does, Maybe he thinks he can fix it, maybe he thinks he can change him. But like this much, I know Trevor Lawrence is rotting away before our eyes, and I think it's up to Trevor. This is something that I think which should be should happen Trevor Lawrence, who is the franchise. He is the friend. It's not Urban Meyer. It's Trevor Lawrence. He's the franchise.

And if there eroting his skills and letting all his talent rot away, then or then he needs to go to shot Kan and his agent. They need to go to shot Con and they need to sit down and say, you know what, this isn't working. If they want him out, then that's on them. We don't decide who gets fired. We don't. That's not our job. Our job is to evaluate it and on the outside looking in, and I'm not in every meeting, and neither is Tony or neither of you j P. It's just not working. It's a disaster.

There's no other way to describe it. And here's the worst thing about it. I've been around that team since nineteen nine for and even Ben before that, when Wayne Weaver was the owner in Touchdown Jacksonville. I was the first guy was around those people all my life. I was around Tom Coughin day in and day out. He

was an obsession of mine. And I've been around that building for a long time and I know that fan base and everybody mocks the fan base, which is a joke because there's a passionate fan base there, you know, nationally, Oh there's a who goes to their games. Let me, you guys know, and the generation that's now, they're now, they're die hard fans. They grew up with it. They didn't sleep and go to school when they lost the championship game in ninety nine. They're passionate as hell and

they care. And I never have ever seen it this bad among the fan base ever, in the worst years they've ever had, It's never been this bad. And that's the problem because I think the tickets are not gonna get sold, and that's when you have a problem. They're the most distrustled I've ever seen him. And you guys live in town now. I don't, but I talked to a lot of people, and I read a lot of stuff, and I hear a lot of things. This is the

worst the fan base has ever been. And it's unfair to them because now there's a reputation out there, Oh well, they won't go buy tickets. It's a bad fan base. No, it's not. It's a great fan base. It's a young fan base. The Foo Foo wanted cheese crowd that went in the nineties, they're gone. But now it's a die hard fan base and they need to be heard and if they want changes, I think that the people need to pay attention. That's Pete Prisco, CBS Sports. Well, I

mean it's it's frustrating. It's frustrating for all sides. Absolutely frustrating. The frustrated. Sure, the coaches are frustrated, the players are frustrated. I mean Urban said something I agree with, like when you lose, it's it's it's maddening you put this much time and effort in Like he's right, but right now I tend to agree with Pete. Where they're smoked, there's fire. There's a lot of a lot of chirping going on,

and there's some sources. There are there's somebody in the building that is feeding the It's probably more than one, because typically you're not going to write something that um explicit without confirment sources and what extent it happened to, I don't know. I'm not here. I just know this. You are two and eleven. Your offense is atrocious. They

scored zero. You have no no identity. I can't tell you what you're trying to do the fact that we ran the ball eight times last day yesterday is unacceptable in my opinion. It's unacceptable. You have a struggling quarterback, you have a offensive receiving corps that struggles to get open by themselves one on one or two. You're have an offensive line who's struggling in the passing game right now, but you have to run the ball. And they did not. They didn't do it, they didn't try to do it.

The run game is a is something that where you have to be committed to it and understand as long as you're within you know, shout and distance and ten nothing.

You're in shouting distance in the middle of the third quarter because your defense is playing good football, like you can trust them, you have to be running it and you have to be okay with three yards, two yards maybe no game, Hey I'll bust a five, get an eight, like you have to keep going and you're like, it's okay to run on second and ten when your defense is playing the way they were. But having eight carries in a game that was ten nothing in the middle

of the third that's just not very good. It's not well thought out. And that's my struggle. That's where you start getting frustrated. And I think we're the fan base and you watched the game and I call the games. It's like, what are we doing, what's the game plan, what's your identity? What are we trying to do to help six? And it's been this JP. I've been consistent with this from the first day when we threw it

fifty one times against Houston. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that your best player, James Robinson, and you're not feeding them and working through him. And they've yet to do it. And we went through the carries a couple weeks ago. I don't think they have a great plan. I don't understand it. I don't know what they're trying to do. All right, here's a question for you both. Can they can urban and can the coaching staff and players pull something together in the final month. We haven't

seen much of that lately. Honestly, there's no evidence that tells me they can when they can do it. There's no evidence. Offensively, they're they're going back, they've been, they're getting worse, and and the defense actually played well and hard on Sunday, so that's a good sign. And here's the thing, Pete, Like, I know what Joe Cole wants to do. Like this is who they are. They're gonna

try to play good run defense. They're gonna blitz the you know what out of you, and they're gonna try to pressure the quarterback with more than four because they can't do it for consistently. So he's gonna come after you. He's gonna bring the Nickel blitz. He's gonna bring Race Shawan Jenkins down. He's gonna come after you. He's druin Mike scrape with Will said, he's in a blitz, Miles. I mean he's coming at you like I know, and like he is. They've been consistently saying that all years.

And are they perfect? No, but but are they are they good enough? Like you give up twenty points in this league and you're getting up ten at the middle of the third quarter, you should be in it. And Urban said it, and I agree with Urban than that, And so at least I know what they're trying to do. And I think they're gonna keep on fighting. And I give Urban and his coaching staff because you have to give him credit if you're gonna also criticize another areas

they are playing hard on defense. Still they're they're attacking, they're trying things, and their special teams are good. They're atrocious an offense, they're atrocious. I no other way to say. And here's the other thing about about this whole thing. You know, we're you know, we're not gonna when you sit here and say, okay, what are the solutions? Is it the change coordinators? Is the fire of the offensive staff as they get rid of this guy, get rid

of that guy. Let's just say, for the sake of the argument, that urban Meyer came back for next year and the offensive staff didn't. That's gonna cost you a boatload of money to replace that offensive staff. If those guys don't get jobs, you have to pay them. And then if they do get jobs, you're gonna to pay the offsets. So you're gonna cost it's gonna cost you a boatload of money to replace the top staff. And here's the other thing. Who's gonna want to come work there?

Well that but Pete, that's a great one, and we want to talk about that later, Pete, because you bring him a great point there. And I'm sorry to cut you off, but I can tell JP's look at the clock and we're about yeah, he's looking at the clock. Because like, let's just take what we've all the noise that's come out here and by the way, it's been

coming out of here since October. If this isn't like all of a sudden breaking news, I mean you've heard the murmuring and the like questions and the controversy and national media get and let me tell you and Pete correct me if I'm wrong. The way national media gets off is either a relationship with the coach, relationship with the players are direct from there, but more times than not,

it's through the agents. Because the relationship to the agents, the players, the coach talk to the agents and they go the agents are going to the national media. My wrong, Pete, Well, a lot of time and you can get it from the agent. But you're right about what you said earlier. If if Tom Pel Sarah got it from an agent, then he could cross check it with another agent. If you have two or three and the agent says, yeah, my guys, really frustrating there. This is what happened. Yes,

it happened. You got validation and you got a story that's exactly where a lot of it comes from, but you're also hearing it from leaking inside. Look, I don't want to hear the league. Look, but Pete, my point is that, and I want to I want to unpack this a little bit because I do what Pete saying. And again, who knows what's gonna happen. They have four

games left. They got the Texans this week. We should talk about them, like like, it feels low right now, you get swept by the Texans, will feel a whole new low here. Yeah, it could. But here's the thing. Let's fast forward to the off season and if there is going to be if Urban Meyer makes wholesale changes because it's just not working well. Now you have a

perception issue. And I talked to coaches around the league and I know you Pete does too, is and they all talk that's a small community and like that like that starts like a brush fryer starts, you know, burning is Okay, Now Urban's gotta go get a brand new staff and where do they come from? And now now with that, he has relationships guy like Dan Bullen, and IM like, I'm not and I'm not saying Daryl Belves

giving fired. I'm just saying, these are the things that all the noise, and then you get the free agencies you're trying to get to recruit guys to coming a lot and so it's a lot why this is bad and why I hate this for the organization. And while this you need to find a way to win. Like winning cures everything I said all the time. It's like a good gravy on a bad piece of meat makes everything better. Is you have to win because you've got to quiet this stuff down because it will carry into

the off season. It will impact you for next year. All right, guys, let's take our first time out plenty on that ahead. Pete Prisco will have a chance, of course, to jump in on that one. We'll talk a little bit more about the offense yesterday the offensive line had some issues in past protection. Tony you said, do you think yeah, okay um. And then in the second hour we'll get your social media questions. We'll go around the

National Football League. Plenty ahead, We're just getting started. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You got to give up on the run of the road. Good questions, good questions, What is there gonna answer, Oh, I would say we're probably did. What happens You get down a little bit, you get frustrated, and you're there's a play caller, you get stuck in second or fourteen second and ten eight carries for zero

young or whatever eight yards or something like that. So but we we have to establish the late records going on ten one now, so you know there's still you still run them all on that one. N Sure. That's head coach Urban Meyer today and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after it's twenty to nothing lost to the Tennessee Titans for the Jaguars in Week fourteen. The Jags are now two and eleven and on their second five game losing skin of the season.

J P. Shadrick Tony Biselli here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida, reacting to the game and everything around it. And there you have the answer on the running game, Tony, that you brought up a moment ago. Eight carries, eight yards, seven carries by running back. He really didn't, he really didn't answer. It was that Gary Smith. That Gary Smith. Yeah, if he doesn't flippidly say, how about a good answer? He doesn't even answer the question.

That's part of that. What bothers me about that is there's no passion back. If you would asked Tom calf In that question the exact same situation, Oh my god, the reaction you would have got from that, it's just okay, fine, good. I mean, he don't show me something, you know, that's I want to see some burning passion for the game. It's a It's like when he walked off the field Sunday, what was that he looked lost? That was a powerful handshake with Mike Rabel. Oh my god, you have thought

they were They never then each other before. I met the man for fifteen minutes and I got a better handshake than that. Give me a break. I just maybe that's what I want to see more of it. At least show me some care. I want to passion. Get angry at somebody in that press conference, because clearly they were trying to was that today that happened today? Right? They were trying to get a rise out of him.

It's almost like I've seen this playoff before. By the way, there's a wounded animal and the vultures starts circling if the animal wasn't wounded. The vultures don't circle unless you're a true vulture, then you eat anything. But you see, don't you see that happening. That's like it's like a it's like the vultures are starting to circle now. But part of the problem is, and for whatever reason, and maybe this is the advice the Urbans getting. He does

not give clear concise answers. They're vague there. I don't know there, I have to ask an assistant coach, which we then find out that might not be the truth, that it might have been his decision. I mean, based on the reports, and so I think you're seeing the media basically saying I think fans and in general people are saying, wait a second, like we want a straight answer, because I think that's been part of the problem is and maybe that's the advice he's getting. I don't know

urban Meyer. I've literally had two conversations with the man. I didn't follow him closely outside of knowing he was super successful um at herb at uh at Ohio State and uh Florida obviously, but I mean I've never watched press conference before. Maybe this is his style. Maybe this is what he's been told to do, but it's not building confidence. And I think you're seeing people like wait a second, no, no no, no, like hey, wait, what's the answer.

It's like today talking about young players and guys getting more playing time. The questions about Cisco, Yes, and the question is like why isn't he playing more? In Urbans it is always doing better. We're getting in more time. Yeah, we're getting it more involved. Well, he had zero snaps on defense. It's not consistent. He had seen special teams. That's right, No, absolutely, but the question defense and the es.

But the question was in Urban said he's doing a great job on special teams and everyone said, yes, that's great. He had to punch out the fumble. They didn't get called doing a great job. That's awesome. The question follow up questions like when's he gonna get on what about defense? Well,

we're getting it more involved. He's been more involved. So that's my point is saying this is a lot of this is you build confidence, and like you can, may give you an analogy because it's the best way I can do on the Just coming off top of my head is I never forget when I was a player, and you know, Kevin Gilbride was our offense coring there and then Mike Masor was the UH was our offensive line coach. And they'd always say, until you answer the

question on the tape, they're gonna keep on asking. And what they'd say is like, okay, if you have to play a bear front, which is a defensive front war the center and the two guards are covered up, it's a heavy stop to run. And they say, if you don't have an answer, then you're gonna keep on seeing it over and over again. If you get the Mike sam Blitz and you don't have an answer for it on film as an offense, they're gonna keep on going

at you and going at you because that's it. And I like sometimes is like you don't get clear answers or they're a little bit you have questions about them, And I think that's what you're seeing, Pete. To your point, you're used the vulture analogy, like people are like, no, no, we want to know, like and that until we get clear and concise, I think that's where we're gonna go down. But the scariest thing about it is what if he doesn't know the answers well, that's all another issue, Pete.

If that's the fact, I'm giving him the benefit of doubt that he knows the answer and he just doesn't want to answer it, that's the scary part if he doesn't know the answer. One thing he said yesterday he never had to deal with this before the leaks or whatever, because he let me tell you something, there's a big difference between covering college football covering the NFL, and I know I've done both. It's a it's a different animal.

It's entire and particularly at Ohio State, where everything's great, you're winning. At Florida, where everything is great, you're winning, it's a different, different animal. You're dealing with sheltered college kids who get very little access and very little that you know, you don't deal with the agent and everything else. Well,

here you're dealing with players who are men. A they want to be treated like men, and B you have agents like Tony talked about, you have periphery people that are involved, and there's morphing you're gonna get stuff out. That's why you've never had to deal with this. How many guys carver in Ohio State on a daily basis, day in and day out one two maybe be guys and nationally, yeah, they were a big program, but there's so any of them that you don't necessarily focus in

on that one. And so now in the NFL is like thirty two national writers. There's a ton of them National you know, TV people everywhere, there's a lot of them, and there's more people around in the city that are there every day, So you're dealing with that constantly. It is a different thing, and I've covered both of them, Tony,

it's entirely different. But Pete, don't you think it's like some of the problem is sometimes not just giving clear, concise answers like this is what we're doing, is where we're going. It's my decision, like what I'm the James Robinson, my decision not to plan or I'm not getting it. It's a coach's decision, keeping it internal. That's why, like one thing about Tom would answer them, would answer the question as as maniacal as he was, he would answer

the question, no, no, we didn't go there. But this is the reason why we didn't think we could run the ball. We didn't want to run the ball. It was our proba. We came in with a plan to throw the ball. Next time, we're gonna run the ball better. Boom and the story. You got your answer and you moved on. So I think that's part of the So I walked down the hall with him and grated him

the entire time. Of course you didn't pee. I'm curious, like like just as a test case, like putting you in the press conference, like rewinding the tape, of like letting Pete attend the press conference and ask questions. Is the beat writer? I don't think anyone you know what, I never liked. I never liked asking him in that setting because then those guys always got my material on

TV before I could get into paper the next day. Remember, So I'd wait and walk down the hallway with Tom stop and talk to him and asking my questions, let him scream and yell at me for whatever reason, and then I got my story because I didn't want to ask the questions, so everybody else had them. So I didn't ask him in that You're you're sneaky Pete. You are sneaky, sneaky Pete. That's good. That's good, peat guy, sneak Pete. I like. I like that. Last week it

was Flipper see Flipper. We keep adding names up for Pete. Let's come back in the moment we're gonn here from the quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the four interception game yesterday, defensive side of the ball played. Okay, we'll get to that coming up. Draft talk will commence tonight. The Jaguars has been officially eliminated from the playoffs, and then the second hour of your social media questions and much more. It is Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans

on the Jaguars Digital Network. We had a couple of couple of calls that killed some momentum. Um. Have to look at up. I'm not saying they were bad calls, but just you look at it. You know, we had a big play and there's a whole wink call brings it back. So we gotta we gotta be more, you know, we gotta be better with penalties, like we've said earlier in the year as well. And then for me, I just gotta finish better. You gotta keep playing. Like I said,

I felt really good at being of the game. I thought we were doing a good job taking with the defense has given us for like we were on all of our assignments, and I just got away from us in the end. And I didn't think we played, um a full game at all. Obviously you can tell that. But um, we gotta help our defense. You know, they kept us in the game, gave us plenty of chances and didn't We didn't do anything with it. So that's

Trevor Lawrence. After the game in Nashville. He was twenty four or forty passing two dwenty one yards, a career high, four interceptions, thirty five and a half rating. Ran the ball once for two yards. That's what of the rushing yards for the Jags yesterday. It's a good job, thank you, matth Um. So there you go. Fourteen picks for the season.

Trevor Lawrence struggle yesterday. Now you know, he also said that, you know, a couple of tip balls, should not should have made the catch on one two or just kind of bad decisions and you know, so it's kind of a mixed bag in the interceptions department yesterday. They all count on his ledger though, welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy hour. J P, Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli recapping a twenty to nothing loss they need to score. That's all you need to know, like I and I get what Trevor

is saying. And I can't even magine. You know, the difficult how difficult this is for him, first of all, pick all the pressure, wanting it to be good, wanting to be the guy, wanting to come to this organization to change things in it being worse than ever. That's that's not easy, and I feel for him. But the reality is, even at the beginning, it wasn't good. We're moving the ball with four minutes left in the first half, you had thirty three net yards. It was it was

never good. Like I heard Herban say, well they were weird fishing and passing theme. What does that? What does that mean? When you don't score points and you have thirty three net yards? Nothing is good. It wasn't good, like it was nothing good. And I watched it today on tape and it was it was awful. It's nothing good. These guys don't get open. The offensive line was awful

and positection at times. Andrew doing well the last couple of weeks has been can never stop testing me and tweeting me about the offensive line, Like somehow I've like defended this group all year. I said, they've been I said, and people backed me up on this. The first half of the year. They weren't the problem. They played solid football. They're running the ball. James Robinson was averaging five yards of carry before Seattle. They were low stack total. They weren't.

Jay rob got hurt, like the whole things fell apart. Might go to my point of saying he was your best player, that you should have featured him more. And the offensive line now is playing poorly this week. Both guards no good. Last week, both guards no good. Hwan Taylor inconsistent all year, not good this week. Shatley was fine and Cam Robinson has been the best offensive linemen on the team this year. So everyone on Twitter leave me alone. Yeah, and they got to think about the

right tackle position play water. What does it hurt at this point, like I've been against it by the way, I brought that up. Yes, you ago and I got thrown to the Wolves and I shut you down. I'm at the point now like how like now, find out if you can do it. Find out if you can do it. If you can't do it, then you have then you know, you got a lot of positions like, now you're fixing Let's just be clear offensively. Gotta fix the wide receiver, yeah, gotta fix tight end. Yeah okay, Well, like,

what's you're rolling with Dan Arnold again? If he's healthy? Okay, let's I'll give you that one. Fine, you gotta fix the offensive line? Sure, what do you do it? Running back? See who's healthy next year? There's e t n ready to roll. My point is like, and wait, you know the offensive line is made up five people. You have to make a decision on Cam Robinson. You have to make a decision on your left guard, which I can't imagine.

Way he's been playing. They're gonna bring him back. You gotta make a decision for Brandon Linder, who has been hurt all year, the last couple of years, he's been struggling to healthy. Think he's missed forty games in his career somewhere around that. And I hate it because I love I mean, I'm a big brand liondo a guy, And you gotta what do you do with a j can He's been out all year, basically was not playing great before you got hurt, had a very good year

last year. Your right tackle is struggling, like no one's business. Like you like find out if Walker Little can do something, so you have you can check the box at one place. So you're not fixing everything, Yeah, because you only because remember like we were talking about this last year, you only can fix so many things each year. Well, things that you thought were okay, remember Urban and Trent ballk he told us and Obviouslyason, oh I love her offensive line.

We have a good, strong group. They brought them all back. Okay, Well that's not playing out right now the way any of us thought. And so now you add that to the list. So you gotta start checking things off the list and find out if guys can play. Can Walker Little play at this level? Let's go find out Ken will Richardson play. If he plays some more? Can he play somewhere at least we've seen him in games, right, But look the way Andrew Normal was playing, he ain't

coming back next year. So put somebody else in there. Why, I mean, and you know me, I'm not one of these like, but at this point, I it's hard to argue. So I was, So I was right. You weren't two weeks ago. You are? You can you can say it, you're you are now you have. Do they have any any backups besides okay, we walk a little Richardson and Shatley's in there is there's nobody else right A. J. Cannons And I are you have McDermott, Casey McDermott, who's

the backup center with Linda out? Like No, it's not like it's a lot of depth that you're talking about. Nobody has that. Nobody is No, I know that, but it's not like you have a bunch of young guys you've been developing. That's why I'm like, you gotta go find out what Walker little is. Like I'm at the point is, look at the Green Bay pack Look at the Green Bay Packers up they're on their third tackle,

they're on they have a rookie right guard. The last night they're starting right tackle who's a converted guard went out and they had to put it back up in there and they're in the backup center. They just keep winning. May granted they have Aaron Rodgers and I'm not getting let me give you a couple of games, figure out a way at times to I don't think anyways getting

better on that offensive line. Let me I went through this the other day with somebody who has gotten better on the offense in the last six weeks, who has improved anybody name one? Got one for me, Tony j. P got one. Treadwell, fred Will has played better. Okay, I like it. You got one, ding ding ding, That's all I got for you. Just asked for one, you gave, You gave me one, and I'll give it to you. Because he actually at times it looks like an NFL

received her should be a complimentary player on the offense. Maybe, but that's it. The back hasn't gotten better. He's because they don't use him, and he's been heard quarterbacks gotten worse. The line has gotten worse. The receivers are no better. I mean, every time Chanak goes in motion, they're gonna throw a screen behind a lot of scrimmage and ask the two receivers to block. It's just it's maddening to watch, demanding office to watch. I'm at the point now, place Cisco.

Put him in there, start them fine, if you can play all the all the young guns are getting in there, well like this, what's his name, Jordan Smith? I don't even know whose name has never been around? Like, get him up? What do you have to like what is like is this what is Jason giving you? What is John Warden? I know he had a good game whatever last week? What like what are you getting find out? Are you building this in around John ward and like the lord is a free agents? Okay, great, let's get

Jordan Smith. Can you rush the pastor? Because we don't rush the pastor very well? And you know it's a outside of want. Smoot is our best defensive player. He's consistent every week. You know he's gonna have a few tackles, probably a sack, he's gonna press with the quarterback. He's yeah, good like good. But my point is, put Jordan Smith out there. What other rookies we have to to j um j to Philly. He got his opportunity last week.

It was not great. It's really about it. I mean to fill a Jordan Smith, Cisco, Tyson Campbell start with Walker, little Jordan Smith and Cisco let's go or put Jordan Smith out on third down whatever, like why not, I'm there, I've given up. Hey, let's uh, we'll take another time out. We'll come back a little defensive talk and dig into their day as a whole. Yesterday, second hour we're gonna keep it real. At some point in the second were not keeping it real. Now, Oh it's real. It's it's

been kept real for a long time around here. So when we keep it real, though, we're gonna talk draft because the Jaguars have been eliminated from postseason contention. Of course, your social media questions plenty ahead. Veterans, Choose v A for the benefits you've earned, Visit choose dot v A dot gov. And it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. It's kind of hard to find the worry, but it's not like I'm a seting to give up. You know. My main thing

is I've been a leader downing. You know, we've gotta keep firing. It doesn't matter the outcome circumstances. You got said, the main thing you coming back. We're not gonna lay down for nobody. Um. So I met to drawn board, you know, each week, and you know, we gotta figure out something, how to get better at something. So um

that's the part I'm gonna figure out. Im gonna take you twenty four hours, figure out what happened Like us when we got to make some some arrangement, make this stuff work, get this stuff clicking, and get us going so we don't figure it out. That's Shaquille Griffin, Jaguar's cornerback yesterday in Nashville, after the Jaguars lost to the Titans, swatty nothing the final score. First shutout lost for the Jags since two thousand nine when they lost forty one

nothing at Seattle. It's a long time ago. J P, Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli, and you know the defense. We'll get back to the offense little later. There's plenty of time for that. Of course. The defense yesterday allowed

two hundred sixty three yards to the Titans. That's the second best day of the season for the Jaguars defense as a whole, in totally ordage allowed um and then after the interceptions from Trevor Lawrence those same possessions, they allowed twenty one yards and three points after those interceptions. So they did what they could do. They just didn't have a lot of help from me. I mean, then

he couldn't go off the field. I mean, the flip side of it is they had trouble getting off the field the first three drives there were some long drives, long drives. They didn't force a pun they gave up a touchdown, missfield goal and a field goal. Ten plays, nine plays, fifteen plays. Respective, that's part of your job too. You have to give your offense. You gotta get some three ounce up your offense out um. But overall, yeah, it's ten nothing middle of the third. Let's go do

something right. So, I mean Peter was the second best day by yardage. I mean, they're they're doing what they can. On defense. No, they actually played well in defense, and and you know, look, they play hard. They're not the greatest in terms of talent, they do play hard. And I think Joe Cohen's done a good job compensating for the lack of talent. I think that he just pure talent. He has to go win. I mean, there's another side of the ball. Who's playing well on that side of

the ball. That smoot we talked about, that is one again. Yeah, I think j want smooth plays. He's another one that plays hard and tough and physical. He's starting every week. Yeah yeah, I think if you need, you could start him at one end, if you had the elite dominant edge Russia at the other end. Yeah, Josh disappeared the last three weeks and I don't know where he report. He's on the injury report last week. I know that shoulder. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, well, you know that

started to become a problem too. If he's on the injury because he was on the injury report, he's been injured a bunch. No, but he's playing. If you go play, you gotta produce. If you want to be the guy, you gotta go sack the quarterback like Carold. I mean, is he as good as Harold Andry the past should be? He's not. Right now, Carol is eleven sacks. I think us Miles Jack is Miles Jack. He didn't play that well on Sunday. I didn't think he was Okay, he

was fine. Damian Wilson was good. Wilson had ten tackles in a sack. Roy Robertson Harris or or Roy roberts either one. Both are good. Robertson Harris he had four tackles in a sack and two quarterback hits. Um. Sorry, Sekille Griffin played well. Ray Shan Jenkins I thought played well. Um. They were physical, Yeah, they played. I mean they did a good job. I think uh von hell Hamilton after getting I think he got benched. No world report. He wasn't active last week. He was better. He still gets

pushed around a little bit. Um. It's about wingered. Everybody's all over wingered. Stupid penalty. You can't hit the quarterback in the head, and you can't. Everyone knows you can't go dive it offensive lineman's legs as they're trying to block you. We can't do it. Don't do it, stupid um. And And is that where Cisco goes in. Yeah, that's where I put him. I would start next week, Raid, start Ray Shon Jenkins in Cisco in the secondary, and I would start I would start walking. I'd start Walker

little at right tackle. If you don't want to start right tackle, guess what, Walker, you're starting a left guard. Like I'm putting you on the field. You gotta go play. I picked you in the second round. I gotta know if you I can count on you to be a starter next year. I'm playing that that draft. That draft needs to get guys on the field. I mean, out of that draft, there's two guys playing. That's it. Quarterback

number one overall and Tyson Campbell that's it. No, you gotta you can't blame that on you can't blame that on the previous regime. So that's what I'm doing. But yeah, defensively give Joe cole credit. I mean, first year coordinator, tough situation. You see some growing pains of getting guys on the field at times, but you know he keeps

on working at that. I liked Joe, I root for Joe's a friend, um, and I think you like it was ugly at early, it was not good, but they've gotten better, and you know that's all you can ask if like, if you just told me the offense is getting better too, Okay, Like I actually could live with if you're like two and eleven, if you like you're progressing, like there's I think one of the big issues that this for franchise has, this organization has is I think

people have lost hope. I ain't. The fans right now are like, what do I have look forward to next year? I can't even talk about draft anymore. I was all excited about Urban and and Trevor. It's worse now than it was last year, and so you lose hope. And that's what we You can't have happened. That's why they have to win this week. They gotta go beat the Texans. Are you gonna lock it? No, I'm not. I wouldn't do that to the team. My locks have been terrible

this year. But I mean, listen, the Texans have a workie quarterback, Davis Mills. He's play, he played, He's played better than the rookie quarterback in Jacksonville. They got a bunch of they got a bunch of different pieces and parts and stuff, and guys hurt. So like, you gotta go beat those guys. You have to because you want a new low. No, I don't you want a new low. No, I don't go lose the Texas. I'm no, thanks, we can't. We can't lose them home game, defend the bank, locked

down the bank, lock it down. All that you gotta have to You gotta win the game. Got to score well. And here's the thing. They're scoring nine points a game. Now here's mr By it's only under fourt The good news is we're averaging thirteen point eight thirteen point eight points a game. But that's point two more points in the Houston Texans they're only at thirteen point six. I said, we just go with the stats, win the game, move

on analytics. Analytics, they don't lie, like the under. What's gonna be a low It's gonna be a low score a game. I've never been an over under, but if I was setting the line, I'd put it in like twenty one. Does that even mean? Whatever? What's what's the low line? What's the lower over under in high thirties? Is a low over under? Oh gosh, they're not getting high thirties. That means it's like, you know, sixteen to fourteen. Yeah,

it's thirty, I go thirty. You know, it's still when you look back on it in the last month and a half of the seasons, still amazing. At the Buffalo Bills scored lost nine six, nine to six, and the you know, and the Jags had to Trevor had a good day in London, but they had to kick those fifty plus yard field goals to win. I mean, yeah, that's crazy, right, That's how You've won two close ones,

really close ones. You haven't lost any close ones. Have not really they had lee to other times, but there was nothing like in the fourth quarter world, like you gave up the game when he drives biting our fingernails. Hey, let's come back in a moment. Uh, the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll hit the top news oh the day. We'll keep it real with draft talk. We'll get your social questions go around the league planning ahead. This Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on

the Jaguars Digital Network. Just today, Tom Paul Sarah publicly doubled down and what he said that he assisted, all the things that he wrote in his mind, according to his sources, absolutely happened. So you have you have these two diametrically opposed st I had a heated argument with yeah, yeah, yeah, it didn't happen, Like I got little we gotta law like Marvin's text number or something that inappropriate. Name that is urban Meyer today and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy

Hour our number two. What a show it's been so far. One hour to go. Well, the Jaguars are trying to recover from a twenty nothing lost to the Titans. Urban Meyer taking heat again after that Saturday NFL media report of tenship between coaches players in Urban including an alleged shouting incident with Marvin Jones Jr. Calling assistant coaches losers urban denies, each of those, by the way, and then the game came along. Well, let me get through the

open here. The game came along after that. Twenty nothing the final score the Jags second five game losing streak of the season. Now, the Jags shut out for the first time since two thousand nine, held under two hundred guards for the third time this season and now and back to back games, and a franchise record blow eight rushing yards on a franchise record low eight rushing attempts, penalties all day long. The defense did fight, but they

were on the field a lot up. Next the battle of two and eleven teams in Week fifteen, the Houston Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans got them in Week one, and they've gotten the last seven straight. In fact, Houston's won seven in a row in the series and eighteen of the last twenty four against the Jacks. Yes, first of all, like this is the same stories last week. The Titans have beat us every year since. I think I just like got the same rundown script and like

just changed the name. I'm sorry, I started giggling. But when you said the meeting where erber Meyer was calling coaches losers, which he denied. To be clear, he denied, I would have paid money if that actually, if that really, if it happened. Let's let's assume Tom Palastrow's sources tell the truth. Whatever. I would love to be in that meeting, because you know many times I was called a loser

and bad names by coaches. That's an offensive, lineman. I would have paid money to be in the rumor it's going. I used to picture all the coaches around He's like, you're a loser, because it's a little bit of what it was like at times as a player. Because Arvid's delone coach he said, guess what it all? It all rolls downhill, and you know what the all is. It's something stinky and you don't want on you. But Pete,

that just makes me laugh. Can you imagine the head coach walking around in the staff going, you're a loser. Your resume stinks and you you stink, and just it would be beautiful. Well, isn't that the same staff that he said, um he hired that was the best of the best. To be clear, he's saying he never said that to them. He's saying Tom Palasero's report is not accurate. You guys said pelas a double down. Where did he double down on radio in Jacksonville to day? He was

on tinte XL earlier today. Okay, alright, he doubled down, so he said it happened that. Look, it probably did happen. You wouldn't report that if it didn't happen. And and look, the only way to see it's like the old days. He can't go in the locker room anymore. If the locker room was open, you'd go smart Jones face to face. Did you imagine we're talking about that during the break that's closed now and there's only a mixed media zone you can get select players and only tiered individuals can

do that, so they and only in group setting. So he's not you know, in the old days, he used to be able to go in there and you'd go over to a player and you know, hey, what's going on again? The you know you're not playing real well and he's not playing you. You're mad? Yeah, man, okay, I got a story. You know, he can't do that anymore because hey, the guy's not going to answer that question in a group setting. He's not going to tell

you anything in a group setting. And look, I guarantee you if that happened, there's four or five other players that saw it or know about it. And so if you're covering the team, you could go in there and ask them, here's what you put it on the record. Let's just cut to the chase. Make Bernie Parmarily and Barbara Jones available to the media. Mark get over with

the order. Told last week that Parmly was gonna be available this coming week, So is he going to be I'm just saying, like at some point, just like get it over with. Like I'm so like where I agree with Urbans, like we need to move beyond this, Like it's time to move on. But as long as I hate to say it, but I think it's like there's a credibility because right now it's a credibility issue from the standpoint of it's the national media's word against your word.

The only way to like solve it. And it's terrible because you put your assistant coach in a bad place and you put the player in a bad place. But but that's what you did. And that's what it is. They're all we're all adults just rolling out to the media. Get it over with. But what is Barbara Jones gonna say? Well, but Pete, at least they'll be over Here's the other thing about Margaret Jones and door tears with the lot right, And there was this one. You didn't hear anything like

this about Marvin Jones. He was with the Bengals before that with the Lions, a ten year pro. Now, yeah, if it didn't happen, why would someone pick up Marvin Jones as the person saying that, I don't know, I just like rollout. There's Look, I've heard of other ones too, that there's been other players that I've had issues with him. Let's let's not sugarcoat the thing. But my point is this is the problem. Tom had issues, Tony Thomas, issues

with every player. Sure, here's the other side. Does everybody have to be happy all the time? Well, that's my point. Who cares? I got a shouting match, had to be separated from Kevin gilbride in Mike Mason and I had plenty shouting matches at each other in disagreement at practice. What did you do wrong? Tony, what did you do wrong? Kevin? It was Kevin's fault. He lost. I love Kevin Gilbright too.

I tell him, like he knows that he Kevin. But Kevin had a he had a short temper once a while, and I remember, yeah, temper, great football coach, great dude. Love Kevin, and he uh and he like I like it only happened a few times during the whole season, but he would just all of a sudden snap and lose it on guys and like just lose it. Like I can't even repeat what was said on the radio. And I would never do that because I and that

just what happened. And I remember like sitting there going if he ever does that to me, I'm not like, not gonna happen. And so we run the like we've

lost like six in a row. It's miserable, like everyone's tight, it's tense, and we run a slip screen slip screen left, and it's a difficult play for the tackle because you have to it's timing and like you have to read it up to the make sure you go up to the alley inside, up alley outside and anyways, and I guess he didn't like how I did it, and before I can turn around and get back to the huddle,

he is in my grill, like just undressing me. That's why I said, I'd love to see if if that did happen where urban was undressing the coaches, I'd beat. I'd be great. I'd love to sit there and have popcorn watch. But he was undressing me, just going at it, and I was like, and I lost it. I snapped and I went after him, and we had to be separated because Kevin is the type of dude like I would have whipped. I would have I would have whipped

his rear end. But Kevin wasn't gonna let back down, and so he was coming like we're being pulled apart, chaos on the field. Guess what. Afterwards, I went to his office and coach, you're the coach on the player in my bad he said. We talked it, Mike, I would have given you a beat. Mike made the late Mike major and I Tom and I had words like like he was because you he did like your competitors, not because I distressed actor he disrespected, Like you're mad

things aren't going well. You could ask or you could ask for us to be respected. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. Tom Coughlin's first couple of years on the Virgin going rotten. We're going rot. And so it got salvaged and he did a lot of he did some self reflection and inner we started helping fix it. You're wrong, you aren't changing at all, Pete. He was the same guy. We won, and guys like winning. And he was a good guess what. And he was a

good coach. He was organized, he was detailed. I'm not and this is I'm not even say anything about Urban right now. I'm just saying what Tom was. He was miserable. He was, he was He whipped the crap out of us daily. We started winning. Winning fixes everything and here and I want to go back to like I like, here's the big thing. I don't get, like all the smoke and all the noise coming out, like it's a lot the least of my worries is a coach and a player going at it, Like here's the answer. Let's

say it did happen. Urbans just said, yeah, we had a disagreement. We handled it provably. I'm not going to

discuss it with you. Okay, it's over. Marvin called Marvin here, Marvin, Yeah, we had a coach coach, and we discussed like men, we're good, Okay, big deal, who can like okay publicly going here and saying after all these years that you you guys weren't happy that he called out Brunelle after the interception after the in the Titans game and embarrassed him and that ended up being a rift between the two of them. I'm not gonna get into that. Still

under the bridge, Tony, come on. My point is this, it's it's not like the Marvin Jones or it's not the James right, it's not these one. It's almost how we respond the response to them, Like if you guess what, you're the head coach. If you wanted to bench James Robinson because he fumbled, then bencham you're the head coach. Bill Belijack doesn't all the time, but then you gotta bench Carl's high too. You don't get it both ways,

and you don't. I don't think you're gonna go tell the media it's will go after go after running back coach because I don't know. And then the report is it was your decision, Like those are like things you just like, I don't know what we're hiding from. Just call it as it is. Yeah, I benched him. I guess what if you find out with a bench again, Pete, you asked the question a moment ago. We didn't get your answer was about urban What was it? Is it fixable?

Is his handling of this team fixable? Can he change who he is a little bit? And I don't know if it is? And look, I can tell stories about Tom back in the day, and you know when I wrote a bunch of them about how he was. He was a dictator and drove people crazy. Two years ago, three years ago, I wrote a column, big story on what went on after two thousand and seventeen with that team. Remember all the crap that went on with that team.

So crap happens on all teams, and you know this, Tony, every single one of them has stuff going on, And you're right, it's how does the head coach handle it? And he does not do a great job of handling it. Yeah, I benched him, sit him down, Like you said, I sat him down and needed to be benched. Why aren't we running the ball? That's a good question, But I'm gonna get to the heart of it. I want to run the ball more. We will run the ball more. No, but you don't get to say that we're not gonna

get to it. I'm the head coach. You're right, I need to fix it. It's not good enough. Like here's the thing, Like, just like you are the head coach, like you are the leader. Not only are you the head coach, you run the entire building. You have final say on anything that happens in this building about football. You can't get up there and say I don't know, or blame somebody else or this person. You gotta say I own it. And you know what. You fumble, you

don't play. You know you do this, you don't play. I might. Here's my expectations. Like I don't need to hear. And I don't think people like I think it's losing. It's like losing a little bit. Like I don't care. I don't care how much you like a guy, how he's a great guy, he's a great competitor. No one cares, No one cares, No one cares. So they have has finals say on personnel decisions. He has final say on roster decisions. He has finals say on everything. Doesn't play

he has finals. Say on everything, he has finals, say on radio, has finals. JP's career has finals. That's a lot of pressure on that one. No, but you know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm not even trying to. I'm not trying to take a ship with Pete. Laugh again, by the way, I'm not. This isn't a shot at urban like. It's answering your question. It's to your question. Can he fix it? Not the way you're going right now. I don't think he can. He wanted, I'll give you,

and we used Tom Coughlin here a lot. I happened to love the man in respect him. Do I agree with everything he did? Not even close have him and I have it Our run INDs absolutely. But I think like Tom Coughlin, successful NFL head coach, he's good and he's good when he does. I don't have to agree with everything he did, and that's not my job. I was a player when he went to New York and you know this beat. He had a revolt going on, and he if he didn't change they working, he wouldn't

have to two super Bowl rings. And he adjusted his approach because the veteran team he had guys like stray Hand and Tiki Barber and like who he was and what they were trying do. He adjusted and that is well, Chronicles, I'm not telling anything that's like breaking news. And so can Urban fix it? You better take it. You better start looking in the mirror and start with you and what do you need to do? Because what is ever is going on right now is not working? And I

hope he can fix it. I don't like, like, I don't think firing a guy after one year it is good. I mean, do you hear all this chatter fire Herban, get rid of Urban blah blah blah blah whatever, like that's not good for any organization. It's not good for Arizona. It was good for the Arizona Cardinals. What's happened here once, It's not good for any organization. It was damn good for the Arizona Cardinal. But Peach, you know what I'm saying. Overall,

I'm with you. I normally would never I don't know, I agree with you. Let it play out. And so my point is saying that asked. I asked Hayes Carline this the other day when I was on with them. I said, normally, have you gone to any of the Monday and Wednesday press conferences and come away because wins and losses. Yeah, that's the most important thing. But in the first year you kind of get the benefit of death. But you come away from Monday or Wednesday press conferences

with Urban thinking he's got it down. He's he's he's answered my questions, he's telling me about football. He's got it all down. Yeah, it'll work out in the long run. And Hayes answered me honestly said no, not once. And I think if you asked all the media, all the media guys that question, they'd answered the exact same way. My point. But that's my point, Pete. I'm going back Kenny, fix it. I hope so. I hope so, because two and eleven not very good. You're one in fifteen last year.

In the way it's going right now, I don't know what the line is. I don't gamble and I know, but you know what's the line on the gates. But I don't think that many people are picking the I mean, it's a coin for the has to get to Houston, Texas who have this man woke her entire roster and spent nothing in free agent for the most part, very little rebuild, scrap. I get the Jets after that. You better, like my point is saying this, you gotta like this is going on track. Is a worst season than you

were last year when you expectations. Everything went last week. So I hope he can figure it out. Pete, what's up real quick before I gotta get a break. But I happen to see this tweet today. This was from Dent. Dent, I saw it when I looked up something. If they don't win the division in two years, then something is wrong. Chris con Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer. That was That was

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The Jaguars Draft talk will commence tonight. You're on Jaguars Happy, I love it, I love it. Draft order as it sits today, Number one would be the Detroit Lions at one eleven and one. The Jaguars would be number two. They have the same exact record and strength of schedule is Houston at the moment, but the division record is the next tiebreaker down. That's why the Texans have the better division record. Their third Jaguars currently or second in

the draft. And then there's four straight New York teams that it would pick after that evidence today there's a dozen, of course in today. There are four weeks left in the season. Okay, so the Giants have five and six, and the Jets have four because they both had trades earlier. So those where the Bears and the Seahawks are. And the Eagles have three picks too. Yeah, they start with the tenth right now, and they've got two others later in the first round. So alright, what are we doing? Draft?

This is this? It is this is the draft offic Keep it real here. Let's just say, let's just say, what are we doing. I don't know what we're doing. Okay, you're keeping it real. There's the draft order you want, no, no, no, we're gonna go through. Let's just say in this scenario that the Lions take Aidan Hutchinson, the local kid from Michigan first overall. I wanted Aiden Hutchinson. Well you're not getting them, keep losing them. But here's the Lions have

left to play. Where's Arizona. They're not winning at Atlanta, probably not winning, at Seattle, probably not winning, and then home against Green Bay, so they're gonna have the first overall pick. It looks like, oh, I think they can beat Seattle. See they can beat Seattle in Seattle. Seattle is no good. And then they gotta hope like Green Bay isn't playing for anything in the final week of season. But in all likelihood, the jar is gonna be picking second.

So if they're picking third because we beat this week, you just said they're not going to I never said that. I said if they don't canna be dark, Okay, fine, I'll lock it. They're gonna be Wow. He just's gonna come off the and we'll score some points and win. They're gonna it's gonna let me tell you the score of the game. I can't wait to hear this. It should be the final score thirteen point eight to point six. Jain. Okay, So say Hutchinson goes first overall to the Lions, then

one number. Do you have the number two pick? Where you take? What do you take it? Tond you taking a there's an elite passed rusher in Oregon, although some people question that, Um, do you take a wide receiver there? I think it's way high for wide receiver. I'm not taking I'm not taking receiver to overall. You don't need a quarterback. So you take the pass rusher from Oregon in this scenario. Now, if you can't play him, not taking him, he can't play. I think he's pretty good.

He just but then is he is? Is he Dion Jordan's No, If he's than that and it's the second pick, them all pretty good. Like if it's the second pick, he better good. In fact, there's some people still think you might go first. Okay, who's like, what are the like? I don't even know who the top five players are in the draft. Well, what about the big offensive tackle from Alabama, Evan Neil? Name Evan Neil? Then you got

the corner from LSU Stingley Stingley last year. You can have a receiver involved, and uh, you could get value by trading in a way and getting more picks because somebody wants a quarterback. Is there anyone who wants to trade up with me? Because I want to trade back to like five, six, seven and get a receiver with extra picks. H with the Giants to be able to pack. Do they want a new quarterback? Are they done with him? What quarterback? Who's trade up for any quarterback in this draft? Anyways?

Nobody is? Nobody is and that's the problem. So it's pass rusher, corner, trade down and take a speed receiver. But we know what they need. It's not hard to figure out. But they do need They knew need an offensive tackle, don't they. But that's the thing. Do they need an officsive tackle after drafting one at the top of the second round last year? Yes? Answer, well, I don't know. That's why you got play Walker little the last four weeks. I'm with you, Tony, I agree with

because nothing against you want Taylor. Well, I guess it is against him because what I've seen the last two years, I've not seen a guy get better. I've seen a guy get worse than inconsistent. Yeah, and it's not a guy that leads you to optimism for next year. So yeah, play Walker little, play Walker Little. Then we'll get into draft talk. Great draft talk. That was crazy. We're gonna have we got we got tons of draft talk. There's gonna be so much draft talk. Why do you hate

it so much? It's a reality. You gotta I've done no work to figure out who is even available. Well, I mean that this was the deal. When the Jaguars are efficient eliminated, the draft talk begins, and that's what we've done tonight. I mean, you need a receiver, you need someone who can play like and here's the word. I mean you know this, Pete. The word is now that Tampa's gonna offer whatever it takes a kip, keep Chris Godwin or franchise him. Correct, Davante Adams isn't going

anywhere Chris Godwin. So that leaves you a pool of guys like Mike Williams, Alan Robinson, um, those kind of players that that doesn't make you that much better. And I don't think you overpay those guys. Mhmm. Yeah, So you have to draft not just one receiver Tony, you have to draft like two or three of them. Well, this goes back to last year. Why didn't you be like,

you know, I hate doing this. We're keeping it so we're keeping it real, Just keep it like et N. Maybe he's a great player, he's been hurt, so this is no like judgment on e t N. I just wouldn't have picked the back there. Like how about getting Friarmouth the tight end for Pittsburgh. Watched him all year

at that position to gets a playmaker? How about going and getting you know, the little slot receiver that Arizona got out of Purdue or the little slot run out of like out of Old miss How about someone can run Why like a playmaker in the passing game. You get a quarterback. Uh, it's just curious to me, Like how because now we're starting here. You want you want my draft, you want me keeping a real draft talk.

I'm frustrate because you need like fifteen positions. You don't have enough picks because what have you fixed this year? Get a quarterback and you know you have a corner I like, I like Tyson camp I think he's gonna be a good player. But what else do you have? What did you fix? Nothing? Well, I don't know. I have no idea. What didn't see You haven't seen a lot of those guys out there. But E T. N was picked because they didn't like James Robinson. Period. That's

the end of that story. It's hard, it's hard. It's hard to argue that right now. That was Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Let me tell you what's keeping it real? Have you seen some of the tweets we've got today? Yes? Are you gonna read those on air? Some of them will make the show, others will not. Yeah, something should not open up A winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. What a day. It has been so far, we have

thirty minutes to go. Your social media questions, at least the ones that are arible when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguar is Happy. What are you laughing at, Tony? Where your microphone is on? We're on the air. Sorry, problem this picture. I'll send it your way. I don't want to get into it. It's just that's great. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy Our social media questions coming up? What are you?

What is this? What is this? It's like trying. Okay, that's enough. Yeah I saw that. Yes, that's great, Thank you. This is awful radio we put out. We put out the bat signal every Monday. This has been our most responsive Monday. I must say, I'm just guessing. I don't have the statue of the analytics to back that up, but um, you know, it feels like it and let's

get to it. Social media question number one, at least the ones that can make the air at Matthew lock eight, can you draw similarities to that of the Fins and Flores, the Bills and McDermott, the Bengals and Stacy franchise has had major issues at the start, stuck to the course and now performing. That's fair Bills, the Bills McDermott did not.

They made the playoffs for first year from the mistake and they actually lost to the Jaguars here ten three his first year, so that was not really that many issues. Finns Flores started terrible, ended up closing out the season on a high note because they got better each week. Not the same story here, um Stacy and question mark Bengals. Um, they were terrible and yeah, I guess that would be the one that you could say was like really really bad and then they got better this year after the

year two of the with the quarterback. But even last quarterback got hurt. Last year quarterback got hurt. And remember last year they were bad, but they were scoring points, throwing the ball over the field. The movement that wasn't like this like they were losing games because they couldn't protect the quarterback is getting killed. But they know it all.

They had a bunch of offense pet if I'm not misnaken, well, and you know you mentioned the Bills and McDermott and the interesting thing about that is Josh Allen threw ten touchdown passes and twelve picks that first year. He was bad, he was bads. No, he didn't. McDermott went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and then they and then they, then they went and made the pick and drafted Josh Out went backwards a year but played good deeper they were still in games, and then third year back in

the playoffs. So it just doesn't. It doesn't. It has no feel of that. No, no, none, so no, so none of the above. Maybe Bengals a little bit pizza. No, I'm putting you down for no pete. Question number two at nine oh four and more, why didn't the Jags utilize the waiver wire during the season. I'm guessing this is in reference to Cunningham this week, who was waived

the Texans. The Titans ended up claiming him. I think Jack Cunningham was a good football player, but he was also guaranteed ten a half million dollars next year that you'd be on the hook for, so you better write that is worth? Is he worth that? No leading tackler in the league last year. I'm just telling you why they didn't do it. The question was why they didn't do it. And that's why, all right, if you want to be on the hook for ten a half million

for Zach Cunningham next year. Question number three social media at stut Winners. I'm demoralized, frustrated and at an all time low as a fan. Can you give me any reason, any at all to believe in this team next year? And note the British spelling of demoralized with an S. He's from London. I got nothing off the top of my head right now. My only, my only hope for next year, that is next year. I mean, there's nothing right now that gives you confidence that things are gonna

be like rosy. Now with that, you get through, get through the season, like figure out what happens, like, get this losing behind you, and I think you'll start feeling hopeful again as we get towards free agency. They have a good cap, you know, hopefully, you know, Trevor, second year player, it's a big job. So that I like, I just contradicted myself. I saip, I flipped, call me flipper, clipper, Flipper, flipper, I'm flipper this week. Um, there is things to hope

for a good cap. You have a young quarterback. Um Oh, I still believe in those are the two things. Cap room, young quarterback. Well they did so. They did a wonderful job with that cap room they had last That's where I started with no hope. I was trying to give hope. So if I go down that path, I hope take take the cap back because they had a lot of cap room last year and they did nothing with it. Um, So that's not a plus. The plus is the quarterback

if you don't ruin um and the ruining him. You know. I mentioned this to Tony before I talked to him, and we were talking about is this David Carr. And the answer to that question is no. And the reason it's no is because Trevor Lawrence stands in there and takes him beating and just gets back up and goes back and he plays the next play. He's a tough guy. And as a defensive rusher, if I saw that that long, that long quarterback standing in the pocket with a big

target like that, I'd want to blast them too. And and he takes a ton of hits and he just keeps getting up and you gotta in it. There's times when he takes those shots and you go, this might be the one. But he keeps getting up and that's a great sign. He's not I think his fundamentals are waning. I think his eye level has come down because of the shots. I think he's sped up a little bit because of being hit. And he doesn't trust his receivers, which has led to all kinds of problems for him.

He got fooled on the one interception. Let's be real, they dropped out the end. He didn't see him. Rookie got fooled the deep throw that he was picked. That was a terrible throw, terrible decision. He had Marvin Jones on the other side. He didn't even look over there. And so there's there's different types of interceptions. Some of them were rookie throws, some of them are just trying to make him play. But through it all, he just keeps getting right back up and going up there and

taking those shots. And that's the best sign of all for him, and that should give the jah War's hope. Question number four social media on fire today at Devil x Jaguar. Please someone explain, while we run the ball six times in the game we were in until about the fourth quarter, why does this team hate Robinson? What do they see and hide? This feels like a nightmare. We have never woke up from Wow intense well I addressed it. I don't. I don't have an answer for you.

Behind is in can Cushing protocol? By the way, is m I have for you. I don't know if Urban hates James Robinson or not. Don't have any perspective on that. I have not asked urban Meyer about that. I don't understand why they don't run him more um as of late. If it's because of injury, great, um, then why are you playing him wait in the game when he's injured. Yeah, that excuse goes out the window. So I don't buy that one. Um. But I don't know why, how why you don't run the ball? I have no idea. I

can't answer. It makes no sense to me. Like this is like we heard him answered earlier, and I don't buy it. Like it's ten evidence, it's not out of hand, it's nothing. The evidence is there that they don't like James Robinson. Look, if you were in a court of law and you had to convict somebody of not liking James Robinson, they'd be guilty. Period. There's too much evidence there. Wow. So here's the thing. Let me tell you. If if you're committed to the run it, you've run thirty plays,

it's ten nothing. You're losing. You've thrown it, you've dropped back the past twenty four times, you've handed it off six times. That's eight split. Your run pass ratio is you you're telling me you're committed. You're telling me because the game got a hand. I don't buy it. That's not true. That's just not the facts. Like I don't care what it said. It's what I watch and what I see and what I call. That's not the fact is you aren't committed to the run. You're not. And

that's okay. They were committed to the run the last time they played Tennessee. Yeah they ran the ball, well they did. How many rushers do they have that game? A lot? I mean J Robb went over a hundred yards of that game. Absolutely, dude. Let's see J Robin that game had had uh eighteen carries a hundred forty nine yards. Team Trevor had seven carries, Hi'd had five, Agnew had one, So thirteen thirty one. How you should be Another social media question from Twitter today what a

place at rate us underscore Joe Hanson. Happy birthday for yesterday, JP. Thank you, thanks for a great commentary yesterday, Tony, You're welcome. With very little to be gained winning again this season, why aren't we maximizing the playing time for our rookies to help their development for next season? Hashtag duvall. I don't see Pete on that question anywhere, Tony, because what did you do yesterday? JP? I worked here, I mean for you. So he's thanking you for his birthday present

for you working on a Sunday. I just said a happy birthday. That's all he said. Was That was it? It wasn't your birthday? Right? Yeah? It was? It was Yeah, we didn't know that. I did already wish happy birthday. Thanks for the call, Pete. I'm not like you know. I know my co workers and what their birthdays. I called them, wish the happy birthday. Good job, Pete, very nice. So what do you is that the right age? No?

Actually forty the Big four oh yesterday? Wow? JP's forty yep and bsella You're gonna be fifty soon, right, I'll be fifty next day April, Pete. Wow, so you're gonna go into Hall as a fifty year old not there yet, but maybe a year old. I like it. Hopefully that'd be good. I think we have one more social media QUI. Well, we answered the rest of that earlier tonight. The rookies playing all that, just go and all that at M camp zero one four? Who are we taking in the draft?

What are the chances of landing at playmate? You're in free agency? Hashtag? Go Jags, Tony, Who are you taking in the I don't know you love the drunk care right now? Um? Well, what playmakers out there? It's gonna be a free agent. I don't know. Chris Godwin, he's not Pete. We just talked about that. Mike Williams, he's okay, you can't run. He's big, he runs better than that Allen Robbinson does. Yeah, I agree with that. Maybe Mike Williams. Maybe I don't know. Well, I gotta draft you gotta

draft that speed. That spet needs to be drafted. And Rod Dalmore and Elijah mor say hello from last year? How are they doing? Pete? Um? I just watched the Rams on Rams Cardinals game on tape from the first time around. Boy, they got creative with Ron dal Moore, all those Jets sweeps and runs and everything else. How about the night and I know we'll get to Monday Night football jps will read no Jalen Ramsey to night. Yeah, covidd got COVID. Yep, that's that's a blow for them. Yeah,

big um. We'll come back. Hey, thanks for all the social media submissions. We can only get to six tonight. And if you want to read the rest, go check out Twitter and hit any of our handles and you can read until your heart's content. We're back in a moment. We'll go around the NFL and here's some radio calls from week number fourteen. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour Monday afternoon.

J P Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Prisco after a Jaguars lost to the Tennessee Titans in Week fourteen, twenty nil. Jaguars ran for eight yards in the game. Yesterday we have covered that. Let's go around the National Football League and here's some radio calls from some of the games around the league. Thursday, the Vikings over the Steelers thirty six to eight, Tony, You were at that game right

Thursday night football. It was It was a crazy game. Yeah, it was all over the place, like the Steelers were getting killed. They couldn't tackled Alvin Cook and he was on pace for like the league record at one yards in one game. Um. He was averaging at one point eighteen eighteen yards and carry um. And then all of a sudden, like midway through the third quarter, the Vikings can't help twenty nine nothing, can't help themselves, start throwing

interceptions and turn it over and here comes Pittsburgh. Had had the chance to tie it up at the end. What were they doing? What were they doing? Her cousins had that glazed look on his face until he had that shot to oz Osborne down the field. You did that game, Tony, Yeah? Did you see Keenan how ain't go on the field beforehand with all the COVID Yeah. Yeah. Elkins over the Panthers yesterday one the Browns over the Ravens. Miles Garrett with a fumble return touchdown. Jim Donovan on

the Cleveland Browns Radio network. Three receivers near side to the left. Brown comes out near side to the left. He's the whitest one out wide to the right in the backfield, Letsavieous Murray Huckley takes the shotgun staff back to pass. Let's the ball got stripped away in the air of the Brown's fight for the ball and it's picked up by Biles Garrett. He's got a score. Touchdown Rellian on the field is a fumble recovered by the

deepends cuts down Miles. Garrett hit the ball, it burned it around, he picked it up and then he ran the last fifteen yards win it for a touchdown. Have the Bronx League twenty three to three want to play Pete Garrett the best defensive player in the league this year for you, He's been phenomenal. He's in the conversation, no doubt about it. What one quick thing about that game?

Down nine with eight and a half minutes to go in the game, John Harbor went for two, yeah, to make it a seven point games, So you know what you need. That's what they analytics say. It's like, if you miss it, you're still doing two scores, right, I know, But if you know many times, I think it's been tried like eleven times in the last decade or something, and you know how many teams have won doing that one. It's stupid. You're missing my point. I'm just telling you

what I didn't say. I agree with it. I would I would kick the extra point and be down eight, know that I'm going to try to win at the end. The whole idea of knowing what you gotta get, well, who can't. What's the difference? You know what you you're gonna have to get the two point at some point, but why not keep it so you can get it later in the game and have a chance to win it as it turned out. By the way, as it turned out, they scored a touchdown and kicked an extra point.

Have they kicked the extra point, they would have been had the opportunity to go for two and hid. Or if they got the two when they did it, they could extra point with the time it the bottom line, here's the thing where your argument falls apart, Pete. Either way you need to two point conversion. So what does it matter if you do it right way or after later? It doesn't matter. If you don't get it, you're done. You're down to you're down nine. No, you're not done.

They start a chance with the onside kick My point is, if you don't get if you have a chance, if you don't get the duke point play, then to Pete. If you don't get the two point at the end, you start to kick down inside. You're missing them. Just the math part of it, just math. No, I get the math part. Doesn't matter. You've got to get a two pointers sooner or later. Like I know, I get that. As a journalist, you don't do a lot of math, a lot of writing. I know the math. I know

the math and that. By the way, all the data says going for two down by nine is not right, that's not true. The analytics say, do it. It gives you a better chance of winning. I just explain to you it's happened. Tell you what the data says. Look at the analytics. I'm not listen. I don't have the algorithm to draw it up for you. Right now. That's

what it's at. I was told there would be no math, uh in this Listening to the Seahawks, hard headed Seahawks over the Texans were shot Penny a forty seven yard touchdown run for the Hawks. Steve Rabel of Seahawks Broadcasting with a call second down and seven run by Penny left side, breaks one tackle, first own, he is gone ten five touchdown Seahawks ras shot. Penny breaks in at the line of scrimmage and takes off for forties seven yards. There's a hundred plus day for the Seahawks, a hundred

thirty seven yards for just Rashaan Penny. Neither one of these teams had a great record, of course coming in. Seahawks are now five and eight, and have they kind of figured some things out or they just playing a bad team. Yesterday, Pete, they were playing a bad team. But they want a couple in a row, and they still have hope. I mean, they gotta win out basically to get in. But but they're playing bad. Russell Wilson is playing better that since Pete Carroll stormed off the podium,

since his finger got there. That's basically what it is. That that helps also Chiefs over the Raiders. Big about the Raiders dancing on the arrowhead logo in the middle of the field for the game. You can say, and got way, got him going, and then they promptly gave up forty eight to the Chiefs. Mistake. Does that matter? No? But it's a bad, bad It's a bad look. It's a bad look, but had no impact in the game. I mean, they might have given out forty eight anyway.

So the chief the Chiefs still have to look great on offense. Yet think about that they scored forty eight great on offense. He got just playing fantastic cover like a defensive score early in the game. Saints over the Jets thirty to nine yesterday, and then the Cowboys against Washington a fumble return touchdown for the Dallas Cowboys defense.

Brad sham on one of five three the fan in the Dallas Cowboys radio network to Washington late first quarter at their own empty gun for Heineck, fourth and two back to throw rushan sack back parcels recovered by Dallas. They'll running down the sideline, churnstrong dancels in. That will be a Dallas touchdown. That made an eight team nothing. Dallas goes on to win. Yeah, and that's the end of the division. That division is over. Cowboys are in the playoffs. And and I'm gonna say this about the

Cowboys front man. They get DeMarcus Lawrence back, Randy Gregory is now back, Neville Gallimore's back in the middle of the line. He had a sack, and they can move Parsons all over the place. They're gonna be a handful profitsive lines in the postseason. I agree, Broncos over the Lions thirty eight to ten, Chargers over the Giants thirty seven. Want to throw by Herbert on that touchdown pass like sixty five in the airs. That throw is the one.

Those are the ones that should be made in Jacksonville every once in a while. Smokes over the Bengals. Three. The Buccaneers against the Bills a wild game in Tampa, the game winning overtime touchdown Jane dicker If on the Bucketeers Radio Network. Godwin wide to the left, Evans wide to the right. Shotgun look with four net on the right hip of Brady. Here's the snap pressure coming from

the outside. Brady throw pot ball first out of the fifty outside the number sporting tell the thirty yard line. Paraman Pushot, Parraman touch doot Tampa by Fox running over time Paramon, Paraman, Caraman wild one in Tampa. They're good, Pete, they're running, They're getting you know, this is what they did last year down the stretch. Start playing really good football. And the question now is the Bills are sitting in the seventh spot for the house right now. If it

ended today, the Bills make the playoffs. Yeah, their schedule is easy. They got New England and three Winnie winnable games at home. Jets, Falcons, Panthers. They're in. And one quick thing about Harriman. He was out there available and he can run the Packers over the Bears last night to thirty thank you piece. Monday Night Football. It's a huge game in the NFC West. Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald no,

Jalen Ramsey. Tonight though, and the eight and four Los Angeles Rams visit Kyler Murray and the ten and two Arizona Cardinals. Second meeting of the year. The Cardinals won it back in Week four. Who you got tonight, Tod I think the Cardinals laying on him. I think the Cardinals are better. I think the Cardinals are better too. I think they win that game. And look, the Cardinals

don't get any respect. Their their third and scoring differential, fourth and total offensive, fourth in total defense, and nobody believes in them. Yeah, we got ten wins. Wow. I think to beat the Rams, I don't think, I mean, I think the Rams will make the playoffs. But I don't think they're gonna make any noise in the playoffs. All right, but you know the Rams, and I think this is still right. Peat correct me if I'm wrong. We're jp Maybe. No, the Rams have not beaten a

team with a winning record this year. Well, they beat the box Box. Sorry, they beat one team with about this Matt staffords and seventeen against teams five games above his career. Wow. Wow, Ye that the old Kirk Cousins thing, like he had issues with teams winning. Yeah. Hey, Pete, fun show today. We'll talk to you next week. You see you, guys, I had fun. You didn't have fun, Tony, I had fun. I'd like to do this after a

win though. Let's get some WS for sure, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli, our entire crew, Brent Reaber, Joe Fortunado, I'm J. P. Shadrick and we'll catch you next time. Thanks for listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.